The Great America Show - January 20, 2023


GEORGE SOROS DOMINATES THE MARXIST DEM PARTY & THEY’RE DANGEROUS SAYS BRENT BOZELL


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Brent Bozell and Lou Dobbs join me to discuss the latest in the Biden/Biden scandal, the $31.4 trillion debt ceiling crisis, and the latest on Joe Biden's secret documents.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. This is The Great America Show, coming to you in the interest of truth, justice, and the American way.
00:00:08.320 Welcome to the show. Glad to have you with us. Tell your friends and family all about us.
00:00:13.360 Let's gather around now and take up some of the madness that's gripping this country.
00:00:18.740 I apologize, by the way, if I have to whisper at any point today about certain critical subjects and events.
00:00:25.740 I'll try to whisper as loudly as possible, if I can.
00:00:30.440 My caution is because, well, frankly, we've received a bit of a warning out here at our undisclosed location from which we originate our broadcast and podcast.
00:00:40.860 This tip, the warning I'm talking about, was straightforward, warning us that we're being wiretapped.
00:00:48.560 I don't know if that's the case, not for sure, certainly, but the source of the warning is highly credible.
00:00:55.120 But made more so in this age of surveillance and, of course, our FBI and Justice Department and intelligence agencies who've shown no restraint in violating our constitutional rights, even those of a sitting president.
00:01:11.820 No, I'm not talking about this president.
00:01:14.080 And I'm referring, of course, to President Trump, who has been the target of the FBI, the Marxist Dems, and the Deep State for seven years now. 0.54
00:01:23.520 And still they do their DOJ master's bidding.
00:01:28.180 They're all corrupt.
00:01:29.480 It's getting worse, not better.
00:01:31.440 And the rod of political corruption seems to have seized every department of the federal government.
00:01:37.540 The Marxist Dems and the Deep State are running the federal government.
00:01:41.680 Take the role of the Secret Service in this Biden secret document scandal.
00:01:47.380 Remember what happened when Congress wanted to see the visitors' logs at the Wilmington residence of the Bidens.
00:01:55.540 Wanted to see those visitors' logs for the five-year period that apparently those secret documents were strewn around the Wilmington house.
00:02:06.240 Now, those documents may have been stolen.
00:02:08.020 But the fact is, at first, the Secret Service backed up the Biden White House, which had said there were no visitor logs for Biden's Delaware residence.
00:02:25.360 A Secret Service spokesman even lied through his teeth when he told Fox News that they didn't have their own visitor logs because, quote,
00:02:34.940 it's a private residence, end quote, as if President Biden suddenly is no longer president when he sits down in an easy chair in Wilmington, Delaware.
00:02:46.820 Well, as I said at the time, that was pure bull.
00:02:50.560 As if President Biden became good old Joe private citizen when he went to Wilmington.
00:02:56.260 Now, after a few days of stonewalling Congress, they finally had to admit, yes, they do know the names of those visitors,
00:03:08.500 and now they're going to be so gracious as to hand over the names of the visitors to Congressman James Comer's House Oversight Committee.
00:03:17.060 How about that?
00:03:18.000 President Biden said he had his garage locked while those secret documents were in there.
00:03:23.680 But so was drug-addled security risks on Hunter Biden as well.
00:03:28.740 And Biden, the younger, lived there in the Wilmington house for a period of time while collecting big money,
00:03:35.740 millions of dollars from you-know-who, the communist Chinese.
00:03:39.960 And so it goes with the Biden crime family and the corrupt federal agencies that protect them, that cover for them.
00:03:48.000 Speaking of big money, the government hitting the $31.4 trillion debt ceiling yesterday, and still the sun came up.
00:03:56.820 All was well.
00:03:58.100 The Republicans and Dems seem to want to make a confrontation out of this because, as I've said,
00:04:04.040 it's lousy politics for the Republicans, and the Dems will always use it as a club to pound the Republicans 0.93
00:04:10.840 and distract from the huge GOP political and legislative victories that are expected over this spring.
00:04:19.160 And that's why I'm urging the Republican leadership not to go ahead and confront Joe Biden on this issue.
00:04:26.800 Not this time.
00:04:27.920 The timing is wrong.
00:04:29.260 And history says it's not a good fight, not a fight worth having.
00:04:33.560 And the Republicans, by the way, every time they've tried it over the course of the past 30 years,
00:04:39.380 it just simply has been an abject failure for them.
00:04:42.480 And they don't need to have anything distract from what will be a very successful legislative and political run.
00:04:50.240 They're right on policy, but this would be a very bad tactic to implement.
00:04:55.620 Our guest today knows just how corrupt the corporatist media has become.
00:05:00.520 Joining us today is conservative activist Brent Bozell.
00:05:04.200 Brent is the founder and the head of the watchdog group, the Media Research Center.
00:05:08.920 Brent watches the leftist media for us all.
00:05:11.700 Thanks for being here, Brent.
00:05:13.120 And I want to start with this 118th Congress, the almost week-long drama in which 20 conservative
00:05:19.620 reformers challenged the old rhino guard, fought for real reform, and won.
00:05:24.600 It was great television and exciting, even exhilarating, in my opinion, democracy in action.
00:05:31.560 Your thoughts, Brent?
00:05:32.880 Well, you know, Lou, thank you.
00:05:34.380 First, thank you for having me.
00:05:36.360 I agree completely.
00:05:38.800 And I think that what was riveting was that we saw something we haven't seen for 16 years, a debate.
00:05:47.500 We saw a real debate.
00:05:49.720 This is what Congress is supposed to do.
00:05:52.940 There is supposed to be rigorous debate on the issues, rigorous debate on legislation.
00:05:59.840 You know, I was talking to someone this weekend, and he began to complain about the rhinos.
00:06:07.860 And I cut him off.
00:06:09.980 And I said, we have to fundamentally understand something.
00:06:14.120 Liberal Republicans, not moderates, because, you know, nobody uses the phrase liberal Republican
00:06:19.360 like they don't exist.
00:06:21.500 Liberal Republicans are the status quo.
00:06:26.740 We don't want to admit it, but they are.
00:06:29.360 We conservatives, if you look at what the definition of Republican is these days, we're the rhinos.
00:06:35.120 We're on the outside looking in.
00:06:37.760 The perception is that this is a conservative party.
00:06:41.720 Why?
00:06:42.340 Because everybody runs for Congress on exactly what Chip Boyd was talking about.
00:06:49.220 Everybody runs for Congress talking exactly the language of Andy Biggs and Matt Gaetz.
00:06:54.980 But then once they are elected, they walk into those chambers, and it's the middle finger
00:07:00.560 to the people who elected them.
00:07:02.700 And what happened was, this time, the Gang of 20 said, no more.
00:07:07.160 This time, we're going to make you own up to it.
00:07:10.340 And the way we're going to do it is that we're going to hold up the speaker until you agree
00:07:14.660 publicly and formally and unequivocally to do that which you promised to do, which you
00:07:21.840 haven't been doing.
00:07:22.400 And one of them was, you know, Lou, I think that my guess is that if you were to interview
00:07:27.640 90% of the American people, they wouldn't know that there hasn't been a budget that's
00:07:33.200 been passed in, what is it, 16 years?
00:07:35.720 It has been just one omnibus after another, one continuing resolution after another.
00:07:42.840 This is all process, process.
00:07:45.020 But for people who have more important things to do in their lives than listen to me, what
00:07:50.060 it means is that they didn't have to have any debate on anything.
00:07:54.420 It just continued and continued and continued.
00:07:56.940 Now, Democrats like that.
00:07:58.340 This is something Democrats do.
00:07:59.700 They spend money.
00:08:00.800 And they put us massively into debt.
00:08:04.020 And they don't care about it.
00:08:05.400 Meanwhile, Republicans give speeches about how awful it is.
00:08:08.720 But they were going along with it year after year after year.
00:08:12.060 That boils been lanced.
00:08:13.360 And now you understand why they were so upset.
00:08:16.360 Well, I know part of the reason, and I also know the reason for our opportunity to see
00:08:24.300 this Congress that has been a cesspool.
00:08:28.940 And I'm going to be very direct about this, folks, as my audience would expect.
00:08:35.880 The Congress is corrupt.
00:08:37.940 It is just a shadow of what it once was.
00:08:45.240 And it has become nothing more than a clearinghouse.
00:08:48.820 And the 435 Congressmen, about 400 of them, are superfluous and are unnecessary.
00:08:56.920 Their vote doesn't mean much.
00:08:59.080 They don't get to read legislation, or at least they didn't until this, the 118th Congress,
00:09:03.960 thanks to the Freedom Caucus and the new speaker, of course, who agreed to the terms that have
00:09:09.840 every opportunity to make, I believe, the 118th Congress the most transparent and most
00:09:15.240 effective and most representative of Congresses, certainly, as you say, 16 years.
00:09:23.120 And I think we have to even go back a little farther to find a Congress that's going to
00:09:27.240 be this much in the channel of tradition in American governance.
00:09:33.960 And the close midterms, Brent, to me, they turned out to be a blessing in disguise.
00:09:41.580 That 222 to 212, that 10-seat margin gave the Freedom Caucus the clout it needed to do
00:09:52.280 the right thing.
00:09:53.660 Don't you think?
00:09:56.860 I just listened to all that looking for a disagreement.
00:10:01.100 There's none.
00:10:01.640 And first to your last point, absolutely right, Lou.
00:10:06.760 And not a lot of people have seen this.
00:10:10.460 I was, when people were talking about that perceived red wave coming, I warned Republicans,
00:10:19.540 I warned conservatives, be careful what you wish for.
00:10:23.160 Because if you're looking at a wave, what's going to happen for there to be a wave is that
00:10:29.820 Republicans are going to have to win in liberal districts.
00:10:33.620 And that means there's going to be liberal Republicans who are going to be winning.
00:10:37.940 They are our enemy.
00:10:39.720 They are the ones who can destroy anything before it ever sees the light of day.
00:10:44.800 So be careful about that red wave.
00:10:46.740 I said it very publicly that I preferred a five-vote margin than to a 20-vote margin as
00:10:54.380 a conservative.
00:10:55.220 I thought it would work better.
00:10:56.480 So that points to exactly what you're saying.
00:11:00.160 Now, the first part of what you said, I agree completely.
00:11:02.480 I would add one thing.
00:11:04.660 Those 400 members don't care about everything you said.
00:11:10.540 They are there for one reason and one reason only.
00:11:14.720 Oh, they come filled with fire and brimstone.
00:11:18.080 And they are ready to change the world.
00:11:20.800 As soon as they arrive here in this godforsaken city of Washington, D.C., as soon as they arrive,
00:11:27.680 they are taken by leadership, and they are told, here's how it works.
00:11:32.780 You vote for leadership.
00:11:34.240 You shut up.
00:11:35.660 You do what you're told, and you will advance.
00:11:39.540 And as you advance, you will have greater and greater, say, i.e., more and more control
00:11:46.320 in the federal government, more and more control over money.
00:11:50.320 And oh, by the way, you're going to become more important, and they're all going to be
00:11:54.500 coming to you, the special interests, the chamber of commerce.
00:11:57.100 They're all, look, think about this.
00:11:59.640 Think about this, folks.
00:12:01.040 When somebody raises you a million dollars, they want something in return.
00:12:07.080 When a defense contractor comes up with a $500,000 bundled contribution, it wants something
00:12:15.360 in return.
00:12:16.740 There's nothing.
00:12:18.140 There's no such thing as an empty commitment that everybody wants something in return.
00:12:24.580 So when you've got – I remember, Lou, when I first cut my teeth in this business in
00:12:29.120 1980, we could do congressional campaigns for $50,000, an entire campaign.
00:12:35.260 And now you've got congressional campaigns that are $50,000, $20 million.
00:12:40.120 That's how big they have become.
00:12:42.360 These people care about only one thing, their re-election.
00:12:45.540 So look at the complaint.
00:12:47.820 Just how upset are Republicans when they are given legislation by Democrats where they're
00:12:53.900 given no time to read it?
00:12:55.600 Answer, very.
00:12:57.060 How upset are Republicans when their own leadership does the exact same thing to them?
00:13:03.440 Suddenly, they're quiet as church mice.
00:13:05.360 Why?
00:13:05.860 Because that's the rule.
00:13:07.200 You've got to go along with this and do not raise your head.
00:13:09.840 What is happening in this town, though, is that these 20 have upset the apple cart.
00:13:17.900 In that apple cart – remember, I don't know if you recall this, but about four election
00:13:22.800 cycles ago, the head of the Chamber of Commerce, which used to be the bedrock of conservatism,
00:13:30.760 that used to be ground zero in working and helping conservatives, the head of the Chamber
00:13:38.380 of Commerce threatened conservatives if they opposed – I forget, some Obama legislation.
00:13:46.920 If they opposed it, he was going to take them out in primaries, and he took out Congressman
00:13:52.820 Tim Heelkamp from Illinois, took him out in a primary with a very, very vicious, dishonest
00:14:01.300 attack, accusing the guy of being pro-abortion when he was strongly pro-life.
00:14:06.100 Did that to him, sending a message to conservatives, don't tip the apple cart.
00:14:11.040 We like it just as it is.
00:14:13.300 They were opposed to Obamacare once it passed.
00:14:15.760 They had no problem with it because they got to work within the system.
00:14:19.400 This is how it works in government today.
00:14:21.580 So these 20 stood up, and they said, enough of this.
00:14:25.100 We're going to have a debate on issues.
00:14:27.800 We're going to pass laws one by law, one, instead of appropriating everything.
00:14:33.040 There's going to be a seat at the table for conservatives for once and for all.
00:14:37.260 They tipped over that apple cart, and they won, and my God, they exceeded everybody's
00:14:42.940 expectations because their message was very clear to McCarthy and this cabal of these liberals
00:14:50.160 running the House.
00:14:52.700 We are sticking to our principles.
00:14:55.020 You want to stab us in the back.
00:14:57.000 You're not going to do it, and we're going to cost you the speakership unless you shape
00:15:01.640 up.
00:15:02.580 And they blinked.
00:15:03.280 And I think you'll agree with me that Profiles in Courage has to add, to be current, a chapter
00:15:11.820 and reserved for Congressman Andy Biggs of Arizona.
00:15:16.380 Here is a man who is quiet.
00:15:18.900 He is unpretentious in any fashion.
00:15:22.180 He is bright.
00:15:24.040 He stood fast.
00:15:26.460 He led the charge for the Freedom Caucus members and a couple of others who were not currently
00:15:32.860 for Freedom Caucus.
00:15:34.420 But he really, this was his decision.
00:15:38.460 It took great courage on his part to stand first and challenge Kevin McCarthy for the
00:15:44.140 speakership when no one else would.
00:15:46.120 And he brought with him a core of six, arguably seven other members that then became 21.
00:15:56.980 And they held the line as I never expected them to.
00:16:02.320 I thought perhaps four, maybe five would.
00:16:06.160 But for those 21 to stand up together, that's when I believe Kevin McCarthy, they had his attention.
00:16:13.520 Yeah, I know Andy Gibbs pretty well.
00:16:20.140 And I can tell you that this, his passion went far beyond Kevin McCarthy.
00:16:29.700 It was the institution about which he was concerned.
00:16:33.060 And I know this because I had a conversation with him two years ago, three years ago, about
00:16:41.660 this, long, long before this came up, about the fact that you have this corruption where
00:16:48.520 in both the House and even more so in the Senate, look at the Senate, you've got this
00:16:54.240 old, old man who is running the Senate.
00:17:00.120 Now it's the longest serving majority or leader of the Republican Party in the Senate in history.
00:17:06.900 This guy is nothing but a failure, except Mitch McConnell is a brilliant politician, brilliant
00:17:15.040 and ruthless and knows how to run that Senate.
00:17:19.220 And Andy Gibbs and I had conversations about this, about how if you're elected to Congress,
00:17:24.060 you're stuck.
00:17:24.880 There's nothing you can do about it.
00:17:26.580 Because if you were to stand up and vote against him, that's the end of your career.
00:17:32.260 And people didn't want to do that.
00:17:34.300 And he stuck his neck out this time and he said, I'm going to be the first.
00:17:39.220 And enough people joined him.
00:17:41.240 Now, I will guarantee you that there are a whole lot of people that are like, you know,
00:17:48.500 the, I hate to be, I want to be politically incorrect, like the Italian general that says,
00:17:55.400 charge, I'll be right behind you.
00:17:57.160 There are going to be a lot of people who are patting these 20 on the back and saying,
00:18:00.980 I was with you.
00:18:01.900 Yes, I was with you.
00:18:03.300 But, you know, I had to vote for Kevin because of X, Y, Z reason.
00:18:06.000 That's OK.
00:18:06.640 Your career may be ruined.
00:18:07.900 But my God, I was with you.
00:18:09.220 Way to go.
00:18:09.960 There's going to be a lot of that going on.
00:18:11.320 There always is.
00:18:12.020 But at the end of the day, those 20 deserve national applause.
00:18:18.080 And I agree with you.
00:18:19.580 And he's really one of the good guys.
00:18:22.540 And I'm going to, I just, I just really respect so much those congressmen who did stand up
00:18:31.240 and who did so in the interest of the institution, their party, and the American people.
00:18:37.220 I believe that, I think we will be saying at some point that this was also a boon to Kevin McCarthy
00:18:46.900 because with the reforms that they have now instituted as a result of their hard bargaining
00:18:53.780 with McCarthy, they are giving him the potential as well as the platform to be one of the most
00:19:00.440 successful speakers of the House in memory.
00:19:04.980 It really is that, I think, a terrific opportunity.
00:19:10.400 Certainly, without question, Newt Gingrich was a revolutionary in his time.
00:19:17.240 And now he is a member of the establishment.
00:19:20.020 He was amongst those decrying the loudest of the Freedom Caucus valiance who were standing
00:19:28.060 against the status quo.
00:19:30.300 So it's an interesting evolution for him and one for the country, because I really believe
00:19:37.220 this means that they can really succeed as a legislative body, something that hasn't been
00:19:42.020 possible since 1994.
00:19:46.560 Lou, I was disappointed also with Newt.
00:19:51.140 And I don't understand it in this sense.
00:19:55.060 Newt is not a young politician trying to make a name for himself.
00:19:58.600 He's almost 80 years old, and he's doing a swan song.
00:20:02.140 Now, why do I know it's a swan song?
00:20:04.100 Because he told me he and I had had several meetings about what ought to be the Republican
00:20:13.000 agenda, not just short.
00:20:16.480 He was looking short term.
00:20:17.600 And I was looking long term, or what should be the conservative agenda, better put.
00:20:21.960 His focus was on the elections.
00:20:25.000 And he wanted to do one more contract.
00:20:29.200 And he wanted to work with Kevin McCarthy to get one more contract done.
00:20:35.740 OK, so the commitment with America came out.
00:20:40.240 Lou, that's the biggest pile of hooey I've ever heard in my life. 0.99
00:20:44.840 You know, 43 items.
00:20:47.700 Can you name me three?
00:20:49.180 I mean, this was such a waste of paper.
00:20:53.760 And when it came out, I mean, it's just the same old, same old talking points.
00:21:00.500 We believe in securing the border.
00:21:04.240 We believe in cutting deficits.
00:21:07.620 You know, OK, I've heard this.
00:21:09.980 You just don't do it.
00:21:11.060 This is the only problem.
00:21:12.500 But I read this thing and I denounced it and said it was going to be a one day story.
00:21:18.940 Newt was not happy with me, but it was a one day story.
00:21:21.440 It was a one and done.
00:21:22.620 Nobody took it seriously.
00:21:24.080 What did Newt come up with?
00:21:25.500 Newt came up with 10 issues, very specific, with pieces of legislation attached to them.
00:21:33.100 And he said he would do them in 100 days.
00:21:35.380 I mean, it was a contract that he came up with.
00:21:38.280 Now, you can disagree, well, did he do it all?
00:21:41.740 But it was about the best thing we've ever seen insofar as Republicans making commitments to the American people.
00:21:53.000 This commitment to America was nothing.
00:21:55.640 I want to read you something, Lou.
00:21:57.600 This was written by Russ Vogt, who is the head of Citizens for Renewing America.
00:22:03.500 People have done their analysis of what this vote was about.
00:22:08.740 Here is his analysis.
00:22:10.340 Then I'm going to write a comment about this.
00:22:12.660 He said it levels a body blow against the D.C. political cartel that colludes against the American people.
00:22:21.080 Quote, namely, it gives House conservatives the procedural power through the all-important rules committee to control the consideration of all major bills and amendments, independence from leadership not seen in nearly 60 years.
00:22:39.600 It creates a modern-day church-style committee with full authority and resources to hold the weaponized national security state accountable.
00:22:52.120 It commits the House to balance the budget in 10 years with substantial cuts to woke and weaponized government and dictates the terms for the upcoming fight on the debt limit.
00:23:04.900 And it enforces all of these commitments by allowing one member to force a vote on removing the speaker.
00:23:12.540 Now, think about this for a second.
00:23:15.480 In every campaign speech that any Republican has made, they've made these promises.
00:23:20.760 Suddenly, this was a bone of contention.
00:23:23.820 Suddenly, the idea of having a vote on a balanced budget, oh, we can't do that.
00:23:29.340 Suddenly, getting a commitment to say we're going to do something on the border, suddenly that was a bridge too far.
00:23:36.280 So these concessions that are so beautifully outlined in that statement were all things that ought not to have been concessions.
00:23:46.980 They ought to have been the clarion call of the Republican Party and Kevin McCarthy on the day that he was nominated.
00:23:54.720 It ought to have been his position.
00:23:56.260 This goes to show the utter cynicism of the Republican Party.
00:24:01.280 Yeah, the cynicism, the fraudulence of the projected agenda of the Republican Party.
00:24:11.860 And it goes back to your earlier point, talking about what would have happened had there been a red wave, a red tsunami.
00:24:18.920 They all acted and behaved as if, and hubris is a treacherous thing, as if that red wave were reality. 0.92
00:24:29.340 And they did not have to pay mind to either the voters or to, in point of fact, their colleagues in the Congress or their own, quote unquote, commitment to America.
00:24:40.640 And the result is fitting.
00:24:43.480 This is true justice that this group of people who were dismissed by the leadership of the Republican Party, dismissed by the leadership of Congress and certainly the Senate, prevailed.
00:24:58.880 And with their victory comes rehabilitation, reform, and I think great rewards for the Republican Party, despite themselves, with a question.
00:25:12.740 It commits the House, I want to repeat this, because it commits the House to balance the budget in 10 years with substantial cuts to woke and weaponized government.
00:25:26.400 Don't they talk about this in every single one of their speeches?
00:25:31.460 Suddenly they had to make a commitment.
00:25:33.840 Where was the commitment before this gang of 20?
00:25:36.780 Guess what?
00:25:37.300 It wasn't there.
00:25:38.480 It dictates a turn for the upcoming fight on the debt limit.
00:25:44.380 In other words, a real fight this time instead of nothing but rhetoric.
00:25:49.360 And that's all we've got.
00:25:50.640 And this happens.
00:25:51.840 Look, it's so terrible to say this.
00:25:54.440 This goes back to the end of life.
00:25:57.240 Actually, the last person to fight on this was Newt Gingrich in 1993, 1994.
00:26:05.120 And then it ended.
00:26:06.760 At that point, it ended.
00:26:07.960 You know, think about, Lou, we are a two-branch federal government, the executive and the judiciary.
00:26:16.940 The legislative is irrelevant.
00:26:19.880 It's the administration that makes policy via regulation.
00:26:25.180 It is the judiciary that either, depending on which way it's laying, says there's been overreach or it overreaches itself on legal matters.
00:26:36.460 But the House and the Senate have played no role in legislation in America.
00:26:43.620 There isn't a budget.
00:26:46.160 I mean, they don't vote on anything anymore.
00:26:48.560 And where's the complaints from these people?
00:26:51.200 They don't complain about this because they're very comfortable doing this.
00:26:55.280 Look, there is another element at work here, and I think we have to give it some note as well.
00:27:01.680 Many of these legislators, whether they be in the Senate, and there are many in the Senate, and the House of Representatives, who are outright lazy.
00:27:13.580 They are there for ceremonial purposes.
00:27:16.340 They are there to lay a foundation that, yes, I did show up a couple of times, and I served in the U.S. Congress for three or four terms, and now I'm prepared to go to the Senate or to the governorship, et cetera, et cetera.
00:27:27.620 They are lazy, as well as being, you know, their indolence, I think, often is only outweighed by their arrogance and indifference.
00:27:36.960 And this is a different group of people.
00:27:40.940 These 20 who stood up are showing the rest of the conference, who, frankly, their jaws were slack.
00:27:51.540 Suddenly they were mouth breathers as they witnessed what courage looks like and a real commitment to the Constitution, to the Republic, and the American people.
00:28:01.960 And I know that sounds like a platitude, but that's exactly what they did.
00:28:05.720 Well, let's look at this one here for a second.
00:28:12.200 What's the work week of a member of Congress?
00:28:15.320 They arrive Monday afternoon, and they cast a vote Monday evening so that they can say we were here on Monday.
00:28:23.860 Then they work Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, and then they leave.
00:28:28.680 Congress works three days a week when they're in session.
00:28:32.220 When they're in session, they don't work at all, and they make $200,000 a year.
00:28:39.140 And then that's just the starter.
00:28:41.500 That's just the starter.
00:28:42.780 When you – I remember, Lou, when I first got in this business in 1980, my boss pointed out – we went after five liberal Democrat senators.
00:28:54.900 We defeated four of them, and he said to me before the election, watch what happens.
00:29:00.580 Watch where they go when we beat them.
00:29:04.220 And sure enough, making this point, not a one of them returned to his home state.
00:29:09.500 They all stayed in Washington and became lobbyists and millionaires.
00:29:14.080 And that was the Democrats.
00:29:15.320 Guess what?
00:29:15.680 It's the Republicans, too.
00:29:16.780 Well, you're here as long as you want to, and the day you leave, you become a multi – why is it that there's no pauper who leaves Congress? 0.84
00:29:26.660 Why is it that everybody leaves a multimillionaire?
00:29:29.960 It's amazing.
00:29:30.760 Because you work the system.
00:29:32.680 It's amazing how much money a congressman or a senator can save on $170,000 a year.
00:29:40.720 It's up to tens of millions.
00:29:42.860 Joe – how about Joe's six-pack Biden?
00:29:46.760 Look where he is.
00:29:48.480 Look at Obama.
00:29:51.060 Look at Clinton.
00:29:52.080 All of them.
00:29:52.960 All of them cashed in in a very big way.
00:29:57.760 This is the Congress that we have today.
00:30:01.020 It is as corrupt as – whatever happened, Lou, to the phrase civil servant?
00:30:07.500 Whatever – on either side of that equation, these – you know, you think –
00:30:14.320 They're neither –
00:30:14.880 They're neither civil nor servants.
00:30:19.220 Yes, that's what I'm saying.
00:30:21.960 The – David Crockett was working his farm.
00:30:26.260 He went to Congress for two terms, not because he wanted to, but because he had to as a civic duty.
00:30:32.700 He couldn't wait to leave, to leave to go to the Alamos.
00:30:35.540 Now, my guess is at the very end of the day, he didn't know which one was worse, but that's the way – that's the mentality that you had.
00:30:42.740 You went to Congress because you were sacrificing on behalf of the American people.
00:30:47.640 You did a couple terms, and then you went home.
00:30:50.280 But the idea of these members of Congress being here, they're 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years.
00:30:55.900 I mean, it's mind-boggling that they're there that long.
00:30:59.720 That's a complete abuse of what the founders wanted, and they know it.
00:31:05.060 And their attitude is, well, you know, you can't – if that's what the people in my district want, you can't say they can't have that.
00:31:11.400 What they don't tell you is they've rigged it so much through all the perks they get, all the advantages they get,
00:31:17.940 all the ways they can add ornaments to the Christmas tree to get that part in their district,
00:31:25.560 to get that civic swimming pool, to get this, that, and the other, all the little goodies they give themselves
00:31:31.020 that give them all the advantages that they need to win re-election.
00:31:36.120 They don't tell you about that.
00:31:37.280 Robert Byrd, go to West Virginia.
00:31:39.060 There's not a thing that is not named after Robert Byrd.
00:31:41.940 I was on the – my wife and I were on the Joe Biden Expressway in Scranton-Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, the other day,
00:32:00.160 taking one of the grandkids home.
00:32:03.860 And, you know, I thought, man, two terms in office and he's got an expressway.
00:32:08.880 And now it turns out it looks like he's going to have expressways named after him in Ukraine, Russia, China, Mexico.
00:32:18.160 And there's a U.S. attorney in Delaware right now who's going to have to do some explaining
00:32:23.900 about what takes five years to investigate Joe Biden's son, Hunter.
00:32:29.640 We are on the precipice, and we've referred to this, but not by name.
00:32:33.380 This is going to be a subcommittee on investigation of ongoing criminal investigations,
00:32:41.300 no matter whether they be from the FBI, Department of Justice,
00:32:44.780 or even reaching into the intelligence agencies and their operations on foreign soil.
00:32:51.120 This subcommittee that will be chaired by Congressman Jim Jordan,
00:32:55.000 who will also be the chair of the Judiciary Committee,
00:32:57.460 this is a potential historic pivot for the idea of being a gangbuster and blowing up corruption.
00:33:12.260 And I want to get to this point.
00:33:13.780 You said that it was a two-branch government.
00:33:16.220 And I maintain, Brent, it's about time we disagreed about something.
00:33:20.680 I truly believe there's only one branch right now, and that is the presidency.
00:33:25.000 When's the last time you heard anyone talk about the imperial presidency,
00:33:29.280 the awesome power of the executive branch?
00:33:32.820 I don't hear it at all.
00:33:35.740 Congress and the Senate have fast-tracked themselves into irrelevance
00:33:40.200 and simply being rubber stamps for whatever they're told will be the agenda.
00:33:45.020 And at the same time, they don't dare interfere through oversight over the executive branch agencies.
00:33:52.140 It is disgusting, and the judiciary is now simply an accessory to the crimes against the Constitution.
00:34:03.160 Your thoughts?
00:34:03.720 Well, I think you're making a valid point,
00:34:07.660 because I think if the judiciary were constructionist,
00:34:12.900 it would just say no to everything in Washington, D.C.
00:34:18.260 as an overreach of government, because virtually everything is an overreach of government.
00:34:25.260 And, oh, by the way, if we're going to have wars, let's declare them.
00:34:28.560 That's one of the silly little things that Congress ought to be insisting on.
00:34:33.440 But let's disagree on something else.
00:34:36.700 You mentioned these hearings.
00:34:38.180 I'm very much a doubting Thomas on it.
00:34:40.400 Why?
00:34:40.920 Because hearings haven't amounted to diddly squat with Republicans running them.
00:34:47.580 During the Obama years, when the Republicans held control of the House,
00:34:53.340 how many hearings did we have on Benghazi?
00:34:57.300 Do you know, Lou, that at the end of it today, I actually sympathized with Hillary Clinton.
00:35:04.600 I'm making the sign of the cross right now.
00:35:06.240 I sympathized with her when she made the statement, when she said in a very tired voice,
00:35:14.200 this is the 17th hearing I've attended.
00:35:17.660 When is this going to end?
00:35:19.860 And do you know, she was right, because these were all hearings amounting to nothing.
00:35:26.540 The Republicans had all the weapons to do the investigations.
00:35:30.160 And yet every hearing seemed to happen after a FOIA from Judicial Watch that uncovered something where they had no choice.
00:35:40.820 And what would happen?
00:35:42.120 Trey Gowdy would give a wonderful speech.
00:35:46.140 Jim Jordan was a surgeon on the stand, just mowing down the opposition.
00:35:54.240 And then everybody else would give flowery speeches amounting to nothing.
00:35:59.940 The hearing would go on for a couple of days.
00:36:02.440 It would end, and that would be the end until the next judicial watch.
00:36:06.220 What did we learn about Lois Lerner?
00:36:08.600 Lois Lerner got a promotion after what she did with the IRS. 0.99
00:36:12.320 She got a promotion after using the most weird arm of government against the American people
00:36:18.540 with anybody who would object to the imperialism of Barack Obama.
00:36:24.160 She got away with it.
00:36:25.820 Hillary Clinton got away with bleaching her computers. 1.00
00:36:29.600 Rosemary Woods, how many people can go back to the Nixon years and remember Rosemary Woods,
00:36:36.860 who quote-unquote accidentally erased 18 and a half minutes of one tape,
00:36:42.160 and that became the smoking gun with which they were going to remove Richard Nixon from office.
00:36:47.760 And now you've got Hillary Clinton bleaching computers. 1.00
00:36:51.740 You've got Lois Lerner smashing computers at the IRS, and they all got away with it.
00:36:58.240 This was with the Republican hearings.
00:37:00.460 So when I see a Republican hearing, what is a series – can you name me a single one of the alphabet soup
00:37:09.280 of offenses from the Clinton administration where the Clintons were ever held to account for what they did?
00:37:15.920 When they say – when people say that they believe they're above the law, they do.
00:37:20.380 Why do you think that guy – why do you think James Comey had smirks on their face when they test –
00:37:26.960 they had smirks on their face when they were testifying because they knew they were going to be –
00:37:32.340 weren't going to be held to account.
00:37:33.980 So maybe, maybe there's going to be a new attitude in that.
00:37:38.040 I hope there is.
00:37:39.900 But if past is prologue, no, there won't be.
00:37:44.440 Yeah.
00:37:45.120 I think that your skepticism is certainly not cynicism.
00:37:49.920 It is skepticism.
00:37:51.600 It's critical judgment.
00:37:53.160 And you have all of the evidence, more than enough evidence to support your case.
00:37:59.120 And when I said the subcommittee, I was limiting it to that subcommittee.
00:38:04.040 I think it has the potential to do great things.
00:38:06.960 I really do.
00:38:08.460 Because we already know that there are whistleblowers.
00:38:12.240 We already know that there is evidence and that there are Republicans who are aware of classified documents
00:38:18.020 who now will have the courage to put that before the American people because they will be protected through the committee.
00:38:24.160 As to the others, firing 87,000 IR agents, I don't think so.
00:38:30.640 They're not going to be able to do it because they don't – first of all, the budget is baked until the end of September, September 30th of this year.
00:38:39.680 All of these ideas about the budget and what they're going to do will come to pass in the subsequent year.
00:38:45.820 But they basically have lost the first year of governance because of that – Kevin McCarthy agreed to that omnibus bill.
00:38:54.160 And to your point about Hillary Clinton and the Benghazi committee, personnel is still policy in Washington, D.C., as it is in business itself, in any organization.
00:39:09.380 But when you have Trey Gowdy – now think about what this man did.
00:39:13.820 He had that committee.
00:39:16.240 He got all the television time in the world and did absolutely nothing.
00:39:21.060 He had the power to do something, and he chose not to.
00:39:26.740 Paul Ryan, the worst Speaker of the House, who knew that the Steele dossier was a fake for six months before he told the investigators of the Intelligence Committee.
00:39:39.820 These are the people that were involved.
00:39:41.320 Trey Gowdy, by the way, you remember famously not only made a fool of himself as the chair of that committee,
00:39:47.520 but then he went to see the documents and said of the FBI, you'll be pleased to know they're doing the right thing, and there is no problem here.
00:39:57.740 That is why they were carrying out a frame-up of the President of the United States and just driving a hoax, as President Trump then called it, of the Russia collusion.
00:40:09.960 We are now in the seventh year of the political persecution of a President of the United States.
00:40:17.160 And Trey Gowdy's final words on the matter were, you'll be proud of the FBI.
00:40:24.200 So those are the sinuating instances.
00:40:26.800 Yeah, Lou, I think that if they do a serious investigation, I've got a hunch we're going to learn that the Hunter Biden story goes even deeper than everybody's speculating.
00:40:43.640 Now, anyway, the idea that they would feel so emboldened as to have the son of the Vice President of the United States travel on Air Force Two with his father to foreign governments and cut deals with them while his father was negotiating with them,
00:41:07.860 that they would know that this was so terribly wrong and unethical to do and illegal to do, yet they felt they could get away with it when he's sending emails about getting 10% for the big guy.
00:41:26.700 My guess is that if we get to the bottom of this, we're going to find a level of corruption that is going to boggle the mind.
00:41:37.460 And, oh, by the way, whatever happened to investigating the Clintons for doing the exact same thing when they were having their speeches and they were making their deals, whatever happened to that investigation,
00:41:54.920 I think that if you could ever, ever get to the bottom of this, I think we might find – and that's the only way you're ever going to do this is you've got to lance this, boil, and push out the bus.
00:42:06.960 And it's going to be dirty, it's going to be ugly, and it's going to be painful.
00:42:11.800 But that's the only way you're going to save this country.
00:42:14.540 And it's shaping up to be the Church Committee, too, that subcommittee that I was referring to.
00:42:21.440 It is going to be that thorough, it is going to be that painful, and it's going to be that revelatory of crimes against the nation.
00:42:29.880 And I agree with you about the Clintons.
00:42:33.180 Think, my Lord, the Clinton Foundation was a criminal enterprise.
00:42:38.460 It is that straightforward.
00:42:40.980 And no one will even whisper it.
00:42:43.480 And here's your – I mean, to this day, I find this amazing.
00:42:55.840 Pay to play – well, let's put it this way.
00:42:58.440 The day Hillary Clinton lost her campaign was the day that all contributions to the Clinton Foundation ended from foreign governments.
00:43:14.180 That was the last day.
00:43:16.220 No more – within one month, the entire thing was shut down.
00:43:21.800 If that isn't evidence of pay to play, what it is, is it possible for me to conjure up a better example of pay to play than what they were doing?
00:43:31.940 And they got away with it.
00:43:33.840 Millions and millions of dollars from foreign governments going into their foundation.
00:43:38.500 And, you know, one of the few mistakes, I believe, that President Trump made while he was in office was choosing to do what he thought was the gracious and respectful thing, which is not prosecute Hillary Clinton.
00:43:53.780 He – and think what has happened to him.
00:43:56.560 The payback from the Marxist dims, the deep state.
00:43:59.940 They have tried to destroy that man from before he won the presidency.
00:44:04.620 See, they thought they could stop him.
00:44:06.440 Then they found that they would have to overthrow him.
00:44:08.960 And now they want to absolutely destroy any chance of his running again in 2024.
00:44:16.180 It's a remarkable period of history, and we're very fortunate to be, I believe – well, I better say it this way – to have the opportunity now to fix much of it.
00:44:29.920 We can never recover it, but we can fix it.
00:44:33.300 I'm sorry.
00:44:34.000 Go ahead, Brent.
00:44:34.620 Now, George Bush, 43, made the same mistake that Trump made.
00:44:43.580 If you recall – no, no, no, this would have been Bush 41.
00:44:48.600 I'm sorry.
00:44:50.040 The Anita Hill, Clarence Thomas story was meant to completely humiliate him in his presidential re-election campaign.
00:45:02.040 That Anita Hill story was based on a leak of seven – it was – I remember this.
00:45:10.180 It was Senate Rule 29, where you're leaking confidential information from a Senate intelligence committee.
00:45:18.120 And it was leaked publicly.
00:45:20.000 The Anita Hill thing came out, and it was broken.
00:45:23.140 And it turned out the FBI investigated it, and they narrowed it down to Senator Howard Metzenbaum's office that had done that.
00:45:30.480 Regardless, when the campaign was over, Bush 41 should have called for a prosecution on this.
00:45:40.240 And he announced, no, we're going to turn over a new leave and let bygones be bygones.
00:45:46.100 He should never have done that because all that did was to embolden the Clinton machine to do what they did.
00:45:52.400 And this is what the white Democrats feel, that they really are immune from it because Republicans never hold into account because Republicans tend just – it tends to be a lot more gracious than Democrats.
00:46:04.760 And I know – I love it when I see Republicans say, well, we're not going to do the terrible things Democrats did because we're nice people.
00:46:13.820 OK, be a nice person.
00:46:15.300 But in this country, in this city, it's a knife fight, and you're being a nice person, and then you wonder, when you have a knife in your jugular, how it got there.
00:46:25.220 Exactly.
00:46:25.980 And this is a war.
00:46:27.580 There is no doubt about it.
00:46:29.100 This is an existential moment in our history.
00:46:32.440 The Democrat Party, as we once knew it, is now the party of the Marxist Dems.
00:46:37.760 They mean to destroy every institution, every societal organization, and fundamentally the American family, in order to create a new America. 0.98
00:46:50.820 And that is in no way hyperbole.
00:46:53.320 It is, if anything, understatement.
00:46:55.460 And the Republican Party is only coming to terms with it.
00:46:59.300 Certainly conservatives understand it.
00:47:01.880 Certainly a narrow few understand the stakes that are involved.
00:47:06.760 And, again, I want to say here, thanks again to the Freedom Caucus, to Congressman Andy Biggs, and all of his band of reformers for what they've given this country an opportunity to do, which is, first, for the republic to survive and to succeed.
00:47:23.640 Brent Bozell, we always, always give our guests the last word.
00:47:28.800 And if I may, your concluding thoughts, and we appreciate you being with us today.
00:47:33.940 Let me conclude with following up on what you said a minute ago.
00:47:43.100 I never thought I would say this.
00:47:46.560 George McGovern was the most left-wing senator in America when he ran for president in 1972, was finally defeated in 1980.
00:47:56.940 Palled around with Fidel Castro, supported every left-wing piece of legislation, et cetera, et cetera.
00:48:05.200 I longed for the good old days of George McGovern.
00:48:08.720 Why?
00:48:09.360 Because on July 4th, he could stand next to Senator Jesse Helms, the most conservative member of the Senate, and they could both hold American flags and declare their allegiance to America.
00:48:20.880 I look at these pack of liberals, of these left-wingers.
00:48:25.300 The fundamental difference between them and the Democratic Party of 15 years ago is these are anti-Americans.
00:48:33.580 When you swear your allegiance to Black Lives Matter, you're the most political, powerful group in America today.
00:48:42.480 You're swearing your allegiance to an organization that is headed by self-proclaimed Marxists, who have nothing but disdain for Americanism, with a manifesto that calls for the destruction of the Judeo-Christian tradition.
00:48:59.500 You're standing with organizations that support CRT, with critical race theory.
00:49:06.880 It indoctrinates a whole generation of youngsters to believe their country is evil.
00:49:13.260 With the 1619 Project, it is an alternative to 1776 to the evil of that country. 0.97
00:49:20.780 That's where the Democratic Party is today.
00:49:23.460 That's the party of George Soros that dominates the Democratic Party today.
00:49:28.040 They're dangerous.
00:49:29.160 They're anti-American.
00:49:30.700 You know, it goes to the media as well.
00:49:32.980 You have been at this much longer than I have, but I long for the good old days of Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather compared to what we have today.
00:49:42.920 When you look at them, at least, you know, Tom Brokaw was biased, and Dan Rather was biased, and Peter Jennings, the late Peter Jennings, were biased.
00:49:49.420 But they weren't giving aid and comfort to anti-Americanism, which is what you're seeing in the media today.
00:49:56.720 So I long for the good old days of radical left-wingism.
00:49:59.720 Well, I wish I could say I long for the good old days of American conservatism, but I can't think of a golden era for conservatism.
00:50:11.940 But maybe we're on the verge, the dawning of the golden era of conservatism and a return to traditional American values.
00:50:21.180 Yeah, let's be optimistic.
00:50:21.960 And maybe we'll stop what some envision is another term of Barack Obama and make the fundamental transformation one that we bring along the Marxist left in this country to brighter and more enlightened horizons.
00:50:41.420 Brent Bozell, thanks so much for being with us.
00:50:43.400 Enjoyed talking with you.
00:50:44.680 Come back soon, and God bless you.
00:50:48.140 A tremendous pleasure.
00:50:49.380 Thank you so much.
00:50:50.080 Brent Bozell, a great American, head of the Media Research Center.
00:50:54.160 Their website is MRC.com.
00:50:57.120 That's MRC.com.
00:50:59.860 Our guest Monday will be the MAGA warrior himself, Steve Bannon, host of The War Room.
00:51:06.080 So please be with us right here on The Great America Show Monday.
00:51:09.940 Till then, thanks, and God bless you.
00:51:12.320 And God bless America.