DR. OZ SAYS REALITIES OF LIFE ARE CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND AMERICA FIRST
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Lou Dobbs returns to the wilds of a northeastern state to call for Kevin McCarthy's ouster from the House of Representatives. Joe Biden s fourth of a 4th of a presidency in Delaware, and the Secret Service is playing a shell game with the American public to keep those records secret. President Trump has endorsed Dr. Oz in the primary, and he's leading in the polls.
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
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I'm Lou Dobbs, and it's great to have you with us today.
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I'm once again coming to you from an undisclosed location today.
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It seems best to be a little cautious, so we've withdrawn a bit to a defensible position
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in the wilds of what we'll just call a northeastern state.
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Not really, I suppose, but given that of late, I've been upsetting many of the D.C.
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swamp creatures and denizens of Silicon Valley and Wall Street.
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You know, those coastal oligarchs, they're not to be trusted, and not a few of the powerful
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I do acknowledge that I've been a little more vocal about what I call McCarthyism running
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McCarthyism is our name on this show for the Republican propensity to almost always put
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rhinos in charge of the Republican Party, to put them in leadership, whether on Capitol
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Hill or the White House or the Republican National Committee.
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And frustration always sets in within the grassroots and rank and file of the party because there
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is a tremendous gap, a yawning void between those rhino leaders and Republican voters.
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Oh, yes, there's some concern because I also was the first to call for Kevin McCarthy to
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step down, to resign after listening to leaked audio tapes of his phone conversation, a phone
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conversation between the minority leader and Liz Cheney, in which he clearly was comfortable
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telling Cheney that the President of the United States had taken some responsibility for January
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6th, and McCarthy would tell Mr. Trump to resign.
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Cheney seemed doubtful, but also seemed to think that was just a buffo idea.
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Reportedly, and not surprisingly, President Trump said he's good with McCarthy, no hard feelings
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Mr. Trump can be a generous man, so can I, but not when it comes to swamp rats.
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To me, deceit and treachery are automatic disqualifiers for any leadership role in the Republican Party,
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or for any job, for that matter, that calls for honesty, integrity, and principled conduct.
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So, yes, here we are today, coming to you from an undisclosed location, added security, waiting
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for tippers to cool, appropriate, I think, since McCarthy immediately retaliated against
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me after my call for his resignation as minority leader.
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And if a man will do that, there's almost no limit, is there?
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So, back to politics and the inept, impaired President who somehow has taken up residence
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What are we to do about a Commander-in-Chief who confuses major policies, is likely compromised
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by both the Chinese and Russia, gets lost in the White House, often speaks incoherently,
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and occasionally has to be guided by a large Easter bunny, and nonetheless has a military
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officer always standing nearby with a nuclear briefcase, a briefcase that contains the daily
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codes with which to launch ICBM missiles with nuclear warheads at targets of this doddering,
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confused old man's choosing all around the world.
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But still, despite the mortal danger this puppet president represents to us and to the world,
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the corporate media says nothing, and the Marxist left does nothing, and the pretense goes on.
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Just like the Secret Service, which claims it has no record of visitors to Biden's Delaware
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The New York Post reports that Biden has spent a fourth of his presidency at those homes in
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Delaware, but the Secret Service says they didn't record any of Biden's visitors.
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Judicial Watch's Tom Fitton says the Secret Service is playing a shell game with the American
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One of the Republicans running this year to change the direction of government and the
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You know him, of course, from television over many years.
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That Republican primary is coming up next month, May 17th.
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Oz, and in the latest polling by the Trafalgar Group,
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Oz is leading the large field of opponents in the GOP primary.
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Oz, great to have you with us back on the Great America Show, and I want to congratulate you
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first and foremost on your new position, strong position, in the latest polls, the Trafalgar
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We've been speaking for many years, and as you know, when you have a bold, loud voice,
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as you have had, it helps the electorate make a decision.
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People are just trying to decide if you're the person to defend what they know is wrong
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And I've been able to do that on my show for many years, taking on big governments, big
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tech, big agrochemical companies, big pharma companies.
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And it's unfortunately one of the skill sets you must have to be in the United States Senate.
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And we don't want to have a backbencher senator.
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We need people with bold voices to strive forth into the culture wars, because they're using
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knives on the Democratic side, and Republicans walk into these culture wars with index cards.
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And we want to stop doing that and get our points across.
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And I want to say to the audience, I've known Dr. Oz for quite a while.
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And in the earliest days of the pandemic, he was still a strong and independent voice,
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skeptical of just about every aspect of what was going on, and a scientific skepticism,
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So I have to say that about you, if I may, Dr. Oz.
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I always respected you and was grateful for your voice on my show.
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I want to turn, if I may, to the issue of something very similar, and that is schools.
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Right now, Ms. Weingart of the Federated Teachers is saying that teachers should have the privilege
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of zero, zero cases of the virus before that they're in session, before they lift any mandates
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This is a typical example of a false narrative.
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There is a pretend belief that if you have lockdowns, if you put masks on everybody forever,
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that you'll actually meaningfully change a number of cases.
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And one of the reasons President Trump endorsed me in the Senate campaign in Pennsylvania,
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is because he wanted someone who would be smart and tough.
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If we fight on their battlefield, then what Rainer Weingart is basically saying is,
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how many lives will you sacrifice before you start putting masks on?
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Well, that's a horrible question to even contemplate.
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The truth from a scientist's perspective is, you're not saving lives by these actions.
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So when you pretend that you are, you're virtue signaling.
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That's why we see some of the massive shifts that are occurring across America, because
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legislative leaders were never following the signs.
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And when voters start saying, enough, we don't think this works.
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Here in Philadelphia, where I am right now, Lou, this is crazy.
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Now, the reason wasn't the reasons they've given in the past, like we don't have enough
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rooms in the hospitals, we want to prevent hospitalizations.
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Hospitalizations are down 90% since earlier this year.
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What they said was, we changed the goalposts, move them back a little bit.
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We're going to just use total numbers of cases as our excuse.
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So they finally last night rescinded this mask mandate.
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But the real reason they did it was enough businesses said, are you out of your minds?
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They'd rather stay in the surrounding communities where they're not having any of these crazy
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And who wants to cross the street to get slapped?
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And so those are the real drivers of these decisions.
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What Randy Weingarten is saying is, I'm pretending that I'm fighting for you, the impoverished teacher
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And I know they know they can't teach kids effectively when everyone's wearing masks or
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And as a doctor, I'll speak to the fact that we don't have convincing data that wearing masks
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makes much of a difference for the kids or even for their teachers.
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Surprising maybe to the Democrats, it doesn't seem to work.
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So the truth is, let people live their lives because we know there's a damage done by imposing
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these mandates and you're not providing us health safety.
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And there are lots of consequences of wearing masks that we don't understand.
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A number of reports on developmental issues for children, a number of reports on actual
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IQ testing that has been done because the kids have been at home.
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They're not as engaged, socialized at all sorts of reasons.
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We also have a CDC report coming out about a mystery hepatitis outbreak among a lot of
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kids in the United States and UK who have a mysterious liver disease.
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And the speculation is it's because of weakened immune systems from the lockdown.
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And no one wants to talk about these consequences.
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I don't know much about the hepatitis issue, but I do know that we have caused a significant
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This has been documented well enough that it's raised a lot of concerns.
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I know this is a scary concept, but without question, when you put a mask on a child and
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the teacher, the kid doesn't see the mouth move.
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They don't have any recourse because they have to wear their mask all day long.
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You put a mask that's not a high quality one on a child, you're probably not making much
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Plus, if the kid doesn't wear it correctly all day long, which they don't, plus it gets
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wet, therefore it doesn't work for more than a couple hours.
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And you add that to the reality that when kids do who are healthy get COVID, they don't
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seem to have much of an issue, especially with these newer variants.
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Well, then I'm left believing that there's not much benefit.
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And any risk at that point becomes too much to tolerate.
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That's why many parents, most parents, are not vaccinating their small children.
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Many already had COVID, have native immunity, and many others are healthy and therefore not
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And I want to talk to you about a number of issues.
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But it seems to me that there are two or three basic foundational issues that are rising up
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in this campaign nationwide in this midterm election.
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And we're talking about on one grouping and within one issue, it's about parental rights.
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It extends to vaccines, to children's sex education, parental rights.
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Where do you stand on the issue of vaccinating young children?
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I want to ask you about a host of issues there.
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Well, let's go through parental rights because I think it is the hottest topic next to energy
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And they are related issues in a way because they're both spitting false narratives offered
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by the left against common sense solutions offered by conservatives.
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Parents love their kids more than anybody else.
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I think everyone, Democrat, Republican, everyone agrees with that.
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Therefore, ignoring the parents' desires in this process is dangerous.
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It's going to be apparent here in Pennsylvania when I win the general election in November.
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The parents' desire to make sure their kids hear the right things at the right time and
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are protected as much as possible are often ignored.
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In the case of vaccinations, it's done by mandating vaccines.
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And that's happening more in college kids and kids a bit older.
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But most parents don't think the vaccines make sense for their small children.
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My daughter, Daphne, who you probably know she's hosting my show right now since I had
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to step off my program to campaign, we have four grandkids.
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She's not going to vaccinate a 2-, 4-, 6-, and 8-year-old.
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First of all, I'm very highly confident they've already had COVID.
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But secondly, she doesn't think the unknown in the future, as small as it might be or significant
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as it might be, is worth it when there's not a significant upside.
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Then just transition, if I can, to this issue of what we teach the kids in a way.
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In New Jersey, there's a new law that every 1st and 2nd grader must be exposed to complex
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These teachings are, I believe, not appropriate for children of that age, especially if the
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And again, one of the reasons President Trump endorsed me is because he knows I can bring
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85% of young children who think they're transgender, 85% will go back to thinking that they're
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biologic sex by the time they're adolescents if you just leave them alone and love them.
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So again, the child has to feel adored no matter what's going on.
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But don't get into their head and make them think that just because they walked in their
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Their brains are evolving and developing, and they will naturally find the right path if
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we leave them alone to do that and not get in their way.
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And this is the kind of debate that Republicans should be bringing forward.
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When Jen Psaki, the White House spokesperson, said that Republicans are trying to hurt children
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by not educating them about transgender issues, that's a dishonest statement.
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There is no evidence that you change what children do based on embracing who they think they are
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Again, making Republicans argue on a terrain that is inhospitable, but also wrong.
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I think most parents would say, how could any group, teachers, administrators, and schools
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think that they have the right to make such a decision absent the parents' influence and
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And we have, again, the federated teachers saying that what Florida is doing is akin to starting
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a war because they demand that parents be involved.
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They're not some sort of vocal minority, as a number of people have said.
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And the idea that they would even discuss sex of any kind with kindergartners through third
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And to do so without parent involvement and approval is disgusting.
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Parents have to take back, and I'd like to know if you'll go this far, parents have to
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And if they can't involve themselves in an effective way with the school system, they
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What a damning indictment of the public school system when one in 10 taxpaying parents pull
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their kids out of the school to homeschool them.
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And they're doing it because they don't trust the school system.
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There's a significant number of systems now that are being threatened by charter schools
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and other private options because parents aren't finding satisfactory answers in the
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This, again, is challenging the entire foundation of public school, which is based on an 1830s
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This is about lobbyists, like teachers unions, controlling hook, line, and sink or the Democratic
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You know, I mean, I grew up just south of Philadelphia.
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And in that area, there's a lot of charter schools.
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And the charter schools are used by parents, not because their graduation rates are so high,
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although they are, not just because their buildings are brand new and work well, but that's
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true, not just because the teachers who are, by the way, the public school teachers who
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The parents come to these charter schools because they're safe, Lou.
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This is the degree of pathology in the public school system.
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But the students' parents, some of them are elected representatives in Harrisburg, in our
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They will vote against charter schools, even though their own kids go there, because they
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know they're dependent on public school funding.
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And it costs almost $18,000 a year for the average public school student in this country.
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It costs the taxpayer $18,000, which is completely insane.
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And by the way, the simple matter is we're not getting what we're paying for.
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And teachers bear great responsibility for that, but so do parents, so does the community
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for not taking control and responsibility for those schools, in my opinion.
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I want to turn to the issue in Florida, the law that they passed on parental rights there,
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In this case, we're talking obviously about Disney, which has lost 30% of its value on the
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There is a tremendous national backlash against Disney, and I have to give Ron DeSantis, the
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governor of Florida, great credit for having the courage, first of all, to drive that parental
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rights legislation, and secondly, to tell Disney to back off and get out of the relationship
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We are witnessing a gathering of powerful forces, the federal government, big media,
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the higher educational centers, leaders of this country, and big industry.
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And together with big tech, they're telling us what to think.
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When you have big business, big government, big media, and our universities all saying the
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It's not just a coincidence that they take these strong positions on issues they shouldn't
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And I believe that if we as Republicans are unable to say what we see and do it in ways
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that are compelling for most Americans, then we're failing our country.
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Again, the reason President Trump endorsed me was not just because he believed I have conservative
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values that I share with most conservatives, pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, strong border
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All these are traditional ways of thinking about the world because the realities of life
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But we have to actually be brave and bold enough to go out there and say what we are seeing.
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And what you pointed out with a significant impact on Disney's bottom line, I believe, in
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the future, is an example of companies overstepping what people really think they should be able
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And they don't want to have a small number of disgruntled, busy employees compelling a
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massive corporation that's very trusted in America to start taking on elected officials
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who are doing their best to address overreach by teachers unions and others.
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And these are the kinds of issues that animate Republicans.
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That's why we're going to have a very, very strong turnout, not just in my primary on May
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17th here in Pennsylvania, but across the country in November.
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I want to turn to the issue of energy because behind all of this in some fashion or form is
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the Marxist left White House inhabited by a puppet president by the name of Joe Biden.
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And the energy policy of this administration is anti-American.
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And we'll roll us back in terms, in my opinion, of this economy of 20, 30 years.
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Your thoughts on fracking, on the policies of this administration?
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If you go have a pancake at a diner in Pennsylvania, your waitress will sit next to you as she's
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pouring your coffee and lecture you on energy policy.
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That's how frustrated and angry voters are here.
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And the reason for it is they see all the things you're pointing to, which I'll cover
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But they also recognize that right beneath our feet here in Pennsylvania, we have two
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We have more natural gas than we could ever use.
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Hundreds of years to supply the entire country if we wanted to.
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Despite all the realities of natural gas being able to help our country protect itself and
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help our allies, it's also better for the environment.
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The lie is that the Green New Deal is the path forward.
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It is scientifically impossible to deliver on those promises in the time allotted.
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I've never heard of an energy expert who really understands renewable sources argue
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So what we're really saying is, because we are so ideologically stuck as far-left Democrats
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to the idea of a Green New Deal, we're not going to allow any rational thought about what
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And what does work is natural gas, which is brought up in ways that are so clean that if
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we were to ship it overseas and actually help our allies, it will be the equivalent,
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Lil, this is important, equivalent to electrifying every vehicle in America, the entire fleet,
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plus putting a solar panel on every roof, plus doubling wind energy production every
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This is a massive opportunity for us to save the environment if you really care about the
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And in fact, America, this is going to shock people, has actually met the Paris Accords.
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That's what we're focused on dramatically because we have been using more of our natural gas.
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Pay people with well-meaning, with motivations, good money to build their communities, make our
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country energy independent and energy dominant, and then go help our allies overseas.
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And President Trump has told me it helped him immensely that America was energy independent.
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It changes how you negotiate with other countries.
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The world is looking to us, begging us for leadership.
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They would say, because we quibble here in Singapore, whatever country I was in.
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You're the bright city on the hill that is a North Star for us.
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We cannot afford to be weak, because when we fail, China succeeds.
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And nobody wants an authoritarian, controlling country, a government like China's, ruling
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That is dominion over the globe, including, of course, with their strategic partner, Russia.
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I want to ask you this as we conclude on the issue of foreign policy.
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Would you style yourself as an America first policy conservative?
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Would you say that your policies, your thought on America's role are America first, that Trump
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No, I believe that we have to be a strong country.
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America first is the right way to think about it.
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Not selfishly, but it is actually, as I was articulating earlier, a way that the entire
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planet will feel like they are offered an option, like capitalism built on democracy.
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Only if we fail, if we trip, if we fall, does plan B come into effect, which is China.
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But we should be awake to the reality that China wants us to fall.
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And the Chinese, as you know, they don't tell you what to think.
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They make you think a certain way before they even bring it up so that you're already on
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70 percent, 70 percent of Chinese nationals think they should take Taiwan right now.
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They've been brainwashed to think that so that if it were to happen, they would be happy
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Do you believe the United States should out loud say directly that we will defend Taiwan
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We have to message that loudly enough that no one can mistake that for a soft whisper.
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We have to turn that island nation into a porcupine, arm them well, ally with the Japanese and the
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Australians and others in Asia who are on our team and make sure that the message is very clear
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and be heard by China that this will carry significant consequences because that is our
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best chance of preventing them from taking an action that they will regret and will bring
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a ton of pain into Asia, similar to what we're witnessing in the Ukraine.
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Dr. Oz, running for the U.S. Senate in the great state of Pennsylvania.
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And we appreciate your time and we appreciate your candor.
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As I said, Dr. Oz is the leader in that Pennsylvania primary race for the Senate.
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For more on his positions on every issue, you can go to DrOz.com.
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Please join us here tomorrow for the country's best investigative reporter, Peter Schweitzer.
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Peter Schweitzer's revelations on the D.C. swamp are astonishing.
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As Tom Fitton puts it, D.C. is now a nightmare, and it's always worse than we think.
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Till then, God bless you, and God bless America.