DEI HAS DIED IN AMERICA
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Summary
Pres. Donald J. Trump has a new sheriff in town and the Mexican drug cartels are under control. The border situation with the cartels is under control and the drug cartels have been declared terrorist organizations and if we find them, we are going to blow them up.
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hello everybody and welcome to the great america show it's great to have you with us thanks so
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much for joining us today happy friday folks hope you all had a great weekend looking forward to
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the weekend as much as i am well the deportation rates continued today and last night and the day
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before that and every day since president trump took office on january 20th president trump making
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it clear he's not playing any games with these criminal cartels he's not playing any games with
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these criminal illegal aliens we're in this country illegally they committed crimes and it's
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time to be deported as i said in yesterday's episode we are a nation of law order and borders
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it doesn't get much simpler than that president trump's first administration back in 2016 to 2020
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he floated the idea or was reported at least that he had floated the idea of maybe bombing some drug
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facilities drug facilities that are producing fentanyl and cocaine and marijuana in mexico this
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is how the cartels make their money and they peddle it through the border with nobody stopping them
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at least that was the last four years there's a new sheriff in town in case you haven't figured it
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out or the marxist dems haven't figured it out and that's president trump and his administration
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secretary of defense pete hegseth was on with fox and friends this morning and was asked
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about the prospect of blowing up these drug facilities if we can find them if we know where
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they are maybe we already know where they are take a listen to secretary of defense hegseth
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the drug cartels have been declared terrorist organizations and if you find that and we know
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if there's al-qaeda we're gonna hit them i don't care if you're in somalia sudan or in syria if we
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find that they continue to fire at our border control and they continue to put fentanyl into our country
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as the secretary of defense are you permitted now to go after them in mexico or wherever they are
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brian um i don't want to get ahead of the president and i won't that's ultimately going
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to be his decision but let me be clear all options will be on the table uh if we're dealing with what
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are designated to be foreign terrorist organizations who are specifically targeting americans on our
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border and we're finally securing our border we've been securing other people's border for a very long
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time the military is orienting shifting toward an understanding of homeland defense on our sovereign
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territorial border that is something we will do and do robustly isn't that nice folks we have an
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administration that has the americans interest in its best interest it's been four long years we've
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all dealt with it we all know somebody or know somebody who knows somebody who's dealt with a drug
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overdose we've all witnessed it in our streets if you live in a deep blue city if you're fortunate enough
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to live in the streets of uh somewhere in florida or one of these deep red states you probably haven't
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had to deal with it as much as us who live in new york uh or in chicago or in la uh but nonetheless
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the trump administration seems to be getting it all under control they're just 11 days in
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we've heard from pete hegseth multiple times we've heard from other members of the cabinet and the
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administration who have been confirmed multiple times we've heard from president trump multiple times in
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just 11 days um something tells me in the first six months of his administration we're going to hear
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from president trump more than we heard from joe biden in all four years not saying much but uh
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president trump is a workhorse who all he wants to do is make america great again the marxist dams are
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doing all they can to stop him hakeem jeffries today in a press conference said he's ready to fight
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president trump and fight the administration and take it to the streets take a listen to hakeem jeffries
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we are going to fight it legislatively we are going to fight it in the courts
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and we're going to fight it in the streets what do you mean by that hakeem jeffries are you
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threatening to cause some sort of insurrection in america do you not know what happened on january 6th
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when those patriotic american terrorists decided to cause an insurrection on our streets were you not
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around for that hmm i'd love to know what hakeem jeffries meant by that by saying taking it to the
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streets uh maybe he'll clarify in the days ahead what he meant by that but to me it sounds like
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violence he's inciting some sort of violence um but this could be why the democratic party things like
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that is in such a shambles it's in the gutter nuke polling from quinnipiac who by the way tends to be
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one of the more left-leaning pollsters has the pro-child mutilation party upside down by 26 points
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57 unfavorable for the marxist ends to 31 favorable they're continuing on with their same messaging they
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ran for in 2024 it's the same messaging that got them killed in this election absolutely murdered
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gave control to the senate to the republicans gave control to the house to the republicans
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and ultimately gave them the presidency back to donald trump where he's rightfully sitting right now
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um i'm not sure what hakeem jeffries meant by that i'm not sure what the marxist ends party is
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going to do going forward uh they're set to elect a new dnc chair over this weekend uh so we'll see
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the the route they want to take um and the violence that they want to choose uh tonight at midnight
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tariffs go into effect on canada and mexico these are the tariffs that president trump promised to put on
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them if they didn't get their borders under control and yes canada too we have illegal immigration
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flowing through our northern border uh white house press secretary caroline levitt said it's
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going to start with 25 percent tariffs it'll be placed on goods from both mexico and canada
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chinese imports will be 10 on duties china of course the mass producer of fentanyl in this country
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i think 10 is is just a tiny bit too little for them um i would like to see upwards of 50 on them to
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really make it make it hit them where it hurts because they've done far too much damage this country
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to get away with it uh it would be a travesty for the american people as i said anyone who's known
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somebody who's died of a drug overdose um who gets to witness it walking on their streets that's all
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from china with the help of mexico so hopefully those tariffs uh get to work and get these people
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under control and get the stifle this drug import into america our guest today is professor william
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jacobson folks he's a cornell university law professor and he's also the founder of the
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equal protection project he joins us now professor jacobson it's great to have you with us here on
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the great america show and as i told you before you're one of lou's favorite guests you were such
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a brilliant mind so we couldn't think of a better guest to have on today uh to talk about all that's
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going on i want to play for the audience a quick clip back from 2023 ted cruz this is talking to the
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faa administrator who was brought forward by the biden administration let's play this for the
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audience and then we'll discuss it you ever flown a plane thank you for the question senator no i have
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never flown a plane so you weren't a military pilot or a commercial airline pilot no senator uh have you
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ever worked for an airline no senator uh have you ever worked as an air traffic controller no senator
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have you ever worked for a company that manufactures airplanes no senator have you ever worked for a
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company that fixes airplanes no senator faa administrator is a specialized position i'm not
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qualified to be faa administrator i have no idea how to fly a plane no one in their right mind would put
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me in charge of aviation safety because i don't have that experience i suspect most of the members of
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this committee are in a similar position the american people when they think about aviation safety when
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they think about i played in this committee a southwest airlines and fedex uh plane almost colliding in
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at austin's airport they want an faa administrator who knows why those planes crash and knows how to fix it
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to keep them safe and with all respect mr washington it gives no comfort to the flying public that their pilot
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might be a transgendered witch but doesn't actually know how to prevent the plane from crashing into
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the ground and killing them i believe your record is woefully lacking and in fact you have zero aviation
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safety experience professor i this was back in 2023 of course before the tragedy we saw that happen on
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wednesday night my background is in aviation i know what it's like i went to school for to be a pilot i am
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a pilot i know what it's like to go through training and i know what it's like for air traffic controllers
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to go to training how do we find ourself in this situation where we now have the deadliest plane crash
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in 15 years well i think we have to be very careful um the dei the quotas things like it is an
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extremely serious issue particularly when you get into technical areas like aviation safety i mean
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it is a threat whether it caused this accident will depend on what we find out more about who is in
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charge who is not in charge what went wrong so the video clip you just played is actually kind of
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shocking and frightening um that you know why was this person even nominated for that position it's
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really hard to understand i would not accept a nomination to be faa administrator i have no clue
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what i would be doing and it doesn't appear does not appear that the person in that clip who's being
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questioned by ted group has any idea what to do either it's just not the sort of thing you can learn on the
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fly it's like okay i'm going to appoint you um you know general manager of this nuclear you know uh
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energy plant it's like why would you do that and i think that's the question we ask with a lot of
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these things why are you even doing this and i think that's you know one of the questions ted
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cruz got to like why are we even here so uh i i don't want to jump to conclusions that that caused
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this crash but if it even if it didn't it's a problem that we need to address you know
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i i agree with you wholeheartedly on that uh president trump came out and mentioned it he
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obviously had some sort of information as to you know what was going on before the general public
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did the thing i do find abhorrent about this whole situation is we're now going on two days professor
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we still have bodies that are in the water this is america we have the greatest infrastructure in the
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wall in the world we still have bodies that are floating in the water that they can't get out yet
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um we have the names of the two pilots released but we don't have the name of uh the female who
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was apparently flying the plane at the time this is a government that i expect to be transparent in
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in all uh and everything back last year uh as i mentioned i went to an aeronautical school and
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while i was in school it was during the obama times and partway through my schooling i had a lot
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of friends who were in school to be air traffic controllers obama got rid of the mandate that you had
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to go to college and you had to be a professional to become an air traffic controller and i had friends
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who had just spent hundreds of thousand dollars on school they now are told they don't need it and
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you're going to be hired based on dei well lo and behold just a few years later the faa's diversity
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hiring practices are under scrutiny uh for exactly that hiring uh there's a thousand people in this
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class action lawsuit hiring based on color hiring based on race hiring based on gender how did we get to
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this point in in this country a question i often ask on this show and maybe you can answer this
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because you're a brilliant scholar mind why are we still asking on job applications what your
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ethnicity is and what your gender is and whether you're gay straight heterosexual bisexual what does
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that have to do with anything well it doesn't and i you know it gets it's grad there's a saying that
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you know collapse comes gradually then suddenly okay and we've been gradually moving towards a
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collapse of our institutions which have been completely captured by group identity politics and you can
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call it diversity equity and inclusion you can call it anti-racism you can call it critical race theory
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it's all of those things but it's an identity politics who you are and whether you get hired depends on
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what group you are serving as a proxy for so we no longer hire the individual because of the
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individual we take into account what group are you part of and so how did it get to this point it got to
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the point over the course of a decade or more how did it specifically get to this point in 2021 joe biden
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issued an executive order now rescinded by donald trump which forced the federal government to engage in
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what it called racial equity throughout everything it does so this was a man-made disaster okay it
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didn't need to be this way and he doubled down on it in 2023 with a second executive order which is
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also now rescinded so what's happened at the faa didn't start with biden as you indicate it goes back
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to the obama years but it the acceleration of the collapse has taken place because the federal government
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both in terms of hiring contracting grant making almost every aspect of it has been captured by
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a group identity ideology which again could be described in many different ways with many
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different acronyms but it elevates identity over quality and merit and the person who's hired may
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have quality and merit but that's not why they're hired right okay they're hired because of skin color
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or gender identity or something else and so we're now seeing the sudden part of the collapse that has been
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coming doesn't this professor go against every fabric that americans believe in right now that this
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country was built on that we're all the same inside uh that it doesn't matter what color your skin is we're
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all the same on the inside we all live for the same thing uh god family and country at least that's what i like
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to think doesn't this go against every fabric in our in our body uh it certainly does i mean a lot of
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people say well we're a country that was founded when there was slavery okay but that was how long
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ago was that okay at least since the mid-50s to mid-60s the civil rights laws have been passed the ideology
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of the country unabashedly is against discrimination against racial discrimination the 14th amendment equal
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protection clause applies as well as the fifth amendment um applies uh equal protection that's
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been read into it uh so at least for 70 years or 60 to 70 years the ethos of this country has not been
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to pick people based on the color of their skin just the opposite so you know if you went back to the
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1930s and 40s maybe you could make an argument that that wasn't our ethos as a country even despite
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the constitution but you can't make that anymore it's been 60 70 years we shouldn't be doing this
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right now we shouldn't be engaging it what amounts to racial retribution and that's really what it is
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that's going on uh they call it anti-racism they call it a lot of different things but it's holding
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some applicant for an air traffic controller job uh you know not giving that person that job because of
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what somebody with a similar skin color did 80 years ago how ridiculous is that we need to move
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beyond this and you know what professor that african-american that hispanic-american that
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that asian-american whatever the ethnicity may be it's a slight to them because they fought to where
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they get to get to where they are today to the job that they want based on their grades i can guarantee
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you nine and a half out of ten of those folks who've gotten a job of a certain race are offended
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by this because it's not right it should be based on your your merit and it probably sticks in the back
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of their head was i hired because i'm a different race am i hired to make a quota or was i hired because
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i was actually the best candidate for this position going back to the job applications of asking
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you know if you're male female your race ethnicity is there any legal remedy that this country can go
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through federal government state and local governments to get that off of a job application
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to get that off of a college application so that you don't even see a name yeah well it depends some
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of that data is required to be collected for statistical purposes and so the person doing the hiring really
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doesn't need to see that data but it's data the government wants to collect for whatever its reasons
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but you know in the federal government now that's banned those practices are banned since donald trump's
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executive orders and remember the federal government has a massive reach it's not just who gets hired by
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them it's who they contract with and these racial um mandates were imposed on on private businesses
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that wanted to do business so um i think it's changing i really do think that it's changing
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your mouth to god's ears i want to take a quick break here when we return president trump
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one of his executive orders went into effect at 5 p.m today to remove all pronouns from employee
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signatures isn't that it's like something so common professor uh trump's department of education also
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opening an investigation into schools alleged discrimination of white students go figure
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we're coming right back with professor william jacobson the brilliant law mind cornell university
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folks we're back with professor william jacobson of cornell university
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i want to turn to something it was just it seems so common to me of why it shouldn't have been in
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place in the first place uh president trump at 5 p.m today one of his executive orders went into to
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effect to remove for federal workers to remove the pronouns from their employee signatures okay uh
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it's mind-blowing to me that this was there in the first place that you had to have an employee
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signature and i have family members who work for uh large corporations and they were pretty much told
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by their managers in their linkedin profiles you need to have your signature in there otherwise it's
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frowned upon have we gotten so stupid as a society uh professor that we need to tell people i'm he him
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i'm he she i'm she her i'm they them what does it come to well this is how you know kind of leftist
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ideology gets to dominate they force you to use their terminology they force you to take little
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steps that you don't want to take and then later more little steps and then more little steps so
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you know the whole pronoun thing is you know uh one of those little steps if they can get you to
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acknowledge the pronoun thing that means you're acknowledging a larger gender ideology and you're
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accepting it and maybe you want to maybe you don't want to but the the use of those pronouns is
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a combination of forcing people to adopt ideologies they may not agree with and also um really virtue
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signaling in many ways it's i'm going to show everybody that i am holier than everybody else
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because i'm going to use pronouns okay and if you don't describe them by their pronouns you're in big
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trouble in most corporations the federal government i just want to read some some briefs from this
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executive order because president trump is by no means a doctor and the most surprising part to me
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professor is that doctors who perform these surgeries i always tell people on this show and
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it may be offensive and i don't care there's no such thing as transgender you cannot change your
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gender your biological makeup is what it was at birth you can't change that so i just want to read
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uh this executive order from president trump quote it's the policy of the united states to recognize
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two sexes male and female these sexes are not changeable and are grounded in fundamental
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and incontroversial reality under my direction the executive branch will enforce all sex protective laws
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to promote this reality and the following definition shall shall govern all executive
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interpretations of application of federal law and administration policy i will just go through a
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few of them sex sex shall refer to an individual's biological classification as either male or female
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sex is not a synonym for and does not include the concept of gender identity if you are a woman
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uh if you are a male male males shall be described as a boy shall also be an adult juvenile human males
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respectively females means a person belonged to at conception to the sex that produces the large
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reproductive cells why did it take president trump to come in professor for something so common sense
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to be put into law this shouldn't even be something that we should be wasting our time on
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as a government we have so many problems with this country right now you have a border that's out of
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control you have china producing fentanyl shipping into this country wiping out people you had
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the coronavirus i mean there are so many things that are wrong with this country right now
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yet president trump is stuck here wasting time on stupidity yeah i mean this is part of the ideology
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that's taken hold in the the forced use of pronouns the use of pronouns in a signature all those sort of
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things and it got to crisis levels mostly because of what's happening with girls sports i mean i'm so
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old i remember when girls having their own sports opportunities was a feminist issue right i mean title
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nine was a feminist issue it's how girls advanced everybody recognized that well one particular girl may
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be better than one particular boy as a group men are stronger physically stronger men are physically
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faster um but this gender ideology has so twisted things that we've lost that distinction so now you
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have biological males who are also called males in girls sports and if it is well it's only you know one
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out of a thousand but there are only three spots on the podium okay you don't need a thousand people
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and we've seen many examples in connecticut and elsewhere of you know boys competing in girls sports and
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taking one of those three spots at the top that means you don't get a scholarship that means you
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don't get money for college uh and then you have the whole issue of women's prisons that i mean what
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is what really horrible stories horrible you know gut-wrenching stories of women being put in prisons
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with men who identify as women and nobody's willing to stand up to it and say wait a second what about
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the safety of women what about the women's private spaces was a feminist issue how is it that men
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are in women's locker rooms these are all serious issues and it's unfortunate it took at least for the
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federal government for donald trump to have to issue an executive order that 10 years ago people would have
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laughed about this situation but it's a very situation women are entitled to their own rights we've recognized
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that for a long time they're entitled to their spaces and let's face it this is really about women
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protecting women the men don't really care you know about this so much but a woman should not have to
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wonder who's in her locker room or who's in her bathroom uh you know and so it's common sense what he
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did it makes logical sense but we never should have gotten to this point because people went too far
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right and if you're if you look to the adverse as you and i both agree on this you're a sexist and
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you're a misogynist and you're canceled because you're insensitive to these people who decided they
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wanted to try to change their gender you can't as i said i'm not a doctor i'm just a common sense kind of
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guy as most smart people are and uh it's just crazy that it's gone this far that once again the federal
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government had to step in to stop but it didn't stop there professor it went further than that you have
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kids now in classrooms in new jersey who think that they're dogs they're called furries you send your
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kid to school and they're pretending to be animals this falls on the parents and the way that they're
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raising the kids i don't think that the kids are being raised the way they were when you were a child
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even when i was a child growing up in the late 90s or early 2000s we learned respect we learned uh you
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know that you respect elders you respect your women and uh and you lived your life like a like a
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gentleman or like a woman but now you've got all types of crazies uh kids wanted to be furries uh
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men wanted to play in women's sports and it's gotten so bad that we've had to take it up now to
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the supreme court to high courts why can't these schools just say listen this is it you're a man
00:25:54.020
you're playing in a man's sport you're a woman you're playing in a woman's sport and why can't these
00:25:57.780
schools just say you are what you are when you were born on your birth certificate yeah i mean i i don't
00:26:04.460
know i've heard the story about the furries i don't know if that's true or not it's true but it
00:26:10.220
wouldn't be shocking if it was true true okay um you know but that's not the problem the problem is
00:26:17.380
not children growing up to think they're animals it's children being told from the moment they enter
00:26:23.520
the school system that they don't really know what they are they're not a boy or a girl they're
00:26:27.940
whatever they want to be uh and it's age inappropriate you know and that's really what
00:26:32.840
went on in florida with the you know falsely labeled don't get say gay law which had nothing
00:26:39.320
to do with saying gay okay that's how they frame things it simply restricted what sort of sexual
00:26:45.680
material could be provided to children through the third grade okay you know kindergartners and you
00:26:53.640
know there's something very troubling about what seems to be an organized uh you know effort to cast
00:27:00.140
doubt in young children's minds okay and uh it's it's very sickening in many ways that that sort of
00:27:08.000
proselytizing process that seems to be going on leave the kindergartner alone please okay and what
00:27:14.960
about the parents rights why can't the parents there's litigation ongoing now about whether parents can
00:27:20.940
opt their kids out of certain things and what is it's a it's a left-wing totalitarian um you know
00:27:27.520
attitude that they must control everything including your kids you know it's very soviet like i studied
00:27:33.360
in the soviet union during part of college that you know the kids belong to the state they don't belong
00:27:39.340
to the parents and that's where we're heading in this country and it's very dangerous the attempt to
00:27:45.000
you know extricate parents from school systems the attempt to by the justice department to
00:27:49.960
prosecute you know moms and dads who maybe spoke a little too loud at the school board meeting
00:27:55.120
okay this is all a process of you know taking parents out of the equation and so how did we get
00:28:02.320
to this point we got to this point the same way we got to everything else the institutions have been
00:28:07.540
captured by the ideologues and who are advancing theories that just 10 years ago would have gotten them
00:28:15.460
laughed out of the room and now if you don't agree with it you get fired right the thing that's so
00:28:21.480
perplexing to me is that you know used to be back in the day that every kid got a a beating from their
00:28:26.740
parents you did something wrong you got a smack you got a you know whatever now you do that you go to
00:28:33.280
jail all right if you do that you're going to jail but you could mutilate your child five years old four
00:28:40.460
years old whatever you want i see these videos on instagram all the time a parent dressing their son
00:28:45.000
up as a girl singing taylor swift uh that's completely fine you could send your kid to the
00:28:50.500
you know transgender surgeries you're fine but if you you smack your kid on the rear end for doing
00:28:56.280
something wrong to teach him a lesson you're going to jail uh we've gotten so asked backwards in this
00:29:01.700
country i really just don't know how we could ever revert and come back to reality are you confident we can
00:29:08.000
i i don't know you know my attitude is um two things are not mutually exclusive um whether you're
00:29:15.280
in favor of corporal punishment or not i i would kind of you don't have to hit your kid but you also
00:29:20.140
don't have to put them through transgender surgery okay how about we do neither okay uh and i think
00:29:26.040
that's a problem i mean it's really these surgeries are horrendous they're grotesque they're offensive
00:29:33.860
uh i we're already starting the process but we're going to look back upon these three to four years
00:29:41.080
and wonder how we let this happen to children my board it's grotesque enough when it happens when
00:29:47.200
you're an adult but at least adults get to choose things but you know 11 12 14 15 year olds um there's a
00:29:55.480
reason we don't let them drive and we don't let them vote okay because they don't have the mental
00:30:00.920
mental maturity and i mean that in the brain process way to make those sort of life-altering
00:30:06.860
decisions and uh and the medical industry has been captured the medical associations have been
00:30:13.520
captured it's really horrible the stuff that's gone on in the medical industry is i keep using the word
00:30:19.980
grotesque but that's what it is when you read about these surgeries who thought this up i mean how could
00:30:25.560
you possibly do that it used to be very exceptional cases um in sweden you could get those surgeries and
00:30:31.940
so on but truly exceptional cases um now you have entire hospitals putting out videos about their
00:30:39.260
gender-affirming care which is just a euphemism for life-altering changes to a child either
00:30:45.200
pharmaceutically or uh surgically and it shouldn't have been allowed it shouldn't be allowed i mean
00:30:50.680
you know just because you've got an md doesn't allow you to do anything you want to a child
00:30:56.460
and i hope there are prosecutions down the road there was a doctor i think he was in dallas texas
00:31:01.480
uh maybe last year or so uh who spoke out against these these gender-affirming surgeries and the doj of
00:31:08.360
course came back they came after him now i hope president trump and his administration looks into that
00:31:12.860
and and writes the wrong but how can you be a doctor i mean doctors and lawyers are among this depending
00:31:18.260
on the lawyer your select few are some of the smartest minds in this country right they're the
00:31:22.400
the people who make the laws are the the people who built this country and determine what's right
00:31:27.360
what's wrong and doctors are the ones who save lives it's troubling for me professor to see a doctor
00:31:32.480
a man who went through years of of medical school a man who knows human anatomy to sit there and think
00:31:40.240
it's okay to sit there and perform a surgery as you said that's irreversible five-year-old six-year-old
00:31:46.040
kids once you go gender mutilation there's no going back i mean that's it and you look at the
00:31:51.860
stories now of kids who are coming out 10 years later five years later saying i ruined my life
00:31:57.180
there's no going back i lost the five years of my life i mutilated myself i removed my breasts to do
00:32:02.740
this and it's over i mean your life is ruined you look at elon musk smartest man in the world he lost
00:32:08.780
his child to the same thing and it's you know it's not uh a a socio issue where the poor people do it
00:32:15.560
the rich people do it elon musk the richest man in the world the smartest man in the world and he lost
00:32:19.300
his child yeah i mean i think it's a social contagion in many ways it's become the cool thing to do
00:32:26.940
there have been other social contagions i think it's very interesting that it is most dominant among
00:32:33.700
teenage girls just like there was a time period when anorexia was most prominent among teenage girls
00:32:39.760
and you know the internet has made things infinitely worse as to that doctor that you're talking about
00:32:46.700
in texas i do believe they uh dismissed the prosecution of him what he was accused of doing
00:32:52.680
is um blowing the whistle essentially on a texas hospital which was violating state policy in his mind
00:33:01.280
and he was prosecuted by the u.s department of justice for allegedly violating the privacy rights of the
00:33:09.000
patients that um he blew the whistle on or you know their medical cases and that has been to my
00:33:16.280
understanding that case has been dismissed and he's been vindicated because what it was it was the
00:33:22.200
medical establishment violating he said state law on not performing these surgeries and these chemical
00:33:29.980
interventions um and so he blew the whistle and the department of justice that under the prior
00:33:36.640
administration tried to find a way to prosecute him that's how crazy it got they should have given
00:33:41.860
him an award he should get the presidential whatever that medal is that you give to civilians
00:33:47.260
you know for trying to protect children yeah did you ever think in your years i mean you're a little bit
00:33:52.980
older than me not much older 33 34 years old or something right um yeah i just turned 30 did you ever
00:34:01.200
think i mean through your years you've seen a lot of stuff going on in this country uh did you ever
00:34:07.140
think we'd be at these crossroads where we're seeing things like we just discussed with whether
00:34:12.160
it be the dei whether it be these gender reaffirming surgeries of children even adults did you ever think
00:34:18.260
i mean your mind must be exploding inside i never really did you know with the benefit of hindsight
00:34:25.280
i could see it developing i can track the history of it i say now it all makes sense but when you're
00:34:32.760
going through it you don't realize it um and it was a capture the institutions we should most rely on
00:34:39.020
uh you know medical establishment uh legal establishment uh not to mention education establishment
00:34:46.660
have all been captured by far left-wing ideology doesn't mean every single person in those organizations
00:34:53.500
is that way but they've been ideologically captured and people say well what can we do
00:34:59.000
an executive order is a good first step but we really have a cultural battle here to regain control
00:35:05.900
of our society and i think the place it needs to start is in education because that's where the damage is
00:35:11.520
going all the crazy ideas we're now talking about developed on the campuses they didn't develop
00:35:18.820
in the hospital they didn't develop in the corporation they developed on the campuses and i forget who it
00:35:25.920
was but somebody had the phrase um i think it was andrew sullivan that you know we are all a campus now or
00:35:32.720
we're all the campus now our whole society has gone into crazy land with these theoretical ideas
00:35:39.780
that developed on campuses and now have captured everything so it's not a great situation uh i i think that
00:35:48.140
i can look back on it and understand what went on and there were points in time where i understood it
00:35:55.100
and both i and other people spoke out about it but it really hopefully this new presidency
00:36:02.780
uh is a chance to reverse the flow of what society has been happening not to get us back to some
00:36:10.380
you know 1950s you know leave it to beaver you know you know family thing but let's get us back to
00:36:17.280
rationality let's get us not back to the center back away from the complete craziness uh if we can
00:36:23.620
if donald trump can accomplish that in four years maybe with eight years and added on for jd vance
00:36:30.180
he will have in many ways saved the country from self-destruction you know it's the crazy thing is it's not
00:36:36.000
just k through 12 anymore and we're going to talk about this on the other side of this break but i just
00:36:40.120
want to get this point in it's not just k through 12 it's these colleges and universities you belong to
00:36:44.960
one of them as a law professor um probably one of the best institutions in this country
00:36:49.700
if you went to cornell if you go to cornell you think it's number one if you went to harvard it's
00:36:53.480
number two or so on and so forth but it's these these colleges and institutions that are brainwashing
00:36:58.480
facilities i have a sister who went to colgate university up in hamilton new york when she went
00:37:02.720
it was a top i think 15 school in the country she left here you know republican whatever you know
00:37:07.960
based on our parents see we were born republicans um and came back this marxist i love her to death but
00:37:13.140
she came back this marxist liberal who sees the world a completely different way um and it's
00:37:18.020
crazy i have another sister went to school down in smu in texas came back the same way she left
00:37:22.560
there was no indoctrination there you know it was a good experience but it's these universities that are
00:37:27.560
doing it and they're they're indoctrinating and they're brainwashing kids and it's hard to believe
00:37:32.160
and we're going to take this up on the other side of this quick break with william jacobson
00:37:35.160
professor at cornell law how such smart kids who are in ivy league schools who are in these top
00:37:41.540
universities can be so easily manipulated by these marxist professors we're coming right back
00:37:46.940
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folks we're back with professor william jacobson he's a professor at cornell law and he's also the
00:38:57.560
founder of the equal protection project he's got a big lawsuit we're going to talk about in just a
00:39:01.160
moment but i want to start with this how is it possible that such smart kids kids who scored
00:39:07.400
through the roof on their sats go to these ivy league schools they leave their home level-headed
00:39:13.240
seeing the country as a great place and then they come home after four years or their first christmas
00:39:19.100
break and they're radicalized marxist how is it possible
00:39:23.220
well there are enormous social pressures on college campuses um to conform and the price of
00:39:33.540
speaking out and not conforming is so high in terms of being socially ostracized or worse
00:39:39.940
that people just go along with it and it is truly astounding it in many cases it may only take a
00:39:47.700
semester uh for somebody to be turned around and uh and and we've got to look at that and we've got
00:39:53.920
to understand why and how that's happening but i believe it's a combination of the orientation and
00:40:01.740
other ideology the colleges are pushing and the severe social pressure to conform and orientation
00:40:09.380
programs you walk in and your first two weeks is all of the things we've been talking about here
00:40:16.780
okay basically we just did the orientation program from the other side that a college student would
00:40:23.340
get and you know and it's not an exaggeration that they are taught to believe that the united
00:40:28.740
states is inherently evil it's inherently racist it can't be changed it's the main problem in the world
00:40:35.200
capitalism is the main problem in the world um you know really it's uh and that's orientation
00:40:42.100
okay uh and then you have the social pressure the internet is one of the worst things that ever
00:40:48.460
happened in this world certainly the social media part of the internet is one of the worst things
00:40:54.080
there's mobbing on the internet there's bad mouthing thankfully you know when i grew up and went to
00:41:00.520
college i'm really thrilled there was no internet now whatever the social pressure
00:41:05.140
were you dealt with them in the cafeteria at high school you didn't deal with them all night long
00:41:13.060
all morning long all day long on the internet so it's really i think we need to look at this we need
00:41:19.900
to look at the rising rates of depression among students particularly bad among females and we need to
00:41:26.620
look at the drop out effect for young men they are essentially dropping out of society in many ways
00:41:34.340
and choosing not to go to these colleges i can't blame them because on day one of orientation they're
00:41:41.040
accused of being you know potential rapists you know and uh so it's a bad situation uh people are
00:41:49.080
voting with their feet young men are voting with their feet uh and i can't blame a lot of them you know
00:41:55.080
and so yeah it's a but so many of the problems in our country stem from higher education all this stuff
00:42:02.720
that's going on in elementary school didn't start in elementary school it started on the college
00:42:08.660
campuses with the students who went into teaching with the students who went into the foundations that
00:42:15.380
provide money went into this with the students who went into the uh publishing houses that published
00:42:21.140
the books it didn't start in k through 12 it started in college but it's now worked its way down
00:42:27.580
into k through 12 we have a major crisis in this country in higher education and we we nobody seems
00:42:33.700
willing to address it at least trump is trying to address it he's what two weeks and not even two
00:42:39.020
weeks you know it's got four more years i hope he keeps up the pace uh not all of these things will
00:42:45.000
land not all of these things will be successful but some of them will be and and i'm all in favor of
00:42:50.560
that i think you're absolutely right and there's a saying the fish rots from the from the head down
00:42:54.620
and that's exactly what we're seeing now with you saying starting with the uh with the colleges now
00:42:59.080
you mentioned uh the the whole capitalism thing that was sort of the uh woke ideology before this
00:43:05.300
whole uh everyone's racist you probably remember the whole occupy wall street thing where a bunch of
00:43:10.300
these idiot kids sat on wall street occupying it to get wanting to get rid of banks not realizing that
00:43:17.000
everything they've bought every piece of clothing they're wearing every everything their parents done for
00:43:20.980
them was bought through a bank that was sort of the first thing and i took special interest in that
00:43:25.440
because my father was in banking on wall street and my sisters are in wall street banking and i'm sitting
00:43:30.600
there and i'm young at the time and i'm thinking you know i'm 15 60 how dumb are these people that they
00:43:35.960
want to get rid of banks what do you do with your money that was that was one thing but you're right
00:43:39.940
technology and social media these things are are the devil they really are um you know kids will never
00:43:46.420
see the days of going and knocking on your friend's door to tell them to come out to play
00:43:50.760
staying out on the street playing riding bikes until your mom yelled at you to come home those days are
00:43:55.460
long gone and uh it's sad i think my generation was probably one of the last ones who got to witness
00:44:00.800
that where you weren't sitting home playing video games all day if you weren't sitting on tiktok
00:44:04.720
um you mentioned uh depression rates among women you know everyone follows each other on instagram
00:44:10.480
on tiktok you see your friends are out you're not invited send you in depression you look at the
00:44:16.100
uprising school shootings i think that probably has social media probably has a massive effect
00:44:21.280
on what goes through these kids minds they see that they're not included in plans uh one of the kids
00:44:26.200
gets beat up on the playground someone's got a video of it next thing you know it's all online and
00:44:30.300
everyone's making fun of you the next day uh it really social media and these cell phones have been
00:44:34.480
the demise of i think society for the last 10 years coming it's really sad the last thing i want to
00:44:40.380
hit on is the other thing is birth rates you look at the birth rate decline in this country
00:44:44.000
people don't want to have kids anymore uh young women don't want to get impregnated young men don't
00:44:49.740
want to impregnate women birth rates are through the floor and we're literally a dying species we're
00:44:55.760
a dying society uh what do you what's your thoughts on that yeah i i think that's a
00:45:01.300
essentially like a trailing indicator if that's the right word that the fact that people don't want
00:45:08.680
to raise families they don't want to get married they don't want to invest in a future generation
00:45:14.820
is a reflection of all the other things that have gone wrong in our culture it's not unique to the
00:45:20.340
united states there are other developed nations where it's worse i mean korea is collapsing birth
00:45:27.320
rate wise much worse than we are south korea uh same throughout western europe um very interestingly
00:45:33.780
the only economically developed country in the world um where the birth rate far exceeds the
00:45:45.400
replacement rate is israel and uh israel has i look actually looked at this the other day for a
00:45:52.560
different reason uh israel i think has a 3.3 um child per woman um rate and it's roughly equal between
00:46:03.040
you know arabs and jews so it's not one or the other they're roughly equal rates the arab rate
00:46:09.040
has come down dramatically with economic development um to now we're arabs and jews are basically the
00:46:14.760
same but it's over three even for secular jews it's 2.2 which is basically the replacement rate
00:46:21.360
right for religious jews it's messiah but there's something about that society despite all their
00:46:27.000
problems despite constantly being at war um despite terrorism all these things they're also ranked the
00:46:34.660
fourth happiest country in the world and i think the happiness that they have is reflected in the you
00:46:40.940
know the birth rate that's not true everywhere sometimes it's a reflection of poverty lack of access
00:46:46.260
to contraception things like that but in the developed world the fourth happiest country also happens to have
00:46:52.560
the highest birth rate and so i think the things you're pointing about the collapse of our birth
00:46:57.180
rate in the united states is a reflection of i believe in part the growing unhappiness in this
00:47:03.540
country yeah and you know what and that's israel where you're mandated as a man to go into the
00:47:08.000
military that's a whole different thing we can't draft people into the military here but i constantly
00:47:12.980
ask myself i have no kids i'm not married why would i want to do that to myself as for the kids aspect
00:47:18.220
why do i want to bring a kid into the world where i'm considered a domestic terrorist if i go against
00:47:23.300
what they're being taught in school why do i want to bring into a kid into the world where it's not
00:47:27.640
even affordable to live in new york if you're not making 150 000 or more why do i want to bring a
00:47:33.080
kid into the world who's going to be indoctrinated once he goes to or he or she goes to college
00:47:36.820
to a belief why do i want to bring a kid into the world that's going to grow up one day to hate me
00:47:41.100
because i teach them right from wrong um you know it's a very very very big problem we could spend hours
00:47:47.360
talking about it uh before we get to your lawsuit i want to talk about president trump looking to
00:47:52.340
cancel the visas of the pro-palestine protesters we'd spoken to you a lot you're on show a bunch
00:47:57.320
uh back when we had the uh palestinian protests at nyu and uh at harvard and cornell um your thoughts
00:48:04.820
as this is one of president trump's first acts in the first as we say 11 days in office to go after
00:48:10.760
these terrorist sympathizers who were terrorizing kids were terrorizing a university shutting down
00:48:16.760
universities like they own the place well i think you had to look at what the terms of their visas
00:48:21.760
are let's remember these are people who are here on permission and uh the terms of their as i understand
00:48:28.260
the argument is that this conduct by them you know flying the hezbollah flag flying the hamas flag
00:48:35.140
which may be lawful for an american to do it may be lawful for them to do it they don't go to jail
00:48:41.120
for it but it might violate the terms of their visa that brought them here allowed them to come
00:48:45.420
here and i think the terms of visas is legitimate and should be enforced and so uh i i think that
00:48:51.620
might be a positive thing um i think if you look at a lot of these protests there seem to be a very
00:48:56.740
disproportionate number of foreigners who are here on visas taunting people on the streets and engaging
00:49:02.540
in aggressive conduct that may not be criminal in the united states but may violate the terms of their visa
00:49:09.460
and i think we should toughen up those visas you don't have a right to come to this country
00:49:13.840
and if you're going to come here you have to abide by the terms that we allowed you in and i don't
00:49:19.380
know if that conduct violates the visas or not the president seems to think it does uh that will be
00:49:25.360
litigated of course everything's litigated but you know i'm not very sympathetic to the people who come
00:49:31.460
here on a visa and the visa says you can't engage in support of terrorist groups or whatever and then
00:49:38.300
comes here and you know taunts students not just jewish but taunts american students with a hamas flag
00:49:45.380
or with an isis flag you're not deserving to be in this country if that's what you're doing
00:49:51.800
now if you just have an opinion we don't like that's a different thing but i think take take it as it comes and
00:49:58.260
as of now my understanding is the threat of deporting people is not because you don't like their opinion
00:50:05.060
but because they're engaging in conduct which violates the terms of their visas and this you
00:50:10.400
didn't even mention the guys and women who are burning american flags nobody's telling you you
00:50:14.740
have to be in this country that's the great thing about it if you're an american citizen you can leave
00:50:18.760
freely if you're not an american citizen you're free to go back where you came from if you hate this
00:50:22.920
country and you hate the people that are here and the fabrics that we stand for uh that it doesn't
00:50:27.820
get much simpler than that uh we all dealt with joe biden for four years uh gruelingly with all the bad
00:50:34.520
things he did in this country and we took it none of us said burgh leaving the country if he wins
00:50:38.600
i think it's probably because they're a little bit more level-headed uh than some of these marches
00:50:42.540
but it's it's truly sickening um that this is what it's come to real quick before we get to your lawsuit
00:50:47.200
i keep saying we're getting to it but i want to ask you about uh his president trump's uh deportations
00:50:52.080
and get a legal scholar's mind on it um i had said and i believed before he took office that
00:50:58.340
somewhere somehow it's going to get caught up in the courts someone's going to come and block it
00:51:03.560
um there's nothing in the constitution about birthright citizenship what's your take on on
00:51:09.320
the deportations are we going to be allowed to continue to do them uh and uh president trump
00:51:15.760
wanted to get rid of birthright citizenship what what do you think the implications are for that
00:51:19.200
yeah well on the deportations i think that um it would not shock me if some district court judges
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put a halt to things um you know uh but there are two to three million people in this country
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illegally who have gone through the immigration judicial system they have been ordered to leave
00:51:41.300
their asylum claims were denied and they're still here they have no basis for interfering with that
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a federal judge um same with people who are here illegally and commit crimes uh you know it would
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be nice if congress would do its job but there are already enough laws on the books to deport them and
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the uh you know uh law that i think it was signed today or yesterday about the young woman in georgia who
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was killed by lakin riley um uh will uh that's legislation which should allow a lot of these people
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remember the outrageous thing about democrats voting against that is we're talking about people who are
00:52:21.400
here illegally and who committed crimes while violent crimes while here and they want them to stay yeah
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okay you know uh sorry so i think there will be a deportation there will be a lot of what's called
00:52:34.960
self-deportation once the job opportunities dry up once they're this is no longer their their free
00:52:42.180
meal ticket um i think you'll find a lot of people leaving i would not be surprised it's not going to
00:52:47.460
address everything on the issue of birthright citizenship a lot of people are treating that
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as a frivolous issue oh you know the supreme court's already recognized birthright citizenship
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not really it's not as clear as people think the decision that people keep referring to had to to do
00:53:04.220
with the children born to permanent resident aliens here people who had permission to stay permanently
00:53:11.620
in the country not somebody who just landed on a plane from you know asia on birthright uh tourism
00:53:19.460
not somebody who crossed the border illegally and gave birth there's never to my knowledge been a
00:53:24.860
supreme court ruling on whether somebody the child of somebody in the country illegally um is entitled to
00:53:32.440
birthright citizenship and there is significant um evidence that the framers or the 14th amendment
00:53:40.180
did not intend that when they framed the issue of that's now called birthright citizenship so i don't
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think it's a frivolous issue i can't predict how the court will come down but it is not a frivolous
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issue like some like all of the media is treating it all of the legacy media is treating it like this is
00:53:58.900
crazy this is you know frivolous um a judge made a comment apparently in one of the cases like i can't
00:54:06.440
believe any lawyer would come in here and argue well there's a lot of scholarly articles that argue
00:54:11.640
that one our notion of birthright citizenship is not supported by the constitution and the framers
00:54:18.460
of the 14th amendment and also that the case law really isn't as strong for it as people are claiming
00:54:24.740
right i think that makes perfect sense well i guess we'll just have to wait and see uh how it plays out
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but i wanted to get your take on that because like i said i think you're a brilliant
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legal scholar it's so funny to me how uh two people so far right so far left can be so far uh
00:54:40.920
disconnected on the same issue you know there are some brilliant legal minds on the left not many but
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uh it's just so funny to me i want to turn to a lawsuit that you had filed last august that's
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finally now picking up some traction against the ithaca school district and their discrimination
00:54:57.540
against white students tell us a little bit about what's going on with the case and uh how it's
00:55:02.840
going to progress so um i teach at cornell which is in ithaca okay and it came to my attention i don't
00:55:09.640
even remember how somebody must have tipped me off or something that they had been running a program
00:55:14.380
called students of color united um uh annual gathering uh and uh that white students were excluded
00:55:22.900
from it and i looked into it and i researched it and sure enough this was a horrible program running
00:55:29.440
over four years in the ithaca city school district to which white students were barred to the extent i
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mean i'm not even talking about nuance here they had a frequently asked question on the official website
00:55:42.860
explaining why aren't white students invited okay the registration form required students registering for
00:55:52.260
this event to affirm that they understand this is only for students of color okay um the uh
00:56:00.760
administrative emails that we gathered through various processes mostly uh freedom of information
00:56:06.820
law process in new york um it was very clear every level administrator um and what's outrageous about it
00:56:15.020
is that people did complain okay after the first year of this event in 2021 i think it was people
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complained formally it came up at the board of education and the board of education ignored the complaints
00:56:29.340
people in the community and this is a liberal community um are saying this doesn't seem right to me
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okay why are we segregating students by race these students who were the non-white students were
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released from class on the days of this event and the white students had to stand behind you know
00:56:49.280
uh in class or stay behind in class and so really grotesque stuff and so we sent a demand letter to the
00:56:55.780
district and went public with it and got it written up a lot of publicity and the district said oh we're not
00:57:01.500
really doing that that was just a miscommunication and i didn't like that okay because it wasn't a
00:57:08.820
miscommunication we have four years of your records okay and so we then followed up in august so that
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would have been late may early june of last year after they've been doing it for four years and we
00:57:21.700
filed a complaint a civil rights complaint with the office for civil rights of the u.s department of
00:57:27.320
education and in it we asked the department of education to open an investigation and take action
00:57:33.180
against the district for this grotesque four-year discriminatory program that they had and just now
00:57:40.040
with this incoming trump administration they opened a formal investigation and that's the first big step
00:57:47.140
in any civil rights complaint with the department is when they make the decision to open the investigation
00:57:53.400
that doesn't mean they found the district guilty but it means they think there's enough there to open
00:57:59.140
it so that that's what we have they've now moved into higher gear let's put it that way and we think the
00:58:05.660
district needs to be held accountable because dozens of teachers were involved in this dozens of
00:58:12.000
administrators up to the highest level the board of education was involved in this and they did and they
00:58:20.240
were non-apologetic they've never apologized for it they've denied and obfuscated what they did they wrote it off
00:58:27.120
in a press release a public statement this was a miscommunication we apologize for any misunderstanding
00:58:33.220
from our communications we will try to be better in the future no this was outright discrimination on
00:58:40.500
the basis of race against white students who could not attend this event and we want them to be held
00:58:46.400
accountable and i hope the department of education does we're calling for many things where i think they
00:58:52.080
need a fine i think they need to not just to um have perhaps a an administrative monitor a so-called
00:58:58.940
special master appointed this is a district that's in very deep denial about what they did they still
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haven't apologized for it i mean that tells you right there and that's what we want and hopefully
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under this new administration uh you know i'm not that critical of the department of education
00:59:16.380
office for civil rights they've opened other investigations for us but i really hope the new
00:59:22.560
administration takes it to a new level and a new level of enforcement and these schools need to
00:59:27.820
understand we filed over 60 cases so far these schools need to understand the civil rights laws
00:59:33.960
protect everybody they don't only protect one race and racism against whites against asians is not okay
00:59:42.260
just like racism against blacks and hispanics is not okay there's got to be equal enforcement of the
00:59:47.940
laws and that's what our equal protection project equalprotect.org is all about which is holding
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schools accountable to not just the civil rights laws not just the 14th amendment but their own rules and
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regulations all of these districts and all of these universities the 60 we filed against all have in their
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internal rules that they will not discriminate on the basis of race or national origin and then they
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go out and they do it anyway so i i think ithaca school district needs to be made an example of
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i'll go one further i'm all for getting rid of the department of education uh all together uh it's far too
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much corruption there there's far too many bureaucrats who skate by uh you probably know a little something
01:00:29.240
about tenure they've probably got something over there that you know makes them uh non-fireable and they
01:00:34.760
just sit there their whole lives they get a pension and uh they mean to do harm we need more attorneys
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like you in this country and i know i understand fully why you're one of lou's favorite attorneys to
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have on the show brilliant mind folks if you want to support professor jacobson and his project
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it's equal protection project you go to equalprotect.org you can donate you can read all about all the work
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that they're doing uh for this great country and and stopping this whole nonsense this critical race
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era that we're in that hopefully is ending soon professor william jacobson i appreciate you
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