The Great America Show - CHRISTIANITY THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO TYRANNY

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Great America Show. Great to have you with us today.

00:00:06.680 Today, I thought it would be interesting for all of us to think about the times in which we're

00:00:11.160 living and many of the bigger, the larger issues that we're contending with. Larger issues like

00:00:19.080 good versus evil, a White House that seems to be driven by satanic forces. I have said all along

00:00:28.160 that President Biden is a puppet president. I had it initially, at least, no thought at all that his

00:00:36.760 masters would be demonic themselves and that he would be, at their beck and call, their, if you

00:00:46.240 will, bag man, their go-to man for all sorts of destruction and evil. And that is the time 0.98

00:00:57.460 in which we live, folks. And so I thought it would be interesting to talk about this from a

00:01:01.860 theological point of view, a religious point of view, and to ask Father Frank Pavone to join us.

00:01:09.640 And I am delighted to say that he agreed and he joins us now. He is one of the most refreshing

00:01:15.820 thinkers and a holy man, a great American. Father, great to have you with us. And let me say,

00:01:23.620 let me say, it's just a pleasure to have you with us. Always enjoy our talks. These are serious talks

00:01:30.560 these days because the issues are so large, the stakes are so high, and we have people who are

00:01:37.520 watching this White House and they're scratching their heads. To me, Father, it looks straightforward.

00:01:44.400 This is a man who is nothing more than a puppet. He is driven by evil forces, whether they're Marxist or

00:01:52.080 demonic. These forces are laying waste to our country. Your thoughts?

00:01:58.740 Yes, Lou. Well, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to speak with you. And, you know, as I

00:02:03.020 travel around in my work in the pro-life movement, I've never heard more citizens saying, you know,

00:02:09.300 the political battles we have now are simply a battle between good and evil. A lot of people,

00:02:15.220 you know, have a belief, they have a religious posture, but they've never quite seen so clearly

00:02:21.360 that these divisions, these battles are really a spiritual battle manifesting itself as a political

00:02:27.340 battle, as a cultural battle. Now, the problem that we're seeing from this administration

00:02:31.980 is not simply the man Joe Biden. And you're saying this implicitly by, you know, talking about him

00:02:40.380 being a puppet. The problem is systemic within the Democrat party of today, unfortunately, sadly.

00:02:48.320 But it's essential for people to understand. You can just fill in the blank. Whatever candidate

00:02:53.800 they put forward, whether it's for president, for U.S. Senate, for the House, the whole party

00:03:00.180 has gotten into a posture of having sustained systematic attacks on Christian faith and values.

00:03:09.600 And people say, well, why? What's the explanation for this? And I think the explanation is best

00:03:17.060 expressed by simply saying Christianity is the biggest obstacle to tyranny. These people,

00:03:24.500 unfortunately, no longer believe in the concept of freedom that the founders of America believed in

00:03:31.280 and articulated in our founding documents. For example, the idea of God-given rights has come under

00:03:37.360 more and more direct, explicit ridicule by those on the radical left and in the Democrat leadership.

00:03:44.240 Are you God-given rights? Well, if there aren't God-given rights, well, then the path is open

00:03:50.440 for the Democrat party, the president, the Supreme Court to declare or to nullify whatever rights they

00:03:58.620 want. Christian faith, Christian truth, which is celebrated in Christian holidays, is the biggest

00:04:07.020 obstacle to that. And I think that's what that's the kind of struggle we're seeing.

00:04:11.360 And in that context, to think that the this White House had the temerity, the audacity to on Easter Sunday

00:04:20.780 declared a day of trans visibility, the ignorance of it all, the insult of it, the demeaning of 0.95

00:04:31.900 Christianity, and frankly, the war on not only Christianity, but Christians themselves. And then 0.77

00:04:40.420 to have the White House, the president himself say, oh, I didn't know what I did. The White House said,

00:04:47.240 well, we didn't know that Easter was going to fall on the 31st. We didn't know that that would be any

00:04:53.320 conflict with and blah, blah, blah. The reality is they're absolutely barbaric and ignorant in every

00:05:03.160 way. They didn't know it was Easter Sunday. This is a Judeo-Christian culture we live in. Our heritage

00:05:09.900 is Judeo-Christian. And Easter is well known to even, I would say, to the basest atheist in the country. 0.69

00:05:21.600 They know when Easter is. But this White House, we're supposed to believe, didn't, got its dates

00:05:27.100 confused and didn't know what was happening. Even though there was an Easter egg roll in the White

00:05:32.620 House, even though the Jill Biden and the president were standing in front of stuffed rabbits, I mean,

00:05:41.260 what does it take to bring any kind of consciousness or conscience to this Marxist regime?

00:05:50.400 You know, I think our viewers need to understand, and I would say most of them do,

00:05:54.300 that none of this is by accident. I mean, a presidential proclamation doesn't come about

00:05:59.060 with Joe Biden sitting at his desk and deciding to write something. I mean, this is vetted, as you

00:06:03.560 know, on many, many layers of the administration. So many eyes are on that. Approvals are given.

00:06:09.300 They all knew. This is not by accident. Any more than, if you look at the pattern, you know,

00:06:14.880 you mentioned about the Easter egg roll. And, you know, they didn't allow religious messages

00:06:19.760 this year to be included in this Easter egg celebration.

00:06:24.100 No Christian symbols. No Christian symbols. Right. And, you know, Lou, that's part of a 0.98

00:06:30.020 pattern. If we look back, think back to Thanksgiving, Biden was under criticism again for issuing a

00:06:36.300 Thanksgiving proclamation that didn't thank God. And then you go to Christmas, too. In fact,

00:06:42.720 you look at the several of these major Christian and American holidays going back the last few years

00:06:49.040 years and also into the into the Obama administration. What a contrast we see. There's a backing away from

00:06:55.700 any public acknowledgement of or even naming of Jesus Christ, God, or the significance of these

00:07:03.280 various different holidays. Now, by contrast, President Trump. I mean, I couldn't as a preacher

00:07:10.440 proclaim the gospel more clearly than Donald J. Trump does when he issues proclamations about Easter

00:07:17.320 and Christmas and that he's proclaiming the gospel unapologetically because he believes in something

00:07:23.100 that the Democrat Party no longer believes in, that America thrives when people of faith express

00:07:29.560 that faith. That's when America thrives. And the Democrat Party, again, it's the biggest threat

00:07:35.660 because they have an ideology that says, no, no, we have to be in control of what Americans think,

00:07:41.800 of what they say, of how they they live. We have to be in control. It's a party of just a lust for power.

00:07:51.280 And again, the biggest thing that stands in their way is for somebody named Jesus Christ to say,

00:07:56.000 I am the truth. And if you know the truth, the truth will set you free. That's America.

00:08:03.380 And Biden and his party are on the absolute opposite track.

00:08:09.800 Joe Biden, the Marxist Dems, the satanic Marxist Dems, because they are a party of Satan, 0.58

00:08:17.840 in my opinion. They're not simply the party of opposition. They mean to destroy what is

00:08:23.320 everything about America, including Jesus Christ, our heritage. They mean to destroy the concept of God 0.76

00:08:30.940 because they don't, it's unacceptable to them as they go about trying to destroy the American family, 0.55

00:08:39.020 every value that we hold dear in this nation. We're talking with Father Pavone and we will be

00:08:45.680 right back in just moments, I assure you. Please be patient. Stay with us. We'll be right back.

00:08:51.120 We're back now with Father Frank Pavone. And Father, let me start with abortion, if we may, 0.80

00:09:04.640 on this segment, because abortion is one of those things that is, I think, cherished by

00:09:09.460 everyone who is a Christian. The right to life is, there's no equivocation and there's nothing

00:09:18.180 ambiguous about it. And I think that everyone who follows the science, by the way, and I truly

00:09:23.580 believe this, life begins at conception and there is no other scientific alternative to that statement

00:09:30.980 of what I think is truth and fact. Your thoughts about recently, we had four more people sentenced to

00:09:37.920 prison because they were praying outside an abortion clinic, getting longer sentences than

00:09:44.980 than people who are robbing banks and attempting murder. But that is because the Joe Biden

00:09:55.060 administration, this Marxist-dim regime, a means to destroy Christianity along with everything else

00:10:02.280 that is American. Your thoughts? Yeah, they don't believe in the unalienable rights anymore, first among

00:10:08.080 which is the right to life. You know, I've been a full-time pro-life leader now for 30 years,

00:10:12.800 and I know most of these people who have been recently sentenced and really just the object

00:10:19.400 of weaponization of government. This is a government that hates the pro-life movement and wants to do 0.97

00:10:25.960 everything possible for the same reasons we were discussing earlier, to eradicate the pro-life 0.83

00:10:31.000 philosophy. But, you know, going into this election, you know, many folks on the Republican side now

00:10:36.960 are nervous about this issue because the Democrats think they can win on it and they're going to be

00:10:41.760 putting abortion more and more forward. Why? Because they want to hold on to their base. They see 0.68

00:10:47.520 their base slipping away among the Latino vote, the black vote, the youth vote. But there's one

00:10:52.700 demographic that they're hoping to hold on to with the abortion issue, which is single women, especially

00:10:57.700 women without children. And they are holding on to that group, although President Trump is doing

00:11:04.200 very well among women also. But the point is that on the abortion issue, we at Priests for Life recently

00:11:10.080 did a poll with McLaughlin. And one of the most interesting results was this question. We said

00:11:17.860 to likely voters, if you have a candidate come forward and say, I'm in favor of the right to abortion

00:11:24.100 without restriction. And that's the position of the Democrat Party. Versus, on the other hand,

00:11:30.300 a candidate who says, look, I'm pro-life. I think legislatively we should have some exceptions.

00:11:36.940 But I also am working for policies to make it easier for that woman to have that baby. 1.00

00:11:42.800 Which of these two candidates would you prefer? The respondents preferred the pro-life candidate by 61%

00:11:50.520 to 24% for the abortion rights candidate without exception. So that's a significant finding. And

00:12:00.340 it's consistent with a lot of other polling, too, that says to us in the pro-life arena and in the

00:12:06.080 Republican Party, look, don't be afraid of this issue. And I hear President Trump saying this, too.

00:12:10.800 We've got to talk about it the right way. Number one, it's the other side who are the extremists.

00:12:17.560 They don't want even the most reasonable limitations on abortion. And number two,

00:12:22.920 we are the compassionate people. We're providing help every day to moms who want to have their baby,

00:12:29.580 but they're facing difficult circumstances. We don't minimize those difficulties at all.

00:12:34.720 Pregnancy centers are four times more numerous in America than abortion clinics. So we're the ones

00:12:39.740 who are providing the help day by day. And if the candidates and if all of us as advocates for

00:12:45.660 the pro-life side can articulate it in this way, Lou, I believe this will be a winning issue at the

00:12:52.040 ballot box, not a losing issue. Well, and then the pollings support you in that. And I have to say

00:12:59.620 that I think you're exactly right that the pro-life side of this issue, we have been too, in my opinion,

00:13:08.860 just too hesitant to talk fully about the issues and to talk fully about the love and the support that is

00:13:18.920 required for a young woman who has an unwanted pregnancy. We need to be far more generous. We

00:13:26.600 need to be far more supportive. And I'm talking in terms of as individuals, as communities, but I'm also

00:13:34.140 talking about as a government. If there is no place for government here to support the family, 0.96

00:13:40.780 to support, again, a young woman with an unwanted pregnancy, then what kind of government are we?

00:13:48.700 And why is there this divide over conservatism and where government belongs? If government belongs

00:13:55.520 anywhere in this country, it belongs in full, and I mean, animated, energetic support of the American

00:14:05.040 family. And that family includes a young mother with an unwanted child and who has learned that life

00:14:14.660 itself is more precious than anyone lets on in one of those abortion clinics.

00:14:19.540 Hundreds of millions of dollars every year of our taxpayer money are being funneled into

00:14:25.820 Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion business in the world, and other abortion facilities. Now,

00:14:33.140 the Supreme Court and in the abortion jurisprudence in America has said making abortion legal does not in

00:14:43.260 any way oblige the state to pay for it, nor does it prevent the state from favoring life over abortion.

00:14:51.980 So that's been a constitutional principle. And what we find instead, and again, the engine behind this

00:14:58.260 is the Democrat Party, is that the money's being poured into Planned Parenthood for the killing of

00:15:04.620 babies, not only in America, but overseas. Meanwhile, these pregnancy centers that are,

00:15:10.800 like I said, four times more numerous than abortion facilities, and I visited most of them across the

00:15:17.040 country, and I helped to train these people that are working in them every day, they are operating

00:15:21.680 on shoestring budgets, and they get practically zero from any government agency, state or federal. I mean,

00:15:29.080 there are a couple of programs here and there that are able to bring some funding, but why isn't there

00:15:34.720 a bigger push? You know, the left will complain about these, you know, these abortion bans that 0.99

00:15:40.080 the Republicans have put in place, and little do they, attention do they pay to the fact that many

00:15:46.380 of these pro-life laws also are putting tens of millions of dollars at the service of the very women 1.00

00:15:52.560 that the other side claims to care about, and giving them real alternatives. I mean, that's choice.

00:15:58.240 You're in favor of choice. You're going to help her choose whichever way is going to be best for her.

00:16:03.460 Choice. But we have a government that is working against free choice. They're working against

00:16:10.220 God. They're working against Christianity. They're working against the family. They're 0.98

00:16:14.400 working against that young mother of that baby. And I don't understand why the conservatives of the

00:16:22.080 Republican Party primarily have been so hesitant, because they have these high principles of fiscal

00:16:28.360 conservative, you know, views. What in the world is wrong with these conservatives that they do not

00:16:36.260 understand that this is a place for the greatest compassion, the greatest role possible? It's a question

00:16:44.280 we're going to take up as we continue our conversation with Father Frank Pavone. Stay with us. We're coming

00:16:49.600 right back.

00:16:56.360 We're back now with Father Frank Pavone. And Father, I really do appreciate you being with us today. And I want to turn to a

00:17:03.360 couple of issues that are all related to this. And I want to, if we may, listen to President Trump call for

00:17:11.800 Christian Visibility Day, one of the brilliant political stratagem. Here is President Trump.

00:17:19.360 What the hell was Biden thinking when he declared Easter Sunday to be Trans Visibility Day?

00:17:30.460 Such total disrespect to Christians and November 5th is going to be called something else. You know,

00:17:37.500 it's going to be called Christian Visibility Day when Christians turn out in numbers that nobody has 1.00

00:17:44.280 ever seen before. Let's call it Christian Visibility Day. Again, I think it's just brilliant. And to put

00:17:52.380 it right in the face of these Marxist dams, these, you know, these, these people who mean to destroy 0.85

00:18:00.240 this nation, thank goodness and thank God that we've got a candidate like President Trump to put up

00:18:06.480 against the all of the forces of evil. I'm by the way, I'm not sure it's a fair fight for all of those

00:18:11.860 forces, are you? You know, President Trump, two things come to mind looking at that clip. First

00:18:18.140 of all, he knows how to make what the other side tries to do boomerang on them every single time.

00:18:25.840 He does it with his visibility. Okay, now it's going to be Christian Visibility Day. And what he's

00:18:29.840 saying is, hey, we win this by coming out in tremendous numbers, you know, just, it doesn't,

00:18:35.340 can't be just a victory. It needs to be an overwhelming victory. We come out and we, and we vote.

00:18:39.680 And secondly, what he does, I mean, he did the same thing with the bloodbath, you know,

00:18:44.820 thing. Now he's talking about Biden's border bloodbath. And we all have to learn how to do

00:18:49.120 the same thing. Take what the other side does. They try to tag us with these words and these,

00:18:52.860 these, these concepts and just boomerang it right back at them. Second thing too, he,

00:18:58.360 in speaking about Christian Visibility Day, it's not only a question of we're going to show up to vote,

00:19:02.880 but from the very beginning, even of his first campaign in 2015, he would be meeting with the

00:19:09.800 pastors. And I was in some of those meetings and he would say, you know, I'm so grateful for all the

00:19:14.120 support I'm getting from you. And, and, but I don't understand how come I'm not getting more explicit

00:19:20.400 endorsements. And he was, he was informed that, you know, the churches are, are, are, and, and other

00:19:26.200 tax exempt entities are limited by law in what they can do with political endorsements,

00:19:31.540 the so-called Johnson amendment. And he said, that's crazy. It's, you should be able to speak

00:19:36.260 your mind. So once he was elected, he took executive action to limit the impact of that

00:19:42.180 so-called Johnson amendment. And we've got to ultimately get rid of that. But the point is

00:19:46.600 beautiful words that he spoke that I repeat to the clergy all the time. He said, freedom of speech

00:19:52.760 doesn't stop at the door of the church or the synagogue. You know, free, we, America needs to hear

00:19:58.020 the voices of the clergy. And, and by extension, of course, he's saying America needs to hear the

00:20:03.100 voices of the believers. Uh, and this president has done more to, to protect that kind of freedom

00:20:08.900 than anyone else. In fact, I've gotten more encouragement in my preaching from Donald Trump

00:20:13.640 than I have from a lot of the Catholic vishers. So, I mean, it's just exactly on the right track. 0.91

00:20:19.340 Yeah. To that point, I, when you talk about, you know, the black churches, uh, the, the Marxist 0.88

00:20:25.300 Dems in their churches, uh, whatever their, wherever they worship, uh, there's never a

00:20:31.940 question about whether or not they'll lose their tax exemption. That's right. That's only on one side.

00:20:36.680 And why I, what I don't understand is why that isn't just challenged straight up because this is

00:20:43.280 the reality. We're facing evil incarnate, uh, in the Marxist Dems. It's a satanic party as Senator

00:20:51.500 Tommy Tuberville, uh, said the other day. I mean, they are satanic. There is, you cannot look at a

00:20:57.640 single policy that is in support of the American family, that is in support of the constitution,

00:21:03.000 that is in support of the national interest of the very country that makes possible the freedom

00:21:08.080 to act and behave as these, as these vicious venal fools do, these Marxist Dems. 0.79

00:21:15.420 And, and to the point that you're making, you know, and I am always, uh, urging the church to

00:21:20.540 speak more into the political realm. And sometimes people will say to me, oh, but the church is

00:21:25.060 becoming too political. I say, no, no, that's not the problem. The problem is that our politics have

00:21:30.000 become too pagan, which is what you're saying in other words, you know, there, there's obviously a

00:21:36.820 truth to the fact that there's an autonomy and there's a distinction of mission between the church,

00:21:42.400 which bears witness to the kingdom of God and the civil government, which is takes care of the

00:21:47.820 political life here on this earth. But there is an intersection between the two, especially when

00:21:53.220 the political realm starts attacking fundamental values and truths that the church proclaims.

00:22:00.180 Yeah. Think about this. For example, we'll use the Catholic church as an example. It's not in,

00:22:07.860 in politics. The heck it's not. Catholic charities are bringing in millions of illegal immigrants, 0.91

00:22:13.720 which is against the law. It is also highly political and it's at the behest of the Marxist

00:22:19.960 Dems who, who worship Satan. I mean, this is outrageous what we put up with.

00:22:26.060 It's so true. It's so true. And if I could comment too, on this, on this, the satanic dimension that

00:22:32.360 you've been bringing up, you know, a lot of these people will say, oh, but you know, I don't worship

00:22:37.380 Satan. I, and some of them will even say, oh, I don't even believe in the devil. And you know

00:22:41.780 what Lou, the devil doesn't care. The devil really doesn't even care if somebody believes in him or

00:22:47.720 not, as long as they don't follow God. When somebody comes, you know, sometimes we see at some

00:22:52.620 of these radical demonstrations, people will hold up signs that say, hail Satan. What they're actually

00:22:57.720 saying is very simply, I can do what I want because that in itself is satanic in the sense that it's

00:23:05.620 rebelling against the authority of God. God says, I am your God. You are my people. I am your Lord.

00:23:12.680 Obey my commandments and you will live. Satan is say, I don't care about any commandments of God.

00:23:18.060 I'm going to do what I want. As long as a person is saying, I'm going to do what I want. Devil

00:23:21.840 couldn't care less whether they actually believe he's a living spiritual being or not. In fact, he is,

00:23:27.620 but that's where you're completely right in saying, this is a satanic party in as much as it is

00:23:33.480 throwing off what they consider shackles of commandments and truth and God. Shackles. In

00:23:40.620 reality, those aren't shackles. That's the road to our freedom and fulfillment.

00:23:45.360 And their rationalizations, their excuses are as always, they have no character. They are operating

00:23:52.720 at the behest of Satan and for Satan. And they know it. They know it and they despise God, Jesus

00:24:02.080 Christ, and every Christian in this country. And until people understand that, we're going to have 1.00

00:24:08.800 an even tougher fight on our hands. And I thank you so much. I am so grateful to you for the fight that

00:24:16.480 you carry into the arena every day. God bless you. And Father Frank Pavone, thanks so much for being

00:24:22.680 with us here. You're a great American. Thank you, Lou. God bless you.

00:24:25.560 That's it for us today. Thanks for being with us, Father Frank Pavone, one of the great Americans

00:24:30.560 in the fight, as I said, every day battling, well, Marxist Dems, the fools on the left, the rhinos on the

00:24:38.820 right, and oh yeah, the satanic Marxist Dems of the Democrat Party and Biden regime. Thanks for being

00:24:45.840 with us. See you next time.

The Great America Show - April 05, 2024

CHRISTIANITY THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO TYRANNY

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