DEM IMPEACHMENT A COVER-UP
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Director Christopher Wray testifies before the House Judiciary Committee. Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz questions how many illegal FISA searches have occurred under his leadership, and how much he knew about them. Wray says he doesn t have the numbers.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is The Great America Show. Good to have you with
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us. And the Department of Justice, the FBI, the deep state, all on display at the House
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Judiciary Committee hearing. What are their captains yesterday on Capitol Hill? No more
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forthcoming than usual, but clearly discomfited by the glare of lights, cameras and angry
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Republicans. FBI Director Christopher Wray testifying on Capitol Hill, clearly uncomfortable,
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his cheeks and mouth twitching incessantly throughout tough questioning. His customary
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smirk on display only a handful of times, no more. And the House Judiciary Committee Republicans
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didn't disappoint. They sharply questioned his integrity and that of the corrupt agency that
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he leads. Congressman Matt Gaetz made no pretense of cordiality. Gaetz asked Ray how many illegal
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FISA searches had been conducted under his command, and in particular, how many illegal FISA searches
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conducted in connection to January 6th. Here's the FBI Director's response and how little he
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professed to know. Let's go from the uncurious to the downright nosy. How many illegal FISA queries
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have occurred under your leadership of the FBI? Well, there are reports that have come out with
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different numbers about compliance incidents. More than a million illegal ones? Because that's
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what the Inspector General said. The Inspector General said that in the 3.4 million of these queries,
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more than a million were in error. Do you have any basis to disagree with that assessment by
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the Inspector General? I'm not sure, actually, that's a correct characterization of the Inspector
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General's findings on that. Oh, well, the internet will remind you of that in moments, but let's now
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go to what the court said. The court said it was over 200,000 that have occurred on your watch.
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Do you have any basis to disagree with that assessment? Again, I don't have the numbers I sit here
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right now. Seems like a number you should know. How many times the FBI is breaking the law under
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your watch, especially if it's like over a million to not know that number. And I'm worried about your
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veracity on the subject as well. Play the video. Letters for investigation of the Capitol. I don't
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believe FISA is remotely implicated in our investigation. So there, Senator Lee's asking you
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whether or not FISA was in any way involved in your January 6th investigation, and you say no.
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Well, was that truthful? I said that I did not believe it was. Okay, so now let's pull up what
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the court said, which was something a little different than what you said. So here, no, that's
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not the right one. Yeah, here we go. Right there, it says the government has reported additional
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significant violations of the querying standard, including several relating to the January 6,
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2021 breach of the Capitol. So I guess the question, Director A, is did you not know when you were
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answering these questions that the FBI was engaging in these illegal searches, or did you
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perjure yourself to Senator Lee? I certainly didn't perjure myself. At the time that I testified in
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front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I didn't have that piece of information. I will add...
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Well, that was a court order. You didn't have that piece of information because the court hadn't yet
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rendered a judgment. Did you not know when you gave the untruthful answer before Senator Lee that
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this was going on? It was a truthful answer. I did not believe FISA had been involved in the
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January 6. But it was. So you didn't... The answer is the FBI has broken so bad that people can go
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and engage in queries that when you come before the Congress to answer questions, you're like
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blissfully ignorant. You're blissfully ignorant as to the unlawful queries. You're blissfully ignorant
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as to the Biden shakedown regime. And it just seems like it gets into a kind of a creepy place as well.
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Go to our next image on what the court said. Just so the American people realize, the court has
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smacked you down, alleging or ruling FBI personnel apparently conducted queries for improper personal
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reasons. People were looking themselves up. They were looking their ex-lovers up. Who has been held
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accountable or fired as a consequence of the FBI using the FISA process as their like creepy personal
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snoop machine? There have been instances in which individuals have had disciplinary action and they
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were no longer with... I can't get into it here, but we can follow back up with you. But don't you see
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that that's kind of the thing, Director A, that you preside over the FBI that has the lowest level of
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trust in the FBI's history? People trusted the FBI more when J. Edgar Hoover was running the place than
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when you are. And the reason is because you don't give straight answers. You give answers that later a
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court deems aren't true. And then at the end of the day, you won't criticize an obvious shakedown when
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it's directly in front of us. And it appears as though you're whitewashing the conduct of corrupt
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people. Respectfully, Congressman, in your home state of Florida, the number of people applying to come
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work for us and devote their lives working for us is over up over 100 percent. We're deeply proud of
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them and they deserve better than you. Congressman Gates, impatient and in no mood, obviously, for Ray's
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dodging and dissembling. Congressman Wesley Hunt laid out for Director Ray how the two-tiered system of
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justice and the difference in the Department of Justice treatment if your last name is Trump and what it means
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to be a Biden. If you are a Trump, you'll be prosecuted. If you are a Biden, you'll be protected.
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And the American people that I represent are sick and tired of this double standard.
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It seems like every single hearing that we have in this room, we talk about the two-tiered justice
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system of Biden's DOJ and the FBI. And as we were talking earlier, here we are again.
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President Trump endured an unprecedented raid at his home in Mar-a-Lago.
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President Biden's home, however, was respectfully browsed.
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President Trump is facing up to 400 years in federal prison for allegedly being in possession
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of classified documents he obtained as the commander-in-chief of these United States of
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America. And meanwhile, President Biden is facing no charges for the classified documents he had held
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at his time as a senator and a vice president, not the president of these United States of America.
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And last I checked, he had no legal authority to declassify those documents.
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Assuming President Trump was in possession of said classified documents, would those documents
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be more secure, surrounded by Secret Service at Mar-a-Lago, or in a box, in a garage, behind your Corvette?
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Question for you, sir. What can you tell us about the status of the FBI's investigation
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of President Biden's classified documents found next to his Corvette in Delaware and those found
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at the Penn-Biden Center? Do we have an update on that, sir?
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What I can tell you is that there is an ongoing special counsel investigation led by Mr. Robert
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Herr, and we have FBI agents affiliated with it, working on it, working very actively and aggressively
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with him on that case. I obviously disagree with your description of the two standards.
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In my view, we, at least under my watch, we have one standard, and that is we're going
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to pursue the facts wherever they lead, no matter who likes it. And I add that last part,
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because especially in sensitive investigations, almost by definition, somebody's not going
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So I understand, and that's actually why I live with the sentiment of the American people.
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I understand that's your sentiment. I do want to finish this. So I want everybody
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to talk about this dichotomy that we have seen. I get your point, sir, but that's just
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not what we see as the public, as we the people. We see one case being fast-tracked and one case
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being slow-walked. We see one president's home being raided, the other president's home being
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kindly searched. You have one government agency, the Secret Service, protecting the former president
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and his home, and another government agency, the FBI, raiding the same home.
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Now, to me, sir, that's tragically ironic. And we expect more from a functional constitutional
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republic, and these things shouldn't be happening. Now, it's my opinion that Joe Biden is the most
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unpopular president we have seen in a century, and that's why he knows the only way to stop
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President Trump from beating him in November is by putting him in jail. You talked about
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this, Mr. Fry. In the 247 years of this existence of this great nation, only one president has
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ever been indicted by the DOJ and is home raided by the FBI. Now, some have said that President
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Trump's indictment means that no one is above the law. Okay. All right. I would love to see
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that. But what about Hillary Clinton? And what about Joe Biden? And what about Hunter
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Biden, who is America's favorite son? Let me tell you something. I got a four-year-old
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daughter and a two-year-old daughter at my house. Hunter Biden to me is like glitter. He
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is on everything, and you cannot get rid of him. And yet nothing is going to be done about
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this. We're sick of it. James Comey decided not to prosecute Hillary Clinton despite overwhelming
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evidence that she committed crimes. And as I recall, it was the position of the FBI to
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not prosecute because they didn't want to interfere with the presidential election. What do you call
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this? The Iowa caucuses are in six months. Six months. I think the American public would
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expect to see this from Cuba and from Venezuela and from Russia and from China, but not here.
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The people expect us to have blind justice. They expect equal justice under the law. And it's not
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the job of the DOJ or the FBI to prosecute Joe Biden's top political opponent who was leading in
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every single primary poll. And the Iowa caucuses are in six months. Let the people decide. It's our job
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to uphold the Constitution. Under Ray, the weaponization of the Justice Department and FBI has reached depths of
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corruption and depravity never witnessed in our nation's history. Just yesterday, the DOJ indicted
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a man by the name of Gail Luft. He's accused of not registering as a foreign agent for his work
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on a Chinese energy company for which Hunter Biden also worked and who never registered as an agent for
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foreign countries. The difference is Gail Luft is a whistleblower against the Biden crime family.
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Joining us now, John Solomon, editor in chief of Just the News. John, great to have you back with
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us here on The Great America Show. And let's start with all of these whistleblowers on Capitol Hill.
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There are so many of them, so many charges. We all need a program to keep track of them.
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Yeah, it is. And it's the the opposition knows that they can play in this area of confusing people,
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right? Tax law is confusing. So they try to switch terms. They try to do things that they're trying to
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suggest that the whistleblowers aren't telling the truth when, in fact, all of the evidence points
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that. Let me just get to a couple of really good examples. Early on, Abby Lowell, the lawyer for
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Hunter Biden, by the way, a very good lawyer, former criminal division chief of the Justice Department.
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He suggested, though he didn't directly allege it, but he suggested that maybe Gary Shapley,
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the IRS whistleblower, leaked a story to The Washington Post in October. And he leaves it there.
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And of course, everybody covers it. By the way, The Washington Post covers that allegation,
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even though they know who their source is. And they stay silent about it. But Gary Shapley goes
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and puts a statement to Congress saying, I wasn't the source and I free The Washington Post. If they
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feel like they have any source relationship with me, I free them to confirm I'm not the source from
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this alleged grand jury leak that that Abby Lowell is alleging. And of course, the media that's
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confusing. It confuses everybody what's going on here. And of course, the media doesn't play up
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Gary Shapley's response the way they play up the allegation from the Democrat or from the lawyer
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representing the Democratic family, Hunter Biden and his father. So these things are going on and
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they're all designed to sully up the whistleblower's reputation without really sully. They're not
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actually landing blows. They're actually not putting facts in there. They're using supposition and
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innuendo and suggestions. And so what you've seen the lawyers for Gary Shapley and the other
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IRS whistleblower do is be very much on offense, which is we're not going to take any punches
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without counteracting. And so day in and day out, they're doing this and they're now forcing
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people like David Weiss, the U.S. attorney in Delaware, the lead of the Hunter Biden prosecution
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team to start answering questions and to get pinned down on answers. And this happened this week. There
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are two things that happened this week. First, after Gary Shapley made his allegations and his
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allegations are very simple. David Weiss and his staff signed off on a very specific indictment
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that took Hunter Biden all the way back to felonies dating to 2014 when he got the Burisma money in
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Ukraine. And then Weiss went to the U.S. attorneys in California, in District of Columbia, asked them to
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bring these cases. They turned them down. And then he says, Weiss told the investigating team he sought
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a special counsel designation and got turned down. That is what he said. Now, Weiss has been putting
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little pieces. I can't talk much about this, but it is true that I was geographically limited to what
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I could bring. In other words, he was telling the truth. The whistleblowers were telling the truth
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when he said he himself couldn't bring the charges without first going to the Los Angeles and District
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of Columbia, U.S. attorney. So he's affirmed the whistleblower, even though the perception is he's
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challenging the whistleblower. He then went on to say that if I couldn't get those places for
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prosecutors to do it, I could potentially seek authority as a special prosecutor, meaning he has
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authority to bring a case in a district, even if the local U.S. attorney won't do that. So he again
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affirms the whistleblower. Now, he flatly says, I didn't seek special counsel status. Okay, so that's
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the difference between him and Gary Shapley, but it's a difference without meaning. Whether
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you're a special prosecutor or a special counsel, what you're really seeking is authority to bring
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the charges in a place where the prosecutor who resides in that place isn't willing to bring them.
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So again, it's affirming to the whistleblower story. You'd have a hard time telling that by
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watching the mainstream medium. But I think the big question here is who's telling the truth,
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right? That's what everybody wants to know. I want to point people to a document because
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David Weiss has been trying to almost undercut the whistleblowers without doing it, just like
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Hunter Biden's lawyer, Abby Lowell, is trying to undercut them without actually directly challenging
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them. There is a very important document that most people have missed. It has existed since the
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moment the House Ways and Means Committee first released the testimony of Gary Shapley and his
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colleague, the second IRS agent. It is a conclusions and recommendations memo. It is the memo that the
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agents on the case wrote after meeting with the prosecutors, and it delineates what the prosecutors
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agree to. And it is very important to understand what this memo says. I'm just going to read this
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document. It's a couple pages. It was included in the release of documents from Congress.
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A draft of this report has been given to the DOJ tax senior attorney, Mark Daly, as well as
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the assistant United States attorney, Leslie Wolf. Leslie Wolf is the right-hand woman on this case
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to David Weiss. AUSA Wolf, in other words, David Weiss's deputy, has reviewed the appendices and the
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charges cited in this report and agrees with the prosecution recommendation of the above cited
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charges against Hunter Biden. This is a contemporaneous document that shows that David Weiss's staff
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signed off on bringing a much more sweeping case going all the way back to 2014, including felonies,
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including proving that Hunter Biden did not pay his taxes in 2014 on all that Ukraine money or at
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least $400,000 of the money he got from Burisma in Ukraine. This is a very difficult document for
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David Weiss because David Weiss is saying, listen, I could bring any charge I want. Okay, well, now we
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know you signed off on a bigger charge and then you didn't bring it. So the person who has a lot of
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explaining to do isn't the whistleblowers. It's David Weiss. David Weiss has a contemporaneous document
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saying he signed off, his office signed off on prosecuting Hunter Biden all the way back to 2014
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on a felony. And then he later only brings misdemeanors in there to much more present
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time, 2017 forward. David Weiss, if you signed off at it and you had the authority, the question
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Congress is going to ask is, why didn't you bring those charges? That's the current state of the case
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as we are right now. That's terrific, John. And that the data that is, what date is that memo,
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the recommendations, conclusions and recommendations? The summer of 2022. Isn't
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that remarkable? Just a year ago. So it means even a year ago, David Weiss and his team were still on
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the idea that Hunter Biden should be prosecuted on a long tax evasion case going back to 2014,
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including a felony and including the allegation that he didn't pay money on Burisma. Why is that
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important? We impeach President Trump, the Congress, a Democratic Congress impeach President Trump
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for asking for an investigation into the Burisma matters. We were told in 2019 there was nothing
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there. There was no reason to investigate. It turns out while that was going on, the U.S. attorney and
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Weiss had evidence and was moving towards a recommendation that Hunter Biden be prosecuted for
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not paying taxes on his Ukraine money. So this really is important stuff to history. It's important
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to understand how much the administrative state and the Justice Department knew about the Biden's
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wrongdoing and didn't tell the American people in 19 during impeachment, 20 during the election,
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21 after Joe Biden took over. And in 2022, when the agents and prosecutors were ready to hit Hunter
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Biden with a very serious tax charge, and then they backed off. And the question is, why did they back off?
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We can infer from what we know of why they did. What is interesting to me is what happens next. And the
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judge who has to decide about the sweetheart deal, you know, it's not really a slap on the wrist that
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Hunter Biden received from Weiss and the Justice Department. It's really just a pat on the head.
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That federal judge with this, as you were reading, all I could see was all of the papers exploding in
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front of this judge saying this can't be. I mean, it's outrageous on its face.
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Yeah, listen, here's the problem that those who want a more who want the judge to intervene at
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present, the judge can only consider what's in the court record. And none of this is in the court
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record right now. It's in the court of public opinion, but it's not part of the record upon
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which a judge can make a decision. So the real question is, this is a question I've been pressing
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lawmakers for. Congress is a potential victim of the Hunter Biden tax evasion screen. What do I mean by
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that? They are, by the constitutional power granted to them, the purse holders of the United
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States taxpayer. And it is Hunter Biden's failure to pay tax bases that gypped Congress of the ability
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to spend certain money during the years that it's alleged that Hunter Biden didn't pay his taxes.
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If Congress were to make a victim statement or to intrude and put some sort of motion in saying,
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judge, we have learned things that are relevant to this case. We are a victim. We have standing
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because we're Congress and we're in charge of the tax dollars that get spent. Then there would be
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something before the judge that potentially could help them to do that. Now, some of the people I've
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interviewed, like Jim Jordan said, we don't want to do that. We don't want to intervene in the judicial
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branch. I don't know why. I mean, the judicial branch intervenes on congressional matters all the
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time. They are separate bodies of investigation or bodies of government, separate and independent of
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each other. But there hasn't been the appetite for someone to get these facts before the judge,
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before she accepts the plea deal. There's only about a week or 10 days to do that.
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The court hearing is, I believe, July 26. So it's coming up quickly. But the judge may not be able
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to make it. She may not be able to pull any of this information in from the public realm. She must make
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it only from the court record reform. And right now, the prosecutors have not put any of this into the
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court record. But she can make a judgment based on what is on the record. This knowledge of what is
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happening here. At some point, we've got to decide in this country if we're going to have a justice
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system or not, and do the right thing, not just the things by the book. I mean, this becomes all
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semantics and connotations and shadows. What is supposed to be law and what is supposed to be
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justice? It would be a shame if Hunter Biden got away with this on that basis, in my opinion.
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We're talking with John Solomon. He's editor-in-chief of Just the News.
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We're back with John Solomon, editor-in-chief of Just the News. John, a fascinating point of law that
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you make about the judge having to approve the sweetheart deal, the pat on the head for Hunter
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Biden. At the same time, we have an investigation by the Secret Service and presumably the FBI since
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the cocaine was found in the White House. Not a simple denial from any part of the Biden
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administration, not from the Biden White House, not his press secretary. No one has said, no,
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the first family is not involved. Your thoughts?
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Well, no one has been able to understand the White House's position on this. There has been
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obfuscation, there's been denials, there's been denials that have been then contradicted. Fox News
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did a good job. They had a press pull report that shows that after Corrine John-Pera said the Biden
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family wasn't at the White House on Friday, in fact, they were. A press pull report showed they were
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still there. I think it's highly improbable based on the reporting I've done for people who have
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worked in the White House for a long time. And by the way, currently involved in this investigation
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that Hunter Biden would have entered that entrance in the White House. That's an entrance usually brought
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in by guests who aren't family members. The family typically goes through a different entrance
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than outside visitors. So the people coming into that entrance typically tend to be
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other governor officials or people attending a meeting at the White House with the president.
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That still makes it incredibly serious and embarrassing to the White House that someone
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the president was likely meeting with or his senior staff was meeting with had cocaine on them and
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brought it into the White House and didn't think anything of it. But I do think that those are,
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I think a lot of people say, well, could this be Hunter Biden's cocaine? Of course, a lot of people
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want to know that because he's admitted he's a drug addict. He's got some criminal issues involving a gun
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in taxes right now. But the people who know the White House and also know what's going on in this
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investigation say, this is not the entrance that Hunter Biden would have come in, got swept for,
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or left his cocaine or his phone in a box. And so I think we got to take that into account as we
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evaluate this. But why can't the White House on very simple things like this be able to give us
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straight answers? Well, they have never given us straight answers. They didn't give us the truth
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about the Hunter Biden laptop this team did when they were running for Congress. They didn't give us the
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truth about the Afghan withdrawal. It took two years to get the truth on that. They haven't given us
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the truth on so many other major stories. The record of this White House press secretary's team is
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they are not really the advocates of truth for the American public like every other press secretary
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before them. They are the obfuscators and oftentimes the disinformation artists in providing the American
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public about information. It's very important to our policy and to our security. Listen, the cocaine thing is
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more than just a federal felony of someone bringing drugs into a federal property. Imagine if that
00:24:31.920
cocaine was anthrax or ricin or something more dangerous. There's been a security failure that
00:24:37.400
needs to be tightened up by the Secret Service and those who provide security in the White House.
00:24:41.660
And a lot of people don't concentrate on this. This isn't just a whodunit about a drug case.
00:24:46.660
This is a really a security failure that occurred in the White House, much like the security failures we
00:24:51.540
now are learning about in the Capitol that predated and led to January 6th.
00:24:56.720
Absolutely. But it's also a security failure in a in a White House that is as corrupt as it is the
00:25:05.500
most corrupt White House we have ever seen in our country's history. That is that doesn't have to be
00:25:10.960
adjudicated. That's not a matter of law. We are looking at evidence right now that has been brought up by
00:25:17.540
the Congress of the United States and other sources. We know that this president cheated,
00:25:23.680
lied and and stole the 2020 election. There is no doubt about it. One does not have to go beyond
00:25:31.700
the evidence, whether it's by Bill Barr, whether it is the testimony, FBI agents, the Twitter files.
00:25:40.500
We know what happened. And I don't see why anyone should be surprised, frankly, that cocaine is going
00:25:46.940
through the the hallways of the White House, given the the moral standing of this president and this
00:25:53.720
presidency. Listen, one of the greatest election interventions, when history looks back at 2020
00:25:58.700
and it goes through all the smoke and mirrors and the debates in the January 6th and all these things,
00:26:02.940
there's going to be one thing that's going to stand out. The man who won that election in 2020
00:26:07.840
concocted a scheme with 51 intelligence agents to write a letter. It was his campaign working with
00:26:14.240
Mike Morrell to get a letter to falsely mislead the American people into thinking that the Hunter
00:26:19.800
Biden laptop was Russian disinformation and shouldn't be considered as part of the job interview
00:26:24.100
for Joe Biden becoming president, when in fact, the FBI months before that had already determined that
00:26:30.700
it was Hunter Biden's laptop, both by getting the Mac ID, the computer address and confirming that was the
00:26:36.000
one registered under Biden and then doing forensic analysis months before Joe Biden and his campaign
00:26:41.440
concocted a false story. And then Joe Biden took that false story, the 51 intelligence aid analysts,
00:26:47.220
and he used it at the debate. He looked in the camera and said, it's Russian disinformation.
00:26:52.040
He concocted that entire scenario. So when people say, should I trust him now? Should I believe what
00:26:56.400
he says now? Just remember what he did in October 2020 to become president. He told the American people
00:27:02.240
a story that wasn't true. And his campaign concocted the untrue story, working with 51
00:27:07.460
people that earned their credibility on the backs of American taxpayers, 51 former government
00:27:12.800
intelligence agents. And what I find astonishing is that the national media, knowing their role
00:27:19.840
in retrospect, if they did not know it concurrently with the events that took place, the dastardly events,
00:27:26.980
that they have not acknowledged their role, they've not acknowledged their failings,
00:27:31.880
or they haven't acknowledged their guilt. It's only one of those two possibilities. And either way,
00:27:38.940
the fourth estate looks more like a fifth column carrying out the Marxist dims and deep states agenda
00:27:46.600
against the Republican Party, conservatives and the American people. It's just, as you say,
00:27:53.320
history is not going to be kind, nor should it be. I think one of the questions that we'll be
00:27:58.700
looking at retrospectively in a few years is why was the Republican leadership of the House of
00:28:05.580
Representatives? Why was there no urgency in moving these investigations ahead? Why was there no urgency
00:28:13.140
in impeaching Joe Biden? If not Joe Biden, why not Alejandro Mayorkas, the head of DHS?
00:28:22.280
Yes. Christopher Wray, who will appear before Congress, I'm sure, several times over the course of the next
00:28:29.240
months. How about just moving forward with some sense of urgency and at least convey to the American
00:28:38.380
people they understand the level of corruption and what is right, the right thing to do at this moment?
00:28:46.480
You know, it's hard. It feels like the Republicans have been in charge a really long time, but it's been
00:28:49.960
only about six months and there's been a lot of advancement and particularly on the Joe Biden part
00:28:54.840
of the Biden family scandal. For much of the prior years, it's always been focused on Hunter, poor
00:28:59.120
Hunter, the drug addict. Yeah, he traded on his dad name. But over the last couple of months, we've begun
00:29:04.220
to get information that really shows what you and I suspected from the beginning, Lou, and that is that
00:29:09.160
Joe Biden was the head of this effort to cash in on the family name. The fact that they've now
00:29:15.620
uncovered the 1023 informant report, the fact that they now have a close family friend telling the
00:29:23.840
FBI that Joe Biden attended the meeting with the Chinese, something he denied, the fact that Hunter
00:29:29.080
Biden's business partner, Devin Archer, is about to testify in the next couple of weeks to Congress.
00:29:33.780
These are pretty big advancements that move this from, hey, no story here, Russian disinformation, to
00:29:38.820
a very serious story, a tax violation by Hunter Biden. No, the president of the United States
00:29:44.100
probably was directly involved in. Those are significant gains. I think when I've asked these
00:29:48.900
lawmakers the very question you have, and I think you had Jim Jordan on just the other day,
00:29:53.540
why aren't you moving quicker? And the answer is we saw two drive-by impeachments. We saw two things
00:30:00.280
where Democrats rushed through. They did half-cock things. They misinformed the public. There are now
00:30:05.280
revelations coming out that half the evidence, much of the evidence they presented isn't true
00:30:10.560
or was lacking context. These Republicans have told me, this is what they say. I can only give
00:30:14.840
you what they say. We're moving quickly, but we don't want to do a drive-by impeachment. We want to
00:30:19.580
make sure that if we ask the American people to accept the next impeachment, that it's accurate,
00:30:24.020
that it isn't based on false or political motivations like the sort of stuff, the garbage that
00:30:28.300
Adam Schiff misled the American people with for three years. That's what they say back. Now,
00:30:34.320
history will judge them. They'll have a two-year window. Will they make a difference? Will they
00:30:39.020
create the sort of accountability they promised people before they got elected in November 2020?
00:30:43.700
The jury is clearly out on that. There's been some progress. There's been some new
00:30:47.780
revelations, but there really hasn't been anything more, as you called it, a tap on the head to Hunter
00:30:53.940
Biden. We'll see if Congress starts to bring that accountability over the next several months.
00:30:59.440
The clock is ticking. If they get into the election year and no real accountability has
00:31:04.360
been meted out, I think the American people say, hey, we gave you an opportunity. You whiffed. You
00:31:08.520
couldn't come back to boomerang on them in the 2024 election.
00:31:11.800
It absolutely certainly could. We're talking with John Solomon, the chief editor-in-chief of Just
00:31:18.860
the News. We're coming right back, and we're going to take up why those drive-bys occurred
00:31:23.800
and the distinction that we might make between then and now. We'll be right back with John Solomon.
00:31:36.880
We're back now talking with Just the News, John Solomon. John, I just wanted to
00:31:41.040
offer up what I think is a distinction between those two impeachments
00:31:45.280
attempted against President Trump and the impeachments that I believe are critically
00:31:51.640
necessary, urgently necessary right now of the Biden regime. There is wholesale corruption
00:31:59.880
throughout this administration. That is patently clear. But the difference is the reason there was
00:32:07.200
a drive-by in the Trump years of those two impeachments is they didn't have any evidence. They
00:32:13.140
didn't have a crime. They had the man, and they wanted to keep it moving and rolling and keep
00:32:19.380
their tap dancing going as fast as they could. And right now, we have the evidence. We have
00:32:27.300
also the crime. We also have the individual squarely in the sights of the three principal
00:32:33.760
investigating committees, if you add ways and means for investigating committees, who really, in my
00:32:42.160
opinion, should proceed just so that the American people know that the Republican Party does know
00:32:47.600
the right, the difference between right and wrong, not just rhetorically, but in terms of law and
00:32:54.100
consequence. Yeah, listen, that is such a powerful statement you just made, Alou. There is one thing to
00:33:01.500
get the facts out. There's another effort. The Democrats created opinions and false narratives and tried to
00:33:09.500
make them look like facts. And it took five years for John Durham to unravel that bizarre misconduct
00:33:17.580
by the FBI and by the Democrats in Congress. What the Republicans have done since they came in is say,
00:33:25.040
listen, we are not going to tell you what to believe. We're going to get you facts and let you
00:33:29.240
make up your own mind, American voter. So they were able to get the border chief, Raul Ortiz, to
00:33:34.980
acknowledge that Joe Biden lost operational control of the border. That testimony had never been given
00:33:40.020
before. And that becomes very important. Wait, Joe Biden had operational control of the border the
00:33:45.560
day Donald Trump gave him the keys. Now we don't. And as a result of that, X amount of fentanyl is
00:33:51.300
coming in enough to wipe out the United States multiple times over now. Those are facts that are
00:33:56.280
now in evidence. And if they do want to go and impeach Mayorkas for failing to do his job as home
00:34:02.240
in security, they're going to be able to say his border chief said this. The DEA reported that this
00:34:07.020
person died. This person did this. They're building a factual case. They're not doing what Adam
00:34:14.100
shifted time and again, which is you'll just have to trust me if you believe not what your eyes are
00:34:19.660
telling you, but what I'm telling you. If you're willing to see it, there was Russia collusion. That
00:34:23.060
was one of the famous lines that Adam Schiff gave us that I think is one of the more embarrassing
00:34:27.020
moments in congressional history. So Republicans are building a factual case. They're putting fact
00:34:31.900
by fact by fact. And then at some point, they're going to have to decide, did we put enough facts
00:34:37.100
into the American public, to the American public that we can ask the American public to accept a
00:34:41.780
legitimate impeachment proceeding? We don't know the answer to that because Republicans haven't
00:34:46.320
decided themselves. They're still in the process of getting facts. But there's a very big difference
00:34:51.520
from the games of illusion that people like Benny Thompson and Adam Schiff played. And there are moments
00:34:58.220
in my reporting where I realized just how bad the Democratic game of magic illusion,
00:35:04.020
political illusion was. There's a moment, I remember this, where the Democrats went out and
00:35:08.900
said, Bob Woodward confirms that this thing happened. And oh, we can put Bernie Carrick,
00:35:15.760
the former NYPD commissioner, someone who gained fame during his great work during the 9-11 crisis in
00:35:21.100
New York. We have him in Washington. You have to trust us. And I did the reporting and it called Bob
00:35:25.820
Woodward, like I didn't say that. I didn't report that. That's not true. And then a couple of days
00:35:29.700
later, I got the toll booth record showing that Hunter, that Bernie Carrick was not in Washington
00:35:35.900
like the January 6th committee claimed. He was in New York caring for a Democrat, for a family member
00:35:42.140
who was sick. The Democrats never did the groundwork to justify their allegations. They made the
00:35:49.380
allegations and hoped they could find the facts that would fit him. That's what Russia collusion was
00:35:53.460
about. And now we're learning much of January 6th was really not facts. It was illusion, movies,
00:36:00.520
Hollywood producers coming in and creating emotional appeals without the facts to back them
00:36:05.140
up on some things. The Republicans are taking a more boring, but I think in the long term,
00:36:10.480
different pair to which is we're going to start with facts. We're going to build the story wherever
00:36:13.800
the facts lead. The story will be solid. And then we will ask the American people for political
00:36:18.340
permission to do the things, whether it's impeachment or, or removing funding for agencies
00:36:24.260
or ending the FISA powers of the FBI. Maybe that'll happen this fall. So there is a very big difference
00:36:31.080
in how the oversight hearings in the last few years, the impeachment hearings have been carried out.
00:36:35.560
I think the American people sense that there's a difference, but the real question is if they don't
00:36:40.560
end up with any more accountability now than they got two years ago, four years ago, six years ago,
00:36:44.700
it is a zero sum loss for the American people. So they want to see now, okay, you're building a
00:36:49.540
factual basis. What's the consequence? We're going to find out in the next few weeks, whether
00:36:53.740
or next few months, whether Republicans have the courage to create consequences that voters are asking
00:36:58.620
for. You're right. And we're also going to find out really what kind of, what kind of people are
00:37:07.680
in this investigation. They're talking with Congressman Jordan, Chairman Jordan, chairman of the
00:37:14.060
Judiciary Committee, and chairman of the Subcommittee on Weaponization of Government, doing a magnificent
00:37:19.320
job. But there is only, there are only two weeks left before they have to adjourn for this summer.
00:37:26.640
There is then all that will follow. There is, the year will be gone before we know it.
00:37:34.500
And meanwhile, a thousand people are in jeopardy of being arrested by the Department of Justice for their
00:37:40.000
actions or accused, accusations of actions on January 6th. Another thousand. We have hundreds
00:37:48.140
still in jail. Prisoners of, political prisoners of this deep state and the Marxist dems.
00:37:56.640
We have a responsibility, it seems to me, to proceed urgently because these are real. We have parents who
00:38:04.260
are being accused of being domestic terrorists. We have school systems that are failing because of the
00:38:09.480
rancid corruption of two teachers unions and what they're doing to school districts all over the
00:38:15.200
country. We have thousands of children who are being mutilated, who are being groomed in public schools
00:38:22.060
from the age of apparently six on in some places. We have great wrongs to right here. There are great
00:38:32.500
sins that are being committed. And every day we do nothing. Every day that we fail to bring
00:38:39.340
them to account, the Marxist dems, the deep state, the Marxist left. That is on us. Your thoughts?
00:38:47.940
I don't think I could find a voter in America who would disagree with what you just said. We have to
00:38:53.940
have accountability and time runs out much faster. And by the way, the Democrats are planning on
00:38:59.340
running out the clock. They've done that for years and they're very good at it when they're in the
00:39:03.080
minority. They can slow down the processes and some of what's going on in the Joe Biden thing is
00:39:07.720
slowing down. David Weiss, I can't talk about this now. And, you know, some of the witnesses
00:39:12.560
constantly rescheduling interviews so they can't be interviewed. The Republicans have to overcome
00:39:19.060
these obstacles if they want to win the trust of the American people. Now, some very important things
00:39:24.320
have happened that benefit the American people. Consequences. I'll give you a couple of them.
00:39:28.820
Joe Biden in less than a year was blocked from giving away four, five, six, seven, eight hundred
00:39:36.260
billion dollars to pay off student loans for which he had no thing. That case went through the court
00:39:41.380
system very effectively and quickly. And Joe Biden was told what he was doing was unconstitutional,
00:39:46.660
illegal, and he couldn't do it. That's a consequence. Just 48 hours ago for the second time in a week,
00:39:52.740
a federal judge told Joe Biden, you cannot infringe free speech of Americans like you did in 19,
00:39:59.080
20, 21, 2022. The Justice Department may not talk and other agencies may not talk to social media
00:40:04.840
and censor political speech. That's protect it. You got to stop it. So there have been some
00:40:09.580
consequences and some reversals that protect the American people. Most of those victories have
00:40:14.840
occurred in the courts. Most of those victories were prompted by either private parties or Republicans in
00:40:19.880
the states, the attorney generals and others. Congress has built a good record of facts.
00:40:24.720
They're helping the American people understand what went wrong. Yes, Afghanistan really was the
00:40:30.960
disaster that people thought it was. Yes, there's been illegal censorship. Yes, Joe Biden has very
00:40:36.540
serious bribery allegations that have never been fully investigated. Yes, Hunter Biden got a sweetheart
00:40:41.560
deal. All that is great on Congress's part. It's the first part of the bargain they have with the
00:40:46.160
American people to get the truth out. But now they must create consequence. If House Republicans
00:40:51.840
renew the FISA authority like they did in 17 in the face of evidence that it had been abused against
00:40:57.340
Donald Trump, they will be aiding and abetting the Democratic machinery in what they're doing.
00:41:02.080
If Republicans don't create a early get out the vote system like the Democrats did and try to get
00:41:06.980
themselves on equal ground, they will be at a disadvantage again in the 2024 election. If the
00:41:12.780
Republicans wait to November 2024 to try to come up for a prescription for the open border, the
00:41:18.040
fentanyl, the drug trafficking and the human child trafficking, they will not have won any favor with
00:41:23.800
the American people. They've begun to create informational timelines and facts that aren't in
00:41:28.480
the public record before. But the American people are not going to judge them on how well they got the
00:41:33.040
facts out. They're going to judge them on how much they made America better. Did they use their
00:41:37.180
authority to create accountability and to stop bad behavior? There's been a couple of victories,
00:41:41.840
most of them not Congress. We'll see if Congress creates some accountability victories for the
00:41:46.060
American people between now and really the spring of next year. By the end of by spring of next year,
00:41:50.640
we're in the presidential season and everything's going to come to a grinding halt. So they really
00:41:54.080
have a few more months to get the people's business done.
00:41:57.360
Hence my question about urgency, the critical urgency that we face right now.
00:42:05.200
John, I have to tell you what a delight it is to talk with you whenever we have these opportunities.
00:42:09.880
I appreciate you being with us here. And as you know, we always give our guests
00:42:13.200
the last word here. You're concluding thoughts, John.
00:42:16.460
There's going to be a couple of big moments that I think we're going to learn
00:42:18.860
from in the next few weeks. I think the two IRS whistleblowers will be in public for the first
00:42:23.940
time and Americans can set their eyes on them and see what type of men they are.
00:42:28.040
And then I think Devin Archer is slated to testify right now. The date I'm hearing is July 23rd,
00:42:33.840
so less than two weeks away or two weeks from today or less than two weeks from today. He'll
00:42:37.800
be testifying. Those are big, big moments. Those are important moments for the American people because
00:42:43.680
they will learn things that have been long suppressed from them. We're going to find out
00:42:49.340
from a man who will know, did Joe Biden take action to help Hunter Biden or Burisma or China
00:42:55.540
or any of those other partners? That's going to be one of the big questions. We were trying to get
00:42:59.500
an answer to 19 and 20 because of impeachment. And they have 51 intelligence. We were deprived
00:43:05.040
the truth on that. The moment of truth. Did Joe Biden actually take action to further his son's
00:43:11.300
business deals while he was vice president, while he was using the authority and color of the
00:43:14.540
government? If that's established this month, which it could be with Devin Archer, the true
00:43:20.360
ultimate insider in the Biden family business, then the question is going to confront Congress.
00:43:25.140
What are you going to do about it? And that will be that moment of whether we see an
00:43:29.100
urgent press towards accountability or the sort of rope-a-dope and excuse-making that prior
00:43:35.020
congressional Republican majorities gave the American public, such as they did on Russia
00:43:38.920
collusion. They never really got very much accountability for the Russia collusion
00:43:43.620
players. So this next week, we're going to get probably the most, the next month, we're going
00:43:49.080
to get the most important questions we possibly could get answered. And then the question is,
00:43:52.960
what will Republicans do about it? Or will they just go into another election without
00:43:57.460
meeting out accountability? That's what's really at stake in the next few months.
00:44:01.380
John Solomon, thank you for being with us here on The Great America Show. Thank you,
00:44:05.460
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00:44:17.680
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