The Great America Show - January 25, 2023


FBI DIRECTORS MUELLER & COMEY ALLOWED THE DOJ TO CO-OPT THE FBI & IMPOSE THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA AND WEAPONIZE THE AGENCY


Episode Stats

Length

27 minutes

Words per Minute

151.22641

Word Count

4,211

Sentence Count

230

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

When I was a kid, I liked going to the barber shop in a small farming town in southern Idaho where I grew up. The customers were mostly farmers, ranchers, shop owners, sheriffs, deputies, salesmen, teachers. And I can only imagine what they would be saying if they could see their country now.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.
00:00:03.820 I'm Lou Dobbs, and we fight for truth, justice, and the American way here every day.
00:00:10.440 Glad to have you with us, and let's get to it.
00:00:13.040 I can't tell you the number of folks who've said to me recently that they don't recognize
00:00:18.320 the country that they grew up in, and they weren't hailing America's progress and advancement,
00:00:24.100 I assure you.
00:00:25.300 They were worrying over our America.
00:00:27.760 I couldn't argue with any of them.
00:00:29.680 We've changed a lot as a nation over the past 60 years or so, haven't we?
00:00:34.020 We've come a long ways from then to now.
00:00:37.180 When I was a kid, and I'll admit that was a long, long time ago, I liked going to the
00:00:42.320 barber shop in a small farming town in southern Idaho where I grew up.
00:00:47.120 I'd get there a little early, just to listen to the customers talking, and I was in awe
00:00:53.100 of most of them, and I loved to listen to their stories and the wit and wisdom of those older
00:00:58.440 folks.
00:00:58.840 They were mostly farmers, ranchers, shop owners, sheriffs, deputies, working guys, salesmen,
00:01:04.960 teachers, and all sorts.
00:01:06.820 And I can only imagine what they would be saying if they could see their country now.
00:01:11.940 The only thing they cussed more than the Soviet Union was high taxes and bad weather, and the
00:01:18.500 fools who let the commies send up a satellite before the United States could in late 1957.
00:01:24.040 Yes, I still remember that.
00:01:26.920 Come to think of it, they weren't too happy that their favored president, President Eisenhower,
00:01:33.060 had lied about the downing of a U.S. spy plane, a U-2.
00:01:36.700 That was in 1960.
00:01:38.540 And we were about to get a president.
00:01:40.520 Most of those fellows would criticize even more.
00:01:43.560 First, they thought President Kennedy had stolen the 1960 election.
00:01:48.720 Funny business, they said, with labor unions, West Virginia, and Cook County.
00:01:53.880 Just in case you're thinking we have only recently had a problem with elections.
00:01:58.780 From the beginning, too much went wrong for JFK in quick order.
00:02:02.620 A few months after Kennedy was sworn in, my barbershop mentors were as heated as I'd ever seen.
00:02:09.820 Kennedy, they said, bungled the invasion of Cuba at the Bay of Pigs.
00:02:14.040 It was a disaster, and a couple months after that, another disaster, maybe because of the
00:02:19.720 Bay of Pigs fiasco.
00:02:21.760 Soviet President Nikita Khrushchev ordered the withdrawal of the Allies from Berlin.
00:02:26.560 And the Cold War raged as the East Germans built a wall around East Berlin.
00:02:32.620 Things weren't getting easier for President Kennedy.
00:02:36.000 The Cuban Missile Crisis came a year later.
00:02:39.120 And no matter what some of the newspapers of the day did, which is hail Kennedy as a hero,
00:02:45.440 a group of men in that little barbershop in Rupert, Idaho, blamed the crisis on Kennedy's
00:02:51.160 weakness.
00:02:51.980 And they weren't about to change their mind, no matter how it ended.
00:02:55.680 They even supposed Kennedy had traded our missiles overseas, in Turkey, to resolve that crisis.
00:03:03.320 We would find out later that they were right about that deal.
00:03:07.780 I wouldn't want those men I looked up to so long ago to have to see what's become of
00:03:12.420 their country.
00:03:13.460 The point is, I suppose, the country started slipping away from all that most expected America
00:03:19.380 to be long ago.
00:03:21.000 The late 50s.
00:03:22.160 The 60s.
00:03:22.900 A great nation has reeled from a mad war to one crazed conflict to another in the years
00:03:29.580 since.
00:03:30.300 We all have enough to worry over, plenty about our kids and our grandkids.
00:03:34.600 And one of the few things that most Americans can agree on is that America isn't the same
00:03:39.860 country as the one we grew up in.
00:03:41.840 And that one way or another, we're likely the ones to blame for all that it is now who
00:03:48.140 let too much of the bad win too many fights against the good over the years.
00:03:53.520 And there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that we are living in an America now divided
00:03:59.000 by good versus evil.
00:04:00.940 And to many of us, it seems good is running in second place.
00:04:05.840 About half the country thinks the 2020 and 2022 elections were rigged.
00:04:11.200 Most of the country, about 70% of us, say the country's headed in the wrong direction.
00:04:16.740 And most say that President Biden should take a cognitive test.
00:04:20.800 And I haven't seen a single poll that asked the question, are you afraid of your government?
00:04:26.300 Did you ever think you'd see a time when the FBI and Justice Department had so obviously
00:04:31.820 tried to frame a president of the United States and then made him the target of their political
00:04:38.260 persecution for what is now seven years and that they'd get away with it?
00:04:44.540 To this point, they have.
00:04:46.500 But they are now known dirty cops and tools of the radical Marxist Dems and the deep state.
00:04:53.800 Our guest today is former assistant director of the FBI, Chris Swecker.
00:04:59.740 He was in the FBI for almost a quarter century, and he practices law now in Charlotte, North Carolina.
00:05:05.700 Chris, great to have you with us.
00:05:07.460 Thanks for being here.
00:05:09.000 The FBI and Justice Department are wracked with political corruption.
00:05:13.340 What happened to this organization that was once storied?
00:05:17.740 Highly respected.
00:05:19.300 Yeah, it's a sad story, actually.
00:05:21.180 And it kind of crept up on us, those of us that have loved the FBI and served in the FBI.
00:05:26.940 But I think what happened started under Robert Mueller when I was the head of the criminal division
00:05:32.020 and ultimately the acting executive assistant director.
00:05:36.300 He was fighting that battle after 9-11 of trying to keep the FBI as one agency.
00:05:42.940 There was a big movement afoot after the 9-11 hearings and the 9-11 report and the WMB commission to split us into an MI5 and an MI6 type thing
00:05:53.780 or CSIS and RCMP as they have up in Canada.
00:05:58.280 And so he was fighting that fight, and I admired what he was doing.
00:06:01.200 He was very, you know, in my opinion, making some good moves here and there.
00:06:07.080 But the move that he initiated, which I think carried through Comey and accelerated through Comey and Ray,
00:06:14.040 was he started to parachute in people from outside the FBI, primarily from the Department of Justice,
00:06:20.760 and stick them in very influential positions in the FBI and expand the bureaucracy inside the FBI so that it was a top-heavy organization.
00:06:29.660 Louis Free had done just the opposite.
00:06:31.200 He had sent agents back to the field and tried to lighten up headquarters and have the field,
00:06:37.060 the experienced caseworkers out there, investigators, journeyman-level agents running investigations.
00:06:43.720 So in comes a bunch of Department of Justice silk-stocking lawyers who make a living out of moving in
00:06:51.340 and out of the Department of Justice, back to the law firm, come back in, burnishing their credentials,
00:06:57.320 developing political connections.
00:07:00.100 And we started to see under Comey, and of course Bob Mueller and Jim Comey are both from the Department of Justice
00:07:07.340 and big law firms.
00:07:09.860 So under Comey, it becomes almost lock, stock, and barrel.
00:07:13.140 Again, more positions created, more senior executive service positions created,
00:07:19.200 and all, you know, instead of promoting agents up through the ranks into the important positions,
00:07:24.960 we started to see more and more Department of Justice people coming in and filling these positions.
00:07:30.180 And with them comes all their political connections, all their ambitions, their big resume,
00:07:37.300 and their intent to burnish those credentials and then go back out into the private sector.
00:07:42.140 So they don't want to make anybody, they don't make any waves,
00:07:44.820 and they go along with other members of that club, if you will.
00:07:49.080 So I'll sum it up in a nutshell.
00:07:50.980 It just continued under Chris Wray.
00:07:53.400 And so what we see now are political ideologues now ensconced in some of the top positions in the FBI,
00:08:00.960 and then you have a director who's pretty much part of the club,
00:08:05.180 willing to go along to get along,
00:08:07.060 and allowing these people to work their political angles,
00:08:11.240 instead of sticking to the knitting of the FBI,
00:08:14.540 which is counterterrorism, counterintelligence, organized crime,
00:08:19.020 major white-collar crimes, civil rights,
00:08:21.340 all the things that made the FBI the premier agency in the world.
00:08:26.820 So that's a long windup, Lou.
00:08:28.800 I'm sorry about the long answer,
00:08:30.020 but I think it's been 10 years in coming.
00:08:33.340 It's an important answer,
00:08:36.320 and I appreciate you giving us your perspective.
00:08:40.440 The FBI, to go to the earliest point you made,
00:08:45.180 dividing the FBI up into a domestic and foreign operation,
00:08:51.160 foreign intelligence operation,
00:08:52.020 it really is the point at which the FBI, it seems to me at least, went off the rails.
00:09:00.500 And we know that the surveillance,
00:09:03.040 and correct me if I'm wrong on any point,
00:09:05.380 but the FBI gets its information from the NSA,
00:09:10.600 its surveillance information for national security purposes.
00:09:13.020 That information obviously contains domestic evidence as well, surveillance.
00:09:23.000 And then it has to be just too convenient for the world's most,
00:09:29.500 at one point, the world's most respected law enforcement agency
00:09:33.560 now has access to information that, frankly, it should not have.
00:09:38.420 And when you politicize it, as you described it,
00:09:43.840 it's a witch's hell brew, isn't it?
00:09:49.880 It is.
00:09:51.360 And there's some nuances here.
00:09:53.920 When you look at the FBI's counterintelligence mission,
00:09:57.820 I mean, they're supposed to be the spy catchers.
00:10:00.340 The CIA are supposed to be the spies.
00:10:02.860 And the NSA kind of just collects information out there
00:10:06.200 in technical type information.
00:10:09.400 So, you know, what we see now is the FBI wants,
00:10:14.340 they seem to want to really concentrate on domestic terrorism.
00:10:19.280 And they get very close to the First Amendment
00:10:25.440 and infringing on the First Amendment.
00:10:27.860 I won't even say close.
00:10:29.080 I think they've actually crossed that line.
00:10:31.500 And that's what happened back in the old days.
00:10:33.540 It wasn't so much, you know, under the Church Committee,
00:10:35.480 it wasn't so much the counterintelligence or the domestic terrorism type information.
00:10:41.760 I'm sorry.
00:10:42.600 It wasn't so much the counterintelligence mission
00:10:44.860 as it was the domestic security situation
00:10:48.680 that got the FBI in trouble,
00:10:50.400 where they started spying on U.S. citizens willy-nilly.
00:10:54.160 And they got their wings clipped,
00:10:55.680 and they had some very specific laws passed
00:10:58.140 to make sure that they weren't able to do that.
00:11:00.780 They found ways around it now, I think.
00:11:03.480 And, you know, under the rubric of industry outreach,
00:11:08.540 which is something that we set up even during my time
00:11:11.840 to get with industry and help them with the mission of counterintelligence
00:11:19.000 because most of the technology that our adversaries want to get their hands on
00:11:25.780 is in the private sector, really.
00:11:27.100 And you need their help in protecting that information.
00:11:30.160 What you don't need their help from is suppressing First Amendment rights
00:11:34.720 and the right to assemble and speak your opinion
00:11:38.080 and just simply spying on businesses and U.S. citizens
00:11:42.780 because you don't like what they say in their viewpoint.
00:11:45.220 And that seems to be where we've gone.
00:11:48.460 As you say, the First Amendment,
00:11:51.980 we learn now about the relationship
00:11:55.320 in which the FBI is actually telling Twitter what to do.
00:12:00.140 They are demanding that certain citizens be denied their rights,
00:12:05.420 their freedom of speech.
00:12:06.560 It is, and of course, that's true across all, not all,
00:12:11.700 but nearly all social media platforms.
00:12:15.360 It's happening with legacy media,
00:12:18.020 that is corporate-owned, big news, big media.
00:12:23.140 We are watching this country.
00:12:25.500 We are now, de facto, a surveillance police state.
00:12:31.200 And it's really that stark.
00:12:33.640 It is that straightforward.
00:12:35.220 And the FBI is a huge part of it, isn't it?
00:12:40.720 They've allowed themselves to become that.
00:12:43.220 You know, what they've allowed themselves to do
00:12:45.680 is to have the Department of Justice,
00:12:48.240 which has about 30 political appointees in it,
00:12:51.560 co-opt the FBI and impose their agenda,
00:12:57.460 and which by extension is really the administration's agenda,
00:13:00.840 into a law enforcement agency and weaponizing them.
00:13:05.900 So, and I don't want to sound like a political partisan here,
00:13:10.080 but it seems to be completely focused
00:13:13.120 on anyone to the right side of the political spectrum,
00:13:17.480 as opposed to the left side.
00:13:19.200 I mean, they talk about, really,
00:13:21.120 there's only left-wing domestic terrorists,
00:13:23.460 as if there were only left-wing domestic,
00:13:25.220 I mean, right-wing domestic terrorists,
00:13:27.240 when in fact there are domestic terrorists
00:13:28.720 on both ends of the political spectrum
00:13:30.460 and wingnuts on both ends of the political spectrum.
00:13:33.520 Parents in schools trying to look out for their children
00:13:37.180 and make sure that the schools are operating
00:13:39.260 in their best interests are not terrorists.
00:13:42.100 You know, in the summer of love,
00:13:43.640 there was more domestic terrorism going on in our cities
00:13:46.460 than we've seen since the 60s.
00:13:48.600 And yet it's essentially ignored because of May 6th,
00:13:52.400 you know, January 6th.
00:13:54.400 So, and then of course, as you brought up, Lou,
00:13:57.280 the Twitter and trying to control the, you know,
00:14:01.680 the social media posts that go out and impose on that.
00:14:05.940 I mean, none of that that I've read
00:14:08.920 had any true nexus to Russian disinformation.
00:14:14.080 They, you know, they were just suppressing free speech
00:14:16.240 is what they were doing.
00:14:17.640 And I cannot believe,
00:14:19.140 and my colleagues cannot believe
00:14:20.780 that it's come to that with the FBI,
00:14:23.000 but I think they've just been completely co-opted.
00:14:26.700 It has to be a strain
00:14:29.060 to try to deal with an FBI
00:14:31.740 that is now so different
00:14:33.200 than the one that you retired from
00:14:35.140 and for all of the other agents as well.
00:14:39.500 Because the agents that I've known over the years,
00:14:44.140 and it's a handful that I've known fairly well,
00:14:48.200 I mean, I would trust them, you know,
00:14:50.600 in any situation,
00:14:51.940 I trusted their judgment,
00:14:54.140 their values,
00:14:54.940 their fidelity to the Constitution,
00:14:59.000 and their concern and care
00:15:01.400 about American citizens and the nation.
00:15:03.920 And that was something
00:15:05.820 that they were very proud of.
00:15:08.460 And if there was ever an agency
00:15:11.220 that was in trouble,
00:15:12.340 the FBI was called in
00:15:13.640 because their integrity was impeccable.
00:15:17.060 It is now,
00:15:18.600 it's awful.
00:15:20.680 And when we say that this is about
00:15:22.580 all the folks they brought in
00:15:23.600 from the Department of Justice,
00:15:24.720 we now see FBI agents
00:15:27.120 in SWAT gear,
00:15:30.380 tactical gear,
00:15:31.700 showing up to make a white-collar arrest
00:15:34.580 of a 70-year-old
00:15:36.040 appalled by the name of Roger Stone,
00:15:38.960 for example,
00:15:40.220 and waking him up at 6 o'clock in the morning,
00:15:43.320 guns, you know,
00:15:44.400 muzzles in the air.
00:15:46.200 Or you see them kneeling,
00:15:48.000 you know,
00:15:49.160 and it's part of a protest.
00:15:52.840 And, you know,
00:15:53.940 when I went in,
00:15:56.100 I was surrounded,
00:15:57.080 my class and my colleagues,
00:15:59.020 I was surrounded by people
00:16:00.060 who were well-rounded,
00:16:02.540 they had a good education,
00:16:03.820 but they, you know,
00:16:04.460 their average age was about 31, 32.
00:16:06.560 They had life experiences.
00:16:08.080 They were CPAs, lawyers,
00:16:09.860 former military.
00:16:12.340 You know,
00:16:12.600 they had some,
00:16:14.440 many school teachers,
00:16:16.700 really well-rounded people
00:16:18.560 who went into the FBI
00:16:19.700 for the,
00:16:20.440 just to help people,
00:16:21.440 just to do,
00:16:23.640 to fight bad guys
00:16:24.840 and do good.
00:16:26.520 I hate to dumb it down,
00:16:27.960 but I saw people
00:16:29.700 that took huge pay cuts,
00:16:31.860 investment bankers
00:16:32.780 that took huge pay cuts
00:16:33.900 to go in the FBI.
00:16:34.820 And it's been like that,
00:16:36.500 or was like that,
00:16:37.320 right through 9-11
00:16:38.300 and a little bit beyond that.
00:16:40.260 But unfortunately,
00:16:41.680 I think they've changed
00:16:42.680 the workforce.
00:16:44.280 And I think now there's,
00:16:45.740 you know,
00:16:45.940 in the interest of
00:16:47.480 whatever agenda
00:16:49.720 the administration has,
00:16:51.560 it's a lot of Ivy Leaguers.
00:16:53.640 It's a lot of people who,
00:16:56.080 you know,
00:16:56.940 I hate to say it,
00:16:58.040 but in the name of
00:16:59.180 aggressive diversity,
00:17:01.720 have brought in people
00:17:02.820 that ordinarily
00:17:03.440 would not even qualify
00:17:04.720 and pass the test.
00:17:06.800 So I,
00:17:07.200 you know,
00:17:07.400 I hate to say it,
00:17:09.500 but the culture of the FBI
00:17:11.460 has changed dramatically.
00:17:13.440 And now that,
00:17:15.460 now that it's a,
00:17:16.580 it's run by a lot of people
00:17:18.960 who have sort of
00:17:19.880 a liberal bent,
00:17:20.740 and now you have workforce,
00:17:23.080 the workforce sort of
00:17:24.220 changing gradually over time.
00:17:26.940 It's an FBI
00:17:27.840 that I don't recognize.
00:17:29.880 Well,
00:17:30.580 I don't believe
00:17:31.360 most Americans recognize it.
00:17:33.240 An FBI
00:17:34.000 that is participating
00:17:36.220 in a frame-up
00:17:37.400 of a soon-to-be
00:17:39.420 national security advisor.
00:17:41.920 One of the first things,
00:17:42.960 two FBI agents
00:17:44.440 are interviewing
00:17:45.720 General Michael Flynn.
00:17:47.640 The frame begins
00:17:49.260 in August of 2016,
00:17:54.580 months before
00:17:55.520 President Trump is elected.
00:17:57.220 And then,
00:17:58.800 you know,
00:18:00.340 they frame him,
00:18:01.540 it becomes
00:18:02.200 a Russian hoax,
00:18:03.700 and we go from there
00:18:04.860 with the FBI
00:18:06.220 facilitating
00:18:07.320 a scurrilous,
00:18:10.040 scurrilous conspiracy
00:18:11.680 to overthrow a president.
00:18:13.480 And it went on
00:18:14.360 until it,
00:18:16.040 well,
00:18:16.360 it actually is
00:18:17.080 still going on
00:18:18.460 now in its seventh year
00:18:20.260 of the political persecution
00:18:21.300 of a president
00:18:22.080 in large measure
00:18:23.560 facilitated specifically
00:18:25.560 by the FBI
00:18:26.400 and overseen
00:18:27.260 by the Department
00:18:27.900 of Justice.
00:18:29.100 The intelligence agencies,
00:18:30.640 we now know,
00:18:31.620 were in it
00:18:32.520 up to their ears
00:18:33.500 and, in fact,
00:18:35.040 intervened in a
00:18:36.000 presidential election
00:18:37.460 in 2020
00:18:38.140 when William Barr,
00:18:39.600 the attorney general
00:18:40.420 himself,
00:18:41.420 would have intervened
00:18:42.120 to stop the lies
00:18:43.260 that he acknowledged
00:18:45.020 were coming from
00:18:46.300 the mouth
00:18:46.860 of former
00:18:47.480 vice president
00:18:48.200 at that point,
00:18:49.540 Joe Biden,
00:18:50.360 sitting on a debate,
00:18:51.340 standing on a debate stage,
00:18:53.300 lying through his teeth
00:18:54.320 about a laptop,
00:18:56.300 about the business
00:18:57.160 dealings of his son
00:18:58.200 and his own knowledge,
00:18:59.700 awareness,
00:19:00.360 and benefits received
00:19:01.680 from those dealings.
00:19:04.920 Yeah,
00:19:05.520 I mean,
00:19:05.720 starting with General Flynn,
00:19:07.320 as you mentioned,
00:19:08.020 that was egregious.
00:19:11.480 That was entrapment
00:19:12.640 at its worst,
00:19:13.240 and that came directly
00:19:14.020 from Jim Comey.
00:19:15.660 You know,
00:19:15.880 to go into
00:19:16.360 a presidential appointee
00:19:17.740 under the pretext
00:19:18.680 of a briefing,
00:19:19.340 but with the real goal
00:19:21.580 of trying to get him
00:19:22.540 to incriminate himself
00:19:23.680 in some fashion
00:19:24.600 for a violation
00:19:26.280 that we've never
00:19:26.880 prosecuted,
00:19:27.420 you know,
00:19:27.740 seldom or almost
00:19:29.980 never prosecuted,
00:19:31.840 and that's inexcusable.
00:19:34.820 And then you carry
00:19:36.040 through to the,
00:19:36.860 as you say,
00:19:37.420 the Russian hoax,
00:19:38.320 calling it a hoax.
00:19:40.160 You know,
00:19:40.440 you had all these people
00:19:41.440 with the intelligence
00:19:42.100 community,
00:19:42.700 including the FBI,
00:19:44.740 putting out that statement
00:19:45.900 that this was Russian
00:19:46.960 disinformation.
00:19:47.960 That was nothing
00:19:48.880 but a political statement
00:19:49.980 and untrue,
00:19:51.880 100% untrue.
00:19:53.100 And I think
00:19:53.540 what's bad about that
00:19:55.500 is the FBI knew it
00:19:57.380 because they had the laptop.
00:19:59.400 Right.
00:19:59.960 Well, they had,
00:20:00.740 when you say the laptop,
00:20:01.740 we have to decide it.
00:20:03.040 Was it Uma Abedin's laptop?
00:20:06.040 Was it,
00:20:06.660 you know,
00:20:07.720 go back,
00:20:08.740 there are a lot of,
00:20:09.340 there are a lot of laptops
00:20:10.600 that the FBI is sitting on,
00:20:12.860 it seems.
00:20:14.100 And Seth Rich's laptop,
00:20:15.820 we know they have now.
00:20:16.980 That's three,
00:20:19.040 we got three laptops
00:20:20.360 right there
00:20:20.840 and the FBI
00:20:21.500 is still sitting on them
00:20:23.860 and whatever evidence
00:20:24.900 they contain
00:20:25.620 and refusing to give them up.
00:20:28.500 Yeah,
00:20:29.120 that's,
00:20:29.800 I mean,
00:20:30.120 there's a story
00:20:31.020 behind that Abedin laptop.
00:20:33.420 The FBI,
00:20:34.320 FBI headquarters,
00:20:35.280 Andy McCabe
00:20:35.780 didn't want anything
00:20:36.460 to do with it
00:20:37.280 and the New York office
00:20:38.420 had to go straight
00:20:39.880 to the Department of Justice
00:20:41.040 and expose
00:20:41.680 what was going on
00:20:42.780 and force their hand
00:20:44.300 or they would have
00:20:44.800 sat on that laptop
00:20:45.680 with all those messages,
00:20:47.020 classified messages
00:20:47.840 that went from Uma
00:20:49.860 to her pedophile husband.
00:20:53.060 Absolutely.
00:20:54.960 And of course,
00:20:56.120 the Biden laptop
00:20:57.360 was in their hands
00:20:58.460 early on.
00:20:59.400 There was already
00:21:00.020 a money laundering investigation
00:21:01.340 because the file number
00:21:02.580 was on the receipt
00:21:03.880 that was given
00:21:04.560 to the computer repair company
00:21:06.020 and they knew darn well
00:21:08.320 that that was not
00:21:10.580 Russian disinformation
00:21:11.920 when they allowed
00:21:13.320 that statement
00:21:13.860 to go out.
00:21:14.400 Yeah,
00:21:15.920 and,
00:21:16.340 you know,
00:21:17.140 it's just,
00:21:19.320 at some point
00:21:20.140 you just say,
00:21:20.860 how bad can it get
00:21:22.560 and it's so bad
00:21:23.740 right now
00:21:24.340 that it's just
00:21:25.660 simply unthinkable.
00:21:27.180 And now we have
00:21:27.980 the Biden files,
00:21:29.380 the undocumented,
00:21:30.420 the unclassified,
00:21:32.780 excuse me,
00:21:33.840 the classified documents
00:21:35.580 that are swirling
00:21:38.380 around his Wilmington residence.
00:21:40.340 we find out
00:21:41.420 that some
00:21:42.260 were not
00:21:42.700 in the locked garage
00:21:43.840 even.
00:21:44.760 It looks like
00:21:45.760 a really badly
00:21:47.460 bungled
00:21:49.080 effort
00:21:50.380 to cover up
00:21:52.040 a federal crime.
00:21:55.780 Yeah,
00:21:56.680 that's,
00:21:58.580 again,
00:21:59.240 that just goes to the,
00:22:00.520 this is an FBI
00:22:01.400 I just don't recognize.
00:22:03.780 You know,
00:22:04.000 they've sat on,
00:22:04.680 they've sat on the Hunter Biden
00:22:06.220 investigation
00:22:07.560 for almost
00:22:08.340 four years now
00:22:09.240 and there's just
00:22:10.920 no investigation
00:22:11.660 that needs to take
00:22:12.600 that long,
00:22:13.400 particularly when
00:22:14.100 it's not that complex.
00:22:16.220 And then we see
00:22:16.820 where,
00:22:17.300 well,
00:22:18.360 we see where other people
00:22:19.040 have actually been
00:22:19.500 prosecuted on the same laws
00:22:20.740 that he's under
00:22:21.220 investigation for.
00:22:23.600 It's,
00:22:24.160 it's an extraordinary
00:22:24.940 time in which we live.
00:22:26.660 And,
00:22:27.280 the FBI
00:22:28.620 in this instance,
00:22:30.420 we have
00:22:31.380 the Secret Service
00:22:32.160 joining them.
00:22:33.500 Their first reflex
00:22:34.480 when asked about
00:22:35.840 visitor logs
00:22:36.560 was not to be
00:22:38.620 forthcoming,
00:22:39.480 but to Stonewall.
00:22:40.840 And now,
00:22:42.280 they have acceded
00:22:43.240 to the reality
00:22:44.180 that we all knew
00:22:45.500 was the real deal.
00:22:47.660 And that is,
00:22:48.640 they do know
00:22:49.380 the names
00:22:49.760 of every visitor.
00:22:50.760 And they are willing
00:22:51.860 to at least part
00:22:52.820 with some of those.
00:22:54.120 But the Secret Service
00:22:55.320 right now,
00:22:56.020 in my opinion,
00:22:56.800 is suspect
00:22:57.520 as well.
00:23:00.100 Well,
00:23:00.620 they've always been
00:23:01.180 very cozy
00:23:01.740 to their protectees.
00:23:05.440 You know,
00:23:06.060 what I'm curious
00:23:07.180 about,
00:23:07.600 and I think
00:23:07.880 this will be
00:23:08.360 important,
00:23:09.680 but nobody's
00:23:10.120 brought it up,
00:23:10.780 is video.
00:23:12.680 That house
00:23:13.620 is buttoned down
00:23:15.600 with security
00:23:16.260 and video,
00:23:17.380 even during the time
00:23:18.400 when Joe Biden
00:23:20.940 was not vice president.
00:23:22.700 You know,
00:23:22.900 all that surveillance
00:23:23.960 equipment stays.
00:23:25.220 They don't just
00:23:25.800 yank it out
00:23:26.480 when he's no longer
00:23:27.660 vice president.
00:23:28.780 And then,
00:23:29.340 of course,
00:23:29.660 it depends on
00:23:31.280 how long
00:23:31.680 the memory
00:23:32.400 is on,
00:23:33.840 or how much
00:23:34.180 they store.
00:23:35.340 But you could
00:23:35.780 go back
00:23:36.260 and review
00:23:36.660 the video
00:23:37.080 like they did
00:23:37.700 at Mar-a-Lago,
00:23:38.820 like they demanded
00:23:39.540 to do at Mar-a-Lago.
00:23:41.060 And you could
00:23:41.480 review that video
00:23:42.360 and it would
00:23:43.140 tell you quite a bit.
00:23:44.260 But I'm just curious
00:23:45.080 why nobody's
00:23:45.640 talking about that.
00:23:47.520 I think it's
00:23:49.020 the usual reason,
00:23:50.860 Chris.
00:23:51.440 They don't want
00:23:52.320 anyone else
00:23:53.920 to know
00:23:54.440 what story
00:23:55.680 it reveals.
00:23:56.940 I know
00:23:58.800 that
00:23:59.120 you are
00:24:00.400 like all
00:24:01.680 of us.
00:24:03.380 Some days
00:24:04.220 we're just
00:24:05.040 saying,
00:24:05.440 here we go
00:24:05.880 again
00:24:06.280 with all
00:24:07.260 of these
00:24:07.600 scandals.
00:24:08.660 It's your
00:24:09.500 former home,
00:24:11.980 the FBI,
00:24:12.800 and I know
00:24:13.120 that it's
00:24:13.660 got to be
00:24:13.960 painful for you.
00:24:14.980 We appreciate
00:24:15.440 you sharing
00:24:16.080 your thoughts
00:24:17.260 and thank
00:24:19.000 you for all
00:24:19.480 that you've
00:24:19.780 done for the
00:24:20.260 country.
00:24:21.220 Our policy
00:24:22.580 here is to
00:24:23.220 always give
00:24:23.860 our guests
00:24:24.740 the last
00:24:25.580 word.
00:24:26.420 So if you
00:24:26.740 will,
00:24:27.140 your concluding
00:24:28.000 thoughts.
00:24:30.040 Yeah,
00:24:30.620 thank you for
00:24:31.160 that,
00:24:31.520 Lou.
00:24:32.020 I did
00:24:33.020 spend 24
00:24:33.700 years in
00:24:34.120 the FBI
00:24:34.560 and I
00:24:36.280 did not
00:24:36.800 see one
00:24:38.320 example
00:24:39.220 of an
00:24:40.580 FBI agent
00:24:41.320 or an
00:24:41.600 FBI leader
00:24:42.400 trying to
00:24:43.460 politicize
00:24:44.120 something or
00:24:44.660 trying to
00:24:45.160 not just
00:24:45.880 follow the
00:24:46.420 factual
00:24:46.760 information
00:24:47.320 that we
00:24:47.620 were
00:24:47.760 developing.
00:24:48.980 And it
00:24:49.280 is sad.
00:24:49.820 I hear
00:24:50.040 from a lot
00:24:50.500 of former
00:24:50.920 colleagues
00:24:51.500 and they
00:24:52.620 are like
00:24:54.580 me.
00:24:55.020 I haven't
00:24:55.480 heard from
00:24:55.820 anybody who
00:24:56.440 disagrees
00:24:57.120 with our
00:24:57.640 conversation
00:24:58.260 today in
00:24:59.760 terms of
00:25:00.340 the ranks
00:25:01.420 of retired
00:25:01.960 FBI
00:25:02.340 executives
00:25:02.900 and even
00:25:04.220 very recent
00:25:05.500 retirees
00:25:06.260 and current
00:25:07.200 agents as
00:25:07.860 well.
00:25:08.880 Now, I'm
00:25:09.180 sure there
00:25:09.440 are people
00:25:09.680 inside the
00:25:10.120 FBI that
00:25:10.620 are okay
00:25:11.260 with what's
00:25:11.700 going on.
00:25:12.860 But let
00:25:13.280 me just
00:25:13.580 say I
00:25:14.480 admire the
00:25:15.620 men and
00:25:15.920 women of
00:25:16.260 the FBI,
00:25:16.840 the investigators
00:25:17.540 who worked
00:25:18.700 their cases
00:25:19.240 like they
00:25:19.720 did in
00:25:20.300 Idaho and
00:25:21.060 they broke
00:25:21.760 the case
00:25:22.180 in Idaho.
00:25:22.600 They work
00:25:24.520 cases every
00:25:25.200 day that
00:25:26.060 you don't
00:25:26.320 even hear
00:25:26.840 about because
00:25:27.740 these political
00:25:28.320 cases are
00:25:29.800 taking up all
00:25:31.300 the media and
00:25:32.540 the media
00:25:33.660 just captured
00:25:34.460 their attention.
00:25:36.260 But there are
00:25:36.840 hardworking men
00:25:37.580 and women in
00:25:38.020 the FBI and
00:25:39.320 I hear from
00:25:40.280 them and I
00:25:41.280 feel for them
00:25:42.020 and I hope
00:25:42.880 that we can
00:25:43.200 get back to
00:25:43.840 it being the
00:25:44.540 agency that
00:25:45.440 it was before.
00:25:46.760 It's going to
00:25:47.180 be very hard
00:25:47.960 to put the
00:25:48.760 toothpaste back
00:25:49.400 in the tube
00:25:49.860 here.
00:25:50.840 I think
00:25:51.300 they've
00:25:52.200 become woke
00:25:52.740 to the
00:25:53.260 point where
00:25:53.680 I don't
00:25:53.920 know whether
00:25:54.320 they can
00:25:55.100 be the
00:25:55.480 FBI any
00:25:56.540 longer.
00:25:58.120 I think
00:25:58.960 that's an
00:26:00.420 absolutely
00:26:01.320 correct point.
00:26:03.960 I don't
00:26:04.760 know.
00:26:05.240 I think we
00:26:05.700 may well,
00:26:06.360 like you,
00:26:07.020 have passed
00:26:07.700 the point
00:26:08.160 of reform.
00:26:09.900 There may
00:26:10.280 have to be
00:26:10.940 at some
00:26:12.420 point it's
00:26:12.940 almost impossible
00:26:13.820 to truly
00:26:15.060 consider.
00:26:17.080 But I
00:26:18.200 don't see a
00:26:18.940 way around
00:26:19.560 if we're
00:26:19.980 to ever
00:26:20.320 return this
00:26:21.020 nation to
00:26:21.620 its former
00:26:22.080 state and
00:26:23.440 integrity to
00:26:24.180 our government.
00:26:25.140 It seems to
00:26:25.860 me that we
00:26:26.480 have to start
00:26:27.080 anew and
00:26:28.600 that is
00:26:29.600 without the
00:26:30.120 FBI and
00:26:31.680 the Department
00:26:32.640 of Justice
00:26:33.140 has to be
00:26:33.840 reconsidered as
00:26:35.000 well, I
00:26:35.460 believe.
00:26:36.320 They need to
00:26:37.180 become a more
00:26:37.860 independent
00:26:38.320 agency.
00:26:39.340 You've got to
00:26:39.940 have laws and
00:26:41.640 regulations and
00:26:42.420 guardrails in
00:26:43.040 place, but
00:26:44.180 they can't be
00:26:44.980 controlled.
00:26:46.980 They shouldn't
00:26:47.380 be controlled by
00:26:48.180 a political
00:26:48.760 appointee who
00:26:50.220 is beholden to
00:26:51.180 the administration
00:26:52.460 because they
00:26:53.520 have shown no
00:26:54.160 reluctance to
00:26:55.060 impose their
00:26:55.620 political ideologies
00:26:56.800 on the law
00:26:58.500 enforcement agency
00:26:59.260 that we rely on
00:27:00.060 so much.
00:27:02.800 Absolutely.
00:27:04.100 Chris Wecker,
00:27:04.920 we thank you
00:27:05.360 very much for
00:27:05.940 being with us
00:27:06.480 here on the
00:27:07.200 Great America
00:27:07.820 Show.
00:27:08.360 We, again,
00:27:09.080 appreciate you
00:27:10.120 being with us
00:27:10.660 and we appreciate
00:27:11.360 all you've done
00:27:12.860 and do for this
00:27:13.840 great country.
00:27:14.620 Thanks so much.
00:27:15.560 God bless you.
00:27:16.220 Thank you.
00:27:16.480 Take care.
00:27:18.260 Thanks, everybody,
00:27:19.060 for being with us.
00:27:19.860 Please join us
00:27:20.500 here tomorrow.
00:27:22.040 Coming up, our
00:27:22.780 guests are
00:27:23.240 Congressman Ben
00:27:24.120 Klein, chair of
00:27:25.040 the Republican
00:27:25.580 Study Group and
00:27:26.540 head of its
00:27:27.160 Budget and
00:27:27.880 Spending Task
00:27:28.640 Force, member
00:27:29.760 of the powerful
00:27:30.760 House Appropriations
00:27:32.000 and Budget
00:27:32.840 Committees.
00:27:33.800 And just the
00:27:34.500 news, John
00:27:35.240 Solomon, Attorney
00:27:36.160 Kevin Evans,
00:27:37.620 Mike Davis, the
00:27:38.660 head of the
00:27:39.180 Article 3 Project,
00:27:40.900 and Congressman
00:27:41.480 Troy Nels.
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00:27:49.960 America.