The Great America Show - GAETZ-GOP WINS MID-TERMS; GIORDANO-PARENTS TAKE BACK SCHOOLS

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.220 And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.700 Good day and hello, everybody. It's good to have you with us. We're looking forward to a terrific

00:00:19.480 show. Today's edition of the Great America Show will feature a closer look at the Biden White

00:00:25.240 House policies that appear to be, what is the word, otherworldly. Policies that are all but

00:00:32.760 incomprehensible and inexplicable whenever the White House decides to try to explain something,

00:00:39.080 which is rarely. Their policies and decisions are, what is the right word? Well, definitely,

00:00:45.800 it is, I'm sticking with otherworldly. Those policies and presidential decisions are just

00:00:52.140 downright incoherent. The word I'm looking for, though, is, without question, otherworldly.

00:00:59.420 And I'm not suggesting, now, before everybody gets excited on the left and we see the left-wing

00:01:05.740 media gin up and attack me, I'm not suggesting that President Biden and his cohorts in the White

00:01:11.740 House are extraterrestrial or anything like that. But they are different, different in so many ways,

00:01:19.300 different in their thinking, their attitudes, their regard for anyone who isn't a leftist Marxist

00:01:25.300 acolyte. Here's an example. All hell could break loose, in my opinion, on the Ukraine eastern border

00:01:32.480 with Russia at any moment if Vladimir Putin were to invade. Chinese President Xi making his usual

00:01:39.520 threats against Taiwan. And in this country, 78 law enforcement officers killed last month.

00:01:45.860 Last month. And street violence is spreading, mostly in large Democrat-run cities. Biden's legislative

00:01:54.080 agenda went up in flames on Capitol Hill. Only ashes are still smoldering there. His poll numbers are

00:02:00.760 a disaster, and Mrs. Biden has to lead him offstage and down steps. So what's his newest initiative?

00:02:08.840 President Biden now wants to unionize the entire federal government workforce. Unions are at their

00:02:15.800 weakest, lowest level in American history. So Biden wants to unionize the government, not only federal

00:02:22.160 employees, but all contractors who work with the federal government and for the federal government.

00:02:27.860 And that is a huge number. All to benefit unions that are all but dead in this country. These are

00:02:35.000 peculiar and frightening times under this Biden presidency, folks, and scary. And yes, downright otherworldly.

00:02:42.500 And guess who showed up? The always reliably anti-Trump, if you'll just put him on the Sunday

00:02:49.880 talk shows, Chris Christie, the former New Jersey governor, who among his many other transgressions against

00:02:57.280 President Trump and the nation, accused the 45th and 47th president of inciting the January 6 Capitol Hill riot.

00:03:05.120 So guess what the good old reliable Chris Christie did? He started walking back his accusation. The big old Obama 0.96

00:03:14.080 hugger never lasts too long, though, with any position he takes. Who knows what he's doing and why at any time?

00:03:22.160 And today we're taking up the January 6 outrage on this edition of The Great America Show. 0.96

00:03:27.540 President Trump is fed up with the Republican leadership playing patty cake with the dullard Democrats 0.86

00:03:33.560 running the January 6 inquisition. Mr. Trump blames the Democrats for all that happened that day. 0.75

00:03:40.480 And as usual, his logic is absolutely spot on. And the facts support him conclusively.

00:03:47.860 The former president says there would have been no problem of any kind that day had Speaker Pelosi

00:03:53.620 and the Democratic leadership on Capitol Hill simply listened to him and brought in 10,000

00:04:00.260 National Guardsmen to help keep order during that huge Capitol Hill rally. Pelosi famously refused or

00:04:08.680 infamously, if you prefer, refused. The rest is history. Of course, it's history. Pelosi and the

00:04:15.060 radical Dems are now trying to rewrite with their January 6 Soviet era show trial. We'll be taking all

00:04:22.320 of that up with our first guest today. Our first guest is Congressman Matt Gaetz, a great American,

00:04:27.420 a stout and stalwart supporter of President Trump, a friend of mine and all conservatives.

00:04:33.520 And Congressman, great to have you with us. Thanks for being with us on The Great America Show.

00:04:39.260 Oh, it's great to be with you, Lou, but it is so troubling to see that we are now in a new theater of the

00:04:46.140 Joe Biden war on work. That is really going to be one of the main legacies of his one-term presidency,

00:04:52.360 that you really have never had a more aggressive attempt by the federal government to harm workers

00:04:59.420 in this country, whether that's through the mandates that they've utilized, whether that's

00:05:03.660 through the explosion in unemployment benefits that they've paid out for people to stay home and not

00:05:09.620 work. And now you look at this effort to unionize the federal workforce. Now, there are a lot of good

00:05:14.520 folks all across the country that are in unions that are very grateful when we stand up and fight

00:05:19.340 against the unchecked immigration and the surrender to China. But what unions do quite

00:05:26.500 frequently, particularly public sector unions, is they protect those who are the least performing

00:05:32.560 and they harm those who perform at the highest level, who would see accelerated careers and more

00:05:38.920 opportunities and more pay. And you can't help but think that this is exactly what China wants out of

00:05:45.580 our federal workforce. While they do everything they can to promote their smartest and to get their

00:05:51.300 most technical people in a position to utilize stolen secrets to be able to advance their economy and

00:05:58.120 their military, here we are teaching to the middle of the class, thinning out the soup in the talent

00:06:03.700 pool. And I think that we can't just evaluate this as a political play for Joe Biden to provide a rescue

00:06:10.620 plan to unions. It's actually a geopolitical play that weakens us in comparison to the Chinese 0.78

00:06:17.240 Communist Party.

00:06:19.460 That's a great point. And I also wonder, for example, the post office has six public employee unions.

00:06:27.000 Some of the largest unions in the country are without a doubt public employee unions, government

00:06:33.880 unions. And how much of the federal workforce isn't already unionized?

00:06:40.380 It seems like he wants to get every last scrap that he can on the federal payroll into paying union dues.

00:06:48.760 Well, you and I both know that it is almost impossible to fire one of these professional federal

00:06:55.600 workers as is. So now their effort to federally unionize, it will make it harder to promote and to advance.

00:07:03.860 And to accelerate people outside of the union boss approved banding. I do have to laugh at this,

00:07:10.920 though, Lou. While Joe Biden is doing this, there's actually a movement afoot on Capitol Hill among

00:07:17.640 Democrat staffers in the most left wing offices to unionize the workforce on Capitol Hill. Think about 0.72

00:07:25.800 what a terrible idea that would be. But it's actually something that the left wing politicians

00:07:30.620 are having to deal with from their even more left wing staff members.

00:07:34.740 Yeah, left wing staff members and, of course, the deep state throughout the federal government system.

00:07:40.840 That's all they need is to be further and intractably entrenched in their positions, untouchable.

00:07:49.100 And it's really what's it's happening, isn't it? The federal employee is becoming an untouchable.

00:07:54.480 But it's the inverse of the Indian caste system. The untouchable is the strongest member of the 1.00

00:08:02.080 federal workforce.

00:08:04.340 No, you're absolutely right. But the Brahmins, those we should lift up and honor most, are those

00:08:10.720 great Americans who go out there and put on a uniform every day, who wear their name on their

00:08:16.960 shirt. And they want to be treated fairly by this government. It seems like the government is super

00:08:21.860 interested in perpetuating itself. But when it comes to the policy choices that actually would

00:08:28.000 help regular folks out there doing private sector jobs, picking up the slack where others are just at

00:08:33.980 home, cashing the unemployment check, this Biden administration is actually an enemy to those

00:08:39.700 folks. And I think that that it is a reason why you see America diminished in the world under this

00:08:46.120 presidency.

00:08:46.580 Yeah. And where are the world? You know, I, I always seem to have to ask this of you, Matt,

00:08:52.380 but where is the Republican leadership right now on these issues? Where are you standing up?

00:09:01.660 We lack a vision right now in the Republican party. And frankly, that is because Donald Trump is not

00:09:08.000 still in office as our leader, you know, laying out that daily vision, reinforcing it with social media

00:09:13.840 messaging, using the understanding of imagery and optics to encourage and inspire the American people

00:09:20.120 to will this economy and this nation forward. What you see right now from Republicans is, I think,

00:09:25.540 a real identity crisis. There are some who think that if we retake power, it gives us tremendous

00:09:31.740 leverage to maybe go and negotiate one or two things. Maybe we get, you know, another, you know,

00:09:37.860 few shekels for the wall, or maybe we're able to get a little bit of internal enforcement of

00:09:42.680 immigration, but no real, uh, widespread confrontation and opposition to this corrupt

00:09:49.860 Biden regime. I've laid out a different vision. I believe that we should start the Republican

00:09:54.580 majority by saying every committee is now an oversight committee. Every committee is going

00:10:00.180 to investigate the corrupt Biden departments that are pushing critical race theory on people that

00:10:06.100 are targeting parents as the department of justice did with an October 4th memo based on messages from

00:10:11.960 the national school board association, which have now been rescinded. Uh, and, and, you know,

00:10:16.860 throughout even what we're talking about now with the department of labor and the connection to the

00:10:22.800 union bosses and the school board memo was incited. I'll use the radical dims, uh, word. It was

00:10:31.100 incited by the education secretary, uh, and the school board association to create that piece of

00:10:38.480 propaganda. It is disgusting what this administration is doing, uh, whether it's, uh, on Capitol Hill on

00:10:46.640 January 6th or whether it is, uh, in fact, uh, on the border with illegal immigration, uh, running

00:10:54.000 rampant, the borders wide open. And of course, president Trump talking about his vision, he is sitting

00:11:00.720 there at Mar-a-Lago saying to the Republican party, what are you doing? I asked for 10,000 national

00:11:10.020 guardsmen on January 6th to help keep order. If they had been there instead of, uh, not being there,

00:11:16.460 uh, history would have been quite different. And by the way, that's, that's on Nancy Pelosi and the

00:11:22.060 democratic leadership on Capitol Hill. Don't you agree? I do. I don't want to lean too heavily into,

00:11:30.300 you know, why did the Democrats not do more to, you know, keep everything safe because they are

00:11:35.460 musing that pretext right now, Lou, to launch a broad war against the MAGA movement and against

00:11:43.700 the America first movement, whether it's people getting canceled from their banks, whether it's,

00:11:48.380 you know, grandmothers in Homer, Alaska getting raided, um, because somehow the feds think she's

00:11:54.580 got Nancy Pelosi's laptop, which of course she, she didn't and wasn't even in Washington DC.

00:11:59.520 So, so I think that the, the, the smarter questions to ask for Republicans, like, you know,

00:12:05.620 why is it that you saw people almost booby trapped with fences taken down people being waved in? And

00:12:12.060 are we really in a world where if someone just didn't manifest the intent to commit a crime,

00:12:17.120 then we're going to act like we have to lock them up, deprive them of lawyers, deprive them of

00:12:21.780 religious services so that we can maintain this fiction, that there's something dangerous about 0.99

00:12:26.580 Republicans because make no mistake about it, Lou, the entire Democrat strategy for 2022

00:12:32.880 is January 6th, 2021. It is, it is totally a look back and they're going to try to scare people

00:12:39.620 into thinking that, you know, we, that, that, the, the MAGA grandmother that lives down the street

00:12:44.880 from you might be a domestic terrorist. If you don't show up and vote for Democrats in the midterm

00:12:49.380 elections. And I think we've got to confront that head on. The Republican leadership in Washington

00:12:54.740 tell us, just don't talk about January 6th anymore. Yeah. You wouldn't, you know, that I knew that was

00:13:00.400 coming, Matt. I knew that was coming. Yep. You know, and the idea that the smart thing, the idea

00:13:06.660 that it's a smart thing, not to look at the facts, I think is entirely wrong. I think you have to look

00:13:13.520 at what president and, you know, and think about president Trump's batting average here. Uh, you know,

00:13:19.220 Babe Ruth, uh, Mickey Mantle didn't get close. Here's the deal. If we get the

00:13:24.720 answer as to why they turned down those 10,000 troops, we can understand that the reason in part

00:13:33.020 would be certainly, this is speculation, but could have been because they wanted to create madness on

00:13:42.520 that Hill and to divert some of those people and had the FBI in place there to do precisely that.

00:13:49.720 That is another question that needs to be answered. And the Republicans keep walking away from the

00:13:55.760 opportunity to get the answers. Why in the hell, why in the hell can't the FBI honestly answer

00:14:02.640 the U S Congress when it asked how many FBI agents, informants and, uh, and operators did you have in 0.66

00:14:12.580 that crowd that day? No, not only would they not answer that question, they wouldn't answer an even

00:14:18.960 more precise question, which is whether or not any of the federal government's assets agents or

00:14:24.380 operatives committed crimes on that day. Exactly. They wouldn't even, they wouldn't even tell you

00:14:29.400 that. I mean, you would think it would be quite easy if there wasn't any participation in criminal

00:14:35.560 activity for our own law enforcement and national security apparatus to step forward and say,

00:14:40.960 we can assure the country, none of our assets, operatives, agents, uh, engaged in any criminal

00:14:45.760 activity that day. Full stop. No sources and methods would be compromised. No great leak would

00:14:51.700 occur, but they can't say it. And I think that raises very important questions. And the real

00:14:57.480 question is whether or not when we get control, we'll have the gumption to get answers because,

00:15:03.400 you know, we had the days of Paul Ryan and Trey Dowdy where we had the gavels and we did not send one

00:15:09.180 freaking subpoena, not one. And yet I don't hear anyone calling out, uh, calling out, uh,

00:15:17.500 Kevin McCarthy who suddenly is coming out with all of this propaganda. He wants this. He wants that.

00:15:23.740 He'd like to do this and whatever, uh, some strong statements, but again, no action. Uh, he's running

00:15:30.140 for something. And I got to tell you, I still don't trust the man. I think he is a rhino to the bone.

00:15:37.460 And I don't believe if the Republican conference doesn't have the guts to get real conservative

00:15:43.520 America first leadership into the, uh, into that, uh, uh, Congress, uh, in 2022, uh, I think we're

00:15:54.160 lost. And I had to see this nonsense continue. The man is a rhino. He is meek by nature. And we need

00:16:02.440 people with vision. As you said, we need people with strength and energy, uh, and, and values that

00:16:09.000 matter America first and making America. I have proposed an alternative. I have proposed an 0.69

00:16:14.900 alternative to Kevin McCarthy. I have committed to nominating Donald Trump for speaker of the house

00:16:19.300 when we take the majority. And I've even told the president, you could do the job for about three

00:16:24.080 hours. You could walk in there. You could clean out, uh, some of the, uh, I think deep state elements

00:16:29.400 that exist on Capitol Hill and, uh, we could realign, you know, behind a person like Jim

00:16:34.000 Jordan. Uh, look, I think that that election is a ways away. There's work to be done, but who will

00:16:39.880 vote in that election will be the people who win these Republican primaries. And it's a very timely

00:16:45.080 conversation we're having right now, Lou, because we're just about to go next month into primary

00:16:50.640 season, March 1st, Texas, and that kicks it off. And it runs all the way through New Hampshire in

00:16:55.280 August. So that March to August time period, we're going to define what the energy and what the will

00:17:02.360 to fight is going to be in the Republican conference. And look, you know, and I know

00:17:07.820 this has a lot to do with political money and there's a very corrupt system that is well mechanized

00:17:14.560 in place to get money from political action committees and lobbyists and leadership funds,

00:17:20.660 you know, into the coffers of people in order to get them to vote a particular way on a leadership

00:17:27.120 race that happens. It is, it is straight up. And it's one of the reasons why I'm the only Republican

00:17:32.820 in the whole Congress that doesn't take any money from a single lobbyist or a single political action

00:17:38.260 committee, no matter what the type, no matter what the kind, because I find the whole thing very swampy.

00:17:43.380 Yeah. Swampy, disgusting, abhorrent are words that come to mind. But what I, what I don't understand

00:17:52.960 is why he is, why he is even, even there. Tell me why. It's money, Lou. Well, wait a minute,

00:18:02.760 wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, let me, let me finish the question a bit because I was

00:18:07.040 sorrowfully incomplete there. Why is he there? Since you guys have been working with him for years,

00:18:12.680 you know who he is, you know what he is, and you let this charade, you, not you, but the conference

00:18:19.640 permits this charade to go on. Who does he think he's fooling and why are, we're sitting here with

00:18:27.040 this and Mitch McConnell. If, if president Trump were to take over the speakership, no one would be

00:18:32.660 happier than me if it were a sick, but, but the only, if it were a six month stroll through the house

00:18:37.540 of representatives and then he gets on to campaign and win 2024. But I, I just, it would be a glorious

00:18:44.820 stroll. Well, I mean, I could tell you why it happens. Look, I mean, when we had an election

00:18:50.100 following Paul Ryan's departure for who was going to be leader of our conference, Jim Jordan ran and

00:18:56.400 Kevin McCarthy ran. Now, do you think Kevin McCarthy offered the more inspirational campaign? Do you think

00:19:02.860 Kevin McCarthy had the better message than Jim Jordan? Do you think Kevin McCarthy had more

00:19:07.680 compelling moments demonstrating a will to fight than Jim Jordan? Of course not. But you know what

00:19:13.080 he did? He raised a hell of a lot more money, tens of millions of dollars more, as a matter of fact.

00:19:18.380 And then that money found its way to the benefit of the people who were able to vote in a secret

00:19:23.780 ballot. Now I could tell you, I voted for Jim Jordan and yet Jim Jordan was beat by a margin of about

00:19:29.420 two to one in that election. So, I mean, this is not like some great mystery, how it happens.

00:19:35.040 It is a pay for play system on Capitol Hill with members of both parties. That is how the leadership

00:19:41.280 is selected. And I, the alternative I'm offering is vision is to say, let's, you know, let's get

00:19:47.540 everybody agreeing to convert these committees to oversight committees. And then let's hold the

00:19:52.400 leadership to account because I don't care who gets the big titles. I care who actually does the work

00:19:57.360 and actually sit, you know, gets the witnesses before the country to show our fellow Americans

00:20:02.220 that their pains are connected to a corrupt regime. Okay. I've got, you know, I don't often argue

00:20:07.760 about something, but I'm going to argue about that. The Speaker of the House and the majority leader in

00:20:14.220 the Senate are powerful, powerful jobs. And that's true. And constitutionally, even more important.

00:20:22.100 And I want you to worry. And I want every Republican to worry about who in the hell we're sending into

00:20:28.160 that house of representatives, because in off-year elections, as you well know, Congressman,

00:20:33.820 the incumbent president loses on average 26 seats in that house. And I, it's looking like every

00:20:41.300 pollster I respect is saying this is going to be a quote unquote wave election. And it really does

00:20:49.640 matter who you send. One more rhino. I could use names here, but they are sickening and they're

00:20:55.880 disgusting. And what they're doing to their districts and the people they represent is horrific. And the 0.99

00:21:01.720 Republican party has got to be sure that they are taking responsibility for whom they're electing.

00:21:08.460 And I do mean the party, not Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy.

00:21:15.220 Well, that starts with the activists who send us victors in primary elections to represent our

00:21:23.720 party. And if we get the firebrands, if we get the fighters, if we get the MAGA America first crew

00:21:29.820 through, we've got the best opportunity to impact this place. And people should be encouraged. It

00:21:34.800 actually doesn't take, you know, that many people. I mean, you look at the squad, the squad started as

00:21:40.720 four people. And now the entire democratic party looks and sounds like the squad. So we should maybe

00:21:46.120 take a page out of their playbook and use aggressive communication tools, call out people

00:21:51.360 with their inconsistent with our values, engage in primaries to get the right candidates over the

00:21:56.240 line. And then I believe we could be a rudder for the Republican conference and get us going in the

00:22:02.040 right direction. I think you're exactly right in that. I, I, the problem is exactly what you

00:22:07.460 enunciated at the beginning. There is a lack of vision. Uh, there's no contract with America or for

00:22:14.460 America. There is no, uh, green plan. There is no, uh, like, uh, IOC, no, uh, no leader for the,

00:22:23.280 for the ideological energy within the conference. And that's crazy. And it's time for it to be fixed.

00:22:30.460 And by the way, I've got to give Kevin McCarthy is doing one thing. He publicly, he publicly divested

00:22:36.820 the chamber of commerce from, uh, from the, uh, Republican, uh, conference. Now do, now should I

00:22:43.700 believe him or is this just more, uh, you know, cosmetic paint on the wall? Well, there are many

00:22:51.440 Republicans who are wringing their hands and wetting their beds in hopes that the PACs and special

00:22:56.900 interests will return to donating to them. And what you and I both know is that there is a complex web

00:23:02.820 of shell committees and leadership PACs, uh, and, you know, five 27 organizations that all this money

00:23:10.940 is, it's quite fungible and it shifts around, you know, so some people, they don't take corporate

00:23:15.360 PAC money, but they take ideological PAC money. And it, and it all is kind of emitting from the same

00:23:20.540 place, the same people who are funding entities like the U S chamber of commerce, a group that seems

00:23:25.960 to fight for everything except the U S and her commerce. Uh, and that's why I think the entire

00:23:31.540 K street experience for Republicans should be divested. If the Democrats and the woke corporations

00:23:37.860 and the special interests want each other, let them have each other. And let's go out there and

00:23:42.040 get hardworking Americans who love our country. Let's reset this political map. Let's go win and 0.97

00:23:47.740 compete in States in the Midwest and the American Southwest, like we never have before. And let's,

00:23:53.040 let's bring people into that vision of oversight of the Biden regime, and then a return to the

00:23:58.580 policies, principles, and style that Donald Trump brought to our great nation. If you guys waste this

00:24:06.140 election, I will never ever forgive the Republican party because this president has been a disaster from

00:24:13.220 a through Z. Uh, he has made every mistake that imaginable. He is a disgrace. Uh, and, and if you

00:24:22.620 if your party, if your party messes this up, I, I, I mean, it's, I don't know if the party would

00:24:29.620 survive. Well, if we can't, if we can't win this one, we probably won't survive. I mean,

00:24:33.640 we have every tailwind. Now we just got to get out there and do it. Absolutely. I got to ask you

00:24:39.240 just very quickly, your thoughts about, uh, Trudeau in Canada and his, uh, his rather let them eat cake

00:24:46.720 view of, uh, Canadian truckers. And do you think that we're going to see, uh, a contagion, uh, that

00:24:53.840 will extend to lower North America, that is into the United States and see our truckers, uh, ever

00:25:00.940 respond to the same way that the Canadian truckers had to do. But fortunately, our truckers haven't

00:25:06.880 been treated as badly yet, but courage is contagious. And whether it's, you know, the flight

00:25:12.500 attendants or the pilots or, uh, the, uh, police or the nurses, uh, who have stood up against these

00:25:19.360 mandates, I'm in solidarity with all of them. You know, with, uh, with Trudeau, it seems like

00:25:23.780 he's got either a dose of COVID-19 or coward 19 who can even tell anymore. Um, but the, the, you know,

00:25:30.960 utilization of the government to punish the working people of the country is typically not something

00:25:36.060 that ends well over the course of human history. And our neighbors to the North should take note of

00:25:40.920 that. And by the way, we should also take note that the American people are first afraid of their

00:25:46.800 own government right now, whether it is an attorney general talking about domestic terrorists, as he

00:25:53.060 describes, uh, parents in a school board meeting who get unruly because they're protesting the treatment

00:25:59.560 of their children, or whether it is a lack of, of, of community control over city governments,

00:26:05.820 because the unions have taken over because the left has decided to dominate at every level.

00:26:13.540 Uh, it goes on and on, uh, and government as the enemy of the people is a dangerous thing,

00:26:20.020 as you point out. And it is exactly a danger, a prominent danger right now in America. Unfortunately,

00:26:25.620 as always, uh, Congressman, we give our guests the last word, and this is your opportunity. And thanks.

00:26:31.800 Thanks Congressman for being with us. Hey, thanks for having me on. Thanks for being, uh, such a,

00:26:38.140 a guiding light for our movement. I would invite folks to also, uh, subscribe to my podcast called

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00:26:54.740 the talent is, uh, exceptional on that podcast. I must say, uh, I appreciate it so much, man. Thanks

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00:27:09.820 broadcast, this podcast, and, uh, thanks for much so much for being with us. Thank you, my friend.

00:27:17.080 Thank you. Congressman Matt Gates, a great American. He is, uh, I would like the Republican party to take

00:27:24.220 his energy, his judgment, his logic, his intelligence and, uh, values and replicated across 434 other

00:27:34.140 seats, uh, for, for consideration, if you will, in selecting the new Congress. We appreciate you

00:27:42.020 being with us. We're going to continue with the great America show. Please stay with us. We'll be

00:27:47.520 right back. You know, this may not be certainly typical of this show, but wow. I just have to

00:27:55.920 start with Joe Rogan, man. When you have 2 zillion people following your podcast, some of those crazy

00:28:03.040 haters on the fringe, the fringe left will certainly go crazy. And that's what we're witnessing. And

00:28:10.780 there's some positive developments I want to share with you. And the last week, uh, you know, over the

00:28:15.960 last week, I was pleased to see a few folks step up for Joe Rogan, uh, and support him, including

00:28:22.080 the rock Dwayne Johnson, the rock. Then it's discovered Joe Rogan had said some ugly things

00:28:29.400 over the years. One particular word, a racial slur that he acknowledges. He said, and he also

00:28:36.720 apologized and it, you could tell it was heartfelt, but it turns out the rock. Isn't the rock.

00:28:45.160 Isn't a rock. I mean, very disappointing to me. I thought he was standing up for a pal

00:28:51.140 and maybe the first amendment even. And then he hears that Joe Rogan had used a racial slur

00:28:57.560 on his podcast from years past. And the rock almost immediately shrinks to pebble size and

00:29:05.880 backs away from Joe. Not a good move. And certainly not a good look rock. Can I still call you rock?

00:29:13.120 Should I call you rock? I think probably not now, but we'll be talking about the Spotify CEO, Daniel

00:29:21.500 Eck, who finally stood up for Rogan, shut down the leftist cannibals who are trying to devour 1.00

00:29:28.520 Joe Rogan. You know, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, and their ilk. We'll be talking about the CEO who

00:29:36.460 is shutting down the cancel culture on his platform, Spotify. Speaking of rocks, a shout out to Steve

00:29:43.680 Bannon, who is the creator and host of the powerhouse podcast, Bannon's war room. I want to

00:29:50.200 thank him for having me on his highly successful, hugely successful war room. I was a guest on the

00:29:56.600 war room last Friday, even though Steve and I are old friends and we look at the world in amazingly

00:30:02.120 similar ways. I was struck by just how much fun it can be to sit down with someone in an interview

00:30:08.540 with whom you have agreement rather than disagreement. It was fun to be talking with a

00:30:14.820 kindred spirit, a patriot, a conservative, plain spoken. As they say, Steve and I are simpatico and a

00:30:22.220 hoot it was. Thanks again, Steve. Appreciate it. And now I want to bring in Dom Giardano,

00:30:28.120 radio talk show host, a Philadelphia radio legend. He started out as an elementary and high school

00:30:34.800 teacher, and now he's one of the hundred most influential radio talk hosts in the entire country.

00:30:42.680 Dom, great to have you with us here on the Great America Show. How are you, my friend?

00:30:47.200 Well, tremendous, Lou. Thank you very much. And one of those things with radio is when I would sit

00:30:52.940 in for Lou Dobbs, that was a big jump for me. Well, you're kind to say that. You know, you and I

00:30:58.740 have been friends a long time. We've been in this broadcasting stuff a long time. And I don't think

00:31:07.600 I've ever seen a situation where anyone as successful as Joe Rogan, who is delivering an audience that would

00:31:15.440 be unthinkable in broadcasting and radio or television, either one, in any other medium.

00:31:20.900 And here he is being attacked from every quarter. Oh, wait a minute. Not every quarter. It's just

00:31:28.160 from the left. The left who were once, you know, I'm a product of the 60s. The left once was all about

00:31:34.740 free speech, free spirits, free thought. And now they're coming at people like fascists. Your reaction?

00:31:45.760 Yeah, Lou, I've been asking that question, too, particularly with Neil Young. I don't impute to

00:31:50.060 say Neil Young just to get his name out there or whatever, or Howard Stern. But there are people

00:31:56.180 that now that used to be counterculture or at least freedom of speech for whatever reason that now revel

00:32:04.180 in this authoritarianism, which is sometimes petty, sometimes severe. I've had on some national people

00:32:11.300 talking about this. We still don't know what the motivation is with this type of virtue signaling.

00:32:16.840 But the thing that jumps out of me are the number of conservatives who have been principled

00:32:23.420 on Whoopi Goldberg, for example, and have said, look, we don't like where she was going with this

00:32:28.480 stuff on the Holocaust, certainly. Everyone knows trying to diminish that or coming up with this,

00:32:34.040 whatever was in her mind is inappropriate.

00:32:36.740 I'm sorry. Not calling for her to be fired. Not saying anything like that. Understanding

00:32:42.420 that in the heat of things, people may make mistakes or sometimes say things that they have

00:32:49.820 to apologize for. And if they do apologize, we ought to move on. But there are this gang on the other

00:32:57.200 side that I believe, Lou, part of it is it's kind of like an avocation for some of these people,

00:33:03.540 meaning this is what they it's like a hobby I've seen up close. It's always another target,

00:33:10.040 always bringing someone else down and celebrating that. And Rogan is even under fire from a weekend

00:33:17.560 host on MSNBC. Oh, no, not a weekend host on MSNBC. Bringing all of that awesome NBC power to bear.

00:33:27.020 I mean, the guy I mean, they don't have an audience during the week, let alone on the weekend.

00:33:32.440 Well, that may be true. But I found this to be unusual. It wasn't the usual line of attack.

00:33:37.320 She thought, how does an ordinary guy like this get 11 million people on podcasts? Something's wrong

00:33:43.300 with that. There's a jealousy factor here to Lou, I think they can't understand why a lot of people

00:33:49.580 would listen to talk radio, listen to your podcast, or Joe Rogan's podcast. They resent that part of it

00:33:57.880 deep down, too. Yeah, well, you know, they're small people, they're petty people. But you know what,

00:34:03.000 I don't give them a pass. I don't give Joni Mitchell a pass or Neil Young, or any of the other

00:34:09.660 virtue signaling cannibals of the left. I mean, they're really going after Rogan, just simply

00:34:19.120 because they think they can. They want relevance. I don't know. I'm not going to psychoanalyze them.

00:34:24.820 I'm just going to say they're very, to me, they're being very ugly. There's absolutely no room in this 0.95

00:34:32.760 country for those who want to shut down the thoughts and expression of fellow citizens.

00:34:39.660 This is a free country with free expression. And you know, you know, nothing offends me quite as

00:34:45.880 much as somebody burning the flag or disrespecting the flag. I mean, I went, it drove me nuts to watch

00:34:53.520 those athletes in the NBA and to listen to some of their ridiculous remarks on the sidelines of NFL 0.94

00:35:03.040 games kneeling. I mean, that's, I was offended. Let me tell you. And by the way, 0.89

00:35:09.660 I'm just one of tens of millions of people in this country who were offended. Why isn't there that

00:35:15.020 same reaction to when we're offended? Should we, I mean, did we go out, you know, asking people to

00:35:22.540 throw them off the football team? No. Or the basketball team, whatever it was. We didn't.

00:35:30.860 We expressed our concern, our alarm, and our disgust at what they were doing. So why in the world do we

00:35:40.440 tolerate the left, simply because they're the left, acting and behaving in such disgustingly un-American 0.62

00:35:49.540 ways? Well, Lou, I think we are, it's a slow but short process. We're seeing more independents,

00:35:56.920 more other people say, you know what, this has gone way too far. The only group that I'm worried

00:36:03.720 about, though, very worried about, are people of college age and a little bit beyond. They are still

00:36:10.260 steeped in this. There's going to take a lot of years to get them out of it. In polling, they agree

00:36:16.020 with cancel culture. I mean, they, at the university of Georgetown University, we have the law school

00:36:23.040 people wanting to have a place to cry because of a law professor Shapiro, who's a libertarian,

00:36:29.560 remarking, a place to cry and reparations because this guy says something about Biden

00:36:37.420 and a Supreme Court pick in a pretty elevated way, challenging the idea of affirmative action or what

00:36:44.460 appears to be affirmative action. That's the, those are the people I worry about that have been steeped 0.98

00:36:50.360 in this for their entire childhood and now even through law school. But beyond that, we are seeing

00:36:57.320 a pushback on this. And I think, as I said, conservatives not jumping in on Whoopi Goldberg,

00:37:02.560 for example, are setting an example and then using that as a launch point to attack cancel culture.

00:37:11.240 Yeah. You know, launch points, all of that is, as I would expect from you, it's very sophisticated,

00:37:16.520 but I'm, I'm more of a, a direct fella on, on a lot of things. Whoopi Goldberg said what she said.

00:37:23.660 If ABC doesn't like it, it's their, their shop. They can pull the pin if they want to. I think

00:37:29.640 they're doggone fools if they do, because she has an audience. She is, I mean, that program is about 0.99

00:37:37.220 being provocative. It's about outrageous ideas that if you wanted to really get serious about politics

00:37:43.860 and society, I don't think you would pick those four or five people as the leading intellectual

00:37:50.120 luminaries that you might want to have assess, analyze, and recommend for their conclusions.

00:37:58.100 I just don't think it's, that's the point. The point is it's entertainment. Take it for what it is.

00:38:03.500 Uh, and that brings us to Daniel Eck, who finally I said last week, Daniel Eck, your first job as CEO

00:38:10.940 of Spotify is to stand up for your talent, for your artists, for your performers. And you know that

00:38:18.600 they had him so far, I think on the run, I think it took him a while to get a speed under him,

00:38:23.460 but he finally stands up and says, we're not canceling Joe Rogan. We're not going to give in.

00:38:29.860 These are my words. He didn't say this, but this is the effect of what he said.

00:38:34.000 We're not going to give in to these, this cannibalistic bloodlust on the part of the left.

00:38:40.060 Uh, and so it's, uh, you know, I have to say to him, congratulations. And thank you for standing

00:38:46.320 up for the first amendment for Joe Rogan for free speech. Your thoughts. Oh, absolutely. Lou. And,

00:38:53.000 uh, I've seen that, uh, he's been rewarded at least in the short term. The stock is up 15%. There are good

00:38:59.200 signs, but the New York times editorial page. Now they have a new thing. They say they're calling

00:39:06.120 all out on Taylor Swift to take her music away from Spotify. And let us not forget as a backdrop,

00:39:17.980 Mr. The president and first, the former first lady they're on Spotify. They have not pulled out.

00:39:23.920 They have not publicly threatened to pull out. And the New York times editorial, he's got a,

00:39:29.020 he's got a big mansion in Hawaii to pay for it. Now he's gotta be, he's gotta be thoughtful here.

00:39:34.280 By the way, did you see that scowling face he had when he was with the sea wall wasn't going well

00:39:39.500 there? Yes. Yeah. I, it's kind of a strange thing that this man who was all about climate change and,

00:39:45.300 uh, and builds his mansions and buys his mansions right next to the ocean. He doesn't seem to be

00:39:51.760 too worried about all of that, uh, climate change and higher seas as a result. I, and he's standing

00:39:58.280 there without a mask and everybody around him, by the way, if there's any confusion here, we're

00:40:03.140 talking about Barack Obama, former president of the United States, standing there scowling about the

00:40:08.940 work apparently that his architects and his builders were doing. Well, they're the part of the New York

00:40:14.480 times editorial that really got me at the end though, is where I come down with, uh, Rogan and

00:40:20.520 that is the health of the country. They say is at risk with this guy. This is how preposterous it's

00:40:27.180 gotten that, uh, people actually believe that people listening to Rogan think they're getting

00:40:32.920 medical advice mainly. And when I've listened, because I'm intrigued, Lou is a talk radio host,

00:40:39.240 what he does to draw this number of people. He has endorsed Mrs. Obama.

00:40:44.480 As a presidential candidate, he likes a lot of Bernie Sanders ideas. He talks a lot about drug

00:40:50.800 legalization of one sort or another. He's a Democrat for crying out loud.

00:40:55.560 Yes. And mixed martial arts thrown in. So the idea that he's fixated on COVID,

00:41:01.960 he reminds me a lot in a different kind of way and a roguish kind of a little bit different than

00:41:07.120 Larry King, who used to say, I'm not prepared at all. I just want to learn and throw the ball to a

00:41:12.720 guest or two. I wouldn't recommend it to do that as a talk host, but there's that authentic appeal

00:41:18.980 to this. And he's kind of an every man. Yeah. I got to say, I've got to, Tom, you got me

00:41:26.140 defending Joe Rogan in more than one way. And I, I'm defending him in terms of his right to free

00:41:31.960 expression, uh, and the first amendment and what he said, uh, and his slurs that he made are, uh,

00:41:40.080 you know, regrettable and he regrets them and he apologized, but the man has a sensibility, uh, and

00:41:47.320 a, uh, an intellect. Uh, and I think he does a terrific job. I mean, I just really do. I, in this

00:41:55.200 case, I would say 200 million people can't be wrong about this guy. I mean, this is an unprecedented

00:42:00.860 audience. Uh, and Larry King, by the way, he meant exactly what he said. He didn't know. I, you know,

00:42:07.420 I knew Larry worked with Larry for years, 20 years. He didn't do a, he didn't do an ounce

00:42:13.540 of research on anything or anyone. And what I meant is that, uh, Rogan is not a doctrinary.

00:42:20.700 He's not trying to indoctrinate anybody about anything as far as I can tell. Oh, I think

00:42:25.040 that's absolutely true. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, it's not a time in our country for people will

00:42:31.220 be telling others what to do because, you know, these mandates, and I'm not talking about just

00:42:35.920 the overt authoritarian mandates of the CDC, the NIH, the white house, this white house 0.73

00:42:42.180 in particular, uh, I'm talking about anybody who is sitting there insisting that somebody

00:42:47.000 think the way you think as Joni Michel and young, who are they, uh, to, to the arrogance

00:42:54.980 of it all, uh, isn't anybody offended by just outright ball face arrogance and the abuse

00:43:02.560 of their, uh, their public positions, uh, as performers, artists, talent, it's, it's outrageous

00:43:10.420 because they just aren't the people you're going to go to, uh, for consideration on a

00:43:16.060 host of issues. I might go to them. I wouldn't might if it were about music, if it was about,

00:43:22.140 uh, uh, songwriting, you know, I'd be all about listening to them. Uh, but the rest of it,

00:43:27.680 you know, uh, as I said, a product of the sixties, I've been there, I've seen that, uh, and the left

00:43:34.120 is becoming increasingly fascististic rather than, uh, more American and it's un-American

00:43:40.940 to go in the direction we're headed. I think let's turn to, uh, the Stacey Abrams of that horrible 0.92

00:43:48.520 picture, uh, in the front of a class of children, they look to be somewhere around, I'm going to

00:43:55.480 guess six or seven years of age, uh, all in mask. And she is sitting, sitting there, uh, without a

00:44:02.700 mask beaming in the midst of those children. And you're not supposed to put kids that young

00:44:08.680 in mass. It's just not done carbon dioxide. It affects their minds. Uh, it's not, it's just

00:44:16.080 outrageous what they're insisting on doing. Uh, and people seem to be just clueless, whatever the

00:44:23.480 school of thought, whatever the policies, uh, it's terrible. Stacey Abrams with those kids, Obama with

00:44:29.280 those, uh, workers, Gavin Newsom with Magic Johnson, uh, the mayor of Los Angeles holding his breath.

00:44:35.940 He said he didn't, he didn't inhale anything. So what do you think? Uh, Lou, exactly. And, uh,

00:44:44.660 I think Abrams and she's right about this, uh, gets a pass, the media principally. She's able to do

00:44:51.220 this. The kids are not at risk. She might be more at risk if she believes in your people have said,

00:44:57.580 yeah, she does believe in wearing a mask. They tried to say she only took it off to speak. And

00:45:02.740 that appears to be not true here in Philadelphia, Philadelphia public schools are now demanding

00:45:09.700 starting today in N95 or something like an N95 mask. They've gone beyond the cloth mask. I only wore

00:45:17.580 that a little last week just to see for an hour or so what it would be like. It's ghastly and to take

00:45:23.860 little ones, first grade, second grade, kindergarten, and expect them seven or eight hours a day to do

00:45:30.420 that, to be able to focus, to pay attention, et cetera. Philadelphia public schools has a lot bigger

00:45:35.640 problems, but that's on paper what they demanded starting today. Yeah. And some jurisdictions are saying

00:45:41.700 to their school children, no more masks. It's, uh, it's outrageous. They're, they're not the ones

00:45:47.600 who've been sick. They're not the ones who have been, uh, uh, for whom the disease is, uh, most lethal.

00:45:54.160 Uh, this is, there's been this ridiculous attempt on the part of the CDC government, uh, to, to make it

00:46:02.940 one size fits all the same advice, the same shot, the same vaccine, the same, uh, uh, priorities for

00:46:11.040 all, for everyone, except when they put together the order for the vaccine, they went with those most

00:46:18.480 vulnerable populations first. That is the older folks, uh, 75 and older than 65 and older, 50 and 0.91

00:46:26.780 older. And the reality is we know what the reality is. The, the, does the virus was not affecting

00:46:34.460 children. And what was affecting children were the shutdowns, the mass, and the terrible indifference

00:46:42.140 on the part of our public health officials to the wellbeing of the most underserved, uh, communities

00:46:48.140 in this country. It's outrageous. And this business of listening to government, like, uh, it's the fount

00:46:54.220 of all wisdom and truth when in fact, it is the opposite in most, in most cases.

00:47:00.740 I agree. And Lou, the thing that gets me as a former teacher, the teachers unions, the one silver

00:47:06.760 lining in this have outed themselves forever. Randy Weingarten, particularly the AFT, but the

00:47:11.880 anyway, they are clearly now seen by more and more people. I have people that said, well, I vaguely

00:47:18.080 didn't like the teachers union, but everybody deserves a right to a representative on the national

00:47:23.260 level now. So my hope is that some teachers are starting to push back, but it's very difficult,

00:47:28.900 very difficult in a school. When you have one of these giant organizations, Weingarten though,

00:47:34.480 has had to delete a lot of tweets and the, uh, the unions have been a driving force. I think it's just

00:47:40.160 a power thing to say, remember, we shut these schools down. We can do it again. When a contract comes

00:47:45.980 up. You know what? It's time for everybody to understand until parents in this country to take

00:47:52.060 charge and risk being called a domestic terrorist, by the way, if they raise their voice at a school

00:47:57.240 board meeting or a County supervisor's meeting in some jurisdictions. Uh, but certainly the attorney

00:48:03.820 general will, uh, thinks of unruly parents as domestic terrorists. We've got a government that's

00:48:10.620 working against us. And when you say it's a power thing, I want to be more, I think I'd like to be

00:48:16.620 more specific. This is a question of who runs this country and parents are going to run the schools.

00:48:24.320 Parents and the community are going to run those schools. Not, not Randy Weingarten and the, uh,

00:48:31.280 Federation of Teachers and the NEA. Uh, there's nothing, there's no way to pussyfoot around this.

00:48:37.840 This is a pure raw political power issue that, uh, is pitting the Biden administration against

00:48:45.960 every American who wants his and her freedom and wants their families safe and protected

00:48:52.000 from that level of government interference. Yeah, Lou. And where I am in Pennsylvania,

00:48:58.940 we bring on a woman who won 133 school board seats in November in the last go round organizing across the 0.97

00:49:06.580 state. It was the year of making school boards into a major deal. These boring type of things

00:49:14.380 they drone on. Usually these became incredible here. And you're right. Parents have taken power

00:49:20.840 back. They're running for school board. They're on school boards. They're monitoring this. They're

00:49:25.660 opening up debates about some of the books that have been involved here. And most times the questions

00:49:31.800 on some of these books have been legitimate. I don't endorse everyone, but most debates have been

00:49:37.200 really, we're going to do that with eight to 10 year olds, that type of approach. It's all opened up and

00:49:43.120 politically Democrats have basically been defending the side of the school boards, et cetera. That is an

00:49:51.400 issue that brings suburbanites to listen again to what the Republican party should be about and can be

00:49:57.480 about. And Republican, Democrat, if a school board isn't listening to parents and putting their

00:50:04.460 students first, then that's a problem. And that problem should be resolved. And those people should

00:50:10.580 be moved off that board. Those teachers should be moved out of that school. That administration 0.96

00:50:15.420 should be moved out. And we can't have a situation that we do now in this country where the teachers

00:50:21.760 unions have such immense power that they basically are entrenched. Now, what I'd like to know is,

00:50:29.320 do you think it's about time that everybody understood that the Biden administration is

00:50:34.540 trying to seize control of the federal government, the deep state for the Democratic Party in perpetuity

00:50:41.180 with its efforts to unionize 3 million, over 3 million federal employees and the millions of

00:50:48.760 contractors that support the federal government? This is outrageous.

00:50:55.280 I would agree. I don't know day to day with Biden, Lou. It's very hard to tell what he knows and what

00:51:01.700 he doesn't know. But certainly the people around him, the ones we know and others, this is what they're

00:51:07.200 all about. They see the window closing, but the midterms coming up. This is their generational shot

00:51:13.000 to cement these things. And once they're in there, like Obamacare, we know how difficult it is to

00:51:18.680 get rid of them. Well, we do know one thing. The teachers unions are entrenched, and every school

00:51:25.140 district in the country that is not run by the left is in desperate need of removing those unions

00:51:32.480 to work as hard as they can to return local control, parental control, citizen control to their school

00:51:41.460 boards, to their communities. Dom, as always on this, on this podcast, we, we give the guests are

00:51:48.600 the final word. And if you will, take it away. Well, Lou, thank you very much. My final word is

00:51:56.900 the Great America Show is everything I thought it would be with Lou. And I'm so thrilled to see you

00:52:02.240 involved in this. Tough act to follow. I don't know, your last guest may have been President Trump.

00:52:07.700 And I've never seen a more exciting time, Lou, despite what we talked about, all the downside,

00:52:14.820 what the left is up to. I look at how the left is now having to say they didn't say defund police,

00:52:21.700 and the stuff that President Biden's trying to do on this. I have a lot of hope going forward.

00:52:27.120 And this podcast, I think, is a great vehicle. I know how much our listeners appreciate it. So,

00:52:35.180 Lou, thank you, as always. It's always an honor to be with you.

00:52:38.540 Dom, thank you. I appreciate it, old friend. All the best to you. Have fun, and we'll talk soon.

00:52:44.300 Dom Giordano. Appreciate it. And thanks for being with us. We appreciate it. We wish you the very best

00:52:51.600 until we meet again, hopefully tomorrow. Please, please join us then. God bless you all, and God

00:52:59.920 bless America. Join us again tomorrow for the Great America Podcast. Stay in the fight. Truth,

00:53:05.300 justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

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