The Great America Show - April 26, 2022


CHINA’S WATCHING UKRAINE AS A MODEL TO INVADE TAIWAN

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AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS, END MASSIVE CORRUPTION OR LOSE THE REPUBLIC THE 2020 ELECTION WAS THE BIGGEST CRIME IN HISTORY

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Biden and his Marxist masters want to create a massive flood of millions more illegal immigrants. They brought in an astounding 2 million people in the first year of the Biden presidency, and released 1.6 million of them into cities all over the country, the largest number of illegals crossing our border in history. Now emboldened and all but unchecked, this month the Biden plan is to bring in even more illegals.

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00:00:00.120 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is the Great America Show, and we're delighted you're with us in the fight against totalitarians, whether abroad or right here in America.
00:00:12.100 They're the enemies of peace, freedom, and this great nation of ours, where we celebrate each day our freedoms, the American way, and truth and justice for all.
00:00:22.340 And while we do our celebrating of America, the Marxist Dems are working hard to destroy this great nation that was once ours, American citizens welcoming legal immigrants, happy and grateful and productive, only a handful of whom chose not to assimilate within a generation or two.
00:00:42.600 And as best we can speculate, President Biden and his Marxist puppet masters mean to create a massive flood of millions more illegal immigrants than they brought in in the first year of the Biden presidency.
00:00:57.160 They brought in an astounding 2 million people, released 1.6 million of those illegals into cities all over the country, the largest number of illegals crossing our border in history.
00:01:11.120 Now emboldened and all but unchecked, this month, the Biden plan is to bring in even more illegals, about 5,000 to 600,000 illegals a month, which would mean another 5 to 7 million over the next year.
00:01:27.240 That's why Biden's masters want him to drop Title 42, which gives Customs and Border Patrol the authority to send illegals back to Mexico or wherever their home country is to prevent contagious diseases from entering the country before illegals can apply for refugee status.
00:01:47.040 In other words, in other words, Biden puppet masters are not only further opening our borders to an ever larger tsunami of illegals that will be an utter catastrophe for America,
00:01:58.660 it also leaves our border patrol helpless to stop the introduction of highly transmissible, dangerous diseases from anywhere in the world.
00:02:08.760 And as a footnote in all this, aside from the never-before numbers of illegals, don't you find it more than curious that no one, and I mean no one, is talking about a travel ban on China,
00:02:22.760 even though China is locking down some of their largest cities to stop a new and obviously highly transmissible variant of the original Wuhan virus.
00:02:33.820 There's a lot going on here, and none of it good for America or Americans, and no one, and I mean, again, no one, is demanding to know where the Biden regime is placing all of those illegals
00:02:48.080 who are being flown to all sorts of places all over the country.
00:02:52.880 Why not?
00:02:54.460 Why isn't there a transparent and fully complete record of who has been taken where, at what expense to the taxpayer,
00:03:02.160 and how much money is the Biden regime giving these people, and on what legal authority?
00:03:09.140 We've known for years the Marxist left is in league with corporate globalist elites and the transnational narco cartels,
00:03:16.980 and they're behind most of the human smuggling, sex, and drug trafficking across our Mexican border.
00:03:22.720 And as of this moment, the globalist elites, the Marxist left, and the transnational cartels
00:03:29.120 are without challenge, obstruction, or hindrance of any kind, and certainly without explanation, apology, or shame,
00:03:38.180 this evil coalition is pulling off the biggest crime of the century.
00:03:42.700 And this has been a big century for crime so far.
00:03:46.860 The motivation of this coalition of evil hasn't changed.
00:03:51.680 The corporalist elites want illegals for labor.
00:03:54.660 The Marxist Dems want them for votes.
00:03:57.360 And the cartels for ever-larger markets for their drugs and human smuggling.
00:04:03.020 The question persists.
00:04:04.480 What has Biden done with all those illegals?
00:04:07.800 Where will the millions to come this year be set?
00:04:11.260 And why won't anyone tell us where they've been distributed, placed, and for what purpose?
00:04:16.320 Are they being sent where the left needs their votes this fall?
00:04:20.320 Perhaps waiting until 2024.
00:04:23.100 Are they being sent where corporatists need their labor? 0.78
00:04:26.380 Domiciled and vast housing projects near factories are placed in labor camps,
00:04:31.300 near grain fields and produce fields,
00:04:34.260 in cities for work, in construction, and trades.
00:04:38.200 Maybe all of those reasons.
00:04:39.720 We don't know.
00:04:40.940 This is simply the quietest invasion in world history.
00:04:44.240 And as the Marxist Dems would put it, one of the largest migrations ever.
00:04:49.700 And it's more than illegal.
00:04:51.880 It's downright evil.
00:04:53.580 And our government is working against us, against the United States.
00:04:58.560 That much, I'm sure of.
00:05:00.880 How about you?
00:05:02.080 What do you think?
00:05:03.600 Let us know.
00:05:04.960 Other invasions are on the minds of world leaders today.
00:05:07.960 What will Putin do next in Ukraine, in Moldova?
00:05:12.380 And what is Xi Jinping up to as the world watches the grim Russian war against Ukraine?
00:05:19.100 Will President Xi create a two-front war for the United States by invading Taiwan?
00:05:24.780 What's the likelihood of a wider and perhaps nuclear war?
00:05:29.080 With us is one of the country's foremost experts on Asia, communist China, and its designs on world dominion, 0.97
00:05:37.780 Russia's unlimited strategic partner, China.
00:05:41.580 Our guest is Gordon Chang, attorney, author, and great American.
00:05:47.080 Gordon, it's always great to have you here on the Great America Show.
00:05:51.460 Just delighted to have you.
00:05:52.780 I want to turn first, of course, to one of our mutually favorite subjects, and that is China.
00:05:59.080 This outbreak in China's largest city, in Shanghai, and the problem that is obviously getting worse in China,
00:06:10.040 that is, of course, the COVID virus.
00:06:13.400 What is going on?
00:06:15.040 Well, Omicron BA2, the sub-variant that is ripping through Shanghai and China in general,
00:06:23.100 Beijing has no defense against it.
00:06:25.220 It believes that isolation is the only tactic.
00:06:27.860 And so, therefore, it has imposed the most draconian lockdowns on the people in Shanghai.
00:06:34.020 Originally, this was supposed to be temporary just for testing purposes.
00:06:37.880 Now they've extended it.
00:06:39.700 And we are seeing the effects of totalitarianism in China.
00:06:44.520 And by the way, Liu, this is having an effect that Americans will feel in about a month because it is severely disrupting supply chains.
00:06:52.980 For instance, cargo volume through the Shanghai port, the world's largest, down 40% last week, probably down more this week.
00:07:01.660 Air traffic, cargo through Pudong Airport, that's down 97%.
00:07:07.980 Wow.
00:07:09.640 And this Omicron BA2 has now started to affect Guangzhou, the capital of Guangdong province, which is China's factory floor.
00:07:21.180 Omicron went through Guangdong earlier when it closed down the Shenzhen, which is an important tech hub also in Guangdong province.
00:07:29.700 But now it's reached the capital there.
00:07:32.940 And, Liu, this means that China is basically sawed off from the rest of the world.
00:07:38.960 Sawed off from the rest of the world.
00:07:40.820 And what is stunning is I listen to this.
00:07:44.460 Gordon, this is BA2.
00:07:47.100 This is supposed to be a viciously transmissible virus, but a mild to almost non-event in terms of symptoms.
00:07:58.120 What is the disconnect here between the Western perception and the experience in China?
00:08:04.080 That's the same in China, Liu.
00:08:06.380 So, for instance, over recent days, China's been reporting about 25,000 cases of Omicron,
00:08:12.960 but only about 1,100 or so are symptomatic.
00:08:17.720 But nonetheless, Beijing takes what they call their zero COVID policy.
00:08:23.840 And by zero COVID, they mean they are not going to permit any transfer of the disease.
00:08:29.440 So, people are confined to their homes.
00:08:33.300 If they get COVID, they can't quarantine at home.
00:08:35.940 They have to go to these massive facilities.
00:08:38.360 People are tested almost daily.
00:08:40.300 And the things that Beijing is doing, by the way, these things are actually spreading the disease.
00:08:46.580 So, for instance, people have to line up for COVID tests periodically.
00:08:50.760 And people just transmit the disease there.
00:08:53.560 They're transmitting the disease in these quarantine facilities,
00:08:56.820 because a lot of people who are quarantined are actually COVID negative.
00:09:01.220 This makes no sense from any perspective, except from the perspective of one person.
00:09:07.780 1.41 billion Chinese people don't count, but it does help one guy, and that is Xi Jinping, the Chinese ruler.
00:09:16.920 He is considered to be the author of the zero COVID policy.
00:09:21.020 He believes that any criticism of this policy and any deviation from it will undermine his chances to get a precedent-breaking third term as general secretary of the Communist Party.
00:09:30.660 So, this may make sense for China's ruler, but not for anybody else.
00:09:37.440 A number of questions flow from what you've just said.
00:09:40.660 One is, many people will be surprised to hear from you, Gordon, that Xi Jinping has some opportunity for him not to be a coronated dictator for life this fall.
00:09:57.020 Well, because most people think that's already a done deal.
00:10:01.920 So, how tenuous is his position, if at all?
00:10:07.780 If we were to go back a year, maybe 18 months, it was a done deal.
00:10:13.560 Remember, Xi Jinping, by grabbing power from everybody else, made himself totally accountable.
00:10:19.800 So, when things were going China's way, Xi Jinping got all the credit.
00:10:25.460 But recently, things have not been going the way of Beijing, and so his enemies have come out of the woodwork.
00:10:32.660 There are evidence of intense infighting at the top of the Communist Party.
00:10:38.900 Xi Jinping probably will get his third term in October or November.
00:10:44.180 That's when the Communist Party, if the schedule holds, if the schedule holds, will hold its 20th National Congress.
00:10:53.000 But I think that this is not a near certainty or done deal, as it once was.
00:10:59.300 As I said, he probably will get it, but there's a lot that can happen between now and then.
00:11:05.100 There are a lot of things that are really causing heartburn at the top of the Communist Party, COVID being only one of them.
00:11:12.240 But COVID right now, first, there's this reflex.
00:11:17.040 One is, here comes another disease, but it's actually been here already.
00:11:22.620 Here comes another disease from China. 1.00
00:11:25.500 This disease, I assume that part of the reason for the lockdown is they're afraid about the rate of mutation in this variant.
00:11:36.460 Is that part of the case?
00:11:38.260 It is part of the case.
00:11:39.640 There is, and this will get a little controversial, but China has really only two vaccines, one made by Sinovac and the other by Sinopharm.
00:11:51.120 There are a few others, but Beijing doesn't administer them.
00:11:54.220 Now, these two vaccines are barely effective against COVID-19 in general, but they are not effective at all against BA2.
00:12:04.080 And that means that basically you have people who have been vaccinated, but it's not helping them.
00:12:12.100 And China has not, because of political reasons, I believe, has not imported either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.
00:12:20.720 And it has not, for the most part, imported foreign therapeutics.
00:12:27.560 This is political because they cannot be embarrassed by not being able to produce an effective vaccine.
00:12:33.440 So the Chinese people are relatively defenseless against this.
00:12:37.940 Now, as you point out, Omicron BA2, not very virulent, but it is highly transmissible.
00:12:45.140 And this plays into something else, Lou, and that is in the early part of the pandemic, Beijing was using its low reported case and in death numbers to say that the Communist Party form of governance was superior because we were having a lot more cases and deaths.
00:13:03.040 But now, when the U.S. has more or less recovered from this, at least for the meantime, we look pretty good and China looks pretty bad. 0.90
00:13:13.580 And this goes to the Communist Party legitimacy.
00:13:16.320 This goes to their whole attack on American democracy.
00:13:19.320 So this is not just a question of the Chinese people getting sick or being confined to their homes.
00:13:24.680 This is a question in the minds of many Communist Party leaders of the survival of their ruling organization.
00:13:31.580 I would also like to then now turn to some other sources of agitation, agita, and heartburn for Xi Jinping.
00:13:43.400 One of them certainly must be his new best strategic partner, Vladimir Putin, who is clearly revealing to the world that Russia is a Potemkin village. 0.96
00:13:55.420 Nuclear arm, nuclear arm, maybe, but otherwise an incompetent military that we thought was superior, advanced, and the second most powerful in the world.
00:14:09.540 Is that one source of agitation for Xi Jinping?
00:14:14.860 Yes, it is.
00:14:15.840 Because Xi has been identified with this full support of Vladimir Putin.
00:14:21.900 Now, we know that there are many officials in China who are very skeptical and are frustrated and do not like being on the side of the world's villain.
00:14:34.020 But they don't count Liu, because in China's political system, it's been Xi Jinping.
00:14:38.860 So Xi's fortunes have risen and fallen with the advances and retreat of the Russian army.
00:14:45.060 And what we are seeing now is that China is backing away in some measures from support of Putin, not because Xi Jinping wants to, but because the U.S. is putting pressure on him.
00:14:58.520 But this is where it gets really interesting.
00:15:03.040 China then has supplied Serbia, a close friend of Russia, with anti-aircraft missiles and perhaps other equipment.
00:15:10.980 This was done in the last week, and it is likely, certainly possible, but I believe likely, that this equipment will show up on the Ukraine battlefield in the hands of the Russian army.
00:15:25.100 If that's the case, then the Biden administration has got to sanction China.
00:15:29.540 They should have been doing it already for a number of reasons, but clearly this passes a red line that the Biden team has established.
00:15:37.300 So Xi Jinping is doing all he can to support Putin.
00:15:42.760 And this is, again, another one of those things that a lot of people in Beijing are not happy with.
00:15:48.540 Not happy with.
00:15:49.140 I can't imagine how unhappy they'll be if indeed it were to draw NATO into a full-fledged response to Russia.
00:15:59.180 He has his military is on display now for all the world to watch.
00:16:03.980 And it is a far weaker organization than anyone ever dreamed.
00:16:09.940 I think that we would probably find out that much is the same case with China's vaunted PLA.
00:16:19.000 This is, if Russia is this deficient militarily, I can't imagine that China's two million man army would be a lot better.
00:16:29.200 Am I wrong in that inference?
00:16:31.440 You know, this is something that's important issue that you raise, Lou.
00:16:35.860 I mean, we really don't know how effective the PLA would be in a full-scale fight.
00:16:41.400 We know that it can beat up small neighbors.
00:16:44.800 But even we go back to the night of June 15th, 2020, when China launched a surprise attack against India.
00:16:53.000 The Chinese army performed very poorly at the small unit level.
00:16:59.920 And this has been causing, I'm sure, some concern about the way the PLA would perform in larger scale engagements.
00:17:10.440 The thing about China's army, it's got a lot of equipment.
00:17:14.980 Some of that equipment and some of its weapons are better than ours, far better than ours.
00:17:19.900 And we have armed forces, which is in disarray.
00:17:23.900 But the point is, we have a single chain of command, which is critical in a war.
00:17:29.960 China's army has two chains of command.
00:17:33.340 It's a communist army.
00:17:34.460 It has a military chain of command, like every army does.
00:17:38.620 But it's also got a political chain of command, which is more important than the military one.
00:17:44.000 This is like the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
00:17:47.240 And this means that we don't know how China would be able to adapt.
00:17:51.460 I'm sure that they would do very well in the first couple days of a war.
00:17:54.740 But after being punched in the face, the question is, could they react well?
00:18:00.160 That's the real test of a military.
00:18:02.000 And we don't know the answer to that, Lou.
00:18:04.860 It's an open question, certainly, about that military.
00:18:08.960 It's no longer an open question about Russia's military.
00:18:12.920 They are disastrously led and it appears tactically have no concept of what they're doing.
00:18:20.620 And much, of course, and we have to credit the Ukrainian defenders, greatly armed, as they have been, with anti-tank systems and anti-at least rotor aircraft weapons that are highly effective.
00:18:34.720 And to see the awful carnage that has been wrought by the bombardment of every Ukrainian city, it seems, all that's left is rubble and ruin and basically foundations and a few walls in too many places.
00:18:51.680 But the Russians are doing this strategically.
00:18:56.360 They are destroying Ukraine before our very eyes. 0.99
00:18:59.100 And I just don't see how this resolves, frankly, because the damage they've done, the reparations that would be due in any kind of an agreement approaching an armistice, would have to involve significant reparations.
00:19:18.780 Your thoughts on that?
00:19:20.520 This is a critical issue that you raise, Lou.
00:19:22.440 You know, people will have said, look, after the Versailles Treaty that ended World War I, that reparations on the losing party are ill-advised.
00:19:32.500 It caused the resentment in Germany that led to World War II.
00:19:36.100 I understand all of that.
00:19:38.140 But this is a different case because I believe that when the war in Ukraine ends, the costs that we must impose on Russia should be as severe or more severe than Versailles.
00:19:49.820 The reason is we have to have a lesson for China.
00:19:54.440 China is looking at Ukraine very closely.
00:19:57.100 It's gotten a lot of lessons from this.
00:19:59.920 Many of these lessons are ones we should not want to teach the Chinese. 1.00
00:20:03.920 And that's due to a failure of the Biden policy.
00:20:06.360 But the way this could end favorably from the viewpoint of the international community is that Russia is and has enormous reparations forced out of Ukraine.
00:20:20.420 God knows what else.
00:20:21.740 Because China needs to see that if it were to start an invasion of Taiwan or Japan or the Philippines or renew its invasion of India, that it would face the most severe consequences.
00:20:34.860 So this is not really a question of the Ukraine and Russia.
00:20:39.060 This is a question of China and the next war. 0.65
00:20:41.900 Because we could see conflict in Ukraine spread both east and west throughout the Eurasian landmass.
00:20:48.180 And that means essentially what people would call World War III.
00:20:52.560 Yeah, and I think you raise a number of very good points and their guideposts to what policies the Biden administration should be following in the weeks ahead.
00:21:06.540 But there will not be time for a dithering as they did for three months this winter, knowing full well that Putin planned to cross that border into Ukraine with the troops and weaponry and vehicles that it had massed on the border, the western border of Ukraine.
00:21:25.340 This is a point at which the Ukrainians may be simply the focus and the center ring, but the other rings in this particular tent are Belarus and Moldova.
00:21:42.980 And it looks to me right now as though Putin is clearly thinking about an invasion that puts together those two flanks on either side of Ukraine.
00:21:56.940 And I think he means business.
00:21:58.940 And I don't think that NATO yet is prepared.
00:22:01.660 I don't think Biden and his national security team quite comprehend what's happening in front of them.
00:22:07.580 They couldn't understand what was happening when they were in stasis.
00:22:11.580 Everything was frozen before the invasion.
00:22:15.020 So I'm very worried about that.
00:22:17.800 And the Chinese, by the way, ought to be worried as well, because this is a full-on conflict will engage China.
00:22:26.260 And China, because of its sheer scale, you have to introduce all sorts of new ideas, which are, frankly, tactical nuclear weapons. 0.86
00:22:36.540 You're talking about nuclear war at some level, whether it's all out or whether it is incremental.
00:22:43.560 A nuclear war is, to me, it seems imminently possible.
00:22:50.700 You're right about that.
00:22:51.980 Remember that the Biden's inadequate response to help Ukraine is, I think, in large part due to Biden's fear of Russia using either tactical or strategic nuclear weapons.
00:23:04.420 Biden has actually said this.
00:23:06.260 He says, you know, he's talked about nuclear war.
00:23:08.980 He's talked about World War III in connection with Ukraine.
00:23:12.760 And Russian doctrine is, as they say, to escalate to de-escalate or escalate to win.
00:23:19.200 And that is either threatening or using the world's most destructive weapons early in a conventional conflict.
00:23:26.400 Well, China has been making threats to use nukes all along.
00:23:29.740 This is even before Ukraine.
00:23:31.680 You go back to July of last year, China threatened to incinerate Tokyo because of Tokyo's express support for Taiwan.
00:23:39.060 Then in September, Beijing threatened to nuke Australia over Australia, joining the AUKUS pact.
00:23:46.720 That's Australia, UK, and the US.
00:23:49.980 It periodically makes threats to destroy American cities.
00:23:54.160 And by the way, the threats against US are unprovoked.
00:23:57.080 They are unprovoked.
00:23:58.380 The Chinese military on the 10th of March actually threatened the, quote unquote, worst consequences to the world. 0.85
00:24:05.400 So China has learned that nuke threats work.
00:24:08.480 And that means they could use them with regard to Taiwan or whatever.
00:24:13.340 And at some point, the United States needs to tell China and Russia that the US has a nuclear arsenal as well.
00:24:22.020 That's when this really gets dangerous.
00:24:23.580 But we've got to do that, Lou, because if we don't, if we allow Russia to continue to use these threats and gain ground, China will do the same thing.
00:24:32.300 And that means that China will not stop until it is stopped. 0.90
00:24:37.320 And that means China believes that it has the right to annex the world. 0.91
00:24:42.300 And that world includes the United States of America.
00:24:46.960 And clearly, the United States has two aircraft carrier strike groups in the South China Sea now.
00:24:56.120 The Vinson and the Lincoln have been there since the early part of the year.
00:25:01.940 It's clear that the Pentagon is preparing for potential conflict.
00:25:08.620 Hopefully that this is a deterrent, but there is no question.
00:25:11.320 When you put that many carrier strike groups, you're talking about a very serious response in the waiting to any initiative on the part of, aggressive initiative on the part of China.
00:25:24.320 Yes.
00:25:25.520 Yes.
00:25:26.560 And by the way, China is perfectly capable of sinking a US aircraft carrier. 0.56
00:25:32.800 We assume that they wouldn't do that.
00:25:35.560 But China has done a number of things recently that has taken us by surprise.
00:25:40.800 Even people like me who have a pretty dark view of China's intentions.
00:25:45.580 We have a very dangerous situation in China.
00:25:48.820 We have a leader, Xi Jinping, that we talked about, who has a low threshold of risk.
00:25:54.300 We have a nation which sees a closing window of opportunity.
00:25:59.160 And the place is just at a point where anything can happen.
00:26:03.360 And I'm afraid that we have a national security policy team led by President Biden, or not led by President Biden in some cases, that is not capable of dealing with the world's challenges.
00:26:16.140 We saw that in Afghanistan.
00:26:17.400 We saw this in Ukraine, Lou.
00:26:19.740 Remember, the US and European Union and Great Britain have an economy that is greater than 25 times the size of Russia's.
00:26:28.680 And yet we couldn't deter this small country.
00:26:32.120 And the Chinese have learned that, by the way.
00:26:34.520 And that's what makes me really concerned about what's going on in East Asia, as well as what's going on in Eastern Europe.
00:26:40.880 One of the greatest failures of American foreign policy occurred this February.
00:26:45.300 Well, I assume you're referring to the strategic partnership agreed upon by Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin.
00:26:53.740 Which led to the Ukraine war, because Beijing greenlighted the invasion of Ukraine and has supported Russia materially throughout the conflict.
00:27:01.640 And we also have, speaking of smaller nations, North Korea, actually ridiculing President Biden for his, well, his inability to speak coherently, to forget himself, forget where he is, where he's going.
00:27:18.500 And Biden does make mistakes, no question.
00:27:21.640 But he's making them on the world stage and creating even more dangerous situations as a result, don't you think?
00:27:31.480 Yes, just to go back to two things we just talked about.
00:27:37.140 I think that it was ill-advised for Biden to talk about new world order, which he did.
00:27:43.840 I think it was ill-advised for him to tell the American people not to worry about nuclear war.
00:27:49.700 It was ill-advised for him to talk about World War III.
00:27:52.160 This was feeding into Putin's basically playbook and has allowed Putin to make even more threats to incinerate the world.
00:28:04.020 Just to give you a little bit of a timeline, Putin was making these threats to use his strategic arsenal.
00:28:11.320 He did that about the time he started the invasion of Ukraine.
00:28:15.480 He put his nuclear forces on high alert on February 27.
00:28:19.540 February 28, Biden talks about nuclear war, told the American people, don't worry about it.
00:28:25.640 March 1, the following day, Putin actually sorties his ballistic missile submarines and his land-based nuclear launchers, mobile launchers.
00:28:35.720 This is, as I mentioned, a dynamic that the Chinese have seen, and they think they can make the similar threats in their territorial ambitions. 0.98
00:28:44.840 And those ambitions will be first, the first attempt at blocking those ambitions in the South China Sea will be those aircraft carrier strike groups, U.S. carriers.
00:29:00.140 You talked about they had the ability to destroy a carrier.
00:29:04.960 I suppose in terms of probabilities, possibilities, that exists for a number of nations.
00:29:13.060 The question is, can they effectively carry out that effort with a hypersonic missile right now?
00:29:21.240 Because that is, I presume, the weapon that they would attempt to use to destroy those carriers.
00:29:28.020 Is that what you were referring to?
00:29:29.740 Yes, and they also have non-hypersonic cruise missiles that are supersonic, but not hypersonic.
00:29:36.920 And by the way, they have missiles with longer ranges than we do.
00:29:41.040 And it was only because President Trump took us out of the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty, INF, that we are now developing countermeasures.
00:29:52.180 Because we were, as Russia, bound by INF, China was not.
00:29:58.220 This left the U.S. Navy critically vulnerable, because their missiles were better than ours, longer range.
00:30:06.060 It was important for President Trump to do that, because at least now the Navy, which is a troubled institution, but the Navy is now at least working on missiles that can match China's.
00:30:17.740 So we have considerable challenges just to get to the battleground, is what I believe you're saying.
00:30:27.120 And I think you're exactly right.
00:30:28.840 The announcement today that the U.S. Navy is shrinking under Biden's cost cutting.
00:30:36.460 He goes around talking about how he's building the budget, the building back better for the military, which is pure nonsense.
00:30:42.580 In fact, he's cutting it back.
00:30:45.320 The Navy will scrap 24 ships, including five cruisers and two Los Angeles-class submarines, while China is building at what I think many people thought would be an impossible rate.
00:31:02.580 They're building their Navy by leaps and bounds, moving out ships every week from their dockyards.
00:31:10.920 Your thoughts as we wrap up here.
00:31:13.760 This is, we no longer have the world's largest Navy.
00:31:17.720 China does.
00:31:18.860 And when you add in China's maritime militia, which is not included in the traditional count of Navy ships, we are very much behind China.
00:31:29.280 We also have a Navy, which is just trouble.
00:31:33.160 It has incorrect strategy for a number of reasons.
00:31:37.740 And as we've seen from the two collisions of the Arleigh Burke destroyers last decade, plus the fire at the Bonhomme Richard a couple of years ago, this is a Navy that has management problems.
00:31:48.960 But one other thing, Lou, and that is, this is a problem across the Pentagon.
00:31:52.500 They, in the Pentagon, believe that there's a conflict with China.
00:31:56.720 It will be in the 2027, 2035 timeframe.
00:32:00.620 Therefore, they are scrapping current weapons and ships.
00:32:04.520 The Air Force, for instance, is taking 20 Raptors, the best plane in the world, out of service.
00:32:09.840 They want to do this to pay for modernization for the future.
00:32:12.680 I believe that if we're going to have a fight with China, it's going to be now. 0.99
00:32:18.100 There's a reason why some analysts call the 2020s the decade of concern.
00:32:23.340 So we have a Pentagon, which is not just the Navy, but especially the Navy, that is preparing for conflict in the wrong timeframe.
00:32:33.280 The conflict could very well be now.
00:32:35.600 Yeah, and the Marine Corps is undergoing a revamping.
00:32:40.960 It's being reconstituted, repurposed.
00:32:43.720 It's mindless, in my opinion, but it is what the Marine Corps is doing.
00:32:49.580 The Navy right now has a cadre of senior officers who are risk-averse in their strategic thinking.
00:32:57.140 It's a very difficult time for the command structure of the U.S. military.
00:33:03.100 The Pentagon is filled with what I would call semi-competent leaders, and in point of fact, many of them proven losers, whether it be the conflict in Afghanistan or Iraq.
00:33:15.720 They have not distinguished themselves, and it's a deeply troubling time.
00:33:21.800 Gordon, you get the last word here, as always, and thank you for being with us here, my friend.
00:33:27.360 Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more about the U.S. military.
00:33:29.880 It is deeply troubled through all of its services, and as you point out, the most important failure is that we have a risk-adverse officer corps, one that's much more concerned about following social diversity dictates from the president rather than fighting the Chinese. 0.87
00:33:49.000 As a friend of mine, his son is in the Army, had complained to his dad, dad, our Army is not lethal anymore.
00:33:59.840 That is the reality, and thank you, Lou, for raising that.
00:34:04.340 Gordon Chang, as always, thanks for being with us.
00:34:07.280 We really appreciate your words of wisdom and your insight.
00:34:11.580 You're a great American.
00:34:13.020 Thank you, Lou.
00:34:13.720 God bless you.
00:34:14.820 Thank you.
00:34:15.420 Thanks, Gordon, and God bless you.
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00:34:49.380 Please join us here tomorrow.
00:34:51.100 Till then, God bless you.
00:34:53.400 Thanks, everybody, for being with us, and God bless America.
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