The Great America Show - FITTON： MARXIST DEMS HOLDING TRUMP HOSTAGE

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00:00:33.900 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:36.960 Great to have you with us.

00:00:38.180 Welcome.

00:00:39.220 President Trump is on trial in New York.

00:00:41.700 He's being held hostage by the corrupt Marxist-dim judiciary, but it's not stopping him from getting out and talking with voters and the American people.

00:00:51.940 Trump yesterday stopping by a union job site in downtown Manhattan to just say hello to those workers, union workers, big union workers.

00:01:03.240 And President Trump was asked how important the union vote is considering the long history that unions have in supporting Democrats.

00:01:12.240 President Trump said he doesn't think any one of these hardworking Americans will support the Marxist-dim puppet Joe Biden.

00:01:21.240 How important is the union vote?

00:01:23.220 And you're here in New York City.

00:01:24.360 You're talking with these members.

00:01:25.620 Do you think you can maybe change some of their minds if they were lifelong Democrats to vote for you?

00:01:29.460 I think these maybe were Democrats, but for me, they're a Republican.

00:01:33.240 There's not a Democrat in there.

00:01:34.960 These are people.

00:01:35.980 Look at that building.

00:01:36.860 Look what we can do.

00:01:38.280 We built a lot of great buildings in the city with these people, and they've given me great support.

00:01:44.700 They're really amazing.

00:01:46.600 You know what?

00:01:47.740 They're very, very talented people.

00:01:50.540 They don't get the credit for it.

00:01:52.040 Very few people can do what they do.

00:01:53.900 We used to do three floors a week in concrete, and it was guys like this that did it.

00:01:58.940 So it's very amazing.

00:01:59.980 The steam fitter union local 639 boss Bob Bartels said he's done his own polling inside the union and says President Trump is up three votes for every one Biden supporter.

00:02:14.760 Bartels said Americans are tired of what is going on in America with high inflation, low economic growth, high crime, and runaway illegal aliens.

00:02:26.040 It was great to see the president come and engaging with the blue-collar worker of New York City.

00:02:31.920 We basically built New York.

00:02:33.860 The union movement has made the middle class.

00:02:36.940 And we are a very patriotic union, and we are pro-America.

00:02:42.600 So my members right now, I put out a poll in my union.

00:02:47.960 President Trump is leading Joe Biden three to one on my presidential poll out of my 9,000 members right now.

00:02:54.300 We are very tired of the situation with groceries, inflation, gas prices, illegal immigration, crime. 1.00

00:03:05.060 We're living it every day in New York City.

00:03:07.120 The steam fitters union obviously is supporting Donald Trump three to one.

00:03:12.560 And by the way, hopefully that will be an example to all the other big unions in big blue states.

00:03:18.120 And while President Trump is being held hostage in New York courtrooms, his attorneys were a few hundred miles south in Washington, D.C., arguing before the Supreme Court for presidential immunity.

00:03:29.960 Trump attorney, John Sauer, telling the Supreme Court that without presidential immunity from criminal prosecution, there can be no presidency as we know it.

00:03:41.400 If a president can be charged, put on trial, and in prison for his most controversial decisions as soon as he leaves office, that looming threat will distort the president's decision-making precisely when bold and fearless action would be most needed.

00:03:56.880 For example, how about President Truman when he dropped the atomic bomb?

00:04:03.260 Should he have been held responsible?

00:04:05.320 I don't think so.

00:04:06.820 Here's John Sauer.

00:04:08.120 Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the court, without presidential immunity from criminal prosecution, there can be no presidency as we know it.

00:04:18.180 For 234 years of American history, no president was ever prosecuted for his official acts.

00:04:25.020 The framers of our Constitution viewed an energetic executive as essential to securing liberty.

00:04:33.380 If a president can be charged, put on trial, and imprisoned for his most controversial decisions as soon as he leaves office, that looming threat will distort the president's decision-making precisely when bold and fearless action is most needed.

00:04:48.640 Every current president will face de facto blackmail and extortion by his political rivals while he is still in office.

00:04:59.140 The implications of the court's decision here extend far beyond the facts of this case.

00:05:05.400 Could President George W. Bush have been sent to prison for obstructing an official proceeding or allegedly lying to Congress to induce war in Iraq?

00:05:18.600 Could President Obama be charged with murder for killing U.S. citizens abroad by drone strike?

00:05:24.100 Could President Biden someday be charged with unlawfully inducing immigrants to enter the country illegally for his border policies?

00:05:34.520 The answer to all these questions is no.

00:05:38.620 Prosecuting the president for his official acts is an innovation with no foothold in history or tradition and incompatible with our constitutional structure.

00:05:47.220 The original meaning of the executive vesting clause, the framers' understanding and intent, an unbroken historical tradition spanning 200 years, and policy considerations rooted in the separation of powers all counsel against it.

00:06:03.580 I welcome the court's questions.

00:06:05.860 And Justice Alito seemed to almost completely agree with Sauer's argument, asking the Marxist prosecutors why Trump is the only former president to have ever been charged.

00:06:16.320 What about President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision to intern Japanese Americans during World War II?

00:06:23.760 Couldn't that have been charged?

00:06:25.320 Take a listen to DOJ corrupt attorney Michael Dreeben and Justice Alito.

00:06:32.420 You, Mr. Sauer, and others have identified events in the past where presidents have engaged in conduct that might have been charged as a federal crime.

00:06:44.000 And you say, well, no, that's not really true.

00:06:48.340 This is page 42 of your brief.

00:06:50.300 So what about President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision to intern Japanese Americans during World War II?

00:06:57.720 Couldn't that have been charged under 18 U.S.C. 241, conspiracy against civil rights?

00:07:04.200 Today, yes, given the court's decision in Trump versus the United States, in which the, you know, Trump versus Hawaii, excuse me, where the court said Korematsu is overruled.

00:07:19.300 I mean, President Roosevelt made that decision with the advice of his attorney general.

00:07:23.340 That's a layer of safeguarding.

00:07:23.980 Is that really true?

00:07:24.820 I thought Attorney General Biddle thought that there was really no threat of sabotage, as did J. Edgar Hoover.

00:07:32.320 So I think that there is a lot of historical controversy, but it underscores that that occurred during wartime.

00:07:40.360 It implicates potential commander in chief concerns, concerns about the exigencies of national defense that might provide an as applied Article II challenge at the time.

00:07:53.540 I'm not suggesting today, but the idea that a decision that was made and ultimately endorsed by this court, perhaps wrongly in the Korematsu case, would support criminal prosecution under 241, which requires under United States versus Lanier that the right have been made specific so that there is notice to the president.

00:08:13.340 I don't think that would have been satisfied.

00:08:14.820 All right.

00:08:15.020 Well, we could go through other historical examples.

00:08:17.340 I won't do that.

00:08:18.000 And so we wait for the official decision from the Supreme Court, and hopefully they will show all of the corrupt courts how they should behave and conduct themselves and rule.

00:08:29.620 Our guest now, along with his organization, has been covering President Trump and his persecution by the Marxist Dems for years.

00:08:38.760 And Judicial Watch has been pushing back on all of that government corruption and overreach.

00:08:44.780 And joining us now is the man who leads a very important watchdog group, I think the most important watchdog group in Washington, Judicial Watch, Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

00:08:56.240 Tom, great to have you back with us.

00:08:58.360 Thank you, Lou.

00:08:59.040 Thank you for having me.

00:09:00.500 Everyone is waiting on tenderhooks for this Supreme Court to hold these arguments and to begin the process of reaching a ruling, a decision.

00:09:10.740 Your thoughts on how to how today went and how you expect the case to go.

00:09:18.200 Well, thankfully, there were no surprises in the sense that there's a strong majority, it seems, for essentially, in my view, ending the cases against Trump by Jack Smith, both here in Washington, D.C.

00:09:31.740 and Miami, over documents and his efforts to ensure a lawful election outcome in 2020.

00:09:40.560 And frankly, it takes the wind out of the sails and probably shuts down.

00:09:44.700 In effect, if the if if the final decision follows what the arguments seem to be following, we'll shut down Fannie Willis's operation down in Georgia as well.

00:09:57.740 Now, you know, the big issue for listeners and viewers who haven't followed this is that, you know, Jack Smith and the Biden regime decided after 250 years that they could start indicting presidents for their official acts as presidents after they leave office.

00:10:16.020 Now, I don't know why they have to wait till after they leave office, but that's another matter.

00:10:21.220 And Trump's people said, well, this is that's craziness.

00:10:24.520 Obviously, no president is going to be able to operate if they're he's facing a prosecutor the minute he gets out of office.

00:10:32.880 And the Supreme Court, the super I wouldn't say a supermajority, but it looks like he's going to get a six three majority in the least agreeing with him.

00:10:43.760 And Trump's going to be vindicated again.

00:10:46.520 And at least the lawfare will suffer a significant battle.

00:10:51.340 But there are going to be many battles up ahead.

00:10:53.740 You know, there's, you know, the equivalent of battles of the bulge, I would submit, as the left continues, it's it's jihad against the rule of law and constitutional government.

00:11:05.620 Yeah, without any question at all.

00:11:08.560 And the it was to be disconcerting to hear the I'll put it this way, the the left wing judges on the court, justices, listening to their reasoning, listening to their their logic and their knowledge of law, I will leave to others.

00:11:29.320 But their logic was frightening and their concerns and hypotheticals were bizarre and left me just wondering why they they aren't considered part of the evidence for the reason that a president needs presidential immunity.

00:11:47.760 I mean, I mean, these these the left is a little scary, both in their knowledge base and in their capacity for reason and where that reason leads them.

00:11:57.560 Yeah. Yeah. If the goal for judges and prosecutors is to get a man, Trump.

00:12:05.440 You know, the law becomes inconsequential logic becomes inconsequential in the public good becomes inconsequential.

00:12:13.380 And I mean, to me, what I thought was illustrative of just, you know, or the mission of just how awful the Biden administration is here.

00:12:24.520 There was this. There was a suggestion by the solicitor general, because people are saying, well, what about prior presidents?

00:12:35.600 Well, no prior president, the Biden Justice Department said, has ever committed a crime while in office.

00:12:42.240 You know, you know, you know, you know, basically, you know, they're saying is it's just about Trump.

00:12:51.020 Right. And when they're faced with questions about what happens to prior presidents, they say, don't worry, it's just about Trump or don't worry.

00:12:59.800 You can trust the Justice Department and and all the checks in place in the deep state to ensure that a president isn't abused.

00:13:09.040 And when you're abusing a president lawlessly, you're abusing our Constitution and and and the very structure of our constitutional republic.

00:13:19.620 And that structure is designed to protect our liberty.

00:13:23.920 And it's and the reality is these are folks, if anyone is to be protecting the Constitution, these are the people to do it.

00:13:31.980 But the idea that any local prosecutor, any state prosecutor, frankly, any federal prosecutor can at will, as it serves his or her political purpose, bring charges against the president of the United States.

00:13:47.660 It is to me right now, the whole country is a is a it's a you know, it's an evidence cabinet right now and open it up and you see Fulton County, you see the D.C.'s courts, you see the New York courts, every one of them conspiring to interfere with the election, quote unquote.

00:14:08.800 That means kill Trump, you've got the Congress of the Democratic Party that is now trying to take away his Secret Service protection. 0.53

00:14:19.200 They're trying not only to imprison him, but they would like to kill him as well. 0.99

00:14:23.500 This is outrageous.

00:14:24.720 And if that Supreme Court does not understand that that is evidence for that bears directly on this case in a practical and pragmatic and inescapable way, I don't know what it will take.

00:14:40.660 Yeah, I'm hopeful and I expect the court to rule the right way, whether it will be as aggressive and provide Trump all the relief I think he deserves.

00:14:50.880 I don't know.

00:14:51.520 They what I what they're what I'm hearing is from some of the arguments is they might want to just kick it downstairs and force the president to go through a process while the court while while the Biden Justice Department tries to delineate what was official and what's personal in his acts while he was in the presidency, which is, you know.

00:15:13.140 So, or I would think that any normal person would see something that you can't really separate the two from, especially in matters of elections and campaigning and enforcing the rule of law as it relates to all of that.

00:15:26.840 So, you know, it would be an important victory and vindication for the rule of law.

00:15:32.360 But as you're highlighting these threats continue right now, the president is a political hostage up in New York where he's being held hostage for specious charges in a kangaroo court proceeding.

00:15:44.200 Not only is he being abused. I want to I want to put I want to stand up for those jurors who are being abused.

00:15:51.960 You can put a lipstick on a pig. No jury is going to be able to ratify that poisonous judicial process up there that is an indictment and a prosecution about nothing. 0.91

00:16:04.540 I mean, we're still not clear what the full scope of the charges that they're going after Trump on.

00:16:11.500 And the judge doesn't care. He's a Biden, literally a Biden donor.

00:16:18.480 And, you know, compromise six ways to Sunday under basic standards of judicial ethics.

00:16:25.080 And of course, Bragg is a Democratic prosecutor.

00:16:28.280 Heck, Lou, did you see who made the opening argument for the prosecution up in New York?

00:16:32.720 A former Biden appointee from the Justice Department.

00:16:38.380 Yeah, it's highlighting correctly.

00:16:40.800 And if I were the president or maybe the next honest president, we'll have to wait for that.

00:16:46.100 I'd appoint personally a special prosecutor to investigate this grand conspiracy, as you've laid out, by the Democratic Party and the Biden regime.

00:16:55.880 They're allied elected prosecutors in Arizona now and New York and elsewhere, not only in Georgia, but Michigan.

00:17:06.960 They've got civil process as well to investigate this conspiracy against our elections.

00:17:13.620 And this malicious effort to deprive Donald Trump and millions of Americans, their civil rights under law and to abuse their power to take away their civil rights under color law, which is illegal.

00:17:28.780 And that's the crime I think means that this should be what we're seeing here in New York is not evidence of wrongdoing by Trump, but evidence of criminality by the Democratic Party machine in New York that's trying to make him the political prisoner.

00:17:47.100 And as you see, a Democratic leader here in the House of Representatives, Benny Thompson, and it's worth talking about further, introduced legislation.

00:17:56.780 And of course, remember, he was the the minion working for Pelosi on the January 6th committee running that show show trial proceeding to remove the Secret Service protection of Donald Trump.

00:18:09.360 And it's all targeted at Trump.

00:18:10.620 They're pretending it will be neutrally applied, but it's only written for Trump.

00:18:14.860 Yeah.

00:18:15.140 If he gets sent to jail for a year or more, whatever their standard is.

00:18:19.980 So under their logic, they want to be able to send Trump to Rikers Island for a year without Secret Service protection, which is a death sentence.

00:18:29.880 Yeah, no question about it.

00:18:31.200 And this is also a death sentence for for the Constitutional Republic, because if the Marxist Dems, if this corrupt deep state succeeds against Donald Trump, I truly believe it is the end for us.

00:18:50.860 And people had better understand that the stakes.

00:18:53.960 And we're going to get to that as we continue with Judicial Watch's Tom Fitton.

00:18:58.300 Please stay with us.

00:18:59.400 We're going to be right back.

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00:20:40.840 We're talking with Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch.

00:20:44.820 And Tom, let me begin with this.

00:20:47.700 This is a remarkable moment to me, at least.

00:20:51.100 We now have a court document that indicates Jack Smith and the FBI were after Obama and North Korea-related documents when they went after Donald Trump and his documents in Mar-a-Lago.

00:21:08.320 Your thoughts?

00:21:10.080 Yeah, I don't know if that was Jack Smith at the time.

00:21:12.440 It was the Biden administration.

00:21:15.480 Yeah.

00:21:15.640 I mean, what's happening or what had happened was the National Archives has this view that they are the law when it comes to presidential records.

00:21:24.920 And as we've highlighted, no, the person who decides what's a presidential record versus a personal record is, unsurprisingly, the president of the United States, not a bureaucrat who literally works for them.

00:21:38.180 And so when Barack Obama, probably mistakenly by all accounts, kept a personal memento, I think it was a letter sent to him personally and maybe the pen that was signed, I forget the detail.

00:21:53.960 They were like, well, that's ours.

00:21:55.280 And, of course, why then, you know, Obama gang, you know, pretended, oh, yeah, they're right, as opposed to just making the stance to saying, well, this is his personal record.

00:22:06.380 If you want it for history purposes, you can have it.

00:22:09.220 But, you know, stop pretending it's yours.

00:22:11.860 And, indeed, that's how they started going after Trump.

00:22:14.660 They remember that map he had with the hurricane and there was the drawing.

00:22:19.140 They wanted that as a, quote, a presidential record.

00:22:24.140 Well, to me, that's a quintessential personal record if he decides to keep it as memento and just keep it because this is something or a letter from him to Obama.

00:22:35.220 I think that was one of the other issues that they were going after him on.

00:22:39.400 So these are kind of obviously personal records and the bureaucrats should not be the tail wagging the dog in our constitutional republic.

00:22:50.260 And, of course, they only prosecute Trump and all these other presidents who've kept records get a free pass.

00:23:00.420 You know, it really does speak to how weak the Republican Party is.

00:23:03.580 They would never have gone after Trump with this banality, this viciousness and arrogance.

00:23:14.840 If the Republican Party had any strength to it at all, whether it be on Wall Street or corporate America, had any institutional strength.

00:23:25.780 Certainly they don't have it in government.

00:23:27.480 I just can't to watch the arrogance of these people deciding what is law.

00:23:34.660 Suddenly the National Archives are part of a grand, a grand conspiracy against the Trump administration.

00:23:44.020 And for what reason?

00:23:45.680 And suddenly we find out they're making all sorts of decisions at the at the behest and in behalf of Joe Biden.

00:23:53.320 It's really just a crazy moment.

00:23:55.500 You know, and you write about the Republican Party, at least, you know, obviously there are always members that kind of want to do the right thing, but certainly the leadership.

00:24:06.440 And I would say even some of our friends on the Hill who are hardcore conservatives that really drop the ball when it comes to confronting this corruption or kind of this war, this lawfare against Trump and millions of other Americans.

00:24:21.300 You know, they are.

00:24:26.080 Bragg is harassing Trump right now.

00:24:29.460 Why aren't there Republicans in the courtroom with him?

00:24:32.260 Right.

00:24:32.740 Why aren't there press conferences outside the courthouse?

00:24:35.060 Why isn't Bragg and people who've talked to him in other agencies being brought before Congress every day for each day the trials going forward?

00:24:46.900 You know, and I kind of make the obviously that's not going to happen, nor would it ever.

00:24:50.560 But I'm just trying to make the point there's oversight potential here and a defunding opportunity with defunding not only Jack Smith, but curtailing federal funding to jurisdictions who are harassing and abusing Trump and other innocents, all of which they've taken a pass on.

00:25:07.840 And concurrently, we're now being told, and I've been kind of yelling about it for two weeks now, the Republicans want to give up on Biden impeachment.

00:25:16.460 They think they don't have the votes.

00:25:18.520 So, of course, they're not going to actually provide leadership to get the votes or educate the public as to why it's necessary.

00:25:24.640 They're just going to let it die on the vine.

00:25:26.900 Yeah. Watching Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, and his performance, and it is performative, everything he's doing is performative.

00:25:38.620 That's right. And that's no criticism. That's a fact. It's a reality.

00:25:43.180 It's just who it is, doing what he does.

00:25:45.840 Yeah.

00:25:45.980 And meanwhile, the Republicans, there are a couple of congressmen who are talking about, you know, he's a Christian.

00:25:53.780 There's going to be a terrible blowback against you if you criticize the Christian incompetent oaf who is a pretend figure in the speakership. 0.99

00:26:08.380 I'm sorry. That's just nonsense. And they know it's nonsense. 0.99

00:26:12.100 The evangelical community is much smarter than that. The Catholic Church is much smarter than that. 0.75

00:26:17.020 I can't think of a denomination that is so dumb that they would not see the betrayal by Mike Johnson of the fundamental principles, the promises he made. 1.00

00:26:29.000 My goodness, it's a disaster. How can it be? 0.99

00:26:36.680 Well, I mean, we could go over the political reasons for how can it be.

00:26:40.280 And I think even Johnson would laugh at people saying he shouldn't be held accountable because of his religious beliefs.

00:26:47.960 I mean, no one doubts that, you know, he he tries to be a Christian person and take that Christian approach.

00:26:54.880 But he would be probably the first, based on my experience with him, to tell you, yeah, hold me accountable.

00:27:00.000 You know, and I disagree with you tactically about where we should go, but hold me accountable and to hold him accountable means the highlight, the failure of leadership by him and other Republicans on the Hill.

00:27:11.700 And this is where I would differ even from my conservative friends.

00:27:14.840 It's not just Mike Johnson.

00:27:16.960 No, it's the House Freedom Caucus.

00:27:20.040 I don't know about you.

00:27:21.160 They seem all over the place on a lot of these issues, certainly on these core corruption issues.

00:27:26.740 And I would just submit Republicans would do a lot better if they appreciated that when it comes to oversight and accountability, if they had acted as if they had a 60 seat majority.

00:27:39.540 And spent more time on that rather than trying to thread the needle on policy issues where it was obvious they were going to have much more difficulty.

00:27:51.760 And, of course, they never take my political advice.

00:27:54.220 So in the end, we get nothing.

00:27:55.880 We don't get the good policy and we don't get the effective oversight.

00:28:01.000 Now, it's better than it used to be, but still woefully insufficient and inexcusably so, given the resources available to the House Republicans.

00:28:09.540 Are you surprised that Donald Trump has backed him to a considerable extent?

00:28:18.380 No.

00:28:20.140 You know, I think Donald Trump's a nice guy.

00:28:23.340 You know, he deals with you in business.

00:28:26.800 And my guess is he's developed a relationship with Michael Johnson, with Speaker Johnson and, you know, with other past leaders.

00:28:34.160 And, you know, I don't expect, you know, Donald Trump isn't the type of president and he isn't the type of politician or the type of person who who just quickly throws people overboard at the drop of a hat.

00:28:47.160 Now, there now he will throw them overboard sometimes, usually appropriately.

00:28:52.920 So usually a little late.

00:28:55.720 Well, usually and usually a little late.

00:28:57.680 It's true.

00:28:58.880 It's true.

00:29:00.280 And he'd be the first to admit that, you know, I think Trump is entirely too nice to a politician.

00:29:06.560 Do you know, that's the interesting thing.

00:29:08.700 I think one of his interesting character traits.

00:29:11.500 He's as tough as anybody could possibly be.

00:29:14.460 Smart as a whip.

00:29:15.900 Bright, imaginative, original thinker.

00:29:18.560 Which really just confounds the Marxist Dems.

00:29:21.920 They cannot comprehend the battle they're in with a superior force, even if it's a force of one.

00:29:28.600 And at the same time, the man has a capacity for personal warmth, charity, generosity.

00:29:37.260 And he also has another characteristic.

00:29:40.980 And that is he likes to be in the company of friends.

00:29:45.240 And that's the way it is.

00:29:47.040 And he will make John, Tom, what is his name?

00:29:49.980 Mike Johnson, a friend.

00:29:52.320 Until he is, until there is an egregious breach by Johnson that is inescapable.

00:30:00.300 I thought it might be, by the way, the warrantless wiretap.

00:30:04.560 Trump told him it's a bad idea and left it at that.

00:30:07.960 We're going to come right back.

00:30:09.200 We're talking with Tom Fitton.

00:30:10.700 And you don't want to miss a word of what he says here next.

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00:30:47.100 We're back now with Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

00:30:56.340 And as I said at the outset, Judicial Watch, in my opinion, is the most important watchdog group in Washington, D.C., without any question.

00:31:04.740 They have, as you know, brought a $30 million wrongful death suit in the murder of Ashley Babbitt.

00:31:12.920 And I want to ask you how that suit against the government is going.

00:31:17.900 What is your take on the response?

00:31:20.640 So we're representing, our lawyers are representing her estate and her family, you know, her husband, widower Aaron Babbitt.

00:31:30.600 I don't know if you've had him on your program before.

00:31:33.560 It's a $30 million wrongful death action against the federal government.

00:31:37.620 And it was filed where they live, out in San Diego, the Southern District of California.

00:31:42.980 So that was filed in January, that was January 5th, 2024, just a few months ago.

00:31:48.600 And what was the Biden administration's first response?

00:31:52.140 To move it, to move the case out of Southern California to here in D.C.

00:31:58.640 And I encourage your viewers and listeners to go to our website and look at our briefs and response.

00:32:04.660 It's pretty clear the reason they want to move it here is because it's forum shopping.

00:32:10.300 They believe, and I think quite rightfully, that they will have more friendly courts here for their cause.

00:32:17.100 There's bias against January 6th.

00:32:19.800 There's bias specifically that we've highlighted by district court judges here in Washington, D.C. against Ashley herself.

00:32:27.460 And so we're opposing her case being moved here.

00:32:30.980 And then secondly, another thing that popped up in our separate litigation, but it's illustrative of just how abused Ashley was by this regime here, is that the FBI, we found through FOIA litigation, was investigating Ashley for criminal allegations after she died for months.

00:32:50.340 So why on earth would they be doing that other than to harass her family and friends and, frankly, come up with after-the-fact justifications for her illicit killing?

00:33:04.940 Truly outrageous.

00:33:06.240 And, Tom, this would be concurrent, contemporaneous with the Marxist Dems efforts, the Pelosi machine, to hide Lieutenant Michael Byrd from the public for six months.

00:33:20.040 They succeeded in stashing him away.

00:33:25.000 It's all part of a piece, isn't it?

00:33:27.440 It sure is.

00:33:28.440 And, you know, just think back to, well, think to every other officer-involved shooting and how public the investigations are and the level of accountability for those police officers, none of which applied to Byrd.

00:33:44.320 So he's kept secret.

00:33:46.240 The FBI is harassing Ashley Babbitt's legacy and family and trying to justify her death.

00:33:52.460 And then a little bit later in the year, we found out they put up Lieutenant Byrd, her killer, in Andrews Air Force Base, or what is now Joint Base Andrews, in the VIP suite that's usually reserved for generals for four or five months.

00:34:12.680 It's just astonishing to me.

00:34:14.580 So I want to know, in our lawsuit against the U.S. government over the Congressional Police Office's shooting of Ashley Babbitt, I wonder what Congress's position is on that litigation.

00:34:25.720 What's Speaker Johnson's position?

00:34:29.060 Well, it's difficult to know what his position is because it changes.

00:34:32.720 And if he does enunciate a position, he reverses it at the least opportune moments.

00:34:41.700 It's very difficult.

00:34:43.180 And to see the way in which the 118th Congress is whimpering to the end of this pivotal year, this presidential election year, is dispiriting, I think, for a lot of those Republican conference members, don't you?

00:35:00.940 Oh, the year's over.

00:35:02.500 It's over.

00:35:03.700 Yeah.

00:35:03.920 Now, the next big legislative issue will be, I mean, there'll be other smaller issues that pop up, obviously, but effectively, everything done until it gets closer to September 30th, when you have a new fiscal year and they're supposed to have a new budget in place.

00:35:23.560 And so the question then is, are they going to keep on funding fully the destruction of our nation, the invasion of our nation, the abuse of Trump?

00:35:34.460 And how long will they do it for?

00:35:36.220 Will they do it for in a way that will negate the next president's ability to set a budget in the next year?

00:35:43.580 Or will they have a briefer funding measure that gives prerogatives to the next president and the next Congress?

00:35:51.920 So those are the challenges.

00:35:53.300 And I kind of, I don't want to be too negative, but based on past experience, I think we can guess how it's going to turn out.

00:36:01.820 Yeah, and not wishing to be negative myself, I'm not going to say amen.

00:36:08.640 I'm not going to say you're exactly right, but I will generally affirm your spirit of optimism that you're expressed.

00:36:18.820 As we go forward, this is all about Donald Trump.

00:36:23.560 He is the Republican Party.

00:36:25.860 He's not simply the leader.

00:36:26.960 He is the only one with an agenda, with a vision, and with a strategy.

00:36:34.380 And that is the sum total of the Republican Party right now.

00:36:40.120 It is fractionalized.

00:36:41.960 It is polarized.

00:36:44.360 And it also has leadership that is not questionable.

00:36:48.920 There's no question about their inadequacy.

00:36:51.920 So this is going to be a very difficult moment.

00:36:54.680 And we're going to see, I think, something remarkable.

00:36:57.800 We're going to see an entire Congress that has to ride in on the coattails of one man.

00:37:04.300 And that one man is Donald Trump.

00:37:06.620 What do you think?

00:37:07.980 I think that's an astute political analysis.

00:37:10.940 And I'm not saying it's just the blow smoking you here.

00:37:13.500 Well, it's OK.

00:37:14.100 It's the reality.

00:37:14.800 Anyway, I mean, I think pretty much every observer would highlight that Republicans are going to have difficulty retaining the House without Donald Trump.

00:37:26.080 Yeah.

00:37:26.360 I mean, if they had to fight on their own, if this was kind of an off-year election or, you know, a non-presidential election year, there'd be little doubt that I think Republicans would lose the House.

00:37:37.140 So a lot's riding on President Trump, which is why, you know, from our non-partisan, non-campaign perspective as Judicial Watch, it tells you what the motivation is for the corruption and abuse targeting him.

00:37:50.820 He right now, as we said earlier, is being held hostage in New York.

00:37:54.380 And he's unable to campaign and will be unable to campaign the way he otherwise would for two months.

00:38:01.680 And who knows how much longer, because, as you know, they're trying to wire it in a way that he gets thrown in jail on these so-called violations of the unconstitutional abusive gag orders.

00:38:16.560 So, you know, it's not a question whether he gets convicted or not, because I think, you know, the chances are he will, given the jury pool up there.

00:38:24.380 But even if he doesn't, they'll try to find a way to further restrain and constrain his freedom most directly.

00:38:31.820 And it's a dangerous time for our republic, because if he goes away to jail, his safety will be put at risk.

00:38:38.560 Our nation will be destabilized even further.

00:38:41.420 It will be a national security issue because threats, you know, are, I think, our enemies and friends abroad will see us, America, as an unreliable player on the international field because of the discord and civil strife at home caused by Biden's abusive political, Biden and the Democratic Party's maniacal efforts to jail Trump and his support.

00:39:10.860 And his supporters.

00:39:12.560 Maniacal and, in my judgment, demonic efforts.

00:39:17.440 Yes, and Macron, the president of France, saying as more threats originate from the Kremlin to Europe over Ukraine and the red lines that they have crossed, Putin's red lines.

00:39:33.180 Macron's saying, and I thought he has it right, he said that our Europe may be lost.

00:39:42.760 They understand the gravity of the peril that awaits Europe if they do not come to some sort of sensible resolution.

00:39:53.480 This is a moment for, you know, even the bravest of hearts in Europe to tremble.

00:40:00.260 That doesn't mean to, in any way, fail to fight with every ounce of energy, but a fight seems to be ahead. 0.95

00:40:08.560 And now the question is, will we go to war with a cognitively impaired, politically compromised, corrupt puppet president? 0.96

00:40:19.900 It's unthinkable. 0.96

00:40:21.540 You're concluding thoughts here today.

00:40:23.340 No, I think you're right.

00:40:25.760 And Macron is, you know, he probably wouldn't say this as directly as we would, that the transnational left and the international elites are failing.

00:40:35.180 You know, you know, at least the liberal order in the post-World War era, you know, there were it was basically liberal.

00:40:43.120 But it wasn't it wasn't failing and collapsing.

00:40:47.480 And Macron and I think many of us see a collapse of the civilized order under the pressure from despots, under pressure from internal communist revolutionaries and under pressure caused by our sheer incompetence of the liberal elites who pretend to be running the show.

00:41:09.280 And and those are the dangers that, you know, you will have these sort of collapses of the world order.

00:41:15.620 And and that's the irony here.

00:41:18.000 You know, those of us who are kind of want a strong national defense and want our defense and our foreign adventures to reflect the principles of our security first.

00:41:31.100 That is the best way to secure the world order, because it reassures people that we know where America stands.

00:41:39.220 They're always going to be on the side of America and you don't want to get on the wrong side of that fight.

00:41:45.120 Yeah. And too many in Europe, at least, have forgotten that important lesson from the past.

00:41:51.820 And Biden doesn't he's not on the side of America on these fights.

00:41:55.200 Not at all.

00:41:56.280 Not at all.

00:41:56.960 Well, whose side he's on?

00:41:59.280 Well, I think we'd have to go through his bank accounts to find out.

00:42:03.140 We'd have to look at his bank statements and talk to whoever is his elder care specialist.

00:42:09.200 Well, I guess the expression is the juice man.

00:42:13.500 I don't know what it is.

00:42:14.860 But anyway, Tom Fenton, great to have you with us.

00:42:17.960 Thanks so much.

00:42:18.580 Appreciate it.

00:42:19.200 And as always, thanks for all the great work you and Judicial Watch do.

00:42:22.820 We appreciate it.

00:42:24.380 Thanks, everybody, for being with us.

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00:42:46.000 God bless you and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - April 26, 2024

FITTON： MARXIST DEMS HOLDING TRUMP HOSTAGE

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