The Great America Show - DR. MALONE SAYS NO EVIDENCE OF A COVID SURGE

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. Truth, justice, and the American way. Day two of confirmation hearings for Judge

00:00:07.660 Ketanji Brown-Jackson. Senator Ted Cruz questioned her on critical race theory,

00:00:13.900 and the judge equivocated, saying she's never studied it. She also couldn't quite remember

00:00:20.180 the 1857 Supreme Court case Dred Scott that ruled people of African descent weren't citizens.

00:00:27.980 The 14th Amendment overturned that case three years after the Civil War. More American troops

00:00:35.820 may be headed to Europe as Russia's war on Ukraine is now on its 27th day to reinforce our troops

00:00:43.360 already positioned on Europe's so-called eastern flank, that is, the Baltic states, Romania, Hungary,

00:00:50.340 Slovakia, the Czech Republic, and Bulgaria. The Ukrainians have defended their nation with valor

00:00:56.500 and grit. Most military analysts had expected the Russians to make quick work of their invasion

00:01:03.480 a few days, a week at most, to take over the country. Instead, the Ukrainians have stalemated

00:01:09.980 the Russians, and there are reports the stalled Russian army has food for only another few days

00:01:16.460 to a week, and the Ukrainians are also in dire need of food and water and medicine as well.

00:01:22.500 The number of casualties is rising on both sides of Russia's war on Ukraine.

00:01:29.240 This is The Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs, and thanks for being with us.

00:01:34.480 President Biden apparently had permission to go public with the Globalist Elites New World Order

00:01:40.640 Initiative, and here he is, talking to the Business Roundtable, a group of the most powerful

00:01:46.920 U.S. multinational corporations.

00:01:50.400 We are at an inflection point, I believe, in the world economy, not just the world economy,

00:01:55.900 in the world. It occurs every three or four generations. As one of the top military people

00:02:03.300 said to me in a secure meeting the other day, 60 million people died between 1900 and 1946,

00:02:10.780 and since then we established a liberal world order, and that hadn't happened in a long while. A lot of

00:02:18.160 people died, but nowhere near the chaos. And now is a time when things are shifting. There's going to be

00:02:24.260 a new world order out there, and we've got to lead it, and we've got to unite the rest of the free world

00:02:29.380 in doing it.

00:02:30.260 Mr. Biden getting ready to leave Washington to attend this week's NATO Summit in Brussels,

00:02:35.480 but it appears his press secretary won't be going with him. Jen Psaki has tested positive for COVID

00:02:42.560 for a second time in five months. Psaki says she's fully immunized, which minimized her symptoms,

00:02:50.700 she says, and kept her out of the hospital. Dr. Fauci's back out in front of TV cameras with his

00:02:57.320 usual message, be afraid and obey your government, because unelected bureaucrats, of course, know what's

00:03:04.260 best. Nearly a million Americans have died over the two years of this pandemic, more than six

00:03:11.520 million worldwide. Now, Fauci says a surge of the Omicron variant known as BA2 is in Europe and on

00:03:20.140 the way here. And he says your government may have to bring back some restrictions. But not so fast,

00:03:27.260 Dr. Fauci. You're the guy who said the virus didn't originate in a Wuhan laboratory. And then we found

00:03:33.960 out you helped fund it. You were also against masks. Then you were for masks. You said a travel ban

00:03:41.940 wouldn't help. And it sure did for the Chinese. Oh, and about those vaccines and the lockdowns and the

00:03:49.300 masks and school closures and the high price we all paid, particularly our young children. Not so sure

00:03:57.340 you're the right guy, Dr. Fauci. I am certain that our guest today is the right guy. He's Dr. Robert

00:04:04.520 Malone, a great doctor and internationally recognized scientist who was the original inventor

00:04:10.040 of mRNA vaccination as a technology. He also holds many patents U.S. and internationally. Dr. Malone has

00:04:18.800 done much to awaken his profession and the American people to what our government has been doing over the

00:04:25.280 past two years. And he considers it his mission to assure children are protected, to stop or limit

00:04:32.620 vaccine mandates, and to save lives. Good to have you here, Dr. Malone. Where are we with this pandemic,

00:04:40.400 this new variant, and now the number of cases? So right now, I haven't checked the case count lately for

00:04:49.100 the United States. I could do that right now online. But the case counts are relatively low. The new BA.2

00:05:00.600 variant, I think is what you're talking about. Right. And I think there is currently something in the range

00:05:06.940 of 10%. Dr. Fauci is predicting it may come up to 50%. But it's notable that he's also clearly signaling

00:05:17.840 that the morbidity and mortality, in other words, the severity of this new Omicron variant is modest,

00:05:28.020 just as the original one doesn't seem to be any different from Omicron. It's just a little more,

00:05:34.140 it's a little better able to compete in, apparently in Europe, not clear yet if that's going to play out

00:05:41.740 the same way in the United States. But that seems to be the current thinking coming from NIH. I personally

00:05:51.980 see this as more really fear-based journalism and messaging. There's no evidence that this is associated

00:06:03.840 with any great increase in disease severity. And the, what they're, it's interesting, they're choosing

00:06:13.460 the language that this is apparently, quote, 50% more infectious. So that sounds kind of ominous.

00:06:20.920 But what that means is that the R0 has bumped up from, you know, something like eight to something like

00:06:30.060 10. And it's, it's not making that much difference in terms of the disease and death, it is able to

00:06:43.020 compete better against the BA.1. I find it interesting that, and the reason I ask about cases and deaths,

00:06:50.400 and I follow those, I just wanted to get your sense of where we work, because I'm watching these daily

00:06:56.540 numbers. And I see, you know, that we're around 1,100 per day and deaths of late. And I'm being told

00:07:06.680 by various people, as we all are, that this thing has run its course, that we're near being an endemic.

00:07:12.480 And then we're told by Dr. Fauci and others that in point of fact, no, we've got to be prepared for a

00:07:18.660 surge and get ready for more controls on the part of the medical orthodoxy that now has political power.

00:07:26.540 Or well beyond anything ever envisioned by either law, legislatures, or indeed our, our founding

00:07:35.440 principles. It is very troubling to me to see that. On the other hand, I'm looking at 1100 deaths and

00:07:41.860 I'm saying, Dr. Malone, this is a lot of people to still be dying and call it endemic, because my math

00:07:49.560 takes that out to about 400,000 people a year. If it were to remain at that level and do a straight

00:07:55.960 line extrapolation, what do you think? So the problem with talking about deaths in the United

00:08:01.780 States is that we have the government having still in place this definition that if you die and you

00:08:13.100 have COVID or have recently had COVID, you're defined as having died from COVID. So those deaths,

00:08:20.740 you have to really look at, at the mortality and you have to look at changes in all cause mortality,

00:08:29.860 because the statistics that are being fed into these various, whether it's Johns Hopkins or

00:08:36.800 Worldometer or fill in the blank, whatever it is that you're tracking right now, are really biased

00:08:44.440 because of this intentional decision to inflate the number for deaths associated with COVID.

00:08:55.000 And like I said, the only reliable statistic that we have right now, in my opinion, in the United

00:09:00.840 States is all cause mortality and changes in all cause mortality, which is what the insurance industry

00:09:09.480 and the stock market analysts and the stock market analysts have been looking at. And those numbers

00:09:15.620 are ominous, but they're not showing the types of things that the government would like us to be

00:09:22.900 seeing. They are strongly, yeah, they're in the sense that if you, if you carefully dissect the all

00:09:32.600 cause mortality, which is much harder to manipulate because it's not subject to interpretation about

00:09:41.580 causal relationships, but it shows clear trends. These are the trends that have got the insurance

00:09:48.220 analysts worried. Originally, there was the report a few months ago, about a 40% increase in Q3 of 2020,

00:09:58.480 2021. And now, now we're in a situation in which this is being sustained and it's being dissected. These data

00:10:10.340 are being dissected and, and appear to show that the bumps, the surges in mortality, all cause mortality

00:10:19.140 correlate with key events having to do with mandated vaccination. And they don't correlate very well

00:10:26.560 with the surges in infections, such as, uh, the Delta surge, which has been the explanation of the

00:10:32.920 present. So, and, and now we have from a variety of sources breakdown that is stratified by age that's

00:10:42.140 showing surges in mortality in age cohorts that, that really haven't shown major mortality associated

00:10:50.800 with the virus. So that's, that for me, those are the numbers you got to watch, um, is all cause mortality.

00:11:00.400 And you're at this point, you're not concerned about a surge or, or an existing high level of deaths.

00:11:07.600 What, what, what it appear, what, so again, the deaths associated with the virus, um, appear to have

00:11:16.580 been overinflated considerably consequent to the decision on how deaths are being defined. Deaths with

00:11:24.500 virus are defined as deaths from virus, from the disease. And that's, that's clearly false. Um,

00:11:31.920 and, uh, so what I'm concerned about is, um, the trends in all cause mortality that seem to correlate

00:11:42.340 with key events having to do with vaccination and vaccination policy, right? The, um, the Omicron,

00:11:50.600 you know, we call it Omicron plus or stealth Omicron or B 8.2 that, although it seems to be somewhat more

00:11:58.040 infectious, it doesn't seem to be, um, more, um, more lethal or cause more severe disease unlike Delta.

00:12:07.240 And, and so if you look carefully at all the discussions that are, that are really cropping up

00:12:14.520 around the need for a fourth vaccine dose of Pfizer typically, um, also Moderna, the Moderna CEO is

00:12:24.600 more cautious than the Pfizer CEO regarding the fourth dose. But, uh, all of that, um, coincides

00:12:33.480 with the political machinations that have resulted in transfer of the remaining funds for COVID, um,

00:12:44.440 to the Ukraine battle. And now the government has to justify continuing the state of emergency

00:12:52.700 declaration and, um, ginning up more funds, significantly more funds. Cause right now they have no money

00:13:00.540 to pay for a fourth dose. Yeah. So I think that you really have to view all of this press through the lens

00:13:07.720 of, uh, various, uh, political interests. Um, uh, it's not, there's so much, um, information manipulation

00:13:19.080 going on. It has been for quite a while that it's hard to make sense out of things without taking into

00:13:25.240 account these various, um, agendas, let's say. Yeah, I, I think that, and that's one of the great,

00:13:34.120 you're one of your great contributions to this national conversation, uh, has been the fact that we have to

00:13:39.760 take account of all the cross currents and the powerful forces that are moving through our society

00:13:44.920 right now. Uh, and people have left out, uh, even recognition of the profit motive. Uh, they've left

00:13:52.120 out, uh, a considerable concern about the political, uh, direction, uh, and preferences, uh, in our society

00:14:01.720 right now, how they correlate. There is a nexus of, uh, concerns around, uh, just information, uh, and

00:14:09.640 information seems to me to be still after over two years of this, everything that you've done,

00:14:15.480 Dr. McCall, others, uh, we have a, uh, medical establishment that is still being unhelpful to the

00:14:24.440 average so-called American. We're all average in that sense. We're always average at something.

00:14:30.040 And the average American doesn't have an opportunity to understand why the CDC is now

00:14:40.120 handling the reporting of death rates rather than hospitals. We don't understand what has been,

00:14:45.960 you're talking about, uh, death rates. Uh, we don't know for sure exactly how those are being

00:14:51.480 calculated because the great complaint was that, uh, you know, they died with COVID, therefore they died

00:14:56.840 of COVID. Uh, that was the problem with hospital reporting. Has that been ameliorated? Has that

00:15:02.040 been fixed, changed as a result of now the CDC being responsible for the count?

00:15:07.080 Yeah. Lou, while we were talking, I've just looked up on world-o-meters, which is the,

00:15:12.120 the tool I prefer rather than the Hopkins site. Um, uh, so I looked up on world-o-meters

00:15:18.760 and I'm looking at daily new cases, trends in the United States, right? We've fallen,

00:15:23.720 the curve clear clearly shows that we've fallen. Um, uh, we're, we're still falling. We're currently

00:15:31.160 at 33,000 daily new cases, according to world-o-meter. Um, as of March 18th is the last

00:15:38.760 time reported. And that's down from a peak in January, January 13th here, I'm seeing of 889,000

00:15:47.880 or 900,000. So we've fallen from 900,000 down to 31,000. Um, and even in some, in some, let's see,

00:15:57.000 the latest March 21 is showing, uh, 22,479. So we're, we're, you got to really look at new cases.

00:16:06.760 And then, um, if I look at, uh, coronavirus deaths in the United States, daily new deaths,

00:16:13.160 again, that's, that's on a clear downward trend. And the latest, uh, that I see on this chart

00:16:20.920 for daily new deaths is March 19th at 501 down from a peak on, uh, January 27th of 3,430.

00:16:32.280 So, so, so the, the data that I'm looking at, uh, uh, shows that, uh, no evidence of a surge,

00:16:42.040 uh, a, a clear decline in continuing decline in daily new cases and a clear decline, um, including,

00:16:52.920 you know, down to, um, the most recent, let's see, I just got to fine tune it. Um, 232 for the

00:17:02.260 21st, 501 for the 19th. So, so I think, um, uh, we're, this is all consistent, uh, with

00:17:15.780 what had, what I and others had predicted and which even Mr. Gates asserted that the wave of Omicron

00:17:24.180 that hit us in, uh, uh, after the holidays, uh, in, into January has effectively vaccinated the bulk

00:17:33.140 of the U S population. And I think that's probably why Dr. Fauci is, is having to dial back on his

00:17:40.500 statements where he's now saying that, um, this isn't causing significant, uh, disease. It's not more,

00:17:48.740 uh, deadly, uh, uh, uh, than, than the, uh, original Omicron variant. Um, and, uh, he's predicting

00:17:59.780 a surge in infections. Uh, but I think that, that we have to be really cautious because the

00:18:06.740 mathematical modelers that they've been relying on in the U S government, which is largely the Imperial

00:18:12.740 college people back in the UK have consistently overshot the mark. Um, and, and there's the talk

00:18:20.580 about surge in Europe, but I'm not seeing that it again. I think we have a lot of really the truth

00:18:29.700 is we have a lot of mis and disinformation coming out of our government, uh, and certainly out of the

00:18:35.460 media. Here we are over two years later, all of the hard work that, uh, you and other doctors, uh,

00:18:42.580 who have been, uh, strong in, uh, in correcting the record and testing the thinking of our government

00:18:51.540 and the facts of the facts, the purported facts that they have shared. Dr. Fauci is suddenly back

00:19:01.060 on television after I thought a very healthy absence, uh, one that was good for the soul of

00:19:06.580 the country and suddenly his back talking about a surge, uh, and I'm looking down at numbers.

00:19:12.820 I have no idea what the difference is between the CDC reporting and hospitals reporting. I have no idea

00:19:18.740 because I don't trust this government in any way, shape or form. I have no idea. Well, I have an idea

00:19:25.700 that the CDC is in charge of that reporting now because the government can control it. Uh,

00:19:31.780 and so I get very, I'm very skeptical. Uh, I am very concerned about the fact that people have no idea

00:19:39.140 what is happening and that can, you can lay at the media's, uh, feet certainly is, uh, their responsibility,

00:19:46.020 but we're, we're talking about five-year-old kids here getting inoculated and I'm looking at, uh,

00:19:53.140 the numbers that everyone else sees and I can't see why a five-year-old needs to be inoculated against

00:19:58.580 this variant or COVID. Uh, I, I agree with you from a public health standpoint, there's no logic at

00:20:06.420 all. And I agree with Joe, uh, down in Florida who has just been mercilessly attacked for stating the

00:20:14.260 obvious. Um, fortunately now the wall street journal has put out an op-ed in which they're endorsing,

00:20:20.900 uh, the state of Florida position. So maybe sanity will come around, but you're right. The concerted

00:20:28.020 media attacks and efforts, including for the American medical association, uh, for stating

00:20:34.980 truth and, and the obvious I think is revealing of the conflicts of interest. I think it's saying

00:20:42.420 more about these organizations than it's saying about the data. And I believe with help from yourself

00:20:49.220 and others that we're starting to get that through to folks that they can, um, in a way that they can

00:20:56.500 understand and appreciate that they're been subjected to, um, amazing, uh, propaganda,

00:21:02.740 coordinated propaganda and censorship campaign designed to promote vaccination. And the, again,

00:21:10.260 just to go back, circle back the, the amazing drop in the New York times on president's day,

00:21:17.940 in which it was clearly and explicitly acknowledged that the CDC has been withholding data all the way

00:21:24.420 through and that the CDC has been politicized. It is a political arm of the executive branch. Now,

00:21:32.500 it is no longer an independent objective source of reliable information for physicians and public

00:21:39.860 health officers. And more doctors are coming to that sense. Uh, early on, I can still recall our,

00:21:46.500 our, our family doctor being very cautious, uh, wanting to make certain, uh, in the early days

00:21:54.020 that everything was CDC, uh, standards and following that rather precise. I haven't heard a mention of

00:22:01.380 that in a very long time. And, and the, the issue with Dr. Fauci, this is a man who lied to the American

00:22:11.780 people from the get go. Uh, he said directly that Wuhan was not the source. The Wuhan laboratory was

00:22:20.020 not the source of this virus. Uh, while indeed demonstrably the NIH and his, uh, department of

00:22:28.660 the NIH were funding at least part of that. He had to know what was going on there. And he's been so wrong

00:22:36.900 about so much that still he is the face of public health for the federal government.

00:22:44.740 And even if he said something that was life-saving and important and right, I don't, I don't think most

00:22:51.860 Americans would for one moment, believe a word the man said, what do we do? Yeah. So I, I agree. Um, and

00:23:01.860 it's clear that Dr. Fauci's utility as a political actor, um, has been compromised for this administration.

00:23:10.740 There's a great article. If I can just, uh, drop a name, Nicholas Wade on March 20th. Um, and he,

00:23:18.900 he's published in a journal called the city hyphen journal.org is how you can find it. The title is

00:23:25.700 journalists or PR agents. And what he lays out is the concerted, um, uh, really, uh, the, the concerted

00:23:37.940 effort to push back and normalize the idea again, that this virus emerged from a wild animal population

00:23:47.620 in some way. And it's, there's absolutely no documentation provided. The sources are basically

00:23:55.140 Fauci Collins and asserted individuals that have a conflict of interest in trying to push back

00:24:01.780 against the, uh, the narrative that this, uh, was a laboratory escape. I'd just like to hit on,

00:24:11.220 uh, his, his last two paragraphs that I think are seminal here. If the COVID virus should be found to

00:24:18.420 have indeed escaped from a lab in Wuhan, a tidal wave of public rage may shake the temple of science to

00:24:24.180 its foundations. It's in reflection of their sources interests. Although political polarization is

00:24:30.260 also involved that science writers jump on any evidence, they bring natural emergence and ignore

00:24:35.540 everything that points towards a lab leak. Science writers need to decide whether their duty lies to

00:24:40.900 their readers or to their sources. One choice makes them real journalists. The other just unaccredited

00:24:47.060 PR agents for the scientific community. So I think that's, that's where we're at all the way across is,

00:24:55.220 is I I'm speaking more and more that we're in a total information control and warfare environment.

00:25:02.980 The government is really kind of up against the fence here with, with what they've done.

00:25:09.060 Dr. I, I, I, I share with this audience, uh, a great skepticism about government and anyone or

00:25:18.180 anything that seeks to take control of our lives, uh, being disrespectful of our rights as Americans.

00:25:26.100 Uh, and we have reached a point where there is more disinformation and I've said this repeatedly on

00:25:32.500 this, on this show, it is so difficult to be in a situation which there's a war in Ukraine and we're

00:25:38.020 getting hit by Russian propaganda and misinformation, disinformation. We're getting

00:25:43.380 hit by Chinese disinformation campaigns. We're getting hit by, uh, Iranian disinformation campaign

00:25:50.500 and the list goes on, but the principal source of disinformation, the principal source of disinformation

00:25:57.700 in this country is coming from the United States government. We have been for seven years bombarded

00:26:04.740 by the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy, the democratic party, the national corporate media

00:26:11.700 with nonsense and no one is being held accountable. And so to divine what we should be doing within the,

00:26:18.500 this pandemic, if it were not for voices like yours, we would have been completely at sea and a quite

00:26:27.220 different. You're very kind, but it's, I, and I, and I, I'm grateful for that. Uh, but, but there's many,

00:26:38.580 many, that's the lovely thing is, uh, yes, I, I took some slings and arrows early on, but it gave courage.

00:26:47.780 You mentioned, uh, Peter McCullough, um, Pierre Corey, uh, Ryan Cole, who's just been mercilessly

00:26:55.620 attacked, Richard Erso, many, many others. Right. And, uh, what I find now is that as you mentioned,

00:27:05.860 physicians increasingly and the general public are becoming more and more aware of how badly they've

00:27:14.660 been manipulated by our government and by the pharmaceutical industry. And I think that there's

00:27:20.660 a silver lining there. I mean, I always try to look for, for the bright side of life to quote Monty

00:27:26.980 Python. Um, but, but if, you know, these folks have been manipulating us for decades now and they,

00:27:36.980 it's gotten so egregious, so overt that we now can see it. Every, every, everybody is,

00:27:43.940 is able to see it if they're willing to look and it validates the kinds of things that you

00:27:50.340 and so many others have been saying, you've also been brave in taking a lot of arrows and hits, uh,

00:27:57.540 by speaking out. And, um, so I, I, I think, um, I'm grateful for your kind words, but there's many

00:28:05.540 here that, that, uh, I understand deserve to be recognized. And I, I lionize all of you, uh,

00:28:14.020 for the very simple reason that you deserve to be, and that everyone should recognize the, the

00:28:21.460 monumental contribution you've made. We would be a different country right now. We're not for you

00:28:27.940 and all of the folks you named and more, uh, we, and there are a handful of people in the corporate

00:28:36.260 media who actually have had the guts to, uh, uh, stand up, uh, not many, but a few and, uh, Joe Rogan,

00:28:44.700 uh, you know, principal among, uh, all, uh, and getting the message out. It's been a difficult time,

00:28:51.940 but I have to say being independent of corporate America right now in my life and my career, it

00:28:58.580 gives me, uh, an opportunity to do something that others don't, don't have. Freedom is kind of a nice

00:29:05.700 thing, isn't it? It's so wonderful. It's kind of nice to be free. And especially with, you know,

00:29:12.340 it, you know, it was sometimes freedom isn't a choice, but it's a great result. Uh, and, uh,

00:29:18.980 exactly. I want to turn, I've been, go ahead, go, go ahead. Yeah. I was going to say, I've,

00:29:25.900 I've been spending a lot of time in various communities of faith and, uh, they keep emphasizing

00:29:32.640 the, the belief that, uh, there's a purpose in all this and, uh, just, um, to not get yourself

00:29:41.500 too worked up over it. Good things are going to come out of it. And again, you know, whether or not

00:29:46.620 you're a person of faith, I think there's a lot of merit in, in trying to look for the bright side

00:29:52.460 here, people, the world still looks to America for leadership. They still believe the American

00:29:59.320 people are fundamentally good people. And I think that if we can all wake up and stand up and recognize

00:30:08.080 that there is a concerted effort to, um, to manipulate us and to, uh, control in a global

00:30:18.860 sense, the politics and economics that we've all been subjected to, then we've got a chance to not

00:30:27.220 be put back into some kind of 21st century serfdom, which is, seems to be what they want to do.

00:30:33.740 So, you know, I, I, and I think people, doctor, I, I, I guess I'm as, uh, cheerier fellow as you,

00:30:40.480 uh, but I'm also highly experienced in, in the consequences of telling the truth. Uh, I, I've

00:30:49.300 grown accustomed to it. As I say, I, I get paid to tell the truth and therefore I, I suffer the

00:30:54.900 consequences for, I think readily and cheerfully than most others would who aren't accustomed to

00:31:00.780 the consequences. Uh, this is not a time where we should ever apologize for the American people,

00:31:07.420 but we are a good and decent people. And no one has worked harder than the American people to share

00:31:12.980 their wealth and their opportunity with the entire world. But what we are facing right now

00:31:18.220 is a concerted effort on the part of the left in this country, the radical democratic party,

00:31:24.440 the Marxist democratic party to absolutely take over our government and turn aside our way of life.

00:31:33.640 And no one can understand what has happened to us in this pandemic without understanding the forces

00:31:38.560 at work. And those forces are without any doubt whatsoever born of the left. Uh, they spring from

00:31:47.360 the, uh, the, uh, the doctrinaire universities and colleges that have been created on the left. Uh, it's

00:31:54.680 disinformation, it's, it's indoctrination, uh, it is across the board and Americans have to understand what

00:32:02.680 we're up against. And it is a powerful, powerful force indeed. Uh, you know, they demonize, uh, and what

00:32:10.840 we, what we really have to understand is that we have to respond, uh, with great forces of people

00:32:18.600 against these, uh, these evil actors, uh, they could have easily prevailed in this pandemic,

00:32:26.140 uh, shut down our schools, shut down our young people, destroyed so much potential for this country,

00:32:31.840 our human resources to put it in clinical terms for the future. Uh, it is, there's just no doubt.

00:32:40.280 And he still wants to contending in, in his latest statements, he's still endorsing lockdowns,

00:32:47.880 despite all the evidence of how much damage they cause. He's still there. It is that, you know,

00:32:54.380 again, judge them by, by their actions, not their words, look at what they're willing to do to us

00:33:01.200 and then figure out what the heck is going on. Lou, I just come back, uh, late last night from spending

00:33:08.860 the weekend on the West coast. Uh, I was invited back to my hometown of Santa Barbara to give a rally

00:33:16.860 and talk. And, um, I got to see what's happened to California since I left in essentially 84. And

00:33:27.040 then, you know, certainly Santa Barbara, I left in 82. One of the things that was shocking to me is the

00:33:34.040 policies they put in place for my original alma mater, Santa Barbara city college, uh, in terms of

00:33:41.640 masking vaccination requirements, all the lockdowns, distance learning and everything it's now at 50%

00:33:48.680 enrollment. What they're doing is they're, they're okay with depriving average folks of the ability to

00:33:57.540 get an education. Just process that for a minute. I got to see firsthand what's happened to California

00:34:06.020 in, in coming back from Virginia. So that was really, you know, you hear all these things about

00:34:12.420 what's going on in California culturally and legally and, um, within the legislature and all of their

00:34:20.100 mandate policies and everything else. I got to see it firsthand from the people that are suffering from

00:34:26.240 it and they are suffering. And I, I think that I'm with you. There's no other, it's really hard to

00:34:34.300 explain what's going on other than reaching to what you've just spoken about. And also to Matthias,

00:34:44.320 my good friend, Matthias Desmet's mass formation phenomena. People there are, there is a large fraction

00:34:51.200 of the population on the West coast that are just gone barking mad. Yeah. I, I, I had never heard,

00:34:59.980 uh, of, uh, the, the description, uh, for mass hypnosis, but, uh, without the, again, the, the

00:35:09.200 professional term for it, I, I happened to have thought that the left has gone barking mad for a long

00:35:14.880 time, but to see if we step back just momentarily. And when you're in the public arena, as you know

00:35:23.000 better now, because you have been fighting fiercely, uh, as a warrior for truth and for the health of

00:35:28.820 the country, uh, for the good of the country, but in this arena, you don't always see the whole and the

00:35:36.100 whole right now is, uh, fully, fully half. This country has bought into madness. Uh, they no longer

00:35:44.160 believe that, uh, that it's, I mean, uh, they no longer believe that the values that made this

00:35:51.260 country great are relevant. They no longer believe that there is a reason for integrity and the

00:35:55.980 institutions that have made this country so great. They no longer believe even in public education,

00:36:02.360 which is the great equalizer in our society. It's not in the war on poverty. It's not all of this other

00:36:07.760 stuff. And any fool should know that it is our public education, which performing at its

00:36:13.740 optimal is the greatest equalizer known demand. Uh, and to see what the left has done, uh, through the

00:36:23.160 teachers unions and through the madness. It's, it's measurable. It's, it's not just the 20 point IQ

00:36:29.800 drop in the young children that have, that have been born and starting to grow up into this. Yeah. It's

00:36:36.020 the, uh, ranking internationally in all of the science technology education areas. Uh, we're, we're

00:36:43.800 slipping way down the list now. And, and I, it's, it, it, you know, it's some, sometimes you kind of feel

00:36:52.180 like you don't recognize the place. I really don't like to say that. I mean, here, here in, in, um,

00:36:59.600 a fairly red rural County in Virginia, where we live, nothing's changed. People are still the same

00:37:06.780 as they always been. But I think in a lot of these more urban areas and along, you know, where the

00:37:13.280 coastal elites are, I'm sorry to characterize it that way, but that seems to be what it is.

00:37:18.860 Things, things are, are changing. People are, um, not able to access, as you say,

00:37:28.380 high quality education and it's having an impact. It's going to have a long-term impact on our

00:37:34.280 financial and economic, uh, competitive viability. I, the, the damage that's been done is profound.

00:37:41.980 And I don't know, you know, I'm, I'm a little, I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I, I'm at a

00:37:49.120 bit of a loss about what we're going to do about it. Yeah. And I don't think that, you know, at this

00:37:54.260 stage, it's not pessimism to look at, uh, the objective reality that we all face right now.

00:37:59.680 Uh, it is, uh, the right and moral, uh, thing to do because there's so many people, you talked about

00:38:06.320 20 points lower on an IQ. Uh, I, I mean, that's stunning. Uh, that is, that's devastating.

00:38:15.160 It is. And the developmental delays that we're seeing in children from all of these policies and

00:38:21.600 the masking, the psychoses, the suicide, um, the drug abuse, the, it just goes on and on and on and

00:38:31.520 on, um, um, the consequences of these policies. And yet still we see Dr. Fauci with not wanting to

00:38:40.220 change. We see Mr. Biden wanting to sustain his emergency declaration, despite the fact there's

00:38:47.560 no medical emergency with this. This is the consequence. You know, the, there's always all

00:38:54.460 this talk, um, uh, you know, a one party, uh, democracy is no democracy at all. I've seen it in

00:39:02.740 the state of Florida. I'm sorry. I've seen it in the state of California. I've seen it in the state of

00:39:07.760 Hawaii where both in, in the state of, uh, Washington. I've seen the consequences of,

00:39:14.440 of having a unit party and it, it doesn't work. It's bad. I don't know. I mean, that just to be

00:39:22.260 blunt, it, it, this is the consequence. And now we see it at the federal level since, uh, both houses

00:39:30.180 and, and the, uh, executive branch are all controlled by the same party. And this is what we get is this

00:39:36.220 kind of overreach. The problem I have, I think we all have is the midterms aren't for another year.

00:39:44.300 The POTUS, we've got three more years of this. Yeah. And it's just been a train wreck.

00:39:51.180 We're about now seven months out, 70 months out, uh, from the midterms in November. And I,

00:39:59.080 and I keep talking to politicos on this show. I, I'm just not a quick learner, doctor. I keep

00:40:04.860 talking to politicians. Uh, and, and they talk about how they just got to get through to the,

00:40:11.540 to the midterm election. And yet they've changed nothing, uh, on the ground. They know they are not

00:40:18.740 being assured, uh, through their own hard work of greater integrity in our electoral system. So what

00:40:24.480 happened in 2020 can occur again. There's no outrage in this country to find. We just recently had

00:40:31.100 Bill Barr, the attorney general under Donald Trump, who refused to quote unquote, intervene in the

00:40:36.520 election of 2020, uh, and gave a pass to vice, uh, the former vice president at that point on the

00:40:44.480 Hunter Biden laptop. Uh, and then he heard in the third debate of 2020, Joe Biden lying through his

00:40:54.240 teeth about both his son, the laptop, the contents on the laptop. And he lied with the, uh, the complicity

00:41:03.000 and aid of 50 veterans of the intelligence community and five former heads of the CIA.

00:41:11.980 And he said nothing because he didn't, he told Mr. Trump, he didn't want to intervene in the election.

00:41:18.660 And it was inappropriate to talk about a open case. He lied to 300 million people and he didn't find it

00:41:28.760 important to correct the record. That isn't intervention. This is the kind of madness that

00:41:35.180 grips us where a man, I think he's a good man, uh, but he's certainly a weak man. And we've got too

00:41:41.880 many of those folks in government. Uh, and otherwise, why would they not, why would they not be the

00:41:50.220 Republican party confronting Fauci and saying, here's the record, here's what was done. And here's what

00:41:57.460 Dr. Malone says is the truth, for example. And why in the world are you not recognizing reality? And why are

00:42:05.400 we not making policy according to the science that you keep exalting, but ignoring?

00:42:11.880 Because that's where we are now with the left and our government. I'm sorry. I'm sad to say.

00:42:17.000 So that, that gets back. It's okay. It's, it gets back to my point. This is not about public health.

00:42:22.620 You, I cannot reconcile the data, the behavior, the policies with it being driven by a public health

00:42:32.160 agenda. It appears to be driven by other agendas. And now we have Mr. Biden speaking directly about new

00:42:40.360 world order. He's used the language before with build back better, the language of Klaus Schwab,

00:42:46.500 but now he's directly endorsing it. And I think, you know, people need to look into and understand

00:42:55.080 what this means. This is advocacy for the end. This may sound like hyperbole, but the new world order

00:43:05.340 envisions a environment in which we basically have corporatists running world government and the nation

00:43:16.900 state becomes obsolete, which is to say that the idea behind the constitution, that we have some sort of

00:43:25.540 national, national autonomy, uh, to make our own decisions and make our own way and have our own

00:43:32.080 governmental rules is obsolete. That that's the, that's what they're intending to enable.

00:43:40.220 And there's no, you can't hide it. It's out in the open. All, you know, you can deny it. You can,

00:43:48.920 um, uh, obfuscate it through words and through media and through propaganda, but it's right there.

00:43:57.480 And for some reason we've ended up with the president of the United States, despite his oath to defend

00:44:03.760 the constitution, who is endorsing a new world order that involves a one world government that is built

00:44:14.060 on principles that are those which are being advocated by the left in this country.

00:44:21.300 Yeah. And whether it's, uh, the department of Homeland security, uh, secretary, uh, Alejandro

00:44:29.280 Mayorkas selecting corporate CEOs for his advisory council for the department of Homeland security,

00:44:35.620 imagine that. And by the way, it's not, it's not a surprise that each of the CEOs he chose are

00:44:41.520 corporatists, they're global corporatists and they're left wing global corporatists supporting.

00:44:46.660 And most instances, uh, black lives matter BLM, which is now, uh, disgraced, uh, uh, and discounted

00:44:55.300 by its own actions and words, uh, but which corporate America supported because it was convenient to their

00:45:01.660 interest to have riots over four months of the summer of 2020 in that election year. Uh, it is,

00:45:09.140 it is so appalling to see where we are. And if it were not right now, I truly believe this,

00:45:15.140 if it were not for podcasting, I think all of the voices, independent voices that respect

00:45:21.980 individualism and respect the constitutional Republic, namely ours and respect the bill of

00:45:28.780 rights and the traditions and the heritage of this country and understand that there, there is no

00:45:35.380 accident here. This country was born of a great idea. Uh, and so many people have sacrificed to

00:45:41.960 preserve what now corporate America, the globalist elite, uh, our universities and colleges, uh, our,

00:45:52.820 uh, our media are trying to destroy even the, the deep state, if you will, along with the democratic

00:45:59.380 party and our, our faith leaders are not recognizing it and fighting hard. They will, they're afraid to step in

00:46:06.680 front of their pulpits, uh, step in front of their congregations, uh, and, and say, here is truth.

00:46:14.240 And we have to recognize that if we're going to preserve our faith, whatever that faith may be,

00:46:18.860 uh, the Republican party is filled with rhinos who are nothing more than agents of the left.

00:46:25.820 Uh, they are not just Republicans in name only. They're not Republicans at all. Uh, and by the way,

00:46:32.580 uh, no, they're uniparty. A lot of them are, are, yeah, they're uniparty and a lot of them are

00:46:41.120 world economic forum trained or, or tied in some way where we, you're right. You're, we're in a

00:46:48.680 situation to my eyes where something like all of the left, all the democratic party, and perhaps up to

00:46:56.000 a third of the, or perhaps even more of the sitting Republicans are really all in one uniparty, um,

00:47:06.200 environment that seems to be closely tied with this globalist agenda. Yeah. And, uh, I, and then the

00:47:14.300 media you're, I'm with you on that. It is time for a new media. And, uh, I, I think that there are

00:47:22.840 signs that it's emerging. I, I get contacted by people that are building, investing in new media

00:47:34.360 solutions. The, the established media has, has, is clearly compromised. It has been bought. It has

00:47:42.440 become an agent of these, uh, globalist interests and it's deeply compromised by the intelligence

00:47:49.920 community. That's unequivocal. And the Hunter Biden laptop case is, is, is quite explicit.

00:47:58.520 The, uh, involvement in interface between the intelligence community and, uh, the legacy

00:48:05.320 media is clear as a bell. It's also pretty clear in the case of Ukraine. And it's the thing that's

00:48:11.940 really woken a lot of people up, of course, is in the COVID. So it's time we build, we must build a

00:48:19.920 environment in which free speech is respected. And one of the things Lou, if I can continue my little

00:48:26.800 rant, if you think about the logic that underpins the super PACs, the logic there that was put to

00:48:37.800 the Supreme court is that money is free speech. Remember? Um, money represents politically protected

00:48:47.680 speech. And what we've had with this new strategy of deplatforming people, you know, whether it's

00:48:57.080 preventing your donations to give, send, go, or go fund me, or directly attacking your ability to

00:49:05.860 access your bank account, that logic that's now gone from the level of nation states down to the

00:49:14.360 individual as shown by Justin Trudeau. That, that is the ultimate. It it's, it, it is, if money is

00:49:22.600 speech, free speech, they're able to deplatform now an individual with the push of a button and, uh,

00:49:32.800 completely prohibit not only their ability to speak and, but to participate in society or even to,

00:49:39.900 uh, have any kind of a likelihood to go and go shopping, to buy gas. And that's accepted why we

00:49:49.020 don't have outrage over the hat blows my mind. It is. I couldn't agree with you more. And I,

00:49:57.460 I couldn't agree with you more about my surprise at the reaction of the American people to these

00:50:03.580 outrageous. We had a, a, a theater, uh, in Canada, just North of us. Uh, we got to watch authoritarianism,

00:50:12.020 uh, play out, uh, to prosper and to take over a country that I never thought would, uh, diminish

00:50:19.600 individual rights, uh, with the force, uh, and the ignorance that their government did. Uh, and it's,

00:50:27.080 it is a clear clarion, the call to the American people, as we witnessed that, that we have precisely

00:50:34.240 the same thing going on in this country. And perhaps not as obviously because we're too close

00:50:39.360 to it sometimes like the frogs in that boiling water to know what's going on. Uh, but if anybody

00:50:46.060 watched what happened to those truckers up there and God bless them, uh, it's, it's, you have to be

00:50:53.700 frightened for this country. And by the way, Americans, uh, can be frightened. Uh, we still

00:50:59.520 march on and we still get to the gunfire, but it's okay to be frightened because there is every reason

00:51:05.660 for us to be frightened with what these people are doing to our country. But they are intentionally

00:51:10.740 weaponizing fear that, that also has been made clear all the way through this. I use the phrase fear

00:51:18.120 porn, but, but there is a clear and conscious, there's clear evidence of conscience and conscious

00:51:25.780 intent to weaponize fear against the American public to, uh, cause them to behave in, in ways

00:51:35.860 that the government intends them to behave. And it, and it, right. It goes from self-censorship

00:51:41.900 all the way through, you know, just avoidance of conflict and, uh, flat out, um, you know, shaking,

00:51:51.280 uh, in fear, stuck in your home to, uh, depression and people resorting to various drugs and drug abuse

00:52:03.340 and alcohol abuse and suicide. That's all driven by these governmental policies, um, enforced by the

00:52:11.580 media of propagating fear. And we have to, uh, in, when I was out on the West coast speaking

00:52:19.320 on Saturday, one of my key messages, I did two different engagements was, um, we have to recognize

00:52:28.820 that this is full on information warfare and the, our opponents have no ethics. They see no boundaries.

00:52:38.300 There is nothing that they won't do. I was speaking to Senator Ron Johnson for about 45 minutes last night

00:52:44.800 about all the things he's been subjected to in Wisconsin. He doesn't even have an opponent

00:52:49.420 yet, but they've, there's already been about $15 million spent against him and a longstanding

00:52:56.860 coordinated media effort to paint him as an extremist and a crazy guy. And that's, that's what he's up

00:53:06.620 against. And that's what we're all up against is this coordinated attack, um, intended to delegitimize

00:53:14.000 any voice. And yeah, so I've, I've been a victim of that, I guess, victim. I don't like to play a victim.

00:53:22.700 Uh, it has certainly been, um, propagated, you know, weaponized against me, but Hey, I'm still standing.

00:53:29.180 I'm still speaking with, uh, you know, thanks to folks like you. And, uh, I think all of us,

00:53:37.720 the, the starting point with the fear is, um, you know, the, the only thing we have to fear is fear

00:53:44.400 itself, right? Let's just stand up and have some courage. Don't let them, uh, bully us because that's

00:53:53.480 really what it is, is it's bullying behavior. Yeah. It's, it is, it's suffocating, uh, what,

00:54:00.280 what is happening in this country, our middle-class working men and women, their families, uh,

00:54:05.920 Donald Trump had acquainted them with the idea that Republicans could be for them,

00:54:10.520 could work for them. Uh, and he did, and he did so energetically and originally, uh, now the

00:54:17.860 Republican party is in the hands of Mitch McConnell, uh, Mike, uh, Kevin McCarthy, uh, these,

00:54:25.240 these rhinos and, and people are desperate, desperate to be told you're not, uh, who the

00:54:33.960 people who teach CRT say you are, you're not a racist because you want sovereignty. You want to

00:54:41.600 control your own country's borders rather than send troops and MIGs and whatever else, uh,

00:54:47.360 to, uh, to, to Ukraine, uh, to our client state. Yeah, exactly. Uh, to support the, the profits of,

00:54:56.120 uh, these select, uh, politically elite families. I mean, that's, that's, let's call it where it's

00:55:02.540 at. I mean, all of the major leadership on the left, uh, has sons that are sitting on keyboards

00:55:10.760 and are profiting from the Ukraine situation. It had become a client state. Yep. And, uh,

00:55:16.680 with, with a puppet, uh, leader that we've placed in there. That's so that I think that situation is

00:55:23.940 far more complex than we're allowed to think. Don't you find it just to the media? Go ahead.

00:55:30.740 Don't you, don't you find it interesting that Americans, we call those, uh, billionaires in

00:55:36.780 Ukraine and Russia, we call them oligarchs. Our billionaires, we call immensely successful

00:55:43.860 businessmen and women, uh, and, uh, almost revere in our corporatist media. I wonder why. Uh,

00:55:52.780 and we give power to social media and big tech to ban a president from the platform. Uh, nevermind

00:56:01.620 the little individual user or Twitter person, uh, who just gets batted around. We, we tolerate that

00:56:09.800 and we tolerate it because we're fearful. We don't want to be called a racist. We don't want to be a

00:56:14.920 bad person. Uh, uh, even though we're acting. Anti-vaxxer. We don't want to be anti-vaxxers.

00:56:22.100 Oh, exactly. You don't want to be. They have all kinds of euphemisms, all kinds of labels for us.

00:56:27.500 Well, you've. But it is, it's bullying. I mean, it's schoolyard bullying. Yeah. It's,

00:56:32.780 it's, it's fascism. Uh, it's totalitarianism and, and Lord help us. We better stop it now. Uh,

00:56:41.260 Dr. Miller, we have, as you know, on this project, on this podcast, uh, an important feature in which

00:56:47.700 we give the guest always the last word, and this is your turn. Okay. Well, thanks Lou. Um,

00:56:55.980 it's been a pleasure as always. Uh, I think that the, the key message here is that, um, uh, we,

00:57:06.440 we all need to be aware of what's happening and don't despair. And I really believe that for our

00:57:17.060 fellow man or other citizens, even those that are wrapped up in this hypnosis,

00:57:25.980 we need to have an open heart, not, not seek to retaliate, recognize that they're suffering from

00:57:35.560 having been subjected to propaganda and having their, in their worldview crafted by major media.

00:57:46.760 And our challenge is to talk them out of it and it can be done. We have to be very patient,

00:57:52.420 but, but we can get there if we stand up and stand on our principles and remember that this amazing

00:58:02.200 gift that was given to us by the founding fathers is our heritage. And we have to defend it. Well,

00:58:10.680 first we have to recognize what it is and that it's under threat over.

00:58:14.460 Yeah. Outstanding. I appreciate it. Thanks, uh, Dr. Malone for all that you've done for this country

00:58:19.920 and continue to do. And thank you for being with us here today. Uh, God bless you. And I hope to see

00:58:26.940 you soon. And, and thank you so much. Thanks, Lou. Be good. Dr. Robert Malone, a great American,

00:58:33.300 his words, uh, eloquent in defense of a country that right now is in very deep trouble. As I said,

00:58:43.940 uh, if you feel afraid, uh, that just shows that you're paying attention to what is happening,

00:58:49.840 but we're going to overcome fear and we're going to go to work and we're going to take control of

00:58:55.440 our lives. We're going to take control of our communities. And we're going to do so, uh, with,

00:59:00.620 uh, the, the founding values of this country very much, uh, in focus. We have to stand up now. We

00:59:09.240 have to, I would urge you to do this. I would urge you to talk to your pastor, to your rabbi, to whomever,

00:59:15.540 uh, that you, uh, worship with and urge them, urge them to, to please start speaking from their pulpits,

00:59:24.980 to start encouraging energy and focus and awareness, because we have to turn this around.

00:59:31.900 As Dr. Malone said, we, we have to be patient, but as, uh, John Wooden, a great basketball coach,

00:59:40.240 the greatest basketball coach in, uh, college basketball history used to say to his team,

00:59:45.440 uh, be quick, but don't hurry. Uh, we've got until, uh, November to get ready. Uh, with that

00:59:53.980 means we have to get ready. Now we can only hope the Republican party is working hard,

00:59:59.120 urgently working to make certain that there are organizations, attorneys by the thousands and

01:00:05.700 volunteers by the tens of thousands ready to make certain that these midterm elections

01:00:11.300 are secure and honest, absolutely legitimate. Let's all do our part and start with our local

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The Great America Show - March 23, 2022

DR. MALONE SAYS NO EVIDENCE OF A COVID SURGE

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