00:01:00.000Like I said, I hope you all had a great weekend with your family and your loved ones.
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00:01:12.080I want to turn to a story that's been conquering the news not just for the last week, not just for the last month, not the last two months, not the last two years, but probably the last 20 years.
00:01:24.120and it's the surveillance state here in america the surveillance state that has dominated
00:01:29.680this country here at home and abroad but predominantly here at home which i think a
00:01:36.380lot of americans have taken great issue with why are we being surveilled by our own government
00:01:41.320here at home we're american citizens most of us doing nothing wrong actually i take that back
00:01:46.340Probably 99% of us are doing nothing wrong.
00:01:51.920So why is our federal government spying on us?
00:02:16.040He's a friendly face, friend of the Great America Show, friend of mine, friend of the great Lou Dobbs, former senior NSA intel analyst and great American and great whistleblower.
00:02:25.680A man who was talking about this long before anybody else, and he certainly paid the price for it, had everything taken from him pretty much, tried to destroy his life.
00:02:36.360But as you can see, they didn't succeed in that last part.
00:02:39.380Russ Tice, always a delight to have you with us, my friend.
00:02:52.460In my book, that means absolutely nothing.
00:02:54.380Expiration date on it means nothing because they're probably still running, you know, their whole undercover operation.
00:02:59.900But you reached out to me last week for the holiday weekend and expressed that, you know, you have some big, big issues with the renewal of 702.
00:03:09.100And it's something you've spoken out about for quite some time now, long before I was talking about it.
00:03:15.660Your thoughts, Russ, as 702 is up for renewal.
00:03:19.020And I think some members of Congress are finally starting to catch on that this might not be the best route for America.
00:03:26.760You know, 702 was attached to the FISA, I think it was in 08.
00:03:32.540And this was after I came out and said, hey, you know, we've got to do something.
00:03:39.100And then ultimately became a whistleblower to let the world know that NSA was spying on every single American in this country.
00:03:45.600So they come up and they're supposed to have reform.
00:03:49.640So 702 is supposed to involve only foreign communications.
00:03:56.160And, oh, by the way, if an American gets pulled into that a little bit, they're supposed to have all these protections.
00:04:02.760And, of course, that all just got watered down.
00:04:06.540They add the lone wolf to the category, which means and who defines what the lone wolf is, by the way, whether they're going to be involved in terrorism or, you know, a lone wolf, apparently, under the Biden administration was a was a mother who stood up at the at the the school board who wanted to mutilate her children and have her daughter be subjected to dudes, you know, dance around naked in their in their locker rooms.
00:04:34.360So and then and then you've got exigent circumstances and you've got the AG and you've got the now, you know, they can do this for a period of time with someone determines a president determines it's an emergency.
00:05:45.640And it's it's just a joke. What they're doing, they use this against our president.
00:05:52.540They use this against President Trump to get to get the connectors with the Carter page and then ultimately went after his entire campaign.
00:06:01.900And it beguiles me that President Trump would would would say, OK, I'm going to sign this if Congress passes it.
00:06:11.380And now it's being used as a football as to who's going to become the new DNI.
00:06:21.020Oh, you know, if this guy, Pulte, is going to be in there, we're not going to allow 702.
00:06:30.560Actually, the FISA court is unconstitutional.
00:06:32.780And the few that said, hey, at least attach a rider on that that says, you know, we will have a court warrant for an American that's going to be subjected to this, that got shot down.0.99
00:06:50.640So it's the continuation of the police state, the dystopian 1984 Orwellian nightmare, and they're just bantering it about, oh, because it's so important, you've got to have this, you've got that idiot Tom Cotton.0.96
00:07:12.160And I wonder what goods they have on that guy.0.98
00:11:47.480And I don't know whether it's President Trump, you know, buying buying this nonsense or is do they have dirt on President Trump or he's being there's no or is he just a lotus eater and he's just being lulled into into a la la land where he just says, well, this is no big deal.
00:12:13.540They've tried to get him on Epstein 100 times.
00:12:15.920They tried to get him. I mean, we witnessed the lawsuits and everything together.
00:12:20.100They've tried to get this man every single way till they can, till the sun came out.
00:12:24.480And there's nothing on everything I think has been aired out on this guy.
00:12:29.020So I think it's somebody who's gotten to him and said, listen, you know, this is what my biggest disappointment is in people like Kash Patel,
00:12:35.800who I've known for a long time, I think is always a good guy that he's now going along.
00:12:40.760I mean, this is a man who, you know, came out and fought for years and called them government gangsters.
00:12:47.640I have a book that's sitting right behind me in my studio here signed from Kash Patel.
00:12:51.520You know, it says, John, keep up the fight. We're going to win or something along those lines.
00:12:55.280And I look at it every now and then. I'm like, you know, what fight?
00:12:59.320What fight are we winning? What fight are we even fighting at this point?
00:13:05.040I think that's one that's really let me down because I thought cash was going to go in there and absolutely throw haymakers.
00:13:11.120I thought the FBI headquarters was going to be shut down, as he said, and turned into a museum.
00:13:15.620I believed everything he said because I always knew him to be a man of conviction.
00:13:18.840But it's like at this point, what have we really gotten that's different from Christopher Wray?
00:13:26.060Well, I think he's they're stroking his ego.
00:13:28.760They're calling him the big boss and he's jetting around on his private Learjet or Gulfstream or whatever.
00:13:34.780so it's you know he's living you know he's uh you know he's got a fancy girlfriend he's getting to0.93
00:13:43.080go all these cool places that you know so i think i get it that shit all runs out i mean that stuff
00:13:48.940gets real boring after a while you know it the same thing with you you know you've seen probably
00:13:54.420all the craziest stuff in the world through the nsa and the cia and it's like you know first you
00:13:59.700probably thought it was cool the bells and whistles and you're like all right like next
00:14:03.740I think the glamour and writs of it runs out after a while, and it's a year and a half in.
00:14:11.360Well, you know, when I was in the Middle East, I get to fly around on some Air Force, you know, corporate-style jets to bang around here and there, and it's kind of cool.
00:14:21.240You know, quite often you're sitting next to a general or an admiral, and I get to banter about, and I was getting to drive them to and fro and, you know, talk.
00:14:29.700So it makes you feel like a bigwig, you know.
00:14:41.600And you serve at the pleasure of the president, but your real consumer is the U.S. citizen to make sure that they're protected.
00:14:51.100I mean, I was over in the Middle East for, I don't know, five months.
00:14:54.100I came back and we had 9-11, and the only way I found out about it is the same way you did.
00:14:58.580And I and a lot of other of my cohorts, we just felt horrible.
00:15:06.260So it's, yeah, but at some point, Cash Patel has got to say, look,
00:15:11.660as a matter of fact, in the last few months, I've had the FBI back on my tail.
00:15:16.440And I think it's because I've tried to contact some folks in Congress to talk to them about 702
00:15:22.560and how pernicious this thing is to the American people.
00:15:26.320And the way that the NSA has just been ballooning as far as its capabilities in this arena, spying on U.S. citizens, and it's just getting worse.0.99
00:15:39.200But now I got the FBI back on my ass.0.99
00:16:49.620If you're joining us on audio, D-E-F-L-O-C-K dot org, D-F-L-O-C-K dot org.
00:16:55.240And what this is, is a company that is fighting back against their surveillance state.
00:17:01.480If you live in New York, if you live in the Northeast, if you live up the whole Eastern Corridor, as a matter of fact, as I'm going to show you in just a second, you probably notice there's street cameras, there's red light cameras, there's all sorts of different cameras that are being put up in your neighborhood.
00:17:16.820What this website has done, what these people have done, has mapped out every single surveillance camera that is in your neighborhood, every single surveillance camera that is around your neighborhood who runs it.
00:17:29.920So if you look here, the safest place, if you look at this map to probably live, is Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota.0.61
00:17:38.400Canada looks pretty good this time of year, as you can see.
00:17:42.460Now, you come over here to the northeast, and this infrared map shows everywhere, everywhere there are cameras.
00:18:09.000And it'll show you the way the camera's pointing, what it's looking at.
00:18:13.580And then if you go a little bit further and you click on it, it shows you who's monitoring the camera,
00:18:18.520who has access to the camera, who made the camera.
00:18:22.120This one says it's a traffic signal, and it's monitored by the New York City Department of Transportation.
00:18:27.280Oh, that didn't change. Here we go. Share this chat.
00:18:30.440This one's shared by the New York City Department of Transportation.
00:18:33.820I think this website's absolutely brilliant.
00:18:35.720And I think the guys who put this thing together are absolutely great Americans because it's now got people going to their city council saying, what the F is going on here?
00:18:46.080Why are why are there surveillance cameras on every single corner and their fight to it to a Russ is they say, oh, well, it's it's only for serious crimes.
00:18:55.160And I was joking with somebody at the cigar lounge last night.
00:20:29.620And the only reason I know it, because I incorporated my next door neighbor who was a widow and she was my little spy in the neighborhood for me.
00:20:37.940So she would inform me when when weird vehicles were coming in and doing stuff.
00:20:42.540And she said, oh, these these guys were in and they were up with a lamp all across from your door, across from your house.
00:20:48.300And they were putting something in the asset. And I asked her, I said, are they going to all the other lamp holes?
00:20:52.560And she said, no, it's just across from your door, your front door.
00:20:55.880i was like it's um so that's been a while ago but but like i said now i got the fbi back on me so
00:21:03.740yeah who knows what the hell they're doing russ has got some of the best stories guys i i sat
00:21:09.840last time i was in dc which was a year ago and uh can't be far enough away and uh me and russ had
00:21:15.620uh dinner russ took me to dinner now i'm going to return the treat when russ comes to new york next
00:21:20.380month um but the stories of russ's life folks you guys wouldn't believe what he had to go to to fly0.92
00:21:27.640under the radar to to not be picked up by these scum who were tracking his every move and it's0.99
00:21:33.980the same exact playbook that they run russ is a psychopath russ is losing his mind he's an1.00
00:21:41.080alcoholic he's a drunk he's this he's that and it's like anyone who wants to speak up and tell0.99
00:21:45.540the truth all of a sudden they're a plant they're uh they're an alcoholic they're a drug addict
00:21:51.760whatever it is it's the same playbook and the fact that people believe into this stuff is
00:21:57.620absolutely crazy uh people look at guys like uh edward snowden who i think did
00:22:03.700a little much but the premise of what he did i think was absolutely right now that we look at it
00:22:10.140uh or julian assange these people were trying to open our eyes up to what's going on in this
00:22:15.360country and and they were treated i i wish president trump would pardon them uh to be
00:22:19.780honest with you i really wish he would so they can come to america and they can tell their story
00:22:23.740about what took place and and they tried to warn us they tried to warn us before this really blew up
00:22:29.200what was really going on and and and now they're i don't even know what countries they're living in
00:22:35.060now well you know i owe a huge debt to edward snowden because he codified the things i'd said
00:22:41.520many years earlier with with their own documentation so they could know and and they called me crazy
00:22:46.960think about it i've got the highest clearances and and specialize in sap programs which are the
00:22:52.520highest classified programs well beyond tss right so if you're crazy what does that what does that
00:22:57.300make them for giving you the clear and i just had a psyche i had psyche pionic psyche valves and i
00:23:02.240passed one just nine months prior and the and i had polygraphs i had so many polygraphs you know
00:29:26.540But the fact that the Democrats are so vehemently against him and the establishment Republicans, the neocons, that tells me that – and the Democrats are willing to barter 702 just to be able to submarine this guy.
00:29:46.280That tells you that they have no respect for 702 or the fact that they wanted to protect the Americans from spying.
00:29:51.760Biden certainly signed off on the reauthorizations without a problem.
00:29:57.600So it's just a bargaining chip to them.
00:29:59.560They could care less that the IC is spying on because they're part of the deep state and the whole cabal.
00:30:10.560And now I guess Pulte is not going to be able to get in there.
00:30:15.260But I guess as an interim, he could do something.
00:30:17.240But then this guy, he's not trying to stay either.
00:30:19.760I mean, he wants to go back to Fannie Mae where he's done.
00:30:23.440President Trump has lauded him for doing a terrific, terrific job over there and turning that place around.
00:30:29.280Clayton's, I think, almost guaranteed to be even with Democrat support sworn in.
00:30:35.100But President Trump is holding him back right now as I think they figure out the 702 thing.
00:30:39.800So the whole thing is just in shambles right now as we're in a holding pattern, figure out what to get done.
00:30:46.920And I guess the show goes on, but you've still got guys like John Brennan who are out there, who's actually now suing the Trump administration.
00:30:56.240Surprisingly enough, I can't believe that man would want to go through the discovery process with everything he's done, suing the Trump administration.
00:31:02.840And it's like people still give this guy time on air after everything he's done.
00:31:08.940I mean, most notably, the 51 Intel spies who came out against Hunter by his laptop saying it was Russian disinformation.
00:31:14.580what retaliation what retribution was ever held against these people who've done this and it's
00:31:21.000nothing they've been promoted uh they've been paid more money it's a joke ross it's a joke
00:31:25.160you know you know the violations for the vice act are still there the ten thousand dollars
00:31:31.020of per one incident of spying against an american and and five years in jail but no one has ever
00:31:38.240been held accountable was was hayden held accountable no alexander held accountable no
00:31:42.680clapper held accountable no no one has ever been held it's a joke they all know they're not going
00:31:48.080to be held and until someone is held accountable it's going to continue um now it looks you know
00:31:54.380a bolton you know taking home you know home classified material while he's uh condemning
00:32:00.140a president of the united states who had the right to classify stuff and have it in his place in
00:32:05.020florida and now we find out that you know he he took all the classified notes took them home so
00:32:10.460he could put him in some kind of book um and he's probably going to get zero zero days in jail when
00:32:17.800i know a guy at nsa who supposedly and i think it was a setup his name was ken ford and you could
00:32:23.520look it up on the internet accidentally took took some stuff home and they put him in jail for six
00:32:28.820years so now was that because he was a black guy you know so you know i wonder if the you know but
00:32:36.000But I think it's just because he wasn't connected.0.77
00:32:41.540You know, Obama's a black guy who got away with a whole lot of stuff.
00:33:30.180I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:33:32.580it's off the top of my head but no it's just a general sentiment of it all russ it's they take
00:33:40.680us for fools these people get away with murder literally murder still don't know who killed
00:33:45.420speaking of murder seth rich death rich yeah bnc staffer which i've done a lot of work on0.99
00:33:50.460my friend ty clevenger is the lead attorney who's been fighting for this um for the documents i've
00:33:57.020had ty on the show many times um and you know we seemingly can't figure out a simple murder case
00:34:03.980you know these are supposed to be the best and the brightest in the world in washington dc the fbi
00:34:08.260which by the way i thought it was interesting the fbi was involved in it in a homicide why in uh
00:34:13.480in washington dc which i don't you know i'm not a law enforcement guy i you know i don't claim to be
00:34:17.620but you were you know worked very close through law enforcement i never heard of a the fbi showing
00:34:21.700up to a simple homicide case of a guy shot in the park so you know there's so many inconsistencies
00:34:27.000And the problem is, Russ, is nobody questions it. If you question it in the times of today, it's litigious. You get sued. Lou Dobbs was sued at Fox. Sean Hannity was sued at Fox. We're talking about the Seth Rich case. So it's like, you know, is it is it is it even worth it?
00:34:41.060I mean, this is the things that us as journalists have to have to say to ourselves, you know, is it worth getting sued over trying to put the truth out? That's not normal. We should not have to question ourselves on the premise of litigation.
00:34:55.740You know, when I was talking to Congress way back when, after the news finally came out in the New York Times, which took forever, by the way, I told them, I said, look, if you talk to any of these guys, they're going to say executive privilege, you know, because they're dealing with the executive.
00:35:12.320I said, you need to go after the providers, the telephone companies, the credit card companies that are giving up the information, private information of U.S. citizens, the travel people that are setting up the travel, you know, all these documents were also going to NSA.
00:35:29.380They know your credit card information and your medical information and everything else.
00:35:34.680I said, you need to go after them and bring their CEOs in here and put them under the gun.
00:35:38.880So what happened right after I told them to do that?
00:35:42.740Congress gave them retroactive immunity.
00:35:48.080And that was like, and by the way, since when is it constitutional for Congress to say they can give you immunity for violating the Constitution?
00:41:47.160And they fought a battle with the Romans and Cassius, who set, I think, three legions to go east and conquer a whole lot of the, I'm sorry, to go east and conquer Persia.
00:42:01.300Well, the Parthians, they would go with, like Calvary, they would go at the legions and then they would feign and come, like they're running, like they're retreating.
00:42:11.980The Romans would go after them and they would they would turn around on their horses and backwards start shooting arrows while they're riding forward.0.58
00:42:20.480They're shooting arrows and killing Romans as the Romans are pursuing them.
00:42:25.520Well, they did this so many times that they they wiped out three Roman legions.
00:42:29.800And Cassius was killed, who was supposedly the richest man in Rome.0.59
00:42:34.220So I find it very interesting and apropos that it's literally where it happened was what's now Iran, the Parthian shot, the history.0.72
00:42:45.500Now, it's been used by the Mongols and many others, but they're playing good cop, bad cop.
00:42:51.520They're playing us and they're shooting arrows as they're supposedly retreating in the Parthian tradition.
00:42:57.500And our president is just seems to be oblivious to it.
00:43:02.520So he has to deal – he has to do the – he has to take care of business and finish this.0.96
00:43:10.020You know, we can't have those Marines over there for forever.0.91
00:43:12.400Take Cargill and secure the Straits in Bandar Abbas and then tell Iran we're going to – and blow up half the power plants and half the bridges.0.67
00:43:25.080it's the thing is i i the problem which what i think he has right now is i don't think he has
00:43:31.060them in a position where they really need to make a deal because nothing really has changed
00:43:35.460that doesn't faze these people you can kill as many as you want it literally doesn't faze them
00:43:39.700maybe makes them a little bit mad makes them want to do a little retaliation which what they wanted
00:43:44.880to do after comedy and uh uh who's the other guy that they killed um the first one that president
00:43:52.140trump took out um so so money so money and then the helicopter that crashed so you know it's like
00:44:00.500i think it enrages them more and they want to kill more americans that's the only thing it does but i
00:44:04.820don't think it inclines them to to come any closer to a deal he's i don't think he's got them in a
00:44:09.260position where they really need to make a deal take some of their oil facilities capture some
00:44:15.600of their oil facilities take over some of their infrastructure and then put them in a position
00:45:08.560When you said blow up the bridge and the power plant,
00:45:12.140I don't necessarily agree with that, Russ, because this is the problem at war, right?
00:45:16.020There's always innocent people who are going to die.
00:45:17.800Not everybody in Palestine is a Palestine too. I have friends from Palestine that are terrific people, good friends of mine. Not everybody in Palestine is a bad person. Yes, there's terrorists in there that need to be killed. Not everybody in Iran is a bad person. So that's the problem that I take with, you know, back when President Trump said I'm going to level a whole civilization. There's nothing right about that. I don't think that innocent people deserve to die.
00:45:44.020They're going through as much pain as everyone else is there. I mean, they're literally being executed by their own country. These people are going through absolute total hell as it as it stands. I don't think they necessarily hate America. So that's the problem that I see, you know, with someone. I don't know the answer, Russ, and I don't pretend to know the answer because I think it's such a hard situation with what you do here.
00:46:06.260but i think you know crossing over to civilians is like i you know it's i don't it's it's hard
00:46:13.400for me i i care about the human life i care about people you know and i it hurts me to to think that
00:46:18.980there's going to be innocent people who are good people who will be killed in this which is why
00:46:24.480like i said i don't know the answer i really don't know the answer and i hate to see this
00:46:28.660take place just a few months ago they killed what 40 000 people in the span of four weeks
00:46:35.260in the streets of Tehran and a couple of other major cities.
00:46:41.080You've got to get someone with a gun to be able to go up against the IRGC0.99
00:46:45.580because they're thugs and they will kill them.0.98
00:46:50.360It's like we've done this in history, Russ.
00:46:54.780We've armed militias, and I think historically it really hasn't worked out.0.92
00:47:00.480Well, we've we've we've backstabbed the Kurds so many times that this time they said we've backstabbed everybody.
00:47:07.420We're going to keep the guns because we might need them when when Turkey comes out for us again.0.91
00:47:12.400But look at Afghanistan. We look what we did in Afghanistan.0.74
00:47:18.100We turned the entire country upside down and left them. And now the Taliban's running the country.0.80
00:47:23.300well yeah i said over and over again it didn't matter whether whether we uh we left
00:47:30.420you know one year five years 10 years 20 years it would go right back to the way now i figured
00:47:36.540it would take a year or two i didn't think it would take a week or two it was a day i missed
00:47:42.740i thought a year or two not a week or two but oh it was pretty damn quick wasn't it so all those
00:47:47.960generals that said oh we're training these afghan soldiers and they're going to stay in a book what
00:47:52.300a pack of what a pulling right out of their caboose that's my point so it's um but but the0.53
00:47:58.760the regular the regular soldiers in in the uh iranian army the ones that aren't the irgc zealots
00:48:04.520i i think that's ultimately when when those those generals that aren't the zealots are going to have
00:48:10.580to turn against their government and take out the mullahs until because it's apparently we can't get
00:48:16.160guns to the to the to the people but uh it once we have a coup with and it's going to take pressure
00:48:22.560it's going to take that soldier going well heck i can't afford that i can't provide for my family
00:48:28.680but i have this gun and i the americans are doing this again because of the irgc zealots
00:48:36.420maybe i'm going to go take out the mullahs and the irgc well that's the thing is the pressure
00:48:41.620campaign. We have the greatest intelligence in the world, regardless of what anybody wants to0.67
00:48:46.720tell you, not MI6 or the Mossad. America's got the greatest intel in the world. You witnessed
00:48:52.020it firsthand. We know where their leaders are. We know what bunker they're hiding in. We know
00:48:56.860what building they're hiding in to the absolute pinpoint location. We know where they are.
00:49:02.560If you want to put the pressure campaign on, you start chipping away. You take more of them out.
00:49:07.600You take more until eventually there. I mean, he wiped away the whole first front and the second front.
00:49:12.000He says we're now on the third layer of the onion of leadership there.
00:49:16.920Start putting the pressure campaign on it there if you if you want to put the pressure, but making threats and not following through.
00:49:22.480They think it's a joke and they're laughing in his face. And I think, you know, if there's no deal to be made, he has to figure out it should take an hour.
00:49:32.160Are they serious or not? I don't think they're serious. So what's the next step?
00:49:35.520You've got to start making some moves to level this thing,
00:49:40.580level the playing field, burn down the next layer,
00:49:42.940burn down the next layer, burn down the next layer,
00:49:44.620until they're in a position, Russ, where they have nothing left.
00:49:48.620And either the people take back their country or the IRGC turns.
00:49:53.760It's the only two ways I see this thing ending.
00:49:56.220Well, the zealots aren't going to turn.
00:50:29.740You know, that's why the Mossad is so good, because because these people are sometimes are willing to take a million dollars to, you know, to, you know, have someone get whacked.
00:50:40.620And we also have our own CIA who are deeply embedded.
00:50:44.300I mean, just about every single place in the world.
00:50:47.300Well, it's in some places it's very difficult, especially in with tribal tribal.0.97
00:50:52.300And I dealt with some of this when I was working with Afghanistan in particular because these people will not trust anyone unless they're known parts of their tribal community.0.94
00:51:04.780Just like, you know, with Tora Bora and that whole thing, we were paying off the tribal leaders and they were saying, OK, I'll take your money.0.99
00:51:12.040Then when it came down to it, they're like, yeah, maybe we're not going to do that.
00:51:16.120Um, so it's, but, uh, if you bribe the right people, they'll tell you who the bad guys
00:51:22.440are, where they're at and, and when you can drop, uh, you know, the right munitions on
00:51:43.360And they're stealing – President Trump is in the playground, and they're spinning around, and every time he spins around, they're stealing his lunch money.
00:51:52.740So he's got to do what's got to be done.
00:51:58.720And if you could – I think it would be done quick.
00:52:01.640So people will forget about it by the time the November midterms come up.
00:52:06.120But he just can't keep playing this, oh, okay, you know,
00:52:10.160I'm going to string it on so that we can keep, you know,