FITTON： QUIT FUNDING BIDEN ABUSE OF POWER
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Hunter Biden agrees to testify before Congress, but with a condition: a public hearing. Meanwhile, failed presidential candidate Mike Pence is back in the news. And sources within the Israeli government are now saying that Joe Biden is leading a pressure campaign behind closed doors that would allow Hamas to remain in power after the war with Israel.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dimes. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.
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In battle for sun, Hunter Biden agreed this week to testify before Congress, but with a condition.
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He insisted on a public hearing to prevent what he called potential distortion or selective leaks
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by Republicans. Hunter must have the Republicans mistaken. It's the Marxist Dems who are known to leak
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and distort the truth. Remember the sham J-6 committee? The special counsel Jack Smith,
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Adam Schiff, Dan Goldman, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden? Remember any of them? In a letter to Congress,
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Hunter Biden's attorney, Abby Lowell, criticized the Republican inquiry as a partisan crusade,
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accusing House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer of manipulating facts during closed-door
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sessions. Think about all the corruption of the Biden regime. It doesn't end. Lowell proposed a
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public hearing for December 13th, the very same date that had been set for the closed-door interview
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or any other December date. Despite the offer, Comer rejected it, asserting that Hunter Biden should
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first speak in private, as does everyone else, but could testify publicly later. Lowell must have
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seemed to forget this was a subpoena, not a gentle request. And failed presidential candidate Mike
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Pence is back in the news. According to a leak to ABC News, Mike Pence sat for a closed-door meeting
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with junkyard jackal special counsel Jack Smith back in April for Smith's phishing expedition into Trump.
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Pence told Smith that Trump hired a bunch of crank attorneys who espoused un-American legal theories
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and almost pushed the country toward what he called a constitutional crisis. Pence also told
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federal prosecutors that President Trump was acting recklessly on January 6, 2021. Pence also told
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investigators that in the first few days after the election, he never saw any significant allegations
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of fraud. Let us remind you, that wasn't Pence's description on January 4, 2021, just two days before
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January 6, when Pence said the election was rigged and that we're going to get to the bottom of it.
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I know we all got our doubts about the last election. And I want to assure you, I share the concerns of
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millions of Americans about voting irregularities. And I promise you, come this Wednesday, we'll have our
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day in Congress. We'll hear the objections. We'll hear the evidence.
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Pence has changed his story a number of times, but the facts show that Pence believed the election was
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stolen and he did nothing about it. And sources within the Israeli government are now saying that
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Joe Biden is reportedly leading a pressure campaign behind closed doors that would allow Hamas
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to remain in power after the war with Israel, keeping Israel from destroying the terrorist organization
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or removing their governing capabilities. Remember, Benjamin Netanyahu said, we will destroy Hamas
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in Gaza. This is in direct contradiction to what Biden spokesman John Kirby had told us about
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what the Biden administration was doing. This is what he told reporters yesterday,
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that any ceasefire with Hamas opens the door for Hamas to take advantage of Israel.
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Here is Kirby being the lone honest man in the Biden regime.
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You know, all along, you've been very clear about concerns that a broader ceasefire would only
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benefit Hamas. Sullivan was pretty clear yesterday in saying that, you know, Hamas has been able to
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gain some benefit from this. How concerned are you that the longer this truce lasts, now six days,
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that Hamas will benefit? And how do you weigh that?
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It's a real risk. You have to expect a group like Hamas, the terrorist group,
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which clearly doesn't abide by laws of war. We try to take advantage of any pause in the fighting
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for their own benefit. So we're watching that closely as well as our Israeli counterparts. You
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And our guest today is Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch. And Tom, it's great to have you
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back with us here on The Great America Show. The Biden White House caught red-handed once again.
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The White House running a surveillance program, allowing law enforcement to stoop on trillions
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of American phone records. This digital analysis service that gives the White House
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singular access to all of these records that could amount to most of the country.
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It is truly extraordinary and dangerous. And I don't think most people had ever heard of it before.
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Yeah. You know, under the guise of national security, you know, they're able to look at
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phone numbers, right? A certain subset of phone numbers, usually supposedly related to foreign
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And what they've done is they've kind of taken those numbers, say, well, who called those numbers?
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And then they look at the numbers who called those numbers and kind of branch out from there.
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So it's like six degrees of Kevin Bacon in the digital age. And as a result, and we've seen this
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time and time again with government surveillance, is that a program that most people might think,
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well, you know, we probably do need to be able to do this in terms of being able to monitor
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certain numbers. But the government, you give them an inch, they take a mile. And, you know,
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a lot of this was talked about around the Patriot Act. I don't know if this is specifically related
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to the Patriot Act. And, you know, I remember being skeptical of the civil libertarians here.
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But it turns out they were right. I mean, they didn't want to use these systems to protect
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America. They were more focused on using these systems to spy on citizens. And indeed,
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you know, the idea that millions of Americans will be caught up in government surveillance as
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a result of these systems is, I don't think anyone signed up for, even supporters of the Patriot Act.
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Well, the idea that you can have a program like this that reports into the White House
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is striking. I mean, that has to be illegal. It's a political venture, no matter almost no matter what,
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at least with the FBI and the DOJ, there is the fig leaf, the fiction that there is a layer or two
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from the political people, from the intelligence gathering, even on U.S. citizens. I mean,
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this is wholesale access by the White House to vast reams of data that they can use for political
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purposes, for blackmail, political blackmail, whatever it might be. It's really staggering to
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think that this is, and then it's outside the FOIA, the Freedom of Information Surveillance Act.
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Yeah, you know, our Judicial Watch's experience in recent years is that we've had this increased
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surveillance and concurrently an increased unwillingness on the part of government to
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share with us information about it. I mean, I know recently, for instance, around the January 6th
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investigations, there were reports, and Congress and Jim Jordan are pursuing this as well,
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that banks were sharing data with the FBI about everyone's banking activity in Washington, D.C.,
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the entire area. So anyone who used their debit card or engaged in any financial transaction had
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their material sent over to the FBI. And we asked the FBI, give us records about what you're doing here.
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And they came back and said, that's essentially the equivalent of a state secret. We can't even tell
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you if the records exist. So there's this kind of, they're doubling down on secrecy. And this is
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just one of many examples of them acting in a way that, you know, make Americans concerned in their
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civil liberties and their Fourth Amendment liberties, right? You know, you have a right to be,
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you know, securing your papers in your home, right? That's not true anymore, too often.
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Also, thanks to Judicial Watch, is an ever-expanding surveillance state and an ever-diminishing so-called
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elusive right of privacy on the part of a U.S. citizen. I don't know where it ends, because no one seems to
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have the courage to say, no, we don't want this anymore. It's unconstitutional. Rights have to be protected.
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I can't get anyone in the United States Congress to say on this podcast that we're absolutely voting
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against the 702 section under our constitutional system. Under 702, though, they've kind of just
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expanded it beyond all sense and reason, in my view. You know, I would look at these abuses
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and, you know, defund them. I mean, if you don't want massive collection of phone data,
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restrict taxpayer money for the program. You know, I think you can have your constitutional
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protections for the president to conduct foreign policy and engage in intelligence gathering,
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but you may not want to fund everything that can be abused in a radical way and include restrictions,
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because this government has shown repeatedly that they can't be trusted. I mean, we see this with
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the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which is somewhat really, which is obviously related to
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702 in part, where, I mean, they were spying on the president. The president of the United States,
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they were using Pfizer to get a target, and you couldn't even get the courts to hold a hearing on it.
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So, you know, I would love for somebody to explain to me why any of us should be willing to be spied
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upon by the United States government. It's a violation of our rights. It's a violation of
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our privacy. I mean, are we such a cowardly bunch that we want to trade our constitutional rights for
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someone's idea of security? You know, and this Biden White House is not only, you know, you're raising
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all sorts of issues. I think you can have, you know, a vibrant security apparatus that protects
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civil liberties. You know, I believe only the government can't walk and chew gum at the same
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time, but most Americans, you know, know better that, practically speaking, something can be done
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that robustly protects our security without subjecting $330 million to constant surveillance,
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but 330 million Americans to constant surveillance by the government. I don't know if you saw the
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Washington Post this weekend, Lou, but the Biden administration is concerned that Americans
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are complaining about inflation online. So they're trying to monitor it and censor it,
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quite literally. So, I mean, this is, what does that have to do with national security that the
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White House is monitoring complaints about their inflation policies?
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Well, it has nothing, but then there's, this is typical of the illogic of this puppet-impaired,
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cognitively impaired president. Whatever he's got is obviously contagious, because the entire
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White House apparatus has about the same sophisticated level of intellectual process as does this president.
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I mean, they, first of all, they come up with these bizarre rationales, and then expect people to
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actually believe the nonsense that they spew. And then you have the left-wing national corporate
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media helping them out, churning out nonsense, and we're all supposed to pay attention to the
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to the musings of a cognitively impaired, compromised, corrupt president, who is nothing more than a
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prop for a cabal of Marxists who we all know and I'm sure could identify readily. What are we doing
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Yeah, I mean, we're in a, you know, we're in a crisis state. We've got this lack of respect for the rule of
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law by those who are supposed to be enforcing it. We have kind of brazen corruption that is ignored,
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even by those parties that supposedly oppose it. You know, the Republican Party, for instance, the Republican
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in-controlled House just before they skedaddled for a two-week Thanksgiving vacation. How many weeks did
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Yeah, yeah. Well, the House took off two weeks.
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And so they said it's an emergency, right? We've got this emergency budget issue.
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They fully funded the Biden administration and left town for two weeks.
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So every time, you know, all these complaints we have and all these – the frustrating thing is when
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I hear Republican elected officials make these – make complaints like we're discussing here
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and then they fully fund the agencies engaged in the abuses they reject. It's just incredible to me.
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They need to be held accountable to it for it because, you know, we know what's going on now.
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You know, it's not like it's 20 years ago where the budget process was some murky process that we
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don't know anything about. We all know the racket. And the racket is complain about everything
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and fully funded at the same time. And that's not acceptable anymore.
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We're talking with Tom Fenton, the president of Judicial Watch. We're coming right back.
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And we're going to talk about some of that murky stuff that we don't know about, but there seems
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to be a competition between the CIA and the NSA and untold other deep, dark agencies to have the
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supreme data collection capacity and capabilities. And the result is a real battle royal for taxpayer
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And we're back. We're talking with Tom Fenton. And Tom was talking about budgets for all sorts of things.
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And the budgets that are least understood, least recognized as important for the American public to know
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because of national security concerns are certainly the budgets of all of our intelligence agencies.
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And we've got them, it seems, in every department. But the big budgets, the big bad black budgets like NSA,
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the CIA, and they have segregated budgets at the CIA, which include signal ops, human intelligence,
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et cetera. They go through all of it. And they are in a real battle royal with the NSA to have the
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the dominant data gathering surveillance capacity, both in terms of storage and gathering.
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It's remarkable, Tom. And I don't know anyone, at least no one's ever let me know that they know
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what those numbers even approach. I can remember back in the day, the number was something around
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$40 billion. But that's been years, decades ago.
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$65 billion when you think of all the intelligence agencies at this
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in scope, right? And I think the challenge we have
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is that when you're spending as much money as the federal government is spending,
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especially money that you don't have any personal
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responsibility for, other than you've got a job,
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Well, that's what we expect from the government,
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exponentially in terms of the amount of money they oversee and spend.