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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dimes. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.

00:01:23.460 In battle for sun, Hunter Biden agreed this week to testify before Congress, but with a condition.

00:01:30.120 He insisted on a public hearing to prevent what he called potential distortion or selective leaks

00:01:35.880 by Republicans. Hunter must have the Republicans mistaken. It's the Marxist Dems who are known to leak 0.86

00:01:42.760 and distort the truth. Remember the sham J-6 committee? The special counsel Jack Smith,

00:01:49.500 Adam Schiff, Dan Goldman, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden? Remember any of them? In a letter to Congress,

00:01:56.320 Hunter Biden's attorney, Abby Lowell, criticized the Republican inquiry as a partisan crusade,

00:02:03.140 accusing House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer of manipulating facts during closed-door

00:02:09.220 sessions. Think about all the corruption of the Biden regime. It doesn't end. Lowell proposed a

00:02:15.800 public hearing for December 13th, the very same date that had been set for the closed-door interview

00:02:21.520 or any other December date. Despite the offer, Comer rejected it, asserting that Hunter Biden should

00:02:28.000 first speak in private, as does everyone else, but could testify publicly later. Lowell must have

00:02:34.580 seemed to forget this was a subpoena, not a gentle request. And failed presidential candidate Mike

00:02:41.760 Pence is back in the news. According to a leak to ABC News, Mike Pence sat for a closed-door meeting

00:02:48.260 with junkyard jackal special counsel Jack Smith back in April for Smith's phishing expedition into Trump.

00:02:56.500 Pence told Smith that Trump hired a bunch of crank attorneys who espoused un-American legal theories

00:03:03.620 and almost pushed the country toward what he called a constitutional crisis. Pence also told

00:03:09.700 federal prosecutors that President Trump was acting recklessly on January 6, 2021. Pence also told

00:03:17.480 investigators that in the first few days after the election, he never saw any significant allegations

00:03:23.640 of fraud. Let us remind you, that wasn't Pence's description on January 4, 2021, just two days before

00:03:33.120 January 6, when Pence said the election was rigged and that we're going to get to the bottom of it.

00:03:40.120 Here's Pence, then.

00:03:42.260 I know we all got our doubts about the last election. And I want to assure you, I share the concerns of

00:03:50.620 millions of Americans about voting irregularities. And I promise you, come this Wednesday, we'll have our

00:03:58.340 day in Congress. We'll hear the objections. We'll hear the evidence.

00:04:04.440 Pence has changed his story a number of times, but the facts show that Pence believed the election was

00:04:10.020 stolen and he did nothing about it. And sources within the Israeli government are now saying that

00:04:15.800 Joe Biden is reportedly leading a pressure campaign behind closed doors that would allow Hamas 0.98

00:04:21.820 to remain in power after the war with Israel, keeping Israel from destroying the terrorist organization

00:04:29.540 or removing their governing capabilities. Remember, Benjamin Netanyahu said, we will destroy Hamas

00:04:37.300 in Gaza. This is in direct contradiction to what Biden spokesman John Kirby had told us about

00:04:43.780 what the Biden administration was doing. This is what he told reporters yesterday,

00:04:48.340 that any ceasefire with Hamas opens the door for Hamas to take advantage of Israel.

00:04:54.880 Here is Kirby being the lone honest man in the Biden regime.

00:04:59.940 You know, all along, you've been very clear about concerns that a broader ceasefire would only

00:05:04.660 benefit Hamas. Sullivan was pretty clear yesterday in saying that, you know, Hamas has been able to

00:05:08.820 gain some benefit from this. How concerned are you that the longer this truce lasts, now six days,

00:05:14.840 that Hamas will benefit? And how do you weigh that?

00:05:17.200 It's a real risk. You have to expect a group like Hamas, the terrorist group,

00:05:22.040 which clearly doesn't abide by laws of war. We try to take advantage of any pause in the fighting

00:05:26.540 for their own benefit. So we're watching that closely as well as our Israeli counterparts. You

00:05:30.960 can bet that they're watching that closely.

00:05:33.560 And our guest today is Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch. And Tom, it's great to have you

00:05:37.840 back with us here on The Great America Show. The Biden White House caught red-handed once again.

00:05:43.220 The White House running a surveillance program, allowing law enforcement to stoop on trillions

00:05:49.620 of American phone records. This digital analysis service that gives the White House

00:05:55.060 singular access to all of these records that could amount to most of the country.

00:06:00.840 It is truly extraordinary and dangerous. And I don't think most people had ever heard of it before.

00:06:07.340 Your thoughts about it, Tom?

00:06:08.480 Yeah. You know, under the guise of national security, you know, they're able to look at

00:06:13.460 phone numbers, right? A certain subset of phone numbers, usually supposedly related to foreign

00:06:18.840 intelligence or crimes, right?

00:06:21.420 Right.

00:06:21.720 And what they've done is they've kind of taken those numbers, say, well, who called those numbers?

00:06:30.140 And then they look at the numbers who called those numbers and kind of branch out from there.

00:06:35.580 So it's like six degrees of Kevin Bacon in the digital age. And as a result, and we've seen this

00:06:43.300 time and time again with government surveillance, is that a program that most people might think,

00:06:49.260 well, you know, we probably do need to be able to do this in terms of being able to monitor

00:06:54.740 certain numbers. But the government, you give them an inch, they take a mile. And, you know,

00:07:01.060 a lot of this was talked about around the Patriot Act. I don't know if this is specifically related

00:07:06.040 to the Patriot Act. And, you know, I remember being skeptical of the civil libertarians here.

00:07:11.280 But it turns out they were right. I mean, they didn't want to use these systems to protect

00:07:17.320 America. They were more focused on using these systems to spy on citizens. And indeed,

00:07:23.880 you know, the idea that millions of Americans will be caught up in government surveillance as

00:07:31.240 a result of these systems is, I don't think anyone signed up for, even supporters of the Patriot Act.

00:07:37.280 Well, the idea that you can have a program like this that reports into the White House

00:07:45.640 is striking. I mean, that has to be illegal. It's a political venture, no matter almost no matter what,

00:07:53.240 at least with the FBI and the DOJ, there is the fig leaf, the fiction that there is a layer or two

00:07:59.480 from the political people, from the intelligence gathering, even on U.S. citizens. I mean,

00:08:06.760 this is wholesale access by the White House to vast reams of data that they can use for political

00:08:17.240 purposes, for blackmail, political blackmail, whatever it might be. It's really staggering to

00:08:24.480 think that this is, and then it's outside the FOIA, the Freedom of Information Surveillance Act.

00:08:31.880 Yeah, you know, our Judicial Watch's experience in recent years is that we've had this increased

00:08:37.260 surveillance and concurrently an increased unwillingness on the part of government to

00:08:44.760 share with us information about it. I mean, I know recently, for instance, around the January 6th

00:08:52.640 investigations, there were reports, and Congress and Jim Jordan are pursuing this as well,

00:08:57.240 that banks were sharing data with the FBI about everyone's banking activity in Washington, D.C.,

00:09:06.680 the entire area. So anyone who used their debit card or engaged in any financial transaction had

00:09:15.200 their material sent over to the FBI. And we asked the FBI, give us records about what you're doing here.

00:09:21.680 And they came back and said, that's essentially the equivalent of a state secret. We can't even tell

00:09:27.360 you if the records exist. So there's this kind of, they're doubling down on secrecy. And this is

00:09:35.180 just one of many examples of them acting in a way that, you know, make Americans concerned in their

00:09:42.920 civil liberties and their Fourth Amendment liberties, right? You know, you have a right to be,

00:09:47.900 you know, securing your papers in your home, right? That's not true anymore, too often.

00:09:54.580 Also, thanks to Judicial Watch, is an ever-expanding surveillance state and an ever-diminishing so-called

00:10:01.780 elusive right of privacy on the part of a U.S. citizen. I don't know where it ends, because no one seems to

00:10:10.020 have the courage to say, no, we don't want this anymore. It's unconstitutional. Rights have to be protected.

00:10:17.340 I can't get anyone in the United States Congress to say on this podcast that we're absolutely voting

00:10:24.220 against the 702 section under our constitutional system. Under 702, though, they've kind of just

00:10:33.520 expanded it beyond all sense and reason, in my view. You know, I would look at these abuses

00:10:39.820 and, you know, defund them. I mean, if you don't want massive collection of phone data,

00:10:47.040 restrict taxpayer money for the program. You know, I think you can have your constitutional

00:10:53.720 protections for the president to conduct foreign policy and engage in intelligence gathering,

00:10:57.960 but you may not want to fund everything that can be abused in a radical way and include restrictions,

00:11:05.140 because this government has shown repeatedly that they can't be trusted. I mean, we see this with

00:11:10.440 the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which is somewhat really, which is obviously related to

00:11:14.880 702 in part, where, I mean, they were spying on the president. The president of the United States,

00:11:21.300 they were using Pfizer to get a target, and you couldn't even get the courts to hold a hearing on it.

00:11:26.460 So, you know, I would love for somebody to explain to me why any of us should be willing to be spied

00:11:34.000 upon by the United States government. It's a violation of our rights. It's a violation of

00:11:39.540 our privacy. I mean, are we such a cowardly bunch that we want to trade our constitutional rights for

00:11:47.060 someone's idea of security? You know, and this Biden White House is not only, you know, you're raising

00:11:54.620 all sorts of issues. I think you can have, you know, a vibrant security apparatus that protects

00:12:00.300 civil liberties. You know, I believe only the government can't walk and chew gum at the same

00:12:04.780 time, but most Americans, you know, know better that, practically speaking, something can be done

00:12:10.780 that robustly protects our security without subjecting $330 million to constant surveillance,

00:12:16.800 but 330 million Americans to constant surveillance by the government. I don't know if you saw the

00:12:22.840 Washington Post this weekend, Lou, but the Biden administration is concerned that Americans

00:12:30.280 are complaining about inflation online. So they're trying to monitor it and censor it,

00:12:37.300 quite literally. So, I mean, this is, what does that have to do with national security that the

00:12:41.760 White House is monitoring complaints about their inflation policies?

00:12:45.840 Well, it has nothing, but then there's, this is typical of the illogic of this puppet-impaired, 0.97

00:12:54.700 cognitively impaired president. Whatever he's got is obviously contagious, because the entire

00:13:01.280 White House apparatus has about the same sophisticated level of intellectual process as does this president.

00:13:09.880 I mean, they, first of all, they come up with these bizarre rationales, and then expect people to

00:13:17.340 actually believe the nonsense that they spew. And then you have the left-wing national corporate

00:13:26.220 media helping them out, churning out nonsense, and we're all supposed to pay attention to the

00:13:33.820 to the musings of a cognitively impaired, compromised, corrupt president, who is nothing more than a 0.58

00:13:41.820 prop for a cabal of Marxists who we all know and I'm sure could identify readily. What are we doing

00:13:50.980 in this country?

00:13:52.720 Yeah, I mean, we're in a, you know, we're in a crisis state. We've got this lack of respect for the rule of

00:13:58.960 law by those who are supposed to be enforcing it. We have kind of brazen corruption that is ignored,

00:14:11.660 even by those parties that supposedly oppose it. You know, the Republican Party, for instance, the Republican

00:14:21.760 in-controlled House just before they skedaddled for a two-week Thanksgiving vacation. How many weeks did

00:14:29.860 you take off at Thanksgiving, Will?

00:14:31.820 I'm still working on it.

00:14:33.500 Yeah, yeah. Well, the House took off two weeks.

00:14:37.460 That's incredible.

00:14:38.680 And so they said it's an emergency, right? We've got this emergency budget issue.

00:14:43.900 They fully funded the Biden administration and left town for two weeks.

00:14:47.780 So every time, you know, all these complaints we have and all these – the frustrating thing is when

00:14:53.500 I hear Republican elected officials make these – make complaints like we're discussing here

00:15:01.660 and then they fully fund the agencies engaged in the abuses they reject. It's just incredible to me.

00:15:09.420 We're talking –

00:15:10.360 They need to be held accountable to it for it because, you know, we know what's going on now.

00:15:15.200 You know, it's not like it's 20 years ago where the budget process was some murky process that we

00:15:21.300 don't know anything about. We all know the racket. And the racket is complain about everything

00:15:28.180 and fully funded at the same time. And that's not acceptable anymore.

00:15:32.980 We're talking with Tom Fenton, the president of Judicial Watch. We're coming right back.

00:15:38.060 And we're going to talk about some of that murky stuff that we don't know about, but there seems

00:15:43.740 to be a competition between the CIA and the NSA and untold other deep, dark agencies to have the

00:15:52.260 supreme data collection capacity and capabilities. And the result is a real battle royal for taxpayer

00:16:02.100 dollars. We'll be right back. Stay with us.

00:16:08.060 And we're back. We're talking with Tom Fenton. And Tom was talking about budgets for all sorts of things.

00:16:16.600 And the budgets that are least understood, least recognized as important for the American public to know

00:16:24.640 because of national security concerns are certainly the budgets of all of our intelligence agencies.

00:16:31.260 And we've got them, it seems, in every department. But the big budgets, the big bad black budgets like NSA, 0.99

00:16:38.800 the CIA, and they have segregated budgets at the CIA, which include signal ops, human intelligence,

00:16:45.560 et cetera. They go through all of it. And they are in a real battle royal with the NSA to have the

00:16:53.180 the dominant data gathering surveillance capacity, both in terms of storage and gathering.

00:17:00.980 It's remarkable, Tom. And I don't know anyone, at least no one's ever let me know that they know

00:17:06.960 what those numbers even approach. I can remember back in the day, the number was something around

00:17:12.980 $40 billion. But that's been years, decades ago.

00:17:18.200 Yeah, I think it's around, it's probably like

00:17:21.200 $65 billion when you think of all the intelligence agencies at this

00:17:25.080 point.

00:17:28.740 And

00:17:28.860 you know, it's

00:17:30.800 after a while, the number becomes almost

00:17:34.840 irrelevant, you know, almost comical

00:17:36.840 in scope, right? And I think the challenge we have

00:17:40.280 as a free people

00:17:42.240 is that when you're spending as much money as the federal government is spending,

00:17:46.200 and we can argue over the specifics as to

00:17:48.020 what program is good or bad,

00:17:50.480 but when you, you know, for instance,

00:17:52.220 can you imagine personally having them manage

00:17:54.540 the expenditure of a billion dollars?

00:17:56.300 Do you think that you could

00:17:58.220 reassure anyone,

00:18:00.840 especially for,

00:18:02.060 especially money that you don't have any personal

00:18:04.240 responsibility for, other than you've got a job,

00:18:06.860 a salary job,

00:18:08.200 that the money's being spent well?

00:18:10.540 Well, that's what we expect from the government,

00:18:12.860 you know,

00:18:13.720 you know,

00:18:14.420 exponentially in terms of the amount of money they oversee and spend.

00:18:19.400 And as a result,

00:18:20.320 there's this waste, fraud, and abuse

00:18:21.920 that necessarily is

00:18:24.280 almost inhuman in size

00:18:27.160 because the overall,

00:18:28.700 the budget itself is inhuman in size.

00:18:30.960 And, you know,

00:18:32.640 my view is,

00:18:34.400 you know,

00:18:34.800 what's,

00:18:35.900 the easiest thing to do

00:18:37.600 is just cut the darn budgets. 0.89

00:18:39.800 And

00:18:40.240 that's the best way

00:18:42.580 to get a handle on all of this.

00:18:44.900 And we can argue about what they do

00:18:46.620 a little bit later.

00:18:47.280 I resent

00:18:48.560 the fact

00:18:49.560 that the assets

00:18:50.980 and the liabilities

00:18:52.580 of the Department of Defense,

00:18:54.040 as was reported about

00:18:55.260 two or three weeks ago,

00:18:57.320 don't add up.

00:18:59.000 They can't balance their books.

00:19:01.300 And the Department of Defense

00:19:02.540 misses it by $2 trillion.

00:19:05.860 I think they've got great intentions.

00:19:08.740 They've got good ideas

00:19:09.720 about some portions.

00:19:11.300 But I don't think anybody's got a clue

00:19:13.700 about what's really going on

00:19:14.960 in that government.

00:19:15.560 Oh, yeah.

00:19:17.440 I mean,

00:19:17.720 it's,

00:19:18.360 I think it's,

00:19:19.100 I think it's actually impossible

00:19:20.940 to understand what's going on

00:19:22.120 in government,

00:19:22.980 given the amounts they're spending.

00:19:24.940 You know,

00:19:25.260 to me,

00:19:25.660 that's kind of like

00:19:26.260 a calculated decision

00:19:27.380 and allows all sorts of misconduct,

00:19:30.180 waste,

00:19:30.460 fraud,

00:19:30.660 and abuse to continue.

00:19:32.380 I mean,

00:19:32.680 how many times,

00:19:33.640 you know,

00:19:33.820 how many stories do you see

00:19:35.140 about fraud

00:19:36.440 in program X,

00:19:37.660 Y,

00:19:37.940 and Z?

00:19:38.380 We're giving away money

00:19:39.720 and we can't even guarantee

00:19:41.340 that the people

00:19:41.980 it's intended to

00:19:42.840 are going to get it

00:19:43.940 as opposed to

00:19:45.260 people coming in

00:19:46.500 and fraudulently

00:19:47.100 getting it on top of it.

00:19:48.900 Billions and billions

00:19:49.880 and billions.

00:19:50.760 And,

00:19:51.040 you know,

00:19:52.100 it comes from somewhere,

00:19:53.640 meaning our back pockets,

00:19:55.540 and there's this

00:19:56.540 laxatasiical attitude

00:19:58.140 here in Washington,

00:19:59.180 D.C.

00:19:59.460 about it.

00:19:59.960 and I mean,

00:20:00.720 you're kind of seeing that

00:20:01.700 in the budget process

00:20:03.080 these days

00:20:03.780 where

00:20:04.280 the increased

00:20:08.840 and massive government

00:20:09.960 spending over the last

00:20:11.040 two years

00:20:11.740 has been ratified

00:20:13.280 repeatedly

00:20:13.920 by the Republican House.

00:20:16.420 Yeah.

00:20:17.600 It's,

00:20:18.420 and the Republican House

00:20:19.940 under new management.

00:20:21.520 Your thoughts about

00:20:22.720 how Mike Johnson

00:20:23.700 is doing so far?

00:20:24.820 I mean,

00:20:27.080 he began the release

00:20:28.100 of the January 6th videos,

00:20:29.420 which is good.

00:20:30.740 I think his challenge

00:20:32.100 is that he needs

00:20:33.940 to figure out

00:20:35.200 is there something

00:20:36.940 over which

00:20:38.180 he's willing to

00:20:38.860 shut the government down

00:20:39.960 or a government agency

00:20:41.000 down over?

00:20:42.480 And if he's not,

00:20:44.500 then Biden

00:20:45.480 and the left win.

00:20:47.560 If he is,

00:20:48.600 then there's a fight

00:20:49.260 to be had

00:20:49.900 and

00:20:50.980 at least

00:20:52.340 the public

00:20:52.740 is educated

00:20:53.400 and,

00:20:53.960 you know,

00:20:54.180 maybe you'll get

00:20:55.100 a significant

00:20:55.640 policy change then.

00:20:57.660 But this current

00:20:58.740 approach to me

00:20:59.680 is an approach

00:21:00.440 that guarantees

00:21:02.280 more of the same

00:21:03.280 and the status quo.

00:21:05.000 I mean,

00:21:05.400 you know,

00:21:06.440 can we at least agree

00:21:07.400 we're not going to fund

00:21:08.200 a border invasion

00:21:09.040 or we're going to

00:21:10.820 defund the prosecution

00:21:11.820 of Trump?

00:21:13.140 We're not going to let

00:21:14.080 the Biden Justice Department

00:21:15.320 interfere in an election

00:21:16.420 and we're going to

00:21:17.380 shut it down

00:21:18.000 in that regard?

00:21:19.240 You know,

00:21:19.500 those are the fights

00:21:20.160 I would be having,

00:21:21.060 but I haven't heard

00:21:21.660 any red lines

00:21:22.640 from the speaker

00:21:23.880 and that suggests

00:21:25.260 that,

00:21:26.080 you know,

00:21:27.600 they say,

00:21:28.380 whether it be

00:21:28.800 through a continuing

00:21:29.440 resolution

00:21:30.160 or an appropriations

00:21:31.940 bill that's specific

00:21:32.820 to an agency,

00:21:33.740 if they're not willing

00:21:35.340 to shut the agency

00:21:36.320 down over a particular

00:21:37.640 abuse,

00:21:38.320 then,

00:21:38.620 you know,

00:21:40.060 then you're just

00:21:40.600 arguing over

00:21:41.380 how many deck chairs

00:21:42.380 you put on the Titanic.

00:21:44.340 Right.

00:21:44.920 And whether it's

00:21:46.140 the Titanic,

00:21:47.440 the Lusitania,

00:21:48.420 whatever it may be,

00:21:49.300 this ship

00:21:49.760 of state,

00:21:51.080 it's decidedly

00:21:52.480 in peril

00:21:53.060 and there's

00:21:55.000 no urgency

00:21:55.920 that I can detect

00:21:57.140 in Washington,

00:21:58.120 D.C.

00:21:58.520 There's no sense

00:21:59.760 of crisis,

00:22:01.320 even though

00:22:02.120 we're watching

00:22:02.720 the debt

00:22:03.300 just mount.

00:22:05.600 And the result

00:22:06.240 is we'll be

00:22:06.840 a detonation

00:22:07.580 in perpetuity,

00:22:08.480 but nobody seems

00:22:09.340 to be bothered

00:22:10.000 about that.

00:22:11.300 And meanwhile,

00:22:12.320 China,

00:22:13.260 even though it is,

00:22:14.540 it was supposed

00:22:15.080 to have eclipsed

00:22:15.840 the United States

00:22:16.700 and in my opinion,

00:22:18.020 it will never

00:22:18.680 because it just isn't,

00:22:20.560 it's too communist

00:22:21.660 still to pretend

00:22:22.960 it's capitalist

00:22:23.680 and without being

00:22:24.500 capitalist

00:22:25.100 and with free markets,

00:22:26.720 it's not going

00:22:27.480 to work for them.

00:22:28.440 I'm sorry to tell

00:22:29.440 Xi Jinping

00:22:30.060 and his acolytes

00:22:31.560 in the CCP.

00:22:34.460 That's a,

00:22:35.220 it's a dream,

00:22:36.020 a fever dream.

00:22:37.580 So,

00:22:38.460 we do have

00:22:39.560 one thing

00:22:40.260 going against us

00:22:41.160 and that's us.

00:22:42.740 If we can sit here

00:22:43.880 and blithely talk

00:22:44.940 about trillions

00:22:45.540 of dollars

00:22:46.400 sloshing around

00:22:49.040 in the swamp,

00:22:50.780 maybe we just need

00:22:51.700 to move out

00:22:52.100 of the swamp

00:22:52.680 and just be done

00:22:53.440 with it,

00:22:53.740 just leave everybody

00:22:54.560 in Washington,

00:22:55.320 D.C.

00:22:55.660 and put this thing

00:22:56.400 in,

00:22:56.700 I don't know,

00:22:59.720 Dubuque

00:23:00.240 or somewhere

00:23:00.920 in the center

00:23:01.820 of the country.

00:23:03.580 I thought you were

00:23:04.760 going to say

00:23:05.060 receivership.

00:23:05.840 if it were

00:23:07.240 indeed a private

00:23:08.460 organization,

00:23:09.340 that's exactly

00:23:10.100 where we'd be headed.

00:23:12.000 You know,

00:23:12.300 and you used

00:23:13.260 the phrase

00:23:13.640 banana republic.

00:23:15.160 You know,

00:23:15.600 many of us

00:23:16.660 are concerned

00:23:17.100 about the

00:23:17.480 banana republic

00:23:18.220 way of thinking

00:23:21.420 in terms of

00:23:21.900 prosecuting Trump

00:23:22.840 and Biden

00:23:23.800 trying to put

00:23:24.340 his political

00:23:24.780 opponent in jail

00:23:26.480 and the Democratic

00:23:27.240 Party trying

00:23:28.520 to destroy Trump

00:23:29.440 through abusive

00:23:30.520 process.

00:23:31.940 But you also

00:23:32.660 have a banana

00:23:33.200 republican spending,

00:23:34.360 right?

00:23:35.340 You know,

00:23:35.560 that's another

00:23:36.100 indicia of being

00:23:36.960 a banana republic

00:23:37.840 where spending

00:23:38.580 is prolific

00:23:39.240 and there's

00:23:40.640 no control

00:23:41.460 and the currency

00:23:42.560 is being debased

00:23:43.600 and all sorts

00:23:44.800 of other things.

00:23:45.880 And,

00:23:46.120 you know,

00:23:47.020 we're all expected

00:23:47.860 to look at

00:23:49.060 the crazed

00:23:49.800 increase in prices

00:23:50.960 that are being

00:23:52.220 cemented

00:23:52.940 and increasing

00:23:54.020 still

00:23:54.780 and be happy

00:23:56.160 with it

00:23:56.560 because the rate

00:23:57.300 of increase

00:23:57.940 is slowed

00:23:58.540 down a little bit.

00:23:59.500 but we've

00:24:01.140 all taken

00:24:01.640 a 20%

00:24:02.580 haircut

00:24:03.000 on our

00:24:03.940 daily living

00:24:04.540 expenses

00:24:05.200 at least

00:24:07.380 because of

00:24:09.400 this spending.

00:24:12.140 And so,

00:24:12.620 you know,

00:24:12.880 you look at

00:24:13.340 these countries

00:24:14.080 where inflation

00:24:15.180 is 148%.

00:24:16.660 Well,

00:24:18.400 you know,

00:24:18.640 America isn't

00:24:19.160 quite that bad

00:24:20.180 but there's

00:24:22.440 no excuse

00:24:23.600 for decimating

00:24:25.400 the income

00:24:26.180 and the expenses

00:24:27.040 of American

00:24:27.660 citizens

00:24:28.380 in terms

00:24:30.600 of increasing

00:24:31.160 them

00:24:31.520 with the

00:24:33.800 economy

00:24:34.340 we have.

00:24:35.660 And it's

00:24:36.520 the government's

00:24:37.600 behavior

00:24:37.900 in this regard

00:24:38.680 has been so

00:24:40.160 reckless

00:24:40.520 and harmful

00:24:42.960 it's hard

00:24:44.180 to get your

00:24:44.600 head around it.

00:24:45.540 Inflation

00:24:46.040 is as harmful

00:24:48.100 to democracy,

00:24:49.040 the history

00:24:50.040 shows

00:24:50.600 as anything

00:24:51.840 that the left

00:24:53.260 pretends they're

00:24:53.920 concerned about.

00:24:55.260 We're talking

00:24:55.520 with Tom Fitt

00:24:56.100 and we're coming

00:24:56.500 right back.

00:24:57.300 Stay with us.

00:25:03.620 We're back

00:25:04.380 with Tom Fitt

00:25:05.120 and Tom,

00:25:05.880 you were talking

00:25:06.720 about where

00:25:08.300 we are

00:25:08.780 with this

00:25:09.280 great republic

00:25:10.700 behaving like

00:25:13.040 a banana

00:25:14.180 republic.

00:25:15.260 The truth

00:25:15.680 is that there

00:25:16.240 is also

00:25:16.780 some benefit

00:25:17.580 to inflation.

00:25:19.040 But we

00:25:20.160 have right

00:25:21.220 now no way

00:25:21.780 to achieve

00:25:22.280 that benefit

00:25:22.860 because we

00:25:23.420 have such

00:25:24.520 a vast

00:25:25.340 debt

00:25:25.920 that we

00:25:26.920 can't keep

00:25:27.500 up and we've

00:25:28.040 also got

00:25:28.520 rising rates

00:25:29.340 so we can't

00:25:30.000 even inflate

00:25:30.760 the economy

00:25:31.460 in order to

00:25:32.020 pay off

00:25:32.460 our debt.

00:25:33.500 It is a

00:25:34.280 mess

00:25:34.660 and these

00:25:36.320 things get

00:25:36.880 resolved in

00:25:37.640 time in a

00:25:38.800 free economy.

00:25:40.260 Even one

00:25:41.020 is messed

00:25:41.720 up as

00:25:42.380 this one

00:25:43.680 is with a

00:25:44.280 government

00:25:44.600 spending

00:25:45.140 two trillion

00:25:46.300 dollars a year

00:25:47.020 more than

00:25:48.180 what they

00:25:48.540 bring in

00:25:49.160 and spending

00:25:50.200 a trillion

00:25:50.660 dollars just

00:25:51.320 on debt

00:25:52.480 service.

00:25:53.080 I mean,

00:25:53.280 it's madness

00:25:53.860 what we're

00:25:54.300 doing and

00:25:55.200 no one

00:25:55.680 seems to

00:25:56.280 care.

00:25:56.700 I feel

00:25:56.980 like I'm

00:25:58.400 yelling into

00:25:59.540 the dark.

00:26:00.880 Somebody

00:26:01.300 ought to pay

00:26:01.740 attention here,

00:26:02.660 but I don't

00:26:03.640 see anyone

00:26:04.200 doing so.

00:26:05.820 Yeah,

00:26:06.000 I mean,

00:26:06.200 it's one thing

00:26:06.680 to have

00:26:06.980 inflation

00:26:07.480 because you

00:26:08.100 have a

00:26:08.460 rise in

00:26:08.860 economy and

00:26:09.600 the old

00:26:10.780 fashioned

00:26:11.220 approach where

00:26:11.980 the economy

00:26:12.560 is getting

00:26:12.860 too hot and

00:26:13.560 inflation is a

00:26:14.260 little too

00:26:14.680 heavy.

00:26:16.160 But Friedman

00:26:17.320 has taught

00:26:18.760 us that

00:26:19.500 inflation almost

00:26:21.100 always is a

00:26:22.160 monetary phenomenon,

00:26:23.240 right?

00:26:23.820 Meaning the

00:26:24.400 government's

00:26:24.900 behind it.

00:26:26.080 And in this

00:26:26.560 case, it isn't

00:26:27.140 because the

00:26:27.640 economy was

00:26:29.100 growing too

00:26:29.640 fast or out

00:26:30.660 of control.

00:26:31.320 It was because

00:26:31.820 the spending was

00:26:32.560 growing out of

00:26:33.140 control and it

00:26:33.880 continues to be

00:26:34.720 out of control.

00:26:36.120 And there's no

00:26:37.920 sign of it

00:26:38.640 slowing down.

00:26:40.080 And I'll tell

00:26:40.660 you, the best

00:26:41.300 thing that

00:26:41.720 Republicans could

00:26:42.420 do to curtail

00:26:43.100 inflation is

00:26:44.340 to cut

00:26:44.680 government

00:26:44.980 spending.

00:26:46.380 But I

00:26:47.460 don't hear

00:26:48.160 even much

00:26:48.700 of that

00:26:49.020 anymore.

00:26:49.980 And we

00:26:50.840 have so

00:26:51.220 many good

00:26:51.640 conservatives,

00:26:52.400 not enough

00:26:53.820 conservatives on

00:26:54.680 the Hill,

00:26:55.660 but a good

00:26:56.120 number, many

00:26:57.600 more than

00:26:57.980 there used

00:26:58.400 to be even

00:26:58.900 three years

00:26:59.480 ago.

00:27:00.680 But they

00:27:00.960 kind of

00:27:01.300 have gotten

00:27:02.160 very, you

00:27:03.740 know, they

00:27:03.960 kind of get

00:27:04.360 too much into

00:27:07.780 the budget

00:27:08.220 process, right?

00:27:09.900 Arguing over

00:27:10.780 the procedures.

00:27:13.100 As to

00:27:13.720 these, as

00:27:14.520 opposed to

00:27:14.920 these big

00:27:15.340 picture issues

00:27:16.220 that we've

00:27:17.240 got to cut

00:27:17.760 spending so

00:27:18.900 prices go

00:27:19.680 down.

00:27:20.500 We need to

00:27:21.120 defund the

00:27:21.760 programs because

00:27:22.720 the government's

00:27:23.380 abusing Trump

00:27:24.340 and Americans

00:27:25.000 and censoring

00:27:25.660 Americans and

00:27:26.500 allowing our

00:27:27.180 country to be

00:27:27.720 invaded.

00:27:28.380 I don't hear

00:27:29.140 that type of

00:27:29.780 discussion.

00:27:30.820 And as a

00:27:31.240 result, they

00:27:31.700 don't get the

00:27:32.240 traction I think

00:27:32.940 they might

00:27:33.240 otherwise get.

00:27:34.180 We are

00:27:35.120 looking at a

00:27:35.980 rigged electoral

00:27:36.720 system and the

00:27:38.240 RNC isn't doing

00:27:39.460 anything about it.

00:27:40.520 We're watching the

00:27:42.060 Republican Party.

00:27:43.100 behave as if,

00:27:44.320 well, there's

00:27:44.580 nothing wrong

00:27:45.300 this time when

00:27:46.220 we know that

00:27:46.720 there will be

00:27:47.200 even more

00:27:47.840 wrong this

00:27:48.540 time.

00:27:49.440 And it's a

00:27:50.360 critical election.

00:27:52.580 It's bizarre

00:27:53.800 that they can

00:27:54.900 watch, as we

00:27:56.000 were talking

00:27:56.320 about the

00:27:56.780 digital analysts,

00:27:58.740 the DAS

00:27:59.960 system that

00:28:00.740 reports into

00:28:01.860 the White

00:28:02.300 House.

00:28:03.000 We know that

00:28:04.320 the Democrats

00:28:04.980 are spying

00:28:05.960 everywhere they

00:28:06.620 can.

00:28:07.260 And they're

00:28:07.900 spying and

00:28:08.680 sharing it with

00:28:09.420 social media,

00:28:10.140 who are

00:28:11.000 spying and

00:28:11.980 sharing that

00:28:12.960 with government

00:28:13.540 agencies and

00:28:14.820 with political

00:28:15.500 campaigns and

00:28:16.560 parties.

00:28:17.520 And we still

00:28:18.440 want to scratch

00:28:19.600 our heads and

00:28:20.140 say, oh,

00:28:20.820 tsk, tsk, we

00:28:21.660 should be doing

00:28:22.400 something about

00:28:23.160 this.

00:28:23.520 Meanwhile,

00:28:24.520 history is being

00:28:25.240 made and

00:28:25.980 history is also

00:28:27.160 being torn

00:28:27.740 asunder.

00:28:29.080 And President

00:28:29.820 Trump, you

00:28:30.920 know, his fate

00:28:31.960 and fortunes

00:28:32.560 right now are in

00:28:33.100 the hands of

00:28:33.660 complete idiots. 0.93

00:28:35.080 The entire

00:28:35.520 federal government

00:28:36.180 now is going to

00:28:36.660 be responsible for

00:28:37.520 getting out the

00:28:38.140 vote.

00:28:38.380 We're looking

00:28:39.200 at, what is

00:28:39.680 it, four or

00:28:40.220 five iterations

00:28:41.040 of a ministry

00:28:41.760 of truth?

00:28:42.800 This time, you

00:28:44.580 know, it's the

00:28:44.980 Department of

00:28:45.480 Homeland Security,

00:28:46.360 it's the

00:28:46.580 Department of

00:28:47.100 Justice.

00:28:47.860 The Department

00:28:48.200 of State's

00:28:48.800 involved as

00:28:49.440 well.

00:28:49.660 Exactly.

00:28:50.880 CIA was

00:28:51.840 involved as

00:28:52.500 well, the

00:28:53.100 Twitter files

00:28:53.680 show.

00:28:54.040 The CIA was

00:28:55.080 sitting in on

00:28:56.720 these meetings

00:28:57.420 where they were

00:28:57.980 pushing censorship

00:28:59.700 of Americans on

00:29:01.460 social media.

00:29:02.820 We always try to

00:29:03.780 give our guests

00:29:04.300 the last word,

00:29:05.140 Tom.

00:29:05.860 Your concluding

00:29:06.700 thoughts on it

00:29:07.380 all kind of

00:29:08.000 bring all of

00:29:08.920 this, all

00:29:09.980 this together,

00:29:11.180 this vast

00:29:12.160 network of

00:29:12.840 concerns and

00:29:13.560 urgencies.

00:29:14.560 You know, I

00:29:15.460 keep on talking

00:29:16.260 about Congress.

00:29:17.260 You know,

00:29:17.440 Judicial Watch

00:29:18.020 is doing, Lou,

00:29:18.860 what we can do.

00:29:19.740 We have FOIA

00:29:20.560 lawsuits.

00:29:21.460 Congress is

00:29:21.880 often following

00:29:23.060 our lead on

00:29:23.820 these investigations.

00:29:25.300 We actually

00:29:26.100 sue.

00:29:26.620 They ask, send

00:29:27.800 letters, right?

00:29:30.220 But in the end,

00:29:31.760 Congress is the

00:29:32.640 one funding

00:29:33.120 everything we're

00:29:33.680 complaining about.

00:29:34.420 And if your

00:29:36.940 listeners are

00:29:38.660 concerned about

00:29:39.260 this, they

00:29:40.520 need to let

00:29:40.940 their congressman

00:29:41.540 know, you

00:29:42.080 know, defund

00:29:42.660 this.

00:29:43.300 Stop it.

00:29:45.880 You know,

00:29:46.120 whatever the

00:29:47.080 issue is, they

00:29:47.820 can defund the

00:29:48.580 phone monitoring

00:29:49.320 program.

00:29:49.980 They can defund

00:29:50.740 the abusive

00:29:52.420 prosecutions of

00:29:53.440 Trump.

00:29:53.780 They're trying to

00:29:54.320 gag Trump right

00:29:55.320 now using the

00:29:56.160 federal courts.

00:29:57.980 They're funding

00:29:59.100 literally the

00:30:00.600 Biden administration

00:30:01.380 moving foreign

00:30:02.360 nationals by the

00:30:03.320 millions into the

00:30:04.240 interior of the

00:30:04.920 United States who

00:30:06.120 aren't allowed to

00:30:06.700 be here.

00:30:08.860 And, you know,

00:30:10.300 it's not like

00:30:12.020 these problems are

00:30:12.920 insurmountable, but

00:30:14.980 unless the American 0.64

00:30:15.900 people demand

00:30:16.920 leadership, they

00:30:17.780 won't get it.

00:30:18.620 And that's why I

00:30:19.540 encourage people

00:30:20.320 more so than they

00:30:21.420 have recently,

00:30:22.880 probably ever since

00:30:23.960 I've been at

00:30:24.320 Judicial Watch,

00:30:25.140 talk to your

00:30:25.760 House members,

00:30:27.080 talk to your

00:30:27.840 senators, and let 1.00

00:30:29.080 them know what

00:30:29.500 you think about

00:30:30.140 this.

00:30:30.560 And, of course,

00:30:31.540 support Judicial

00:30:32.300 Watch because,

00:30:33.180 you know, we

00:30:34.140 know Congress

00:30:34.720 isn't going to

00:30:35.160 do the heavy

00:30:35.700 lifting.

00:30:37.000 And certainly

00:30:38.400 with trillions

00:30:39.600 of dollars in

00:30:40.200 government spending

00:30:40.780 every year, and

00:30:42.260 a lot of it's so

00:30:43.020 abusive, Judicial

00:30:45.460 Watch's work is

00:30:46.360 essential, if not

00:30:47.640 as essential as

00:30:49.580 ever.

00:30:50.760 Right.

00:30:51.480 And we

00:30:52.180 recommend that

00:30:52.960 everyone follow

00:30:54.020 Judicial Watch

00:30:55.300 and all of the

00:30:56.420 great work that

00:30:57.140 Tom Fenton and

00:30:58.600 his organization is

00:31:00.340 doing for the

00:31:00.980 country, for all

00:31:01.760 of us.

00:31:02.660 Tom, thanks for

00:31:03.220 being with us

00:31:03.700 here.

00:31:03.900 We appreciate it,

00:31:04.800 and God bless

00:31:05.660 you.

00:31:06.280 Thank you.

00:31:07.320 Tom Fenton, thank

00:31:08.260 you, and everybody,

00:31:09.240 thank you for being

00:31:10.060 with us today.

00:31:11.200 As Tom Fenton was

00:31:12.180 suggesting, and as

00:31:13.120 we do throughout,

00:31:14.860 call your

00:31:15.400 representatives, your

00:31:16.480 senators, and let 1.00

00:31:17.260 them know your

00:31:17.800 thinking and what

00:31:18.600 you think of what

00:31:19.400 they're doing.

00:31:20.420 That number is the

00:31:21.640 Capitol Switchboard,

00:31:22.800 and they will get

00:31:23.420 you to your

00:31:23.980 representative or

00:31:24.880 senator, just ask,

00:31:26.820 and here's that

00:31:27.400 number, 202-224-3121.

00:31:32.060 That's 202-224-3121 for

00:31:36.900 the Capitol Switchboard.

00:31:38.020 Again, the number,

00:31:39.640 202-224-3121.

00:31:44.520 Please join us

00:31:45.380 tomorrow.

00:31:46.080 Our guest here

00:31:46.800 tomorrow is Oversight

00:31:48.280 Committee Chairman James

00:31:49.420 Comer on the state of the

00:31:50.920 Congressional Investigations,

00:31:52.480 the Impeachment Inquiry,

00:31:54.000 and the latest developments

00:31:55.260 from his committee.

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