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Special Counsel Robert Herr concluded that Joe Biden willfully kept, shared, and shared classified documents with his ghostwriter and others. But the corrupt special counsel concluded that Biden should not be charged because of his age and poor memory. This is the same man who's the leader of the free world, right?
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. It's great to have
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you with us. Special Counsel Robert Herr concluding his investigation of the Joe Biden retention
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of classified documents as vice president. The corrupt special counsel concluded that Biden
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willfully kept, shared classified memos with his ghostwriter and others, but Herr decided
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Biden shouldn't be charged. And why, you ask? Because the special counsel concluded that Biden's
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age and poor memory would create reasonable doubt for jurors. Think about that. This is the same man
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who's the leader of the free world, right? In the 345-page report, Herr wrote this, quote,
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It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him, by then a former president
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well into his 80s, of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness. He continued,
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Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him,
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as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory. End quote.
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Wow. Biden, at the time of that interview, apparently did not know if he was currently the
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president of the United States or if he was still the vice president. Think about what this means
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for the commander-in-chief. Scary. Biden reportedly was also unsure when his son Bo had died. This is
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all part of the special counsel's report and Joe Biden is still in the White House, still apparently
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in charge. But we know better. He's obviously not running the country in this current condition.
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Are you kidding me? The White House wants us to believe this man is running the country?
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Clearly, Biden is just exactly the impaired puppet I've said he was for the past two years. The
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Marxist Dems are running this puppet, and through him, they're running the country. And just down the
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block at the Supreme Court, the high court is hearing the case of Colorado trying to keep
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President Trump off their ballot in 2024. The Marxist Dems in Colorado citing the 14th Amendment saying
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President Trump should be kept off the ballot for causing an insurrection. Are you kidding me?
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Once again, are you kidding me? But Justice Brett Kavanaugh was highly skeptical of that claim
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because Kavanaugh said President Trump was never charged, not once, with inciting an insurrection.
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Some of the rhetoric of your position, I don't think it is your position, but some of the rhetoric of
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your position seems to suggest unless the states can do this, no one can prevent insurrectionists from
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holding federal office. But obviously, Congress has enacted statutes, including one still in effect,
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Section 2383 of Title 18 prohibits insurrection. It's a federal criminal statute. And if you're
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convicted of that, you are, it says, shall be disqualified from holding any office. And so there
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is a federal statute on the books, but President Trump has not been charged with that. So what are we to
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Two things, Your Honor. Section 2383 was initially enacted about six years before Section 3. It wasn't
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meant as implementing legislation related to Section 3. And I would emphasize that by the time that
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Section 3 was ratified, most Confederates had already received criminal pardon.
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I guess the question is a little bit different, which is, if the concern you have, which I understand,
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is that insurrectionists should not be able to hold federal office, there is a tool to ensure that
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that does not happen. Namely, federal prosecution of insurrectionists. And if convicted, Congress made
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clear you are automatically barred from holding a federal office.
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And Justice Clarence Thomas asked the Marxist Dem attorney representing Colorado if he could give the
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court just one, one example of why President Trump should be blocked by the 14th Amendment.
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The concern was that the former Confederate states would continue being bad actors. And the effort
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was to prevent them from doing this. And you're saying that, well, this also authorized states to
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disqualify candidates. So what I'm asking you for, if you are right, what are the examples?
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Well, Your Honor, the examples are states excluded many candidates for state office, individuals holding
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state offices. We have a number of published cases of states.
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I understand that. I understand the states controlling state elections and state positions.
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What we are talking about here are national candidates. I understand. You look at Foner or
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Foote, Shelby Foote or McPherson, they all talk about, of course, the conflict after the Civil War.
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And there were people who felt very strongly about retaliating against the South, the radical
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Republicans. But they did not think about authorizing the South to disqualify national
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candidates. And that's the argument you're making. And what I would like to know is, do you have any
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Many of those historians have filed briefs in our support in this case, making the point that
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the idea of the 14th Amendment was that both states and the federal government would ensure
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rights and that if states failed to do so, the federal government certainly would also step in.
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But I think the reason why there aren't examples of states doing this is an idiosyncratic one of the
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fact that elections worked differently back then. States have a background power under Article 2 and the
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10th Amendment to run presidential elections. They didn't use that power to police ballot access until
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about the 1890s. And by the 1890s, everyone had received amnesty and these issues had become moot.
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And as expected, the Marxist Dem attorney couldn't name a thing. Not anyone, nary a soul.
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Now our guest today, great American and chairman of CPAC, Matt Schlapp. Matt, it is great to have you with
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us here. I know I want to ask you, first of all, we're coming up on CPAC in two weeks. What have you
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got planned for the country? Well, first of all, we're hoping you're going to join us. Don't disappoint
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me. I think everybody needs a good dose of Lou Dobbs at CPAC. And so I guess I should have a pregnant
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pause and see what your reaction to that is. I'll say certainly. I'm honored.
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Hey, that's a deal. You know, I think every CPAC is a little bit different and I'm not such a brain
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child to be able to like say exactly what's going to happen well in advance, but serendipity or God's
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grace or whatever, you know, CPAC is occurring the very weekend of the South Carolina primary. So
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Donald Trump will come address the audience, get on his Trump force one, head to South Carolina and
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have his, what I think he kind of sticks a fork in it. It's over, man. I mean, he's got this
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nomination. At the same time, we're going to have a new orange seat chair, which I think is a wonderful
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thing. The person who's most likely talked about being the successor is going to be at CPAC. We have
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a brand new speaker of the house. We've had a lot of change. And then we have all these international
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people who are coming over, not because CPAC's gone global, but we're realizing these battles that we
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face in all these democracies are all the same. The Soros funded globalist, WEF, world economic
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forum kind of crap has, you know, is knee deep in all these countries and we're starting to work
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together to push back to win. Yeah. You know, that's an interesting point you make because
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Bolsonaro and Brazil is going through now post-election. He's going through everything
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that it looks like he's going to be going through everything that President Trump has gone through
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for the past eight years. And they're learning their lessons somewhere. And I have a feeling that
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a lot of the Marxist Dems are down there, their consultants, telling the Brazilians how to handle
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it. The opposing party, obviously, Malay and Argentina. We're watching some really significant
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possible change. So anyway, I'm excited and I understand exactly what you're saying.
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The issue right now before the Supreme Court, if I may, this is the idea that one state can take a
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president off the ballot is unthinkable. You don't have to be a lawyer. You don't have to be
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even an aficionado of political things, all things political. Common sense says how in the world could
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you give that power to any one state? Yeah. And of course, this is exactly what the
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communists are doing in Brazil with Bolsonaro is they're essentially taking him off the ballot,
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even though he's a wildly popular figure in the country. And you saw this, Lou, as you know,
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in totalitarian regimes not too long ago. But now you're seeing this United States of America.
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I always love the idea that the liberals tell us, you know, that they're kind of live and let live
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people. And it's nothing could be further from the truth. They're lies. They're actually
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the fascists who want to control everything about our life, including, you know, they tell us, well,
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you're a threat to democracy. How can we be a threat to democracy? We never keep them,
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those crazy people off ballots, but they literally want to keep Donald Trump off the ballot. And just
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more specifically, the Constitution of America. You know, the U.S. Constitution is this most revered
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document around the world. People really understand it's got two amazing things. It lists our rights
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as individuals, and it writes it down. It's written. Many countries, even democracies, don't have both of
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those things. And America was so unique because it was all about God's, God-given rights to the
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individual, not to the government. And most other constitutions get that wrong. The idea that the left
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is trying to nullify every aspect of the Constitution is just ironic and it's tragic.
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And really, this should be a nine to nothing decision by the Supreme Court. This is a no-brainer.
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This has nothing to do with the Civil War. This has nothing to do with any crimes. It's 100 percent
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Joe Biden can only win if he can get Donald Trump off a couple more of these state ballots,
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You know, you're talking about the should be a nine nothing vote. Listening to it this morning
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at various points, it seems pretty clear that they're highly skeptical of the Colorado advocates
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that they have a right to eliminate a president of the United States from the ballot in their pristine
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People's Republic of Colorado. I know the state has gone blue, but good Lord, what they're doing now.
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And Lou, the reason it went blue, I think this is very important. You have states like Washington,
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you have states like Colorado, they moved to nearly 100 percent mail-in ballots. And as soon as you do
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that, you lose the states. Even Utah's moved to 100 percent mail-in ballots. And Utah,
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I would say the conservative cause has had some real setbacks there, especially in the guise of
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Mitt Romney and others. So like, you know, this idea about how we elect people in this bogus way
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that the left has grabbed onto results in takeovers in states. And then they do things like this.
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Colorado went from mail-in ballots to having basically no statewide elected Republicans to now
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taking these extraordinary steps of nullifying aspects of the U.S. Constitution. So when people tell
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you how we vote doesn't matter that much, they don't know what they're talking about.
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And, you know, to your point, a new report revealing that President Trump would have won
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in 26 of 29 mail-in ballot fraud scenarios during the 2020 election if there had not been extended
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mail-in balloting of all sorts in the guise of accommodating the exigencies of a pandemic.
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I get that. But I don't get turning over the electoral system to a bunch of, well, to a bunch
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of doctors who turned out to not know what they were talking about. Led by the great, and I use it
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facetiously, Dr. Fauci. It looks like we've learned our lesson. And we're going to learn more lessons.
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And we're in a tutorial led by Matt Schlapp. We'll be right back. Stay with us.
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Lou Dobbs here. I'm delighted to let you all know that the program Lou Dobbs Tonight has returned to
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be joining us for Lou Dobbs Tonight as our fight to save this country has only begun.
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We're back now with CPAC leader and dream maker and driver, Matt Schlapp. And it's a great event. And
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we urge you all to get familiar with it and where possible attend. Matt, Ronna McDaniel,
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we're going through a particular, a peculiar moment here. She's resigning. The president said
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she's resigning and would announce it after South Carolina. She said, I think there's been some
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communication problem. She's not resigning. I say, I think she's resigning, but that's only because I
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want her out of there. Your thoughts? Yeah, I don't think she was, it was ever a question of whether or
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not she was going to resign. I think it was a question of whether or not Donald Trump was
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finally in a position to assert new leadership of the RNC. Now, officially the national committee of
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which, you know, I'm a former White House political director. I've had a lot of experience with that
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committee. They have to formalize it with a vote, but that committee is for Donald Trump and they're
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going to do what he wants. And I think Donald Trump has gotten to the point, I don't want to put words
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in his mouth because he's plenty capable of saying what's on his mind, but I think he knows it's time
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for new leadership there. And so I do think it's interesting. It's never over till it's over,
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Lou, but even if she were to stay on a little bit longer, she has to understand that she's going
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bankrupt at the RNC because the donors across this country see the RNC as being complicit with swamp
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establishment Republicanism. And that's really not what 99% of the country wants or the Republican
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party wants. Maybe the 1% that are my neighbors like it, but the rest of us don't. And we want
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this Republican national committee to be innovative, to be entrepreneurial, to listen to people,
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to listen to voters and normalize voter ID and normalize following the laws on voting and quit
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telling us that we're election deniers if we believe in voter ID. All right. And that's in our own
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party. Then when the Democrats pick up the drum beat, it becomes even more ridiculous and defeating,
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if I can put it that way. You mentioned balloting and how the election should go.
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The idea that we've seen great reform in Delaware, Julianne Moore, the head of the Republican party
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there. Her name has been mentioned as a possible replacement for Ronna and also Whatley in North
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Carolina. The president, I think, has actually made that mention. That's more than a mention,
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if he's going to mention it. What's your thinking about who these people are? Is there one person you
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favor overall? Well, I actually think there'd be a lot of good choices. I will say on Whatley,
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Michael, I've known for a very long time, and he went to law school with Amy Coney Barrett. He's a
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real sharp lawyer. And he realized 216 going forward that the Democrats, their whole play was to normalize
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this idea that voter ID is racism. And he immediately assembled the top lawyers around the state,
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and he did the same thing in 2020. We didn't have the shenanigans in North Carolina. We had
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in a lot of other swing states, and North Carolina is a swing state. And then they turned around and
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elected a senator two years later. They have been all over, I think, something like 600 lawyers in that
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state. So if somebody like Michael Whatley is selected, you can immediately tell the focus isn't on
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how many hits do I get on Fox News because none of us watch it anymore. Instead, it is how do I
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do the nuts and bolts, the blocking and tackling of politics to make sure they can't cheat and to
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make sure they can't use the race card to change outcomes in elections. And North Carolina has
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successfully done that. And I think that's the kind of person I want to be the chair. Maybe Michael's
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one of many who could do that, but that's the kind of person we need. All right. And do you know
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Julianne Murray? I don't know her, but from what you tell me about her, I probably love her.
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Well, we've got some good ones, as you say. Yeah. And it's going to be an interesting contest. I know
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that Mike Lindell, who is all over electoral integrity, is very keen on her. I don't know if
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he's endorsing her or promoting her, but he has mentioned her. So at least there's some strong
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candidates to replace what has been a weak performer in Ronna McDaniel. Let's turn to this. I mean,
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what's going on in Capitol Hill right now is unbelievable. Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell
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has just committed, I think, political suicide. I don't see how he can remain in that post
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after putting forward what was a duplicitous and at the very least poorly represented
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bipartisan border bill, which had nothing to do with the border in effect and everything to do with
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Ukraine. No, that's exactly right. I mean, we, Mercy and I just came back from the border down in
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Nogales, Arizona. It was actually my first trip to the border and it's real eye opener when you haven't
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been there and most Americans don't get to the border. And I just tell you as one of those,
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I was shocked to see the big, beautiful Trump wall, which is, which protects us. And then you see
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that the bad guys have cut holes in that wall and that Joe Biden refuses to repair the holes in the
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wall and refuses to, refuses to finish the wall. So even at a port of entry, like in Nogales, where
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people legally can go and make asylum claims just a few yards down the road, Lou, they just walk in
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and they're in America forever. They get a new phone, they get new clothes, they get a new bag of
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stuff. They get travel money. And you know, what was amazing is they were on our plane. When we flew
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back from Arizona to Washington, DC, we watched, they got to cut in line at TSA. They got concierge
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service. They all were on airplanes. Boy, in my days, when you didn't have any money, you took a bus,
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but I guess the federal government is so rich, they can give them all nice airline tickets. Then when they
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got to Reagan airport, they got concierge service from American airlines. They cut in front of the line.
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And I watched all the employees do everything they could to get them set up with cars and everything
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else. This is insane. And by the way, nothing Mitch McConnell and Senator Lankford worked out in this
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thing would have stopped any of that. Matter of fact, all the money that they were talking about
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to help with immigration wasn't going to close any portions of the border. It was going to facilitate
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and mainstream more of these illegal people getting into all these towns and cities all over America
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and having more money in which to do it. So it was such a cynical ploy. And I think it has backfired
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on them to a massive amount. And they're blaming Trump for playing politics on this, please.
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It's the senators who are playing politics on the cynically thinking that we would be too stupid
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to know what the bill actually did. And everybody was making certain that we knew what was in this
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bill because we knew it was a tough one. We're going to take a quick break. We're talking about
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one of my favorite subjects, a cowardly Republican Party leadership in Washington DC. We're going to see
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if that's going to improve or be a status quo for a while. We're talking with Matt Slap. And we're
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going to talk also about a new bill we hear is moving from the Senate. And be careful, folks, because
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we're told also it is about Ukraine. They've forgotten the border already. We'll be right back with Matt
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Slap. Stay with us. We're back with Matt Slap. And I want to just say right away, we've just gotten
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word that the Senate is pushing out a new bill. It has nothing to do with the border now. They've dropped
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the issues, Matt, of anything to do with immigration. They want 95, not 60, 95 billion dollars worth of
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support from the United States without border provisions. That coming from the White House,
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obviously, and the Marxist Dems who lead the Senate and those in the House of Representatives.
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I mean, this is really arrogance, in my opinion, at its most obvious. Your reaction?
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Well, you know, I live in the swamp blue. It's, I guess, an institutional hazard with what I do for a
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living. But I drove through my neighborhood the other day and somebody had a Ukraine flag up
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and a yard sign that said immediate ceasefire in Gaza. Same house, two signs that say the opposite.
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All these people pushing for Ukraine aid never talk about a ceasefire. Prime Minister Orban and others
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have offered to negotiate a ceasefire. For whatever reason, the hardcore Ukraine aid people seem to want
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to do everything they can to keep this war going forward. We asked this of our CPAC audience last
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year. 75% of them said, I don't want a penny going to Ukraine. This is a very controversial thing with
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Republicans. And for some reason, Senate leadership believes that this is a cause similar to the
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American Revolution with the rhetoric that they use. The American people just don't buy it, especially
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when Americans are hurting so much. We've never been presented with a plan on how Ukraine could even win
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this conflict. And they cynically have to, you know, Lou, when something's popular, you don't
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have to try to hide it. You don't have to try to camouflage it. You just do it. In a democracy,
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you debate it and you say, hey, we think this is such an important thing. Let the American people
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decide if they're for this aid or not for this aid. But polls show they're not for this aid. And I think,
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once again, the Senate is going to get stuffed by popular opinion. And I think it puts Mike Johnson,
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who I know has had different answers on this at different times with his one-seat majority,
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but I think it'll be a real moment of truth for the Republicans in the House as well. You know,
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we have real issues in this country. And I'm not someone that doesn't believe we don't have a role
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to play overseas. I just don't want to squander money. And I don't want to give it to a president
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who is the reason for the conflict existing. If Donald Trump had gotten the second term
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that he deserved, there would be no conflict in the Ukraine because Vladimir Putin had respect
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for Donald Trump. And he didn't get outside his box because he feared the power of America. And
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that's our biggest problem. We can spend billions of dollars in aid here and there and everywhere.
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But with Joe Biden as our president and weakness being projected overseas, it becomes very dangerous.
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There's no amount of money that can stop what bad guys will do.
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And a lot of those bad guys are in this country. And one of them is Alejandro Mayorkas. And Mike
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Johnson, the new speaker, put the vote forward, lost the vote by two votes. In point of fact,
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that was a procedural vote that if we remove that from the scheme, George Santos would have been the
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deciding vote. But Speaker Johnson, early on the job, made a huge mistake when he went after him
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without due process. Mike Johnson, you said he reverses himself. Mike Johnson has reversed course
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once again. You may be aware, but this has just come in here to this desk. He won't be endorsing the man
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he said he would, which is Matt Rosendale in Montana for the U.S. Senate.
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our good friend, Mitch McConnell has worked his will on the House and the Speaker.
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Yeah, I don't, you know, that's news to me too, Lou. And that's an important primary. And I would
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simply say this, my counsel, I'll say publicly what my private counsel is to the Speaker, who has always
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had a very good CPAC rating and is, you know, the first time we've actually had somebody who gets high
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scores in our rating system as the Speaker. He's trying to navigate this one seat. You bring up
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George Santos. That was a colossal error to kick George Santos out of the House of Representatives.
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By the way, Democrats never kick out their own people, no matter what terrible stuff they've done.
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I mean, you have Senator Menendez. I don't know what it's going to take to get him out of the Senate,
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but I know one thing, Chuck Schumer is not going to have any part of trying to lose a vote in the
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United States Senate. They seem to get power better than we get it. And so, you know, I think the
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Mayorkas thing was a flap. I do have hope that they're going to be able to bring that back to
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the floor and get this important thing done. But, you know, my advice to the Speaker is, I get it.
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We have a lot of moderates in the conference. Some are from New York, some are from California.
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And when you have a one seat majority, they could make it, but they could be a difference maker to
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whether we do something or not. You still got to bring this stuff to the floor, even if it fails.
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And you got to speak up for your constituents. He represents a very conservative
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populace in Louisiana. And I think people know he's got almost an impossible job. Just do what
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it takes to make those constituents happy. Everyone understands it's a one seat majority.
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I think that majority will grow if people see them fight. It will shrink if people view the Republican
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Party as the constantly the white flag party. It'll shrink because a lot of people are saying,
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Yeah, I agree with you 100 percent. Excuse me. There's another Johnson reversal. I guess I'm
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not sure how to style this. It's an endorsement of a candidate who is opposing the Trump candidate,
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the America first candidate, J.R. Majewski in Ohio. It doesn't make any sense. He's making unforced
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error after unforced error. And a little modesty here would be in good and helpful order for this
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speaker until at least he has a sure path forward. Let me ask you, as we are wrapping up here,
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where do we go as a party if we do not see our senators, our House, coalesce behind President
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Trump? There is still this resistance that exists within Capitol Hill and with the Republican conference,
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whether it be in the Senate or the House. It's about time some people grew up, isn't it,
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within the Republican Party? Yeah, I mean, this has been a road I understand well since I live here
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and I've lost so many friendships over sticking with Donald Trump. I stuck with Donald Trump even
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on January 7th, and a lot of us did. And we're all happy he's coming back because this country needs
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him and this city needs him. And for the Republicans who are still never Trump and still fighting it,
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for the Nikki Haley crew, I don't know if it's salvageable with that hardcore. And most of them
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are very wealthy, elite financiers of all of these efforts. And it's about 16% in polls that continue
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to be uncomfortable with Donald Trump. And I guess all I'll say is that maybe the elephant and the donkey
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can't really get it done. And I told my Republican friends, and I'm a strong Republican,
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the elephant can only have so much of a wingspan. And the biggest part of this country,
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if you look at Gallup or any polling, it's conservatives. And now we have this marriage
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with MAGA and populists. And that's where the heart and soul of this is. And then you add the
00:30:51.680
elephant and the Republicans onto it. And that makes it broader. I think we're going to get Donald
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Trump always gets a lot of Democrats. I think you'll get even more Democrats who love their country,
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love cops, love the military, and they don't want to spend $15 to buy fast food for their kid. It's
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just too expensive to exist and to fill up their car and everything else. So I really think we're not
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going to have 100% support of Donald Trump in the Republican Party. But I think what's going to happen
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is you're going to have black voters, Hispanic voters, non-traditional Republican voters flocking to
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Donald Trump because they like what the man stands for and what he did in office.
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Absolutely. He has a record. He has a record as well of keeping his promises, which makes him
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unique indeed. And he is an absolute, he absolutely stands above everyone, Democrat or Republican who
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would, well, who would compete with him for the White House in 2024. Matt Slap, as always,
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great to have you with us. Thanks so much and look forward to seeing you soon. Appreciate it.
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Bye. Thank you, Lou. Thanks to Matt Slap. Thank you everybody for being with us. Join us tomorrow
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