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The Marxist AG Merrick Garland wants Trump behind bars at any and all cost, and so far, the Republicans have allowed him and his Marxists to get away with it. Gerald Mayo is one of the youngest, black head coaches in the NFL.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to The Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs. Thank you for being with us.
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Marxist Attorney General Merrick Garland wants Trump behind bars. There's no other way to put it.
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Garland means to interfere with the 2024 presidential election at any and all cost.
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And so far, the Republicans have allowed him and his Marxists to get away with it.
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Garland this week talking with CNN claimed his indictments of President Trump have been done
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in a professional fashion, as he put it, and are by no means political.
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Look, we have reasserted and clarified the norms of this Justice Department.
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We follow the facts and the law wherever they lead. Politics is not a part of our determinations.
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It would be improper, and it's not. The Department has regulations about the appointment of special
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counsels, and we follow those regulations. In each case, we have appointed people who are
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formerly veteran career prosecutors, whatever their current position is.
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And they're sufficiently independent from you, you believe?
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Yes, and the regulations make them independent from me. So with respect to the public, I hope they
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will see, not only from what we've done, but from the outcomes of the cases and the way in which
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special counsel proceeded, that we have kept politics out of this.
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Garland, of course, is lying through his teeth, saying he's just following the facts. The facts are
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he's interfering with the 2024 presidential election. He's doing everything he can to block
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Donald Trump from the White House. Garland even said it out loud. Garland said he wants a speedy
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trial, no matter how close to the presidential election. The department has policies about
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steering clear of elections. Is there a date in your mind where it might be too late to bring these
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trials to fruition? Again, to stay out of the way of the elections as the department policies?
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Well, I just say, you know, what I said, which is that the cases were brought last year. Prosecutor
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has urged speedy trials, with which I agree. And this is now in the hands of the judicial system,
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not in our hands. Race and society. Our society racked with division over utter nonsense,
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in my opinion. The Marxist Dems pushing DEI and critical race theory when we all know better.
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All of us. Marxist Dems and Republicans, independents, we know better. Racial discrimination
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is bigotry out and out. We're either a colorblind society, or we're discriminating. Not only immoral,
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but against the law. Or at least, that is the ideal. Last week, the issue was vividly on display in
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the NFL. The New England Patriots hired a new head coach last week. His name is Gerald Mayo. And Mayo is
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one of the youngest head coaches in the NFL ever. The first black head coach for the Patriots. And Mayo,
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in his first press conference as head coach, had this to say about race.
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I do see color. Because I believe if you don't see color, you can't see racism. And whatever happens,
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black, white, disabled person. Even someone with disabilities, I always, you know, for the most part,
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people are like, you know, don't, you know, when they're young, they kind of make the spot hot.
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Younger people know what that means. But what I would say is, like, no, I want you to be able to
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go up to those people and really understand those people. So it goes back to whatever it is, black,
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white, yellow, it really doesn't matter. But it does matter. So we can try to fix a problem
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that we all know we have. So what exactly does the new Pat's head coach mean by that?
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It jarred me to hear what he said. What do you think? Colorblind or color conscious? Mayo isn't
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the only black coach in the NFL by any means. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they're in the playoffs this year.
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And head coach Todd Bowles has been the head coach for two years now. He has quite a different answer
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about race. And I think it's one that everyone should hear. You and Mike Tomlin are two of the
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few black head coaches in the league. I wonder what your relationship is like with them and your
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thoughts on Steve Wilks joining that fall. I have a very good relationship with Tomlin.
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We don't look at what color we are when we coach against each other. We just know each other. I have
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a lot of very good white friends that coach in this league as well. And I don't think it's a big deal
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as far as us being coaching against each other. I think it's normal. Wilks got an opportunity to do
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a good job. Hopefully he does it. And we coach ball. We don't look at color. But you also understand
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that representation matters too, right? And that when young aspiring coaches or even football players,
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they see you guys, you know, they see someone that looks like them, maybe grew up like them.
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That has to mean something. Well, when you say you see you guys and look like them and grow up like
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them, meaning that we're eyeballs to begin with. And I think the minute you guys stop making a big
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deal about it, everybody else will as well. So who's right, Mayo or Bowles? I hope Mayo
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learns from the guy I think is the class act of the NFL coaches, Todd Bowles and Go Bucks.
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I have to say, I think Congresswoman Elise Stefanik has become my favorite member of the House GOP
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leadership. New York Marxist Dem and Trust Fund Baby Congressman Dan Goldman is going after her.
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He brought a censure motion against the Congresswoman for supporting the January 6th
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hostages of the venal Marxist Dems like Goldman. He's a partisan snake and a liar through and through.
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Goldman doesn't like Stefanik because she refers to the January 6th political prisoners
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as hostages. Well, so do I. And I hope you do as well. Hostages of the Marxist Dems and the Biden
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regime. Pass it on. Hostages. Our guest today knows all about those January 6 hostages. He's the former
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chief of the Capitol Police, Stephen Sund, and he was chief of the Capitol Police on that day of protest
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and chaos on January 6th, 2021. Steve, great to have you with us. Thanks for being back. Let me ask
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you, do you think those folks who've been imprisoned by the Pelosi Marxist Dems should be called hostages?
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Are they hostages? What would you call these poor people who've been in jail for three years,
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at least some of them? Again, I think you look at it, I think it was a Democratic
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Democratic member of Congress, Dan Goldman, that called for her censorship. My belief is that's
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her prerogative. Again, she's a member of Congress, a U.S. citizen. You have the right to kind of say
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what you want. It's not like she called for anybody's violence against anyone. Matter of fact,
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she spoke against the violence that some of the rioters committed on January 6th. And I think this
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showcases what frustrates Americans across the country, the inability of Congress to even work
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together on the simplest things. I think when you ask me, what do I think of that term? I think,
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again, this goes back to the concern that people have of the disparate treatment that you're seeing
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committed against, you know, treated against different people. There's no rule of law
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in how the law is being applied to these folks. Yeah. Well, they're hostages. They're prisoners of war,
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an ideological war. And Dan Goldman, he is a disgusting and appalling activist who is behaving
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as ignorantly as any other one of the Marxist Dems who mean to destroy this country. Elise Stefanik,
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I think, deserves great courage for speaking up and calling these defendants who, many of whom have
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been in the Bureau of Prisons for three years without a trial, without even a trial date.
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The ignorance of this is just breathtaking. I think the Democrat Party and all of these Marxist Dems
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who run it should be censured because they are the ones responsible for those people still being in
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that prison and being there in the first place. I would like to see the Republicans bring censure
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motions against them. So we're here. We are three years later, Steve. And we've been talking about
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videos. And we had a speaker say that he was going to release the videos and he released a few.
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And now we have a new speaker. And he said he was going to release the videos and he released a few,
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but over 40,000 remain unseen. What is your view about what is being protected here? And we know by whom
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it's the congressional leaders and the Senate leaders and the administration. How do we get
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those videos released, do you think? Well, I think more and more of the videos are going to be
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released. I think eventually they're going to try and make all, I think, 44,000 hours of the videos,
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make them available. And I will tell you, I'm 100% behind the transparency of the investigation,
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release the videos. I think they had raised concerns about security measures on the Capitol
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being revealed through the videos. I think there's a limited, I mean, minutes maybe that they could
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redact if that is the concern. But when you hide things like this, this is where you get people to
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start coming up with their own narratives when people can't go in and see what's going on. You
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know, if right is right and wrong is wrong, if officers acted wrong, then it should be dealt with.
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But, you know, release the video because I feel people just keep coming up and
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determining their own narrative of what happened if they don't see what happened.
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Well, you know, you used to run that department. And I have to say, my view is if there is a security
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reason for not showing that video, I don't care what it is, pass a bill, spend some money, and then
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fix it after that. Because those people's lives are a hell of a lot more important than some
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nonsensical security concern by these people who are covering up. The American people know what's
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going on here. It's a cover up. They're stonewalling. And the Republicans now are complicit because Kevin
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McCarthy and Mike Johnson haven't done what they said they do. And their lives that could be changed
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as a result of this. And by the way, I think it would show that we saw a vast number of incidents
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where the protesters were protecting other protesters from cops who had lost it. And they were under a
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press. I certainly understand that. And I'm not asking for charges to be brought against those police
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officers. But I'm sure as hell asking that these people be freed from jail for what they did that
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day. This is ignorance. And it's un-American, don't you think?
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Again, I think when you look at the, we had talked about the security features, I think that's
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something that could be easily redacted without taking away the importance of the individual piece
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of video. So, you know, to your point, I think that can be released. And where it needs to be released
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for either prosecutorial or defense material, it should be done so. But I do think that the American
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people need to be able to see stuff that went on, how things were handled up there. And again,
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I think I'm hoping Speaker Johnson will release more. I'm all in favor. I know he's talking about
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there's going to be a big push for getting behind what really happened on January 6th. And I hope
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that is the case. I've pushed for that since day one, because something just didn't feel right.
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Yeah. And, you know, there's something I want to point out to everybody at this point.
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I've asked that leaders in this country come together and stop this nonsense. This is the
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chief justice could do immense good here, interceding because of the judicial proceedings,
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the bureau of prisons, all of this related to the judiciary. And he is the ultimate force in the
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American judiciary. But what about all of the national news media? Think about this. The New York Times,
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the Washington Post, NBC News, ABC News, all of the cable news networks, all of the major city
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newspapers. Why haven't they come together in outrage and said, free the prisoners, free these
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hostages of the Marxist Dems? Why would there not be? Why in the world haven't all of the churches
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come together and said, free these people? It's ignorance and it's madness, it's brutality. It is
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barbaric. And this country has to do better. We have seen none of that. Steve, your sense as a
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former police officer and in leadership, why in the world are we permitting such an atrocity in your
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view? You know, again, looking back in my law enforcement experience, I haven't been especially
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specifically in Washington, D.C. for 30 years. I can tell you, I've seen and heard about cases where
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you had significant violence, that people were released pretrial, people were diverted from
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prosecution. And I think, again, it just goes to the frustration that people have of what you're
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seeing as a disparate treatment. Why people don't come together, I think, again, you're not going
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to see it in some of the media, because I think a lot of the media doesn't meet their narrative.
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Yeah, it doesn't meet their narrative. And may they, well, I'll be kind. I'm not wishing great
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things for the national media. We're talking with Stephen Sund. We're coming right back,
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the former chief of the Capitol Police. We will return right after these quick words. Stay with us.
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We're back. We're talking with Stephen Sund. He's the former chief of Capitol Police,
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a great American. He was an eyewitness to history over that period, and I'm sure much of his career.
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We're talking with Stephen Sund. And Stephen, I want to ask the House investigation into what
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really happened on January 6th. We're told it's entering a new phase. Speaker Johnson apparently
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supports it. Why is everything moving in slow motion? How can we freeze in time these over a thousand
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lives? They're being treated barbarically. We know today that they've turned off the heat to the
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prison, some of them, most of them perhaps. This is just barbaric treatment, and we're all a party to it
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because both parties have done nothing. As I said, the national media has done nothing. The courts have
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done nothing. I've never felt so helpless in my life over an obvious, an obvious injustice.
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So, again, we see Johnson, Speaker Johnson, taking this into a new area. I've been down there. I've
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talked to some of the new committees that are down there. I went down. I testified for my second time
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in public. The first time was in February 2021. The second time, I think, was September 2023,
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public testimony. I've done everything I can to get the truth of what I saw were the institutional
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failings that contributed to January 6th out there as quickly as possible, whether it was
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in testimony, whether it was in the book. And I will say, you know, at least Congress, and things
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do move at glacier speed. And when people's lives are on stake, that's unacceptable. And when you look
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at it, you know, I'm happy Congress has gone and changed some laws based on my testimony, but
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Well, as you say, Washington, D.C. is, it is a swamp. It is a cesspool, whatever you want to call it.
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But the stench is so strong, I think people should be moving faster so they can avoid it.
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I have to say the frustration to see that they're investigating now January 6th. We know what
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happened. We know that this was an outrageous injustice perpetrated by the Marxist Dems. We
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know that the courts over-sentenced hundreds of Americans who were overcharged to begin with.
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And we know the Capitol Police and other agencies were there. Give us your sense about the claims that
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there were at least 200 FBI agents there on ghost buses or, you know, whatever, however they were
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transported. How likely is it that the number was that high?
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You know, I've heard that number recently, and I think he'd, I'm trying to remember the
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representative that had brought up something about ghost buses. I had not seen or heard anything
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prior to that about ghost buses. I think he said they were dropping off over by Union Station.
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It's not uncommon for the various agencies, whether it's Secret Service, FBI, some of the
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other law enforcement agencies, to have someone to cover in crowds when you have big events.
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But when you're starting to hear some of the things coming out where people were enticing
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members in the crowd to get into the building, to do different things like that, that becomes
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very, very concerning, especially for my position as the chief.
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Right. Well, I think people should know. Steve Sutton told me in our first interview,
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he said that he didn't get the intelligence from any of the agencies on the, before the day of
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January 6th, leading, either leading up to it or the day of. Have you ever found out why you were,
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No. And that's one of the things I want the investigations to find. What exactly happened?
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Why was it? Was it just because of stupidity or was there a malicious intent to keep that
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intelligence away from anybody so we wouldn't have a more robust response? When you look at it,
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and now we're, like you said, we're three years into this, four congressional reports have come
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out and every single one of those has indicated this is an intelligence failure. What I've said from
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day one, if we had had that intelligence, we would have had more officers, mutual aid,
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National Guard, unarmed. All I wanted was unarmed National Guard when I asked for them on January
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3rd, but unarmed National Guard and a bigger fence. We wouldn't be here today if I'd gotten that. If I'd
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gotten the intelligence and we'd gotten the resources that we needed, we wouldn't be here.
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Maybe you just answered the question. They didn't, they wanted that day to occur just as it
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unspooled because, you know, every other explanation doesn't add up.
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Uh, that is the only one because Pelosi was in clear charge. Uh, she was clearly in the know.
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Uh, I assume Schumer was as well, but we know Pelosi was, uh, we know that the top leadership was,
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and we know full well, uh, that the Capitol police, uh, all of the agencies that were there
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represented. And I understand that there are at least three other agencies, the, uh,
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including the FBI. I'm sorry. What did you say, Steve? D.C. police. Right. And, and, and, uh,
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uh, the FBI, and I believe the ATF as well, but, um, so we know this is a spectacular
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piece of theater, at least in part, because we did see officers on those videotapes waving people
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into the Capitol. We saw, uh, what's his name? Uh, the, uh, uh, Epps, Ray Epps, telling people
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we're going to the Capitol and, and then getting, getting a free pass. This is just outrageous.
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And, and now Judicial Watch has filed, filed a wrongful death claim against Lieutenant Michael Byrd,
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who sent out a, uh, a phony shots have been fired message a minute after he pulled the trigger
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and killed, uh, in my opinion, murdered, uh, Ashley Babbitt. Uh, your, your thoughts.
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Uh, again, as far as it involves the, um, the, the actions of Byrd, you got to understand I was
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literally removed from my position the very next day. Um, Speaker Pelosi went on national TV,
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called for me by name, uh, to be removed. Uh, I was removed. I actually had set up a transition
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period so I could at least do a, a transition with whoever's going to be acting chief. And they
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removed me within hours of setting that up. Uh, so I had no involvement of whatever the
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investigations were or whatever, uh, information has come out internally, um, for that. So I just
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don't want to give an un, uh, uneducated, uh, answer on you for you. Well, I, I think it's a very
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uneducated answer that you just gave that because you're trying to do the right thing. That wasn't
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in the interest of the power structure of the house of representatives, was it?
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Well, it seemed kind of odd that they were so quick to, to have me removed, especially
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if they had just gone and looked and seen on January 3rd days in advance, I'd ask for assistance,
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the national guard. I, I'm the only chief of police in the United States of America. And I think your
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audience will get a kick out of this that has to go to the Capitol police board and get approval
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from congressional leadership to bring in federal resources, which I did on January 3rd and was
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denied. And even on January 6th, when we were under attack, think about it. The attack started
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at 1253 on the West front. It took 81 minutes before they broke the first window of the, uh,
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of the Capitol for 71 of those minutes. I repeatedly was calling the Capitol police board. Can I bring
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in federal asking for permission? Can I bring in federal assistance and repeatedly being denied
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even while we're under attack? And who would have been making that decision?
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Uh, that decision was being made, uh, ultimately by, uh, Paul Irving, Speaker Pelosi's, um, uh,
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house Sergeant arms, uh, Mike Stanger, who is the chairman of the Capitol police board was
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kept referring to, uh, my, um, uh, Mike Stanger, I'm sorry, kept referring to Paul Irving to get his
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answer, uh, and kept waiting. So ultimately, uh, it was Paul Irving. He said, he's going to run it up
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the chain, get right back to me. And he didn't give me an answer for 71 minutes, despite repeated
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phone calls, asking, you know, literally begging for the approval. We're talking with Steve Sun,
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a former Capitol police chief. We're going to talk about Michael Byrd, why the man, why the man
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never was held accountable for his actions on that day. We're coming right back. Stay with us.
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We're back with the former Capitol police chief, uh, Steven Sund and Steve, I want to turn to the
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issue of Michael Byrd here. He fired point blank range with a handgun that he had already drawn,
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uh, with his, and obviously pulled the trigger, uh, as she came through the, uh, the, the window of
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the partition. Uh, but she also went, went by five or six other officers. And there were two or three
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officers in front of Lieutenant Byrd that he fired basically around, uh, they were in harm's way as,
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as he fired. No one else drew a weapon, let alone fired it. What in the world? Why was there no report
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of this? Why didn't he file a report? Can you speculate? No, when you say there no, no report of
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this, anytime there's a use of force, uh, lethal use of forces, there's going to be an investigation
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of some sort that's going to take place again, like I just mentioned, um, a couple of minutes ago,
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I was removed within hours of, uh, of January 6th ending. So I didn't have, uh, don't have any
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insight into what exactly what went on investigation, but anytime there's a lethal use of force by a law
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enforcement officer, there's going to be an investigation both by the internal affairs, but
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also by, if it's, if it's a, um, when that results in injury or death, the, uh, U S attorney's office
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for the district of Columbia is going to be involved, uh, in that investigation as well. Uh,
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and Washington DC police almost forgot because they investigate every, every homicide, the shooting
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would have been declared a homicide cause it wasn't a suicide. Uh, and while it was investigated,
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then determined if it was a justified use of force. Uh, but again, I had, uh, no role in that,
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uh, investigation. So I don't have any additional to provide on.
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So you're saying somebody ruled it, uh, justified use of force.
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Well, if, um, again, if they finished up and I'd have to go back and look, cause I think DOJ
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ultimately did come out and cleared, uh, Michael Byrd for it. So it would have been declared a,
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Does the, does the, does the shooter usually fill out a report?
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It, um, it, it may, it may vary, but there's usually going to be a report and investigation,
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No, no, but I mean, does he, the shoot, Lieutenant Byrd, he was the shooter.
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Uh, doesn't he have to put in a report, a record of the, uh, of the incident?
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Uh, anytime there's usually a use of force report, there's going to be a report, but when
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it's a lethal use of force report, sometimes, um, they'll wait till they get their attorney
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But there, there should have been some type of, uh, use of force, uh, investigation.
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And they, it wouldn't even release his name for over a month. I believe it was over a month.
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Uh, and we found out his name was Michael Byrd, uh, sort of, uh, not in any official announcement
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or document. Uh, we also then subsequently learned that he was, uh, secreted by obviously the Capitol
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police and, uh, one assumes, uh, the, uh, uh, the administration, uh, in some form, uh, a way
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to joint base Andrews, uh, for, for a month, uh, at taxpayer expense.
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I mean, for we was in that joint force base for six months at taxpayer expense after killing Ashley
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Babbitt, uh, who would, who have you got any idea as to why they would do that? That doesn't sound
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like the American way, does it? Yeah, no, I, um, I've, I've only heard, I've heard about it. Uh,
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but no, I have no idea who, who would have made that decision, uh, would have been fairly high level,
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uh, for that, that decision or the reasons behind it. But yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's disgusting.
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And do you think that that shooting, uh, and your response to it is a part of the reason that you
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were, uh, moved out? Um, I, uh, to be honest with you, I have no idea. Do you have any idea why you
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were? Well, I was moved out. Yeah. You know, I just found it odd that when I was moved out and
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immediately there was a concern, it could be intelligence failure. And it's turned out that,
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you know, like I said, four reports and people repeatedly, even the current chief that's in there now,
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Tom manger, uh, is in a hearing saying, absolutely. It was an intelligence failure yet. Um, I was
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replaced by the chief of intelligence, uh, in a acting capacity. So it's, I just find it odd.
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They, you know, intelligence is always a, uh, a concern. It was definitely concerned on January 6th.
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I'm immediately removed. And they put the, uh, assistant chief in charge of intelligence, uh,
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as the acting chief of police. Um, yeah. So let me ask you this. Uh, how many people do you think
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were there on January 6th demonstrating marching? Um, and when you say, you know, on capital grounds?
00:29:23.020
And yes, yes. Um, you know, again, it would be a, uh, a guesstimate. I think, uh, one of the, uh,
00:29:31.900
colleges, I'm trying to think which one it was, did a, a study at the west front. And I think at one
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point said there's approximately 30,000 people at one time on the, uh, on the west front at, at its height.
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Uh, so I don't, I don't know. I suspect it'd be somewhere in north of that.
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So I guess my question is how much intelligence would your superiors have needed to know that
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with that crush of people and that few officers, that they would be risking, uh, a injury, uh, to,
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to the demonstrators themselves, uh, by that kind of massing of people, why would they not just out of
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common sense, taking any help they could for, uh, crowd control? That is, that's a,
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I would have to say that was an unprecedented crowd for, for the Capitol police to deal with. Am I wrong?
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Again, that was a crowd that, that occurred after, you know, while January 6th was, was, was, uh,
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occurring, but to your, your point, when you now find out and, you know, I, I, uh, talked about it
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in my interview with, uh, Tucker Carlson, uh, and I wrote somewhat about it in the, um, interview was,
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um, I mean, my book was the fact that even the Department of Defense had such significant
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intelligence. They were so concerned about January 6th that they talked about shutting down the city,
00:30:53.420
restricting the city's access to the city, uh, and, uh, revoking the permits for, uh, any activity
00:30:59.980
on Capitol Hill. I'm the one that issues those permits. They never talked to me about that.
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They never shared their concerns with me yet. What did they do? They prevented the National
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Guard for responding. Even once we got approval for four and a half hours, the New Jersey state
00:31:13.180
police beat the DC National Guard there. Do you believe there was a conspiracy to create
00:31:19.260
the chaos that was January 6th? I think there's a, and again, um, I think it gets really odd.
00:31:26.860
It's not a big stretch for people who begin to wonder why did, was the intelligence so screwed up?
00:31:31.780
You know, why was I denied in advance? Why was I removed so quickly? Why was I denied for 71 minutes
00:31:37.880
while we're under attack? I mean, one of the most visible, you know, people are watching that on TV.
00:31:42.180
Anybody in their right mind could have said, yeah, well, let's bring in some resources. Um,
00:31:45.780
you know, thank goodness we had DC police not far away, but, um, yeah,
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I don't think it takes, takes much for someone to think there's, uh, there's some definitely
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weird stuff going on behind the scenes. Well, Steve, son, we're always give you the,
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our guests, the last word, uh, your, your thoughts as we conclude. Thanks for being here,
00:32:02.380
by the way. I enjoy the conversation again. So, so do I, again, I think it goes back to the level
00:32:07.740
of frustration that you're seeing across the United States right now. It comes from,
00:32:10.820
you know, all these people sat back and witnessed the mostly peaceful protest of 2020,
00:32:15.540
the attack on the white house, May 30th through June 1st. Uh, that was a terrible, vicious attack.
00:32:21.420
Uh, it's something that, that I talk about in my book, DC police, a police agency formed by
00:32:26.700
Congress specifically for the protection of the president was, was prevented from responding
00:32:31.600
to help protect the Trump white house. Yet you look at what just happened June 13th,
00:32:35.880
you had the pro-Palestinian protest take place. They start tearing down part of the exterior
00:32:41.060
anti-scale offense. DC police immediately allowed in to help support the secret service. When people
00:32:48.340
see that and they don't feel the rule of law and equal treatment of people, it just creates the big
00:32:53.220
frustrations that I think is contributing to what's going on in America right now. People are just
00:32:57.300
extremely frustrated. And I, and I wonder sometimes, is that not, uh, the handiwork of the Marxist
00:33:04.540
Dems, uh, they mean for us to get, uh, get frustrated. Uh, and I think they do want the
00:33:10.560
country destabilized. Uh, Stephen Sun, thanks so much for being with us. I look forward to talking
00:33:15.020
with you soon. Uh, come back soon if you would. Thank you very much for the time. Thanks everybody
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