The Great America Show - FBI DIRECTORS MUELLER & COMEY ALLOWED THE DOJ TO CO-OPT THE FBI & IMPOSE THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA AND WEAPONIZE THE AGENCY

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:03.820 I'm Lou Dobbs, and we fight for truth, justice, and the American way here every day.

00:00:10.440 Glad to have you with us, and let's get to it.

00:00:13.040 I can't tell you the number of folks who've said to me recently that they don't recognize

00:00:18.320 the country that they grew up in, and they weren't hailing America's progress and advancement,

00:00:24.100 I assure you.

00:00:25.300 They were worrying over our America.

00:00:27.760 I couldn't argue with any of them.

00:00:29.680 We've changed a lot as a nation over the past 60 years or so, haven't we?

00:00:34.020 We've come a long ways from then to now.

00:00:37.180 When I was a kid, and I'll admit that was a long, long time ago, I liked going to the

00:00:42.320 barber shop in a small farming town in southern Idaho where I grew up.

00:00:47.120 I'd get there a little early, just to listen to the customers talking, and I was in awe

00:00:53.100 of most of them, and I loved to listen to their stories and the wit and wisdom of those older

00:00:58.440 folks.

00:00:58.840 They were mostly farmers, ranchers, shop owners, sheriffs, deputies, working guys, salesmen,

00:01:04.960 teachers, and all sorts.

00:01:06.820 And I can only imagine what they would be saying if they could see their country now.

00:01:11.940 The only thing they cussed more than the Soviet Union was high taxes and bad weather, and the 0.98

00:01:18.500 fools who let the commies send up a satellite before the United States could in late 1957. 0.95

00:01:24.040 Yes, I still remember that. 0.99

00:01:26.920 Come to think of it, they weren't too happy that their favored president, President Eisenhower,

00:01:33.060 had lied about the downing of a U.S. spy plane, a U-2.

00:01:36.700 That was in 1960.

00:01:38.540 And we were about to get a president.

00:01:40.520 Most of those fellows would criticize even more.

00:01:43.560 First, they thought President Kennedy had stolen the 1960 election.

00:01:48.720 Funny business, they said, with labor unions, West Virginia, and Cook County.

00:01:53.880 Just in case you're thinking we have only recently had a problem with elections.

00:01:58.780 From the beginning, too much went wrong for JFK in quick order.

00:02:02.620 A few months after Kennedy was sworn in, my barbershop mentors were as heated as I'd ever seen.

00:02:09.820 Kennedy, they said, bungled the invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs.

00:02:14.040 It was a disaster, and a couple months after that, another disaster, maybe because of the

00:02:19.720 Bay of Pigs fiasco.

00:02:21.760 Soviet President Nikita Khrushchev ordered the withdrawal of the Allies from Berlin.

00:02:26.560 And the Cold War raged as the East Germans built a wall around East Berlin.

00:02:32.620 Things weren't getting easier for President Kennedy.

00:02:36.000 The Cuban Missile Crisis came a year later.

00:02:39.120 And no matter what some of the newspapers of the day did, which is hail Kennedy as a hero,

00:02:45.440 a group of men in that little barbershop in Rupert, Idaho, blamed the crisis on Kennedy's

00:02:51.160 weakness.

00:02:51.980 And they weren't about to change their mind, no matter how it ended.

00:02:55.680 They even supposed Kennedy had traded our missiles overseas, in Turkey, to resolve that crisis.

00:03:03.320 We would find out later that they were right about that deal.

00:03:07.780 I wouldn't want those men I looked up to so long ago to have to see what's become of

00:03:12.420 their country.

00:03:13.460 The point is, I suppose, the country started slipping away from all that most expected America

00:03:19.380 to be long ago.

00:03:21.000 The late 50s.

00:03:22.160 The 60s.

00:03:22.900 A great nation has reeled from a mad war to one crazed conflict to another in the years

00:03:29.580 since.

00:03:30.300 We all have enough to worry over, plenty about our kids and our grandkids.

00:03:34.600 And one of the few things that most Americans can agree on is that America isn't the same

00:03:39.860 country as the one we grew up in.

00:03:41.840 And that one way or another, we're likely the ones to blame for all that it is now who

00:03:48.140 let too much of the bad win too many fights against the good over the years.

00:03:53.520 And there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that we are living in an America now divided

00:03:59.000 by good versus evil.

00:04:00.940 And to many of us, it seems good is running in second place.

00:04:05.840 About half the country thinks the 2020 and 2022 elections were rigged.

00:04:11.200 Most of the country, about 70% of us, say the country's headed in the wrong direction.

00:04:16.740 And most say that President Biden should take a cognitive test.

00:04:20.800 And I haven't seen a single poll that asked the question, are you afraid of your government?

00:04:26.300 Did you ever think you'd see a time when the FBI and Justice Department had so obviously

00:04:31.820 tried to frame a president of the United States and then made him the target of their political

00:04:38.260 persecution for what is now seven years and that they'd get away with it?

00:04:44.540 To this point, they have.

00:04:46.500 But they are now known dirty cops and tools of the radical Marxist Dems and the deep state.

00:04:53.800 Our guest today is former assistant director of the FBI, Chris Swecker.

00:04:59.740 He was in the FBI for almost a quarter century, and he practices law now in Charlotte, North Carolina.

00:05:05.700 Chris, great to have you with us.

00:05:07.460 Thanks for being here.

00:05:09.000 The FBI and Justice Department are wracked with political corruption.

00:05:13.340 What happened to this organization that was once storied?

00:05:17.740 Highly respected.

00:05:19.300 Yeah, it's a sad story, actually.

00:05:21.180 And it kind of crept up on us, those of us that have loved the FBI and served in the FBI.

00:05:26.940 But I think what happened started under Robert Mueller when I was the head of the criminal division

00:05:32.020 and ultimately the acting executive assistant director.

00:05:36.300 He was fighting that battle after 9-11 of trying to keep the FBI as one agency.

00:05:42.940 There was a big movement afoot after the 9-11 hearings and the 9-11 report and the WMB commission to split us into an MI5 and an MI6 type thing

00:05:53.780 or CSIS and RCMP as they have up in Canada.

00:05:58.280 And so he was fighting that fight, and I admired what he was doing.

00:06:01.200 He was very, you know, in my opinion, making some good moves here and there.

00:06:07.080 But the move that he initiated, which I think carried through Comey and accelerated through Comey and Ray,

00:06:14.040 was he started to parachute in people from outside the FBI, primarily from the Department of Justice,

00:06:20.760 and stick them in very influential positions in the FBI and expand the bureaucracy inside the FBI so that it was a top-heavy organization.

00:06:29.660 Louis Free had done just the opposite.

00:06:31.200 He had sent agents back to the field and tried to lighten up headquarters and have the field,

00:06:37.060 the experienced caseworkers out there, investigators, journeyman-level agents running investigations.

00:06:43.720 So in comes a bunch of Department of Justice silk-stocking lawyers who make a living out of moving in

00:06:51.340 and out of the Department of Justice, back to the law firm, come back in, burnishing their credentials,

00:06:57.320 developing political connections.

00:07:00.100 And we started to see under Comey, and of course Bob Mueller and Jim Comey are both from the Department of Justice

00:07:07.340 and big law firms.

00:07:09.860 So under Comey, it becomes almost lock, stock, and barrel.

00:07:13.140 Again, more positions created, more senior executive service positions created,

00:07:19.200 and all, you know, instead of promoting agents up through the ranks into the important positions,

00:07:24.960 we started to see more and more Department of Justice people coming in and filling these positions.

00:07:30.180 And with them comes all their political connections, all their ambitions, their big resume,

00:07:37.300 and their intent to burnish those credentials and then go back out into the private sector.

00:07:42.140 So they don't want to make anybody, they don't make any waves,

00:07:44.820 and they go along with other members of that club, if you will.

00:07:49.080 So I'll sum it up in a nutshell.

00:07:50.980 It just continued under Chris Wray.

00:07:53.400 And so what we see now are political ideologues now ensconced in some of the top positions in the FBI,

00:08:00.960 and then you have a director who's pretty much part of the club,

00:08:05.180 willing to go along to get along,

00:08:07.060 and allowing these people to work their political angles,

00:08:11.240 instead of sticking to the knitting of the FBI,

00:08:14.540 which is counterterrorism, counterintelligence, organized crime,

00:08:19.020 major white-collar crimes, civil rights,

00:08:21.340 all the things that made the FBI the premier agency in the world.

00:08:26.820 So that's a long windup, Lou.

00:08:28.800 I'm sorry about the long answer,

00:08:30.020 but I think it's been 10 years in coming.

00:08:33.340 It's an important answer,

00:08:36.320 and I appreciate you giving us your perspective.

00:08:40.440 The FBI, to go to the earliest point you made,

00:08:45.180 dividing the FBI up into a domestic and foreign operation,

00:08:51.160 foreign intelligence operation,

00:08:52.020 it really is the point at which the FBI, it seems to me at least, went off the rails.

00:09:00.500 And we know that the surveillance,

00:09:03.040 and correct me if I'm wrong on any point,

00:09:05.380 but the FBI gets its information from the NSA,

00:09:10.600 its surveillance information for national security purposes.

00:09:13.020 That information obviously contains domestic evidence as well, surveillance.

00:09:23.000 And then it has to be just too convenient for the world's most,

00:09:29.500 at one point, the world's most respected law enforcement agency

00:09:33.560 now has access to information that, frankly, it should not have.

00:09:38.420 And when you politicize it, as you described it,

00:09:43.840 it's a witch's hell brew, isn't it?

00:09:49.880 It is.

00:09:51.360 And there's some nuances here.

00:09:53.920 When you look at the FBI's counterintelligence mission,

00:09:57.820 I mean, they're supposed to be the spy catchers.

00:10:00.340 The CIA are supposed to be the spies.

00:10:02.860 And the NSA kind of just collects information out there

00:10:06.200 in technical type information.

00:10:09.400 So, you know, what we see now is the FBI wants,

00:10:14.340 they seem to want to really concentrate on domestic terrorism.

00:10:19.280 And they get very close to the First Amendment

00:10:25.440 and infringing on the First Amendment.

00:10:27.860 I won't even say close.

00:10:29.080 I think they've actually crossed that line.

00:10:31.500 And that's what happened back in the old days.

00:10:33.540 It wasn't so much, you know, under the Church Committee,

00:10:35.480 it wasn't so much the counterintelligence or the domestic terrorism type information.

00:10:41.760 I'm sorry.

00:10:42.600 It wasn't so much the counterintelligence mission

00:10:44.860 as it was the domestic security situation

00:10:48.680 that got the FBI in trouble,

00:10:50.400 where they started spying on U.S. citizens willy-nilly.

00:10:54.160 And they got their wings clipped,

00:10:55.680 and they had some very specific laws passed

00:10:58.140 to make sure that they weren't able to do that.

00:11:00.780 They found ways around it now, I think.

00:11:03.480 And, you know, under the rubric of industry outreach,

00:11:08.540 which is something that we set up even during my time

00:11:11.840 to get with industry and help them with the mission of counterintelligence

00:11:19.000 because most of the technology that our adversaries want to get their hands on

00:11:25.780 is in the private sector, really.

00:11:27.100 And you need their help in protecting that information.

00:11:30.160 What you don't need their help from is suppressing First Amendment rights

00:11:34.720 and the right to assemble and speak your opinion

00:11:38.080 and just simply spying on businesses and U.S. citizens

00:11:42.780 because you don't like what they say in their viewpoint.

00:11:45.220 And that seems to be where we've gone.

00:11:48.460 As you say, the First Amendment,

00:11:51.980 we learn now about the relationship

00:11:55.320 in which the FBI is actually telling Twitter what to do.

00:12:00.140 They are demanding that certain citizens be denied their rights,

00:12:05.420 their freedom of speech.

00:12:06.560 It is, and of course, that's true across all, not all,

00:12:11.700 but nearly all social media platforms.

00:12:15.360 It's happening with legacy media,

00:12:18.020 that is corporate-owned, big news, big media.

00:12:23.140 We are watching this country.

00:12:25.500 We are now, de facto, a surveillance police state.

00:12:31.200 And it's really that stark.

00:12:33.640 It is that straightforward.

00:12:35.220 And the FBI is a huge part of it, isn't it?

00:12:40.720 They've allowed themselves to become that.

00:12:43.220 You know, what they've allowed themselves to do

00:12:45.680 is to have the Department of Justice,

00:12:48.240 which has about 30 political appointees in it,

00:12:51.560 co-opt the FBI and impose their agenda,

00:12:57.460 and which by extension is really the administration's agenda,

00:13:00.840 into a law enforcement agency and weaponizing them.

00:13:05.900 So, and I don't want to sound like a political partisan here,

00:13:10.080 but it seems to be completely focused

00:13:13.120 on anyone to the right side of the political spectrum,

00:13:17.480 as opposed to the left side.

00:13:19.200 I mean, they talk about, really,

00:13:21.120 there's only left-wing domestic terrorists,

00:13:23.460 as if there were only left-wing domestic, 0.86

00:13:25.220 I mean, right-wing domestic terrorists,

00:13:27.240 when in fact there are domestic terrorists

00:13:28.720 on both ends of the political spectrum

00:13:30.460 and wingnuts on both ends of the political spectrum. 0.98

00:13:33.520 Parents in schools trying to look out for their children

00:13:37.180 and make sure that the schools are operating

00:13:39.260 in their best interests are not terrorists.

00:13:42.100 You know, in the summer of love,

00:13:43.640 there was more domestic terrorism going on in our cities

00:13:46.460 than we've seen since the 60s.

00:13:48.600 And yet it's essentially ignored because of May 6th,

00:13:52.400 you know, January 6th.

00:13:54.400 So, and then of course, as you brought up, Lou,

00:13:57.280 the Twitter and trying to control the, you know,

00:14:01.680 the social media posts that go out and impose on that.

00:14:05.940 I mean, none of that that I've read

00:14:08.920 had any true nexus to Russian disinformation.

00:14:14.080 They, you know, they were just suppressing free speech

00:14:16.240 is what they were doing.

00:14:17.640 And I cannot believe,

00:14:19.140 and my colleagues cannot believe

00:14:20.780 that it's come to that with the FBI,

00:14:23.000 but I think they've just been completely co-opted.

00:14:26.700 It has to be a strain

00:14:29.060 to try to deal with an FBI

00:14:31.740 that is now so different

00:14:33.200 than the one that you retired from

00:14:35.140 and for all of the other agents as well.

00:14:39.500 Because the agents that I've known over the years,

00:14:44.140 and it's a handful that I've known fairly well,

00:14:48.200 I mean, I would trust them, you know,

00:14:50.600 in any situation,

00:14:51.940 I trusted their judgment,

00:14:54.140 their values,

00:14:54.940 their fidelity to the Constitution,

00:14:59.000 and their concern and care

00:15:01.400 about American citizens and the nation.

00:15:03.920 And that was something

00:15:05.820 that they were very proud of.

00:15:08.460 And if there was ever an agency

00:15:11.220 that was in trouble,

00:15:12.340 the FBI was called in

00:15:13.640 because their integrity was impeccable.

00:15:17.060 It is now,

00:15:18.600 it's awful.

00:15:20.680 And when we say that this is about

00:15:22.580 all the folks they brought in

00:15:23.600 from the Department of Justice,

00:15:24.720 we now see FBI agents

00:15:27.120 in SWAT gear,

00:15:30.380 tactical gear,

00:15:31.700 showing up to make a white-collar arrest

00:15:34.580 of a 70-year-old

00:15:36.040 appalled by the name of Roger Stone,

00:15:38.960 for example,

00:15:40.220 and waking him up at 6 o'clock in the morning,

00:15:43.320 guns, you know,

00:15:44.400 muzzles in the air.

00:15:46.200 Or you see them kneeling,

00:15:48.000 you know,

00:15:49.160 and it's part of a protest.

00:15:52.840 And, you know,

00:15:53.940 when I went in,

00:15:56.100 I was surrounded,

00:15:57.080 my class and my colleagues,

00:15:59.020 I was surrounded by people

00:16:00.060 who were well-rounded,

00:16:02.540 they had a good education,

00:16:03.820 but they, you know,

00:16:04.460 their average age was about 31, 32.

00:16:06.560 They had life experiences.

00:16:08.080 They were CPAs, lawyers,

00:16:09.860 former military.

00:16:12.340 You know,

00:16:12.600 they had some,

00:16:14.440 many school teachers,

00:16:16.700 really well-rounded people

00:16:18.560 who went into the FBI

00:16:19.700 for the,

00:16:20.440 just to help people,

00:16:21.440 just to do,

00:16:23.640 to fight bad guys

00:16:24.840 and do good.

00:16:26.520 I hate to dumb it down,

00:16:27.960 but I saw people

00:16:29.700 that took huge pay cuts,

00:16:31.860 investment bankers

00:16:32.780 that took huge pay cuts

00:16:33.900 to go in the FBI.

00:16:34.820 And it's been like that,

00:16:36.500 or was like that,

00:16:37.320 right through 9-11

00:16:38.300 and a little bit beyond that.

00:16:40.260 But unfortunately,

00:16:41.680 I think they've changed

00:16:42.680 the workforce.

00:16:44.280 And I think now there's,

00:16:45.740 you know,

00:16:45.940 in the interest of

00:16:47.480 whatever agenda

00:16:49.720 the administration has,

00:16:51.560 it's a lot of Ivy Leaguers.

00:16:53.640 It's a lot of people who,

00:16:56.080 you know,

00:16:56.940 I hate to say it,

00:16:58.040 but in the name of

00:16:59.180 aggressive diversity,

00:17:01.720 have brought in people

00:17:02.820 that ordinarily

00:17:03.440 would not even qualify

00:17:04.720 and pass the test.

00:17:06.800 So I,

00:17:07.200 you know,

00:17:07.400 I hate to say it,

00:17:09.500 but the culture of the FBI

00:17:11.460 has changed dramatically.

00:17:13.440 And now that,

00:17:15.460 now that it's a,

00:17:16.580 it's run by a lot of people

00:17:18.960 who have sort of

00:17:19.880 a liberal bent,

00:17:20.740 and now you have workforce,

00:17:23.080 the workforce sort of

00:17:24.220 changing gradually over time.

00:17:26.940 It's an FBI

00:17:27.840 that I don't recognize.

00:17:29.880 Well,

00:17:30.580 I don't believe

00:17:31.360 most Americans recognize it.

00:17:33.240 An FBI

00:17:34.000 that is participating

00:17:36.220 in a frame-up

00:17:37.400 of a soon-to-be

00:17:39.420 national security advisor.

00:17:41.920 One of the first things,

00:17:42.960 two FBI agents

00:17:44.440 are interviewing

00:17:45.720 General Michael Flynn.

00:17:47.640 The frame begins

00:17:49.260 in August of 2016,

00:17:54.580 months before

00:17:55.520 President Trump is elected.

00:17:57.220 And then,

00:17:58.800 you know,

00:18:00.340 they frame him,

00:18:01.540 it becomes

00:18:02.200 a Russian hoax,

00:18:03.700 and we go from there

00:18:04.860 with the FBI

00:18:06.220 facilitating

00:18:07.320 a scurrilous,

00:18:10.040 scurrilous conspiracy

00:18:11.680 to overthrow a president.

00:18:13.480 And it went on

00:18:14.360 until it,

00:18:16.040 well,

00:18:16.360 it actually is

00:18:17.080 still going on

00:18:18.460 now in its seventh year

00:18:20.260 of the political persecution

00:18:21.300 of a president

00:18:22.080 in large measure

00:18:23.560 facilitated specifically

00:18:25.560 by the FBI

00:18:26.400 and overseen

00:18:27.260 by the Department

00:18:27.900 of Justice.

00:18:29.100 The intelligence agencies,

00:18:30.640 we now know,

00:18:31.620 were in it

00:18:32.520 up to their ears

00:18:33.500 and, in fact,

00:18:35.040 intervened in a

00:18:36.000 presidential election

00:18:37.460 in 2020

00:18:38.140 when William Barr,

00:18:39.600 the attorney general

00:18:40.420 himself,

00:18:41.420 would have intervened

00:18:42.120 to stop the lies

00:18:43.260 that he acknowledged

00:18:45.020 were coming from

00:18:46.300 the mouth

00:18:46.860 of former

00:18:47.480 vice president

00:18:48.200 at that point,

00:18:49.540 Joe Biden,

00:18:50.360 sitting on a debate,

00:18:51.340 standing on a debate stage,

00:18:53.300 lying through his teeth

00:18:54.320 about a laptop,

00:18:56.300 about the business

00:18:57.160 dealings of his son

00:18:58.200 and his own knowledge,

00:18:59.700 awareness,

00:19:00.360 and benefits received

00:19:01.680 from those dealings.

00:19:04.920 Yeah,

00:19:05.520 I mean,

00:19:05.720 starting with General Flynn,

00:19:07.320 as you mentioned,

00:19:08.020 that was egregious.

00:19:11.480 That was entrapment

00:19:12.640 at its worst,

00:19:13.240 and that came directly

00:19:14.020 from Jim Comey.

00:19:15.660 You know,

00:19:15.880 to go into

00:19:16.360 a presidential appointee

00:19:17.740 under the pretext

00:19:18.680 of a briefing,

00:19:19.340 but with the real goal

00:19:21.580 of trying to get him

00:19:22.540 to incriminate himself

00:19:23.680 in some fashion

00:19:24.600 for a violation

00:19:26.280 that we've never

00:19:26.880 prosecuted,

00:19:27.420 you know,

00:19:27.740 seldom or almost

00:19:29.980 never prosecuted,

00:19:31.840 and that's inexcusable.

00:19:34.820 And then you carry

00:19:36.040 through to the,

00:19:36.860 as you say,

00:19:37.420 the Russian hoax,

00:19:38.320 calling it a hoax.

00:19:40.160 You know,

00:19:40.440 you had all these people

00:19:41.440 with the intelligence

00:19:42.100 community,

00:19:42.700 including the FBI,

00:19:44.740 putting out that statement

00:19:45.900 that this was Russian

00:19:46.960 disinformation.

00:19:47.960 That was nothing

00:19:48.880 but a political statement

00:19:49.980 and untrue,

00:19:51.880 100% untrue.

00:19:53.100 And I think

00:19:53.540 what's bad about that

00:19:55.500 is the FBI knew it

00:19:57.380 because they had the laptop.

00:19:59.400 Right.

00:19:59.960 Well, they had,

00:20:00.740 when you say the laptop,

00:20:01.740 we have to decide it.

00:20:03.040 Was it Uma Abedin's laptop?

00:20:06.040 Was it,

00:20:06.660 you know,

00:20:07.720 go back,

00:20:08.740 there are a lot of,

00:20:09.340 there are a lot of laptops

00:20:10.600 that the FBI is sitting on,

00:20:12.860 it seems.

00:20:14.100 And Seth Rich's laptop,

00:20:15.820 we know they have now.

00:20:16.980 That's three,

00:20:19.040 we got three laptops

00:20:20.360 right there

00:20:20.840 and the FBI

00:20:21.500 is still sitting on them

00:20:23.860 and whatever evidence

00:20:24.900 they contain

00:20:25.620 and refusing to give them up.

00:20:28.500 Yeah,

00:20:29.120 that's,

00:20:29.800 I mean,

00:20:30.120 there's a story

00:20:31.020 behind that Abedin laptop.

00:20:33.420 The FBI,

00:20:34.320 FBI headquarters,

00:20:35.280 Andy McCabe

00:20:35.780 didn't want anything

00:20:36.460 to do with it

00:20:37.280 and the New York office

00:20:38.420 had to go straight

00:20:39.880 to the Department of Justice

00:20:41.040 and expose

00:20:41.680 what was going on

00:20:42.780 and force their hand

00:20:44.300 or they would have

00:20:44.800 sat on that laptop

00:20:45.680 with all those messages,

00:20:47.020 classified messages

00:20:47.840 that went from Uma 0.98

00:20:49.860 to her pedophile husband. 1.00

00:20:53.060 Absolutely. 0.99

00:20:54.960 And of course,

00:20:56.120 the Biden laptop

00:20:57.360 was in their hands

00:20:58.460 early on.

00:20:59.400 There was already

00:21:00.020 a money laundering investigation

00:21:01.340 because the file number

00:21:02.580 was on the receipt

00:21:03.880 that was given

00:21:04.560 to the computer repair company

00:21:06.020 and they knew darn well

00:21:08.320 that that was not

00:21:10.580 Russian disinformation

00:21:11.920 when they allowed

00:21:13.320 that statement

00:21:13.860 to go out.

00:21:14.400 Yeah,

00:21:15.920 and,

00:21:16.340 you know,

00:21:17.140 it's just,

00:21:19.320 at some point

00:21:20.140 you just say,

00:21:20.860 how bad can it get

00:21:22.560 and it's so bad

00:21:23.740 right now

00:21:24.340 that it's just

00:21:25.660 simply unthinkable.

00:21:27.180 And now we have

00:21:27.980 the Biden files,

00:21:29.380 the undocumented,

00:21:30.420 the unclassified,

00:21:32.780 excuse me,

00:21:33.840 the classified documents

00:21:35.580 that are swirling

00:21:38.380 around his Wilmington residence.

00:21:40.340 we find out

00:21:41.420 that some

00:21:42.260 were not

00:21:42.700 in the locked garage

00:21:43.840 even.

00:21:44.760 It looks like

00:21:45.760 a really badly

00:21:47.460 bungled 0.99

00:21:49.080 effort

00:21:50.380 to cover up

00:21:52.040 a federal crime.

00:21:55.780 Yeah,

00:21:56.680 that's,

00:21:58.580 again,

00:21:59.240 that just goes to the,

00:22:00.520 this is an FBI

00:22:01.400 I just don't recognize.

00:22:03.780 You know,

00:22:04.000 they've sat on,

00:22:04.680 they've sat on the Hunter Biden

00:22:06.220 investigation

00:22:07.560 for almost

00:22:08.340 four years now

00:22:09.240 and there's just

00:22:10.920 no investigation

00:22:11.660 that needs to take

00:22:12.600 that long,

00:22:13.400 particularly when

00:22:14.100 it's not that complex.

00:22:16.220 And then we see

00:22:16.820 where,

00:22:17.300 well,

00:22:18.360 we see where other people

00:22:19.040 have actually been

00:22:19.500 prosecuted on the same laws

00:22:20.740 that he's under

00:22:21.220 investigation for.

00:22:23.600 It's,

00:22:24.160 it's an extraordinary

00:22:24.940 time in which we live.

00:22:26.660 And,

00:22:27.280 the FBI

00:22:28.620 in this instance,

00:22:30.420 we have

00:22:31.380 the Secret Service

00:22:32.160 joining them.

00:22:33.500 Their first reflex

00:22:34.480 when asked about

00:22:35.840 visitor logs

00:22:36.560 was not to be

00:22:38.620 forthcoming,

00:22:39.480 but to Stonewall.

00:22:40.840 And now,

00:22:42.280 they have acceded

00:22:43.240 to the reality

00:22:44.180 that we all knew

00:22:45.500 was the real deal.

00:22:47.660 And that is,

00:22:48.640 they do know

00:22:49.380 the names

00:22:49.760 of every visitor.

00:22:50.760 And they are willing

00:22:51.860 to at least part

00:22:52.820 with some of those.

00:22:54.120 But the Secret Service

00:22:55.320 right now,

00:22:56.020 in my opinion,

00:22:56.800 is suspect

00:22:57.520 as well.

00:23:00.100 Well,

00:23:00.620 they've always been

00:23:01.180 very cozy

00:23:01.740 to their protectees.

00:23:05.440 You know,

00:23:06.060 what I'm curious

00:23:07.180 about,

00:23:07.600 and I think

00:23:07.880 this will be

00:23:08.360 important,

00:23:09.680 but nobody's

00:23:10.120 brought it up,

00:23:10.780 is video.

00:23:12.680 That house

00:23:13.620 is buttoned down

00:23:15.600 with security

00:23:16.260 and video,

00:23:17.380 even during the time

00:23:18.400 when Joe Biden

00:23:20.940 was not vice president.

00:23:22.700 You know,

00:23:22.900 all that surveillance

00:23:23.960 equipment stays.

00:23:25.220 They don't just

00:23:25.800 yank it out

00:23:26.480 when he's no longer

00:23:27.660 vice president.

00:23:28.780 And then,

00:23:29.340 of course,

00:23:29.660 it depends on

00:23:31.280 how long

00:23:31.680 the memory

00:23:32.400 is on,

00:23:33.840 or how much

00:23:34.180 they store.

00:23:35.340 But you could

00:23:35.780 go back

00:23:36.260 and review

00:23:36.660 the video

00:23:37.080 like they did

00:23:37.700 at Mar-a-Lago,

00:23:38.820 like they demanded

00:23:39.540 to do at Mar-a-Lago.

00:23:41.060 And you could

00:23:41.480 review that video

00:23:42.360 and it would

00:23:43.140 tell you quite a bit.

00:23:44.260 But I'm just curious

00:23:45.080 why nobody's

00:23:45.640 talking about that.

00:23:47.520 I think it's

00:23:49.020 the usual reason,

00:23:50.860 Chris.

00:23:51.440 They don't want

00:23:52.320 anyone else

00:23:53.920 to know

00:23:54.440 what story

00:23:55.680 it reveals.

00:23:56.940 I know

00:23:58.800 that

00:23:59.120 you are

00:24:00.400 like all

00:24:01.680 of us.

00:24:03.380 Some days

00:24:04.220 we're just

00:24:05.040 saying,

00:24:05.440 here we go

00:24:05.880 again

00:24:06.280 with all

00:24:07.260 of these

00:24:07.600 scandals.

00:24:08.660 It's your

00:24:09.500 former home,

00:24:11.980 the FBI,

00:24:12.800 and I know

00:24:13.120 that it's

00:24:13.660 got to be

00:24:13.960 painful for you.

00:24:14.980 We appreciate

00:24:15.440 you sharing

00:24:16.080 your thoughts

00:24:17.260 and thank

00:24:19.000 you for all

00:24:19.480 that you've

00:24:19.780 done for the

00:24:20.260 country.

00:24:21.220 Our policy

00:24:22.580 here is to

00:24:23.220 always give

00:24:23.860 our guests

00:24:24.740 the last

00:24:25.580 word.

00:24:26.420 So if you

00:24:26.740 will,

00:24:27.140 your concluding

00:24:28.000 thoughts.

00:24:30.040 Yeah,

00:24:30.620 thank you for

00:24:31.160 that,

00:24:31.520 Lou.

00:24:32.020 I did

00:24:33.020 spend 24

00:24:33.700 years in

00:24:34.120 the FBI

00:24:34.560 and I

00:24:36.280 did not

00:24:36.800 see one

00:24:38.320 example

00:24:39.220 of an

00:24:40.580 FBI agent

00:24:41.320 or an

00:24:41.600 FBI leader

00:24:42.400 trying to

00:24:43.460 politicize

00:24:44.120 something or

00:24:44.660 trying to

00:24:45.160 not just

00:24:45.880 follow the

00:24:46.420 factual

00:24:46.760 information

00:24:47.320 that we

00:24:47.620 were

00:24:47.760 developing.

00:24:48.980 And it

00:24:49.280 is sad.

00:24:49.820 I hear

00:24:50.040 from a lot

00:24:50.500 of former

00:24:50.920 colleagues

00:24:51.500 and they

00:24:52.620 are like

00:24:54.580 me.

00:24:55.020 I haven't

00:24:55.480 heard from

00:24:55.820 anybody who

00:24:56.440 disagrees

00:24:57.120 with our

00:24:57.640 conversation

00:24:58.260 today in

00:24:59.760 terms of

00:25:00.340 the ranks

00:25:01.420 of retired

00:25:01.960 FBI

00:25:02.340 executives

00:25:02.900 and even

00:25:04.220 very recent

00:25:05.500 retirees 0.94

00:25:06.260 and current

00:25:07.200 agents as

00:25:07.860 well.

00:25:08.880 Now, I'm

00:25:09.180 sure there

00:25:09.440 are people

00:25:09.680 inside the

00:25:10.120 FBI that

00:25:10.620 are okay

00:25:11.260 with what's

00:25:11.700 going on.

00:25:12.860 But let

00:25:13.280 me just

00:25:13.580 say I

00:25:14.480 admire the

00:25:15.620 men and

00:25:15.920 women of

00:25:16.260 the FBI,

00:25:16.840 the investigators

00:25:17.540 who worked

00:25:18.700 their cases

00:25:19.240 like they

00:25:19.720 did in

00:25:20.300 Idaho and

00:25:21.060 they broke

00:25:21.760 the case

00:25:22.180 in Idaho.

00:25:22.600 They work

00:25:24.520 cases every

00:25:25.200 day that

00:25:26.060 you don't

00:25:26.320 even hear

00:25:26.840 about because

00:25:27.740 these political

00:25:28.320 cases are

00:25:29.800 taking up all

00:25:31.300 the media and

00:25:32.540 the media

00:25:33.660 just captured

00:25:34.460 their attention.

00:25:36.260 But there are

00:25:36.840 hardworking men

00:25:37.580 and women in 0.95

00:25:38.020 the FBI and

00:25:39.320 I hear from

00:25:40.280 them and I

00:25:41.280 feel for them

00:25:42.020 and I hope

00:25:42.880 that we can

00:25:43.200 get back to

00:25:43.840 it being the

00:25:44.540 agency that

00:25:45.440 it was before.

00:25:46.760 It's going to

00:25:47.180 be very hard

00:25:47.960 to put the

00:25:48.760 toothpaste back

00:25:49.400 in the tube

00:25:49.860 here.

00:25:50.840 I think

00:25:51.300 they've

00:25:52.200 become woke

00:25:52.740 to the

00:25:53.260 point where

00:25:53.680 I don't

00:25:53.920 know whether

00:25:54.320 they can

00:25:55.100 be the

00:25:55.480 FBI any

00:25:56.540 longer.

00:25:58.120 I think

00:25:58.960 that's an

00:26:00.420 absolutely

00:26:01.320 correct point.

00:26:03.960 I don't

00:26:04.760 know.

00:26:05.240 I think we

00:26:05.700 may well,

00:26:06.360 like you,

00:26:07.020 have passed

00:26:07.700 the point

00:26:08.160 of reform.

00:26:09.900 There may

00:26:10.280 have to be

00:26:10.940 at some

00:26:12.420 point it's

00:26:12.940 almost impossible

00:26:13.820 to truly

00:26:15.060 consider.

00:26:17.080 But I

00:26:18.200 don't see a

00:26:18.940 way around

00:26:19.560 if we're

00:26:19.980 to ever

00:26:20.320 return this

00:26:21.020 nation to

00:26:21.620 its former

00:26:22.080 state and

00:26:23.440 integrity to

00:26:24.180 our government.

00:26:25.140 It seems to

00:26:25.860 me that we

00:26:26.480 have to start

00:26:27.080 anew and

00:26:28.600 that is

00:26:29.600 without the

00:26:30.120 FBI and

00:26:31.680 the Department

00:26:32.640 of Justice

00:26:33.140 has to be

00:26:33.840 reconsidered as

00:26:35.000 well, I

00:26:35.460 believe.

00:26:36.320 They need to

00:26:37.180 become a more

00:26:37.860 independent

00:26:38.320 agency.

00:26:39.340 You've got to

00:26:39.940 have laws and

00:26:41.640 regulations and

00:26:42.420 guardrails in

00:26:43.040 place, but

00:26:44.180 they can't be

00:26:44.980 controlled.

00:26:46.980 They shouldn't

00:26:47.380 be controlled by

00:26:48.180 a political

00:26:48.760 appointee who

00:26:50.220 is beholden to

00:26:51.180 the administration

00:26:52.460 because they

00:26:53.520 have shown no

00:26:54.160 reluctance to

00:26:55.060 impose their

00:26:55.620 political ideologies

00:26:56.800 on the law

00:26:58.500 enforcement agency

00:26:59.260 that we rely on

00:27:00.060 so much.

00:27:02.800 Absolutely.

00:27:04.100 Chris Wecker,

00:27:04.920 we thank you

00:27:05.360 very much for

00:27:05.940 being with us

00:27:06.480 here on the

00:27:07.200 Great America

00:27:07.820 Show.

00:27:08.360 We, again,

00:27:09.080 appreciate you

00:27:10.120 being with us

00:27:10.660 and we appreciate

00:27:11.360 all you've done

00:27:12.860 and do for this

00:27:13.840 great country.

00:27:14.620 Thanks so much.

00:27:15.560 God bless you.

00:27:16.220 Thank you.

00:27:16.480 Take care.

00:27:18.260 Thanks, everybody,

00:27:19.060 for being with us.

00:27:19.860 Please join us

00:27:20.500 here tomorrow.

00:27:22.040 Coming up, our

00:27:22.780 guests are

00:27:23.240 Congressman Ben

00:27:24.120 Klein, chair of

00:27:25.040 the Republican

00:27:25.580 Study Group and

00:27:26.540 head of its

00:27:27.160 Budget and

00:27:27.880 Spending Task

00:27:28.640 Force, member

00:27:29.760 of the powerful

00:27:30.760 House Appropriations

00:27:32.000 and Budget

00:27:32.840 Committees.

00:27:33.800 And just the

00:27:34.500 news, John

00:27:35.240 Solomon, Attorney

00:27:36.160 Kevin Evans,

00:27:37.620 Mike Davis, the

00:27:38.660 head of the

00:27:39.180 Article 3 Project,

00:27:40.900 and Congressman

00:27:41.480 Troy Nels.

00:27:43.120 Please join us

00:27:44.020 and fight for

00:27:45.200 truth, justice,

00:27:46.140 and the

00:27:46.740 American way.

00:27:48.020 God bless you,

00:27:49.160 and God bless

00:27:49.960 America.

The Great America Show - January 25, 2023

FBI DIRECTORS MUELLER & COMEY ALLOWED THE DOJ TO CO-OPT THE FBI & IMPOSE THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA AND WEAPONIZE THE AGENCY

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