The Great America Show - FINALLY! Comey indicted as MASSIVE J6 docs are revealed!

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show. Happy Friday. It's great to have you all here

00:00:07.780 on The Great America Show on this beautiful, beautiful day in America. I can hardly contain

00:00:13.820 my excitement over these last two days. Such good news is happening in America. The great Lou Dobbs

00:00:19.660 is in heaven right now, and he is smiling down as truth, justice, and the American way finally

00:00:25.540 seems to be at the forefront of this administration. And by that, I mean the great news last night,

00:00:33.020 the two-count indictment of none other than James Comey. If you don't mind, can we just take one

00:00:39.320 second? It's a short two-page indictment just to read over it and listen to it together. And I'll

00:00:46.820 read it to you all because I think this is a really great time for America right now. The United States

00:00:52.360 of America versus James B. Comey Jr. Count one, false statements within the jurisdiction of

00:00:59.240 the legislative branch of the United States government. 18 U.S.C. 1001A2. And the count two,

00:01:07.080 obstruction of a congressional proceeding. Sounds familiar, Mr. Comey, doesn't it? I think this is

00:01:13.480 only the tip of the iceberg, by the way, for you and the rest of your government gangsters. Who thought

00:01:18.560 you guys were going to pull off the biggest scam in American history and try to keep a man out of

00:01:24.360 office, an innocent man out of office, nonetheless. So on or about September 30th of 2020, in the Eastern

00:01:31.460 District of Virginia, the defendant, that's right, the defendant, James B. Comey, did willfully and

00:01:37.480 knowingly make materialistically false, fictitious, and fraudulent statements in a matter within the

00:01:42.420 jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the government of the United States by falsely stating to a U.S.

00:01:48.000 senator during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that he, James B. Comey, had not authorized

00:01:54.220 someone else in the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reporting regarding an FBI investigation

00:02:01.580 concerning a person. Now, that can't be regarding James Comey and him leaking his notes and memos about

00:02:09.300 meetings with President Trump with his friend who's a law professor. I don't think it has anything

00:02:15.740 about doing that. The statement was false because James B. Comey Jr. then and there knew he was,

00:02:22.900 in fact, had authorized Person 3 to serve as an anonymous source in news reporting regarding an

00:02:29.280 FBI investigation concerning a person. Donald Trump, maybe, huh? All in violation of 18C-1001A2.

00:02:39.080 And lastly, but not least, count number two. On or about September 30th, 2020, so that same day,

00:02:47.740 in the Eastern District of Virginia, the defendant, James B. Comey Jr., did corruptly endeavor to

00:02:53.220 influence, obstruct, and impede the due and proper exercise of the power inquiry under which an

00:02:58.960 investigation was being had for the Senate Judiciary Committee by making false and misleading

00:03:03.440 statements before that investigation. All in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1505, signed Lindsay Halligan,

00:03:13.080 United States Attorney, for the great state of Virginia. Now, Halligan is new to the job, so off

00:03:20.040 to a really good start. You may recall there was another person that was trying to be put in there,

00:03:25.380 which President Trump last weekend put out a little note on Truth Social, which people believe

00:03:30.240 was a text message meant to be sent to Pam Bondi, but instead was a message on Truth Social.

00:03:36.580 So, of course, Pam Bondi is taking some sort of victory lap right now, but this was the doing of

00:03:42.420 Lindsay Halligan, the U.S. Attorney for Virginia. This wasn't a Pam Bondi indictment, so I just want to

00:03:50.040 correct the record between the two so there's no conflation there. Lindsay Halligan was a Trump pick 0.89

00:03:56.580 to put in there after President Trump realized that there was some funny business happening down

00:04:01.140 there, and someone anti-Trump and anti-Republican was about to take the job. Oh, which, by the way,

00:04:08.000 James Comey's son-in-law happens to work in that office down there, and coincidentally yesterday he

00:04:14.140 decided his time was done there, and he was going to resign. Imagine that. Folks, I'm over the moon with

00:04:21.500 this as I think all of us should be, and it's because justice needs to be served in this country.

00:04:26.920 James Comey is not an innocent man. What they did to Donald Trump, an innocent man, was disgusting,

00:04:32.320 and justice now has to be paid because truth, justice, and the American way are the most important

00:04:37.780 things in this country. So President Trump this afternoon took a little trip with his granddaughter,

00:04:42.940 and he's at the Ryder Cup in Long Island. Did a nice, beautiful flyover before, and he's there to

00:04:48.460 cheer on Team USA, who in the morning had a very, very tough morning. For any of you guys who are

00:04:52.560 watching it, you know what I'm talking about. When President Trump got there, the crowd absolutely

00:04:57.520 changed. The whole movement changed. The whole momentum changed, and America picked up the slack.

00:05:02.140 But before President Trump departed, he was asked by a reporter at the White House if he's worried,

00:05:08.800 now listen very closely, folks, because you're going to laugh. If he's worried that when a Democrat

00:05:14.800 takes back power in the White House and takes back government power, if he's worried they're

00:05:20.120 going to go after his FBI director or possibly President Trump. No, no, no, I'm not joking about

00:05:26.220 this. This was a real conversation. Take a listen.

00:05:29.400 Are you worried now that the next time there's a Democratic president, they will indict your FBI

00:05:41.880 director or people in your administration? Well, that's what they tried to do, right? They did it

00:05:46.520 with me. For four years, they went after me. They went after me for four years, and that doesn't

00:05:51.820 include the four great years that we had in the White House. So when I ran it from, you know,

00:05:56.640 in 2016 when we won, it began before I got to office. You know that. Wait a minute. Before

00:06:03.720 I came to office, I started hearing rumors about Russia. I said, what the hell do I have

00:06:09.680 to do with Russia? Nothing. And then it got worse and worse, and some of the fakers, not

00:06:13.920 you, but some of the fake news picked it up, and they loved it. And we went through a long

00:06:18.580 time with that. And despite that, we had a great first term.

00:06:23.660 That's how it went. That's how it went, where they made you go and take a mugshot. Is this

00:06:29.780 more about justice, or is it about revenge? It's about justice, really. It's not revenge.

00:06:35.180 It's about justice. It's also about the fact that you can't let this go on. They are sick,

00:06:42.620 radical left people, and they can't get away with it. And Comey, Comey was one of the people.

00:06:48.940 He wasn't the biggest, but he's a dirty cop. He's always been a dirty cop. Everybody knew

00:06:54.340 it. And it's, you know, as far as the case is concerned, he gave an answer.

00:07:00.420 It was just.

00:07:02.980 President Trump doesn't worry because he's been through it all. There is nothing more you can

00:07:09.180 possibly do to this man that hasn't been done already. So James Comey, probably the biggest

00:07:17.480 story of the month, biggest story of the year so far with that indictment. And Comey put out,

00:07:22.120 we're not going to bring you the video because I know you guys out there don't like seeing these

00:07:26.340 Democrats and these people. But James Comey put out a little crocodile tier video that he's terrified

00:07:31.560 and he's so scared of what's happening to our Justice Department. But he says he's innocent

00:07:35.500 and he tells everybody to go out and vote. He must have not gotten the memo. I know he was good

00:07:41.260 with memos and leaking them and giving them to friends to write up about. But he must have not

00:07:45.340 got the memo that happened on November 5th when President Trump absolutely molly whopped the

00:07:50.180 Democrats in just an unprecedented election. The only president to ever win three elections,

00:07:56.940 of course, in America. So Donald Trump has made history many, many different ways in the last 10

00:08:01.660 years. This is just the latest one. So that's the big story of the week. What's the next biggest

00:08:06.960 story? You know, I can't really compare to James Comey being indicted, right? Well, it's up there.

00:08:14.540 The Blaze is reporting, you ready for this, that the FBI has acknowledged it had 274 plainclothes agents

00:08:22.100 in the massive crowd on January 6th, more than four and a half years ago, after the questions were

00:08:28.820 first raised about the level of FBI involvement on that day. Nearly 300 undercover FBI agents.

00:08:37.560 In just a moment, folks, we're going to be joined by the former chief of Capitol Police,

00:08:41.640 Chief Stephen Sund, to talk about what happened on that day. I want to get his take. I want to know

00:08:47.880 if he knows there was nearly 300 FBI informants and agents on the grounds of his Capitol that day.

00:08:54.520 Were they working with his office? Were they there to support his office? Or were they there to do

00:09:01.840 something else? So we're going to be talking to him in just a moment. Before we get to that,

00:09:06.440 I want to take a little trip down memory lane of Andy Biggs, Congressman Andy Biggs,

00:09:10.600 asking former FBI Director Christopher Wray, how many FBI agents were there on that day?

00:09:16.520 And his response. Take a listen.

00:09:21.760 Thanks here. And please don't distract here because we're focusing on those who were there

00:09:27.400 in an undercover capacity on January 6th. How many were there?

00:09:31.800 Again, I'm not sure that I can give you that number as I sit here. I'm not sure there were

00:09:35.700 undercover agents on scene.

00:09:38.260 I find that kind of a remarkable statement, Director. At this point, you don't know whether

00:09:45.960 there were undercover federal agents, FBI agents in the crowd or in the Capitol on January 6th.

00:09:53.540 I say that because I want to be very careful. There have been a number of court filings related

00:09:58.320 to some of these topics, and I want to make sure that I stick with him what's in.

00:10:01.660 I understand that. But I just, I thought I heard you say you didn't know whether there were FBI

00:10:08.720 agents or informants or human sources in the Capitol or in the vicinity on January 6th.

00:10:16.560 Did I misunderstand you? I thought that's what you said.

00:10:18.320 Well, I referred very specifically to undercover agents.

00:10:21.180 Yeah. And so are you acknowledging then there were undercover agents?

00:10:27.000 As I sit here right now, I do not believe there were undercover agents on scene.

00:10:31.660 I want to get a real answer from him. Bring him back into Congress and see if his memory has

00:10:36.900 changed since he sat before Congress and clearly told a lie. How the director of the FBI wouldn't

00:10:44.700 know 300 of his men were on the grounds of the Capitol for January 6th, what the Democrats call

00:10:50.380 the worst day since Pearl Harbor. Bring them back in. It's time to get some answers, some truth. 0.99

00:10:57.160 Comey's number one. Who's next? You guys thought you were going to lie and get away with it because

00:11:03.080 you thought Donald Trump was never becoming president again. Well, I got to be honest. You

00:11:08.340 guys lost again. You lost in 2016. You lost in 2020. But we're able to pull off the biggest theft

00:11:14.240 in American history. This time around, you're not getting away with it. It's not going to work.

00:11:19.960 The tides are turning. The people want truth, justice in the American way. It's why Donald

00:11:25.760 Trump overwhelmingly won that election. We all know it. You and I know it. Folks, we're going to

00:11:30.820 take a quick break here. On the other side of that quick break, we're going to be joined

00:11:33.440 by a man who has become a friend of mine, former chief of Capitol Police, Chief Stephen Sund.

00:11:39.140 We're going to get his take on January 6th. Did he know how many federal agents were there on that day?

00:11:45.120 Did he know the FBI was even sending federal agents on that day? And I want to get his take on

00:11:50.940 the overall sentiment, why he believes they were there. Were they there to do good?

00:11:55.720 Were they there to do bad? And I want to get his take on if his mood, his mind has changed

00:12:00.960 since that day on what he was told. A man who has now lost his pension, lost his job,

00:12:07.200 everything he's worked for his entire life, who was fired as a scapegoat by Nancy Pelosi,

00:12:12.660 who on camera, after the fact, took the blame for January 6th, saying she should have had

00:12:17.500 more National Guard troops there. But she still sits there with her congressional pay and insider 0.93

00:12:24.100 information on stocks and all that good stuff. We're going to take a quick break here, folks.

00:12:27.460 On the other side of this quick break, we're joined by former chief of Capitol Police,

00:12:30.800 Stephen Sund. Please stay with us. The Great America Show continues in just moments.

00:12:34.800 Chief Sund, it's great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show. What a day. What a

00:12:45.540 week. I'm having a really good last two days. Last night, James Comey indicted. We're going to get

00:12:50.200 to that in just a moment. But also last night, we find out something very peculiar. Now, many years

00:12:56.860 after January 6th, 2001, we're now finding out there were over 300 federal agents there on behalf

00:13:05.640 of the FBI. If you do a simple Google search that I did just before we got on here and search January

00:13:11.400 6th federal agents, one thing comes up. This, in my opinion, is the biggest news story this week if

00:13:18.500 James Comey were indicted last night that we find out almost 300 agents were in attendance. First,

00:13:26.120 I want to get your thoughts on it. But before we get that, I want to know, were you aware that there

00:13:32.320 were any sort of federal agents there on that day, you know, immediately after January 6th or before

00:13:38.780 January 6th happened? So one thing I've always said, and John, thank you very much for having me on

00:13:44.380 again, is I wouldn't be surprised. And I've said this in a lot of the interviews that I've done.

00:13:50.320 I wouldn't be surprised that there was plainclothes federal agents in the crowd. It'd be unusual for a

00:13:55.200 major event to be occurring in Washington, D.C., especially one where they're, you know, concerned

00:13:59.380 about domestic terrorists that, you know, only found out after January 6th who were possibly

00:14:03.240 attending. That wouldn't be unusual for special agents to be tracking those individuals. But to

00:14:08.500 hear a number of 275 plus being in the crowd, and I suspect that a number of those are going to be

00:14:14.660 response. So you had asked an important part of that question. Before January 6th, no, no one ever

00:14:19.560 came up and said, hey, we're going to have these assets in the crowd, either from HSI, DEA, FBI,

00:14:25.320 anything like that. Nobody had said anything to me about it to coordinate or anything like that.

00:14:32.060 After January 6th, well, I'll tell you on January 6th, when I couldn't get approval to bring in

00:14:36.360 National Guard and federal resources, you know, I started calling every chief of police I could.

00:14:40.580 I could. And during that, I'd gotten a call from Dave Bowditch, who at the time, I think,

00:14:46.000 was the number two at the FBI, offering support. And I was taking everything I could at that point.

00:14:51.220 So at that point, you know, I had him coordinating with one of my-

00:14:54.400 That was after the events already happened, right?

00:14:56.140 Yes, that's after the events already happened. So those are the plainclothes assets. Well,

00:15:00.100 I didn't even know they'd be plainclothes. I'd expect them to be coming in as their SWAT team.

00:15:03.560 Of course.

00:15:04.260 The SWAT team or the civil disobedience teams, which would have been most likely in green,

00:15:08.100 fatigued, marked, things like that. But to find out now that, you know, there's been reporting of,

00:15:14.340 you know, different law enforcement agencies having people in the crowd,

00:15:17.840 different federal agencies now, they're coming out and saying, well, yeah, we may have had

00:15:21.300 confidential human sources in the crowd. You know, not knowing that ahead of time,

00:15:26.360 that was concerning. And the fact that they couldn't answer that question for

00:15:29.100 years is extremely concerning. So I appreciate the hard work of the investigative reports from

00:15:35.200 John Solomon to get that out. And I appreciate you bringing it to the audience.

00:15:39.080 John does a hell of a job. And we have him on here quite often. He's a really good,

00:15:41.940 decent human being overall, but does absolute great work. Let me ask you this, because to me,

00:15:49.020 on January 6th, you are Chief Stevenson. You are head honcho. You are king of the Capitol.

00:15:55.120 You know, it's your responsibility. It's your role to, you know, make sure everything's tied down.

00:15:59.880 And you obviously did your job by trying to do your diligence beforehand and were stifled at every

00:16:05.080 single moment. Right. So to me, it seems now I'm not a career law enforcement guy. I've never been

00:16:11.480 in law enforcement. I probably never be in law enforcement to me as a, just a pedestrian. It

00:16:16.420 seems like if I'm the FBI, if I'm the federal government, I'm going to pick up the phone and

00:16:20.800 say, Hey, chief, just want to let you know, we know January 6th is supposed to maybe get a little

00:16:25.880 bit crazy. We'll have 300 agents there for you. There'll be plain clothes. There'll be some guys

00:16:31.420 not in plain clothes. Is that a rational thing for me to be thinking that, Hey, we'll pick up the

00:16:37.620 phone and say, Hey chief, you'll have a, you'll have 300 guys there. If you need them, here's your

00:16:42.380 point of contact for, for January 6th. Let us know if you need anything else. Well, take it a step

00:16:48.140 further. If they were saying that they were going to have that group in the crowd already, most likely

00:16:52.440 what they'd do is it put a, a, um, liaison up in my command center. I mean, if you're going to have

00:16:57.480 that type of, uh, assets and resources, uh, deployed onto someone's jurisdiction, you're

00:17:02.240 going to put somebody in their command center. So that's, uh, that's key. And you said something

00:17:05.920 really interesting coming into that, that as the chief, you're, you're kind of king of the castle.

00:17:10.160 The only problem with the Capitol is the bureaucracy, even though I was the, the chief of police,

00:17:15.020 there was a chief law enforcement officer for the house and a chief law enforcement officer for the

00:17:19.020 Senate that sat over top of me, uh, that created the big bureaucracy that I ran into. So you'd like to

00:17:24.800 think the chief could call the shots, especially with my experience. Um, not the case on January

00:17:29.500 6th. Yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't saying it, putting the blame on you in any way. Oh, no, no, no. I was

00:17:34.460 just, just, just so, so your, your, your viewers, you know, kind of get a picture. It's like no other

00:17:40.220 jurisdiction in the world. It, it, they really need to fix that. So you brought up an even bigger point

00:17:46.200 to me, which, uh, fuels my, my, my speculation even higher and my conspiratorial, a part of my brain.

00:17:53.800 They send in these three federal agents. They don't let you know, you're telling me now that

00:17:59.080 there's usually some sort of liaison, which would make perfect sense. Somebody they're coordinating

00:18:03.040 with you. So your guys don't, you know, go after these guys who are federal agents. Um,

00:18:10.100 that's even fishier to me now that you tell me there's usually a liaison there and there's no

00:18:16.060 liaison. Why was the FBI so quiet about sending in their own agents? If they're there to,

00:18:23.780 help and support chief Steven's son and his Capitol police.

00:18:28.440 And you know what, John, as, as you're sitting there talking and I'm reliving the, the, the

00:18:33.120 memories and the days leading up to it. And I'd completely free. So we, on January 5th,

00:18:38.040 I had a video call with all the key law enforcement agencies in Washington, DC, uh, FBI, secret service,

00:18:44.260 park police, metropolitan police, uh, Amtrak police, uh, Washington metropolitan airport authority,

00:18:49.800 even the national guard, just kind of go over and make sure everybody had kind of their,

00:18:53.260 their plans. Cause we knew national guard was going to be deployed to help an MPD at the end of that

00:18:57.460 call. My deputy chief had my assistant chief who actually oversees our command center had actually

00:19:03.740 offered all the people in the, on the call to put a liaison in our command center. I just thought

00:19:08.260 about that and no one took us up on it. That's, that's extremely fishy in my book. And which makes

00:19:14.900 me believe that the FBI was sent in there not to support your people, but to have an ulterior motive,

00:19:21.480 which we now find out, I want to roll a clip for you. And it's from a documentary that was done that

00:19:27.100 it peaks my mind even more. And in particular, there was a lot of people there wearing face

00:19:35.120 coverings and no, I'm not talking about the blue face coverings with the little strings on the end.

00:19:40.380 I'm talking about face coverings that cover everything, but the eyes and head coverings

00:19:45.020 that cover everything, but the eyebrows, take a listen and watch this video with me. And I want

00:19:50.140 to get your take on it after. Here we go. Radio journalist from Michigan was shooting video

00:20:13.420 that day at the Capitol. What he captured were two most charitably called suspicious actors,

00:20:18.420 but they are dressed in such a way that led him to believe that they were government agents.

00:20:23.220 And one of them, after the windows had been broken by a protester, it was encouraging people to pull

00:20:29.140 the rest of the glass out and go inside. Bobby Powell, who was the journalist that had shot it,

00:20:33.860 and he has his camera rolling. He told him that would be illegal and that wouldn't be a good idea.

00:20:39.300 He warned people off not to go into that window. And then he turned his camera around and he caught

00:20:44.740 this agent or suspicious actor pulling a large pane of glass out, this tempered glass. It kind of folds

00:20:51.780 into itself, crunch onto the ground. When he realized he was being filmed, he quickly dropped it. It seems

00:20:58.340 apparent on the video that he did not want to be seen doing what he just did. So he pulled in a

00:21:05.220 protester and started blaming him. He said, what are you doing breaking that window? The poor fellow that was

00:21:11.060 being accused didn't know what was going on. And then he gave him a couple of really good shows and

00:21:15.860 cocked his arm like he was going to punch him. We don't know. His facial image is not on any of

00:21:21.380 the sedition hunter sites or the FBI's most wanted site, but he clearly was committing criminal damage

00:21:27.380 to property and he has not been charged. So it, you know, again, it raises a question of why.

00:21:35.220 So the individual trying to, again, opening the window up is even encouraging people to enter,

00:21:39.780 I believe as well. Yes. What's he saying? Well, he, he said, why don't y'all open the rest of it?

00:21:58.260 I've never seen that before until earlier today. First of all, that guy who took that window piece

00:22:04.500 out has all the markings of what would be a fed or what would be an employee. I mean,

00:22:08.660 the cargo pants, the hat, the everything, but the guy's face is completely covered. He's destroying

00:22:14.420 and defacing the Capitol. Whereas people who didn't do any destruction did time in jail for it. Have you

00:22:21.100 ever seen that before? And what's your thoughts on that? No, that's the first time I've seen that

00:22:26.000 video and I appreciate you showing it to me. It is, it's concerning that they haven't, you know,

00:22:30.920 tried to identify that person and possibly charge him for the destruction of the property of the

00:22:35.420 window, tearing out the window, even though it was already broken. And he is acting kind of

00:22:40.620 suspicious. You know, you see where he notices he's being videotaped. Then he almost changes his

00:22:44.800 demeanor and starts, you know, like you said, it sounds like they're trying to saying he's trying

00:22:48.360 to blame it on the other person. I find that, I find that odd, you know, nowadays you've got a lot

00:22:53.620 of people that are wannabes that'll dress certain ways, stuff like that. So, you know, I'd like to

00:22:57.620 have a little bit more proof than just, you know, him or in a pair of the 511s or something.

00:23:02.480 But it is, it is concerning. His behavior is very concerning. And I just haven't seen that one

00:23:06.700 before. And as you heard the journalists say there, we've looked through every file and have

00:23:11.080 not been able to find this guy anywhere, which further leads you to believe there are certain

00:23:14.920 instances that happened on that day. One of the people who has been accused of being a fed was a

00:23:21.460 man by the name of Ray Epps. I think scaffold commander is what they've called him. Now, I don't know if

00:23:26.080 he was or he wasn't. But when I look at it on its face, a man who's sitting on top of a scaffold,

00:23:32.860 yelling at people to go into the Capitol to cause an insurrection, who gets no jail time,

00:23:38.680 I have to think and imagine that there's some sort of deal there that implicates this guy from going to

00:23:46.340 jail. Yeah, yeah, his involvement is kind of concerning. And there's somebody I've seen called

00:23:53.400 scaffold commander that looks like he's wearing glasses. So I'm not sure. Maybe it may be this

00:23:58.660 individual, maybe Ray Epps. I'm not sure. But I think Ray Epps is seen at the top of the stairs on

00:24:04.260 the on the west front, the top of the terrace, having some discussion with people. What concerns

00:24:08.960 me is when you look at the video of him and the day before on January 5th, he's videotaped over by the

00:24:14.860 old executive office building, which is right next to the White House, telling people you've got to get

00:24:19.320 into the Capitol, you got to get into the Capitol, where he's challenged at being a Fed. And then of

00:24:24.400 the day of the first time that I've seen him on video, he's seen down by I think it's either the

00:24:29.340 Maryland Avenue walkway or the Pennsylvania Avenue walkway, where we had a fence line set up. We had

00:24:35.440 probably five or six officers behind the fence line, the crowd comes up and starts at getting

00:24:39.860 agitated with the officers. And you see this individual identified as as Mr. Epps approach behind

00:24:46.580 a group of protesters lean forward, whisper in the ear in the pro in the ear of a protester covering

00:24:52.040 his mouth. So you can't see what Ray Epps is saying to the individual. And then within a minute

00:24:58.420 after that, like 30 seconds, that officer starts viciously attacking my officer. I know he's later

00:25:03.080 on seen I think he testified or didn't testify. It was interviewed on 60 Minutes where he said, what he

00:25:08.080 is telling the officer is these I'm sorry, what he's telling the protester is that these officers are

00:25:14.140 our friends. Don't don't injure them. Well, if you're concerned about that one protester doing

00:25:18.540 it, why aren't you yelling it to the whole group of protesters? Because it looked like they were all

00:25:21.880 getting agitated and getting ready to attack my officers. So I find that behavior very, very

00:25:26.980 concerning. And the fact that is only after significant public outpouring that he even was

00:25:32.860 charged with, I think, trespassing. And that was it. That was the only only charge against him. So

00:25:39.460 yeah, I think there's still a lot of people looking for additional answers on that individual.

00:25:44.140 Yeah. And to your point, you're absolutely correct not to complain over the audience. Scaffold

00:25:48.460 Commander Ray Epps are two separate people. But in saying that, two people who didn't face one day

00:25:54.660 in jail. Chief, we've been lied to. I mean, this whole entire time, just a year ago or a little over

00:26:01.060 a year ago, Christopher Ray sat before Congress and lied and lied and lied through his teeth. Here's a

00:26:07.260 quick snippet just to go down memory lane of him with a great American, Congressman Andy Biggs.

00:26:11.860 things here. And please don't distract here because we're focusing on those who were there

00:26:17.720 in an undercover capacity on January 6th. How many were there? Again, I'm not sure that I can give

00:26:23.760 you that number as I sit here. I'm not sure there were undercover agents on scene.

00:26:28.580 I find that kind of a remarkable statement, director. At this point, you don't know whether there were

00:26:36.600 undercover federal agents, FBI agents in the crowd or in the Capitol on January 6th.

00:26:43.880 I say that because I want to be very careful. There've been a number of court filings related

00:26:48.640 to some of these topics. And I want to make sure that I stick with him what's in.

00:26:51.980 I understand that. But I just I thought I heard you say you didn't know whether there were FBI

00:26:59.040 agents or informants or human sources in the Capitol or in the vicinity on January 6th. Did

00:27:07.000 I misunderstand you? I thought that's what you said. Well, I referred very specifically

00:27:10.080 to undercover agents. Yeah. And so are you acknowledging then there were undercover agents?

00:27:16.560 As I sit here right now, I do not believe there were undercover agents on scene.

00:27:23.320 That to me, chief, sounds like a man who's guilty of what James Comey was indicted of yesterday,

00:27:30.220 lying to Congress and obstruction of an official investigation.

00:27:35.340 Well, the big thing there is, as the head of the FBI, it would have been very easy for him to

00:27:40.300 reach out to Washington Field Office, WFO and say, how many how many undercovers did you guys have

00:27:46.200 in the crowd? And you'd expect Steve D'Antoana, who's the head of Washington Field Office at the

00:27:51.140 time, to come out and say we had X. How many confidential human sources? Because now we're

00:27:55.640 finding out confidential human sources were coming in from around the country, but to coordinate it.

00:27:59.320 If you know a confidential human source is coming in from the Portland Field Office or

00:28:03.540 Dallas or something like that, they coordinate that. That information gets gets forwarded to WFO

00:28:08.640 for him not to be not to have asked that question to be able to answer. I mean, ask for that

00:28:13.380 information to be able to answer that question and just being ill prepared at the at the minimum.

00:28:23.120 This was the worst day in American history, chief, since Pearl Harbor. Not my words,

00:28:27.380 the Democrats words. Wouldn't it be the FBI director Christopher's raised call to say this is how many

00:28:34.500 agents were were sending in? And if it were in his call, wouldn't it be brought up to his level for

00:28:39.660 approval to send in the 300 plus agents for the worst day since Pearl Harbor? Well, I can I have

00:28:46.340 no doubt that if they deployed in advance 300 agents to the to the event, that would be something

00:28:53.000 that Christopher Wray would definitely know about. But to deploy resources into an event in Washington,

00:28:58.740 D.C., I would suspect most likely that's something that if if anything goes to the WFO director of WFO to

00:29:05.780 make that make make that call. But that's going to be a handful of agents. That's going to be your

00:29:10.380 joint terrorism task force, you know, some of your task force agents. But when you start talking

00:29:14.960 10, you know, dozens, if not hundreds of agents, that's a huge operation. That's that's definitely

00:29:20.460 going to go to the top of the agency. Yeah, that's something we've got to start looking into now.

00:29:24.760 The January 6th committee, it seems Mike Johnson is maybe dragging his feet on. They had a real

00:29:29.920 a fake January 6th committee, the last administration, the last term. It's time for a real

00:29:34.620 January 6th committee to expose everything that went on. And since now we're we're finally on

00:29:41.000 the track of track of truth, justice in the American way, with James Comey being indicted

00:29:45.460 yesterday because nobody is above the law. And I repeat, nobody's above the law. I think it's time

00:29:50.780 we bring Christopher Wray back in to see if his memory changed or see if anything in his mind perhaps

00:29:58.060 changed from when he made those statements to Congress the first time and give him an opportunity

00:30:02.840 to correct the record before it's too late. What do you think?

00:30:07.340 Be interesting to see what he would what he would say. I don't know. I know the the new committee under

00:30:13.220 Barry Loudermilk, Barry Loudermilk, as the subpoena authority, I think they should bring in some people

00:30:21.220 regardless if they've gotten pardons and really, you know, hold their feet to the fire and get starting

00:30:26.900 in some answers to some of these questions, whether it's Christopher Wray and I know he wasn't one of

00:30:31.140 the people part and I'm talking about some of the other ones from the previous January 6th select

00:30:34.820 committee members, Millie, people like that. There's still a lot of questions to be answered.

00:30:39.940 And I think with with any luck, they're going to get out there and get some of these questions answered.

00:30:44.020 I mean, you know, one of the big things that got a big takeaway from that article was not only the

00:30:49.320 number of agents that were deployed up to the Capitol was just how many people within the FBI

00:30:55.000 started submitting testimony or points of discussion to the after action committee talking about how come

00:31:03.160 we're going overboard with some of these prosecutions. I mean, my concern is what what communications were

00:31:08.580 taking place between the legislative branch and the executive branch pushing for these enhanced

00:31:13.080 prosecutions. Hakeem Jeffrey said last week, House Minority Leader, that the Republicans, his direct

00:31:20.580 quote, let me say it here. I don't want to to misquote him because I'm not a Democrat. Jeffrey says GOP will

00:31:27.600 quote regret revisiting January 6th. What kind of threat is that? They've chief, they've made everyone's

00:31:34.520 life hell, including yours, by the way, which people don't realize because your story doesn't get enough

00:31:39.040 news, which is why I try to get you on here as much as we possibly can to talk about this when

00:31:44.020 these stories come out. They've made everyone's life hell, locked up innocent people, thousands of

00:31:50.740 them in a gulag. That's not even to get to the fact of what they did to Donald Trump and his family

00:31:55.680 or what they did to Steve Bannon or what they did to Peter or anyone who was remotely involved with that

00:32:01.660 day on January 6th. And he's saying it's it's you're going to regret it. Are we supposed to just

00:32:08.340 live by these threats by these people who want us? I mean, off the face of this earth and you're not

00:32:14.500 even a political person. Yeah, I do my best to try and stay apolitical when I'm wearing my chief's

00:32:21.720 hat. I'll tell you, it goes back to the old adage. You get flack when you're above above the target.

00:32:27.680 I think he's showing concern. I think when he starts saying that type of stuff, I think he's

00:32:32.100 trying to do everything he can to get prevent the committee from moving forward. I don't think

00:32:36.640 there's anything that they could bring forward that they hadn't already brought forward in their

00:32:41.360 Hollywood produced hearings. So we'll see. We'll see what what comes out of it. But I look forward to

00:32:48.960 to the hearing. I'm happy to help him in any way I can. But yeah, you're right. It's been it's been a

00:32:54.000 rough four and a half years, you know, after having to try and get National Guard twice in advance of

00:32:59.040 January 6th, denied for 11 times on January 6th itself, and then be forced to resign and lose my

00:33:05.780 retirement and stuff like that. That's it's been a tough four and a half years. The good news is chief

00:33:10.140 is you don't have to and I'm not kissing your butt because I've read every single document with your name

00:33:15.300 in it. The good news is and the reason why they haven't come after you further, I believe, is because

00:33:19.840 you have every single receipt possible. I mean, your name is on every single one of these documents

00:33:26.180 that I've read. And nine out of 10 of them say chief son is asking for this. Chief son is asking for

00:33:32.740 that. That's my belief of why they didn't come after you. I mean, taking your pension away is bad

00:33:38.300 enough to begin with, but come after you in some sort of criminal sense like they did to everyone else

00:33:41.580 because you had receipts that I mean, completely exonerated and you being fired on that day and

00:33:46.460 forced to resign proves the point that, you know, they needed some sort of scapegoat and they used

00:33:52.680 you as it. Yeah, it's really concerning why they had to get me out of there as quickly as they did.

00:33:57.600 I mean, even even the next day I was contacted and had to move out of my office and they cut me off from

00:34:01.360 all my access into the into the Capitol Police, which is very concerning itself. But yeah, you're you're

00:34:08.220 right. I forgot the second part of your question. I apologize. No, I was just I was just giving you

00:34:14.240 credit for for getting it right. Yeah, that's that's what I'm going to say. I'm sorry. Just

00:34:18.300 let me tell you, being a 30 year law enforcement officer, I keep really good notes. When when they

00:34:24.560 forced me out, I sat down and I started writing down everything I had, collecting information. And I

00:34:29.940 my hat squad and my hat goes off to the whistleblowers within the U.S. Capitol Police Intelligence

00:34:35.520 division that came out in my behalf, the whistleblowers in the military that came out on my

00:34:40.560 behalf that started providing me more information and it all started coming together. So I greatly

00:34:45.600 appreciate that. And I've gotten that comment from a lot of people and several people up on the hill

00:34:50.800 refer to my book as the defendant after action. So I appreciate that. All I all I wanted was the truth

00:34:57.120 to get out there. And I'm hoping and I believe more information is getting ready to come out. I think

00:35:02.360 there's more puzzle pieces coming together. And with any luck, we're gonna have some real big

00:35:07.020 answers here shortly. Yeah, we need some sort of accountability, folks. Steve mentioned his book.

00:35:12.420 And we want to recommend it to you. Highly Courage Under Fire, the definitive account from inside the

00:35:17.000 Capitol on January 6th. If you want to support Steven and his movement and you heard of me, he's not

00:35:22.380 being hyperbolic about anything. They took this man's life away. They took away his pension.

00:35:28.260 People work 20, 30, 40 years. So at the end of the day, can eventually retire. Not everyone has a

00:35:36.720 401k. Some people rely on a pension so that they can retire. As we know, Social Security is probably

00:35:42.160 not going to be around here forever. So if you want to support Chief Stevenson, I encourage everybody to

00:35:47.380 please go out, buy a copy of his book, buy multiple copies, send them to your friends on the left who are

00:35:53.500 just paranoid and have been completely wrong about January 6th and what happened on that day. And you

00:35:58.860 can get it on Amazon or wherever you guys get your books. But if you want to support the Chief, we

00:36:03.040 recommend going to Amazon. Chief, before we wrap up, I want to ask you one more question.

00:36:09.080 Has your mind changed? I'm sure it has. But has your mind changed from the day January 6th happened

00:36:15.960 to now? What has changed in your mind about that day that you believed on that day that you no longer

00:36:21.540 believe and vice versa? Wow. The thing that I think is, well, it's something I thought about a lot is, you

00:36:32.900 know, initially, a lot of people were coming out and some very close friends of mine, people that in law

00:36:37.840 enforcement, people that had been previously with the USCP have been saying, you know, that it really

00:36:44.180 looks like there were this was some form of a setup, you know, that the intelligence was kept from

00:36:49.540 you, the resources was kept from you. And I'm a person that tries to stick to fact. But when you

00:36:55.120 see more and more come out, now you see some of the video of Speaker Pelosi, you know, being escorted

00:37:00.200 off the hill saying, you know, you know, how come there wasn't more, you know, National Guard here,

00:37:04.060 I take responsibility for that. And then you see her working with some of her aides to come up with

00:37:08.120 the plan to, to call for my resignation. You begin to wonder, you know, is, you know, is there a

00:37:13.740 faction of people out there that actually wanted to see something like this happen that wanted to

00:37:17.840 discredit or make a political movement look bad, and really take them out of commission once and

00:37:24.320 for all? I don't know. But it, it, it sure, you know, it seems like there's more and more evidence

00:37:30.220 kind of leaning that way. So you tend to wonder.

00:37:33.260 You're over the target comment earlier is exactly what you just laid out. You're absolutely 100%

00:37:38.360 correct. I believe and this is my opinion doesn't necessarily be the opinion yours, you don't have

00:37:42.060 to agree with me. I believe January 6th was probably the biggest setup in American history

00:37:47.060 by people inside the federal government who wanted to frame somebody or something to ensure they never

00:37:55.260 returned to office. And that person is Donald Trump. They tried to get him in 2016 with the Russia,

00:37:59.540 Russia, Russia. It was all a hoax. They tried to get him with Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. That was 0.77

00:38:03.920 another hoax. They tried to get him with everything under the sun. And they believed in my opinion,

00:38:08.420 chief, that January 6th was going to be the day that they were going to get him because he

00:38:12.200 quote unquote caused an insurrection and committed treason inside this country. It turned out

00:38:18.180 the court of public opinion, which in my opinion is the most crucial court in this country,

00:38:25.200 disagreed with them overwhelmingly on November 5th. You get the last word here, chief.

00:38:29.960 Well, I was going to say, you know, it, it does appear like they never expected him to come back into

00:38:34.080 office. And that kind of changed the whole equation when he did, but we shall see. I keep my fingers

00:38:39.360 crossed. I pray every day. And I just hope more information comes out because as it does, I think

00:38:45.180 the American people are finding more and more about the truth. You're absolutely right, folks. That book

00:38:49.120 is Courage Under Fire, the definitive account from inside the Capitol on January 6th. You can get the

00:38:53.600 paperback copy on amazon.com. We encourage you. We'll put the link to buy the book in this episode,

00:39:00.000 or if you guys are Amazon savvy, unlike me, you can just go to Amazon. You can type in Stephen

00:39:05.020 Sunder. You can type in the book title and you can get your copies there. We recommend it to you

00:39:09.060 highly. Chief Stephen Sunder, come back on the show soon, brother. We appreciate it and best of luck

00:39:13.320 in everything. Gladly too. And I appreciate you mentioning the paperback. I'd highly recommend

00:39:17.760 get the paperback. It has the most up-to-date information. It's the latest version from last December

00:39:22.920 and look forward to hearing what people want to say about it, but the outpouring of support has been

00:39:27.380 absolutely incredible. And that's really what's helped me through this whole thing. So thank you

00:39:31.320 very much. Just the kind comments I've gotten. So thank you very much for the opportunity to be

00:39:35.600 on your show, John. Anytime, Chief. And folks, go buy a copy, two, three, four of them, and give

00:39:40.540 them out as gifts, even to your liberal friends. Chief Son, come back soon, brother. Absolutely.

00:39:45.440 Thanks, everybody. That's all for us today here on The Great America Show. And that's all for us this

00:39:49.480 week. We wrap up this week with really, really just great news. And I hope everybody has a

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The Great America Show - September 26, 2025

FINALLY! Comey indicted as MASSIVE J6 docs are revealed!

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