DOBBS SAYS BRAGG’S INDICTMENT OF PRES TRUMP MEANS WE’RE NO LONGER A NATION OF LAWS： MARXISTS NOW HAVE CONTROL OF OUR GOVERNMENT
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On today's show, Congressman Barry Loudermilk of Georgia joins me to talk about the January 6th investigation, the Democratic Party's attempt to smear and smear Donald Trump, and the deep state conspiracy to bring him to trial.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is The Great America Show. Welcome, and it's great to
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have you with us today. These are, without doubt, times that try our souls. We know ours is a
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federal government that is corrupt, corrupt through and through. We know the Marxist Dems
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are simply evil. Seven years of political persecution of Donald Trump, with no evidence
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produced of wrongdoing of any kind whatsoever, is a monstrous outrage, a national disgrace.
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The Soros-supported Manhattan DA is no better than the violent thugs that he quickly puts back on the
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streets of New York without prosecution. District Attorney Alvin Bragg downgraded more than half of
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his felony cases and then lost half of those cases in court. Bragg is not only soft on crime,
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he's not much of a prosecutor. He's out and out, either corrupt or inept or a toxic combination of
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the two. Bragg isn't any worse, though, frankly, than the federal prosecutors and the corrupt
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Department of Justice. The persecution of Donald Trump has taught us much about our deep state-run
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government and the Marxist Dem Party. We do know a few things now we otherwise would have only suspected.
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The FBI, the DOJ, and intel community conspired with the Marxist Dems of the Clinton campaign
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and Democratic National Committee to smear and frame Donald Trump, both as a candidate
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and then as president. We know they then tried to overthrow his presidency with the same lies.
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We don't know but strongly suspect that the Marxist Dems and deep state had at least the implicit go-ahead
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from a number of the rhino GOP leaders. Whether the years-long persecution of Donald Trump or the
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Marxist Dems' totalitarian treatment of their January 6th political prisoners, there can be no doubt that
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the United States in this moment is more threatened from within than from any foreign enemy. Our guest
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today knows the reality of what we face. Our guest is Congressman Barry Loudermilk of Georgia. By the way,
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he was a target of the January 6th committee. The J6 committee members knowingly lied about the
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congressman. They claimed at one point the congressman was doing reconnaissance the day before
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January 6th when the congressman was hosting a group of mainly friends and others and showing them
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around the Capitol. Congressman Loudermilk had to defend himself and fought against the false charges
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of the lying Marxist Dems on the lying J6 committee. And he prevailed. Congressman Loudermilk knows what
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it's like to see our government declare war on our citizens and our constitutions. And just at the end
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of last month, Congressman Loudermilk stood with some of his constituents in Smyrna, Georgia, when the ATF
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sent in agents from all over the country trying to intimidate the owners of what is the world's
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largest gun store. Congressman, welcome. You've been in the fight big time and I want you to know I
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appreciate what you're doing for the country. It's good to have you with us and let's start with the
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January 6th investigation. Matthew Graves, the U.S. attorney announcing 700 to 1200 more Americans
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are potential defendants of the January 6th charges by the politically corrupt Justice Department.
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Your reaction? Well, you know, these things are coming so quickly it's hard to tell. And
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I am amazed that there are still that many more people that they are, you know, pressing charges on.
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And so we'll be looking in the direction of, of course, that is not under the jurisdiction of my
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committee. That's a, uh, uh, uh, Jim Jordan's got the judiciary and Jamie Comer has, uh, the D.C.
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uh, oversight, which, uh, includes the, the, the jail here in D.C. But we are working together in all
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this. My jurisdiction is over the Capitol Capitol Police and the January 6th committee. But we are
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working together to make sure that, um, we provide the defense for every, every case. And, you know,
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that they have the right to receive all the information. And so, uh, I have custody of
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the 44,000 hours of video. And so we're making sure that the defense attorneys have the ability
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to view it. Now, what you've got to understand is when, uh, when those that have already gone
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through trial are going through trial now, their defense was told there was only 14,000 hours of
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video. When we took custody of it, we found out that's not the case. There's 44,000 hours of video.
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And now we're, we're able to release a lot of that. And we're, uh, also allowing these
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attorneys to come in and view this additional footage because there may be evidence in there
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that would exonerate, uh, their client or at least show, look, they, in this particular case,
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this client wasn't violent, um, or they didn't actually get into the Capitol. So, uh, that's how
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we're working together with the other committees and, uh, and, and to make sure that all the evidence is made available.
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It's, it is, let me say as a, as a broadcaster for a good part of my life, I fully appreciate how much
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44,000 hours of video represents and time, uh, the ability to edit, to manage it, uh, to, uh, do what
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you will with it. That is a monumental task. Who is in charge of that? Where is the centralized
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location of that video and who has chain of custody control over it?
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So the videos are actually, I actually have the custody of access to it. So it's actually tying
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into the Capitol police, uh, archive of, of video from those days. And so we have terminals set up
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that, uh, that, uh, when an attorney or, uh, somebody, uh, another member of Congress wants
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access to go look up something that they're, they're investigating. Then we, uh, we have them
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in a location here near the Capitol that we'll take them and they, uh, you know, with 44,000 hours,
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you said how overwhelming that is. Well, if you sat down and you watch the videos for, uh, 24 hours a day,
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um, it would take you about 15 years, uh, to go through all that video. So you're talking like
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11, 1200 different cameras at different locations around the Capitol complex. So we will go in and
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show them how, how you work it, how you find, you kind of got to know the area and we'll help them get
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to the cameras and then just let them review it. Um, and then because the way it's system, the system
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is set up, you're just looking at, uh, the actual archives within the Capitol police system.
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There's no way of recording it, et cetera. If there is a clip that they need, then we set it up for
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them to be able to receive, uh, that clip or those clips. The only restriction is there are some
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sensitive areas in the Capitol that, um, uh, you look, you, you don't want Al Qaeda or China to know
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where certain areas, uh, you know, escape routes or, or secured areas in the Capitol are. So we know
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where those areas are. And if there happens to be a camera there, we just run it by the
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Capitol police to make sure it isn't exposed. And that's something that January six committee didn't
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do. Uh, but we're doing just to make sure that, you know, we, we don't expose something we don't
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have to. And so far there's been, uh, only one video that even had an area that was a concern, but,
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uh, we worked to just walk that part out and it's been fine. So the Capitol police have been working
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very cooperatively with us on those things. So with that in mind, the defense attorneys
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who desperately need to get the video that shows whatever their client, wherever they were present,
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whatever they were doing is, is there a way in which to expedite that, to get that video out to
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them? Because what many Americans don't know is that video has been hit withheld from a defense
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attorneys and their clients over the course of the past two years. And by the way, consciously,
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and intentionally so. Yeah, it has. And that's why we, uh, we, we, we've prioritized access to these.
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And it, there are attorneys coming in. I mean, we've already had them in and looking,
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so it's not just something we're projecting it's happening now. And as soon as the speaker said,
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we're going to make these available, we make it available to the media. We're going to make it
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available to defense attorneys. Um, and, and we set up protocols just, uh, of how to get them in,
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uh, you know, who to contact. And so they'll come over and spend as much time as they need,
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uh, getting the, the videos, we show them how to do it. So it's, it's actually happening at this point.
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And, uh, you know, there were some that was, that were released a few weeks ago. And, uh,
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I think that from what I'm hearing, and, uh, I've had, I've read some articles since that
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this could have an impact, uh, on the, uh, the January six shaman, you know, the guy who was,
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you know, where the Buffalo head, um, it, it, it may have an impact on his case because, uh, even,
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even Jonathan Turley, the constitutional attorney, uh, wrote an article after that saying it would
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definitely had an effect on his sentencing because it showed the opposite of what the prosecution was
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trying to show that he was violent. This showed the exact opposite. And that's the problem when
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you withhold this stuff is they, they, they aren't getting a fair trial. Yeah. They're not getting a
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fair trial. They went after that man. They railroaded him. Uh, and every one of the, every one of the
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prosecutors involved with that case should be put on trial. Uh, that was an outrage. It was a despicable
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lie. Congressman Latimer, it's just, it's unthinkable. Uh, you mentioned that the shaman case,
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but we haven't seen any video since I haven't seen any video since what's happened.
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Well, we've offered the media to come in and, uh, they, they can get through the same process that
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Fox news did. And, uh, that's actually being run through the speaker's office. And I don't know
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that any more media has, has come in and got the video. Now, the attorneys that come in, a lot of
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them, they're not going to go out and, uh, from talking to, to some of the folks associated with
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them, they're probably not going to go out there and publish those videos yet because they don't want
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to jeopardize their case for their, their client. Right. Um, but you'll be seeing more and more as we go
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through it. And if we uncover more January 6 report, which we already saw this week is, is it would be
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kind to say it's flawed. It was more from what I've seen so far. We've only scratched the surface of it
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because we've got, uh, about 2 million pages of printed documentation. Terabytes of data and 44,000
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hours of video to go through. We barely scratched the surface with a case that involved me, a false
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accusation that I gave reconnaissance tours the day before. Um, and, and we can, we were able to
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show that with the evidence that the January 6 committee had evidence that I obtained that they
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knew before they made the accusation that it was a false allegation, that it was totally false. There
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was nothing to it. There were no reconnaissance tours. The people that came to visit my office
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didn't even get close to the Capitol on January 6, but they, but they didn't, they want, so wanted to
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create a political narrative that they were going to alter this evidence to make it fit their story. And
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that's what we exposed yesterday that they, they just took, they cherry picked what they wanted the
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American people to see. So going from this point forward, well, that's what we're looking for. We're
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looking at their evidence. I'm taking this thing from a purely objective standpoint, just where the
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evidence leads. And the evidence is showing us that the report, at least so far that they put out
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there is it's nothing but a, a novel. They're a disgrace. And, uh, that, that committee is going
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to go down in history as to what it should be remembered as, uh, an offense against, uh, everything
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that America stands for. I want to say you stand for everything that is good about America. Uh,
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and I want to compliment you, uh, because what you did for one of your constituents, uh, when the ATF
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showed up with 16, 16 agents from out of state to intimidate, uh, the owners, uh, and the employees
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of the, uh, the, I guess it's the largest gun shop in Georgia, uh, uh, it's outdoor adventures. Uh,
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you stood there and, uh, we're certain to, to make sure you were there for your constituents. And I
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just want to applaud you. The fact that you brought along several other congressmen with you, uh, I
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just, uh, I think that is the way this country is supposed to work. And I just want to salute you. And I
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want to tell the ATF, don't be political pawns guys. You're better than that. Uh, step up and get
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out of the way of these political thugs that you work for right now in the Biden regime. Uh,
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your thoughts, Congressman. Yeah. And you know, this is really what I think, uh, being a representative
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of the people really means part of our role. Our constitutional role is oversight of the federal
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government and federal agencies. When I got a call by my friend, uh, Eric, uh, owner of, uh,
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him and his dad are owners of, uh, Adventure Outdoors. Uh, he called me over the weekend.
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He said, look, we've been through this before, but never, uh, to this level. This is very unprecedented
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that 16 ATF inspectors are descending on our store on Monday to do a complete full surprise audit. And,
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and so I asked him one more. I said, so what is unprecedented? He said, the number to start with,
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um, is 16. The most we've ever had before was eight. And he said, and that they're all coming
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from out of state because there's, uh, about 20 inspectors in Georgia. So they're bringing 16 from
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out of state. He said, this is highly unusual. And we know what's going on in the Biden administration.
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You buy firearms like I do. You fill out the background check form, the 4473. And, uh, so they
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have to keep those on file. And so the ATF will come in and they'll review those. Now, the law says
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that the ATF cannot hold against you a clerical error. Clerical error being somebody transcribed a,
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uh, a number wrong. Instead of a one nine, they put nine one. That's a clerical error. Or the date at
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the signature block is wrong. They are not to use that as justification, uh, to take your license.
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What they're supposed to be looking for are illegal gun cells. But the Biden administration
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has adopted this zero tolerance policy to where they're actually revoking, uh, federal firearms
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licenses, uh, because of these clerical errors. Now, uh, when you've got approximately 15,000 of these
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documents that they have right now, you know, there's going to be a clerical error. So that was
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our concern. And so as part of oversight, I said, you know, instead of just writing a letter to the
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ATF, how about if I show up and be there, uh, when the inspectors are there and just say, hey, look,
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I'm, I'm doing part of my job as an oversight, because a lot of times oversight, we see that as
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we have a prescripted hearing here in Washington, D.C. where we bring in, you know, the director of
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an agency who's only going to be, he's going to be told what to say by his attorneys. But if you're
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in the field, you're going to see the way that things really happen. And I thought, well, there's
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16 inspectors and only one of me. Let me go ahead and call some of my other Georgia colleagues from
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Congress to go with me. And four of us ended up showing up. And, uh, we just want the ATF to know.
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No, it was, uh, Rich McCormick, um, and Mike Collins, both, uh, new members of Congress.
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And, uh, you may have heard of her Marjorie Taylor Greene. I'm not sure, but you know,
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she came as well. So, um, MTG. Yeah. Yeah. MTG was there with us too. And it was just there to
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let them know, Hey, we're not here to interfere with the work you're doing, but we are very interested,
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not only the work you're doing to make sure it's done according to the law. And I told them that,
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um, what was the reaction of those ATF agents? And I assume they had a supervisor or two with them.
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What was their reaction when you showed up? Well, there was, there was a chief inspector
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that was there and, uh, the, the other 15, and they didn't know we were going to be there. We got
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there early. We were sitting in the conference room, just meeting and talking about, you know,
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kind of getting a briefing about what, how these things go and all this. And so when they came,
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they assembled in another meeting area. And so, uh, Eric took us on the way there. He said,
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Hi, I've just told them there's some local people here that want to meet them. So they're waiting to
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greet you. And so when we walked in and I said, hi, I'm Congressman Barry Loudermilk, you could hear
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a pin drop. And immediately one of the inspectors pick up the phone and frantically started calling.
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And I was like, that's gotta be the lead inspector there. Um, pretty quickly, uh, they were, she
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informed us that they weren't allowed to answer any of our questions. And, and, uh, so I continued
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to tell them what we were doing and some of the others tried to ask questions. Well, when she got on
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the phone, uh, representative Rich McCorvey just said, Hey, where are you guys from? And they went down the
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line telling us where they were from mostly all large, very liberal cities like Boston, Los Angeles,
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San Francisco, New York, Chicago. They were from all cities like that. When we've got 20 inspectors
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in Georgia, why do you bring folks from these liberal cities into Georgia to do a routine inspection?
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Um, who know nothing after a while, who knew nothing about the store that is typically audited by the,
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by the Atlanta base folks in the ATF. I mean, that is where they have relations with, that they work
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with regularly. Yeah. And so, um, we, I said, look, we, we knew we weren't getting anything else. I said,
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we'll let you guys go back to get back to work. And, uh, we went up in the conference room, uh, Eric came back
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up, uh, uh, about 15 minutes later. He said, they all left. They all grabbed their stuff and left.
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I'm so they're going to be back. They're just waiting because all of us were on our way to the
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airport to fly up to DC. So we had just taken some time. I said, they know we're going to be in DC.
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They're going to wait. Um, they eventually did come back while we were still there, but they did bring
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their public information officer to meet with us. And, uh, I informed him, I said, you, you, this is
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what's happening across the country. And amazingly, he didn't deny it. I said, we're just here to make sure
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that that doesn't happen here. And, uh, so, uh, last I heard talking, uh, with, uh, Eric today is that
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they are still there. They're working. They expect that they'll be there through, uh, uh, through the
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end of the week. But ironically, uh, Ron DeSantis is going to be at the store tomorrow. So, um,
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uh, we've wondered if there were some coincidence there. So let's, uh, well, let's hope, you know,
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good on governor DeSantis for being there, but I have to say that, uh, it's good for you. The,
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the delegation from Georgia to be there for your constituent. Uh, this should, I wish that every
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congressman and woman in the country would do this for their clients and particularly where the ATF with
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the second amendment, uh, right now under assault, by the way, the president of the United States
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himself was saying, uh, that he wanted this, you know, I think you're talking about clerical errors.
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If one thing is out of shape, I think he said, uh, you know, that's it, get their license or something
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to that effect. I mean, Biden is out of his mind. He's a, he's a typical Marxist thug, uh, with a big
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grin, uh, and the federal government. Yeah. I mean, what, you know, these inspectors,
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make mistakes. Are they held accountable for their mistakes? No, we need accountability across
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the board. And that's where Congress comes in. We're the accountability to these agencies.
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Well, and, and you're animated and energized and that is great. And the fact that that, uh, first,
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that chief inspector of that group, uh, his first reflex was to get on the phone to Washington.
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Uh, you know, that really says a lot because right now the American people are scared to death
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of their government. Uh, a lot of people won't admit it, but they are, uh, the American people
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have been intimidated. They January 6th showed them what their, what happens when their government
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turns against them, the weaponization of the federal government. Thank God that you guys won
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the control of the house so that there would be a weaponization committee under, uh, Jim Jordan,
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the chairman of the judiciary committee, because this thing has got to get not only aired out,
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but I mean, we got to wash this thing down, uh, after we throw these fools out of, out of office.
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This is a war between the, between good and evil. It's a war between Republicans and, uh,
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and Democrats, uh, across the board. This is a government that hates us and no one should
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misunderstand it. No one should, uh, in any way, uh, sugarcoat it. Your government hates you and they
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prove it every damn day. Uh, Congressman, we always give our guests the last word and
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your concluding thoughts, if you will. Uh, you know what? I'm going to quote Thomas Jefferson
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as a concluding thought who said, when the people fear the government, there's tyranny. When the
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government through the people, there's Liberty. That's a great. And that's what we need to restore
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is that the government works for us and is accountable to us. Well, for that moment, uh,
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in Smyrna, Georgia, when, uh, you walked in and, uh, you could hear a pin drop, as you put it,
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I think Thomas Jefferson's, uh, description of democracy, uh, was in, in action. And I want to
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thank you for making that moment possible. We appreciate it. Well, thank you, Luke. All right.
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Thank you for all you do, Congressman. Congressman Loudermilk, uh, doing a great job for the people
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of Georgia and for the American people. We appreciate and God bless. All right. God bless
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you. And thank you. Congressman Barry Loudermilk, a great American. And here tomorrow, our weekly talk
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about the surveillance state that America has become. We'll be talking with former NSA intelligence
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analyst and whistleblower, Russ Tice. And as Marcus Aurelius said, never more appropriately in this age
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of disinformation and propaganda, he said, everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Good to remember.
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Sounds about right. Doesn't it? Please join us here tomorrow when we take up the latest on the
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surveillance state and the government that must be feared till then. Thanks. God bless you. And God bless