As we head into flu season and what has been an unending season of COVID, there is considerable confusion still about it all, and I m in no way qualified to tell anybody what to do when it comes to medicine of any kind.
00:00:00.260Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs and delighted to have you with us.
00:00:06.440As we head into flu season and what has been an unending season of COVID, there's considerable confusion still about it all, and I'm going to stick to politics and economics.
00:00:16.860I'm in no way qualified to tell anybody what to do when it comes to medicine of any kind.
00:00:22.280So here's what my wife and I've done. We took the flu shot a couple of weeks ago and still haven't made up our minds about the COVID vaccine.
00:00:31.380And even some doctors, I understand, are on the sidelines, at least to this point.
00:00:36.260Deb and I aren't fence-sitters about much of anything, so we'll pretty much do what our family doctor ultimately tells us to do.
00:00:43.360We're a little older, and we've gotten here with God's blessings and listening to our doctors, so there you have it.
00:00:49.180For younger folks, I do know this is a much tougher choice for you all, and our government isn't being real helpful about a lot of areas, and vaccines are one of those.
00:00:59.300And as always, Joe Biden is spreading confusion and consternation of his own special brand, declaring the COVID pandemic is over.
00:01:08.920Ended, funny. But wait, didn't he already do that? Well, yes, he did.
00:01:13.900So what's the deal? He still gets to keep all those magic superpowers that he has because of the COVID national emergency,
00:01:21.760so I don't think he'll relinquish those powers until maybe after the midterm elections.
00:02:34.740And, you know, fentanyl is affecting our communities, not just in the cities, but it's going to the suburbs and rural areas.
00:02:40.900And, you know, Lou, I think how we tackle the fentanyl issue, almost all of the fentanyl is coming from one area, which is our border.
00:02:50.440And I was just down in Yuma the other week, actually.
00:02:53.880And what you're seeing is our border is just absolutely not secure.
00:02:57.580So the fentanyl, what's really interesting is, you know, we're talking about a lot of these illegal immigrants who are coming across, and they're being processed by Border Patrol, and they're being put on buses.
00:03:06.580And most of those illegal immigrants, to be honest, they're just, you know, they're coming from Russia, China, India.
00:03:11.520I mean, I witnessed every sort of ethnicity.
00:03:13.440But what we're not talking about is that since so much of our resources is focused on processing those illegal immigrants, the drug cartels are now, what they're doing is they use them as a distraction to put the fentanyl, walk them across the desert, because so much of our resources is focused on these illegal immigrants who are just waiting to be picked up by Border Patrol.
00:03:34.920So that's where most of this fentanyl is coming from.
00:03:37.940And obviously, it's manufactured in China.
00:03:41.200I mean, fentanyl is plaguing our schools.
00:03:43.840I mean, if you're looking at the candy-colored fentanyl that is now coming in time for Halloween, they're really – it's quite shocking how quickly this has become a plague in our communities.
00:03:54.880As a prosecutor, you know, a few years ago, it was methamphetamine.
00:05:40.540I don't know if you heard about the toddler death.
00:05:42.640I think that there was a toddler death in another state where they simply touched some fentanyl that was in the back seat of the nanny, and the child died.
00:05:53.760And if you're looking at – the drug cartels are making a lot of money off of this.
00:05:57.420The pills used to cost $20, a fentanyl pill, and now it's gone down to $2 a pill.
00:06:04.040And the reason why is because, I mean, they just have manufactured fentanyl pills like never before, and they're trying to get everybody addicted to it.
00:06:11.720So this is where we have to start looking at fighting back this fentanyl crisis, but it really starts with securing our southern border.
00:06:19.120And that's why it's such a top issue for myself and future Governor Kerry Lake.
00:06:23.340Well, a present governor, Greg Abbott, has declared the Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations.
00:06:33.700He's ordered the Texas Department of Public Safety to engage now.
00:06:37.940And I don't understand why Arizona hasn't done the same thing.
00:06:41.880I don't understand why there's not a national discussion about this.
00:06:45.280And I sure don't understand why the Department of Homeland Security, Customs, Border Protection, and all of the other agencies within these departments of this Marxist, dim-driven administration and Democrat Party aren't reacting better.
00:07:02.300And why the Republicans aren't, you know, nailing their hides to the wall on it.
00:07:08.760And it's an issue that unites every single American.
00:07:11.860So I applaud Governor Abbott for declaring them terrorist organizations.
00:07:15.780That's been a central theme of my campaign for a while.
00:07:18.840When I'm attorney general, I'm going to work with the legislature to declare the drug cartels as terrorist organizations.
00:07:24.320And with that designation, Lou, we will have enhanced sentencings on them.
00:07:27.820We will be able to seize their assets.
00:07:29.660So, you know, there's actually some teeth to it.
00:07:32.100And Arizona has that ability to do that because under current law, we use the U.S. Department of State's definition of terrorist organizations.
00:07:38.860And as you and I both know that it's been politicized.
00:07:43.180So this is where Arizona, we have to get a lot tougher with the drug cartels because they're sophisticated operations.
00:07:48.840The drug cartels, they're the ones profiting off of not just putting the fentanyl into our country, but they are making a lot of money by smuggling illegal immigrants and making sure that they have passage to come to the United States.
00:08:00.680I mean, they're taking $10,000, $20,000, $30,000, depending on the country of origin.
00:08:04.820So it's a very sophisticated machine that they've got going.
00:08:08.740And they have, I mean, they have a balance sheet that's probably bigger than most states and most countries.
00:08:13.380So this is where, you know, we have to start working with our law enforcement officers.
00:08:18.640You know, the federal government is not here to help.
00:08:20.660But what I'm looking forward to doing is working with Governor Greg Abbott, Ron DeSantis in Florida as well, and, you know, some of these other border states or other Republicans, states who actually care about what's going down our southern border.
00:08:32.220Because we ultimately know that what happens in Arizona and Texas doesn't just stay in Arizona and Texas.
00:08:37.940It goes all across and affects every single other state.
00:08:41.040Every state is a border state right now.
00:08:42.680So I applaud Governor Abbott's declaration of the cartels as terrorist organizations.
00:08:47.700That's something I will work on, and I will get done when I'm attorney general.
00:08:51.920And why aren't all four states doing that?
00:09:18.160Is there a hesitation because of the election and you don't know exactly, and I'm not talking about you, but the Republicans don't quite know how the electorate will triangulate these very difficult, hardcore issues?
00:09:32.160I think it actually, from all the polling we suggest, classifying the cartels as terrorist organizations is such a winning issue, Lou.
00:09:40.440Nobody has any real sympathy with the cartels.
00:09:44.700I think what certain people, you know, in the Republican Party and the Democrats, they don't want to anger Mexico, for instance.
00:09:52.160They don't want to anger some business interests down there.
00:09:54.380And I think that's the hesitation, possibly.
00:09:56.960But, I mean, if you look at California and New Mexico, I mean, they are so, they don't even want to acknowledge that there's a border.
00:10:05.300So I think that's the hesitation is they don't want to anger, you know, one of the number one trading partners within some of these states, which is Mexico.
00:10:11.780But, you know, ultimately, when you have deaths that are occurring all across our state, it's my job as Attorney General to uphold the rule of law, to uphold the Constitution, but to ensure the safety of Arizonans.
00:10:22.840And that's why, you know, I won my primary.
00:10:25.800I seem to have stunned so many people, Lou, and I remember talking to you, you know, before I won it.
00:10:29.780But, you know, that's what's unique about me.
00:10:31.540I'm not beholden to any special interest or, you know, anybody.
00:10:34.720I'm just beholden to the Constitution of the United States and Arizona and the people of Arizona.
00:10:38.600So, you know, I can't say why they haven't done it, but I know that when I'm in office, I will be a lot more aggressive in tackling this issue.
00:10:46.100Well, good for you, and it can't happen.
00:10:49.300And I know you'll agree with this statement.
00:10:57.300And, by the way, if we have people in this country who continue to put business interests ahead of the national interest, business interests ahead of our middle class and the health and welfare and well-being of American citizens, we're doomed.
00:11:14.840This has to be the end of all of this nonsense on the part of the Democrats.
00:11:20.940And I don't understand, even I'm not asking you to speak for the entire Republican Party, but what I don't understand is why the Republicans are not hammering Joe Biden for his alignment with both the Chinese and the government of Mexico and the drug cartels, because he has turned that border.
00:11:44.340I think you, I'd like to know whether you agree, he has turned the U.S. border with Mexico over to the Mexican drug cartels, has he not?
00:11:54.180And, Lou, when I was down there last week in Yuma, I mean, there's literally government documents that are printed by Mexico that tells illegal immigrants how to get into the United States.
00:13:09.960But right now, what we're witnessing is only about 10% of those who are coming into our country are actually being returned.
00:13:16.700So, you're having, if you have 240,000 border crossers, I mean, you're keeping a vast majority of them, over 200,000, who are remaining in the country, being put on buses, being put on planes, and being put on trains, and spread throughout the United States.
00:13:30.300And then the media hysteria when you saw that a few dozen of them went to Martha's Vineyard.
00:13:36.820They just don't want it to happen in their backyard because for them, for the elites and the media, it's out of sight, out of mind.
00:13:43.320But, you know, Americans are going to – I think this election is going to shock the hell out of the media because I don't think they understand that how fed up the American people are to being gaslit right now about that we have a secure border, which we do not.
00:13:56.100And this contributes to the fentanyl crisis and so many of the other issues.
00:14:00.440I mean, look at the terrorist watch list.
00:14:02.040How many border crossers have been on the terrorist watch list?
00:14:04.720The entire world recognizes that there's a national security vulnerability, and they're going to take advantage of it, Lou.
00:14:12.360I want to ask you a question of proximity because you were there in the great state of Arizona, the Arizona Republic, the, what would we say, four major television markets.
00:14:26.100How – are they pro-illegal immigration or pro-amnesty, or are they pro-border security for the state of Arizona?
00:14:34.280The Arizona Republic is a garbage newspaper out here, and all they do is spend attacks on me and Carrie Lake and Mark Fincham, Blake Masters.
00:14:46.040All they're doing is trying – they're basically the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.
00:14:50.340And they – actually, at one point, they refused to publish any statements by me or Carrie if we talked about the border being an invasion.
00:14:58.060I mean, they are so far removed from reality, Lou, that they – you know, this is where journalists have such an important role to play.
00:15:05.200I mean, they really determine so much of how the public thinks because they put out there what they want the people to know.
00:15:12.180And this is where I've said they are the propaganda arm of the left, and it's clear as day.
00:15:17.120It's – you know, they refuse to cover the stories accurately.
00:15:22.500But, you know, the newspapers and the TV stations out in Yuma, they do a pretty good job, actually, and it's because they have to live with it.
00:15:29.240The ones up in the Arizona Republic, they're in Phoenix.
00:15:33.040And, you know, they buy the entire – the D.C. elites narrative that there's no crisis.
00:15:37.120But, I mean, I'm telling you, anybody who goes to the border and spends any time down there, when you see it, it is – I walk behind the border fence.
00:15:48.720It's completely open, and the federal government is doing this intentionally.
00:15:53.300And I think that's something we have to remember, that this didn't come out of nowhere.
00:15:56.640Under President Trump, I mean, the border crossers were limited to about 20,000 or 30,000 a month, and now it's ballooned to 10 times that number.
00:18:10.520It's going to take – it got us decades to get us in this mess, and I think it's going to take us some time to get us out of it.
00:18:15.140But we really got to start by having good people in office, and that's why I'm so excited to be working with, you know, future Governor Kerry Lake and future U.S. Senator Blake Masters because we need to have some good representation in D.C.
00:18:27.800But, again, I think the states are the ones who have the most power, and I think that's why the media is so concerned about Kerry and myself.
00:18:35.600I think they recognize that, you know, we're not playing by the same old rules that have been operating.
00:18:43.880Well, if there's a county – and there are many counties across this country that need to be investigated for their electoral irregularities and anomalies, I'll put it that way.
00:18:54.660It certainly is Maricopa County, and Pinal County has a lot of questions as well.
00:19:02.400But to that end, how confident are you in a secure election, an honest election, and the capacity of the Republicans and good Arizona citizens to assure that there is no rigging here as there obviously was in 2020?
00:19:21.820Right, and I think it's a big concern of mine because you're right.
00:19:28.420I mean, it is unacceptable, Lou, that they ran out of Republican ballots, right?
00:19:33.240And what's worse, I don't know if you saw before that, they actually were sending ballots without the correct city municipality elections on them.
00:19:41.920So it was such a disaster, Lou, that I think for the media and the Democrats to constantly gaslight us by saying that we have the most safe and secure elections, it's a complete lie.
00:19:53.620I mean, if you look at – I mean, this has been going on for so long.
00:19:56.380Look at Florida versus the 2000 election with Bush v. Gore, right?
00:20:00.020But suddenly now, you know, it's so offensive.
00:20:02.740My opponent says I'm a threat to democracy.
00:20:05.180You know, this is – my opponent is a professor.
00:20:27.480I mean, this election, I think, is so critical because in order to prevent some of the fraud, I think we need to overwhelm it.
00:20:34.080And I think we need to have as much Republicans get out the vote.
00:20:37.300So, you know, no matter the – no matter the irregularities, at least it's overwhelmed by Republican support.
00:20:42.700And I think right now, independents, Republicans, and even some Democrats are absolutely fed up with these Democratic policies because we've seen what they've done, Lou.
00:20:52.760California is the epitome of a Democratic policies.
00:20:56.140And look at San Francisco, Los Angeles, or go to Chicago and New York.
00:21:00.620When you end cash bail, when you say that homeless people can sleep on the streets and they can defecate on the streets and there can be needles on our streets and that we're going to force hotels to have their vacant rooms house homeless people.
00:21:14.300They have rolling energy blackouts in California right now.
00:21:17.160This is third-world country stuff, and it's all due to a result of these Democratic socialist policies.
00:21:22.740So, you know, it's clear as day, and I think this is why – I mean, Lou, the polling that we're looking at is we're winning – we're going to – I think we're going to have the chance to win Hispanic voters.
00:21:33.540And I don't know if you saw an article in the Atlantic Journal-Constitution, but they were talking about Stacey Abrams is having a hard time with black voters in Georgia.
00:21:41.000I mean, it's interesting how the America First movement, it really is about America.
00:21:47.300We don't care where you came from, what ethnicity you are, or what social status you have, but we're going to put the American people first, and I think everyone is recognizing that right now.
00:21:57.900You know, people forget that Donald Trump nationwide won almost 40 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2020 and still managed somehow to have a deficit with Joe Biden.
00:22:10.400He also had better numbers with African Americans.
00:22:15.180And there is sort of – to me, it's sort of a peculiar atmospheric around these issues because, you know, African Americans, black people, they want safety.
00:22:37.620These Marxists have taken the Democratic Party to a place I don't think they'll ever recover from.
00:22:43.520But at the same time, the Republican Party will, as you are absolutely advocating, will have to be vigilant and energetic on November 8th.
00:22:53.360Do you feel that you've got enough poll workers, poll watchers, attorneys out there trained, ready to go?
00:22:58.460I think Chairwoman Kelly Ward has been doing a fantastic job at training these poll workers and poll observers.
00:23:05.480So, you know, I think right now we're in a very good position, and even in the primary, we were in a much better position.
00:23:11.2202020, we were caught off guard, but we're never going to allow that to happen again, Lou.
00:23:14.760And, you know, I'm glad you're talking about so much of these issues because, you know, this is a cultural war that we're fighting right now, Lou.
00:23:21.400And I think people recognize how damaging, you know, you're right, these Marxists, these socialists, the Democrats have gone so far left that they've even lost people like Bill Maher.
00:23:31.080I mean, Bill Maher has basically become red-pilled, and this is where I'm optimistic because ultimately the Republican message is about common sense, about American strength, and the rule of law.
00:23:42.600And all the Democrats want to talk about is environmentalism, climate change, reproductive rights, and voting access.
00:23:49.060But this is – they're so far removed from reality.
00:23:53.560You know, they don't want to defund the police movement.
00:23:55.880You know, the ones who are advocating that are usually the ones in the universities, it's usually these 50-year-old white women professors, those are the ones who are advocating for defunding the police.
00:24:04.880Like, my opponent surrounds herself with proponents of that.
00:24:08.620So, you know, the one – this is why Hispanics and blacks, they've actually come out for Trump and for Republicans this election cycle is because they're the ones being hurt the most by these Democratic policies.
00:24:20.820And they're the ones who want opportunity, but in order to have opportunity and prosperity, we first need security, and that's exactly what I intend to do as Attorney General Liu.
00:24:29.800But, you know, I need all the help we can get, and, you know, I can't do it alone.
00:24:34.580That's why I'm excited that we're going to have a really good legislature hopefully next year, along with a great governor and a good U.S. senator, because we have to tackle all these issues together.
00:24:43.600And, you know, we've got to secure elections, and that's why we need Mark Finchman there, especially because he's running up against literally the election official who got fired from his last job in Maricopa County.
00:24:55.360So, you know, this is a do-or-die election.
00:24:58.260I think every one of us recognizes that right now.
00:25:00.140And it does seem, as you advocate for these fundamental values, American values and state values, the interest of Arizona and the nation, it seems to me from, you know, admittedly from afar,
00:25:17.180it seems to me that if there is any American with a triple-digit IQ, has a love of this country and is principled, that they will be voting Republican because no one in their right mind could put these Marxist Dems in control for another minute.