The Great America Show - April 20, 2023


DID BIDEN’S CAMPAIGN AND THE DEEP STATE CHEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND CHANGE HISTORY？


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A new congressional probe has uncovered ties between the Biden campaign and the 51 intel veterans who sent a letter to the public claiming that a laptop stolen from a Democratic primary candidate s home was the work of a Russian intelligence agency. John Solomon of the Just the News joins Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show.

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00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Show. Great to have you with us.
00:00:05.780 President Trump continues to surge in the polls and he's well on his way to the Republican
00:00:11.340 nomination. Yes, I know, the race isn't until next year. But already he's driving the 2024
00:00:18.120 wannabe candidates out of the race. And they're dropping like flies, as the saying goes. The
00:00:24.160 latest Real Clear Politics average has Donald Trump at 52 percent, DeSantis at a distant 24 percent,
00:00:31.240 and farther, farther back. The next closest is former Vice President Mike Pence. As Trump continues
00:00:38.200 to pick up endorsements from members of Congress across the country, Ron DeSantis is struggling to
00:00:44.220 hold on to his early donors and to hold on to support. This week, as parts of South Florida
00:00:50.960 flooded, even shutting down airports due to rising water levels, DeSantis was nowhere to be found.
00:00:58.220 And we were looking for him. We always look for those white boots when there's flooding.
00:01:02.880 Governor DeSantis was instead up in Washington, D.C., chasing sugar plums and pudding dreams.
00:01:10.420 That is, more money. More money, please. One of the people he met with in D.C. was Congressman
00:01:16.480 Lance Gooden of Texas. And just moments after that meeting with Congressman Gooden,
00:01:22.220 the congressman released the following statement. Quote,
00:01:25.860 I met with Governor DeSantis while he has done commendable work in Florida.
00:01:30.340 There is no doubt in my mind that President Trump is the only leader who can save America
00:01:35.700 from the leftist onslaught we're currently facing. He continued,
00:01:40.360 I wholeheartedly endorse President Donald J. Trump for the 2024 presidential election
00:01:46.400 and vowed a fight alongside him to reclaim our country from the leftist forces that threatened
00:01:52.220 to destroy it. And that, folks, is how Ron DeSantis' unofficial presidential campaign
00:01:57.980 is going right now. Turning now to a story that we've been covering for quite some time,
00:02:04.100 because it's been quite some time that Hunter Biden has been under investigation.
00:02:09.000 The story, the Hunter Biden laptop. A new congressional probe has uncovered ties
00:02:15.300 between the Biden campaign and the letter signed by those 51 intel officials that dismissed the
00:02:22.760 laptop from hell as, quote, Russian disinformation. Republicans in the House are now saying that letter
00:02:30.360 was coordinated with the Biden campaign, and that coordination constitutes consequential
00:02:36.980 election interference. Joining us now is John Solomon. He's the founder and editor-in-chief of
00:02:43.080 Just the News. And, John, great to have you with us. Good to see you. I want to start with your
00:02:47.600 reporting on Just the News of that connection between the Biden campaign and the notorious 51 intel
00:02:55.320 veterans who lied to the American people about Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian interference.
00:03:02.980 Yeah, listen, we now know this to be one of the most grievous interferences in American electoral
00:03:09.080 history. 51 intelligence experts telling us that Russian or that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian
00:03:14.720 disinformation when, in fact, it wasn't. But for most of the last a couple of years, the storyline in the
00:03:20.620 news media and in official Washington has been that those agents, those intelligence experts were acting
00:03:26.440 on their own. This was an organic moment. It was not driven by the Biden campaign. They literally thought there
00:03:31.700 might be a Russian disinformation campaign going on. And that's the story that's stuck. And it's part
00:03:36.440 of the reason why even Republicans and Democrats alike haven't really tried to hold those 51
00:03:40.880 accountable. Well, over the last couple of weeks, Jim Jordan and his weaponization subcommittee in the
00:03:46.060 House have been interviewing all of the key players on that letter, piece by piece, person by person,
00:03:52.120 building a case like the mob prosecutors build a case. And they've come across some very valuable
00:03:56.920 information. They have been able to identify, according to Jim Jordan, an interview I did with him
00:04:01.480 over the weekend, the one of the ringleaders of the effort. It is Mike Morrell, the former deputy
00:04:06.960 CIA director. And for a while, he was acting CIA director. So very senior member of the Intelligence
00:04:13.280 Committee. Mike Morrell acknowledged he played a significant role in the orchestrating of the
00:04:17.880 letter. He acknowledged that there was another former CIA official, Nick Shapiro, who has ties to
00:04:23.360 Hillary Clinton and to Barack Obama, that they played a big role in not only getting the letter signed,
00:04:28.380 but disseminating the letter to the American public. But most importantly, Mike Morrell said in his
00:04:34.620 interview, his contacts or his impetus for doing this started with the Biden campaign. Right now, we don't
00:04:42.120 know the exact Biden campaign official who contacted Morrell, but there is a confirmation from Jim Jordan
00:04:47.740 that the Biden campaign was directly involved in instigating and spreading this letter, which takes us from it being
00:04:54.020 an organic intelligence matter that maybe people are off base on to a clearly political interference
00:05:00.420 in the election. Major, major revelation. It is a major revelation. It is also something I think that we
00:05:08.240 suspected at least when 51 former, well, five former directors of the CIA, 51 in total until veterans come
00:05:19.740 together to write a letter about their assessment of a laptop, which doesn't on its face square up.
00:05:27.340 When else have they done that? What has there been? There's never been. I remember we go back to the
00:05:32.640 Clinton years and get 500 economists to say that, you know, the Clinton plan is great. Bringing 51
00:05:39.380 intelligence veterans together, that is a is a first, at least as I remember. It is. And that's why I think
00:05:46.220 it's fair to now say it was one of the most egregious examples of election interference by Americans.
00:05:52.160 These were American U.S. intelligence officials, people who had long careers. Many still had their
00:05:57.780 national security clearances. We now know when they wrote the letter, they had no basis, meaning there
00:06:02.540 was no active intelligence suggesting what they suggested letter, that this laptop was Russian
00:06:08.340 disinformation. In fact, quite the contrary. We know from John Ratcliffe that at the time they wrote
00:06:13.460 this letter, the intelligence showed there was no Russian disinformation about this laptop, that in
00:06:18.140 fact, it was a laptop already in the possession of the FBI and already authenticated by the FBI.
00:06:24.320 So when these 51 signed this letter and they put their credentials, their American security
00:06:29.340 credentials behind it, they end up having a profound impact on the election. I just interviewed
00:06:34.320 Congressman Austin Scott a few minutes ago. He's a House Intelligence Committee member.
00:06:38.320 He said two very profound things. Joe Biden wouldn't be president if these 51 intelligence
00:06:43.960 officers weren't involved in attempting to hijack the public and to create a cover up on the Hunter
00:06:49.580 Biden laptop. We wouldn't have the inflation and all the pain and suffering that we have had it not
00:06:54.640 been for this cover up by these intelligence officials. We wouldn't have the losses to China,
00:06:59.680 all the gains that China's making on the world stage had these intelligence officials not covered up the
00:07:05.440 Hunter Biden laptop. He said it's so consequential because so much history has flown from that
00:07:10.720 decision to write that letter. Think about that too, John. October was a month of history.
00:07:20.500 It was. History being rewritten before it occurred, if you will, because undoubtedly the assessment of
00:07:27.060 those 51 who came together to write that letter, they did change history because that gave Joe Biden
00:07:35.440 a shield with which to blunt all the discussion of the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop,
00:07:43.220 that in and of itself. And then William Barr, the Attorney General of the United States,
00:07:50.060 who in that same month chose not to intervene in the election and tell people that he knew that Joe
00:07:58.940 Biden was lying about that letter and about that laptop. It's extraordinary.
00:08:06.840 Yeah, listen, we're going to look back at the fall of 2020 in 20 years later with history and hindsight
00:08:14.220 and realize that this was one of the most heinous, worst moments in America, electrical products.
00:08:19.460 Sure, we've had all sorts of dirty tricks played. The Bush campaign once ran an effort to smear John
00:08:25.960 McCain with a fake love child in South Carolina. There's been many dirty tactics used in politics,
00:08:31.260 but this was a systemic effort carried out by people with direct ties from the United States
00:08:36.500 government to mislead the American people, to make them think that there was no there there with
00:08:42.040 Hunter Biden, that it was a Russian disinformation trick, when in fact the laptop was in the hands of the
00:08:48.160 FBI. The FBI already had an active investigation of tax matters into Hunter Biden and many of the
00:08:55.660 emails in that laptop, which we now know are to be authenticated and been found again by mass media,
00:09:03.040 that they showed a pattern of influence peddling, that Joe Biden and his family were selling his name
00:09:09.220 to foreign entities that don't have our best interest at heart. Chinese entities, Russian entities,
00:09:14.700 Ukrainian entities, all of that would have mattered to the American people had it been treated as true
00:09:20.660 instead of being falsely portrayed as a Russian disinformation effort. So much consequence,
00:09:26.840 I think we'll look back and say one of the worst interventions ever in our American political history.
00:09:32.020 And a declination, as it's called, in national security circles, to prosecute an outright straightforward
00:09:44.580 crime against D.C. and the American way. When they decided that they were not going, when Bill Barr
00:09:54.280 decided he was not going to intervene, he intervened. The act of not intervening and telling the American
00:10:00.960 people what he knew was a horrific crime of omission. Also, his agents from the FBI censoring conservative
00:10:11.800 voices on social media, whether it's obviously Twitter or Facebook. It's just an appalling month. And all of that
00:10:23.940 compressed into 30 days that changed the history of the country.
00:10:28.500 Exactly what our founding fathers never wanted to happen. Censorship, a big government misleading its own
00:10:33.880 people, a government putting its finger on the thumb of a scabble election. It wasn't a free and fair election
00:10:39.920 if the information that the people were making it, the voters were making it on, was altered or changed or suppressed.
00:10:47.060 And that's clearly what happened in that time frame. There's no other way to look at it except that there was a significant
00:10:54.100 intervention. And it was done in many ways with the assistance of people directly in the government or directly tied to the government.
00:11:01.600 The FBI had its own operation center in San Francisco that was directly making censorship requests. That's direct government involvement.
00:11:09.300 These 51 intelligence operatives still have their security clients, as many of them, and they're operating with somebody that's tied to the
00:11:18.140 Clinton campaign and using their credentials to mislead the American people. It certainly is going to be a less than proud moment in
00:11:25.940 history as we come to understand all of it. We're going to learn a lot more. Jim Jordan says he hopes to be able to provide the names of the
00:11:32.900 Biden campaign officials in an interim report. So we'll know who actually carried out this operation inside the
00:11:39.000 Biden campaign. We'll learn more details within about 10 days is what we're hearing from Jim Jordan. So a big, big moment of more
00:11:46.060 revelation and hopefully, eventually some accountability for these people.
00:11:50.760 And all of that coming to you from the executive editor, editor-in-chief, the honcho, and also the founder of Just the News.
00:12:00.380 We're talking with, of course, John Solomon. We're going to take a break to bring you our sponsors, a couple of quick
00:12:07.160 messages, and we'll be right back. Please stay with us.
00:12:10.560 And we're back now. We're talking with John Solomon of Just the News. We're talking about the revelations in Just the News
00:12:18.640 of the relationship between the Biden campaign and the 51 signatories of that infamous letter from the
00:12:29.220 intelligence veterans so-called, including five directors of the CIA, looking like far more than an act of
00:12:37.000 conscience or national duty on the part of those veterans. It was a political act, right, John?
00:12:42.640 It was. And, you know, I was thinking today, Lou, you've been such an important voice on China security
00:12:49.000 matters for so long, long before other people realized the emerging threat. The policies that the
00:12:54.780 Biden administration had pursued since winning that election under false pretenses are becoming more and more clear.
00:13:00.880 Today, we had two really dramatic moments in the United States government.
00:13:05.120 Two Chinese nationals charged with setting up an illegal police station in New York.
00:13:09.980 China setting up its own police operations on our soil, below our noses, because they don't have any respect for Joe Biden.
00:13:15.880 And then 40 officers of the Chinese national police charged separately with trying to intimidate Chinese Americans and other Americans from talking on social media, having free speech, speaking out against China.
00:13:30.440 That would not have happened under a Donald Trump administration. It would not have happened, quite frankly, under any earlier administration.
00:13:36.780 Joe Biden's weakness on China, which has only become stronger, become more pronounced since he became president,
00:13:43.140 a direct result of the interference that those 51 national security officers imposed on the American people during the election.
00:13:52.060 And this is a continuation of what has been a trend for over 20 years.
00:13:58.260 We know that the Chinese are stealing from us every year to the tune of about $600 billion in intellectual property and technology. 1.00
00:14:07.600 And we continue to fund the rise and the growth of the power, military power of the CCP, the People's Republic of China, and do nothing about it.
00:14:20.480 And so suddenly in this, what is this, the 26th month of the Biden administration,
00:14:27.100 we suddenly see them take action against these police outposts of the CCP in this country.
00:14:33.800 They still haven't moved the Confucius Institutes off of universities, even some high schools.
00:14:40.420 There has been nothing but a woefully inadequate response by this administration to a national security threat.
00:14:47.640 This is their first, even as minute as it is, their first action and reaction to the CCP's intrusion into the U.S.
00:14:57.880 Yeah, no, it's just really remarkable.
00:15:00.940 And if you read these indictments today, the level of detail, the level of bravado that China feels, 0.85
00:15:07.540 China has no fear of Joe Biden.
00:15:09.560 And whether it's because of the Hunter Biden deals or just because Joe Biden has had a weak record of national security over his 40, 50 years in government,
00:15:18.500 as you know, the former defense secretary for Barack Obama said he was wrong.
00:15:22.460 Joe Biden was wrong at every major national security issue of the last half century.
00:15:26.320 Whatever the reason, whether he's compromised or just purely weak, China no longer has any fear,
00:15:33.020 any concern about going on our territory, intimidating our American citizens,
00:15:39.500 opening up a police station with their color of authority on our U.S. soil.
00:15:43.760 Well, the indictments show a level of audaciousness and bravado that I can't imagine China would have felt 0.99
00:15:51.440 than any other president's watch.
00:15:53.020 And I think that's the big consequence here.
00:15:55.540 China floats a balloon across the sky, doesn't get shot down until it hits the Atlantic.
00:15:59.800 Why?
00:16:00.240 Because they know Joe Biden's not going to be strong on it.
00:16:02.420 The record of Joe Biden on China is a direct outcome of the intervention that occurred in that election
00:16:08.780 that allowed him to become president under false pretenses.
00:16:12.080 And whether he's compromised or just impaired or both, his policies toward China are at the root of our national security.
00:16:25.100 And he is woefully, as you were saying, he's woefully inadequate in both policies and response to threats.
00:16:33.200 Right now, we're watching China with these extraordinary exercises in the Strait of Taiwan and now in the South China Sea.
00:16:43.880 We're watching Russia continue its war against Ukraine without so much as an apparent suggestion
00:16:50.680 that perhaps there be a pause and that there be peace negotiations of some sort.
00:16:55.760 Biden seems to be utterly, utterly absent.
00:17:02.600 Yeah, I think that's exactly what people see.
00:17:05.500 He doesn't have press conferences.
00:17:07.860 President Trump had contact with the press almost daily answering questions.
00:17:11.620 Joe Biden hasn't had one nearly in 180 days.
00:17:15.040 He doesn't have any engagement on the world stage.
00:17:17.480 You see France go out and start courting China and having conversations with China and even entertaining an idea from China
00:17:25.640 that they might support a reunification with Taiwan, something against American interests.
00:17:30.460 No response from the president of the United States.
00:17:33.180 The sense that Joe Biden is not on the front lines of national security or domestic policy,
00:17:38.400 he hasn't been to the train wreck in Ohio to that site yet.
00:17:41.980 The feeling that he's AWOL, not there, is growing among everyday Americans and including some in his own party.
00:17:48.120 There are more Democrats I talked to today, Lou, who are more concerned about Joe Biden and willing to speak out than they were just a few years ago.
00:17:54.980 And it's part of the reason why Joe Manchin is privately talking about maybe making an independent run and challenging Joe Biden
00:18:01.280 because he feels like the president of his party isn't doing the job.
00:18:05.520 Which is a testament to the strength of Donald Trump in his polling numbers.
00:18:12.560 My goodness, we're seeing both candidates and potential candidates in the GOP in the race for the presidential nomination falling to the wayside already.
00:18:23.860 I mean, this is pretty straightforward early reduction.
00:18:29.560 Yeah, listen, Mike Pompeo decided not to run.
00:18:31.680 That was a big moment in the political sphere.
00:18:34.280 Most of the others that are in the race already are in the single digits compared to President Trump, who's in the 50s and 60 percent approval rating.
00:18:42.140 Ron DeSantis, who's not in the race but is assumed to be joining, he's been dropping in the polling numbers.
00:18:47.920 And right now, President Trump's superiority in the Republican primary is more pronounced now than it was a few months ago.
00:18:55.420 And that comes despite these indictments and criminal investigations that Democratic machinery have thrown at him.
00:19:01.520 A fascinating moment in politics.
00:19:03.520 I don't think there's another moment in politics where we've seen this dynamic in a primary.
00:19:08.940 A vastly attacked candidate rising in the polls.
00:19:12.600 And I think part of the reason why, and I've been talking to a lot of pollsters, Lou, President Trump has, since the 2022 election, focused on substance.
00:19:21.500 He keeps putting out these five and seven minute speeches that are prescriptions to all that ails America.
00:19:26.880 People want solutions.
00:19:28.520 They're tired of excuses.
00:19:29.680 They want solutions.
00:19:30.860 Donald Trump has been giving people solution after solution day after day since the campaign started.
00:19:35.840 And I think that's driving a lot of his poll numbers, according to the pollsters.
00:19:38.640 Well, and whatever he's doing, it certainly is working.
00:19:42.280 But he's getting an awful, I guess he would probably hesitate at calling it help from these Marxist, dim prosecutors that George Soros has put in place around the country or help place.
00:19:53.720 But he is rising definitely and has numbers that are breathtaking, given all that he is going through, the assaults from the Democrat Party, from the left, from the establishment, and now the Republicans.
00:20:10.200 We watched major donor and friends, as he put it, withdrawing their support, a pause, if you will, for Ron DeSantis.
00:20:22.500 Is this, does this augur real trouble or is this just a momentary point in the campaign process?
00:20:30.640 You know, it's too early to tell.
00:20:32.500 I do think that there are some warning signs.
00:20:34.180 The more that Governor DeSantis has ramped up his national activities, the more he's stubbed his toe, the more he's had some awkward moments.
00:20:41.780 The interview with Piers Morgan didn't go well.
00:20:45.060 The flip-flop on Ukraine policy, where he starts on the Trump sort of America first way of dealing with Ukraine and then quickly flips around to the neocon view that maybe a George W. Bush would have held two decades ago.
00:20:56.920 He has undercut some of the authenticity that people think Ron DeSantis brings from his success in Florida.
00:21:04.180 And I think it's a reminder, and we know this for everyone who's ever run for president, the difference between being the big dog on a state like Florida and the difference of being on the national stage, it's a much harder thing.
00:21:15.820 You have to think.
00:21:16.520 You have to be more strategic.
00:21:17.820 You have to be more skilled.
00:21:19.040 You have to think about the chess game that is international security, national security.
00:21:23.500 And I think that Ron DeSantis is getting his first day so that he's got a great record in Florida.
00:21:29.320 But the question now that some donors have is, is he really ready for prime time at the national level?
00:21:34.860 And the early answer seems to be no.
00:21:36.860 We'll find out.
00:21:37.540 He may mature.
00:21:38.680 He may be too busy with what's going on with the state legislature right now to focus on it.
00:21:42.960 But he's had some missteps, and that's clearly played into his declining poll numbers.
00:21:48.060 Or as Mike Pompeo put it, perhaps it is just simply not his time either.
00:21:52.940 That's right.
00:21:54.020 We're talking with John Solomon, folks, and we're going to come right back after this quick word from our sponsors.
00:21:59.800 Stay with us.
00:22:01.220 We're back now talking with John Solomon of Just the News.
00:22:04.480 And, John, I want to turn, if I may, to this 21-year-old National Guardsman brought up on charges of espionage for releasing highly sensitive material, classified documents.
00:22:19.160 The Biden administration seems to have trouble with that sort of thing.
00:22:22.020 But this young man does not fit the profile of most leakers or, if you will, saboteurs.
00:22:30.540 Yeah.
00:22:31.220 Listen, I think this is going to, this case of the Massachusetts National Guardsman is going to spur a significant review of who has access to what information.
00:22:40.940 Think about what this man leaked that he had access to.
00:22:43.600 He's a 21-year-old Guardsman, low in the rank of even the National Guard, and he was accessing secrets that were actually created for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
00:22:54.680 Some of the most consequential and sensitive information that our U.S. government has.
00:23:00.420 How did the system get that far out of straight?
00:23:03.260 How did it get so cockeyed that someone who doesn't need that information has access to it and then can spread it around for weeks without anyone in the United States government notice it?
00:23:13.640 If it wasn't for the Russians waving it in our faces, we might not have yet still seen it, which raises some serious concerns. 0.98
00:23:21.820 Many of the members of the House Intelligence Committee I'm talking to say this is a moment of reckoning.
00:23:27.160 We are going to have to tighten up who has access to information, how it's checked, how it's regulated, who is vetted for that information.
00:23:35.320 This was a wake-up call, and I won't want to argue, Chelsea.
00:23:38.380 Manning was a wake-up call.
00:23:39.460 WikiLeaks was a wake-up call.
00:23:41.040 Nothing happened after those terrible episodes.
00:23:44.140 This one here, there's early bipartisan movement suggesting there's going to be a significant shrinking of the people who have access to the most important secrets of the country, top secret and compartmentalized.
00:23:56.580 I think that's going to be one of the outgrowths.
00:23:58.140 But we still don't understand the full magnitude of failure here or the full magnitude of exposure that this man has put out there.
00:24:06.720 This young man seems to have had a perfect record, a strong personal background, family background, a military family.
00:24:15.080 And he made a decision to put this in front of the public, knowing full well what he was doing.
00:24:21.840 The information that has resulted is illuminating about what is going on in Ukraine.
00:24:30.240 It is illuminating about the number of balloons that have flown over the country.
00:24:35.440 And much of it is in direct contravention to what we have been told by our government to this point.
00:24:42.560 When you take a look at it, listen, we can't condone what the man did because he signed an oath to protect this information.
00:24:49.620 He didn't, right?
00:24:50.320 But when you look at the information, how many more times do we need to be reminded that the stories that Joe Biden has given us have not been true?
00:24:58.880 We were told that the balloon couldn't be controlled by the Chinese and that it was blocked from sending a signal.
00:25:03.580 It wasn't at all.
00:25:04.880 We were told it was an isolated incident.
00:25:06.900 It appears to be multiple incidents.
00:25:09.180 We were told there wasn't an opportunity to shoot it down until it got to the Atlantic safely.
00:25:13.480 That wasn't true.
00:25:14.520 That's just one of many episodes where Joe Biden's story unraveled over the course of two or three weeks.
00:25:20.600 And this National Guardsman's leaks, when you look at the information he was just sharing in his circle of friends in a gaming community, it really puts the lie to so much of what our government's been telling us.
00:25:32.480 And the real question now is, how can the government, how can those people who sit at the podium every day and look us in the eye and tell us these things aren't true when they come out?
00:25:41.340 How do they continue to have their jobs?
00:25:43.160 That's a big question.
00:25:44.360 We now know we are overtly being lied to by our government, particularly in the Biden administration.
00:25:50.060 And yet there's been no consequence.
00:25:51.980 The same people come out tomorrow and tell us another bunch of lies without consequence because there is no accountability in Washington right now.
00:25:59.940 So, Kareem, Jane Paul, and Admiral Kirby.
00:26:05.240 I always think when I call him Admiral, I have to remind myself that he was an admiral in the United States Navy because he lies daily.
00:26:14.880 And once he seemed to be embarrassed by what he had to say, but he no longer seems embarrassed.
00:26:21.220 And that's a shame because to think of a man being in the rising to that rank in the United States military and to be in that role is it's appalling.
00:26:32.220 Yeah, it is.
00:26:34.480 And listen, it isn't just isolated to them.
00:26:36.960 Think about what we were told during the failings of the Afghanistan withdrawal and how much we've learned since then that those statements, by the way, oftentimes with people in uniform, that those weren't true either.
00:26:50.900 And I think that there is a moment now when people ask, well, why do Americans have such a low regard for government?
00:26:56.920 Why aren't they willing to trust their government anymore?
00:26:59.200 It's because the history of lying and the history of deceiving the American people has gotten so commonplace that it's actually rare when you get an accurate story.
00:27:09.920 Now, it's actually the opposite of what we came to expect of our government.
00:27:12.720 I think it's a real challenge.
00:27:15.440 And I think until Republicans in Congress use their power of the purse to start punishing some of the people that have perpetuated lies, who have jeopardized national security with false stories, until that happens, I don't think the temptation to lie tomorrow or the next day or the day after has been reduced one bit.
00:27:33.920 I think it's every day people go out and say, well, there's not going to be any consequence to what I say today, so I'll say whatever the politicians want me to say.
00:27:41.380 That is a very dangerous moment in American history when our government doesn't feel it has an obligation to tell the American people the truth.
00:27:49.740 And I think that moment is without question at hand.
00:27:54.720 Thankfully, Chairman Jim Jordan, chairing the judiciary and the weaponization of government committees, and of course, James Comer at the House Oversight.
00:28:07.220 Those two men and those committees, those two committees and one subcommittee, have an opportunity to reverse much of this.
00:28:16.020 How do you believe, John Solomon, they're doing?
00:28:18.320 Listen, I think they're taking an old-fashioned approach.
00:28:21.320 I'm watching them, and I used to, you know, when I first started in my career, I did a lot of covering of the FBI and crime cases and the mob cases.
00:28:28.000 And they're building cases the way mob prosecutors do.
00:28:32.200 They build up from the bottom up.
00:28:33.960 They get one person to cooperate, roll up on the next person, next person.
00:28:37.020 I think that's how we ultimately are going to learn about how the Biden campaign was behind the 51, the letter by the 51 national security experts.
00:28:46.280 It's methodical, but they're building towards a much larger narrative.
00:28:50.560 And I think over the next couple of weeks, though, I'm going to make a bold prediction.
00:28:54.120 I think we're going to learn why, after all the evidence that's sitting in public, why Hunter Biden has not – there hasn't been a resolution of should he be charged or not be charged.
00:29:03.620 And I think the level of work that Congress is doing to get an answer to that is really important.
00:29:09.140 They're rolling up small whistleblowers to larger whistleblowers.
00:29:12.480 They're getting one document that leads to another document.
00:29:15.380 And they're eventually putting together the stories that the American government have tried to keep from its people.
00:29:20.660 I think Jim Jordan and James Cohn are going to surprise a lot of people in the next month.
00:29:24.200 I think we're going to learn some explosive things about Hunter Biden.
00:29:27.080 I think we're going to learn some explosive things about things that have gone on in the border, particularly with China crossing our border, where they're coming from, what we've known, and what we're not telling the American people.
00:29:36.260 All of those contribute to a dialogue that makes us a smarter country, at least at the electorate level, and more able to say the next time Corinne Jean-Pierre or Admiral Kirby or someone else gets up and says something and say, I don't believe you because – and here are the facts.
00:29:51.200 And I think that's the moment that Jim Jordan, James Comer, and some of the other people keep an eye on Adam Smith in the – I'm sorry, Jason Smith at House Ways and Means.
00:30:00.460 I think there's some major investigations going to be coming to light that are going to make us smarter and better able to counteract the lies that the United States government have been giving its people.
00:30:10.980 And amongst those lies, as we talk about Biden, it is amazing to think we're in the eighth year of the political persecution of Donald Trump.
00:30:21.080 We're also now in the seventh year, the seventh year of the Hunter Biden grand jury in Delaware.
00:30:29.340 I imagine that.
00:30:31.200 This started under Obama.
00:30:32.860 It was a tax case.
00:30:34.420 That takes us all the way back to 2016.
00:30:37.040 Here we are in 2023, seven years, and now we're approaching a point of just utter absurdity in this country.
00:30:48.660 I think you're right, and I think we're going to find out something very valuable in the next week or 10 days about what's going on behind closed doors.
00:30:55.660 I want to call everybody's attention to a little episode that occurred in Congress about two months ago.
00:31:00.800 Chuck Grassi just asking questions of Merrick Garland saying, hey, has there ever been an effort to – or ever been a conversation about upgrading the Hunter Biden prosecutor, that Delaware U.S. attorney, to a special counsel?
00:31:12.740 So have there been any evidence that political appointees under the Biden administration have interfered with decision-making in the Biden case?
00:31:21.680 I think we're going to find out some information in the next couple of months – couple weeks, excuse me – that call into question the assurances that Merrick Garland gave us and the storyline that the Justice Department has gave us.
00:31:33.360 And that is a direct result of James Comer, Chuck Grassi, Jim Jordan, Jason Smith asking hard questions below our visibility level but rolling up towards a big story.
00:31:45.920 And I think the next few weeks are going to be very consequential in learning about why Hunter Biden has not faced a final decision on accountability for all that we know he did.
00:31:56.220 And the good news, I think I can add one more name to that list of honor, and that would be Senator Ron Johnson, who is working with Senator Grassley.
00:32:06.500 That's right.
00:32:07.100 They have done a lot for the country.
00:32:09.660 And I am pleased to hear John Solomon say we've got some good news coming over the next two or three weeks.
00:32:17.420 John, it's always a pleasure to talk with you.
00:32:19.720 We thank you for being with us here, and God bless you.
00:32:23.080 Thank you, my friend.
00:32:23.920 I love your show.
00:32:24.800 We listen to it every day.
00:32:25.620 Thanks so much.
00:32:27.100 John Solomon, founder and editor-in-chief of Just the News and Great American.
00:32:32.040 Joining us here tomorrow on The Great America Show will be China expert Gordon Chang and the president of the London Center for Policy Research, Colonel Tony Schaefer.
00:32:42.840 We hope you'll join us.
00:32:44.340 Until then, thanks for being with us.
00:32:46.440 God bless you.