The Great America Show - December 07, 2022


CAN TWO BILLIONAIRE CREATORS AND DISRUPTERS SAVE THE REPUBLIC？ CAN WE SURVIVE RIGGED ELECTIONS AND A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT？

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Elon Musk revelations on Hunter Laptop China's influence operation political persecution and primary election
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Lou Dobbs John Fawcett
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Hunter Biden Donald Trump Joe Biden Miranda Devine Kevin McCarthy Elon Musk Ron DeSantis Lee Zeldin Matt Gaetz Tim Cook Ronna McDaniel James Comer Jim Jordan Kanye West-Nicks-Wentes Michael Landon Jason Chaffetz Glenn Youngkin Nancy Pelosi Xi Jinping Trey Gowdy and 4 more
STEVE BANNON SAYS THE COUNTRY IS NEARING A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS AND THE WALKER-WARNOCK RUN-OFF IS A SQUEAKER REP MATT GAETZ SAYS WE’RE A COUNTRY IN DECLINE WITH A PRESIDENT IN DECLINE. WE HAVE TO WAKE UP A LOT OF AMERICANS TO FACE OUR THREATS

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The New York Post's Miranda Devine joins host Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show to discuss the latest in the Hunter Biden scandal, Elon Musk's revelation that the FBI was colluding with Marxist Democrats to keep the truth out of the public eye, and the deep state s campaign to smear Donald Trump.

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00:00:00.140 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is The Great America Show. Welcome and great to have you with us, as always.
00:00:07.340 Today, Miranda Devine joins us. Miranda is the ultra-talented star columnist for the New York Post,
00:00:14.000 and she'll be giving us her latest take on Hunter Biden, the robust investigations that the Republicans are opening up,
00:00:21.380 and yes, included in it all will be Hunter's father, Joe Biden, swamp swami, and the swamp is alive to a new breeze rolling in over the waters.
00:00:33.420 Turns out that not all oligarchs are beyond concern for the nation and the American people.
00:00:40.100 Enter Elon Musk, who has just pulled back the underbrush where Twitter executives had buried much of the evidence of their complicity
00:00:48.300 with the FBI in suppressing the truth of Hunter Biden's laptop from American voters.
00:00:55.440 Top executives meeting with FBI officials each week to assure the Marxist Dems' lies were undisturbed by truth,
00:01:03.800 and the corrupted Twitter officials obliged. And who else? We don't yet know.
00:01:09.920 But Elon Musk vows there's much more to come.
00:01:12.720 And so far, Musk has delivered on our hopes that he will indeed be a constant champion of free speech.
00:01:21.160 Cross your fingers.
00:01:22.580 To this point, we can say this.
00:01:25.160 What a firestorm Musk has ignited.
00:01:27.900 And the left will soon have to deal with truth and the consequences, which they've avoided for more than six years.
00:01:34.940 Revelations are arriving by the day, it seems.
00:01:38.320 Evidence that the Marxist Dems collaborated with the deep state, the Marxist global media, and corporate globalists.
00:01:45.820 A toxic brew, if ever there was one, concocted to first stop Donald Trump from being elected back in 2016.
00:01:53.740 Then to destroy his presidency with years of FBI investigations of the hoax Russian collusion frame-up and the special counsel investigation in two impeachments.
00:02:06.740 And now in the seventh year of the political persecution of Donald Trump, a second special counsel.
00:02:14.060 But now we know the effort to block Trump's re-election was a whole-of-government effort,
00:02:20.000 driven by the Marxist Dems and some of Trump's appointees.
00:02:23.740 And the deep state, of course.
00:02:26.380 Thanks to Elon Musk's revelations this week, we know that the FBI and Twitter top officials were meeting weekly as they suppressed the truth from the American people.
00:02:37.240 Our guest today is the New York Post's Miranda Devine, star columnist for the Post.
00:02:43.340 Great as always, Miranda, to have you with us.
00:02:45.460 Let's start with the idea that the world's richest man is the oligarch standard-bearer for free speech in America.
00:02:53.080 No matter his motives, he is, at least to me, the man of the hour in the fight for freedom.
00:02:59.540 Your thoughts, Miranda?
00:03:02.080 Yes, I'm a little loathe to sort of treat him like the messiah because I'm sure, you know,
00:03:08.340 he'll disappoint us like everybody else ends up doing when they're in that sort of position of power and incredibly wealthy.
00:03:15.300 There's a huge amount of pressure on him.
00:03:18.060 And, of course, he is exposed to China with his Tesla business and exposed to, you know,
00:03:24.360 the vagaries of government payments with his satellite business.
00:03:28.160 So I think there's only so much he can do to defy the establishment.
00:03:33.740 But so far, so good.
00:03:35.680 And I really hope that he does stick to his promise and do it fast to expose all the details of Twitter's massive censorship operation,
00:03:46.160 including their censorship of the New York Post over our Hunter Biden story before the 2020 election.
00:03:51.560 I think he needs to do it quickly, get it out there, because there are a lot of people, very powerful people,
00:03:59.800 with secrets they don't want exposed.
00:04:02.780 And they will continue to put pressure on him to stop him.
00:04:06.420 So every day that he doesn't expose it when he promised to, I think is bad news.
00:04:12.760 I couldn't agree with you more.
00:04:16.040 And the White House is not being in any way nuanced or subtle.
00:04:20.800 They're making absolute direct threats.
00:04:23.500 They're trying to intimidate him right now.
00:04:26.580 Tim Cook, one of the left's favorites, is not a man to in any way take for granted that he won't have a series of consequences awaiting Elon Musk.
00:04:40.380 But it's interesting that these two billionaires, one, the wealthiest by far, the wealthiest man in the world,
00:04:50.400 but both their companies are dependent on Chinese products, Chinese labor to one degree or another across all three of Musk's principal businesses.
00:05:02.460 This is a really a study in dependency on the part of American entrepreneurs and corporations and how it plays out.
00:05:12.760 I couldn't possibly tell you how it's going to wrap up.
00:05:16.260 Yeah, look, it really we're seeing just how enmeshed American economy and American elites are with China. 0.85
00:05:26.200 You know, there was talk during the Trump administration of decoupling, but, you know, we haven't even done that with antibiotics on the supply chain.
00:05:35.860 So I think it's, you know, it's just a Herculean task and there's certainly no desire to do it among top politicians and top business people in America.
00:05:49.140 But you see, yes, both Musk and Cook or Apple are exposed to China.
00:05:56.780 But in Apple's case, Tim Cook's case, they've gone one step further to actively assisting the Chinese Communist Party and cracking down on their people by, you know,
00:06:08.600 they issued that update where they removed a feature that was assisting the protesters and the airdrop feature.
00:06:17.480 And that's really terrifying.
00:06:19.800 And we've seen this before from Apple and and Google and big tech.
00:06:24.300 They're they're not American companies.
00:06:26.360 They're globalist companies.
00:06:27.820 They're as much informed by the values of Europeans and the Chinese as they are of America.
00:06:35.740 And they certainly don't respect the First Amendment like Americans should. 0.82
00:06:40.740 And we are really in an extraordinary position geopolitically, economically and are our so-called leaders.
00:06:50.900 And I'm speaking of both parties.
00:06:52.260 This is not a partisan defense or advocacy of any kind, because both parties are culpable.
00:07:00.600 We have given Wall Street and what used to be corporate America, but which is now global, corporate global, we've given them far too much power.
00:07:13.180 And we don't have a countervailing influence in this country right now to that awesome economic and political power, do we?
00:07:19.840 No. And you just reminded me of, I don't know if you remember, there was a Chinese professor who spoke just after the 2020 election.
00:07:29.960 He gave a lecture to do a big auditorium of young students in, I think it was in Beijing, maybe in Shanghai.
00:07:37.200 But he, anyway, was talking about America in the election, and he said the problem with Trump was that Wall Street could not fix Trump.
00:07:46.680 Our friends in Wall Street who always, through the decades, have assisted us, they could not fix Trump.
00:07:54.020 And that was why Trump had to go in 2020 by hook or by crook.
00:07:58.220 And every aspect of the establishment of the power elite in this country worked to ensure that happened, and they didn't care if it was by fair means or foul.
00:08:09.600 And it's absolutely true, because right now, as we're watching this economy start to right itself,
00:08:20.080 with throughout all of the cries about high inflation, all of the concerns about the dysfunction of both markets and volatility.
00:08:30.020 Meanwhile, Wall Street was steadfastly, constantly shipping hundreds of billions of dollars to China for investment there.
00:08:40.100 And people wonder why the market isn't quite as robust as it might be.
00:08:44.100 And that is one of the reasons. Capital is flowing out, not in, even though we have the most secure markets in the world.
00:08:53.460 It's going to be telling this next year in terms of what happens to this economy and China's.
00:09:00.020 Well, Lou, and also, this is the product of many decades of an influence operation deliberately managed by China to capture America's elites. 0.89
00:09:15.180 And Joe Biden was front and center of that.
00:09:18.280 He, back in 1979, was duchess on his first trip as a young senator, as the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee in the Senate.
00:09:30.020 He was duchess in China by then, you know, President Xi Jinping, I'm not pronouncing his name correctly.
00:09:39.900 And the top CCP officials, they took him to the equivalent, the Chinese equivalent of Martha's Vineyard for several days of full on brainwashing.
00:09:49.280 And he came back and he was so embarrassingly a cheerleader for China that the Weekly Standard, from memory, wrote some crushing headline about how embarrassing he is. 0.88
00:10:00.500 But he continued in that vein ever after and was always saying, oh, China's not going to, you know, eat our lunch, they're our friends, you know, that's ridiculous.
00:10:11.140 And in 2001, he was instrumental again as the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in getting the Senate to agree to allow China to join the World Trade Organization, which was endlessly destructive to American manufacturing, hollowed out the middle class of America.
00:10:33.160 And, you know, that was Joe Biden.
00:11:03.140 Going out of middle America to that decision.
00:11:07.740 In terms of giving them favored nation status and the entry into the World Trade Organization, I think you're exactly right.
00:11:18.760 Where they played dirty.
00:11:19.500 Where they played dirty from then on.
00:11:21.020 Oh, absolutely.
00:11:21.780 And never were punished.
00:11:22.960 And we still are losing an estimated half trillion dollars a year in intellectual capital and intellectual property and technology that they are stealing from us as if the FBI didn't exist.
00:11:37.600 They can put 40 FBI agents on a murder case in Idaho but can't find anyone to go out and enforce U.S. laws against sabotage, espionage, and spying.
00:11:54.060 It's ridiculous.
00:11:54.860 And six agents who went down and investigated the fake noose at some NASCAR driver's garage.
00:12:02.940 I want to turn to Hunter Biden, about whom you know much.
00:12:06.900 And his crime family.
00:12:12.220 Tell us your sense of where we are with young Biden, I guess we can call him that.
00:12:20.440 Well, I think, you know, you mentioned the Republicans and their investigations now that they have control of the House.
00:12:26.900 I do think that the investigation into what we can call the Hunter Biden laptop affair is important.
00:12:34.360 And the reason is that I think that both Jim Jordan and James Comer and, in fact, Kevin McCarthy have all made a point of saying that this is not about Hunter Biden.
00:12:47.220 It is about Joe Biden.
00:12:48.460 It is about his involvement in his family's overseas influence peddling scheme.
00:12:53.740 And also about whether or not that means that, thanks to the millions of dollars that flowed through to his family, that he is compromised by China, in particular, our greatest adversary.
00:13:06.820 And you could also say Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Kazakhstan.
00:13:09.980 I mean, money flowed through to Biden family coffers and their associates from those countries as well.
00:13:16.340 But what's most damaging to us is China. 1.00
00:13:20.340 And that's where we've seen the Biden administration really unwind a lot of the get tough on China policies of the Trump administration.
00:13:29.500 And and and that's concerning.
00:13:33.380 I'm not saying that we know that Joe Biden is compromised.
00:13:38.480 I'm not saying that he's a Manchurian candidate.
00:13:41.020 But what I'm saying is that the very existence of that money trail suggests that maybe he is compromised and that when he meets with President Xi, that he's not doing what he pretends he's doing afterwards.
00:13:57.400 What does never shows up in the official, you know, report, never a transcript of their meeting, which is, you know, that he should press Xi about the origins of COVID and other issues that we have problems with.
00:14:11.900 He never seems to do that.
00:14:13.140 He just spends an hour, sometimes two hours of these long, you know, rambling conversations with Xi.
00:14:19.980 God knows what Xi, who's a chemical engineer, makes of the big noting and the stories about corn pop and so on.
00:14:26.820 But he never manages to do anything that's in America's best interests.
00:14:32.440 And that that is something that is a pattern with Joe Biden since his vice presidential days.
00:14:39.380 He was dispatched off to Beijing in 2013 to try and stem China's aggression.
00:14:47.680 At that point, it wasn't completely unmanageable.
00:14:51.320 America could have threatened and coerced China into not militarizing those islands in the South China Sea to stop stealing America's intellectual property.
00:15:03.240 The power balance at that point wasn't so even.
00:15:07.600 But Joe Biden, he'd been dispatched by President Obama to be his man in China, to be his point man there.
00:15:15.920 And Joe Biden went to Beijing with Hunter Biden in tow on Air Force Two in 2013.
00:15:21.940 And he came away empty handed.
00:15:23.880 He got none of the things that he went there to extract from China.
00:15:29.020 But Hunter Biden walked away with a 10 percent share in an equity fund that was at last count, I think 2019, had two and a half billion dollars of funds under management.
00:15:42.320 So America lost, but the Biden family won.
00:15:45.800 And that has been the story of the Biden family throughout, certainly with Hunter Biden's leadership, I will say, with those enterprises.
00:15:58.200 Joe Biden parading Hunter around in our faces, the famous wave as they were off to vacation boarding Air Force One.
00:16:07.780 And this is this is a time, if ever there were, for a real investigation.
00:16:14.680 Miranda, I have to say to you, I really am.
00:16:18.080 I think James Comer is an outstanding congressman.
00:16:21.520 I think he has immense potential and an immense possibility as a leader in the Republican Party.
00:16:28.660 The same is true of Jim Jordan.
00:16:30.540 But what I fear is that with Kevin McCarthy, who himself has a number of questions about his commitment to conservative and mainstream traditional American values,
00:16:43.020 I think that if we could be looking at a repetition of Benghazi, we could see Jason Chaffetz.
00:16:49.840 We could be seeing Trey Gowdy as chairman rather than the men that I think they are.
00:16:56.180 What are your thoughts?
00:16:56.940 Yes, and I think that those misgivings have led to a group of Republicans pushing for Lee Zeldin, who did so well in New York in, you know, coming very close to winning the governorship.
00:17:14.340 But possibly even more important, at least for the country, was that because of the strength of his campaign, he managed to drag another four congressmen into Washington and flip the House.
00:17:32.320 So you can honestly say that without Lee Zeldin, Republicans would not have won the House, would not have won control there.
00:17:40.980 He single-handedly created a red wave in New York. 0.94
00:17:45.320 So I think that he is an underutilized resource and so do many others.
00:17:52.860 Now, there's talk of his also replacing Rona McDaniel, which I think is incredibly important.
00:18:00.520 You cannot preside over any losses as she has and keep on making the same mistakes and stick with the same job.
00:18:09.420 I just cannot believe that she'd be left in place.
00:18:12.480 But others have said that Kevin McCarthy, because the numbers are so tight, that he really, he needs 218 votes and that he may not get them.
00:18:25.240 And in that case, Lee Zeldin is eligible to be drafted.
00:18:30.280 He's also, I mean, you know, two-term congressman, only just vacated his post and just cleaned out his desk a couple of weeks ago, in fact.
00:18:39.800 And so he would be someone who would unify Republicans and he's shown himself to be, he's always underestimated, but he was in the 101st Airborne.
00:18:53.720 He's a pretty tough cookie and he's sort of a quiet achiever.
00:18:59.200 I think he could, he could really replace McCarthy and do a very good job.
00:19:03.780 I think that I would, I would vote for him over McCarthy in a minute.
00:19:10.100 What I would not do is put him in the RNC.
00:19:13.720 This is a man who has immense potential, as you say.
00:19:16.540 And I think we have to, before we canonize and remind everybody, he lost by seven points.
00:19:21.740 He did not come, that it can't be considered good enough for anyone to be lionized.
00:19:28.460 I don't care how dire the prospects are for the Republican Party.
00:19:32.160 That's my opinion, Miranda.
00:19:33.860 I happen to respect him.
00:19:35.880 It is New York.
00:19:37.000 And I respect him enough.
00:19:38.620 And I think the Republicans should respect him enough to put resources into New York and to go after New York and to win the governorship and to get behind him for what will be an arduous campaign.
00:19:51.240 The Republican Party doesn't invest in talent.
00:19:53.720 The Republican Party, the Democrats do, and they nurture and develop talent.
00:20:00.900 He is young enough that he could make all of the difference in the world in Washington from New York, in my opinion.
00:20:08.660 I mean, he was, remember, during the impeachment, he was one of the fire-breathing dragons who defended President Trump.
00:20:17.680 So, he's got a mild-mannered air about him, but he's a mongrel, really.
00:20:24.180 No, I agree.
00:20:25.680 Again, I respect him immensely.
00:20:27.740 But I don't want him in that position where he can't personally be a leader in the party.
00:20:33.520 Oh, I see.
00:20:34.620 Yes.
00:20:35.020 The RNC is a different job.
00:20:36.900 Whether we're talking about Michael Lindell, whoever it would be, fight for that job, bring real money and originality and a positive, affirmative, proven accomplishment and raising a lot of money because that's what it's going to take.
00:20:55.080 And we just, that person is not obvious to me right now.
00:20:59.980 And I think there should be a slam, slam, bang, dash, bash fight for that job instead of a sinecure, which is what it's become under McDaniel.
00:21:12.260 Unbelievable.
00:21:13.620 Yeah, and whose middle name I always remind people is Romney, and that's for a reason.
00:21:17.900 Yeah.
00:21:18.120 But I want to turn to, as we're wrapping up here, we've talked about Kevin McCarthy, the Republicans, the red wave.
00:21:29.600 You know, I think we have to say it out loud.
00:21:32.240 Donald Trump kept Ronald McDaniel in that job.
00:21:35.840 Yeah.
00:21:35.980 We have a president who is, right now, this is his time.
00:21:42.240 It should be his time.
00:21:43.840 2024.
00:21:45.000 He's making misstep after misstep.
00:21:47.020 He has not built an organization.
00:21:48.840 He's built great fundraising.
00:21:51.400 You get 18 emails from him a day asking for money if you happen to end up on their list.
00:21:57.680 This is atrocious, and I don't understand who's advising him or why.
00:22:04.120 And your thoughts on him and Ron DeSantis.
00:22:09.500 Yeah, look, I have to agree that I feel that with Donald Trump, there's an air of his time is gone.
00:22:20.960 His time has come and gone.
00:22:22.700 That he did an amazing job for the America First movement.
00:22:27.600 He inspired a generation to come after him.
00:22:31.860 And in a sense, I wish that he would sit back and become an elder statesman and the sort of father figure and patron of that movement and put his weight and his talents behind a younger person.
00:22:48.360 Because the fact is that he'll be a year older, I think, than Joe Biden was when he first took office if he wins in 2024.
00:22:57.860 That really means that he's a terribly healthy and fit guy.
00:23:01.960 You know, he looks even fitter now that he did before.
00:23:05.780 But it does mean he's probably only a one-termer.
00:23:08.960 And also, I think, after Joe Biden, there's just a mood in the country.
00:23:13.620 You know, after Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and this sort of gerontocracy in Washington.
00:23:20.860 And the fact that a younger generation was so damaged during COVID by the lockdown.
00:23:27.020 And there'll be a lot of those kids that were at school and were damaged so much and their education destroyed who will be coming on stream as new voters.
00:23:37.380 I really think that the Democrats, no matter what they say about Joe Biden, they're just protecting him.
00:23:43.840 He just doesn't want to be a lame duck.
00:23:46.340 They're going to run a youth ticket in 2024.
00:23:50.160 And I think that is also going to hurt Donald Trump.
00:23:53.020 So, and then, you know, as you say, I mean, maybe he'll get his act together with his organization.
00:23:59.180 But he's had a long time to regroup and create a winning combination for 2024.
00:24:08.040 And, you know, just that Kanye West-Nicks-Wentes dinner that he allowed to happen at Mar-a-Lago.
00:24:15.240 So, you know, it just looks to me like they were trolling him and they took advantage of his good nature.
00:24:21.280 I don't think people really understand that Donald Trump's actually a very nice and generous man in person.
00:24:27.840 He absolutely is.
00:24:28.680 And people take advantage of him and they did that in his presidency as well.
00:24:34.460 Throughout.
00:24:34.940 The president, he is, as you say, a generous man.
00:24:42.140 I think part of his tough facade is he tries to protect his inner nature perhaps too much.
00:24:48.280 And why he didn't fire everyone associated with putting those two racists, firing them immediately, to put them in front of Donald Trump, to permit him to even be in the same room with those people, let alone on his property, is outrageous.
00:25:09.700 It's just, but, you know, I can forgive once.
00:25:15.180 I can't forgive twice.
00:25:16.860 And this is, it just cannot happen again.
00:25:19.520 He's either got to build an organization and get serious and quit teasing.
00:25:25.240 He's got to do it.
00:25:26.500 And it won't, he's got to use every minute of every hour from now until Election Day 2024 if he means to be president of the United States again.
00:25:35.840 And there will be no nonsense.
00:25:37.480 It's going to be a battle for him no matter what, because Ron DeSantis and God knows who else will be trying to win that nomination.
00:25:48.740 You've been great with your time, and it's great of you to be with us here on The Great America Show.
00:25:54.480 We always give our guests the last word, as you well know.
00:25:58.620 And if I may, turn to you for your concluding thoughts on whatever and however many issues you would like to discuss.
00:26:05.920 Well, just to take on from Donald Trump, do you really think maybe his heart is not in it, that he feels that he ought to run because so many people, you know, are relying on him to sort of rescue the country?
00:26:20.960 And my other thought about the primary is I think it's good to have, you know, Republicans have a very deep bench.
00:26:30.680 And whether it's Ron DeSantis, who I think is terrific and a fighter in the mould of Donald Trump, or someone like Glenn Youngkin, who I'm not so keen on, but he does have that sort of blancmange personality that sort of reaches across the aisle and might drag a few sort of straggling Democrats and independents across, which, you know, you need to do.
00:26:51.940 You need to appeal to the centre or, you know, people we don't even know about.
00:26:57.140 I think there's a lot of talent there and I think it's good and healthy for democracy and healthy to temper these people for, you know, what's the toughest job in the world to have that competition there.
00:27:09.640 It's not, it doesn't, the presidency doesn't belong to any one person.
00:27:13.180 Nobody has the right to just demand that it be handed to them on a silver platter.
00:27:17.760 So, you know, if Donald Trump really is serious, really his heart is in it, he does want to do it, then great, you know, let the best man or woman win.
00:27:27.040 Exactly.
00:27:27.880 I couldn't agree with you more.
00:27:29.920 And I think you make a great, you put forward a great question.
00:27:34.420 Is his heart in it?
00:27:35.940 He obviously does not want to go out a loser.
00:27:38.340 He obviously is submerged in the political persecution that has persisted since 2016.
00:27:47.900 The man is in his seventh year of political persecution without lit up.
00:27:53.240 And not one champion, not one voice has risen in the leadership of the Republican Party to defend him and demand that this ignorance stop.
00:28:01.960 I think that speaks so poorly of this Republican Party.
00:28:06.440 Because you know well that Democrats would have united behind any of their standard bearers to make certain that this kind of nonsense.
00:28:15.380 And it's, there's nothing question, there's no question about it.
00:28:20.000 It is absolutely flagrant intimidation and retribution.
00:28:25.080 And the only wrongdoing that's been exposed, and that's now the seventh year of that political persecution, is wrongdoing by the Department of Justice, by FBI agents, by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign.
00:28:39.100 I mean, who, why can't this, let me ask you one last question.
00:28:45.860 Why, in your opinion, has there been no, no coalescing around the fact that this is an innocent man has been persecuted by the power structure of the United States, whether it's Wall Street or globalist American corporations.
00:29:03.100 And now another special counsel.
00:29:07.900 Look, I really do think it's not just cowardice on the Republican side.
00:29:12.780 It's much easier for Democrats to defend and coalesce around one of their own because they have the media on side.
00:29:20.240 So, you know, the Democratic narratives are the ones that are pushed by the elite media, the New York Times, the Washington Post, CBS, NBC, you know, wraparound coverage all the time.
00:29:34.820 They colluded with the Democrats to destroy and damage and smear Donald Trump and bring down those around him to cripple his administration.
00:29:45.400 And it's very difficult to go against the media.
00:29:49.380 You know, you, you, if, if the media doesn't like you as a politician, you're pretty much sunk because they will, they will dig up dirt about you.
00:29:58.860 The, the, the Democrat party or the left will have war rooms.
00:30:03.260 You're seeing this right now.
00:30:04.540 There are three war rooms, NBC just reported on tens of millions of dollars have gone into them on the Democratic side, on the left.
00:30:13.540 And they are all of them looking at defending Joe Biden against Republicans with these upcoming investigations into Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:30:22.500 And, and, and they're, they're doing opposition research on the Republican House members on their, on the Republican members of Congress.
00:30:32.580 They are going to dig into every aspect of their life, their family's lives.
00:30:37.560 And those stories, those smears will then be published readily in the New York Times on the front page.
00:30:43.860 Those people's, their lives, their, the schools where their children go, you know, their communities.
00:30:49.840 It doesn't matter how innocent you are when, when, when the media and those very clever journalists that the New York Times frame the story to frame you, everyone, your, your reputation is damaged.
00:31:03.800 Very few people that can withstand that kind of reputational attack.
00:31:09.800 Miranda, as always, you're terrific.
00:31:11.940 We thank you for being with us and sharing your thinking.
00:31:14.660 Look forward to the next time.
00:31:16.300 Thank you so much.
00:31:17.220 God bless you.
00:31:18.040 Terrific.
00:31:18.340 Thank you so much, Lou.
00:31:21.000 Miranda Devine is an incredible economist and always a delight to have her with us.
00:31:26.600 Tomorrow here, our guest will be Congressman Matt Gaetz.
00:31:30.300 Congressman Gaetz is among those Republican congressmen who are refusing to support Kevin McCarthy to be the next Speaker of the House of Representatives.
00:31:40.860 Congressman Matt Gaetz, our guest here tomorrow.
00:31:44.220 Till then, thanks for being with us.
00:31:46.200 God bless you, and may God bless America.