The Great America Show - EMPEROR XI AND GLOBAL CHINESE DOMINION

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.240 And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.620 Hello, everybody, and good to have you join us here on the Great America Show. Welcome.

00:00:19.440 And we turn now to American businessman, Jonathan Bass, who has considerable experience

00:00:25.200 with global commerce and specifically the relationship with China, a man who I've found

00:00:34.040 to be a keen observer of the geopolitics, geoeconomics of the Sino-U.S. relationship.

00:00:45.560 Jonathan, great to have you with us. And I just want to start with this great country, China,

00:00:53.020 is now having immense economic problems. Unemployment is considerable. We are seeing

00:01:02.100 real debt issues with the housing and development sector, the property sector in China. We're also

00:01:11.960 seeing defaults. And the Chinese government, the Communist Party, is not standing behind

00:01:20.280 those companies who have taken in lots. And by lots, I mean tens of billions of dollars of foreign

00:01:28.400 capital to speculate and to drive their economy. It's quite a sobering moment. What do you think?

00:01:37.560 You know, when you're talking about the capital, I mean, everyone starts their conversations when you

00:01:42.000 discuss China. Well, America is owned by China because they're the largest debt holder of American

00:01:48.660 debt with, you know, $1 trillion, where I think Japan is actually our largest debt holder. But we have

00:01:55.560 invested over the last 20 years trillions of dollars into the Chinese economy. And in the last couple

00:02:04.760 weeks where you see the issue with the Uyghurs and the vote in Congress where we only actually had one

00:02:10.780 dissenting vote, we have been able to show that there is unification on the Uyghur issue. But corporate America

00:02:21.800 got spooked because the Chinese government came in and told, you know, Intel this, and they backtracked, told

00:02:28.800 Walmart this, and they backtracked. Everyone that started to get hit. And those companies, those American

00:02:36.040 companies have massive investments that I think exceed the trillion dollars that the Chinese

00:02:42.920 government owns in American debt. Yeah, I think that the stranglehold they have on the United States

00:02:51.840 is too often overlooked by our so-called elites, whether they be in government, academia, business,

00:02:59.860 or finance. And the idea that somehow the United States doesn't have to be prudent, responsible,

00:03:10.020 cognizant of all that China is, is so outdated. And they don't appreciate, even though it's staring 0.99

00:03:18.220 all of us in the face, how dependent we are on China, whether it be for pharmaceuticals,

00:03:23.460 pharmaceutical ingredients, whether it be for clothing, whether it be for finished

00:03:27.240 electronics, computers, advanced computers, in point of fact. I think people have really

00:03:35.700 just turned a blind eye to the power that China holds over the United States right now. What do you

00:03:43.160 think? Well, I agree with you. It's, you know, we've lived in a generally peaceful time over the last 20

00:03:50.920 years in trade. So guys in the boardroom have looked at always shareholder value and increasing

00:03:58.220 profitability and lowest wage dictating where you're going to move supply chain. And we've now

00:04:04.860 find that the boardrooms, which they are unprepared to deal with, are no longer looking at what's going

00:04:13.560 on on low price labor, low price freight, you know, 11 day transit from Shanghai to LA port. Those are all

00:04:21.920 out the window. And geopolitical issues are what's going to be dictating the future over our companies

00:04:28.360 and what is going to dictate the new normal. And until they start to look upon how we get to this new

00:04:35.340 normal, we're, we're as consumers in America, we're beholden to an inefficient corporate supply chain

00:04:43.360 that's dictating from a boardroom. That's looking at the past and not looking at the future.

00:04:49.200 And a, and boardrooms that by the way, have shown themselves to be hostile to the U S federal

00:04:57.720 government, uh, and the policies, whether of Trump, uh, or, or, uh, even, uh, partially, uh, Obama in that

00:05:06.760 administration. But we have now a Republican party that has awakened to the fact that corporate America

00:05:14.380 in this country and wall street, uh, are absolutely aligned with China. Uh, they're aligned with open 0.84

00:05:22.460 borders. They are aligned with diminished American sovereignty. They're aligned with illegal immigration. 0.98

00:05:29.980 Uh, and they turn again, a blind eye to the collateral damage as a result, whether it be the

00:05:35.580 American middle-class or the hundreds of thousands of overdose deaths as a result of the drug traffic

00:05:44.300 across that Southern border. Uh, and by the way, crossing that Southern border, uh, the second largest

00:05:51.100 group of illegal immigrants are Chinese. Uh, this is, uh, this does not appear to me to be in any way,

00:05:58.140 an accident or a coincidence. This is part of a plan as the Chinese continue to buy a farmland in this 0.97

00:06:05.540 country, to buy whatever technology or, uh, advancement, uh, they can, they proceed. And right now

00:06:13.580 their investment in this country is enormous and their influence in this country is enormous.

00:06:19.240 You know, eminent domain is a word we should start to use when it comes to Chinese assets in America,

00:06:27.040 because we have to start to look at what our national security assets that we sold them for,

00:06:33.840 for boardroom gain and long-term laws. But that's one thing, the food issue Lou is a tremendous issue

00:06:42.640 because what China is doing right now and what they did, the proof is always in the pudding and their 0.77

00:06:47.920 behavior. What they've done with urea in stopping the export of urea to Canada and to Australia.

00:06:55.920 Urea is one of the main components of fertilizer. And so what they're trying to do is control the

00:07:02.040 mineral production of fertilizers, which dictates our production of food. And that's what leads to

00:07:08.680 the conflict that's going on right now between Algeria and Morocco. Sub-Saharan Africa, Sub-Saharan

00:07:18.120 Morocco has 75% of the world's reserve of phosphates and Algeria is the number three world recipient of

00:07:28.200 Chinese military equipment. And we are being baited by the Algerian by the Polisario to actually go in and

00:07:38.840 give the Sahara to the Algerians, which is actually giving a gift to the Chinese government. Now Trump,

00:07:48.440 on his last move on Friday, recognized the Sahara and actually supported it and issued an accord to put a

00:08:01.320 consulate down in the Sahara. Right now you've got guys like Senator Inhofe, who are trying to block the consulate from

00:08:12.600 being built in the Sahara. But what they don't see is 75% of our ability to produce food over generations

00:08:21.320 to come, we're going to hand that over to the Chinese government. So is Inhofe right in fighting it? Or was

00:08:29.000 Trump right in recognizing it? And I tend to believe that Trump was right in recognizing it.

00:08:34.920 Trump, in addition to that, looking at the new Middle East and trying to create alignments that are

00:08:44.120 rational and proportionate and equitable, in every turn he understood the threat posed by the Chinese 1.00

00:08:54.520 communists. He understood that Xi Jinping means to hold dominion over not only the Pacific and Southeast

00:09:04.680 Asia, but indeed to be the major, major power in all the world. It is insufficient to call what he is

00:09:15.640 trying to create a superpower. It will be the superpower if he succeeds, don't you think?

00:09:21.480 Yes. And you have to look, Lou, at what he did since COVID began. They took down in the first three months, over 800

00:09:32.920 crosses, shut down churches, attempted to shut down the 26 synagogues that are in China. They're imprisoning

00:09:43.880 the Uyghurs, Muslims, and whether it's from organ harvesting, re-education, they're making the Nazis look like 1.00

00:09:55.640 kindergarten teachers. What Trump saw is the way in Xi Jinping's desire to become emperor of the world.

00:10:06.600 And his goal as getting his power from the heavens was the way he was going to rule.

00:10:12.600 And if we have to look at what he did just in those five months that we went into COVID, he wants a godless world.

00:10:21.560 And a world run by the Chinese is going to be a far different world to wake up to than the world run by the United States of America. 0.99

00:10:31.560 And just ask the people of Hong Kong right now who are adjusting to a one system government. And that one system is obviously the Chinese Communist 0.91

00:10:45.720 system of government and their influence now, their total control of Hong Kong. This happened without so much as a peep

00:10:55.880 from Europe, from the United States. It's it is absolutely stunning to me, Jonathan, that the national

00:11:05.480 left wing corporate media doesn't even take cognizance of the the threats that are being that are imposed

00:11:13.720 now on Taiwan, the threats of invasion. I mean, it's raw rank and absolutely undisguised.

00:11:21.960 They are threatening invasion. They are threatening the United States itself. If it's so much as protests,

00:11:29.320 uh, the building of those artificial islands and any, any, uh, interference in their control of

00:11:37.400 navigation across those sea lanes, uh, that are critical to 70% of the world's trade, uh, on those, uh,

00:11:44.840 and the South, uh, South China sea, uh, your thoughts about just the lack of response, uh, on the part of

00:11:53.960 the United States, but also Europe. You know, we, we have to look at history to determine the future.

00:12:00.280 It's our only lesson. I know everyone wants to cancel history right now. It's in mode, it's in fashion,

00:12:06.520 but you, you just take the 1936 summer Olympics in Germany. IBM had sold the counting mission,

00:12:17.240 the X, sorry, they leased the counting machines that counted the Jews, uh, gypsies, Christians that 1.00

00:12:26.040 were put into the concentration camps. They didn't sell them because they thought they were going to have

00:12:31.080 a long run of, uh, milk in it for the money. You had Ford that was in there. You had all corporate

00:12:38.280 America that supported the 1936 summer Olympics by the world supporting the Olympics. It gave Hitler 0.93

00:12:47.560 the power and prestige of doing what he did. Had we backed out of the 1936 Olympics, had Europe backed

00:12:56.520 out, had we shown a line in the sand, a true line in the sand against what they were doing,

00:13:03.480 it would have had a definite different impact toward the future of World War II. What I'm fearful of

00:13:10.120 is as Xi Jinping comes out of this, the closing ceremonies at the end of February and walks into his

00:13:16.200 March 5th communist party meeting, which I think happens every twice, every, uh, 10 years or something,

00:13:22.440 or, you know, once every 10 years, the people's Congress meeting in Beijing, we are going to

00:13:29.000 bring a more emboldened, uh, powerful Xi Jinping. And we could have had a moment where the world

00:13:38.200 stood up and said, you know what, we don't support what you're doing to the Uyghurs. We don't support 1.00

00:13:43.000 what you're doing to the Christians in China. We don't support what you're doing in Hong Kong,

00:13:47.240 nor Taiwan, nor Ethiopia, nor Algeria, nor Iran, nor Afghanistan. We are on the other side of this,

00:13:55.480 but we're so concerned about getting toilet paper that we're throwing the rest out the window.

00:14:01.960 Yep. I think you're exactly right. And think about, uh, the, the posture of the United States.

00:14:08.520 Uh, president Biden has said that we won't send our diplomats, which is precisely the kind of, uh,

00:14:14.840 uh, psyops response you would expect from the left these days, uh, rather than substance to,

00:14:21.960 to use a ruse, a ploy like that, that disguises perhaps to most Americans, the fact that we are

00:14:29.880 sending a corporate America. We are sending, uh, those who want to, uh, go to China. We're sending our,

00:14:38.280 uh, our top financiers to China. Uh, they're going to all be there for the, uh,

00:14:44.280 the Olympics. And as you point out, the only thing missing will be those diplomats who will not be

00:14:50.840 missed by anyone. Uh, but guess what? NBC will be covering the Olympics for all the world to see.

00:15:01.080 And that will be the ultimate statement that we make in acquiescence, uh, and in compliance

00:15:08.600 to the communist Chinese party. It is an outrage. And as you say, we do have a moment here where

00:15:15.640 we could make a difference. And the difference we're making is not in the interest of the United

00:15:20.040 States or Western civilization. As you know, NBC, they're going to put production value behind this.

00:15:26.840 They're not going to go out and film the Uyghurs in camps being burnt up and gassed and reeducated. 0.84

00:15:33.320 They're not going to go, you know, out into dormitories and factories, and they're not going

00:15:38.520 to go show how people are being fed in these factories or these lockdowns, these extreme

00:15:42.600 lockdowns where people's doors are welded shut. They're going to show what they want to show for

00:15:48.840 production value. And the, the, the danger of all of that is that we will start to put forth what I

00:15:58.920 call the John Wayne effect of China. John Wayne, Charlie Chaplin made the world look at American

00:16:06.520 through a different lens. Now they've got NBC. That's going to make the world look at China through 0.97

00:16:12.120 a different lens and not a truthful lens. And there's where the danger lies. But, you know, to add to that,

00:16:18.600 that everything that's going on right now with COVID in China, and it's spread quickly,

00:16:27.080 may be that God will take care of shutting down the Olympics. If he didn't leave it to humanity,

00:16:33.560 they may actually have to shut it down. I mean, I think two days ago, China started turning back

00:16:38.440 American airplanes, because they called them full of COVID, and sent them back to America. So, you

00:16:44.440 know, it's, it, we're in an, a very precarious position where I think the big are looking to get

00:16:53.960 bigger with China. Oh, yeah. And the small are going to be put out of business. This, this supply

00:17:00.520 chain issue has really impacted independent and small retailers, and has benefited the major,

00:17:10.200 bigger retailers, the bigger retailers have grown significantly by leaps and bounds, and they've put

00:17:17.720 all of the small, you know, retailers out of business. So we're talking about big box stores, we're

00:17:23.560 talking about Amazon, we're talking about what is one of the largest, just, just our retail

00:17:30.440 businesses are the largest market for Chinese goods in the world. Well, I mean, you take Walmart alone

00:17:37.720 is what $590 billion, which equates the GDP of Michigan and Louisiana, and then throw in another

00:17:44.840 state or two, you know, you out of a $19 trillion economy, you know, you've got 500, almost $600 billion

00:17:53.080 in one company's hands. So that which accounts for 13% of the exports of China.

00:17:59.640 Yeah. And now, I had always been told that Walmart account was the third largest export market alone

00:18:08.920 for Chinese products. When you now look at, and that was before the surge and the market power of

00:18:17.480 Amazon, the United States now has to be easily the number one market, and number two, and number three,

00:18:25.800 as you break down the various sectors of our economy, it add to, you were talking about the debt

00:18:31.480 that's held by the Chinese, that's less worrisome to me than some others might consider appropriate,

00:18:38.280 because I think that is some, in some ways, a countervailing force to the fact that China is

00:18:45.960 holding hostages against America now. We were mentioning Walmart, Home Depot, all of the big

00:18:54.600 box stores bringing in all of those exports from China. We're utterly dependent upon. Big Pharma is

00:19:01.320 utterly dependent on China. But interestingly, we not only have that dependency, which makes us vulnerable,

00:19:08.680 but we have major corporations, whether it is Tesla, whether it is any one of the major companies,

00:19:18.280 Apple, certainly foremost amongst those in technology, that's actually held hostage by China, 0.94

00:19:25.720 because their production, their intellectual property is in the is in the hands of the communist

00:19:34.200 Chinese. And, and no one wants to acknowledge that reality. What do you think, Jonathan? 0.99

00:19:39.800 I mean, Trump tried so hard with TikTok to recognize the threat and try to explain to the American people

00:19:49.800 the threat that TikTok wasn't an app. TikTok wasn't some program that was going to tell you where your

00:19:58.200 favorite pastrami sandwich that your restaurant was. TikTok is an algorithm that can pick up every part of

00:20:09.400 your life in understanding your likes, your dislikes, what your impression by, how you're motivated, how you're

00:20:16.280 saddened, everything. And they could use deep fake to actually change the mindset of people.

00:20:24.280 10 people in a room could be impacted in 10 different ways off of TikTok. And Trump realized that it wasn't

00:20:33.560 about, you know, the pastrami sandwich. It was who and how they were going to message to change the thought

00:20:43.320 in direction and trajectory of the American public. And they're very successful at taking a long game.

00:20:50.520 And we keep losing it because we keep standing up for the boardroom

00:20:56.360 and instead of the people, and we need to start to stand up for Americans, citizens, world citizens,

00:21:04.120 and protecting world freedom as opposed to going down a road of, you know, all of us becoming Uyghurs.

00:21:14.520 Exactly. And I have to tell you, I am amused at the farcical limited minds of Hollywood as they try to

00:21:24.520 grapple with the woke, the woke movement in this country, talking, spewing utter nonsense that they,

00:21:33.400 as they do about politics, the, the neo-Marxists that make up the leadership of the Democratic Party,

00:21:41.880 and, and saying they just simply, we have to, you know, be something quite different than we are,

00:21:48.920 as they do business with the Chinese on an unprecedented level now, whether it's in production,

00:21:55.080 whether it is in the actual distribution of movies, they can, you know, for example, AMC

00:22:00.680 theaters, the largest theater chain in the United States is Chinese owned. And, and meanwhile, they're

00:22:08.200 selling out to Chinese communists who are defying everything that they say they stand for. These are

00:22:17.080 some of the most ignorant people in this country, those people running Hollywood right now, because 0.99

00:22:22.760 they are simply in it to get bigger, as you said, to make more money. The Chinese have more money, 1.00

00:22:29.080 and therefore the Chinese will win in Hollywood. But you're watching them take control of the content 1.00

00:22:34.920 of American movie making. We are watching. They dictate the actor. Absolutely. They dictate the

00:22:45.400 producer, director. And they scare the hell out of everyone. The Wall Street, those financiers, some of

00:22:54.440 the wealthiest people in the world, sit on Wall Street and are scared to death to come out against

00:23:00.680 anything that China does, any policy. We're talking about supply chain disruption. That isn't what we're

00:23:07.080 really talking about. What we're really talking about is the craven American business community,

00:23:13.480 corporate America, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Business Roundtable, who sent American jobs to the

00:23:20.200 cheapest foreign labor markets, played wage arbitrage with the future of millions of Americans. And guess what?

00:23:29.400 Those American workers, their families lost and lost big. And we are seeing this come home

00:23:36.520 as we are now dependent on factories and production facilities spread all over principally Asia

00:23:44.840 that are just not working because the Chinese also just happen to own the vast majority of container 0.98

00:23:53.560 ships bringing all of those goods to America. And that reality is escaping nearly everyone, it seems,

00:24:01.960 in Congress, in the Senate, and the White House. They see it as just a benign, competitive moment.

00:24:11.880 The White House and our State Department under the current administration is more concerned

00:24:21.320 with a green revolution. And will Xi Jinping commit to, you know, carbon neutral by 2060 or 2050? And,

00:24:33.960 oh yeah, he'll sign that. Okay, give him what he wants. Everything is being dictated by this green 1.00

00:24:40.360 initiative, which is unrealistic because they're not going to withstand an agreement. China has never 0.85

00:24:47.800 agreed. They didn't agree to phase one and live up to it. They have not agreed and committed to any of

00:24:53.240 their issues. But going back to the shipping containers, there's about 53,900 shipping containers

00:25:00.600 on the water right now. The Maritime Association made an agreement to change the engine types from bunker fuel

00:25:09.240 engine types to diesel and natural gas. And they were supposed to do this in 2020. Now, the 15 largest

00:25:16.520 container ships owned by the Chinese emit as much pollution as 780 million automobiles, which is nearly the population of

00:25:27.320 automobiles in the world. So even if you electrify all those 780 million cars and forget what coal

00:25:35.720 production is going to do to generate that electricity. But even if you electrify it, you've only taken care

00:25:41.880 of 15 container ships. There's 53,900 left. So we're heating our waters at the tune of four nuclear bombs

00:25:50.440 a day. And our icebergs aren't melting from the top. They're melting from the bottom. I call it the

00:25:56.840 Titanic effect. Hollywood created the Titanic movie. And you all learned one thing from watching Titanic,

00:26:04.680 is that 90% of the iceberg is underwater and 10% is above water. But if you open up your computer

00:26:12.280 and you look at any of the melting icebergs in the North Pole or the Arctic, they're crashing into

00:26:19.320 the water. That means the 90% has melted away. And why is it melted away over the last 20 years?

00:26:26.120 Because of globalization. And globalization is at risk right now. And their plan has to be changed.

00:26:36.760 You know, one other point that I wanted to add to what you said was, when we look at

00:26:42.920 our politicians, we consider the Israelis to be the most sophisticated on the intelligence side,

00:26:48.680 on the technology side and everything. They basically gave their port to the

00:26:59.320 Shanghai International Port Group for $1.7 billion. That was the cheapest investment

00:27:06.440 that China ever made in intelligence gathering. Because they now know every container, 0.68

00:27:13.400 what's included in it, what military, what technology, what they're shipping to which country they're

00:27:21.640 shipping it from, which is Israel, and to. And you're carrying, you know, more than 18,000 containers

00:27:31.240 out of that port. And these Israelis, who are the smartest in the intelligence game,

00:27:39.720 gave their black book to the Chinese for $1.7 billion. 1.00

00:27:47.320 It's stunning how stupid the Chinese make just about everybody in the world look. I frankly can't 1.00

00:27:54.520 think of that exception. So I'll say just about everybody, but I think it's everybody in the world.

00:28:01.800 They are outworking us, they're out thinking us, and they're out maneuvering us. And when I say us,

00:28:07.800 I'm talking about the United States, I'm talking about European nations, and I'm certainly talking

00:28:12.920 about Southeast Asia, the Middle East, and certainly Africa. It is stunning what they've managed to

00:28:20.440 achieve in the last 30 years. And they've done so because the West has become indolent, unimaginative,

00:28:27.960 and delusioned by their own

00:28:35.400 sense of a self that ceased to exist, oh, just about 30 years ago. We have not perceived threats

00:28:44.360 correctly. Our intelligence agencies don't seem to have a clue what they're doing. I have no idea

00:28:49.960 what they're spending money on, because they haven't been right about a single one of these

00:28:53.880 third country, third world country conflicts that we keep getting ourselves, have been getting ourselves

00:29:00.040 into. We don't prevail against Russia, we sanction them. And meanwhile, Vladimir Putin does exactly what

00:29:08.360 he wants. And president after president says, well, we've sanctioned them. So just think what would

00:29:13.720 happen if we sanctioned them again. But the answer is absolutely nothing. It is the Russians with advanced 0.92

00:29:19.560 hypersonic missiles now being tested, not the United States. It's China with advanced hypersonic missiles

00:29:26.600 being actually demonstrated with, you know, going around the entire world and then landing 25 miles

00:29:37.240 from a target. We are being outmaneuvered, outworked, out-fought every single day by the Chinese. 1.00

00:29:46.440 And I don't know how to respond to it. I really don't. Do you?

00:29:49.560 But, so it comes from a couple points, right? One is our universities. The Chinese have thousands

00:29:58.920 of university professors. We have 4,000 plus universities in the United States. I guarantee

00:30:04.520 you each university has at least one Chinese operative. The guy from Harvard was just not the first.

00:30:10.760 Yeah, the chairman of the chemistry department.

00:30:13.640 Department.

00:30:14.200 Department. Actually owned by the Chinese for crying out loud. 1.00

00:30:20.120 But in every university, there's more of them. A friend of mine is a chair of one of the UC,

00:30:27.560 bigger UC systems. And I spoke to him and I asked him, how many do you think are at UCLA? He says,

00:30:33.160 oh, they got at least 10 or 15. Yeah.

00:30:35.640 And so we have to first look at, and we're showing it last week, the Iranians made a threat. 0.98

00:30:44.200 To Brian Hook and parts of the administration to kill them over the killing of Qasem Soleimani.

00:30:53.000 And it ended up being a Princeton University professor that delivered that message on Twitter.

00:31:01.560 Right.

00:31:01.880 So we have a past ambassador to Germany from the regime, from an Iranian ambassador to Germany who

00:31:10.520 was accused of multiple assassinations, basically kicked out of Germany and given a job by Princeton

00:31:17.880 University to run a department. And he is the Trojan horse sitting at Princeton University,

00:31:24.920 educating our children and the minds and thought of our future generation. So we have to look at our

00:31:31.560 university educational system and see how much of it has been taken over now by the Iranians. 1.00

00:31:38.040 How many have they put in? How many Chinese professors are reporting? How many are teaching the narrative

00:31:45.240 of socialism, communism, and Marxism? And we have to look at that. The next thing that we have to look

00:31:53.800 really deeply at is this whole issue of the globalization part, you know, and the narrative.

00:32:01.480 Fareed Zakaria, this weekend on his show, said, said there were, China is managing COVID much better

00:32:10.360 than America. They have less than 500 deaths since they got COVID. Is he kidding?

00:32:17.000 No, that's a hell of it. He's not kidding. Fareed has been on that little perch of his at CNN,

00:32:24.520 spewing nonsense for decades now. And he goes unchallenged. It's insane. Absolutely insane.

00:32:33.320 What we tolerate in the way of the propagandist corporate owned media, whatever. No one came up

00:32:41.080 against it. No one came up against it. You know, you talked about Hollywood last night.

00:32:46.680 I had dinner with an actress in Hollywood and a group of people. And the conversation was human

00:32:56.120 trafficking. And when I, you know, talking about Cambodia, talking about all these, and when I said, 1.00

00:33:02.280 you know what, China's the largest proliferator of human trafficking, sex trafficking. They were all 0.90

00:33:11.080 shocked. It's not what we hear on CNN. And so when we look at these things going on…

00:33:18.600 By the way, you don't hear it. You don't hear it on Fox either. You don't hear it in the New York

00:33:24.520 Times or Washington Post. This is, I think, not a bipartisan. This is an absolute, expansive,

00:33:36.840 all-in, Americans have decided to ignore reality. I don't know if this is one of those mass

00:33:45.800 psychosis issues or events. But my God, it looks as though we are the intellectual zombies

00:33:56.200 inhabiting our universities, as you're pointing out, or Washington, D.C. We've got to do better and we've

00:34:06.920 got to energize ourselves to apply our talent and our minds and our will to these threats. And it's just

00:34:16.920 not happening. But this comes, you've been saying it for years, Lou, that at the base of all of this,

00:34:25.560 we have a law called the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. We're the only country in the world 0.72

00:34:31.720 to have a law similar to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which means that we have a line

00:34:37.800 in the sand when it comes to corruption. But yet, we have a system that has become far

00:34:44.680 more corrupt because a Chinese operative could move money into the United States and put it into the 0.71

00:34:53.800 hands and start playing it on the roulette table and covering all their numbers. So at every time that

00:34:59.400 that thing spins, the Chinese government wins because they own that guy or that woman.

00:35:06.440 How is it that Nancy Pelosi's husband is doing business in China? Her driver,

00:35:13.800 her confidant worked for the Chinese government for 20 years. And this guy's not in our jail. And she

00:35:22.680 says he's not been exposed to any secrets. This guy's had full access to her bedroom,

00:35:29.480 her nightstand, her phone calls, sitting in the car, driving her, listening to everything. For 20 years,

00:35:36.760 he was reporting back to the Communist Party. And we don't have him in jail. He's in China. This is

00:35:43.960 incredible. Don't forget good old Congressman Swalwell. I mean, they had a honeypot that

00:35:54.760 organized just for him. And they didn't do it because he was some sort of genius. They did because

00:36:01.080 he's an idiot. And they used him in God knows how many different ways. And he's walking around thinking 1.00

00:36:09.240 he's the cleverest fellow in Washington. By the way, he doesn't even realize what faint praise

00:36:14.920 that would be if indeed he were the cleverest fellow in Washington. I mean, honestly, in other

00:36:21.080 countries, we call that treason and people tend to be hung for it. You know, Pollard for less went to jail

00:36:31.080 for many, many years. And Swalwell's sitting on a committee. But yeah, leaving, leaving that aside,

00:36:39.160 I mean, we, what, what can we do to change? What can we do to, to, to act, to change the trajectory?

00:36:47.320 And, you know, I, I believe that we need to invest in our partners, our foreign allies that share

00:36:55.720 our values, our friends, the ones that Obama kicked them in the teeth in the Gulf, in North Africa.

00:37:04.360 We've left them. We've got administration after administration that have left our friends on the

00:37:09.320 sideline and played with them like checkers. And now they, we are going to lose them because the

00:37:16.120 Chinese are saying, Hey, we have a 10 year plan. You want to play with America. You got a two, four, 0.98

00:37:22.520 six, eight year plan. You could lose it all in two, four or six or eight with China invest with us.

00:37:28.920 And we are your friend forever, but they're playing three ball on fifth Avenue. You know,

00:37:35.160 they're playing that game, right? They're going to own the court. I've got another idea because I,

00:37:41.320 you know, I did a story that some credited with stopping Dubai, Dubai ports from buying up all of the

00:37:49.640 U S ports, uh, 20 years ago. Uh, we know that the, the Shanghai group, uh, is buying up ports all

00:37:58.040 over the Chinese, uh, the CCP is buying up ports worldwide, uh, and goes on. The first thing we need

00:38:06.840 to do is decide what we're doing with our capital and start talking about a policy, uh, for corporate

00:38:14.600 America, corporate America, corporate America right now runs this government runs our political system.

00:38:20.520 It's money decides who the candidates will be. And we've got to deal with the fact that we are a

00:38:26.920 country governed by oligarchs. If all of these billionaires were in Russia, they'd be oligarchs.

00:38:33.000 If all of these billionaires who are in Silicon Valley were, uh, in, uh, in Western Europe,

00:38:40.600 we would call them oligarchs. We refer to these billionaires respectfully and dutifully as, uh,

00:38:48.120 entrepreneurs, uh, immensely successful, uh, multi-billionaires, the richest of this or that

00:38:54.600 these are oligarchs and they are working for themselves and not almost without exception,

00:39:00.280 not for this country. We've got to deal with that openly and understand that they control

00:39:07.000 our media, which is after all our window onto our society. And it's now so distorted that it's,

00:39:16.120 it's unrecognizable to anyone who acknowledges truth.

00:39:19.800 A hundred percent. And I got some bad news for you because you're going to have to go back to work on

00:39:25.720 the Qatari thing because they've just set aside $10 billion to invest again in trying to buy us ports.

00:39:33.080 Um, and they're going to be coming out this year, trying, trying to buy some ports in America.

00:39:39.080 And the port system is our national security. We can't allow any foreign entity to own any of our 1.00

00:39:45.800 ports. But Jonathan, how can we not afford to build ships that will offload goods and, and take and ship

00:39:58.760 goods to other countries? Uh, we don't have those ships. We have so few flagged American vessels 0.64

00:40:06.040 that it's not even worth discussing. Meanwhile, the Chinese dominate, uh, that because I mean, 0.98

00:40:13.720 it's just because it gets a man. I sputter. Yeah. Because we're taxing these flags,

00:40:19.080 so they won't put them on American flags. We're taxing these companies and over-regulating

00:40:25.080 our industry that they can't build ships. We've, we've taken away the value of the job. We've taken

00:40:34.120 away the value, but you know, take a parent. I'm a parent. I've invested hundreds of thousands of

00:40:39.560 dollars into each one of my kids' educations. If they were in engineering and they spent their life

00:40:46.120 trying to develop some kind of process, which we've invested a lot of money behind only for the Chinese

00:40:54.840 to take it for free. Yeah. So we keep investing in creativity and innovation and everything. And

00:41:01.960 we're handing it like a hamburger on one of those plates from McDonald's to the Chinese for a dollar

00:41:09.080 25. Yeah. I mean, it's incredible. And until we decide that we have to change certain things

00:41:18.360 and, and Lou, you've been on this for many years, corruption is all forms. And until you take

00:41:26.600 corruption out, the Chinese are beating us because we have the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. And until 1.00

00:41:33.960 we go to defend that Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, and we start taking both sides to the table,

00:41:39.880 the left and the right, you know, to the table and taking them and proving that we've got to get

00:41:47.400 corruption out of our system and we've got to invest in factories, you know, this infrastructure

00:41:52.600 investment bill that they passed, 80% of it is going to go to China for things we don't even produce.

00:42:00.200 So it's a windfall. I mean, the Chinese, the CCP, when they're in their party, and they're all 1.00

00:42:06.120 clapping, they're like, can you believe what the American Congress just gave us? Infrastructure in

00:42:10.840 America. Well, think what the Federal Reserve gave China for crying out loud. They expand the,

00:42:17.720 the Federal Reserve expands their balance sheet by $8 trillion. And that money is flowing almost

00:42:24.680 directly into China. It's the level of stupidity at work in this country is so stunning, so disgusting, 1.00

00:42:34.760 so grotesque, that it, it is, it is just sickening to think that it has, that we have American citizens 1.00

00:42:44.360 who are living day to day, week to week on a paycheck, that isn't even that, even those paychecks 0.98

00:42:52.600 are now threatened by the fools who run corporate America. And make no mistake about it, folks. I am 0.98

00:42:59.640 saying to you, corporate America is corrupt to the bone. Anyone who decides to do business that is

00:43:06.760 against the interest of the United States is, is as Jonathan said, a traitor. So Jonathan with, with that, I

00:43:17.400 hope you'll come back soon. We're going to continue this conversation. I would love to have you back in

00:43:23.640 a week or two so that we can focus on the, the Chinese, the, the US Sino relationship, which is

00:43:34.920 decidedly one sided. Our custom, Jonathan is to give our guests the last word and you get the last word.

00:43:41.800 You know, Lou, I just want to thank you for what you do for all of us and protecting all of us and

00:43:50.440 people you don't even know who are not probably even aware of the situation that will affect them

00:43:57.320 in years to come. And I know that getting out in the front of the tent in the heat of the sun,

00:44:04.280 like Abraham did, is all oftentimes the most uncomfortable position that you'll ever put yourself in

00:44:10.120 and, and takes the most guts and, and courage. And, you know, I want to thank you for being the guy who gets

00:44:16.360 in front of the tent in the heat of the sun and, you know, really pushes the narrative forward so that

00:44:22.840 people don't forget. And we live in a 24 hour news cycle that, you know, if someone doesn't keep repeating

00:44:28.280 it, people tend to shove it under the carpet and move on. So for that, I thank you for being the American you are

00:44:35.240 and the person who's impacted a lot of us to continue to fight because we see you don't give up and we see

00:44:43.160 you're in the fight for good. So that's my last word. Well, those are very kind words and I thank you

00:44:49.400 for them, Jonathan. And I thank you for being in the public arena. And I know that you have a great deal to

00:44:55.480 lose. And in so doing, a businessman who will speak up forthrightly, honestly, is, is a gift to this,

00:45:06.760 this great country of ours. And we appreciate your involvement. And all of us in this country,

00:45:14.600 recommitting ourselves to truth, justice, and the American way. We try to every day here on the Great

00:45:22.200 America show. Thanks for being with us, Jonathan. I hope you'll be back soon. And we'll continue the

00:45:26.760 conversation, which has been absolutely from my side, absolutely delightful. Thank you, Jonathan.

00:45:33.480 Thank you. And coming up tomorrow, we'll be taking up the issue of the Coronavirus, the China virus,

00:45:40.920 the Wuhan virus, and the pandemic that has ensued over more now than two years. We'll be talking with

00:45:48.120 Dr. Robert Malone, noted virologist, in fact, one of the authors, if not the inventor of the MRNA vaccine

00:45:57.880 itself. He has very strongly held opinions based on knowledge, based on his understanding of these

00:46:05.560 viruses, and the public health response to this point. So join us for that. The questions amongst

00:46:12.520 others that we'll be taking up, should you be vaccinating your young children? And should we

00:46:18.600 continue to have booster shots? And at what point do we acknowledge that the public health agencies in

00:46:25.560 this country do not have two years worth of knowledge after two years of experience with this

00:46:32.760 deadly virus? Please join us here tomorrow, Dr. Robert Malone, our special guest. You don't

00:46:38.200 want to miss it. Thanks for being with us. We'll see you then. Until then, God bless you.

00:46:44.040 Join us again tomorrow for the Great America Podcast. Stay in the fight. Truth,

00:46:48.680 justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

The Great America Show - January 24, 2022

EMPEROR XI AND GLOBAL CHINESE DOMINION

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