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00:01:15.020 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:01:26.200 Great to have you with us today.

00:01:28.080 Marxist-Dim Attorney General Merrick Garland is set to testify before Jim Jordan's House Judiciary Committee this morning.

00:01:35.240 Republicans expected to grill Garland on the criminal indictment of Hunter Biden brought by Special Counsel David Weiss and, of course, the political persecution of President Trump by Garland's Marxist-Dim Jackal Jack Smith.

00:01:50.420 Many in the House are in favor of impeaching Merrick Garland, so it'll be fascinating to see how often Garland lies to protect his masters in the Biden White House and how often Garland lies about his persecution of a former president and leading presidential candidate.

00:02:06.660 The Biden investigation is picking up their tempo.

00:02:10.220 House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer has announced his first hearing on the Joe Biden impeachment inquiry set for next Thursday.

00:02:18.480 Comer says the hearing will be to lay out his case and all the evidence his team has uncovered on the Biden crime family.

00:02:25.720 Comer has also announced that as early as this week, he'll be subpoenaing Hunter and Jim Biden's bank records for the American people to see where the Bidens got all their ill-gained money.

00:02:37.920 Comer says the Bidens have tried to intimidate witnesses throughout his investigation, and if President Biden is innocent, he should have no issue complying with the committee's investigation.

00:02:48.980 Everyone in America knows that the Biden family has taken in over $20 million from foreign oligarchs, and they can't say a single thing they did to earn this money.

00:02:58.700 So if Joe Biden wants to do what he said he would do when he was running for president and be the most transparent president in the history of America, he can comply with our simple request.

00:03:09.700 If he's innocent, then he'll make us look bad. But instead of complying with our request and being transparent with his personal finances, he set up a war room in the White House.

00:03:20.140 He's suing whistleblowers who have bravely come forward to tell the truth about how their credible investigation was obstructed, and they continue to do everything in their power to obstruct this investigation.

00:03:32.780 Comer has conducted the most professional and thorough investigation I've seen in my career of covering politics.

00:03:39.140 Perhaps another man who needs to be investigated is Dr. Anthony Fauci.

00:03:44.000 Before retiring, Fauci was the highest-paid public servant in the United States, earning almost a half million dollars a year, $480,000, 80,000 more than the president makes.

00:03:56.520 And according to a new FOIA request, Fauci and his wife netted $2 million during the COVID pandemic from investments, prizes, paid speaking fees, and royalties.

00:04:06.580 The Fauci's net worth now exceeds $11 million.

00:04:10.600 January 6th, Ray Epps, the man who's been accused of being an FBI plant in the January 6th demonstrations and riot, has been charged by the Department of Justice for his role on January 6th.

00:04:24.140 The DOJ charged Epps with knowingly and with intent to impede and disrupt the orderly conduct of government business and official functions, engage in disorderly and disruptive conduct.

00:04:35.080 That's a misdemeanor, that's a misdemeanor, by the way.

00:04:37.840 Epps accused of leading and encouraging groups of protesters to enter the Capitol.

00:04:42.720 Epps himself never wound up going in there.

00:04:45.600 Far different charges than what Proud Boys leader Enrique Terrio received.

00:04:50.560 Terrio, who was never even there on January 6th, was just sentenced to 22 years in prison.

00:04:56.140 RINO Kevin McCarthy and a House Republican leadership have withdrawn a procedural vote on a proposed short-term funding stopgap, also referred to as a continuing resolution.

00:05:09.380 The pulling of the vote marks the latest setback for Kevin McCarthy as the House Freedom Caucus has waged combat on McCarthy and his long-standing RINO ways.

00:05:19.500 Let's bring in our guest today to take all of this up and to offer his perspective, his considerable knowledge.

00:05:25.820 Joining us now is the President of Judicial Watch, Tom Fenton.

00:05:29.680 Tom, great to have you with us here on The Great America Show again.

00:05:32.720 Let's start, if we may, with what seems to be a Republican conference in the House now in turmoil.

00:05:40.180 The Conservatives, the Freedom Caucus, and others don't want to proceed with a short-term solution, so there won't be one.

00:05:46.660 Again, another continuing resolution, another fig leaf dreamed up by Speaker McCarthy.

00:05:52.360 Your reaction to just how much turmoil we're likely to see over the next week or two?

00:05:58.380 Well, you know, I'm hoping there are opportunities they're followed up on, Lou.

00:06:02.520 It's, you know, the internal bickering of the Republicans is, you know, kind of a distraction, I think, from the main issue,

00:06:10.960 which is right now there's an opportunity to leverage the continuing resolution fight, meaning they've got to pass this somehow.

00:06:19.220 They need to do something in the next two weeks to keep the government open.

00:06:23.420 And my question for Republicans and honest Democrats, assuming there are any in the House,

00:06:28.520 is what are you willing to shut the government down?

00:06:30.580 What are you willing to say no, no government money unless this is done?

00:06:34.100 And I would submit that what has to be on that list are three or four things.

00:06:40.640 One is defunding the prosecutions of Trump and other innocent Americans,

00:06:46.900 defunding a censorship of tens of billions of Americans that the Biden administration continues to engage in,

00:06:54.380 defunding the invasion funded and aided and embedded by Biden,

00:07:00.760 meaning no money to settle illegal aliens, money only used to return aliens to their home 0.57

00:07:07.480 or back across the border, and protecting our military in the short term from the Marxist propaganda

00:07:15.280 that's being foisted upon them.

00:07:17.540 There are probably other topics that your listeners would want to see taken care of.

00:07:22.220 And the secret that Congress doesn't want you to know and want Americans to know is that

00:07:26.540 everything they hate about what the Biden administration is doing in the next two weeks

00:07:31.640 could be defunded because of this leverage of the continuing resolution.

00:07:37.260 I think you're exactly right.

00:07:38.840 And the conservatives, at least, I have a strong instinct and have made,

00:07:44.320 apparently, some very principled judgments and intend that there not be a continuing resolution

00:07:50.880 and that there are demands for responsible or as responsible a position can be achieved right now

00:08:00.120 on the budget levels, spending levels.

00:08:04.880 And Speaker McCarthy is right now trying to game the system again.

00:08:09.560 He's playing cute.

00:08:11.080 He is as weak-kneed and duplicitous as I think we've had in the speakerships.

00:08:18.880 And so, what, Paul Ryan?

00:08:21.820 I mean, that's what he looks like, an acolyte of Paul Ryan.

00:08:25.900 Ineffective, pretentious, self-important, and untalented.

00:08:34.100 And there's a question of competency, right?

00:08:38.020 And the concern is that when he was brought into the speakership,

00:08:42.360 well, we're going to have all this done.

00:08:44.100 We're going to have all regular order.

00:08:45.760 All the appropriation bills are going to be done.

00:08:48.920 And we're not going to be jamming ourselves again.

00:08:52.780 And I think there was one that was done.

00:08:57.300 And maybe there'll be one or two done by the end of the month.

00:09:00.620 Now, that's three out of 12 at best.

00:09:03.700 You're right.

00:09:03.880 This was all supposed to be done by June, Lou.

00:09:08.120 And, you know, for all this talk about him being a consensus figure that can manage conservatives

00:09:14.800 and the so-called moderates in the party, he hasn't been able to do that.

00:09:20.740 Otherwise, these bills would have been passed already.

00:09:22.480 He really is.

00:09:25.640 He really is a pretender, isn't he?

00:09:28.920 A poseur.

00:09:30.340 And he has, he had, I think he's now completely lost that opportunity,

00:09:35.320 but he had the opportunity to be a great speaker because of all of those moment,

00:09:42.060 all of these momentous forces and issues that are colliding at one time is truly historic.

00:09:50.980 And, indeed, he had that opportunity, and right now he has whiffed in every direction.

00:09:58.520 He has no idea what to do next strategically, substantively,

00:10:04.620 or based in any kind of ethical or moral or principled stand for what is the right thing.

00:10:12.820 This right thing can be amorphous, but right now the right thing is clear and concrete

00:10:18.940 and specific as it has ever been.

00:10:20.980 We have a government that is out of control, spending 33, to the point of this moment,

00:10:27.140 $33 trillion in debt.

00:10:30.480 That is just about, we're approaching doubling the GDP.

00:10:36.360 By the time you get another $17 trillion there, you've doubled the GDP.

00:10:40.800 And this country will be in deep, we're already in deep trouble fiscally.

00:10:45.800 And we have a Marxist party that hates America.

00:10:51.360 They hate Americans. 0.64

00:10:52.460 They hate everything that that money is supposed to go to,

00:10:56.120 like a justice system that which every man and woman in this country has a right to presumption of innocence,

00:11:05.260 due process, constitutional rights,

00:11:07.740 all of which now are being negated or neutralized by this Marxist-Dem Biden regime.

00:11:14.800 And why even decent working people who happen to be Democrats don't yet get that?

00:11:23.880 I don't know.

00:11:25.140 Your thoughts.

00:11:26.100 Well, you know, the party, unfortunately, the Democratic Party is contending with their, you know,

00:11:34.320 this rising communist wing.

00:11:36.060 You know, typically they have been run by corrupt corporatists and, you know,

00:11:40.740 who've come to terms with big labor.

00:11:46.400 Now you've got this rising communist wing that, you know,

00:11:49.000 all rules are getting thrown out the window and there's this opposition politically

00:11:54.940 and then obviously their cultural allies on the outside to the institutions of our nation.

00:12:00.480 And they want to overthrow them and we're funding it.

00:12:05.120 You know, so if you're concerned about law enforcement being politicized in such a way

00:12:10.920 that the federal government's jailing their enemies, you know,

00:12:15.100 they want a Stalinist show trial in Georgia, you know, DOJ monies,

00:12:20.240 taxpayer monies go to subsidize that prosecutor's office down there.

00:12:25.680 Why are we giving her any money now? 1.00

00:12:27.240 You know, these are all questions that should be asked within the next two weeks.

00:12:32.000 So you're highlighting some of the issues, Lou.

00:12:33.980 And my question is, well, where's the opposition?

00:12:37.560 Where's the principled opposition, both within the Democratic Party, I would argue,

00:12:41.940 they should be held accountable too.

00:12:44.580 But secondly, you know, the House Republicans, they say they're against this.

00:12:50.160 Yet to date, they've fully funded it.

00:12:52.580 And based on what I'm seeing, the latest deal is they're trying to slide through with some conservatives.

00:13:02.300 They're trying to, you know, just get their budget cuts.

00:13:05.240 And I'm saying, well, that's not good enough.

00:13:07.160 We need to stop the damage now.

00:13:09.160 We can't wait for next year.

00:13:11.080 Exactly.

00:13:11.680 Stop Donald Trump and being thrown in jail.

00:13:14.300 We got to do it now.

00:13:15.800 You know, we can't wait till next year to stop them from censoring tens of millions of Americans.

00:13:21.780 Right now, we need to do it.

00:13:23.280 What are we going to do?

00:13:23.820 Let another million or two people cross the border?

00:13:26.920 But where's the urgency in protecting our nation?

00:13:30.800 The urgency?

00:13:32.800 The only urgency I can detect is another opportunity for the speaker to stand before cameras and microphones

00:13:41.100 and be given the opportunity not to say anything at all.

00:13:45.200 He has become truly a puppet himself, a puppet of the Uniparty, the establishment, the deep state, whatever you want to call it.

00:13:55.520 He is a tool of the Marxist Dems and the Biden regime.

00:13:58.880 There is no doubt of that.

00:13:59.980 Why do you suppose he pushed aside the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, the chairman of the Oversight Committee,

00:14:07.840 the chairman of Ways and Means over the weekend so that he could hold the, if you will,

00:14:14.220 the focus of all of the networks over the weekend to spew the drivel that he did?

00:14:21.040 It makes no sense.

00:14:22.560 He's weakening the party with every appearance and with every, you know, halting, difficult to comprehend utterance that he makes.

00:14:33.700 We're talking with Tom Fitton, a man that you understand clearly and who understands this political world of ours clear as a bell.

00:14:43.140 We'll be right back with Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch.

00:14:46.440 In just one moment, please stay with us.

00:14:52.560 We're back talking with Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch.

00:14:58.260 Tom, you and Judicial Watch are indispensable watchdogs over this government of ours,

00:15:05.200 a federal government, I would argue, that has been completely taken over by the Marxist Dems and the Biden regime,

00:15:11.960 if you will, the Obama-Biden regime.

00:15:14.620 Your thoughts about why even the conservative Republicans want to talk budget at a moment of historical crisis like this.

00:15:27.600 Why are they so, I guess, inured to the realities of this moment, which is existential, I believe, for the republic

00:15:39.080 and for every American who truly loves this country?

00:15:42.320 Well, I think the challenge is, you know, because many of them are really good conservatives, right?

00:15:48.800 And they're focused on the spending issue.

00:15:51.020 And I think, you know, and I tactically, you know, maybe it's a political discussion.

00:15:56.840 I think the spending issue is a symptom of the corruption that has to be addressed, right?

00:16:02.500 And if folks use the federal government as a piggy bank to line their pockets, take care of their friends,

00:16:12.520 of course, spending is going to be out of control.

00:16:14.980 If there's a control by lawless criminals who, you know, want to pursue a far-left communist agenda,

00:16:24.280 of course, the government spending is going to be out of control.

00:16:27.080 So I think accountability, defunding the worst of the abuses is inexorably linked to sound budget management, really.

00:16:37.420 And it kind of shows you because of this inflection of the CR, right, there's an opportunity to shut this down.

00:16:46.080 And it highlights that everyone who tells you that these budget issues are separate from these corruption issues we're talking about.

00:16:54.280 Well, that veil's been lifted.

00:16:56.740 That can't be taken at face value anymore because the secret's out.

00:17:04.760 And, of course, it's not a secret.

00:17:05.960 It makes constitutional sense.

00:17:07.940 The Justice Department uses tax money to abuse people.

00:17:10.820 We know that now, and Congress doesn't seem to want to do anything about it.

00:17:16.300 Now, there are some members.

00:17:19.140 Congressman Clyde is going to be pushing at least an appropriations measure, I don't know,

00:17:25.540 in the context of the CR or a larger appropriations measure, to defund prosecutions of Trump,

00:17:35.320 both in the Justice Department and in New York and Fulton County.

00:17:38.440 There are other similar measures out there.

00:17:41.420 So there are a few who want to, you know, make people vote on this.

00:17:45.560 And we should highlight and raise them up.

00:17:48.540 Right.

00:17:49.340 I agree with that to a point.

00:17:53.180 And I think the congressman is to be commended for what he's trying to do and others.

00:17:58.960 The conservative wing of the party right now, I think, is all that stands between us and the collapse of the republic.

00:18:08.440 So I'm not saying anything lightly or disparagingly and intentionally, certainly, about that group of patriots.

00:18:18.100 They've demonstrated themselves from the beginning of the 118th Congress to be true patriots and true heroes.

00:18:24.940 But we are at a point where, and you're pointing to this, we are at a point where we have only one enemy right now that's more powerful than the Marxist left,

00:18:39.700 and that is time itself.

00:18:40.940 The longer we persist in the pretense that time is on our side and that we have time to educate, I love the way the Republicans say this, educate the public.

00:18:55.480 The public is educated.

00:18:57.500 They've been watching these hearings.

00:18:58.980 They know it.

00:18:59.600 Seventy percent of the country knows that President Trump is being persecuted politically, and every motivation in his persecution is political.

00:19:10.560 Poll after poll confirms that.

00:19:12.960 Joe Biden has a 39 percent approval rating, the lowest since Jimmy Carter.

00:19:18.220 We know that.

00:19:19.100 What in hell would be stopping real patriots in leadership in the Republican Party?

00:19:26.160 And, yes, I'm talking about McConnell, and I am talking about Thune, and I am talking about Barrasso.

00:19:32.900 I am talking about Cornyn and Kevin McCarthy, the speaker.

00:19:40.120 They aren't doing a thing that would suggest that there is any urgency, any alarm whatsoever, and that this is not a constitutional crisis.

00:19:48.960 It is, and it damn well better be, and the conflict should be joined by the Republicans immediately.

00:19:54.640 Don't you agree?

00:19:56.980 Yeah, and it's a constitutional conflict without precedent, right?

00:20:01.660 And, you know, the goal, you don't indict someone, well, really five times over five months if you count the superseding indictment by the Justice Department.

00:20:12.200 So he's been indicted three times by the Justice Department, one by New York, one in Fulton County.

00:20:17.840 You don't do that to a man unless you want to put him in jail, and they're desperate to put him in jail next year.

00:20:23.380 And in many ways, the indictments have already ruined the election, compromised the election.

00:20:33.360 And, you know, if I were in Congress, I'd be thinking of ways to mitigate that damage by checking those abuses.

00:20:41.400 Heck, you know, let me go a little bit further.

00:20:43.380 If you think Joe Biden is a crook, why would you continue to vote?

00:20:48.700 Why would you take advantage of this continuing resolution and be willing to shut down government unless he resigns?

00:20:55.580 Exactly.

00:20:56.760 Exactly.

00:20:57.580 So there are the, you know, so this is the thing.

00:21:00.360 Your listeners should be calling their members of Congress and asking them how they're going to use the budget process over the next two weeks, this continuing resolution fight, to ensure this corruption is defunded and defanged.

00:21:17.080 202-225-3121.

00:21:21.060 202-225-3121.

00:21:23.660 It's the Capitol Hill switchboard.

00:21:25.660 Figure out who your member of Congress is and say, I want to speak to so-and-so.

00:21:29.020 So they'll patch it through and professionally, insistently, and directly communicate with your members of Congress.

00:21:38.160 And certainly you bolster what the House may want to do in the Senate.

00:21:42.740 Talk to your senators as well.

00:21:44.460 Let them know that you expect them to support this move, hopefully, that will come from the House to rein in the deep state.

00:21:54.180 I couldn't agree with you more.

00:21:56.040 And the number is 202-225-3171, folks.

00:22:00.180 We'll have it on our website and every other place from here in perpetuity.

00:22:05.920 We just got word that the House Oversight Committee will subpoena, are you ready, Hunter Biden and James Biden's bank records as early as?

00:22:17.240 This week, God bless you, God bless you, Oversight Committee and Chairman James Comer.

00:22:23.840 Your reaction to that development?

00:22:26.780 It's a welcome development.

00:22:28.260 It's one, you know, better late than never, right?

00:22:31.700 Because we've been waiting for this type of activity to take place.

00:22:36.820 And what McCarthy did in terms of the right thing is, you know, better late than never in terms of beginning the inquiry.

00:22:46.280 Something I've been calling for.

00:22:48.180 I'm sure I've talked about it with you, Lou.

00:22:49.900 I've talked about how all these committees, all their investigations needed to be escalated into impeachment inquiry so they would have better chances at court and politically in getting information that they need.

00:23:02.480 And that's what he finally has done.

00:23:04.140 And what's remarkable about this in impeachment inquiry, there are three committees now charged with the impeachment inquiry.

00:23:12.640 You have Commerce Committee, the Judiciary Committee, led by Jordan, and the House Ways and Means Committee, which is the tax committee.

00:23:21.540 I think it's Congressman Smith.

00:23:23.760 So Jason Smith.

00:23:25.440 Yeah, right.

00:23:26.280 And so there are three there are three impeachment inquiries.

00:23:30.880 Right.

00:23:32.240 Into Biden.

00:23:33.060 And that's welcome.

00:23:35.180 Let's hurry up and move it along and get those records, get that testimony.

00:23:40.660 You know, bring Hunter in yesterday.

00:23:42.900 I couldn't agree with you anymore.

00:23:47.120 And at the same time, we have another issue that I think really should be ginned up as well by this by this House of Representatives.

00:23:57.800 And that is a separate committee, a special committee, a commission, whatever you want to call it, to focus like a just like the broadest laser that you can possibly apply with great heat to the issue of electoral integrity and to find out exactly what's going on and to come up with recommendations and to facilitate an honest election in 2020.

00:24:25.680 Because we do not want to watch any candidate in the Republican Party for president or Senate or anywhere else go into into 2024 without an organization, without understanding precisely the laws.

00:24:39.760 And to make certain that they have representatives in every damn precinct in the country, great American citizens standing guard over our democratic process.

00:24:49.580 Because if we stand back like fools, like Ronna McDaniel would love us to do one more time and all of her associates.

00:24:59.080 And I'm talking about the rhinos and the Republican Party, roll them over and put real patriots, put America first, make America great again.

00:25:10.680 Americans in charge of that daggum election. 1.00

00:25:14.300 Your thoughts before we go to a quick pause here.

00:25:18.860 Yeah.

00:25:19.180 I mean, some states have gotten, you know, gotten ahead of the issue and passed some more stringent measures.

00:25:25.440 They ban Zuckerberg's and put in more sensible security measures for elections, all of which are necessary, but certainly not sufficient, given the broad nature of the left's attack on our election systems.

00:25:38.640 And, you know, in Michigan, for instance, they put forward rules that would make it much easier to steal elections because they've decimated any of the security measures in place or put new measures in place that would make it impossible to counteract and let alone figure out whether it was voter fraud.

00:25:58.600 So it's a significant challenge and that clock is ticking at the federal level if there's going to be any federal response to this.

00:26:10.020 But, you know, given the way Congress is, it's going to be nearly impossible to get anything through.

00:26:14.940 It would be easier to get Trump to be – let's put it this way.

00:26:18.600 The Democrats would – you would face less resistance for Democrats forcing Biden to resign than getting election integrity measures passed.

00:26:28.600 Without a doubt.

00:26:29.440 As a matter of fact, I mean, they would be enthusiastic about getting Biden out of there and Kamala.

00:26:35.540 There would be probably a special bounty and bonus available to anyone who could come up with that solution very quickly.

00:26:41.980 And I understand that the good governor of California is among those who's seeking that bounty.

00:26:48.440 We're talking with Tom Fenton, the president of Judicial Watch.

00:26:51.740 When we come back, do you think we should think about defunding the entire Biden administration?

00:27:00.900 Why not defund, first and foremost, not only the FBI and DOJ, but isn't it time to be honest about why I'll corrupt our judiciary?

00:27:09.460 How about defunding the Washington, D.C. courts en masse, period, full stop?

00:27:15.660 We're coming right back.

00:27:17.080 Stay with us.

00:27:17.720 We're back with Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch.

00:27:26.760 He and his organization doing great work, as always, in oversight.

00:27:31.420 There is so much to look over, isn't there, to watch over, Tom?

00:27:39.220 I mean, I don't know how in the world.

00:27:41.280 I don't know when we've ever.

00:27:43.380 Well, let's just be honest.

00:27:44.460 We've never been in a bigger mess than this, in my opinion.

00:27:47.160 Your thoughts?

00:27:47.740 Yeah, I mean, when you think about all the federal agencies, for example, you've got the military kind of eating itself and destroying its own leadership potential by force-feeding our troops

00:28:01.100 and our rising leadership in the various military academies, this anti-American critical theory, this Marxist theory, propaganda.

00:28:13.480 You have the promotion of censorship vis-a-vis the CDC and Department of Homeland Security.

00:28:23.460 You've got the Department of Homeland Security actually enabling an invasion rather than preventing it and actually helping illegal aliens get to where they're not allowed to be.

00:28:32.880 And contrary, contrary to federal law, you have the public health agencies with this COVID mania pushing vaccines that are largely that have been rejected as untrustworthy by the American people for good reason.

00:28:50.860 But approved, but approved.

00:28:52.480 But approved.

00:28:53.000 By the FDA.

00:28:55.860 So no one trusts them.

00:28:57.660 And then, you know, then we've got the foreign policy debacles.

00:29:02.680 And on top of that, we have Biden who is compromised by his own corruption, most of which relates to foreign money.

00:29:12.660 All of what you say is true.

00:29:14.860 Why is there any pretense on the part of the Republicans?

00:29:19.900 I understand the complicity of the national corporate media.

00:29:23.100 I understand the interest that is served by the deep state in supporting this corrupt politician whose incipient momentum was created by none other than Barack Obama.

00:29:39.660 I understand all of that.

00:29:41.500 But why can't people understand that if they do anything this president asks, they're serving communist China, they are serving Romania, they're serving Iran.

00:29:53.480 Why can't the leadership of the Republican Party understand this is the time to stand against everything that is corrupt in our federal government?

00:30:03.500 And that is the entirety of the federal government.

00:30:06.420 Yeah, I mean, maybe maybe your description of it is so overwhelming to them, they don't know what to do.

00:30:14.560 I don't know.

00:30:15.520 I mean, I think some of them do understand the crisis we're in.

00:30:20.680 And I, you know, certainly decimating funding for the for the federal agencies that are out of control ought to be in the mix.

00:30:30.840 Defunding the worst of the worst in terms of individual employees of the government ought to be in the mix.

00:30:37.420 Defunding the worst of the worst in terms of the abuse of the agencies.

00:30:40.960 You know, we're talking about Jack Smith or denying Justice Department funding to those who would destroy a republic in New York and Fulton County, Georgia, with this election, with these election interference efforts to jail a former president based on, you know, fanciful, fictional pretext.

00:30:59.040 And then, of course, we have our nation that we're losing to the to the invaders.

00:31:07.580 Well, it seems to me that you can figure in.

00:31:10.540 How about this, Lou?

00:31:11.620 This is the deal I'd like to make.

00:31:13.660 Is there one thing they'd shut the government down that the government's doing badly and they don't want to fund?

00:31:18.780 Is there just one thing?

00:31:21.700 That's a good question.

00:31:22.620 You know, pick one.

00:31:24.800 I can't.

00:31:26.080 Every agency is corrupt.

00:31:28.220 It's been corrupted by the Marxist Dems.

00:31:30.860 It's been corrupted by the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy.

00:31:34.360 And as we've been looking at all of this, I mean, the idea that back in the Trump years, when wages were starting to recover, when the economy was growing, when the country was prosperous.

00:31:51.140 Think about it.

00:31:51.680 That was two and a half years ago, hit by a virus that we now know was engineered.

00:31:57.720 It did originate in the Wuhan laboratories.

00:32:00.580 We do know that Dr. Fauci was the highest paid person in the federal government, that he and his wife, according to the Daily Mail, netted $2 million during the so-called COVID pandemic.

00:32:15.560 It was really the China Wuhan virus.

00:32:19.000 We know that the FBI had four directors who in succession lied to the Congress of the United States.

00:32:27.380 We do know they tried to frame a candidate for president.

00:32:31.240 We do know they cooperated, collaborated with the DNC and the campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton to destroy his candidacy and then to destroy his presidency.

00:32:42.680 We know this.

00:32:44.240 We know, as a matter of fact, that there's been political persecution of this man for eight years with no finding of wrongdoing whatsoever, whether through a special counsel or the impeachments.

00:32:56.440 Two of them.

00:32:57.040 And here we are again now with local DAs, state attorneys general and a jackal of a junkyard dog special prosecutor who is nothing more than a Marxist hack attacking this president daily and who wanted to gag him as the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party.

00:33:19.340 And a former president who will defeat Joe Biden or whomever is remaining of that tawdry regime come November of 2024.

00:33:32.060 You're thinking.

00:33:33.500 Oh, wow.

00:33:34.080 So, yeah, I mean, you're highlighting a lot of the crisis and, you know, I think that there's a test coming up, right?

00:33:43.260 There's a test coming up for the leadership in the House and whether they fail or pass.

00:33:48.480 We're going to find out in the next two weeks.

00:33:51.760 And I think one of the interesting outcomes could be a new speaker, given what some of his colleagues are saying about his leadership failures to date.

00:33:59.920 I don't know. You know, the frustrating thing that we've had with Speaker McCarthy directly is that Judicial Watch had been seeking the January 6 videos, right?

00:34:08.680 Through a common law right of public access in a federal court case.

00:34:15.420 And the Pelosi Congress said, no, you can't have the records.

00:34:19.860 They're not, you know, it's too sensitive.

00:34:22.760 They're not public records under the law and such.

00:34:26.740 And, you know, that legal position hasn't changed under McCarthy.

00:34:30.620 So McCarthy's taken the legal position of Nancy Pelosi and told us under law we can't have access to these videos.

00:34:39.300 And making them available in part through a laborious process here in Washington isn't the same as making them widely available to the American people.

00:34:49.080 You can't. I don't understand. Well, I do understand.

00:34:53.240 But it's really terrible that Speaker McCarthy is hiding this information from the American people and doing just what Pelosi did.

00:35:02.020 And it is horrific and gut rending, heartbreaking what that we cannot come up with a solution to to bring those political prisoners of the Marxist left

00:35:13.400 who've been incarcerated in the gulags of Washington, D.C. and in Byron's, particularly in Virginia and around and other facilities in some cases.

00:35:26.200 I mean, and he is sitting there piecemealing out those videos, 40 some odd thousand hours of videos that are exculpatory.

00:35:37.680 Absolutely. We it's it's just I don't understand why there isn't a furor in this country about the about the simple reality.

00:35:47.200 We've lost our our sense of obligation and duty to our fellow citizens to protect their rights just as strongly as we would insist upon our rights.

00:35:56.920 We are a nation in turmoil. We are in pain.

00:36:00.920 We can argue about what the sources are, the reasons, the complex forces at work here.

00:36:06.620 But simply put, the Republican Party is filled, filled with gutless, indifferent rhinos who think they are just as smart as the Democrats. 0.99

00:36:17.580 So they act like them and forestall the conservatives and the fundamentalists of our party who are committed to that constitution.

00:36:26.920 I can find a number of ways to say it, but your reaction to that thought, if you would.

00:36:32.960 Well, what was it that who what did Newt Gingrich once say about Bob Dole?

00:36:38.420 Tax collector for the welfare state.

00:36:42.000 You know, Republicans have to decide whether they're just going to be a check writer for the deep state or whether they're going to do something about it.

00:36:49.320 And I think the reason that things are happening the way they are, to the extent they are, that that good things are happening, meaning an impeachment inquiry is finally taking place.

00:37:01.120 There is a push among some conservatives on the House to defund the issues that we're talking about.

00:37:07.240 The destruction of our elections through the prosecutions of Trump is because people are sharing their views with their members.

00:37:17.260 The members are hearing about this at home, and that's why there's this agitation that you see in Congress right now in this discord within the Republican caucus, because they're all hearing it.

00:37:30.260 Some of them want to ignore it.

00:37:32.680 Others want to follow where the voters are and provide leadership for their concerns.

00:37:37.840 Well, Tom Fenton, as always, I've enjoyed our conversation, and I know that our audience is delighted to hear you and your thoughts and to know what good hands Judicial Watch is in.

00:37:55.400 We're indebted to your Judicial Watch organization and all that you're doing for the country, and we appreciate so much those efforts.

00:38:05.640 Your concluding thoughts.

00:38:06.920 We always give our guests the last word, Tom.

00:38:09.440 The floor is yours.

00:38:11.520 Well, as always, Lou, you know, no matter what Congress does or doesn't do, Judicial Watch will be pursuing these issues.

00:38:18.020 We've got litigation about the border, litigation about what the Hunter Biden family crime syndicate is up to, litigation on COVID and the vaccines, fighting in court to save and clean, ensure our elections are cleaner.

00:38:37.280 So, no matter the concern that any of your listeners have, it's likely Judicial Watch is doing something about it, unlike too many of our brethren here in Washington.

00:38:49.360 Tom Fenton, thank you so much, and I hope everyone listening will take Tom's suggestion.

00:38:56.220 The number is 202-225-3121.

00:39:00.560 202-225-3171.

00:39:04.280 Call your representatives and senators and tell them just exactly what you think needs to be done and when it should be done to save the republic.

00:39:13.360 Tom Fenton, thank you, sir.

00:39:14.600 God bless you.

00:39:15.640 You're welcome.

00:39:16.400 Thank you, Lou.

00:39:17.320 Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch.

00:39:19.820 Thanks so much, Tom, and thank you, everybody, for being with us today.

00:39:23.440 Tomorrow, we're joined by conservative journalists and hosts of The Absolute Truth on Lindell TV, Emerald Robinson.

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00:39:43.960 Thanks, everybody.

00:39:44.980 God bless you, and may God bless and save America.

The Great America Show - September 20, 2023

DEFUND THE FEDS

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