CHRISTIANITY THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO TYRANNY
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On Easter Sunday, the White House declared a day of trans visibility and disrespect for Christianity. What does this say about the state of the country and the culture at large? What does it mean for the future of America and the world?
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Welcome to the Great America Show. Great to have you with us today.
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Today, I thought it would be interesting for all of us to think about the times in which we're
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living and many of the bigger, the larger issues that we're contending with. Larger issues like
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good versus evil, a White House that seems to be driven by satanic forces. I have said all along
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that President Biden is a puppet president. I had it initially, at least, no thought at all that his
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masters would be demonic themselves and that he would be, at their beck and call, their, if you
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will, bag man, their go-to man for all sorts of destruction and evil. And that is the time
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in which we live, folks. And so I thought it would be interesting to talk about this from a
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theological point of view, a religious point of view, and to ask Father Frank Pavone to join us.
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And I am delighted to say that he agreed and he joins us now. He is one of the most refreshing
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thinkers and a holy man, a great American. Father, great to have you with us. And let me say,
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let me say, it's just a pleasure to have you with us. Always enjoy our talks. These are serious talks
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these days because the issues are so large, the stakes are so high, and we have people who are
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watching this White House and they're scratching their heads. To me, Father, it looks straightforward.
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This is a man who is nothing more than a puppet. He is driven by evil forces, whether they're Marxist or
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demonic. These forces are laying waste to our country. Your thoughts?
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Yes, Lou. Well, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to speak with you. And, you know, as I
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travel around in my work in the pro-life movement, I've never heard more citizens saying, you know,
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the political battles we have now are simply a battle between good and evil. A lot of people,
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you know, have a belief, they have a religious posture, but they've never quite seen so clearly
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that these divisions, these battles are really a spiritual battle manifesting itself as a political
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battle, as a cultural battle. Now, the problem that we're seeing from this administration
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is not simply the man Joe Biden. And you're saying this implicitly by, you know, talking about him
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being a puppet. The problem is systemic within the Democrat party of today, unfortunately, sadly.
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But it's essential for people to understand. You can just fill in the blank. Whatever candidate
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they put forward, whether it's for president, for U.S. Senate, for the House, the whole party
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has gotten into a posture of having sustained systematic attacks on Christian faith and values.
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And people say, well, why? What's the explanation for this? And I think the explanation is best
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expressed by simply saying Christianity is the biggest obstacle to tyranny. These people,
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unfortunately, no longer believe in the concept of freedom that the founders of America believed in
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and articulated in our founding documents. For example, the idea of God-given rights has come under
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more and more direct, explicit ridicule by those on the radical left and in the Democrat leadership.
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Are you God-given rights? Well, if there aren't God-given rights, well, then the path is open
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for the Democrat party, the president, the Supreme Court to declare or to nullify whatever rights they
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want. Christian faith, Christian truth, which is celebrated in Christian holidays, is the biggest
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obstacle to that. And I think that's what that's the kind of struggle we're seeing.
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And in that context, to think that the this White House had the temerity, the audacity to on Easter Sunday
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declared a day of trans visibility, the ignorance of it all, the insult of it, the demeaning of
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Christianity, and frankly, the war on not only Christianity, but Christians themselves. And then
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to have the White House, the president himself say, oh, I didn't know what I did. The White House said,
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well, we didn't know that Easter was going to fall on the 31st. We didn't know that that would be any
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conflict with and blah, blah, blah. The reality is they're absolutely barbaric and ignorant in every
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way. They didn't know it was Easter Sunday. This is a Judeo-Christian culture we live in. Our heritage
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is Judeo-Christian. And Easter is well known to even, I would say, to the basest atheist in the country.
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They know when Easter is. But this White House, we're supposed to believe, didn't, got its dates
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confused and didn't know what was happening. Even though there was an Easter egg roll in the White
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House, even though the Jill Biden and the president were standing in front of stuffed rabbits, I mean,
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what does it take to bring any kind of consciousness or conscience to this Marxist regime?
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You know, I think our viewers need to understand, and I would say most of them do,
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that none of this is by accident. I mean, a presidential proclamation doesn't come about
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with Joe Biden sitting at his desk and deciding to write something. I mean, this is vetted, as you
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know, on many, many layers of the administration. So many eyes are on that. Approvals are given.
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They all knew. This is not by accident. Any more than, if you look at the pattern, you know,
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you mentioned about the Easter egg roll. And, you know, they didn't allow religious messages
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this year to be included in this Easter egg celebration.
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No Christian symbols. No Christian symbols. Right. And, you know, Lou, that's part of a
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pattern. If we look back, think back to Thanksgiving, Biden was under criticism again for issuing a
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Thanksgiving proclamation that didn't thank God. And then you go to Christmas, too. In fact,
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you look at the several of these major Christian and American holidays going back the last few years
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years and also into the into the Obama administration. What a contrast we see. There's a backing away from
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any public acknowledgement of or even naming of Jesus Christ, God, or the significance of these
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various different holidays. Now, by contrast, President Trump. I mean, I couldn't as a preacher
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proclaim the gospel more clearly than Donald J. Trump does when he issues proclamations about Easter
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and Christmas and that he's proclaiming the gospel unapologetically because he believes in something
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that the Democrat Party no longer believes in, that America thrives when people of faith express
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that faith. That's when America thrives. And the Democrat Party, again, it's the biggest threat
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because they have an ideology that says, no, no, we have to be in control of what Americans think,
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of what they say, of how they they live. We have to be in control. It's a party of just a lust for power.
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And again, the biggest thing that stands in their way is for somebody named Jesus Christ to say,
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I am the truth. And if you know the truth, the truth will set you free. That's America.
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And Biden and his party are on the absolute opposite track.
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Joe Biden, the Marxist Dems, the satanic Marxist Dems, because they are a party of Satan,
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in my opinion. They're not simply the party of opposition. They mean to destroy what is
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everything about America, including Jesus Christ, our heritage. They mean to destroy the concept of God
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because they don't, it's unacceptable to them as they go about trying to destroy the American family,
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every value that we hold dear in this nation. We're talking with Father Pavone and we will be
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right back in just moments, I assure you. Please be patient. Stay with us. We'll be right back.
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We're back now with Father Frank Pavone. And Father, let me start with abortion, if we may,
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on this segment, because abortion is one of those things that is, I think, cherished by
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everyone who is a Christian. The right to life is, there's no equivocation and there's nothing
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ambiguous about it. And I think that everyone who follows the science, by the way, and I truly
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believe this, life begins at conception and there is no other scientific alternative to that statement
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of what I think is truth and fact. Your thoughts about recently, we had four more people sentenced to
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prison because they were praying outside an abortion clinic, getting longer sentences than
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than people who are robbing banks and attempting murder. But that is because the Joe Biden
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administration, this Marxist-dim regime, a means to destroy Christianity along with everything else
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that is American. Your thoughts? Yeah, they don't believe in the unalienable rights anymore, first among
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which is the right to life. You know, I've been a full-time pro-life leader now for 30 years,
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and I know most of these people who have been recently sentenced and really just the object
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of weaponization of government. This is a government that hates the pro-life movement and wants to do
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everything possible for the same reasons we were discussing earlier, to eradicate the pro-life
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philosophy. But, you know, going into this election, you know, many folks on the Republican side now
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are nervous about this issue because the Democrats think they can win on it and they're going to be
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putting abortion more and more forward. Why? Because they want to hold on to their base. They see
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their base slipping away among the Latino vote, the black vote, the youth vote. But there's one
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demographic that they're hoping to hold on to with the abortion issue, which is single women, especially
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women without children. And they are holding on to that group, although President Trump is doing
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very well among women also. But the point is that on the abortion issue, we at Priests for Life recently
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did a poll with McLaughlin. And one of the most interesting results was this question. We said
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to likely voters, if you have a candidate come forward and say, I'm in favor of the right to abortion
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without restriction. And that's the position of the Democrat Party. Versus, on the other hand,
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a candidate who says, look, I'm pro-life. I think legislatively we should have some exceptions.
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But I also am working for policies to make it easier for that woman to have that baby.
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Which of these two candidates would you prefer? The respondents preferred the pro-life candidate by 61%
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to 24% for the abortion rights candidate without exception. So that's a significant finding. And
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it's consistent with a lot of other polling, too, that says to us in the pro-life arena and in the
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Republican Party, look, don't be afraid of this issue. And I hear President Trump saying this, too.
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We've got to talk about it the right way. Number one, it's the other side who are the extremists.
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They don't want even the most reasonable limitations on abortion. And number two,
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we are the compassionate people. We're providing help every day to moms who want to have their baby,
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but they're facing difficult circumstances. We don't minimize those difficulties at all.
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Pregnancy centers are four times more numerous in America than abortion clinics. So we're the ones
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who are providing the help day by day. And if the candidates and if all of us as advocates for
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the pro-life side can articulate it in this way, Lou, I believe this will be a winning issue at the
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ballot box, not a losing issue. Well, and then the pollings support you in that. And I have to say
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that I think you're exactly right that the pro-life side of this issue, we have been too, in my opinion,
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just too hesitant to talk fully about the issues and to talk fully about the love and the support that is
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required for a young woman who has an unwanted pregnancy. We need to be far more generous. We
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need to be far more supportive. And I'm talking in terms of as individuals, as communities, but I'm also
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talking about as a government. If there is no place for government here to support the family,
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to support, again, a young woman with an unwanted pregnancy, then what kind of government are we?
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And why is there this divide over conservatism and where government belongs? If government belongs
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anywhere in this country, it belongs in full, and I mean, animated, energetic support of the American
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family. And that family includes a young mother with an unwanted child and who has learned that life
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itself is more precious than anyone lets on in one of those abortion clinics.
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Hundreds of millions of dollars every year of our taxpayer money are being funneled into
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Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion business in the world, and other abortion facilities. Now,
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the Supreme Court and in the abortion jurisprudence in America has said making abortion legal does not in
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any way oblige the state to pay for it, nor does it prevent the state from favoring life over abortion.
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So that's been a constitutional principle. And what we find instead, and again, the engine behind this
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is the Democrat Party, is that the money's being poured into Planned Parenthood for the killing of
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babies, not only in America, but overseas. Meanwhile, these pregnancy centers that are,
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like I said, four times more numerous than abortion facilities, and I visited most of them across the
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country, and I helped to train these people that are working in them every day, they are operating
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on shoestring budgets, and they get practically zero from any government agency, state or federal. I mean,
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there are a couple of programs here and there that are able to bring some funding, but why isn't there
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a bigger push? You know, the left will complain about these, you know, these abortion bans that
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the Republicans have put in place, and little do they, attention do they pay to the fact that many
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of these pro-life laws also are putting tens of millions of dollars at the service of the very women
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that the other side claims to care about, and giving them real alternatives. I mean, that's choice.
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You're in favor of choice. You're going to help her choose whichever way is going to be best for her.
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Choice. But we have a government that is working against free choice. They're working against
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God. They're working against Christianity. They're working against the family. They're
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working against that young mother of that baby. And I don't understand why the conservatives of the
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Republican Party primarily have been so hesitant, because they have these high principles of fiscal
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conservative, you know, views. What in the world is wrong with these conservatives that they do not
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understand that this is a place for the greatest compassion, the greatest role possible? It's a question
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we're going to take up as we continue our conversation with Father Frank Pavone. Stay with us. We're coming
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We're back now with Father Frank Pavone. And Father, I really do appreciate you being with us today. And I want to turn to a
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couple of issues that are all related to this. And I want to, if we may, listen to President Trump call for
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Christian Visibility Day, one of the brilliant political stratagem. Here is President Trump.
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What the hell was Biden thinking when he declared Easter Sunday to be Trans Visibility Day?
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Such total disrespect to Christians and November 5th is going to be called something else. You know,
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it's going to be called Christian Visibility Day when Christians turn out in numbers that nobody has
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ever seen before. Let's call it Christian Visibility Day. Again, I think it's just brilliant. And to put
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it right in the face of these Marxist dams, these, you know, these, these people who mean to destroy
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this nation, thank goodness and thank God that we've got a candidate like President Trump to put up
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against the all of the forces of evil. I'm by the way, I'm not sure it's a fair fight for all of those
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forces, are you? You know, President Trump, two things come to mind looking at that clip. First
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of all, he knows how to make what the other side tries to do boomerang on them every single time.
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He does it with his visibility. Okay, now it's going to be Christian Visibility Day. And what he's
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saying is, hey, we win this by coming out in tremendous numbers, you know, just, it doesn't,
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can't be just a victory. It needs to be an overwhelming victory. We come out and we, and we vote.
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And secondly, what he does, I mean, he did the same thing with the bloodbath, you know,
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thing. Now he's talking about Biden's border bloodbath. And we all have to learn how to do
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the same thing. Take what the other side does. They try to tag us with these words and these,
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these, these concepts and just boomerang it right back at them. Second thing too, he,
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in speaking about Christian Visibility Day, it's not only a question of we're going to show up to vote,
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but from the very beginning, even of his first campaign in 2015, he would be meeting with the
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pastors. And I was in some of those meetings and he would say, you know, I'm so grateful for all the
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support I'm getting from you. And, and, but I don't understand how come I'm not getting more explicit
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endorsements. And he was, he was informed that, you know, the churches are, are, are, and, and other
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tax exempt entities are limited by law in what they can do with political endorsements,
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the so-called Johnson amendment. And he said, that's crazy. It's, you should be able to speak
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your mind. So once he was elected, he took executive action to limit the impact of that
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so-called Johnson amendment. And we've got to ultimately get rid of that. But the point is
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beautiful words that he spoke that I repeat to the clergy all the time. He said, freedom of speech
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doesn't stop at the door of the church or the synagogue. You know, free, we, America needs to hear
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the voices of the clergy. And, and by extension, of course, he's saying America needs to hear the
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voices of the believers. Uh, and this president has done more to, to protect that kind of freedom
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than anyone else. In fact, I've gotten more encouragement in my preaching from Donald Trump
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than I have from a lot of the Catholic vishers. So, I mean, it's just exactly on the right track.
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Yeah. To that point, I, when you talk about, you know, the black churches, uh, the, the Marxist
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Dems in their churches, uh, whatever their, wherever they worship, uh, there's never a
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question about whether or not they'll lose their tax exemption. That's right. That's only on one side.
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And why I, what I don't understand is why that isn't just challenged straight up because this is
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the reality. We're facing evil incarnate, uh, in the Marxist Dems. It's a satanic party as Senator
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Tommy Tuberville, uh, said the other day. I mean, they are satanic. There is, you cannot look at a
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single policy that is in support of the American family, that is in support of the constitution,
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that is in support of the national interest of the very country that makes possible the freedom
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to act and behave as these, as these vicious venal fools do, these Marxist Dems.
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And, and to the point that you're making, you know, and I am always, uh, urging the church to
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speak more into the political realm. And sometimes people will say to me, oh, but the church is
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becoming too political. I say, no, no, that's not the problem. The problem is that our politics have
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become too pagan, which is what you're saying in other words, you know, there, there's obviously a
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truth to the fact that there's an autonomy and there's a distinction of mission between the church,
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which bears witness to the kingdom of God and the civil government, which is takes care of the
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political life here on this earth. But there is an intersection between the two, especially when
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the political realm starts attacking fundamental values and truths that the church proclaims.
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Yeah. Think about this. For example, we'll use the Catholic church as an example. It's not in,
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in politics. The heck it's not. Catholic charities are bringing in millions of illegal immigrants,
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which is against the law. It is also highly political and it's at the behest of the Marxist
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Dems who, who worship Satan. I mean, this is outrageous what we put up with.
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It's so true. It's so true. And if I could comment too, on this, on this, the satanic dimension that
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you've been bringing up, you know, a lot of these people will say, oh, but you know, I don't worship
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Satan. I, and some of them will even say, oh, I don't even believe in the devil. And you know
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what Lou, the devil doesn't care. The devil really doesn't even care if somebody believes in him or
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not, as long as they don't follow God. When somebody comes, you know, sometimes we see at some
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of these radical demonstrations, people will hold up signs that say, hail Satan. What they're actually
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saying is very simply, I can do what I want because that in itself is satanic in the sense that it's
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rebelling against the authority of God. God says, I am your God. You are my people. I am your Lord.
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Obey my commandments and you will live. Satan is say, I don't care about any commandments of God.
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I'm going to do what I want. As long as a person is saying, I'm going to do what I want. Devil
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couldn't care less whether they actually believe he's a living spiritual being or not. In fact, he is,
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but that's where you're completely right in saying, this is a satanic party in as much as it is
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throwing off what they consider shackles of commandments and truth and God. Shackles. In
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reality, those aren't shackles. That's the road to our freedom and fulfillment.
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And their rationalizations, their excuses are as always, they have no character. They are operating
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at the behest of Satan and for Satan. And they know it. They know it and they despise God, Jesus
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Christ, and every Christian in this country. And until people understand that, we're going to have
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an even tougher fight on our hands. And I thank you so much. I am so grateful to you for the fight that
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you carry into the arena every day. God bless you. And Father Frank Pavone, thanks so much for being
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with us here. You're a great American. Thank you, Lou. God bless you.
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That's it for us today. Thanks for being with us, Father Frank Pavone, one of the great Americans
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in the fight, as I said, every day battling, well, Marxist Dems, the fools on the left, the rhinos on the
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right, and oh yeah, the satanic Marxist Dems of the Democrat Party and Biden regime. Thanks for being