The Great America Show - CRITICAL RINO THEORY

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.200 And now, here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.660 Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Great America Show.

00:00:18.300 There's rising concern among many Americans that our two-party political system

00:00:23.240 has become the problem rather than the solution.

00:00:26.480 How do many of us explain the mental state of our president,

00:00:31.000 who seems often confused and bewildered to the point he sometimes needs help to enter a room or leave it?

00:00:38.640 One day denies he has a plan to give illegal immigrants more than four times as much money

00:00:44.040 as the federal government would give to the families of service members killed in combat.

00:00:49.780 How do any of us explain the Republican Party that has campaigned against socialism for decades

00:00:55.560 and then 13 House Republicans give President Biden the votes needed to pass his runaway spending plan?

00:01:04.340 A question now, will Republicans ever challenge unimpaired but obviously committed radical dem by the name of Biden?

00:01:12.840 And why is the Republican Party tolerating the big tech and social media assault

00:01:18.240 on the Republican Party itself and on many of our basic freedoms?

00:01:24.900 Journalist, author, and documentarian Lee Smith understands partisan politics

00:01:29.940 and the deep state's ever-expanding power better than almost any journalist now working.

00:01:36.040 Lee Smith is the best-selling author of The Plot Against the President,

00:01:40.660 the story of the biggest political scandal in U.S. history,

00:01:43.780 made into a documentary directed by Amanda Millis.

00:01:48.320 Lee is a veteran journalist working for 30 years covering politics, foreign policy, and even media.

00:01:55.400 And now, as promised, here is Lee Smith.

00:01:59.400 Lee, great to have you with us here.

00:02:01.060 And as always, you're a great American.

00:02:04.620 And the service you do for this great nation is remarkable.

00:02:10.120 And the country's in your debt.

00:02:12.260 So we're doubly honored that you're here with us today.

00:02:16.000 Let's begin, if we may, with what in the world...

00:02:19.700 I just want to say, Lou, that was such a kind introduction.

00:02:23.560 And it's really, I mean, it's really an honor that you invited me on your new podcast.

00:02:29.800 And I wish you all great success with it.

00:02:33.660 And I know it's not only going to be a great success for you,

00:02:37.020 but for all of us who've been depending on your voice for all these many years

00:02:41.680 and for the country as a whole.

00:02:43.460 So again, thanks so much for having me on, and congratulations.

00:02:46.360 This is so exciting.

00:02:47.700 Well, thank you.

00:02:48.220 And thank you for those generous words.

00:02:50.400 I want to begin with the nation's capital itself.

00:02:54.800 The Biden agenda is unfurling.

00:02:57.900 The Biden approval ratings are disapproval ratings, down to 42%.

00:03:04.040 More than 70% of the country in the most recent polling says this country is headed in the wrong direction.

00:03:12.640 But we have political prisoners being held in cells in Washington, D.C., without comment,

00:03:19.220 without action by the Republican Party or by law enforcement or courts.

00:03:25.080 I want to get Lee Smith's view of the capital of the United States itself today, 2021.

00:03:35.960 Yeah.

00:03:36.640 I mean, the way that I've seen this for, I mean, I've seen since the COVID lockdowns and then with the George Floyd riots,

00:03:44.760 the way that I've seen it is I've seen that the progressive elites, the oligarchy, however, in whatever ways you want to understand them or describe them,

00:03:55.840 they've been running a campaign of desecration against the United States.

00:04:00.160 I mean, against American symbols, whether it's the flag or whether it's different monuments.

00:04:05.440 Now we see they've removed Thomas Jefferson's statue from New York City, the desecration of the flag, the desecration of American holidays, July 4th.

00:04:18.560 And it's a campaign of desecration and demoralization.

00:04:21.720 And I think this is part of what we're seeing here.

00:04:24.140 So in addition to the various, various, various destructive policies, we're also seeing a larger thrust.

00:04:33.780 It's a campaign of psychological warfare.

00:04:37.500 And this is what this is what occupying powers do to destroy the countries, the nations, the people that they've occupied.

00:04:47.900 So frankly, that's how I understand it, that this is an occupation regime that is not governing on behalf of American citizens.

00:04:55.840 And we've seen this from the beginning of the Biden administration.

00:05:01.480 The first thing they do is they turn off the Keystone pipeline and the results are not surprising.

00:05:08.280 It's not only the price of gas that's going up, but everything else.

00:05:11.420 So, again, that's how I see it, not just in terms of policy, but in terms of a campaign of psychological warfare against at least half the country.

00:05:21.140 That psychological warfare is kinetic, if you will, because we are watching a lot of Americans, millions of Americans,

00:05:29.920 who can't afford to see gas prices rise much beyond this level, that can't afford hyperinflation.

00:05:38.700 We're approaching, in some cases, double digits, depending on the index or the measure or gauge that the economists or the Federal Reserve wants to use.

00:05:49.340 But these numbers are getting significant.

00:05:52.160 And by significant, I mean capable of really disrupting the economy and dislocating the lives of millions of Americans.

00:06:02.520 And right now, the Republican Party is entertaining Joe Biden's demand for that $1.75 trillion spending bill.

00:06:13.200 And this is a man who is visibly impaired, he is visibly frail, and he is visibly confused as a leader and, in many ways, simply lost your thoughts.

00:06:27.980 Yeah, I mean, I think that this is terrible.

00:06:31.380 And I think that we're not just talking about the America First Movement, American patriots or Republicans.

00:06:38.080 I think that a lot of the country right now, a lot of the country right now sees that their only political instrument is the Republican Party.

00:06:46.020 Like it or not, it's the only political instrument that we have.

00:06:49.900 I mean, and the fact that they've stepped aside, the fact that many of these things, the fact that many of these things have happened,

00:06:58.640 and oftentimes without a protest, or something more like a chuckle.

00:07:02.380 I mean, and we can understand what the political strategy must be.

00:07:06.600 It's something like, well, let Biden and the Democrats run the country into the ground.

00:07:11.960 And by midterms, 2022, the American people, they won't even be looking at our track record.

00:07:18.100 All they'll need is to know that we're the option to Biden.

00:07:21.540 That's all they have.

00:07:23.260 It's disgraceful because, I mean, as a political strategy, of course, it will work.

00:07:27.620 And you see them looking at polls.

00:07:29.320 You see them talking about polls.

00:07:30.900 You see them talking about the destruction that Biden is causing.

00:07:33.840 But where are the necessary, where are the necessary interventions?

00:07:40.480 Why won't they even stand up for important things like the January 6th detainees?

00:07:46.480 We have political prisoners now in this country, and the Republican Party is nowhere to be found on this.

00:07:53.760 It is truly stunning, is it not, to think that the Biden administration is getting away with what you style as psychological warfare.

00:08:04.400 It is certainly warfare on American institutions and the opposing political party, in this instance, the Republican Party.

00:08:14.160 And we can argue about the degree to which it successfully opposes the Biden administration and the fascist left in this country.

00:08:22.940 They seem inert and defeat when trying to deal with those challenges, but to not even raise a hand of protest against detaining American citizens, many of whom have not been charged yet.

00:08:37.360 And none of whom, as of the last, my last and best information, has been charged with, quote, unquote, insurrection.

00:08:46.040 Right. None of these cases can possibly match the insane rhetoric that's been coming out of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, D.C., that has been coming out of the press.

00:09:02.480 Because the whole idea that it was an insurrection or that it's sedition is absolute nonsense.

00:09:08.620 And the more video and the more actual reporting we have regarding January 6th and the aftermath and the involvement of American intelligence services, now we're getting a much better picture of the things that are going on.

00:09:23.500 And again, the fact that the fact that the Republican Party will not step up to even defend their own base, people who went out there in support of the Republican president.

00:09:37.720 I mean, it's absolutely amazing.

00:09:40.760 There's one there's another way that I think, though, in addition to protests, there's another way I think that will certainly political officials are political officials, but also other leaders as well.

00:09:54.460 I think it's possible for people to take leadership positions by encouraging the American people.

00:10:00.100 Again, if this is a campaign of demoralization and desecration, the way to fight back is to say what they're doing is terrible.

00:10:07.200 But believe me, this is a strong, powerful country.

00:10:10.280 We are a great nation.

00:10:11.880 We're a great people.

00:10:13.340 And we have just begun to fight.

00:10:16.200 And we are going to get through this together because this nation is resilient.

00:10:20.560 This nation is beautiful.

00:10:22.100 Look at the people who are standing up now, whether they're airline pilots or whether they're doctors and nurses or New York City firefighters, New York City policemen.

00:10:31.840 They're all fighting against the authoritarian strictures of this insane regime.

00:10:37.160 And what a beautiful country and what a beautiful people.

00:10:40.480 And we're all going to fight this together.

00:10:43.040 That's the other thing I think we need to hear.

00:10:45.440 We need to hear this message of unity.

00:10:47.800 We need to hear a message of hopefulness because of their campaign is to demoralize and distress Americans.

00:10:54.480 And where's the encouragement?

00:10:56.500 We need to get out there and start speaking on behalf of the American people.

00:11:01.080 Remind them of who they are.

00:11:02.760 Remind them of the things we've gone through together and the accomplishments, our achievements, and what we will continue to do in the future.

00:11:10.880 Yeah, Lee, I couldn't agree with you more.

00:11:14.600 By the way, this new podcast of ours is called The Great America Show for a reason.

00:11:22.100 This nation is great.

00:11:23.600 And I know that President Trump, who is a friend and whom I support fully over the course of years, I know he wants to make a slogan now of make America great again.

00:11:34.120 But I truly believe that what he achieved has reestablished our greatness, and I applaud what you're saying, because this country is great, and we're going to remind everyone who joins this podcast, everyone in this audience, of that fact every day.

00:11:54.140 This is not a time for any patriot in this country to give up on our future, to give up on those patriots who need our help, and not to accept the fascist left and their nonsense, their irrationality, and their absurdity as acceptable political constructs

00:12:20.780 that somehow would challenge the founding values of the greatest democratic republic in history.

00:12:27.640 Right.

00:12:28.400 You see the different responses that are being forced by their campaign of demoralization and desecration, and the responses are what?

00:12:37.000 The responses are, oh, it looks like we're going to fall into a civil war.

00:12:40.620 It looks like maybe we need a big national divorce, and we need to split and do this and that. 1.00

00:12:44.520 No, we have to remember, it's a very small fraction.

00:12:47.060 We're not talking about 75 million Democrats. 0.96

00:12:51.480 Yes, a lot of them are lunatics, but we're speaking about a very small percentage of people. 0.95

00:12:56.500 Most people in this country don't want a break, right? 0.71

00:12:59.460 Most people in this country can and will find a way, as we have in the past, to embrace each other and to have decent arguments about the direction our country is going in, which should be worked out through elections.

00:13:11.620 So they're forcing people on our side to come up with extreme ideas, and they're forcing them into terrible psychological and intellectual states.

00:13:23.420 We need to be calm.

00:13:24.640 We need to be clear.

00:13:25.660 We need to project confidence because that's who the American people are.

00:13:29.880 These are people who have walked through fire.

00:13:32.040 We are a people who have walked through fire for 250 years.

00:13:36.420 And so what if we're doing it again?

00:13:38.800 What a blessing that we are people who are chosen to live through this time and guide our country through this period.

00:13:45.940 What an amazing thing, and what an amazing show.

00:13:49.020 And what an amazing challenge we face, all the more so because of what we confront in big tech, the efforts of big tech to establish an authoritarian presence that would command our American society, American values, our culture.

00:14:13.240 And with social media, and with social media, decide which voices are to be heard and which voices silenced.

00:14:21.240 And you recently wrote, I just think, a terrific article on the Facebook Whistleblower Op.

00:14:30.540 Publication date, November 1st.

00:14:32.960 And I recommend it to everyone in tablet mag and I'm sure available across the entire web by now.

00:14:42.440 The idea that Facebook, or should I say Metha today, could actually carry off an extraordinary, in my opinion, PSYOP's operation with a whistleblower and succeed even as she appears before the United States Congress and Senate.

00:15:10.460 It's stunning stuff.

00:15:13.700 And for the national news media to miss much of what you reported in your article.

00:15:19.640 I want your thoughts first on the power of Facebook and what you are witnessing, what we're all witnessing today.

00:15:28.760 Well, I mean, the astonishing thing was that her Senate testimony, and one of the points I make is that, I mean, of all the people, of all the billions of Facebook users across the world, some of the members of the Republican Senate might have known that Facebook is not for young people.

00:15:48.880 So her whole thing about protecting teenagers and protecting kids is nonsense. 1.00

00:15:53.200 It's used by old people, or older people.

00:15:57.020 And that's why there's so much engagement with conservative news and conservative reports on Facebook.

00:16:03.160 So she, this woman, Frances Haugen, is at the head of an operation to attack what is now, at any rate, virtually the hub of conservative communications.

00:16:17.720 That's not by choice, of course.

00:16:19.320 It's not like Mark Zuckerberg is a conservative or he's interested in America first news.

00:16:26.600 It just happens to be their financial model.

00:16:29.160 But Zuckerberg's peers want to shut this down in preparation for elections.

00:16:34.120 This has been their game.

00:16:35.760 This has been their campaign for many years now to censor news, to censor information that is damaging to the Democratic Party, censor information that is important for American voters to have, whether it's about Hunter Biden's laptop, whether it's about the nonsense of the Russiagate operation.

00:17:02.740 It's what we've seen, again, since at least 2016 is a series of information operations, psychological warfare waged against Donald Trump, Donald Trump aides, cabinet members, and Donald Trump supporters.

00:17:19.700 The Facebook operation is in that, as part of that series of information operations run against Trump, his supporters, and the American public.

00:17:30.700 And everyone listening to our voices, should not mistake the result of what Lee's talking about, it was success.

00:17:43.800 It's a successful operation.

00:17:45.980 Facebook has pulled off an extraordinary PR pivot, renaming the company itself, staying with the name Facebook,

00:17:54.340 but basically incorporating this whistleblower, Frances Haugen, and her claims about the need to protect young people in what is, as Lee points out, demographically oriented to older people, older demographics.

00:18:12.180 And with that, there's sort of, if you will, a washing of hands and an expression of concern about young people and protecting them, and meanwhile, ignoring what has been psychological warfare, information warfare, and control of dissent within Facebook itself.

00:18:35.220 And users, and users, conservative users, have been the victims throughout.

00:18:40.200 Fair statement?

00:18:41.700 Yeah, they're trying to, I mean, again, they're trying to shut us up.

00:18:46.340 They're trying to, and if you look, I mean, one of the things I talk about in that article is a Pew Research poll, I believe, from August.

00:18:52.720 And they poll Democrats, 76% of whom believe that big tech should be engaging in censorship, even if that stems the flow of legitimate information.

00:19:08.680 So we're, I mean, it's amazing.

00:19:09.920 What I refer to as the Obama faction, the Obama faction actually believes in censorship.

00:19:15.240 So this is, this is an enormous problem that we have to face.

00:19:20.960 And another thing that we have to do is, I think we have to teach, we have to teach people how to understand what we used to call the news media.

00:19:29.240 That now it's a platform for operations to promote, to promote the interests of the progressive elite, which means targeting the rest of the country.

00:19:40.000 So there's, there's, there's a, there's a lot of important, a lot of important and vital work for us to do in the, in the coming years.

00:19:49.000 And I realize for some in, in the audience, this may be heavy going because there are details, but they're important details.

00:19:58.340 And if you'll be patient with us, because Lee Smith puts together a, a level of connection amongst those elites to which he is referring to whom he's referring.

00:20:11.160 And I think draws a bright, bold diagram.

00:20:15.200 Talk about Bill Burton, the person who is driving, who was driving this particular part of the element.

00:20:23.920 The, if you will, the incestuous relationship back to the democratic party, to the fascist left.

00:20:32.920 And oh yes, we can even bring in, as you did, our, our, our good left-wing friends, Eric Holder and one Barack Obama.

00:20:45.200 Barack Obama.

00:20:45.800 The, what, to me, the most interesting thing about this Facebook whistleblower operation, as, as we're calling it, is, is that it help illuminates a lot of other operations that have been run the last five years, right?

00:21:01.920 So Bill Burton is a former, uh, Obama White House deputy, uh, press secretary.

00:21:07.340 Right now he's running a large, uh, Democrat-linked consultancy out of Washington, D.C.

00:21:14.200 His wife works with Eric Holder, right?

00:21:16.940 Eric Holder is, uh, was, was Obama's, uh, shield bearer, but what, what, what did he call himself?

00:21:22.520 His wingman, right?

00:21:24.160 But we see all these different people as part of this operation, and again, they're targeting, they're targeting conservatives, they're targeting, uh, American patriots, the America First movement, uh, that, that's who they're going after.

00:21:38.340 This has been going on again since 2016.

00:21:40.460 So we see Barack Obama and Eric Holder show up here, also, uh, Pierre Omidyar, the billionaire founder of eBay, and so again, this is a standard operation for them.

00:21:54.660 Big tech, big tech money, political operatives, and a campaign of, this is corporate espionage.

00:22:01.300 We've seen other instances of espionage, like Christopher Steele with Russiagate.

00:22:05.880 We saw in the first impeachment of, uh, President Trump, we saw CIA analyst Eric Chiaramella and Alexander Vindman engaging in a campaign of espionage against Donald Trump.

00:22:19.540 So we see all these different, we see all these, from within the White House, from within the White House.

00:22:24.200 Right, within the White House, exactly.

00:22:26.620 They're in, they're in the White House.

00:22:29.020 So we see all these different elements, and these elements, the more and more we pay attention to them, and I know you're right.

00:22:35.600 It's a little, it's a little detailed, it's, you know, it's a, it's a little detailed, but I do hope that readers and that your audience will stick with it, because it's really important, I think, for us to figure out what's going on.

00:22:50.540 This is actually how, you know, I, I worked a lot in the Middle East.

00:22:54.300 I wrote about Middle East affairs and U.S. Middle East policy.

00:22:57.600 And tragically, our press has become like the Arab press, right? 1.00

00:23:03.020 It's a platform for information operations run by oligarchs and spy services.

00:23:10.180 Unfortunately, tragically, this is what's happened to our press, but it's so important, I think, for, for, for readers to understand this, that that's what the press is being used for now.

00:23:21.860 So that's why I hope that, that readers will look at this piece, and that the more and more elements that are becoming highlighted, we understand who's doing what, and for what purposes.

00:23:33.840 They're using the, what was the press to come after us.

00:23:37.040 And if, as, as Lee talks about the Middle East, I have to ask you, at what point in the summer of 2020, with Antifa, Black Lives Matter, the, the riots that were taking place that were being called protests by Nancy Pelosi, of course.

00:23:57.160 At what point did you think, this is starting to look like the Arab street, not mainstream America?

00:24:07.940 And it's no accident.

00:24:09.780 It was no accident, was it?

00:24:12.140 Right.

00:24:12.600 No, absolutely.

00:24:13.940 I mean, these are, these are in the same way that Hezbollah in Lebanon, I lived in Beirut for several years, in the same way that Hezbollah serves the interests of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

00:24:26.420 It's the, you know, it's the long arm of Iran inside of Lebanon. 0.99

00:24:30.780 I mean, these different, I mean, BLM and Antifa, these are Democratic Party militias, which was quite clear.

00:24:37.700 I mean, they boasted about it.

00:24:39.540 On the ActBlue website, they had, you know, they would direct you to BLM, and it went the other way, too.

00:24:49.120 Hit the BLM website, and it takes you to ActBlue.

00:24:51.700 So these are quite clearly Democratic Party militias.

00:24:55.340 And one of the, one of the insane things is, if you look at the way that the FBI and DHS have gone after the January 6th protesters, the way they're holding people for nonviolent offenses, detaining them without bail for months, right?

00:25:12.520 And some of them need medical treatment, and they're not getting this medical treatment, and they're holding these people.

00:25:17.820 Well, they could have gone after Antifa and BLM at least as aggressively.

00:25:23.740 What does it tell us that they haven't gone after them aggressively at all?

00:25:27.120 That many of these cases were dropped all around the country, from Minnesota to Portland to New York.

00:25:32.980 These are the favored assets of the Democratic Party and the big tech, progressive, elite money running them.

00:25:43.920 That's, again, we are becoming more and more, or our elites, rather, are tending more and more toward a third-world Arab state. 0.92

00:25:57.480 It is, the similarities are remarkable, and one could not help but be struck by those similarities.

00:26:06.200 And the Arab street-like tone and tenor that was adopted in so many of our particularly Democrat-run cities all across the country.

00:26:19.200 We've seen Black Lives Matter recede here of late.

00:26:23.840 We have seen, with President Biden in office, Antifa recede, but still they are there, and still there is raw, ugly power being expressed against patriots and against American rights and values.

00:26:42.320 I've witnessed the hundreds of January 6th protesters, and I acknowledge some of them may have been criminal in their acts, but not most.

00:26:53.500 And the fact that the Republican Party, if we can conclude with this, is doing nothing.

00:26:59.820 What will it take for the Republican Party to decide it must, for the sake of the nation and the republic, stand up and demand that citizens be treated with due process, with respect, and under law?

00:27:19.340 Well, I agree that, well, here's, I think that if people broke the law, whether they committed felonies or misdemeanors, they should be charged as Americans, right?

00:27:30.680 Absolutely.

00:27:30.880 I mean, Americans break the law all the time, commit felonies, and commit misdemeanors, and they're charged.

00:27:36.820 And they're given a trial, and they're granted bail.

00:27:40.100 And this has not happened in many of these cases.

00:27:42.220 These people are not being treated like American citizens. 0.63

00:27:44.620 They're being treated like domestic terrorists, which is how the Biden administration and the Biden administration's Department of Justice, DHS, and FBI wants to treat them, which is ridiculous.

00:27:56.940 And so far as the Republican Party not standing up for them, I mean, I certainly hope that in due time that they will decide that this will be, I mean, especially as midterms will be approaching and voters will be wondering,

00:28:08.320 our neighbors are still being detained in a Washington, D.C. jail, and they need medical care.

00:28:13.620 Or what are you doing to help them?

00:28:15.480 I certainly hope that happens.

00:28:16.920 But I think that what has to happen in the meantime, regardless, is this calls on American leadership at every level, right?

00:28:24.640 Not just our political leaders.

00:28:26.960 It also should call on community leaders.

00:28:29.620 It should call on voices like ours for us to speak out against this.

00:28:37.040 I mean, one of the amazing things, we're talking about how great our country is.

00:28:39.940 I mean, we build leadership at every level, whether it's high school football coaches, whether it's small business community leaders, whether it's religious leaders.

00:28:49.100 So we need Americans generally to speak out against this.

00:28:53.020 If the Republicans are not, if Republican officials are not going to be an adequate political instrument, then whatever, then it will come down to Americans, as it always has.

00:29:03.140 Not necessarily our political leaders, but American leadership generally.

00:29:08.680 Well said.

00:29:09.720 Lee, thanks for being with us.

00:29:11.280 We appreciate it.

00:29:12.580 And I look forward to our next talk.

00:29:15.640 I hope you'll rejoin us soon.

00:29:17.680 Thanks so much.

00:29:18.260 Thanks so much, Lou.

00:29:19.040 It's a great pleasure and honor.

00:29:20.400 Thank you.

00:29:21.140 Thank you.

00:29:21.700 Our politics becoming increasingly complex.

00:29:26.020 The role of corporations in national politics, long established, but what is new is the effort of corporate America, at least much of corporate America, to support Marxist ideology, whether it be in the form of Black Lives Matter or providing support for so-called DEI.

00:29:44.180 That's diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace.

00:29:48.140 Dr. James Lindsay is a critic of the so-called woke culture that is capturing the imagination of so many in corporate America.

00:29:58.100 He's written a book entitled Race Marxism, soon to be published.

00:30:03.440 Dr. Lindsay joins us now to take up the appropriate responses to DEI and critical race theory in education, the workplace, and government.

00:30:13.760 It is great to have you with us, and how in the world did we get to this point?

00:30:20.200 Critical race theory, suddenly ESG is not enough.

00:30:25.100 We've got to have new levels of direction in corporate America.

00:30:29.960 From every quarter, it seems, the power structure, the establishment, and the world as we knew it is under attack by what some call Marxism.

00:30:42.280 How did we get here?

00:30:43.960 Well, there have been three major pieces of the formula, I guess, that got us here.

00:30:50.200 One of those is that this has been brewing in academia for at least 50 years.

00:30:55.620 These ideas started in the late 1960s and early 1970s and were being mainstreamed into academia at the time.

00:31:02.860 So the goal was to teach not students, but teachers, future teachers.

00:31:08.940 So to indoctrinate future teachers, to indoctrinate future professors so that they would then spread this idea to more and more and more students.

00:31:17.260 You could say that's operationalizing the field, if you want to put it in kind of Marxist language or strategic language.

00:31:22.860 Secondly, there was a gigantic cultural push.

00:31:26.760 That cultural push came on the back of what we saw out of academia over the last 50 years.

00:31:31.320 After you got enough professionals that went into media, that went into law, that went into different professional fields.

00:31:36.440 All of a sudden, it becomes pretty easy to start taking advantage of cultural phenomena and interpreting them in terms of, say, critical race theory or whatever else.

00:31:43.980 So three big things that popped up when Barack Obama was elected president, sadly, many people responded with some racism.

00:31:52.020 And that's the core thesis of critical race theory.

00:31:56.220 Later, you have the Black Lives Matter movement kind of launch into the scene in 2014 and 15 after the Ferguson shooting.

00:32:04.280 And there you have, again, mainstreaming this idea that there's a secretly racist now police force. 0.94

00:32:11.380 And then when President Trump ran for office, it was racist, racist, racist, racist, racist. 0.82

00:32:16.360 And they used critical race theory to say only a racist America could elect Donald Trump. 0.94

00:32:23.080 And they use that narrative very, very effectively to drive people crazy and to believe that America was secretly racist.

00:32:29.280 And critical race theory becomes the tool.

00:32:31.600 So that's two out of the three components.

00:32:33.620 And the third is the ESG, which is how they manipulated corporations into backing this, promoting it, and making it look like they were responding to market demands when, in fact, their bottom line at the level of the valuation of their stocks or the ability to participate in being a publicly traded company depends on compliance with that S.

00:32:53.340 And that's ultimately how we got here.

00:32:55.260 And what is elusive, at least to me, the incipient point this began, it's a perfect storm.

00:33:02.500 But I am curious, this doesn't look like a natural storm of any form.

00:33:07.500 This is not spontaneous.

00:33:10.280 This is a seeded cloud that's been unleashed, whether it's ESG and environmental social governance,

00:33:16.620 two areas, by the way, which most corporations have the least to do with on their checklist of stakeholders.

00:33:24.960 It's remarkable that this confluence of ESG, corporate social responsibility before that, of course, now we have sustainability at all costs.

00:33:36.900 And instead of looking to the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Roundtable, which they do quite enough of, corporate America is now looking to the United Nations for guideposts and values.

00:33:48.180 Most Americans are completely and utterly unaware of what is happening.

00:33:54.760 That's right.

00:33:55.060 They're also looking to the World Economic Forum and the International Monetary Fund, which are funneling these bags of cash to back these things.

00:34:01.880 Now, as far as where this all kind of began, I think there's a combination between organic and inorganic elements to it.

00:34:10.700 I think it began with with neo-Marxists who are actually communists that were operating in the 1960s.

00:34:17.220 And you can read that explicitly and say Herbert Marcuse's very influential writings from the 1960s, where he says we have to find the radicalizable student population and we have to get the ghetto population. 0.78

00:34:28.440 That was his words for the black radicals. 0.56

00:34:31.800 And we have to figure out how to make them into, he said, the new working class, meaning in the Marxian sense, the new radicalizable revolutionary class to overthrow society.

00:34:40.080 Because he said the working class has been stabilized.

00:34:42.320 He actually admitted capitalism works.

00:34:44.460 It's making a prosperous society.

00:34:46.420 But we could have a so much better society if we were to overthrow it.

00:34:49.180 And we have to look for that revolutionary energy, he said.

00:34:51.800 And so that's really where the seeds of this were laid.

00:34:54.140 And then what you see, whether it's through corporate social responsibility or whatever else, is you see this ideology slowly colonizing other bureaucratic forms.

00:35:05.260 It turns out that a lot of the program of social equity, for example, which is, of course, their brand name, they operate under with a lot of it, came out of directly the field of public administration on the back of a book called The Administrative State.

00:35:21.280 So this whole idea that you're going to colonize things that happen bureaucratically and turn them in this direction has been part of a kind of long march through the institution's plan that has found what's been advantageous to it and colonized it and turned it into this.

00:35:36.860 The biggest example of that in schools would be social emotional learning, which started out as a way to deal with troubled kids and turned into a Maoist education program masquerading as a way to deal with troubled kids.

00:35:50.000 And how pervasive is all of that in our schools, our public schools?

00:35:56.860 It's virtually ubiquitous.

00:35:58.120 It's the leading edge of so-called educational theory these days.

00:36:02.760 It's in virtually all of the schools.

00:36:04.460 You pick a state like North Carolina, which is kind of famously purple, and they've even passed legislation in the state of North Carolina to make it so that teachers who are engaging in social emotional learning cannot be held responsible for the fact that what it entails is doing unlicensed psychological therapy in an unregulated environment on children.

00:36:29.880 And so this is deep.

00:36:32.680 It's virtually ubiquitous.

00:36:34.240 It is the hot thing that's everywhere.

00:36:36.580 But again, this is the key thing where it feels like this has all been seeded.

00:36:41.020 It has been seeded, but it was seeded through kind of a parasitic action, a thing called social emotional learning that helped troubled kids, got colonized a number of years ago, turned into transformative SEL, as they call it, and got turned into something different.

00:36:55.120 And this is why, whether it was with the corporate social governance, responsibility in governance policies or projects, all of these things that were noble efforts to try to improve the environment in which Americans and other Westerners worked, were colonized by neo-Marxist ideas and basically taken over from within.

00:37:13.980 And they're now everywhere.

00:37:17.320 Virtually all of our institutions have been flipped over into this.

00:37:20.800 And the behavior you see from, say, the Democratic Party reflects that, that they think that they now have enough control over all institutions to do whatever they want without having to worry about accountability.

00:37:31.240 And we see expressions, if you will, of the presence of all that you're talking about, for example, in Loudoun County in Virginia, all of the headlines that are being driven around the country, some awareness of that.

00:37:47.820 And at the same time, we are looking at the role of school boards suddenly being attacked.

00:37:55.900 Suddenly, we get an idea of what's going on.

00:37:58.740 There is an effort to transform this country from public education to state education.

00:38:06.500 Parents are no longer considered.

00:38:08.360 Parents are citizens.

00:38:10.020 They are simply, you know, hold the hands of those children and put them to bed at night.

00:38:15.560 The state will take care of the rest in the minds of these school teacher unions, these lame front organizations like the School Board Advisory Association that's been created to be nothing more than a handmaiden to the efforts of the National Education Association and the Federated Teachers, the two biggest unions, teachers unions in the country, and a mighty, powerful political forces.

00:38:43.540 Yeah, that's absolutely correct.

00:38:47.540 A lot of people don't know that literally the first, by the way, diversity manual that was ever written was at American University in 1973.

00:38:58.560 And this manual was actually commissioned, paid for, and distributed by the NEA back in the 1970s.

00:39:04.540 So they've actually, and this is an explicitly, you think, you know, Robin DiAngelo last year or the year before with white fragility came out, and then it's all, you know, there's no neutral, you're either racist or anti-racist, you know, whiteness has to be reduced.

00:39:19.220 This was all written in the 1970s under the direction of the NEA.

00:39:22.840 The teachers unions have been at the bottom of driving a lot of this very radical change to our country for a very long time.

00:39:30.560 And you're also correct that it's a transformation to a state education.

00:39:33.800 They no longer want to think in terms of American citizens who have rights as Americans.

00:39:37.700 The new buzzword that you hear again and again and again, especially from the education activists is global citizens, which, of course, is preposterous.

00:39:44.540 There's no such thing as a global citizen because there is no such thing and should not be such a thing as a global sovereign to which you can be subject as a citizen.

00:39:53.100 And so this is the new mentality that they're trying to bring in through the school system.

00:39:58.220 But when you look at the indoctrination program that's being run through our schools already, all the way K through PhD, not K through 12, all the way through the top, you look at the indoctrination program that you already have going on and they're saying, oh, well, we're going to bring that down to three and four year olds now, too.

00:40:14.500 We're going to start even earlier.

00:40:16.080 You can really start to get a taste of what they're trying to do.

00:40:18.820 They think they own your children.

00:40:20.760 They think that it's their right to make them into global communist citizens and to indoctrinate them with the relevant, whether it's critical race theory, whether it's queer and gender theory, whether it's climate justice, whether it's health equity, whatever these kind of buzzwords around all of this happen to be.

00:40:41.360 It's all the same thing.

00:40:42.780 Equity means socialism.

00:40:43.860 Justice means communism.

00:40:44.960 And that's what they're trying to indoctrinate from the very beginning.

00:40:47.940 I was shocked to see what happened over the last few years, the pace at which these corporations moved.

00:40:53.660 It moved at a pace I did not imagine they could in expanding the power of their HR departments, human resources departments, the old personnel departments.

00:41:06.200 They're now political offices within the corporation.

00:41:10.900 Corporations have, of course, their public affairs offices in Washington, D.C. to lobby.

00:41:14.740 They have HR departments to manage politics and the standards of the day, whether it's ESG, whether it is corporate responsibility.

00:41:29.420 These corporations have taken a turn that is definitive.

00:41:35.200 And I think right now you would have to say that corporate America is left wing in its behavior.

00:41:43.860 Your thoughts?

00:41:45.240 I think that you're obviously correct.

00:41:48.220 And I think most people who are starting to wake up to what's going on around can see that.

00:41:52.280 There are two primary components for why that is, and one of them is the ESG game.

00:41:57.940 The other is that we have very bad jurisprudence that is followed from the Civil Rights Acts that is increasingly bent toward the disparate impact that different racial groups, for example, or identity groups have different outcomes on average by group, not at the level of individuals.

00:42:14.960 That disparate impact can be taken as evidence of discrimination, and that's if you've read where Ibram X. Kendi, the critical race theorist, says that the solution to inequality is to pass an anti-racist constitutional amendment.

00:42:26.680 One of the two things he says that amendment should be fundamentally based on is the idea that differences in outcomes should be proof of discrimination.

00:42:34.500 So this is the situation that we find ourselves in.

00:42:36.940 Until the court rules that disparate impact is not enough to have proof of discrimination, we're going to find ourselves caught in this trap as well.

00:42:46.440 On the side of academia, we're watching now a number of universities, a number, some 121, the last report I saw, that have dropped their requirement for the ACT test or the SAT test, or both, because they believe it is somehow racially discriminatory and puts minorities at a disadvantage.

00:43:11.620 And are literally moving away from objective testing of knowledge.

00:43:19.280 It's a deeply troubling moment in higher education of all places.

00:43:25.720 Yeah, that's actually a move.

00:43:26.840 This has been done in the past.

00:43:28.840 Mao Zedong did this in China during his Cultural Revolution, because what it allows when you remove objective standards, obviously, just to be clear, that's not the case in China now.

00:43:37.480 They have extremely rigorous tests, and they brought that back when after the party sees power, because if you get rid of objective testing and objective standards for getting in, everything becomes subjective.

00:43:46.480 So now your diversity, equity, and inclusion, or personal struggle statement, or whatever it is that you're supposed to submit, that reveals your politics, that tells whether or not you're going to be a compliant party operative or not, becomes at least higher, if not the highest ranked idea or item that brings you into being admitted into the university.

00:44:10.140 So that only party operatives are even getting in, and only party operatives are getting out after they've been more thoroughly brought into party politics.

00:44:19.740 This isn't new.

00:44:20.860 This isn't new to the world.

00:44:22.320 Mao did this in China, used it to affect parts of the Cultural Revolution, ruined China utterly as a result, and then later realized, oh, well, we need to bring standardized testing back.

00:44:33.940 This is very much like how the Soviet Union thought that physics was a bourgeois Western project up until the West got the nuclear bomb, and then all of a sudden physics was very important for communism, too.

00:44:44.100 This is the kind of mistake, if you want to call it a mistake, that they make over and over and over and over again in these kind of broadly Hegelian Marxist kind of programs.

00:44:53.620 Let's make everything subjective until it's a catastrophe, and then we'll go back to objective standards at the pleasure of the party.

00:45:00.000 It's difficult to imagine a country that has reached this point, having the energy and the drive to reverse course.

00:45:11.620 What is your sense of the immediate future?

00:45:14.800 The immediate future, I think, is going to be rocky.

00:45:16.800 I have a very much more optimistic view than I did, say, in January.

00:45:21.560 The truth is that people up to this point have not realized what's at stake.

00:45:27.440 But I'm actually, as I travel around the country from city to city and talk to people all over the nation, I find out more and more and more that people are very rapidly waking up.

00:45:36.160 What I see on the Internet reflects this.

00:45:37.880 I see the Biden administration try to put out a new narrative.

00:45:41.140 Oh, we're going to do this gender ideology thing, or we're going to do this feminism thing, global feminism thing, or whatever it happens to be, pronouns day from the State Department, or whatever it is. 0.57

00:45:49.320 And I see these new narrative shifts not sticking very well.

00:45:54.320 And I think people are starting to wake up to the fact that, yes, it actually could happen here.

00:45:59.240 And their complacency is falling away as they start to realize it.

00:46:02.720 What I believe is the case is that they needed both top down, which they have in the Biden administration right now and in many state governments, but they also needed the bottom up support.

00:46:11.380 And it's because when you press down without having support from the bottom, the bricks just fall out the bottom.

00:46:16.400 And I think that's actually where we are.

00:46:18.060 They're dropping bricks out of the bottom of their plan as fast as possible.

00:46:21.720 We call this red pilling on the Internet these days.

00:46:23.840 They're red pilling people left, right, and center.

00:46:26.840 And I genuinely mean that on the left as well.

00:46:29.380 If you look at Virginia, you see what's happening with the scandals in education.

00:46:32.720 So I think what's going to happen is that we have to understand that this regime, the Biden administration, knows that it has crossed the Rubicon.

00:46:42.820 It knows that it is pushing something extraordinarily unpopular.

00:46:46.980 It's going to become more and more unpopular.

00:46:49.140 So it only has a few options available to it.

00:46:51.680 But the main thing is that whatever direction it goes is going to continue to double down.

00:46:55.320 What happens at the end of this, I can't tell you.

00:46:57.540 But I think they're going to continue to try to force these, whether it's vaccine mandates and passports, whether it's going to be climate mandates or passports or whatever else.

00:47:07.680 I think they're going to try to force this on people and force this on people for a while.

00:47:12.060 And then I don't know what happens after that, because people I don't think in the American Republic are going to take it much longer.

00:47:19.520 They realize now what's at stake.

00:47:21.040 They realize when Alexander Solzhenitsyn warned, we didn't love freedom enough.

00:47:25.040 So we deserved everything that followed after that.

00:47:28.060 They are in that story and that they are going to have to love freedom enough to do something about it.

00:47:33.740 What can everyone do in your judgment to help to help reverse this tide?

00:47:43.000 Well, the shortest answer is to not participate.

00:47:45.840 They this requires a little bit of discernment.

00:47:47.860 You have to kind of be able to tell when you're being fed the narrative and when something might be legitimate.

00:47:53.600 But I would advise everybody be very suspicious of the narrative and then to try to predict why are they telling us this and what do they want us to do?

00:48:00.440 And then don't do that.

00:48:01.720 It's very important to civilly resist, to say, no, I'm not going to participate in these systems of lies.

00:48:08.180 Now, if you want to do more than that, it depends on your temperament and your talents.

00:48:11.680 One of the things people can do is if they are inclined, they can work on that discernment part.

00:48:17.660 They can learn more about the ideology.

00:48:19.840 They can learn more about ESG, for example, with the corporate world.

00:48:23.660 They can learn more about DEI, the diversity, equity, inclusion, and the critical race theory.

00:48:27.640 The regime does not like transparency.

00:48:29.220 They cannot stand sunlight.

00:48:31.240 It embarrasses them.

00:48:32.980 It stymies their plans.

00:48:34.500 People won't go along with it.

00:48:35.560 The one thing they can't stand is people outing them for what they're doing and then standing up and saying no as a result.

00:48:43.200 And we still have the power to do that.

00:48:45.680 We still have the power to speak up.

00:48:46.880 They're trying to close those doors on us, but they haven't.

00:48:49.240 Now, maybe gaining that, studying some specific subjects like that and speaking up isn't your path.

00:48:54.400 Well, then you should fall into whatever kind of support role that you can fall into.

00:48:59.200 Maybe it's that you're going to help build community around in your neighborhood.

00:49:02.480 You're going to get people together to talk about the issues.

00:49:04.880 You're going to bring people together to talk about what this nation means and where we want it to go.

00:49:09.100 To start re-knitting the fabric of America from the grassroots is something anybody can do.

00:49:14.260 And when I say support, you can also find people who are speaking up about this and you can back their program,

00:49:20.060 whether it's sharing their materials, donating to their causes, whatever.

00:49:23.220 Those are things that you can do if you don't want to take it on.

00:49:25.860 But you can also just do your part to bring your local neighborhood together and to get people to where they're starting to talk about this.

00:49:34.140 Because it turns out that that is much more effective.

00:49:37.620 If you look back all through the 20th century, how do you fight communism?

00:49:40.580 How do you fight communism?

00:49:41.400 This is what they say over and over and over again.

00:49:43.200 And it stayed communism out of the United States and out of the West for the majority of the century.

00:49:48.040 All you have to do is be very discerning and very clear and to make strong, stable communities so that they can't encroach on your values and knock you off of your base.

00:49:57.720 One of the points I insist on in the podcast is to make it possible for people to understand how important community engagement really is.

00:50:06.820 Of all the political races in the country, of course, the presidency remains the most important.

00:50:12.600 But every citizen in this country has greater power over their local communities and their city and townships, and they have to be engaged.

00:50:25.160 One citizen can make so much difference in such a quick, quick amount of time.

00:50:32.640 Citizenship is to be taken seriously in this country.

00:50:35.660 And unfortunately, too many of us have stepped back from that responsibility.

00:50:40.280 I want to say to you, James Lindsay, I really appreciate your being with us.

00:50:45.880 A fascinating discussion.

00:50:48.720 And James Lindsay, by the way, is modest enough not to have mentioned his podcast, which is one of the places where you can go to learn more about each one of these critically important issues.

00:51:03.360 These cynical theories, as he styles them in his new book.

00:51:07.760 And we're just delighted to have you with us.

00:51:10.280 Hope you'll come back soon.

00:51:11.940 We appreciate everything you're doing.

00:51:13.880 Dr. James Lindsay.

00:51:15.260 Thank you so much, Lou.

00:51:16.820 Join us again tomorrow for the Great America Podcast.

00:51:20.100 Stay in the fight.

00:51:21.080 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

00:51:26.480 Sabbath, you 내 molto queridos.

00:51:27.480 Soup, chastronism, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin, ixin.

The Great America Show - November 11, 2021

CRITICAL RINO THEORY

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