The Great America Show - October 08, 2023


CRUSHING THE AMERICAN SPIRIT


Episode Stats

Length

31 minutes

Words per Minute

155.85796

Word Count

4,841

Sentence Count

361

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

After the 2016 election, we all thought it was safe to assume that Hillary Clinton would trot off into the sunset after being dealt a huge defeat by President Trump. She never quite went away, did she? Every now and then you would hear a mumble from the election denier, the disgruntled former presidential candidate. This week, she surfaced. It s unclear what her motive or plans are, but she is back in the media. And she is, as usual, peddling a disturbing message.


Transcript

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00:01:15.020 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs.
00:01:24.480 This is The Great America Show.
00:01:25.980 Welcome and great to have you with us.
00:01:28.280 After the 2016 election, we all thought it was safe to assume Hillary Clinton would disappear,
00:01:34.700 would trot off into the sunset after being dealt a huge defeat by President Trump.
00:01:40.120 She never quite went away, though, did she?
00:01:42.460 Every now and then, you'd hear a mumble from the election denier, the disgruntled failed presidential candidate.
00:01:49.440 This week, she surfaced.
00:01:51.200 She made more than just a mumble, and it's unclear what her motive or plans are.
00:01:56.720 But she's back in the media, and she is, as usual, peddling a disturbing message.
00:02:02.340 In an interview with CNN, Clinton told the host, Trump supporters need to be re-educated.
00:02:10.320 Is that familiar language, folks?
00:02:12.540 And there needs to be, she said, a formal deprogramming of the cult members referring to you and me, all 80 million of us.
00:02:26.180 Here she is.
00:02:27.120 Sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega-extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump,
00:02:35.000 who has no credibility left by any measure.
00:02:40.240 He's only in it for himself.
00:02:42.120 He's now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions.
00:02:46.060 And when do they break with him?
00:02:47.260 You know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members.
00:02:54.480 Now that's one bitter, angry, jealous woman, who I might mention, who hates Donald Trump with a passion that few human beings could ever match or muster.
00:03:06.140 And who will never be president of these United States.
00:03:10.460 Crime in America is hitting new heights in 2023.
00:03:13.220 No signs of it slowing down, murders, robbery, armed robbery, looting.
00:03:18.460 You name it, it's happening.
00:03:20.840 Just this week, Philadelphia saw one of the worst weeks of looting since the riots of George Floyd's Summer of Love.
00:03:28.240 The thugs hit stores from Apple to Lulu Lemon to Foot Locker.
00:03:32.660 And some even hit the Fine Wine and Good Spirits store for a nightcap.
00:03:36.960 After the thugs wrapped up their free shopping spree, the Philadelphia Police Department decided to do something.
00:03:43.220 They arrested, they say, 70 out of the roughly 100 looters.
00:03:48.240 That's right, only 100.
00:03:50.200 That's what the police and the prosecutors are saying, but I don't believe a word of it.
00:03:54.620 Or they're highly suspect numbers.
00:03:57.100 The police, in some instances, did finally do their job.
00:04:00.820 But even then, when it came to George Soros, appointed District Attorney Larry Krasner, he's not about to do his job.
00:04:08.260 And he came up with a brain twister of an excuse and rationalization of his passivity as a prosecutor.
00:04:16.600 The Marxist Dem DA, speaking to the media shortly after the arrest, said he will not permit a judge to overcharge, quote,
00:04:25.860 quote, fundamentally law-abiding looters, end quote.
00:04:30.560 Here is none other than Larry Krasner.
00:04:33.440 I'm not going to let any judge disturb the peace of this city.
00:04:37.700 We'll look carefully to see whether this is a one-off situation and they're fundamentally law-abiding people.
00:04:43.640 Hold them accountable one way or whether they are criminals.
00:04:46.800 And they're all about taking advantage.
00:04:49.280 My friend's language doesn't get much more Orwellian than that.
00:04:52.900 God save these United States.
00:04:55.960 And President Trump's attorneys have filed a motion to dismiss his January 6th case brought by the junkyard jackal special counsel, Jack Smith.
00:05:05.340 Trump's attorneys say everything the president said on that day is protected by presidential immunity.
00:05:11.620 And they cite the impeachment clause, which states the president may be charged by indictment only in cases where the president has been impeached and convicted by trial in the Senate.
00:05:23.540 In Trump's case, he was found not guilty by the Senate.
00:05:26.860 Therefore, the case is closed.
00:05:28.620 They say the junkyard special counsel is breaking 234 years of precedent and that Trump's efforts to ensure election integrity and to advocate for the same were inside the scope of his duties as president of the United States.
00:05:44.860 I want to bring in our guest now.
00:05:47.200 He's perhaps the most photographed person in the events of January 6th.
00:05:50.620 He's the fellow you saw with the horned helmet, an American flag inside the Capitol, and is often referred to as the QAnon shaman.
00:06:00.900 His name is Jacob Chansley.
00:06:02.900 He joins us now.
00:06:03.940 And, Jake, great to have you with us here on The Great America Show.
00:06:07.300 Thanks for joining us.
00:06:08.680 Let's begin with, first of all, the events of January 6th.
00:06:12.100 Why were you there?
00:06:13.340 What were your intentions?
00:06:14.420 Well, I was there on December 12th of 2020, as well as on January 6th.
00:06:21.760 And on December 12th, everything was fine.
00:06:24.240 Everything was peaceful.
00:06:25.560 People were by the Capitol building.
00:06:27.300 They were by the Supreme Court building and everything was fine.
00:06:30.320 So I expected more of the same on January 6th.
00:06:34.760 But I actually went there for more spiritual reasons than I went there for political ones.
00:06:39.940 I mean, or should I say, as much political reasons, as much as spiritual reasons.
00:06:47.340 Washington, D.C. is built on electromagnetic ley lines.
00:06:50.980 That means that the Capitol building, the Washington Monument, which is a gigantic obelisk, the Lincoln Memorial, the White House, the Supreme Court, all of those buildings are built on ley lines.
00:07:02.260 And that's kind of like the pyramids are built on ley lines.
00:07:06.120 The obelisks are built on ley lines, ancient temples, medicine wheels.
00:07:10.740 So Washington, D.C., in that sense, is like a sacred site with a bunch of temples in one way or another.
00:07:16.820 Does that make sense?
00:07:18.140 You know, it's an interesting way to look at it.
00:07:20.080 I hadn't thought of that.
00:07:21.420 And when you say ley lines, tell us what you mean by that.
00:07:26.020 Well, as I'm sure you're aware, the Earth is surrounded by an electromagnetic field.
00:07:31.480 And that electromagnetic field goes all the way down to the core.
00:07:36.340 But that means that there are certain locations on the surface of the planet where these electromagnetic lines cross one another.
00:07:44.260 And where it is that these electromagnetic lines cross one another, you end up seeing, you know, ancient pyramids, ancient obelisks, ancient temples and, you know, Native American medicine wheels, etc.
00:07:56.460 And in our case, we have chosen to build, say, like Vatican City is built on ley lines.
00:08:02.540 The London Palace is built on ley lines.
00:08:04.700 All of Washington, D.C. is built on ley lines.
00:08:07.720 And all three of these locations have an obelisk that is in these locations built on ley lines.
00:08:14.500 So my being there was about ensuring that the highest levels of positive energy, peace, love, etc.
00:08:23.980 were being plugged into the ley line grid system of the planet, because as a shamanic practitioner, I consider that my duty.
00:08:33.200 Well, it's fascinating.
00:08:34.740 And I think a lot of people right now are thinking, whoa, where did we just go in this conversation?
00:08:40.220 I think that's fascinating.
00:08:41.740 And we're going to go farther into that conversation because it's it's part of who you are.
00:08:47.060 And when they referred to you as the the QAnon shaman, you know, they weren't entirely wrong.
00:08:55.560 That was a pretty good two two word label for you.
00:09:00.900 Well, I beg to differ.
00:09:02.600 I just I QAnon is a fiction that has been created by the Operation Mockingbird Media to discredit Q and the Anons QAnon is is not a reality at all.
00:09:16.400 It's it's a label that they created so that they could then control the narrative based on what Q is or who Q is and what the Anons are.
00:09:27.520 Now, just to let you know, I also had one other reason why I chose to go to D.C. for the Mag a Million marches.
00:09:34.780 And a lot of people think that it's because of the election and that I think most people don't understand, at least for me in particular.
00:09:41.940 But I also think a lot of other people is that it was one reason it was a small part for me.
00:09:49.800 It had a lot more to do with the fiat debt based currency of the Federal Reserve.
00:09:55.760 It had a lot more to do with JFK's assassination.
00:10:01.260 It had a lot more to do with the long string of abuses ever since then.
00:10:06.600 For example, you know, things like Waco, Texas, the Oklahoma City bombing, 9-11, the Vegas shooting, all of the mass shootings that have happened in between now and then.
00:10:17.380 You know, things like Operation Fast and Furious, all of these things accumulated.
00:10:23.760 And then eventually we get to, you know, COVID-1984.
00:10:28.860 We get to the riots of 2020 and mayors and governors standing down and doing nothing as people's businesses are burned and police are injured and et cetera.
00:10:40.580 And then we finally get to the 2020 election.
00:10:44.320 So to me, it's an accumulation of all of that stuff.
00:10:48.420 And like it said in the Declaration of Independence, a long string of abuses.
00:10:54.580 A long string of abuses.
00:10:56.200 I couldn't agree with you more.
00:10:57.520 I think most of the people listening to you today here on The Great America Show probably agree with you.
00:11:02.880 And we're not signing on to any conspiracy theories.
00:11:06.720 We're not signing on to any of those things.
00:11:10.660 Although, frankly, I think it's hard to have a conspiracy theory these days because so much that we considered conspiracy theories are in actuality.
00:11:21.160 Coming true.
00:11:22.580 And I want to go back to when you corrected me on QAnon.
00:11:26.620 And the reason I thought that was a good label is because you were carrying signs that read, at least one of them said, Q sent me.
00:11:34.760 And you were associating yourself with Q.
00:11:39.280 Let me ask you, let me ask you this.
00:11:41.300 Do you know Q?
00:11:42.660 I mean, do you know who he is?
00:11:44.920 Or she?
00:11:45.680 Or they?
00:11:46.660 I think, yeah, I don't think that Q is an individual.
00:11:50.200 I think it's a group of individuals.
00:11:51.620 I believe that Q is the highest levels of the military and the intelligence community disseminating above top secret information, which above top secret is a Q level security clearance.
00:12:05.160 So I believe that it's the highest levels of the military intelligence and the intelligence community disseminating that above top secret information to patriots in our republic so that we can take back our country from the communists and the globalists that have infiltrated our nation at some of the highest and lowest levels so that they can bring it down from within and create a communist government that's brought into a new world order, one world government.
00:12:31.340 Again, that is fascinating.
00:12:35.340 We're going to continue this fascinating conversation with Jake Chansley, the QAnon shaman.
00:12:43.060 And I will, on the other side, find out if he wants me to quit calling him that.
00:12:47.040 If so, I'll defer.
00:12:48.680 Meanwhile, stay with us.
00:12:50.300 We'll be right back.
00:12:51.220 We're back now talking with Jacob Chansley, probably the best known, if you will, political prisoner of the Marxist left in this country for his activities on the Capitol and in the Capitol on January 6th.
00:13:15.860 Jake, let's go to that label, QAnon shaman.
00:13:19.860 How do you prefer to be called, Jake, Jacob, or referred to as the shaman?
00:13:27.440 Give us a sense of your reaction to those labels, to those names.
00:13:32.460 Well, Jake is just fine.
00:13:34.680 I don't really call myself a shaman.
00:13:37.240 I call myself a shamanic practitioner, but I am attempting in one way or another to relabel or rebrand myself.
00:13:48.020 And if I have to throw, you know, the term shaman in there, I would just say I'm America's shaman.
00:13:53.840 I like it.
00:13:55.640 American shaman.
00:13:56.720 I'll put it that way.
00:13:58.000 Okay.
00:13:58.480 And I'm going to stick with Jake for the purpose of this interview.
00:14:02.140 You went to, for the best of reasons, to the Capitol that day.
00:14:08.540 As you say, you've been back there on December 12th, an entirely peaceful event, orderly, and you expected the same.
00:14:16.920 What were your thoughts as suddenly you are arrested, what is it, two days later, and accused of all sorts of heinous crimes against the republic?
00:14:30.300 How stunned were you?
00:14:33.040 Oh, well, I definitely was shocked because the FBI agent that I spoke with when I called in to turn myself in and set up an appointment because they were looking for information.
00:14:44.900 I was stunned because he told me they weren't going to arrest me.
00:14:49.080 I asked him to just be straight up with me, man to man.
00:14:51.420 Tell me, are you going to arrest me?
00:14:52.740 I'll show up either way, but just tell me.
00:14:55.540 And he said, no, I don't see any reason to arrest you.
00:14:58.120 And considering at the time that it was just misdemeanors, and I knew that the FBI didn't really waste their time on misdemeanors.
00:15:04.980 I was like, all right, well, then I'll go talk to him.
00:15:08.660 And lo and behold, they arrested me right away.
00:15:13.200 Right away.
00:15:13.820 And then, and what happened next?
00:15:17.180 Well, they arrested, they read me my Miranda rights.
00:15:20.500 I got in the room, sat in the chair, then they read me my Miranda rights.
00:15:24.000 And I was like, oh, crap.
00:15:26.160 You know, here we go.
00:15:28.700 They are, you are arresting me.
00:15:30.460 You, you know, what the heck?
00:15:32.660 And so then they said, do you want to talk?
00:15:34.960 Do you want to say anything?
00:15:35.960 And I was like, well, I'll tell you my side of the story.
00:15:38.580 And so I, and they said, well, you know, you don't have a lawyer present.
00:15:42.700 I said, I have, I have God at my side.
00:15:45.140 So I, and I have the truth on my side.
00:15:47.840 So I'm just going to tell you what happened.
00:15:49.740 So I told them what happened from my perspective.
00:15:53.700 Then they took me to jail.
00:15:55.200 Well, that's the FBI in this does not look, does not look very good.
00:16:02.680 I have to say the entire justice department doesn't look good.
00:16:06.200 The judiciary doesn't look good.
00:16:09.020 And what happened?
00:16:10.740 I mean, did they ever release you then?
00:16:12.680 Well, no, no, I was taken to a, and they go to the private prison here in Arizona and
00:16:21.480 what's called Florence, Arizona, small little prison town.
00:16:25.700 And they just had misdemeanor charges at first.
00:16:30.260 And then like, I think it was like five days, seven days later or something like that.
00:16:33.900 They slammed me with two felony charges, totaling a 25 year maximum sentence.
00:16:39.460 And that freaked me out, man.
00:16:43.020 Let me tell you, it was like, oh my God, you know, at the time I didn't understand the
00:16:47.460 legal system.
00:16:48.140 And I thought that they were saying I was going to get 25 years.
00:16:52.240 So I'm freaking out.
00:16:53.720 I'm in solitary confinement in Arizona.
00:16:56.480 I'm sitting in solitary confinement.
00:16:59.020 Well, yeah, because they said it was for COVID, but I mean, you know, give me a break.
00:17:06.080 But anyway, I'm in my cell, I'm freaking out and I have a Bible with me.
00:17:12.780 And I was like, God, you know, you asked me to go through this.
00:17:16.240 You asked me to do this.
00:17:17.540 I'm going to open this.
00:17:18.460 I'm going to close my eyes and I'm going to open this Bible and I'm going to point to
00:17:22.660 a random verse with my eyes closed.
00:17:24.120 And I need you to speak with me like now, tell me everything's going to be okay.
00:17:28.140 So I closed my eyes.
00:17:29.540 I opened the Bible.
00:17:30.660 I pointed a random verse with my eyes closed and the verse that I pointed at said, I am
00:17:36.820 yours and you are mine.
00:17:38.460 I have redeemed you and called you by name.
00:17:40.820 Oh, Jacob.
00:17:42.620 Whoa.
00:17:43.780 Yeah.
00:17:44.420 Yeah.
00:17:44.800 Imagine having that.
00:17:46.100 And I was like, okay, okay.
00:17:48.000 Whoa.
00:17:48.840 All right.
00:17:49.460 Well, I guess God, you know, has got this.
00:17:52.200 And what's interesting, what's interesting though, is it had to give you a lot of peace
00:17:56.300 though, in that moment.
00:17:57.180 Oh, well, yeah, but then like, you know, a good two hours later, I was back to freaking
00:18:02.640 out again, you know, because it's like, oh my gosh, I didn't understand the legal system,
00:18:07.660 but it definitely helped.
00:18:09.340 And there was a lot of incredible and miraculous things like that that happened while I was in
00:18:15.000 solitary confinement for 10 and a half months while I was in prison for, you know, 14 and
00:18:21.280 a half, 15 months.
00:18:23.780 Yeah.
00:18:24.220 There was a lot of things like that.
00:18:25.880 And then what's really interesting is Tucker Carlson's footage came out three weeks before
00:18:31.500 I was already set to be released.
00:18:33.660 And I couldn't help, but think about that phrase in that, that biblical verse in the
00:18:39.260 beginning of I am yours and you are mine.
00:18:42.020 I have redeemed you and called you by name.
00:18:45.100 Oh, Jacob, because in many people's perspective, what Tucker Carlson did by releasing that footage
00:18:51.360 was essentially a form of redemption or vindication for me.
00:18:55.260 Well, for you and I think for nearly everyone who is a political prisoner still in the gulag,
00:19:02.700 that is Washington, D.C., our nation's capital and some outlying prisons under the Federal
00:19:09.860 Bureau of Prisons as well.
00:19:11.080 What was your treatment like during that time?
00:19:15.040 How were you treated?
00:19:17.280 Give us a sense of that.
00:19:19.300 Well, I was only in the D.C.
00:19:20.580 Gulag for approximately 11 days.
00:19:24.500 And the reason why they transferred me was because I was fasting for 11 days because the
00:19:28.620 food wasn't organic.
00:19:29.580 So I wasn't eating and D.C.
00:19:33.000 Gulag apparently could not accommodate my court ordered organic diet.
00:19:37.500 So they moved me to Alexandria, Virginia.
00:19:40.580 But when I was in D.C. in the gulag, I had never experienced racism until I went to the D.C.
00:19:47.680 jail.
00:19:49.100 How so?
00:19:51.160 Well.
00:19:52.700 For example, the guards were mostly black and they believed the mockingbird media.
00:19:59.300 And their narrative regarding Trump supporters being white supremacists and being racist and
00:20:06.420 all this other stuff.
00:20:07.420 So and then they knew who I was.
00:20:09.900 So they definitely didn't treat me very well in the beginning.
00:20:13.760 But I think what's interesting, though, is that as.
00:20:18.620 I was fasting and I was continuing to not eat, I got to watch their hardened hearts begin
00:20:26.400 to soften as they saw that I was suffering.
00:20:29.660 And that was that was very interesting to see.
00:20:32.280 It reminded me of what Gandhi talked about when he talked about self-suffering and, you
00:20:37.240 know, non-cooperation.
00:20:39.400 Well, we're going to continue.
00:20:41.140 We are talking with Jake Chansley, a victim of the Marxist dem corruption in Washington,
00:20:49.860 D.C., a Department of Justice that is rank and raw with corruption and makes no pretense
00:20:56.940 of it, a judiciary that is no better.
00:21:00.580 Those are my words, not Jake Chansley's.
00:21:03.460 But based on his experience, I see that as a straightforward statement of fact.
00:21:08.740 We'll be right back with Jake Chansley.
00:21:11.060 Stay with us.
00:21:17.380 We're back with Jake Chansley and we're talking about January 6th and his imprisonment and
00:21:23.080 his treatment at the hands of the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
00:21:28.180 There is no way in the world that you expected to be told you were going to get a sentence
00:21:31.880 of almost four years for what you did on that day, which was basically have your picture
00:21:40.020 taken sitting at a desk or standing with your shaman, get up and and doing nothing more.
00:21:49.240 Your reaction when you found out what you were facing.
00:21:52.260 Oh, man.
00:21:55.160 Well, I definitely didn't expect that.
00:21:59.020 That's for sure.
00:22:00.080 What I also didn't expect was for the Mockingbird media to use my image to create their shock
00:22:07.400 and awe campaign and never expected the name QAnon shaman, you know, to follow me around.
00:22:15.420 Didn't expect my image to go all around the world either.
00:22:20.300 And all around the world, they were using my image and they my name was on the tongues
00:22:25.380 of a lot of news anchors around the planet, which I thought was very ironic and interesting.
00:22:32.260 The way that I was treated in the BOP, though, in all honesty, because there's a difference
00:22:37.500 between being detained in like a jail or like a federal detention center and actual prison.
00:22:43.900 Right.
00:22:44.820 OK, so.
00:22:46.740 I got treated probably the worst when I was in the D.C.
00:22:51.200 Gulag, but that was only for 11 days.
00:22:53.280 Then they transferred me over to Alexandria Detention Center, which is a skip hop and a
00:22:57.960 jump away from the Washington, D.C.
00:23:00.740 Gulag.
00:23:01.360 I was there for about a total of 10 and a half months in solitary confinement.
00:23:06.280 And then I was transferred to Safford, Arizona, where I spent the majority of my prison time
00:23:15.060 in a low security prison.
00:23:19.080 Now, regarding the way I was treated in the BOP, to be perfectly honest with you, they
00:23:25.280 could have treated me a lot worse.
00:23:27.400 There's something called a communication management unit that they could have sent me to where
00:23:31.420 there's no letters, no phone calls, 23 hour lockdown, no interaction with other people.
00:23:37.680 And they didn't do that.
00:23:39.040 They sent me to Safford, Arizona.
00:23:40.580 And some people call Safford, Arizona, club fed.
00:23:43.840 So I think that it could have been a lot worse for sure.
00:23:49.820 They could have made it a lot worse.
00:23:51.260 But they also could have not done anything at all.
00:23:54.180 You know, they could have not sent me to prison at all.
00:23:56.560 I think that the way that they reacted was completely unjustified.
00:24:04.820 Yeah, there's no question about it.
00:24:06.640 I mean, we're talking about hundreds of people, many of them just like you, innocent as they
00:24:12.580 could be of any crime, certainly no felony and no misdemeanor that rises to the level of
00:24:20.140 what that's costing the federal taxpayer to incarcerate these people for all this time.
00:24:25.160 We're looking at this week, the Supreme Court will be making decisions about the charges
00:24:33.020 that have been brought against most of those political prisoners that are still held, as
00:24:39.600 well as the thousand that at least have already spent time or have very few have been exonerated.
00:24:46.900 So it's a time where the Supreme Court is going to take a look at what the Justice Department
00:24:52.440 did here.
00:24:53.060 As far as I've been able to see, from my vantage point, the prosecutors overcharged, the FBI
00:25:03.060 was complicit and docile before what they knew was rank corruption, political corruption,
00:25:09.140 and the judiciary then over-sentenced to a person, and certainly you.
00:25:14.300 Now, there are some people who deserve to be in prison, but there are a handful based on
00:25:19.020 what I saw in that video.
00:25:21.020 And I just want to get your sense of is there anything in your view that we could be doing
00:25:29.020 for the people who are still in prison?
00:25:31.020 Well, we need to talk about what it is that they're going through.
00:25:36.480 There's a lot of people currently in the D.C.
00:25:39.200 Gulag, J6 prisoners, that just because they're refusing to take a COVID test, they're all being
00:25:46.140 locked down.
00:25:47.480 They aren't allowed to use the phone.
00:25:49.080 They're not allowed visitations.
00:25:50.720 They're not allowed to come out of their cells for any more than an hour a day.
00:25:56.220 All because they're saying, well, no, we're not going to take a COVID test.
00:26:02.580 There's been people that were beaten.
00:26:05.660 There's people that were, like I saw an article in Gateway Pundit, there was a guy that was
00:26:10.880 a J6 prisoner that was put in a mop closet with no clothing and just underwear and no bedsheets,
00:26:21.220 no sink or anything.
00:26:23.400 He was in a mop closet.
00:26:24.500 So it just, and he was there for months and months at a time, solitary confinement, the
00:26:29.840 light was always on, you know, so that messes with your circadian rhythm.
00:26:36.540 So there's just so much that is being done to these people.
00:26:40.740 I mean, Enrique Tario, the founder of the Proud Boys, who's, by the way, is Puerto Rican
00:26:46.020 and black, if I'm not mistaken.
00:26:47.580 So that whole idea of being a white supremacist goes right out the window.
00:26:50.020 So Enrique Tario got a 22-year sentence.
00:26:54.920 And there's a lot of people that are saying, I believe even himself that said that he got
00:26:59.960 that length of a sentence because he refused to lie about his connection to Donald Trump
00:27:05.360 and how it related to January 6th.
00:27:07.360 That the feds came to him with a deal and said, say this and you'll get out of jail real soon.
00:27:16.300 And did you, did you, well, did you see or did you meet Ray Epps at any time during the demonstration?
00:27:25.820 No.
00:27:26.200 And, you know, now we find out that there was, in one form or another, either agents or informants
00:27:33.960 or other human sources that were there on January 6th.
00:27:38.680 Did you ever get a sense that you, I suspect caught up in the moment.
00:27:43.140 I don't know what you would have thought about or considered.
00:27:45.700 But did you ever think that perhaps someone was conveying you to a destination who was playing
00:27:54.940 a part in creating the event itself?
00:27:58.960 No.
00:27:59.680 Good luck trying to control my mind and my behavior.
00:28:04.200 Well, God bless you.
00:28:05.760 And I suspected that would be the answer.
00:28:08.140 But for so many, there is still a great belief that a lot of people were there who shouldn't
00:28:15.180 have been and who shouldn't have been acting as they did on that day.
00:28:19.520 But one thing I do know is when the American people are so intimidated as they are right
00:28:24.460 now to even stand up in their own capital and to protest a policy or a law or a regulation
00:28:31.660 or even a party's sad and pathetic insistence on treating fellow Americans the way the
00:28:38.740 Marxist Dems have treated you and your fellow prisoners on that from that day, it's abhorrent.
00:28:46.020 And I have to tell you, as an American citizen, I have never felt more helpless to do anything
00:28:51.540 to even raise my voice.
00:28:53.320 I know how inadequate it is and frankly, how futile it is, because these people absolutely
00:28:59.860 do not care and point of fact, they hate.
00:29:03.460 We always give our guests the final word here.
00:29:06.640 And Jake, I'd like, if you will, your concluding thoughts is and I want to tell you, I've enjoyed
00:29:11.220 talking with you today and appreciate your time.
00:29:13.160 Hope you'll come back.
00:29:14.600 Yes, it would be my honor to come back.
00:29:17.180 I think that now is the time more than ever to stand up and make our voices heard.
00:29:22.760 That's why they're trying to stop it so intensely.
00:29:26.060 That's why they're trying to censor us, because now is the time we have to do very similar
00:29:32.000 to what happened in Romania with the fall of communism.
00:29:34.580 We have to stand in the gap.
00:29:35.980 We have to use nonviolent, non-cooperation with evil to resist what is happening.
00:29:42.220 And I promise you it will work.
00:29:44.600 But do not be afraid.
00:29:46.180 Do not be intimidated.
00:29:48.380 We will win.
00:29:50.100 God wins in the end.
00:29:51.900 And the fact of the matter is, it's not that the world and the country and things are getting
00:29:58.600 worse.
00:29:59.920 It's just that the corruption in this country and across the planet is becoming more obvious.
00:30:05.260 This is the apocalypse.
00:30:06.860 This is the lifting of the veil.
00:30:09.120 And I think that when we embrace that and realize that this is probably the most exciting
00:30:13.220 time we could have picked to be alive.
00:30:14.820 And we learn to take our place in history and enjoy that place in history and do it for
00:30:20.420 our children and our grandchildren and the seventh generation, then there will be no
00:30:24.360 stopping us.
00:30:26.080 Amen, brother.
00:30:27.040 Thank you so much.
00:30:28.320 Jacob Chansley, we thank you for joining us on The Great America Show.
00:30:32.480 God bless you.
00:30:33.400 Thank you.
00:30:34.040 God bless you.
00:30:35.180 Thanks, everybody, for being here today.
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00:30:59.620 God bless you.
00:31:00.860 May God bless and save America.