The Great America Show - March 14, 2022


CAHALY： 52% OF AMERICANS DISAPPROVE OF BIDEN; GOP HOPEFUL： BIDEN IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 7 minutes

Words per Minute

147.44344

Word Count

9,986

Sentence Count

674

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

The Great America Show with Lou Dobbs and Robert Kiyos joins us to discuss the latest developments in the Ukraine, Iran's missile strikes on the U.S. Consulate in Erbil, Iraq, and more.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,
00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
00:00:09.220 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
00:00:14.680 Hello, everybody, and good to have you with us here on the Great America Show,
00:00:19.540 as we all work to preserve our national values of truth, justice, and the American way.
00:00:25.560 There have been both political and military developments in the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
00:00:31.560 In Ukraine, a Russian missile attack on a Ukrainian training and supply base near El Lviv,
00:00:38.480 12 miles from the border with Poland.
00:00:41.240 Reports are 35 killed, 130 wounded.
00:00:44.880 And satellite imagery reveals massive destruction in a number of Ukrainian cities throughout Ukraine.
00:00:51.420 And U.N. estimates of the number of Ukrainians who fled the country have risen to 2.6 million people.
00:00:59.260 Those Russian missile attacks in Ukraine have been followed by Russian-allied Iran's missile strikes
00:01:05.780 on the city of Erbil, the Kurdish capital in northeastern Iraq.
00:01:11.000 A barrage of missiles hit in the vicinity of the U.S. consulate in Erbil, but wasn't hit.
00:01:16.920 Importantly, Iran claimed responsibility for that missile attack.
00:01:20.440 And this incident is clearly an escalation by the Iranians.
00:01:25.060 No word in response from the Biden White House.
00:01:29.320 President Biden and his vice president, Kamala Harris, are receiving stinging criticism
00:01:34.420 of their handling of the Ukraine war, while also getting low marks for every other major issue facing the nation.
00:01:41.980 Runaway inflation, record high prices for gas and heating oil,
00:01:45.680 confuse COVID policies and mandates, wide open borders, and crossing our border in the past year.
00:01:52.620 Two million illegal immigrants who are receiving more taxpayer-paid benefits than working American families.
00:01:59.300 And violent crime waves in cities across the country.
00:02:03.520 Biden and his Marxist Dems are struggling in the polls, and they're resorting to desperate measures,
00:02:09.660 whether it be their Soviet-inspired January 6th committee,
00:02:14.180 which may be forced to reveal why the Dems turned down President Trump's offer
00:02:18.400 of 10,000 National Guardsmen to assist D.C. police in order to provide security,
00:02:25.760 or the radical Dem lawfare lawsuits trying to disqualify Republican candidates this year
00:02:31.860 who challenged the 2020 election as insurrectionists, they call them.
00:02:37.280 Ridiculous as the Wisconsin lawsuit is, a timely development in support of Senator Ron Johnson
00:02:43.920 and two congressmen will assuredly support the Republicans.
00:02:48.560 The special counsel investigator of that Wisconsin 2020 election has just called for the state of Wisconsin
00:02:56.120 to decertify the election results in the state.
00:03:00.400 Unless, of course, radical Dem lead attorney on this case, Mark Elias,
00:03:05.000 wants to also attack the special counsel as an insurrectionist.
00:03:08.960 A lot more to come in the days and weeks ahead on that case.
00:03:13.000 The results of the Biden-Marxist agenda and policies to this point are obvious in the recent polling,
00:03:19.600 all of them in the direction of a Republican landslide in November,
00:03:24.240 which may explain a lot the Democratic Party's desperation of late.
00:03:30.040 Also at the root of that Democrat desperation is the increasing convincing evidence
00:03:35.720 of the Dems' plot to overthrow Donald Trump that was created by Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2016
00:03:43.140 and persists to this day, and the ever-widening public knowledge
00:03:47.620 that President Trump was simply right about just about everything.
00:03:52.240 And they hate it when President Trump hits the campaign trail,
00:03:56.020 as he did a few days ago in South Carolina.
00:03:58.940 A huge rally, a huge turnout, and big campaign boost for the candidates
00:04:03.720 he's endorsed in the upcoming midterms.
00:04:06.860 And congressional candidate and great American Katie Arrington
00:04:09.940 was on the stage with President Trump,
00:04:12.660 and she joins us later in the show to talk politics.
00:04:15.880 So let's talk polling and politics then and see where we're headed as a country.
00:04:21.080 And joining us now is one of the country's leading Republican strategists and pollsters,
00:04:26.180 Robert Cahaly of the Trafalgar Group.
00:04:29.100 Good to have you with us here on The Great America Show, Robert.
00:04:31.800 Describe the country's political condition for us.
00:04:35.320 I would say their politics is full of cross-currents.
00:04:38.880 And the black-and-white picture we had before this war is getting blurry.
00:04:49.360 Well, that's probably because we're starting to understand a little better the world we live in, don't you think?
00:04:55.940 I think that understanding the ramifications of what's been happening on this green energy front
00:05:08.600 and having this kind of come home and watch the controversy
00:05:15.660 and watch the power shifting that are a result is very awakening to people.
00:05:23.580 Well, despite the polls, the soaring gas prices,
00:05:28.160 DIMMs are telling you, what, they want to buy electric cars?
00:05:33.520 What is your read on the American public with your newest poll that you've surveyed?
00:05:42.440 Well, you know, the cool thing about the electric cars is since they're all completely powered by solar,
00:05:48.480 they don't depend on fossil fuels at all to run, right?
00:05:51.580 Right?
00:05:52.460 Right.
00:05:53.500 Right.
00:05:54.240 Yeah, because there's no such thing as electric cars having to be charged up by something that came from fossil fuel.
00:06:02.740 No, what we're finding is that there is a frustration that we are here.
00:06:11.660 There's a frustration that we're to the point where innocent people are being bombarded by Russia.
00:06:20.020 Now, there's lots of different questions about how we got there
00:06:24.760 and whether we would have gotten there had things gone differently in America.
00:06:30.880 But there's a general frustration that we're there.
00:06:34.980 Yeah.
00:06:35.600 But there's also a recognition.
00:06:39.540 Maybe it's the social media involved.
00:06:42.580 Maybe it's the fact that these guys speak English.
00:06:46.440 But certainly watching these people being so defensive of their home and for freedom is inspiring Americans.
00:06:57.580 And what we see in the polls, what people are telling us day after day, they remind us of ourselves.
00:07:04.120 That's what we would do.
00:07:06.440 We would be fighting this hardest than I was trying to take our country.
00:07:10.040 When in people's minds, whether this is accurate or not,
00:07:14.080 is the perception that whether it was us going into Iraq, us going into Afghanistan,
00:07:21.300 the Taliban coming back in Afghanistan, that the military collapse and run.
00:07:25.240 That is people's perception and that the people just lay down.
00:07:30.940 And so, obviously, it's more complicated than that.
00:07:34.520 But for an average person who doesn't pay attention to global foreign policy,
00:07:38.840 it just seems like these people are like us.
00:07:42.140 And, yeah, there are those on the left who try to say that it's some kind of a racial or a religion thing.
00:07:48.760 But it's more that we're seeing images and the public,
00:07:55.240 seeing images they can relate to of places, buildings, homes, town squares that look like what we're used to.
00:08:03.500 And people having broken hearts and broken bones, speaking English, telling us about it.
00:08:10.260 And it's affecting the American public.
00:08:14.180 And it has driven a degree of concern and sympathy that, frankly, has united,
00:08:19.600 no matter how you feel about how we got there, how we get out of there,
00:08:23.880 it has united people across political spectrums and sympathy for these people and wanting to help them.
00:08:29.840 Does that extend to such things, for example, as the United States providing fighter jets,
00:08:40.380 even if they are the MiG-29s from Poland?
00:08:45.240 How strong a current is there that the United States should, at the very least,
00:08:50.340 be supporting with a huge commitment the people of Ukraine?
00:08:56.380 Well, it's interesting.
00:08:59.460 We have a poll on that coming out tonight.
00:09:04.920 But I can tell you right now that the support for Poland giving the MiGs,
00:09:15.560 the trained pilots already know how to fly, and America backfilling,
00:09:20.920 and the place of those planes with F-16s is one of the highest numbers there was.
00:09:27.140 And it is well over 65%.
00:09:32.920 Wow.
00:09:34.800 The public is very much for that.
00:09:37.060 And they do not understand that, that that's a problem.
00:09:42.480 And there is one survey that we can talk about that we're actually going to kind of break on your show today.
00:09:50.520 And that's where the public is on the no-fly zone.
00:09:54.220 And the American public, on the idea of NATO setting up a no-fly zone, which would stop the Russian attacks,
00:10:03.480 even if that leads to a direct confrontation with the U.S. and Russia, and I do apologize.
00:10:09.880 I think my neighbors are having their floors redone.
00:10:13.880 Not at all.
00:10:15.720 So setting up a no-fly zone, definitely yes, 20.8.
00:10:23.440 Yes, 22.9.
00:10:27.080 No, 21.2.
00:10:29.580 And definitely no, 15.1.
00:10:32.620 So that is 43.7.
00:10:37.460 Say yes for no-fly.
00:10:38.720 And that's 36.3% say no.
00:10:44.720 So that's pretty easily about 19% are not sure.
00:10:47.740 Not a majority, but a plurality.
00:10:50.280 And with a huge number of not sure, undecideds in that, I'm frankly surprised by that number.
00:10:58.980 Because Vladimir Putin has told the United States in no uncertain terms, attempting to put a no-fly zone over Ukraine, he would consider an act of war.
00:11:10.880 Well, and we tried to make the question as fair as we could, which we said would stop the Russian attacks,
00:11:17.700 even if that means risking a direct confrontation between the U.S. and Russia.
00:11:25.760 I don't think we could be any more.
00:11:26.800 We weren't trying to act like it's just this word that doesn't mean anything.
00:11:32.820 But I think there is a point when the people are like, they're tired of somebody's saber-rattling.
00:11:43.860 Yeah.
00:11:44.960 And it's one of those things where a rational actor, a rational person, which people are not,
00:11:54.260 makes decisions just based on what's in their best interest.
00:11:59.420 They actually analyze it and do things for their best interest.
00:12:02.100 But in this world, we consider somebody that, who makes decisions only that way, calculating, and we don't like those people.
00:12:09.320 But average people, especially Americans, let's take a situation.
00:12:13.020 You have a bunch of gangbangers on a street corner, and they start beating up a little old lady.
00:12:20.880 There's six of them.
00:12:22.620 You're all by yourself.
00:12:24.720 You know, if you go over there, the chances of you getting beat up really bad or getting killed exist.
00:12:34.460 But how long are you going to watch them beat up that little old lady?
00:12:37.200 And I'm telling you, America's full of people who can't watch that little old lady get beat up very long.
00:12:42.820 But when I looked at this recent poll that said, that revealed, looking at both Democrats and Republicans, people identify them as such,
00:12:55.420 that 60-plus percent of the Democrats surveyed, if Russia invaded, was the question, would you stand and fight or would you cut and run?
00:13:05.180 60% of the Democrats said they're going to cut and run.
00:13:10.880 And about 60% of the Republicans said they're going to stay and fight.
00:13:16.040 And that's a divide I don't think most people have thought about.
00:13:19.160 And with your example there, I mean, this really is a troubling time, but it's good to know that at least this many people are willing to risk their lives, the country, to do the right thing.
00:13:36.600 Now, on the other hand, how do we assess that risk?
00:13:39.700 Absolutely. I mean, that's what it comes down to.
00:13:44.800 Like I said, these are emotions, these are complex emotions, but there is just something about America that feels like we have to step that forward right because no one else will if we don't.
00:13:57.200 Now, on that poll you referenced, I haven't seen the one you referenced, Lou, but I tell you, I'd love to see a regional breakdown on that.
00:14:03.600 It was the most recent Quinnipiac poll, by the way.
00:14:07.560 The issue here to me is that in Ukraine, we have a NATO organization that Donald Trump taught us wasn't doing very much and certainly wasn't doing enough.
00:14:20.460 And we're coming off of a 20-year horrible experience in Afghanistan.
00:14:26.920 We had a nine-year horrible experience in Iraq.
00:14:31.640 And at some point, the American people have to be satisfied with the answer to the question,
00:14:36.800 what is the U.S. interest in Iraq, in Afghanistan, or now a European nation in which its neighbors will not defend their neighbor against the second most powerful military in the world, the Russian military?
00:14:56.500 You're thinking on that.
00:14:57.900 Well, first of all, I think we need to reevaluate how we rank these militaries because these guys may have been the second most powerful nuclear force.
00:15:15.980 But, you know, to quote Louis Grazard here, my dear departed hero, these guys could beat Vanderbilt.
00:15:25.640 I mean, they're not very good.
00:15:27.100 But it's pretty sad that they're so disorganized.
00:15:33.240 And this has been seen to be kind of a paper tiger.
00:15:37.920 But it's the inherent conflict that comes.
00:15:41.980 I don't think that the European nations are as much afraid, but they're caught.
00:15:50.080 I mean, this is the point that Trump made when he was sitting there in that meeting with NATO.
00:15:57.100 And he talked about we're defending you from people that you're depending on.
00:16:01.500 There you go.
00:16:02.240 Like, that's a problem.
00:16:04.240 I mean, so I don't – what I can tell you, and I think there's a difference in NATO bloc countries.
00:16:10.800 When I see – what I see from the different groups, these countries, you know, you're Poland, you're Romania, you're Hungary.
00:16:19.020 Are you – like, these guys know what the Russians are bringing?
00:16:24.280 They don't want none of it.
00:16:26.160 Yeah.
00:16:26.600 They were there.
00:16:27.620 There's enough people alive who've been through this.
00:16:30.620 Now, Europe – you know, they've been living in socialist paradise for a whole generation, so they don't really know what they could be missing.
00:16:36.980 But, you know, Western Europe is as luxury of not knowing what it's like to live in a totalitarian state.
00:16:45.380 But these guys do, and I don't think – I think you'd be hard-pressed to find if all the – if they just unleash them.
00:16:55.320 I don't think the people in Poland – I don't think there's a lot of people afraid to stand up over there.
00:17:01.240 I think –
00:17:02.240 Well, I think that's true.
00:17:02.840 I think that's true of the polls.
00:17:04.060 I absolutely do.
00:17:05.620 Is it true of – is it true of, for example, the UK, France?
00:17:14.320 You know, I'm not sure.
00:17:15.880 Germany?
00:17:16.860 You know, they're going to lose half their energy, to your point earlier.
00:17:20.900 It's a – you know, it's a very open bet to me as to exactly what Europe would do.
00:17:26.360 And the idea that the United States would have to resort to a subterfuge, a public subterfuge, that is, Poland transfers its MiG-29s to Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany, and we get them to the Ukrainian pilots.
00:17:47.040 You know, that makes us look like two things.
00:17:49.180 One, cowardly, and two, really kind of confused about what we're doing.
00:17:56.000 That isn't the way a superpower, the greatest constitutional republic in this world's history, operates.
00:18:02.960 If we say to the Russians, you will not fly, then we back it up.
00:18:09.060 And if we can't be that straightforward, that open, that direct, then we have no business getting involved, in my opinion.
00:18:17.520 What do you think?
00:18:18.120 Oh, yeah.
00:18:20.080 And that's what – you know, we do a lot of open ends and listen to people volunteer other information.
00:18:27.860 And one of the things that we're picking up is people are like, at what point does somebody stand up?
00:18:35.580 I mean, everybody acts like, all right, go into a NATO country, and that's a real line.
00:18:40.900 Is it?
00:18:43.420 I mean, if the hint that he'll drop a nuke, is it really?
00:18:48.280 I mean, so let's say he rolls into Latvia.
00:18:52.860 Are we sure that Europe is going to say no to Russian oil and gas for the foreseeable future and risk a nuclear incident on the continent?
00:19:07.520 Are they giving them a piece of Latvia?
00:19:09.880 I'm not sure what the answer to that is.
00:19:12.240 It's when you start dealing with a bully, they're going to push, and they sense weakness.
00:19:21.660 And that is exactly what's happened.
00:19:24.040 And so this idea of – Putin has stuff – people are saying Putin has stuff to lose to.
00:19:31.900 But, you know, I think there's an understanding that there's only so far that things can be pushed.
00:19:40.940 And it is also a luxury that we're, what, 208 years of invasion-free in this country,
00:19:52.240 a foreign country coming on our borders trying to take us over.
00:19:55.260 Right.
00:19:55.880 And a lot of that has to do with the fact that we fight them for to get here.
00:19:58.800 Well, the truth of that – that statement, though, too, Robert, is we've had 2 million people enter this country illegally in the past year.
00:20:08.100 Well, I said – that's why I threw a military in there, because I knew that was coming.
00:20:14.400 I knew you were going to say that.
00:20:15.680 That's why I said military in there.
00:20:17.600 I'm not so sure we know who – well, I'm pretty sure of this.
00:20:21.600 But we don't know who the hell they were, and we don't know what their plans are.
00:20:25.580 And they're not interested in assimilating over the course of time, according to our history.
00:20:34.200 And so I don't really know what to think about 2 million people being in this country
00:20:39.560 and an administration that really doesn't seem to give a damn about our borders,
00:20:43.880 but sure wants to go after those Ukrainian borders.
00:20:46.800 They're not part of the Russian army.
00:20:49.580 One thing's for sure.
00:20:50.840 Those guys that come across the southern border aren't part of the Russian army,
00:20:53.460 because guess what?
00:20:54.100 They got here.
00:20:55.240 Yeah.
00:20:57.520 Well, they got here because there's no resistance.
00:21:00.700 Our border people are great.
00:21:02.060 Yeah.
00:21:02.380 But what we don't have are leaders.
00:21:04.740 We don't have military leaders worth a damn, because we haven't got – I mean, we've got military leaders who actually –
00:21:11.180 one of them just wrote a book 20-some-odd years ago called The Long War,
00:21:15.940 and that became official doctrine of the U.S. Army, and by God, they lived up to it.
00:21:21.060 Ten years in Iraq, 20 years in Afghanistan, and we didn't get a damn thing for it.
00:21:27.220 And we walked away with – thanks to this president – leaving Americans behind, our allies behind,
00:21:35.140 $80 billion worth of equipment, and people sitting here now they're asking big, important questions
00:21:40.900 about what we're having for dinner tonight instead of what in the hell are we doing with Kamala Harris,
00:21:46.540 who has a nervous breakdown and giggles her way through a press conference in Poland
00:21:51.860 as we are seeking to resolve a military conflict.
00:21:55.440 I mean, where the hell did the Democratic Party find these people,
00:21:59.360 and how in the world did they ever get into office?
00:22:03.200 Well, one of the things that is – we have polled on, and we've got – we're going to be bringing different stuff
00:22:10.440 off this most recent poll because there's so many – I mean, it's just full of great questions
00:22:14.720 and interesting answers – is this idea that did the energy dependence cause this.
00:22:22.680 And I think that's something Europe and – Europe and America are having to come to grips with
00:22:29.680 is there is some environmental hypocrisy that's going up.
00:22:36.740 But it's insidious because the – we've also studied – the American public knows that when you look at
00:22:48.420 who's contributing pollution to the world, it ain't – we're not the leader.
00:22:51.780 It's China, it's Brazil, it's India.
00:22:55.300 So if you really want to clean up the planet, you probably ought to focus there.
00:23:01.220 Yeah, but that's the last place they're going to focus because the environmental terrorists,
00:23:06.820 they're terrorists if they're in this country or Europe.
00:23:10.280 But if they go to Russia or they go to China, they won't be throwing around a lot of loose language
00:23:17.640 like, you know, you people are pigs and you're chewing up all of the resources and polluting the planet.
00:23:24.980 They won't be talking like that.
00:23:27.120 At least if they do, they won't be talking long, right?
00:23:29.960 Exactly.
00:23:32.280 It's kind of like living in a – it's kind of like living in a really nice neighborhood.
00:23:38.720 You know, you've got a nice homeowner's association, all these rules.
00:23:42.420 Yeah.
00:23:43.000 And there's four or five houses that just – man, they've got – they've brought junk cars in.
00:23:48.100 They've got trash in the yard.
00:23:49.420 And it doesn't matter how many times you mow your yard a week or how many times you comb every blade of grass,
00:23:59.340 you're not making that neighborhood look better until you deal with the houses that are really out of sync.
00:24:04.840 Well, it's –
00:24:06.100 And that's what it is with the planet.
00:24:08.720 And let's talk about the leadership of this country because a number of questions I noticed
00:24:13.520 really reflect on the leadership issues here as much as they do the specific questions that you've asked,
00:24:21.520 which I think is very clever of you.
00:24:22.940 But amongst those, the decision to buy oil in Venezuela or Iran or go to the Saudis and beg them.
00:24:32.680 And apparently the beg more oil better plan he's set aside for at least a while
00:24:40.580 but has sent emissaries to Venezuela, another dictatorship.
00:24:46.940 What do people think about buying oil from those folks instead of our neighbors, for example, Canada?
00:24:57.880 This was actually one we released yesterday.
00:25:00.320 Okay, so we asked people where should we replace the ban Russian oil from.
00:25:08.500 76.5 said U.S. oil-producing states like Texas, Pennsylvania, and others.
00:25:16.540 14.9 said Canada.
00:25:19.820 4.5 said Venezuela.
00:25:22.300 2.2 said Iran.
00:25:24.420 And 1.9 said Saudi Arabia.
00:25:26.620 So I think the American public is pretty clear that you've got a three-fourths want to get it from right here
00:25:35.140 and another 15% think it ought to be Canada.
00:25:39.560 So there's nobody confused about where we ought to be getting the oil we need.
00:25:45.540 You know, we've got two kinds of folks here.
00:25:49.160 We've got citizens, and we've got government.
00:25:54.120 And government thinks they're the leaders.
00:25:57.300 But in point of fact, the American people know where we are.
00:26:00.920 We know what we want.
00:26:02.480 We seem to be, according to your polling, very clear-eyed and clear-headed about the situation,
00:26:09.760 whether it's in foreign policy, domestic policy, apology, or whether or not we want a no-fly zone over Ukraine.
00:26:20.400 It's really interesting to look at.
00:26:26.000 That's the biggest thing that we're noticing.
00:26:28.220 If you had to find a theme, that's what we're hearing, is that as high-brow as this sounds,
00:26:36.880 the role of government is a big concern with average families.
00:26:42.860 And they don't think about it with the words of the role of the government,
00:26:46.340 but what they say is, all right, the stuff that the government should do,
00:26:53.780 keep my country safe from what's going on around the world,
00:26:59.860 and keep my currency strong, and keep commerce moving,
00:27:08.100 protect the southern border, protect all borders.
00:27:12.860 Give us safety in our community and homes.
00:27:21.360 Opportunity to start and grow businesses.
00:27:24.280 The things that they want the government to do, it's failing at all of them.
00:27:30.140 The things they don't want government to do, and that is sexualize and racialize everything.
00:27:38.600 Push a green agenda that causes sacrifice that isn't actually making a difference.
00:27:50.520 Pay people not to work.
00:27:52.560 Inflate the currency.
00:27:53.840 Balloon the debt.
00:27:54.800 Like, so what they're saying is, everything we don't want them to do is what they're doing,
00:28:00.340 and they're not doing any of what we want them to do.
00:28:03.300 Well, you know, when you're not doing the things that you exist to do well,
00:28:07.720 you should change what you're doing.
00:28:09.780 For example, I mentioned Kamala Harris.
00:28:13.280 I mentioned Joe Biden.
00:28:15.200 Those are two of the last people on this planet that I would want to have in the top two offices of this country's government.
00:28:23.620 They are amongst the very last people in the entire country that I would want to follow into war.
00:28:30.840 However, they are amongst the very last people I want to see on television, to tell you the truth.
00:28:37.500 It's the elites in this country have lost their minds because they're in office because the elites know they can manage them,
00:28:45.760 that they are nothing more than puppets, and that the cabal that runs this country,
00:28:50.140 and we'll get into the definition of cabal and who are the members,
00:28:55.120 but the fact is we're in a terrible situation.
00:28:58.300 You talked about that we're no longer energy independent.
00:29:01.940 We haven't been independent of China for a very long time.
00:29:06.640 We need China for all—I don't know how many people would die if China cut off all of our pharmaceuticals,
00:29:14.180 all of our pharmaceutical ingredients that are used, along with India.
00:29:19.280 We are a nation that is—and we're talking about the number one enemy of the United States in China.
00:29:28.300 China killed a million Americans and sickened more than half the nation, and there was no accounting for it.
00:29:36.140 And I say to you, the reason is not because we're afraid of them militarily, not for that reason,
00:29:42.820 not because we don't want to hold them accountable, but because we're scared to death of not getting our Apple phones.
00:29:51.220 We're scared to death of not getting our drugs, our pharmaceuticals.
00:29:55.560 We don't mind, by the way, if you send your fentanyl to this country, Communist China,
00:30:00.940 because, you know, 100,000 overdoses a year are accredited to fentanyl.
00:30:07.140 We'll just call collateral damage.
00:30:09.200 I mean, this is an appalling situation, and our leaders and both parties are running from that reality, in my opinion, Robert.
00:30:15.620 There's no question.
00:30:18.880 And it—the public—again, this is a bipartisan thing.
00:30:25.440 There is not any confusion among Democrats and Republicans.
00:30:29.620 The decoupling from China is the right answer.
00:30:32.380 There's not confusion on this issue.
00:30:34.400 And it is a matter of how, and it wasn't Democrats alone—people know that Republicans and Democrats got us into this vote.
00:30:47.660 You know, the Mitt Romney job shippers were just as guilty as some of the—as many of the Democrat leaders were.
00:30:55.460 You know, the diesel robber barons that didn't carry anything, that bankrupt a small town so they can make something for a nickel cheaper in China.
00:31:02.220 Like, there's a lot of blame on both sides.
00:31:07.020 But it has got to be dealt with.
00:31:09.820 It's got to be dealt with.
00:31:11.540 And, you know, I'd love to see you poll on that issue of dependency in America
00:31:19.300 and the degree to which it's shaping our foreign policy and our very culture.
00:31:22.800 because I truly believe there's a reason that the Republican Party has gutless leadership, you know,
00:31:31.080 because they are afraid of their great donors and sponsors, all of whom are big U.S. multinationals and Wall Street,
00:31:43.080 who are right now directing trillions of dollars to China because their masters tell them to
00:31:50.080 so that they can have their share of the profits at the expense of American citizens.
00:31:56.800 The middle class in this country and those who aspire to it are getting killed, Robert.
00:32:02.000 Jim DeMint wrote a wonderful editorial in The Federalist this week
00:32:05.880 in which he talked about the old ways of the Republican Party are no longer sufficient
00:32:12.120 because these citizens, the middle class and those who are working men and women and their families,
00:32:20.120 they want this fixed.
00:32:22.340 They want this country to have straight leaders, honest leaders, direct leaders.
00:32:28.540 And they've got, in Mitch McConnell and McCarthy, you know, they've got two sops who will do whatever the heck
00:32:36.640 their donor class buddies tell them to do.
00:32:41.380 In that, the Republican Party has not changed a whit.
00:32:44.240 And what's at risk here is the outcome of this election.
00:32:48.300 In November, our midterm elections.
00:32:51.300 It's a time to start listening to the people.
00:32:54.820 I've always believed in markets and finance and economics,
00:32:57.700 the Federal Reserve, their job is to follow markets, not to lead markets.
00:33:02.980 And, by the way, it would be a great thing for our leaders, newly humbled, to do as well.
00:33:09.360 Follow the American people for a while because trying to lead them sure hasn't worked out for the country.
00:33:15.180 Your thoughts?
00:33:16.260 Listen to them.
00:33:17.720 Just listen.
00:33:19.200 I mean, that's the thing is, it's so frustrating to me,
00:33:22.940 is these guys have pollsters that they know where people stand.
00:33:30.160 Now, granted, we have a lot of agenda-driven pollsters who really, you know,
00:33:33.600 who are getting paid by big corporations and telling leaders things that don't actually exist,
00:33:39.720 don't represent where people feel.
00:33:41.400 But the fact is, if you're a senator representative, just spend some time in your district.
00:33:49.180 Go to the grocery store, for God's sake.
00:33:51.480 You're going to figure out what you need to be doing.
00:33:54.460 It's not confusing.
00:33:55.900 There is an American consensus on it.
00:33:58.660 They want a reasonable cost to fill up their car full of gas.
00:34:04.400 They want to not have to break the bank to go to the grocery store.
00:34:09.460 They want their dollar to not continue to be worthless.
00:34:16.440 And they look at things like paying people not to work
00:34:20.860 and basically waiving everybody's rent for a year,
00:34:24.700 including those who didn't need it and giving out all this government money
00:34:29.060 to people who so many have used it.
00:34:31.180 And they're like, this is how we got in this mess.
00:34:34.660 And they know it.
00:34:37.200 And then we don't have the money to pay the police.
00:34:41.160 You know, I mean, like, it doesn't make any sense.
00:34:44.700 It doesn't make a lick of sense.
00:34:46.320 And the trillions that we've wasted,
00:34:48.540 and now the radical Dems, the Marxist Democratic Party,
00:34:52.780 is trying to destroy this country through the debt that they're creating.
00:34:57.400 And at the same time, driving hyperinflation that we're only a few percentage points away
00:35:04.200 from being at hyperinflation in this country.
00:35:06.880 And frankly, that will break the back of working men and women in this country.
00:35:12.540 And damn both parties for not getting after it.
00:35:16.300 I mean, I really, our middle class shouldn't have to put up with this.
00:35:20.900 They shouldn't have to contend with leaders who don't give enough of a damn
00:35:25.780 to fix what's wrong and what is obviously wrong in this country.
00:35:29.560 And the first thing that's wrong are the leaders we've chosen.
00:35:33.060 Without Donald Trump to lead the Republican Party,
00:35:35.780 it's nothing more than a hollow fundraising machine at the RNC.
00:35:40.860 It's got to be about his values,
00:35:44.120 America first, making and keeping America great.
00:35:47.560 And devil take the hindmost.
00:35:50.700 He taught us to speak directly and plainly and to insist on tax cuts when we mean tax cuts,
00:35:59.160 to insist on hiring Americans first, buying American.
00:36:04.680 And yes, get your damn manufacturing plants back here because the companies didn't do that.
00:36:10.020 There was a silly article today talking about the idea of the CEOs and the leaders of big business
00:36:21.640 finally getting used to the idea they may have to bring these jobs home, these plants home.
00:36:26.900 But you know what?
00:36:28.100 The hell with those CEOs and those business leaders who carried out labor arbitrage
00:36:33.840 were the cheapest labor markets in the world and broke the backs of 7 million Americans
00:36:39.500 who lost their jobs to outsourcing to those foreign markets.
00:36:43.680 And the gutless corporate media won't tell the story, won't honestly report the facts.
00:36:48.660 And the facts are that the AP story on those brave CEOs who are now recognizing they should bring those jobs home,
00:36:57.240 they've been cowards, they've exploited, and they have done so at the expense of the national interest
00:37:03.900 and the lives of those men and women who lost their jobs and their families.
00:37:08.800 It's a sin, it's a shame, and we've got to at least talk straight about it so we don't ever repeat it.
00:37:17.060 There's no question about it.
00:37:18.620 And it's a perfect place to add back in that environmental hypocrisy because if you really care about the environment,
00:37:26.540 then a factory, any factory, I don't care what they're making, that's located in the continental United States
00:37:32.340 is going to pollute less making that item than it would in China.
00:37:38.140 So don't tell me you care about the environment when you let that factory get built in a place that pollutes more.
00:37:45.080 That's environmental hypocrisy.
00:37:46.560 Yeah, it is.
00:37:47.700 And, you know, it actually extends from there because every one of those supercarriers,
00:37:55.060 those ships carrying those containers with all those goods from principally China,
00:37:59.940 Southeast Asia to this country, the European car makers from Japan,
00:38:05.880 all of those tankers are spewing petrochemicals into the planet at a rate that you would,
00:38:13.220 you know, it's just exponential, exponential pollution that's resulting, and the carbon footprint is massive,
00:38:20.860 and it takes a very elemental mind to understand this, and I bring such an elemental mind to it.
00:38:27.680 It can't possibly be as efficient to produce all of those goods thousands of miles away,
00:38:37.540 then transport it all the way to the United States, then transport it throughout the United States.
00:38:43.660 It can't possibly be as efficient as building those factories in every region of this country
00:38:49.440 and transporting them to those stores.
00:38:52.940 It is, globalization is bad for business.
00:38:56.520 Globalization has proved to be a disaster.
00:38:59.120 It's created dependency in all of the wrong places, in our defense structure,
00:39:05.340 in our pharmaceutical and medical equipment structure,
00:39:09.620 even automobiles that we're dependent on in every other part of the planet for parts.
00:39:15.460 We are mad to continue this experiment because, financially,
00:39:19.840 it is extraordinarily rewarding to the market-based businesses and financial organizations,
00:39:26.540 but it tears apart this society.
00:39:29.480 And if you start the market where we started, globalization and labor arbitrage,
00:39:35.040 outsourcing jobs, offshoring plants,
00:39:37.320 that's when this country went into sharp and significant decline
00:39:41.300 and created greater and greater dependency
00:39:43.340 that is distorting everything about public policy in this great nation.
00:39:48.700 You know, Robert, I just, it's sobering to see the results of your polling
00:39:57.380 and to see what the American people will stand up.
00:40:00.380 I have to say, it makes me proud to be one of the folks that you're surveying,
00:40:04.760 not literally, but to be a citizen along with those who are giving these results.
00:40:09.820 I am delighted to see the results,
00:40:12.520 and I'm delighted to have an opportunity to talk with you.
00:40:15.080 We always give you and all our guests the last word, so if you will, sir.
00:40:21.920 Well, I think what we're seeing is a recognition from average people
00:40:28.340 that just how out of touch the Democrat Party has become.
00:40:35.640 And, you know, and this was, the Democrat Party used to be a party
00:40:41.960 where someone like a Kyrsten Sinema, a Joe Manchin,
00:40:46.740 maybe was on the right of their spectrum, but wasn't unwelcome.
00:40:53.700 And so they have moved so far to such an agenda,
00:41:01.720 and they have let the leftmost element dominate their party so much
00:41:07.820 that they're going to see the cost of that.
00:41:11.080 Because when you forget what average Americans care about,
00:41:15.960 and you focus on all this stuff that they don't,
00:41:20.100 you know, average Americans, they've always wanted the same thing.
00:41:25.420 They want a better life for their kids than they had.
00:41:28.820 They want to work hard.
00:41:30.640 They want to play by the rules, and they want to be able to provide.
00:41:35.100 And when you get them, when you tell them you have to live with crazy gas prices,
00:41:41.280 you have to live with more fentanyl and overdoses in your community
00:41:46.860 than you've ever seen.
00:41:48.120 You have to live with what's happening in your communities
00:41:53.580 with public safety falling apart.
00:41:56.300 You have to live with all that because we're focused on white rage
00:42:02.240 in the military and transgender bias.
00:42:04.960 You know, there comes a point where people are like, wait a minute.
00:42:08.620 Don't I have a say-so?
00:42:10.400 Yeah.
00:42:11.280 And I think we're at that moment.
00:42:13.200 We're at that moment where people are saying, wait a minute.
00:42:16.460 Shouldn't this government reflect what I want?
00:42:21.060 I think it is.
00:42:22.200 Hell yes.
00:42:24.060 And, you know, the only thing I think that could happen that is of concern is,
00:42:32.000 like I said, this whole war thing is muddled and muddied things.
00:42:36.400 And, you know, six months ago, I was like, oh, the Republicans are going to have a landslide.
00:42:43.860 Well, first of all, never underestimate the Republican Party's ability to screw up a good thing.
00:42:47.980 And second, they're not, the Democrats aren't stupid.
00:42:54.940 They're not stupid at all.
00:42:56.440 But sometimes some of the things they do seem like that.
00:42:58.740 But there's a lot of very strong strategic people, and they are trying to figure out a way back.
00:43:04.800 And using this war and blaming some of these problems on that are going to be somewhat effective in distracting people.
00:43:17.360 We've seen an uptick in Biden's approval.
00:43:20.520 You know, he's certainly not back.
00:43:22.400 But it is reality that he's moved up a little bit in the last few weeks.
00:43:28.400 And people need to be ever vigilant and do not get ever confident.
00:43:33.880 Yeah, and never, ever underestimate the dogged determination of the Democrats to hold on to the power that they have,
00:43:44.940 no matter how they manage to get that power.
00:43:50.540 Robert, thanks so much.
00:43:51.800 We appreciate it.
00:43:52.780 It's great talking with you.
00:43:55.260 And God bless you for being here and for all that you do.
00:43:58.500 We certainly appreciate it.
00:44:00.000 Look forward to talking to you the next time.
00:44:01.920 Sounds good, and I appreciate it, and hope to talk to you all again soon.
00:44:06.860 You got a deal.
00:44:07.860 Thank you, sir.
00:44:09.400 Robert Cahaley of the Trafalgar Group, a great American and a great strategist and pollster to boot.
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00:44:52.400 Now we have with us on the Great America Show, as the world watches all that is happening in Ukraine's fight to defend against the invading Russians, we have with us Katie Arrington, a Republican candidate in South Carolina's first congressional district, who's been endorsed by President Trump, who's worked in the Department of Defense.
00:45:13.280 She is a wife and mother, a mother of three.
00:45:16.240 Katie is running in the primary election against the incumbent Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace, who, for criticizing Donald Trump in the January 6th rally, has a considerable fight on her hands.
00:45:30.560 Katie is a conservative pro-Trump candidate.
00:45:33.380 It's good to have you here on the Great America Show.
00:45:36.200 Welcome, Katie.
00:45:37.500 Thank you, Mr. Dobbs.
00:45:38.860 And it's been a minute since we've spoken.
00:45:42.240 In 2018, you were one of the first people I spoke to after a horrendous accident.
00:45:47.320 And you are truly one of the great American good men, gentlemen, and good to be here today and looking forward to talking.
00:45:55.420 Well, thank you for that.
00:45:56.700 And let's let's get to it then.
00:45:59.960 You're you're running against an incumbent Republican.
00:46:04.400 Tell us how it came to be.
00:46:05.560 So nothing new there.
00:46:07.460 Right.
00:46:07.760 I'm the I'm the sweet lady that took Mark Sanford out.
00:46:10.900 So, you know, you're welcome, America.
00:46:14.640 And, you know, I was you know, I voted for Nancy Mace in the 2020 election after I lost after being off the campaign trail after that accident in 2018.
00:46:25.280 I went to work in the Pentagon.
00:46:26.760 I went as a highly qualified expert in cybersecurity, became a SES, a senior executive service member, and was the chief information security officer for acquisition and sustainment.
00:46:38.720 So I was working, you know, as I said in my, you know, I owe, I owe.
00:46:43.240 So off to serve, I go.
00:46:45.340 But I was dismayed first that Miss Mace decided to certify the votes.
00:46:50.780 I don't know why she did that.
00:46:52.260 They should have gone back to all the states to do a deep forensic audit than to blame President Trump.
00:46:58.480 And, you know, what really cruxed me on that that whole speech on the floor was the fact that she said that the actions of a few people desecrated four years of the greatest presidency.
00:47:08.300 I think our nation has ever seen.
00:47:10.620 And then she continually.
00:47:12.820 That's some pretty fancy wordsmithing to those two opposite thoughts together in such a fashion.
00:47:21.560 And then she went as far as to say, you know, as somebody who voted for, I want to be the face of the new Republican Party.
00:47:29.120 Well, the thing is, Miss Mace, we didn't send you up there to be at the face of the Republican Party.
00:47:33.400 We sent you to be the backbone of conservatism.
00:47:36.320 And then she went, you know, and continued down this liberal trail of tears, you know, siding with the Democrats to subpoena Steve Bannon.
00:47:45.320 That would be like subpoenaing you, sir.
00:47:47.660 You're allowed your First Amendment right.
00:47:50.580 And she basically sold out, you know, the conservative movement.
00:47:54.680 She's about legalizing marijuana.
00:47:56.660 She's about saving baby pandas from going to China.
00:47:59.180 She isn't prioritizing anything that we need in the first congressional district and neither the nation.
00:48:05.880 You know, inflation, gas prices, national security and border security, voter integrity.
00:48:11.300 She's not paying attention to any of those.
00:48:13.360 So I resigned from the DOD after a long fight of the deep state who went after me, got my clearance back.
00:48:21.400 There was a whole episode there after Biden came in and decided I was going to run because we need a strong conservative in 2022 and in 2024.
00:48:31.500 Yeah, we need a lot of them, Katie, as you know.
00:48:34.120 We need a lot of them.
00:48:35.680 We've got, I think, the principal threat to the Republican Party is its RINO leadership.
00:48:42.200 And then, secondarily, its RINO membership in the House of Representatives.
00:48:48.520 There seems to be a fairly even balance, at least in the membership, between about 50 conservatives, strong, reliable conservatives in the House, Republican conference, and 50 RINOs in that conference.
00:49:06.880 We need those RINOs to leave as soon as possible because, frankly, the party is being poorly served.
00:49:15.920 And to have the same leadership that is Kevin McCarthy in the House and Mitch McConnell is a very difficult chore to turn the tide with those two people in leadership positions.
00:49:32.360 I'm not going to ask you to get into that, but I do want to talk to you about the importance of being pro-Trump, being America first, and what that means to your candidacy and what it means to the way in which you would represent the people of the 1st District.
00:49:48.360 So being, you know, America first, pro-Trump, you know, endorsed by President Trump, and he didn't endorse me because, you know, here, you know, everybody wants to say, oh, he did it because he hates Nancy Mace.
00:49:59.780 No, I mean, I served under the Trump administration in the Pentagon.
00:50:04.560 I led the Department of Defense effort on the COVID supply chain, and I led the FEMA HHS effort on acceleration, the ventilators, getting the, you know, the large amounts of PPE into the country.
00:50:19.280 He saw me working night and day on that for months and months and months.
00:50:22.220 And then when Operation Warp Speed came along, I was, you know, on the team in charge of cybersecurity to make sure that our companies that were developing the vaccine were secure.
00:50:34.100 So President Trump endorsed me because I'm a fighter and that I'm a hard worker and that I don't get caught up in the fray, right?
00:50:42.360 That's the thing that we need.
00:50:43.680 Rhinos get all caught up in the fray.
00:50:45.920 They forget what they're supposed to do.
00:50:48.020 You give me a job, I get my job done.
00:50:50.160 Nancy Mace can't read a rumor if her life depended on it.
00:50:55.040 She thought that as soon as President Trump was out of office, that he would be a forgotten man in history.
00:51:00.880 And that is the most untrue statement.
00:51:04.440 I look at people like, you know, Nancy Mace, Nikki Haley, Mick Mulvaney.
00:51:08.800 They all got famous off of Trump.
00:51:11.380 They all got a voice because of Trump.
00:51:13.480 And then as soon as they had an opportunity to, you know, get the spotlight for themselves, they take it.
00:51:19.120 And that, to me, is sad, right?
00:51:22.040 This is supposed to be Trump.
00:51:23.840 Go ahead.
00:51:24.560 Sorry.
00:51:25.360 That's okay.
00:51:26.120 I hate to interrupt.
00:51:26.980 But I just want to kind of pause and let everybody think about something for just a moment.
00:51:32.420 Those names that you mentioned, what have they ever done?
00:51:37.280 Amen.
00:51:37.600 What is their claim to celebrity and public acclaim?
00:51:44.640 I, frankly, can't think of a thing.
00:51:47.440 Can you?
00:51:48.640 No.
00:51:48.960 I mean, Nikki Haley went to the U.N., and the only reason why she got any FaceTime on, you know, global media is because she had the greatest president of all time backing her up.
00:51:59.560 And then to turn on him because, you know, January 6th, her and Mick Mulvaney, I mean, Mick Mulvaney, for all intents purposes, you know, he was the acting chief of staff for Trump.
00:52:12.820 And he was a, you know, I worked in the White House with them.
00:52:16.040 And he was not an easy person to work with.
00:52:18.360 He got escorted out to become the ambassador, I think, of Northern Ireland.
00:52:22.720 And then he quit promptly on January 6th.
00:52:26.660 You know, it's sad to see people like that.
00:52:29.920 Nancy Mace is right in that crowd, right?
00:52:34.180 Donald J. Trump didn't go to Washington as a politician.
00:52:38.340 All those people I named are career politicians, right?
00:52:42.000 He wasn't.
00:52:42.740 He doesn't want to be.
00:52:43.660 I don't want to be.
00:52:44.880 Servant leadership is what it should be about.
00:52:47.380 I'm term limiting myself.
00:52:49.000 I'm donating, you know, a good portion of my salary to charities in my district because I don't need the money.
00:52:56.420 I'm not going there to get rich.
00:52:57.860 I'm well off.
00:52:58.960 Thank you very much.
00:53:00.160 And I don't think we should have career politicians that turn into rhinos.
00:53:03.420 So I'm denying the congressional health care and retirement because that's what makes a rhino, right?
00:53:11.120 When you're there for so long, you get so embedded with, you know, the A, the pomp and the circumstance of the office, but you don't see the forest for the trees anymore.
00:53:20.300 You forget why you were sent there in the first place.
00:53:23.020 So I think all those people are a sham.
00:53:26.240 Yeah, I would like to believe that's a definition of a rhino, and I think it is certainly one.
00:53:31.780 But I think that you're talking about a lot of people who haven't got the courage to be what they are in front of the public, and that is a Democrat.
00:53:42.460 When I watch these folks, the way they behave, whether they're-
00:53:47.240 You mean a jackass?
00:53:48.340 Sorry.
00:53:50.320 That's one word that I think would apply vividly and correctly.
00:53:53.760 But I also think it's duplicitous, it's deceitful and dishonest what they do, and they don't represent the people of their district by being all of those things.
00:54:06.780 It's a position and a job of trust, and trust means having absolute faith that the other person is honest.
00:54:15.640 And I don't see anything honest about what the rhinos are doing, and they're certainly not serving the national interest when they follow the values they do.
00:54:23.760 Give me a sense of what you're thinking right now as we watch what is happening in Ukraine, the brave defense of Ukraine by those people.
00:54:37.740 The Ukrainian military has done amazingly up against one of the strongest militaries in all the world, and the civilian resistance.
00:54:46.720 And President Zelensky, who has rallied all of the people of Ukraine, and indeed the world.
00:54:55.020 So, A, just, I wish they had the Second Amendment, right?
00:54:59.000 Life would be a lot easier if they had the Second Amendment in Ukraine.
00:55:01.960 But as somebody in the Department of Defense that watched over this, and, you know, we would constantly war game, you know, Putin invading Ukraine and China invading Taiwan.
00:55:14.660 I don't think anybody saw the passion that the Ukrainian people have for their country and defending it.
00:55:24.260 So, I'm in awe.
00:55:25.780 I think it's one of the most beautiful things in the world where you see people who are willing to sacrifice everything to protect their homeland.
00:55:32.580 And we, as Americans, we take for granted that, you know, we haven't been attacked on our shores, aside from 9-11.
00:55:41.760 But those people are amazing.
00:55:43.680 And that truly is one of the most inspiring things I've seen in my lifetime.
00:55:48.600 I think that beautiful older woman standing on the border of Russia and Ukraine throwing sunflower seeds on Russian soldiers and saying to them,
00:55:56.620 where your body lies, I hope flowers grow, that it's just amazing.
00:56:02.080 And for a president to say, don't come get me, leave me, I'm locking arm with my men.
00:56:08.280 It's so like our founding fathers.
00:56:10.660 And it's breathtaking.
00:56:12.540 It's beautiful.
00:56:13.920 And if nothing else, it should show Americans.
00:56:17.260 You should be damn proud of where you live right now.
00:56:19.900 All of us should have that same fight in us for our country.
00:56:23.720 And they should be concerned that, you know, things like that easily could happen to us.
00:56:29.560 Look what happened in Canada.
00:56:31.320 And we need to be on guard.
00:56:33.180 But I think the Ukrainian people are, they should win the Nobel Peace Prize this year.
00:56:37.900 The entire country.
00:56:39.420 Yeah, I agree.
00:56:41.060 And I hope that this ends as well as it appears right now.
00:56:45.080 But the Russians have immense might.
00:56:48.360 A leader who is willing to put his nuclear forces on high alert.
00:56:52.500 And to try to crush the Ukrainian people who have been so valiant in defending their nation.
00:57:02.600 You know, I pray to God that he defends Ukraine and the Ukrainians against this monster.
00:57:10.860 And his sidekick, Xi Jinping, in their strategic partnership.
00:57:15.960 So, one of the things that I, you know, as a cyber person, cyber SME, I can tell you, the white hat hackers, it's great when you have the rest of the world saying, this is not right.
00:57:30.120 It was beautiful artwork.
00:57:32.180 And I will tell you, it is truly artwork, these masters, that shut down the Kremlin a few days ago.
00:57:39.620 I spoke fluently and feverishly in the Department of Defense for three plus years that the next war may start in a kinetic fashion, but it's going to end in a cyber fashion.
00:57:50.780 Putin is no, you know, this isn't new to him.
00:57:53.400 When, you know, Bush was, in his view, a lame duck president in 2008, when Obama was being elected, he did this to the nation state of Georgia.
00:58:03.520 He did it again in 2014.
00:58:05.440 So, Putin has a history of this.
00:58:07.380 This is nothing new.
00:58:08.860 It's just his newest move.
00:58:10.660 I would say that right now, we U.S. citizens have more on our side than you realize to help the Ukrainian people.
00:58:18.420 U.S. cybercom, the 10th fleet, you know, Putin has got his guys on the ground, but he also has cyber warriors across the world trying to take him out left and right.
00:58:29.660 And, you know, thank God for those people that are doing the right things.
00:58:33.060 It would be really nice if our European, you know, allied partners got a backbone, would stop buying, you know, natural gas.
00:58:42.640 President Trump called Germany out, you know, I think in 2019 and said, you're buying 70% of your natural gas from Russia.
00:58:50.120 Do you think that's a bad idea?
00:58:51.900 So, our sanctions, when it comes to Russia, are a day late and a dollar short, right?
00:58:56.480 He's getting all the money he needs through the natural gas.
00:58:59.800 I mean, shame on Biden for shutting down the Keystone pipeline.
00:59:03.800 Shame on Biden for not being more aggressive in defending our partners around the world.
00:59:10.140 And, you know, standing up to Putin and defending the people like Ukraine.
00:59:15.740 He could have done a hell of a lot more, but he is the weakest president in U.S. history, coming in on the tails of the strongest president in U.S. history.
00:59:24.640 And look at Putin's time, you know, look over the record, right?
00:59:28.340 The only time Putin didn't try something was under Trump's administration.
00:59:31.920 And that should ring loud and clear with Americans.
00:59:34.120 Yeah, the president, President Trump pointing that out yesterday, saying, point blank, this is not an accident when I was president, that we didn't hear from Kim Jong-un.
00:59:49.100 We didn't hear from China.
00:59:50.900 And we didn't hear from Russia.
00:59:53.760 And to hear the propaganda about, well, you know, this Biden has really done his very best and so forth.
01:00:01.480 I mean, Biden wasn't even in the White House as Putin was raising his nuclear forces to high alert.
01:00:11.280 It is appalling what's happening.
01:00:13.520 But I'll tell you something that I have, and I never thought I'd say this.
01:00:16.540 I feel strongly that Biden receding from the public Western stage right now and giving the Europeans their head to drive forward, to lead on Ukraine, is the smartest and best thing that we could have asked for.
01:00:39.620 Because you mentioned Germany.
01:00:41.800 Germany has now reversed themselves and are standing up.
01:00:45.560 They are shipping weapons and arms and money to Ukraine.
01:00:51.240 The Swiss, for crying out loud, who are historically neutral, have suddenly found a heart and a spine and are saying, point blank, we support Ukraine and we will give you aid and assistance in every way possible.
01:01:09.280 That is a major statement.
01:01:11.440 And the European Union, to not wait on Boris Johnson or Olaf Schoen in Germany or whomever.
01:01:19.840 The reality is the European Union is acting with strength.
01:01:24.180 And that means that there won't be a need for American troops.
01:01:30.220 There won't be a need for American forces, certainly on the ground, because the Europeans are now, for the first time in three quarters of a century, standing up for themselves instead of depending upon the United States.
01:01:44.300 I see that as a wonderful development.
01:01:47.480 Absolutely.
01:01:48.320 And we don't need to be the world's policemen.
01:01:51.100 I mean, that's never the role of the United States.
01:01:53.420 I mean, you know, America first.
01:01:55.920 And, you know, I love to use the analogy, Lou, you know, when you get on the plane, the flight attendant who's there to protect your safety in the event of an emergency.
01:02:02.740 You know, when the oxygen mask comes on, you put it on yourself first before you help others.
01:02:08.440 And, you know, I would be, you know, the blood of 13 servicemen is on Biden's hands because I'm telling you, I helped write the plan to withdraw out of Afghanistan.
01:02:20.560 And what he did, it wasn't the plan.
01:02:22.800 All you had to do was open the book.
01:02:24.520 It's really easy.
01:02:25.340 He has no leadership, no diplomacy.
01:02:29.760 No one respects him.
01:02:31.420 So it's best that he goes back to the basement and stays there.
01:02:35.300 Let Europe take care of Europe.
01:02:37.920 We should supply them with as much military support, not by bodies, but by cyber, by weapons, whatever they need to defend themselves.
01:02:47.460 We should absolutely be there.
01:02:48.540 But as you're right, you know, Trump warned Europeans, don't get in bed with Putin.
01:02:53.700 Don't get so far involved with him that you can't exist without him because he will turn on you.
01:02:58.320 And he did.
01:02:59.900 And it's, you know, finally there.
01:03:02.320 Aided, in my opinion, by the weakness of Biden and the incompetence, ineptitude of his entire administration.
01:03:10.680 So, Lou, go on that, right?
01:03:13.040 And I'm sorry, I don't mean to take your time, but you know what?
01:03:15.440 The gentleman who's in charge of the industrial base right now, right?
01:03:18.880 The guy that I reported to when I stayed through Biden, his sole credibility to being there when he introduced himself was,
01:03:27.520 I'm the first openly gay Latino indigenous deputy assistant secretary the department has ever had.
01:03:33.740 I said, so what's your experience, sir?
01:03:35.620 I wrote a really great speech for Barack Obama.
01:03:37.880 That literally is how the Biden administration picks people to take over our Department of Defense.
01:03:45.280 We are in a hot, hot mess because we have the weakest president, the weakest administration, the weakest foreign policy.
01:03:53.480 And they have gone, literally, if there couldn't be a book on how to derail a great economy, a great country,
01:04:00.720 you know, Biden's like reading page by page, and you got to give it to Barack Obama in this one thing, right?
01:04:08.040 Remember what Barack said about Biden?
01:04:10.540 Never underestimate Joe's ability to blank things up.
01:04:14.720 Yep, to screw things up, I believe is a paraphrase.
01:04:17.940 And Bob Gates, the defense secretary for both Republican and Democratic presidents, said of Joe Biden that he has not been right on a single foreign policy issue in what then was 40 years.
01:04:35.640 It's now added a few years to it.
01:04:37.880 That was the quote.
01:04:40.280 You know, we're going to, Katie, it's great to talk with you.
01:04:43.240 I thank you for being with us.
01:04:44.540 We're going to sum it up here, if we can.
01:04:47.820 We always give our guests the last succinct concluding word, and it is your time.
01:04:55.780 Here you go.
01:04:56.860 So, for all of your listeners, I am running against a rhino.
01:05:01.520 I need your help.
01:05:02.800 My website is katie4sc.com.
01:05:06.600 That's katie4sc.com.
01:05:09.920 I need help.
01:05:10.880 Sadly, you know, to get the right people in office, it's going to take, and I know times are tough for everybody with all the Biden inflation, but we need donations, we need your support, and you need to get the word out that there are good conservatives running for office.
01:05:24.400 And the last thing that I'll leave you with, Mr. Dobbs, is that I don't know why in the world anybody would think somebody who has spent 47 years making the problems that exist today, Joe Biden, should be president.
01:05:36.700 We should never vote by either party for somebody who's been there so long.
01:05:43.320 Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, all of them, you know, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, they all need to go.
01:05:49.640 We need to have some new blood in Washington, drain the swamp, and I ask your support of your listeners and for you, sir, to get behind me and help drain that swamp.
01:06:00.200 Sounds like a plan to me.
01:06:02.220 Katie, thanks for being with us.
01:06:03.560 We appreciate it so much.
01:06:04.680 We wish you all of the best in your race there in the First District of South Carolina.
01:06:09.540 And, again, Katie, give us that website URL one more time.
01:06:14.680 Sure.
01:06:15.040 It's katieforsc.com.
01:06:18.660 That's katieforsc.com.
01:06:20.760 And, Lou, to one of the kindest, most gentle gentlemen on the airwaves, thank you for your time today, sir.
01:06:28.940 I know it's very treasured, and I'm grateful that you extended the opportunity for me to speak.
01:06:34.900 Well, it's great to have you here.
01:06:36.340 We thank you so much.
01:06:37.520 Appreciate it.
01:06:38.120 Bye-bye.
01:06:39.640 God bless you.
01:06:40.120 God bless you, sir.
01:06:41.520 Thank you.
01:06:42.420 Katie Arrington.
01:06:43.420 She's a great American.
01:06:44.920 And tomorrow we'll have with us President Trump's former chief of staff, a man in the crosshairs of the radical-dim Soviet-style January 6th committee.
01:06:53.660 And also joining us, Colonel Doug McGregor on the latest developments in the Russia war on Ukraine.
01:06:59.260 That's tomorrow here on The Great America Show.
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01:07:04.040 Until then, God bless you, and God bless America.
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01:07:11.680 Stay in the fight.
01:07:12.660 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.
01:07:18.080 Not even for the conquerors.
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01:07:21.740 Let's up to that corner.
01:07:23.600 See you next time.
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01:07:27.340 We'll have to stay for now.
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