The China Virus Pandemic has now claimed more than a million American lives, but there is some good news as well. Bad news: Science doesn t seem to care, Dr. Fauci is hyping an upswing in the pandemic and moderating our relief, and now we are joined by Dr. Robert Malone, a physician, biochemist, and one of the inventors of M.O.D., and a man who has bravely asserted his views, even when they ran counter to medical and big pharma orthodoxy.
00:00:00.000Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Show and delighted to have you with us.
00:00:06.580What a week we've had our puppet president deciding to tell teachers that our students are their children when they're in their classrooms.
00:00:15.360That didn't go over well with parents, to say the least.
00:00:19.040Someone leaked a draft opinion from the Supreme Court striking down Roe v. Wade,
00:00:24.980apparently trying to put public pressure on at least one of the five justices to change their vote.
00:00:31.380Or maybe, just maybe, someone ordered that draft ruling to be released to Politico,
00:00:38.380with the same objective, of course, but who knows?
00:00:42.160Liberals and leftists of all kinds immediately went into Marxist mob mode,
00:00:47.260demonstrating, protesting, yelling, screaming, having a late-night fit on the streets of Washington, D.C.,
00:12:25.680Now, we found out that there have been terrible misjudgments, and I'm going to be generous here and call them misjudgments,
00:12:32.700on the part of the federal public health agencies in particular.
00:12:38.600When we get to the states, then there is a whole other area of inquiry that should be held about what in the world were they doing during the height, the peak.
00:12:49.060Because, as you know, it goes all the way down to school boards.
00:13:02.860Yeah, and are voicing the unvoiceable, that being not buying into the approved narrative endorsed by the teachers' union.
00:13:15.020These teachers' unions keep coming up on almost every area, whether it's left-wing indoctrination and critical race theory, ESG, the Marxist-left Democratic Party,
00:13:29.420as it finds expression in the Federated Teachers Association and the NEA, is overwhelming here.
00:13:38.800It is overwhelming judgment and common sense and, by the way, tradition and what is law in our society, a federalist system of government that gives local government great authority and the local community great authority over their school districts.
00:13:59.880It is – we are witnessing, for want of a better expression, an absolute takeover by the radical Marxist left in this country in the guise of Democrats and their agenda.
00:14:36.040But I'm wary of labeling these people only using the term Marxist because my sense is there may be other drivers here in terms of the behavior.
00:14:50.920And that – and I'm not sure that we're not dealing with something that has more complicated roots, not the least of which is arrogance.
00:15:08.840That these are people that may truly believe that they need to pursue these agendas.
00:15:18.840I put out a piece that you may or may not have seen, Lou, the other day.
00:15:23.820I don't think we discussed it in our prior discussion.
00:15:27.440The logic that we are, in part, experiencing the consequences of generations of helicopter parents that have sheltered their children so much that now those children have grown up.
00:15:44.420And, of course, many of them are teachers.
00:15:48.580I'm sure that I was fortunate to have many brilliant teachers that I learned so much from back in the day.
00:15:55.860But the truth is that those that go into the teaching profession in our universities are often not the creme de la creme.
00:16:06.100And so we – you know, it's been pointed out to me that many of these teachers these days, they're mathematically challenged.
00:16:14.160They're really not powered in many cases to be able to handle robust discussion and dissent.
00:16:23.840And we have these bizarre practices that have been enforced in part due to federal law and programs through Department of Education that do strange things like rank schools for whether or not they have a large or small differential between the upper and lower echelons in the educational achievement of their students.
00:16:53.140Which apparently, I'm told, in California has resulted in a situation where many school districts have dropped their gifted and talented programs because of the criticism that they are further accentuating the difference between the lowest-performing students and the highest-performing students in a school or a school system.
00:17:18.040So it evokes the – I don't know if you remember the Vonnegut story that the dystopic future in which everybody has to be equal, that it's not equal in terms of opportunity but equal in terms of outcome.
00:17:36.440That's kind of what our culture has been driven towards, is the idea that the outcomes should be equal.
00:17:45.160And that all of these highly sheltered young adults have the right to be protected from any ideas, thoughts, or comments, which would cause them emotional discomfort.
00:18:04.080And I think that's part of what's driving – I think that may be part of what's driving this bizarre behavior that we're observing in a lot of the establishment in the education profession.
00:18:41.520And by the way, I use Marxist just to get everyone's attention and dismiss this business about socialism because we've moved way beyond socialism in this country.
00:18:52.680We've moved to an authoritarianism that has its roots in Marxist theory of thought, whether it's the assault on individualism, whether it's the assault on the American family, whether it is the –
00:19:09.220And it is a belief system that is, as you describe, where we look to public education, where we used to have a meritocracy and a great equalizer for our society.
00:19:21.760We're now talking about things like equity and critical race theory, and that is subversive of meritocracy and high-level performance.
00:19:37.180If I could put it in my own words, I think what you're saying is that once upon a time, because those who identified as female gender – we'll put it that way.
00:19:50.780How about – had few employment options, the society on the whole was able to obtain the value of the most intelligent, highest performing women at a deep discount,
00:20:18.020because they didn't pay their teachers very much, but they didn't have anything else that they could get a job in professionally or very little.
00:20:27.400And so basically, the system that existed subsidized the education of our children on the backs of women who didn't have any other employment opportunity.
00:20:41.240What we're saying, and I'll say it even more concretely, women were the heart of public education.
00:20:50.880They were the brightest people, in my experience – I can't confirm this with an empirical study – but in my experience growing up, from the moment I hit kindergarten to the time I left high school,
00:21:04.720my teachers were – my teachers were the best teachers were all women, the very best.
00:21:10.420Those who demanded excellence, demanded the most of their students were – and who brought the most energy and inspired students were all women.
00:21:22.080And I've often thought, what my children missed, my grandchildren are missing now, because of the absence of those female teachers who were so amazing.
00:21:36.080And I'm not putting down male teachers, for crying out loud.
00:21:39.320Because they've gone on – instead, they're CEOs and heads of hedge funds and everything else, right?
00:21:48.840We have unions running schools instead of parents and citizens and local communities and towns and cities running schools.
00:21:59.280And as the old expression about war, war is too important to leave to just the generals.
00:22:05.800We have to have a community that is engaged, participatory, and, in my judgment, determinate about what is happening, both in setting social and ethical and moral standards, standards of conduct,
00:22:21.840but also in making sure that our students are getting their money's worth.
00:22:28.860And the public school, the average cost is over $17,000 per public school student.
00:22:35.820And we're not getting our money's worth.
00:23:27.820And what I'm finding is, you know, I've been traveling around quite a bit and working with various groups.
00:23:35.220And what I'm seeing again and again and again is the wealthy are absolutely adamant about homeschooling their kids and, you know, during the grade school period.
00:23:50.700And, of course, then they go off to the elite colleges, et cetera, because that's what they can afford it.
00:23:56.240But what this suggests is that we're going to see further disparities in separation based on economic status because the average person doesn't have the cash to or that, you know, has to work where both parents have to work.
00:24:19.660So one of them can't stay home and tutor their children are forced into this bizarre landscape of socially engineered schools that have objectives.
00:24:34.860You know, it's the same thing as what's going on with stakeholder capitalism.
00:24:40.740If you think about it, it's that the belief that excellence is secondary to social engineering interests, agendas.
00:24:55.580Everyone should be egalitarian in America.
00:25:13.580You won't have a competitive society, a competitive educational system that produces excellence and innovation and a future that is the birthright of every American, the opportunity to do better than your parents, to have a better life.
00:25:33.780We have reached a point where we're creating exactly the inverse result.
00:25:38.100And when we talk about, and I want to bring us back to medicine, we have brilliant doctors, but they are now suffocating under an orthodoxy and a bureaucracy, whether it be governmental or created by their own profession and the AMA and whatever the other professional associations you want to name, in which we have doctors saying,
00:26:04.440I can't talk to you honestly, here in America, because I might lose my job, I might be shunned, banned from the Klan.
00:26:14.680It's horrific to think that's the world that we are constructing here.
00:26:20.420Yeah, so I mean, let's call it what it is, this world of propaganda and censorship, which has become rampant.
00:26:35.640It just ratchets up on an almost daily basis.
00:26:39.980And now we have this ministry of propaganda, essentially of truth, run by the Department of Homeland Security.
00:26:46.900And I read a quote the other day from a government bureaucrat that paraphrased was,
00:26:57.020we can't allow them to control the information.
00:27:01.580We have to completely control the information and the message.
00:27:05.360This is the self-image that our government has, apparently our government bureaucrats have,
00:27:12.540is that they have to completely control information message, which is to say they have to control thought.
00:31:06.420His sins and really crimes against humanity remain without any consequences.
00:31:16.920And he is, as we saw, he believes he's above the law.
00:31:23.200And not only him, but the other major leaders in the health and human services also are above the law,
00:31:31.260above the judicial system, should not be held accountable.
00:31:34.500That is inverse totalitarianism, where you end up with the bureaucrats calling the shots.
00:31:40.860And it's important to remember that a lot of this bureaucrat caste, Lou, you're old enough.
00:31:48.280Do you remember the nickname they had for the docs, the young people that went into NIH and the health and human services system in the 60s?
00:32:01.500Do you remember what they were called?
00:32:03.560They were called the Yellow Berets because they were all draft dodgers.
00:32:09.100And those are the folks that currently are the elite that run the overall HHS empire.
00:32:16.860And they did come out of, you know, you mentioned these words like Marxism, that that intellectual tradition, let's say, was rich among those then students who were seeking to avoid service to their country by opting out and going to the public health service.
00:32:39.880You know, I think I understand your reasoning, but I think Fauci is actually a distant factor now.
00:32:49.840I think he was at one time much of what you're describing.
00:32:53.860As a matter of fact, I know he was because his voice was solo and it was final on many of these judgments, or at least so it appeared.
00:33:03.000But what I'm talking about, when I talk about Marxism is the roots of everything that is happening.
00:33:09.320I don't think for a moment Fauci ever said a word that he wasn't told to say.
00:33:13.640And I think that there was a great congruence of public health policy and Fauci pronouncements that originated in political advantage for the Biden administration.
00:33:27.920So, uh, I do think, uh, I'm completely convinced that, uh, the elite in the democratic party, uh, have been captured by, um, forces, which are not, uh, focused and loyal to the constitution.
00:33:51.640And, uh, and, uh, and what I find again and again and again, as I investigate more about the world economic forum and what they represent, uh, and their history is, I see, uh, this deep involvement, uh, in a significant way, um, beginning with, uh, William Clinton.
00:34:18.020And, uh, absolutely extending through Barack Obama, um, to, uh, the current administration, which, you know, I hesitate to call it the Biden administration.
00:34:31.920I don't know who the puppet master is, but, uh, he doesn't have the intellectual capacity to manage much right now.
00:34:38.240So, uh, there, uh, there, there, there does seem, and then, and then when I see Mr. Obama making these statements that are pro censorship, that are completely aligned with the messaging coming out of the world economic forum, uh, I, I have to conclude that, um, it's certainly, uh, consistent with the hypothesis.
00:35:04.440That, that, that this group that has, uh, is currently controlling the democratic party and influencing in every dimension to the extent that they can, what people are allowed to think and how they're to think and what information they're to have access to.
00:35:24.540It appears to be, um, uh, uh, representing the interests of, uh, this cabal, this trade organization of the thousand largest companies in the world that we call the world economic forum.
00:35:40.780There's there, there are two completely aligned.
00:35:43.480And I was just investigating the series of events that happened around the 08 financial crisis, which has always confused me why the Obama response to that was so pro bank, uh, and so counterintuitive in terms of the middle class of the United States.
00:36:05.080I mean, it decimated me, uh, in, you know, when my property went, uh, in the tank in Georgia, um, and never recovered in, in it, it decimated many of us, but the banks came out, uh, smelling like a rose.
00:36:20.660And, and, and then as I'm investigating the, uh, uh, actions at the WEF around that time, I see Obama very actively engaged with the banking system to support their interests, which is essentially what the WEF represents, um, is these large, uh, global transnational, uh, banks and, in, in investment funds.
00:36:47.600So I, I, I, I, I mean, I'm, I do think that the, uh, democratic party as it exists now, uh, has been completely hijacked and those who, and you hear it again and again and again, um, I do on the road, I hear it from the docs, uh, you know, I used to be a Democrat.
00:37:15.400There's no way I'd ever vote for them again, after what I've seen, uh, you know, the, another phrase you hear is the Democrat.
00:37:23.760They left me, uh, you see the graphic that Elon Musk, uh, made a little cartoon about himself, where, uh, he shows himself on the political spectrum, starting off center left a few years ago.
00:37:38.960And then gradually, uh, and then gradually, uh, migrating, uh, migrating to center right to mid-right as the center has shifted, uh, consequent to the woke left.
00:37:49.960Uh, I, I think that there's, that, that we do have, um, something deeply wrong going on in that political party.
00:38:00.900It doesn't seem to be, uh, reflecting the interests of, uh, it doesn't seem to be committed to the fundamental constitutional principles.
00:38:10.200They, they seem to have bought into this idea that, um, nationalism is obsolete and that, uh, we should migrate to a, uh, a worldwide government structure that, um, represents largely, uh, as the predominant driver, the economic interests of the thousand largest companies.
00:38:37.020And government is subsidiary, and government is subsidiary, should be subsidiary to the interests of these very large corporations, which is the definition of fascism.
00:38:48.260Yeah, it is the definition of fascism, uh, a form of totalitarianism.
00:38:54.020And what one can, you know, whatever one wants to use as a label here, or a belief structure, a political belief structure, uh, it, it, it doesn't come out well.
00:39:06.500For the American people, uh, because the orthodoxies, the, uh, the shifts here in political thought and preference is overwhelming.
00:39:19.540And again, going back to the COVID vaccine, this, your statement that children don't need vaccination, but there is a, there is a silence, uh, an acquiescence to it all from your profession.
00:39:34.360And, and, and, and an acceptance, by the way, of the FDA and, and government, because they're aligned politically and this, you know, we suddenly, it seems to me, we have a woke academic profession.
00:39:48.760We have woke government, woke politics, uh, woke, uh, you know, uh, now woke, uh, woke medical profession.
00:40:00.420It's deeply disturbing and a, and it bodes ill for the future of the country.
00:40:06.620Uh, and, and with that, I'm going to ask you to, you know, give us your, your concluding thoughts here.
00:40:11.520Uh, it's been fascinating talking with you and, uh, we always want our guests to have the last word.
00:40:17.620So as you, as long as you wish, how about it, Robert?
00:40:22.220You know, you know, I always try to close on a silver lining and give people hope.
00:40:27.980Um, but on, on this topic, um, I want to riff off of what you just said.
00:40:34.440Um, in, in everything I've seen and been taught in my experience in life has been that if you create barriers to innovation and to, uh, free exchange of ideas,
00:40:55.200And the longer you do it, the worst an imbalance gets any imbalance, an imbalance in industry, in practices, in fuel use, whatever the thing is.
00:41:07.660If you refuse to confront the problem, I mean, to put it simply, you know, in a way that everybody, you know, this is kind of kitchen table speak.
00:41:16.740If, if, if you've got a stack of bills and you refuse to deal with them and they keep coming in, it just makes the matter worse.
00:41:24.820And, uh, anytime you refuse to allow discussion, debate, um, and a healthy exchange of ideas, it results in a, uh, in, in a, in a bad situation getting worse and worse to be simple about it, um, straightforward about it.
00:41:47.120And, uh, what this means is that as, as we face the challenge of, uh, Chinese aggression and we face the challenge of, uh, a globalist worldview emerging,
00:42:03.680as we face the challenge of, uh, uh, uh, coming to grips with the, uh, enormous growth in power and, and wealth inequity that has occurred over the last decade and a half,
00:42:19.700in particular since the, um, um, 2008, uh, events, uh, if we can't talk about all these things, just like what's happened with this outbreak,
00:42:31.380if we can't really talk about things, then we end up making mistake after mistake after mistake, and we can't react to it.
00:42:41.600And it just creates a situation where things get worse and worse.
00:42:45.040And that's, that's why, I mean, come on guys, this country was founded on free speech.
00:42:52.560It was founded on the fundamental principle that this dynamic exchange of ideas, this rough and tumble world of differences of opinion is the best solution for trying to get to a, a better society,
00:43:09.720a better way of, a better way of, of existing in the world and also to advance innovation and technology.
00:43:17.420Uh, so that's, I think, uh, my, the, perhaps over the last few weeks, the thing that has rang my bells the most was Matthias Desmet pointing out to me that only 10% of people really want to be free.
00:43:38.640It's tough taking responsibility for your actions.
00:43:42.500It's tough, um, having to think about everything you do and not just do what you're told.
00:43:48.960And most people apparently want to live in a world in which, uh, big brother and big sister in the form of this new, uh, um, government obscenity, uh, this ministry of truth, um, is telling them what to do and what to think.
00:44:08.780Fortunately, there's 10% that aren't, and those of us that want to live free, uh, if we're going to have to fight for it, because, uh, there's a whole group of people that would like to just jam their own version of the world down our throats.
00:44:25.540And, um, I, I, you know, we use terms like stand up or wake up or whatever, but, but I think we do have to come to terms with the fact there's only about 10% of us that really want to take the responsibility to be free and, and have a passion for it.
00:44:44.320And we better fight for that right, or, um, it's, it's about to disappear.
00:44:50.700And with all of the weaponry and tools of information control and big tech that they can deploy against us now.
00:44:59.040So I'm sorry not to be leaving on a happy note, except to say, um, you know, join us, uh, whether or not you're vaxxed or unvaxxed or what your opinions are about this pandemic.
00:45:13.560And how it's been managed, uh, now is not the time to hide behind, um, your short-term economic interests.
00:45:24.180Uh, now is the time to stand up, uh, and, and speak the truth and, uh, stand up for what you really believe, if not for yourself, then for your children, please.
00:45:39.640So that's, I guess that's my conclusion is for those of us that are in the 10% and I suspect it's an enriched group in your broadcast, uh, let's just get on the stick.
00:45:54.040When do you release your findings, doctor?
00:46:41.160Thanks everybody for being with us and please join us here tomorrow.
00:46:45.120Our guest will be a young man who's running for the U S Congress in the great state of Minnesota in the heavily Democrat fifth congressional district in the heart of deep blue Minneapolis.
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