The Great America Show - GEORGIA PROBES BOGUS BALLOTS; DEM MARXISTS RIP USA

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs,

00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.

00:00:09.240 And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.

00:00:14.540 Welcome to this edition of the Great America Show. Great to have you with us. And we have

00:00:18.960 for you much more on the election of 2020. Well, what did I say? The election of 2020?

00:00:26.040 I know we're not supposed to talk about that, talk about the integrity of our elections. That's not

00:00:33.940 done here in 2022. Or in the case of 2020, we shouldn't be talking about the lack of integrity.

00:00:43.000 Big tech and social media oligarchs, well, they're not happy when we talk about their censorship or

00:00:49.120 their ban of anyone who fails to follow the national left-wing narrative. 2020, they say,

00:00:56.620 is, well, it's over, done. And Joe Biden won. And both statements are actually true and not in

00:01:05.380 dispute as far as I'm concerned. But what is in dispute is how did Biden win and why have so many

00:01:14.320 agencies and courts and various jurisdictions refused to investigate what were clearly irregularities,

00:01:22.760 anomalies of various sorts and kinds, fraud, and simple outrages in the 2020 election?

00:01:31.220 Did any of those or all of those questionable events or occurrences result in enough of an impact

00:01:38.740 on the vote to change the outcome significantly? Sufficient to have put a man in the Oval Office

00:01:46.800 who didn't belong there? Now, that's an interesting question. I don't know the answer, but I do know

00:01:55.000 that lots of questions, including that one, have gone unanswered from 2020. Too many in authority have

00:02:03.620 refused to investigate that election despite the obvious, let's call them problems. And that is

00:02:10.800 simply the truth. But a new development in one of the contested states in the 2020 election

00:02:16.040 may yet give us insight and some answers and even possibly motivate a broader nationwide demand for truth

00:02:25.560 and honesty. Yes, and integrity in our electoral system. The Secretary of State of Georgia has now

00:02:34.060 called for an investigation of claims that illegal vote harvesting in the state may have altered the

00:02:40.660 outcome of Georgia's election. So reports a man who is always seeking the truth, John Solomon of Just

00:02:48.120 the News. And John, welcome to the Great America Show, and congratulations on what looks to be a great

00:02:55.900 story. How big a story is it? How big a development is it in your judgment?

00:03:00.680 Think about it. It was a year ago this month, Lou, that Brad Rausenberger, the Secretary of State,

00:03:05.560 went on 60 Minutes and said, I thought we had a fair and secure and safe election. And he has

00:03:10.500 maintained that line. But in recent weeks, he has become privy to information provided by a group

00:03:16.860 called True the Vote, run by a conservative woman named Catherine Engelbrecht, that points at a very

00:03:22.400 large potential illegal harvesting campaign. So people may not know what harvesting is. It is when

00:03:27.320 a third party goes and collects other people's ballots and then takes them to the ballot box and

00:03:31.580 drops them in. In most states, California being a rare exception, because California is so different,

00:03:36.720 most states make that unlawful. It's illegal to take another party's ballot and deliver it for them.

00:03:42.380 What Catherine Engelbrecht found when she went out and got millions of minutes of

00:03:46.420 videotape that covered these boxes, the surveillance cameras covering these boxes,

00:03:51.560 was that people were coming at between 12 o'clock in the morning and five in the morning,

00:03:55.220 an odd time for someone to be voting, and bringing large stacks of ballots. And I've seen some of this

00:03:59.980 video footage. And sometimes they have so many in their hand, they're dropping them on the ground,

00:04:03.880 they can't keep them all together. And then they're shoving, stuffing these absentee ballots into

00:04:08.860 the box. That's clearly what is known under the law to be harvesting. Now, Catherine went further.

00:04:13.900 She went and got the cell phone ping data, what we call it. It's called geospatial data for cell

00:04:19.680 phones. That showed these cell phones of these activists at the box at the very moment you see them

00:04:25.060 on the camera. So the FBI does this when they're putting together a terror case, or when they're

00:04:28.900 putting together a murder case. They'll go out and buy commercial data and show, you know, Joe Smith was

00:04:34.740 at the murder scene. His cell phone was right there when we say that that's the guy in the video you see

00:04:39.100 shooting the victim. Well, that's what she did. She went out and got this. And what she found were

00:04:43.620 there were 242 people who made a total of more than 5,000 trips to these drop boxes, these ballot

00:04:52.460 drop boxes in Georgia between the November election, and then the January runoff where the US Senate was

00:04:58.620 decided. That is a mass ballot harvesting scheme, according to her. And she went one step further.

00:05:04.380 And I think this is what got Rafsenberger so interested. They were able to secure testimony

00:05:09.520 and admission from one of the ballot harvesters. He sat with them and met with them for several

00:05:13.960 hours. And absolutely, I was paid by a bunch of nonprofits. I'd go around each night, collect

00:05:18.740 ballots from these nonprofit groups, and I'd walk them over to the ballot box, drop them in. We'd turn

00:05:23.200 around, take a picture of ourselves at the drop box so we could get paid. And I got paid $10 every time

00:05:28.600 for every ballot that I dropped into that box. The guy, I believe, made something like $45,000,

00:05:33.460 which means he harvested 4,500 ballots, nearly half of the difference between Joe Biden and Donald

00:05:41.420 Trump. That's just one of the 242 people who made 5,000 trips. So that data was given in the form of

00:05:47.980 a complaint to Brad Rafsenberger. And he came on my podcast today and said, this is serious stuff.

00:05:54.100 It's credible. I'm investigating it. And I may be issuing subpoenas in the next few days.

00:05:58.800 Well, it's a huge story. And I guess at this point, as we look at this, what is the potential

00:06:09.120 here for ballot harvesting? That is, how many ballots? And it sounds like it would dwarf the

00:06:17.460 margin that Trump lost by. And I'm talking about a margin of some 12,000 votes.

00:06:25.380 Right. This sounds like tens of thousands of votes.

00:06:30.600 That's what the complaint alleges. If you assume that each time a person came, they delivered

00:06:35.660 somewhere between 10 and 20 ballots, which is what the witness said he would deliver each night,

00:06:40.040 you'd have 50,000 to 60,000 ballots among those 5,000 plus trips that were made by those 242 alleged

00:06:47.540 ballot traffickers. And so it is of a scale that could have clearly impacted the election. And also,

00:06:52.920 Catherine's team at True the Vote only focused on five urban counties around Atlanta. It doesn't

00:06:58.800 even look at other parts of the state. And so this is of a scale and a size that could have been

00:07:04.200 impactful to the outcome of the election. I think that's one of the things that

00:07:07.540 Brad Rassenberger is cognizant of. The first thing is he's got to secure the data,

00:07:12.560 got to get the names, got to interview people and confirm this happened. Then the next step would

00:07:16.660 be prosecutions. You prosecute some of the people. Some of that's already going on in Arizona,

00:07:21.220 where Mark Brnovich, the attorney general, has indicted more than a half dozen people

00:07:25.540 for illegal ballot harvesting. And in the most recent court filings, there are suggestions that

00:07:30.820 Arizona believes this was a widespread thing, not just six people, maybe a more orchestrated thing.

00:07:35.940 And I'm being told, and I've now done some interviews, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, there's also

00:07:39.960 similar evidence. We could have four battleground states we're talking about involved in harvesting in

00:07:44.580 the next couple of months. Now, this is really stunning stuff. True the Vote is one of the most

00:07:51.840 outstanding voter integrity organizations, a non-profit in the country. I've worked with

00:07:58.700 them for, what, 20 years? Absolutely. And they have great credibility. There should be no issue here

00:08:07.160 whatsoever with their credibility. The question will be, how persuasive is it to judges and a jury,

00:08:15.900 I suppose? But this is, and Raffensperte, when did he get this information? And when did he make

00:08:23.300 his decision based on that information? Because they've been saying this for some time, have they

00:08:29.080 not? They have. And, you know, I think one of the mistakes, if I called that, you know, my reporting

00:08:33.300 indicates it's a mistake. Originally, Catherine and her group took this to Governor Kemp, and Governor

00:08:37.560 Kemp just kind of fumbled this, really wasn't that interested in it, didn't try to get a subpoena,

00:08:42.160 sent it to the GBI. GBI said, if you don't volunteer to us, we're moving on, we're not

00:08:45.980 interested. And, but just in the last few weeks, you know, late October into November, there were

00:08:51.520 meetings between Catherine Engelbrecht and Raffensperte staff, and a formal complaint was filed on November

00:08:57.180 30th. And within a couple of weeks, even with the holidays and everything else, Raffensperte said,

00:09:01.340 we're going full bore. This investigation has been ongoing, my reporting indicates, for a couple

00:09:05.720 of weeks now. So within a couple of weeks of the complaint, they were already going full bore. And

00:09:09.880 I think that's important. The idea that they may be at the subpoena level next tells you that they've

00:09:14.460 advanced the investigation beyond preliminary. Let me go back to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation,

00:09:19.920 which has a good reputation as an investigative agency. They're very good. Not, what was the reason

00:09:26.440 that they would not move forward with at least an investigation in this based on through the votes

00:09:31.320 complaint?

00:09:32.320 I think they wanted True the Vote to volunteer all the names and all the work that they had

00:09:37.960 done. And there are some legal issues when you're dealing with the compilation of cell phone records

00:09:42.400 of video footage. And I think True the Vote would have preferred to have a subpoena to turn this

00:09:47.820 information over so it was covered by a legal protection. And rather than resolve that, rather

00:09:52.600 than being curious or aggressive like GBI or Governor Kemp could have been, they kind of just said,

00:09:57.360 all right, you don't want to cooperate and turn this things over willy-nilly. We're moving on.

00:10:01.600 That, you know, that's fine between the dispute between two groups, but it doesn't serve the voters

00:10:06.240 of Georgia really well. These were serious allegations. Anyone who saw the video footage

00:10:10.380 can say, well, I see a person stuffing 20 ballots in the box. That's not right. I think the lack of

00:10:15.480 curiosity is 100. But you're right. GBI is a very respected news, a very respected law enforcement

00:10:20.520 organization, does great work. You've seen this with both the FBI and GBI. These political cases

00:10:26.160 involving elections, these law enforcement people are a little nervous to touch it. But the Secretary

00:10:31.160 of State is the right place for this investigation to occur. He's the enforcer of laws. And it's

00:10:36.160 important to remind people, because Rafsenberger got a bad rap with the Trump people after the

00:10:40.840 November election. But in 2019, Brad Rafsenberger went to the legislature and said, you know what,

00:10:45.560 I think Democrats are going to try to illegally harvest in the state. And our laws are a little

00:10:50.100 squishy. He got the legislature in 2019, ahead of the 2020 election, to outlaw more explicitly any form

00:10:57.840 of harvesting. And so he got a tougher law in place. Then Stacey Abrams went about and Mark Elias,

00:11:04.280 the other Democrats, they went about and said, we do want to do these drop boxes. And he said, okay,

00:11:08.340 if you could do the drop boxes, I want to guard against harvesting. So I want cameras on every box.

00:11:13.820 And so he forced the counties to put cameras on the boxes. But here's where he dropped the ball.

00:11:18.320 He didn't ever look at the footage. So the election passes, he never goes and does an audit

00:11:21.940 of the footage. What good is the video footage if you don't look at it? Thankfully, Catherine did

00:11:26.540 and delivered the sort of evidence that now warrants an investigation.

00:11:31.020 And Governor Kemp has, as the saying goes in Georgia, some splaining to do. Because of the

00:11:36.980 reticence of the GBI, everyone will be very curious about what was the governor's posture

00:11:43.540 with his agency that reports to him, the GBI I'm referring to.

00:11:50.600 Yeah, absolutely. Listen, I mean, again, maybe the governor is not the right place to go, right?

00:11:54.040 The governor does the political policy, law enforcement agencies are the right place. And

00:11:57.240 in election law, the Secretary of State is the right repository for a complaint like this. I think

00:12:02.080 at the end of the day, it landed at the right place and the right people are looking at it. Now,

00:12:05.980 let's hope they do the job thoroughly. Because the video footage I've seen,

00:12:09.500 some of the cell phone record data analysis I've seen is very strong. And by the way,

00:12:14.760 this cell phone data analysis is called geospatial location data. The FBI uses this a lot now to

00:12:20.240 solve national security cases. You can buy this data from third party brokers and assemble a pattern

00:12:26.280 of life for a defendant or a suspect. And they solve crimes and they stop terror attacks using this

00:12:31.360 data. It's very respected form of investigation. And Catherine's people did it pretty well. And we're

00:12:36.320 going to see how the Secretary of State does with it. Well, former President Trump was, it appears,

00:12:44.040 wrong about Raffensperger, but certainly on target with Governor Kemp. This is deeply disturbing that

00:12:54.000 he did not take great initiative. Yeah, a lack of curiosity, lack of political will. You know,

00:13:01.060 if someone says they're cheating in your state, you should want to go to the bottom. And if they get

00:13:04.720 some resistance, you don't stop at the first resistance. You keep digging. That's what we

00:13:08.480 need more of in Washington. And in these states, we need more courageous people.

00:13:12.620 Right. Well, Raffensperger seems to be a man who has been maligned and has taken on 0.64

00:13:19.240 the issue of voter integrity as Secretary of State. He should. And he should do it in an animated,

00:13:25.720 energized, highly energized fashion. And that at least this is happening. But my Lord,

00:13:31.700 we're talking about more than a year after the event, this is suppression of evildoers in the

00:13:41.540 state of Georgia. And we know that Kemp was the best we could say for him. He was lethargic

00:13:48.920 and indifferent to these claims. But it also makes it very clear that Stacey Abrams and Mark Elias,

00:13:57.560 two of the Democratic Party's best known operators and activists, they should have been on guard from

00:14:06.640 the moment that they even smelled their presence near those drop boxes.

00:14:11.880 Yeah, it's very important to remind people that Mark Elias sued Raffensperger in 2020,

00:14:16.640 trying to overturn the ban on harvesting. And I'm going to have a story in a day or so,

00:14:20.860 in the next 24 hours, following up on this Raffensperger thing. I'll give you a little insight to it.

00:14:24.680 But he wrote a memo or an article to voting activists in March 2020, so eight months before

00:14:30.580 the election, saying there are four ways we're going to win. And one of those four ways,

00:14:34.660 he called the four pillars, was he needed to get harvesting made legal in some of these

00:14:38.800 battleground states. So he sued in Arizona. He lost there. Of course, the Supreme Court recently

00:14:43.340 affirmed that loss. And then he sued in Georgia, and he did. Now the question is, did other people,

00:14:48.640 after Elias and others got turned down and said, you can't do harvesting,

00:14:52.800 did they put together an operation to work around the law? That's certainly what Catherine

00:14:57.400 Engelbert's evidence points toward. And we're going to probably get an answer from Brad Raffensperger

00:15:01.820 in the next few months, if not a few weeks.

00:15:04.340 Well, it's terrific reporting on your part. It is good that Raffensperger has done this. It's

00:15:12.180 better than good. It's outstanding. I lament that it's a year later. And I'm sure that,

00:15:18.480 true, the vote is upset as well. But good for them. But these non-profits that were circulating

00:15:25.840 this bounty for each vote by, if it's 50,000 to 60,000 votes, we're talking about it. This

00:15:31.240 wasn't a cheap operation. We're talking about a half a million, $600,000. That's just in those

00:15:36.180 five counties as it's claimed now. I mean, this is major stuff. These, do we have a list of these

00:15:45.120 non-profits that were involved in running that ballot harvesting operation?

00:15:50.320 We don't. That's one of the things that Raffensperger is subpoenaing from Engelbrecht's

00:15:56.320 group, and we'll get. But I haven't seen it. I don't know who they are. To get to the scope and

00:16:01.060 scale and cost, though, just take the one John Doe witness, the guy that's identified in the

00:16:04.860 complaint is John Doe. He said he got paid $10 a ballot, and he got paid a total between the general

00:16:11.360 election in November and the runoff in January, $45,000. Just one guy, $45,000 at $10 a ballot.

00:16:19.240 That means he delivered approximately 4,500 other people's ballots to these boxes. That is a huge

00:16:25.060 scale when you realize there are 242 more people like him. Yeah. And, you know, I'm, it sounds like

00:16:31.380 I may be very conservative in my estimate about the dollar scale of this thing.

00:16:38.040 It could be very expensive. You're right. It's stunning. So at this point, let's just do a little

00:16:45.340 what if here, if we could, John. What if they substantiate this? There is a case. This means

00:16:53.080 that the Democratic Party is going to have a lot of answering to do. And the reason I say that

00:16:59.360 is very straightforward. They obviously are the beneficiaries and therefore the number one

00:17:05.040 suspect, right? But secondly, we are seeing in all of these states and, you know, the half dozen

00:17:12.840 states across the country that have got irregularities, anomalies, apparent, you know, fraud or what could

00:17:21.760 be fraud. But no one investigated. None of the state investigative agencies did a thing and still

00:17:28.920 have it. The Federal Bureau of Investigation was sort of sticking its nose in the air saying,

00:17:35.980 but we can't be involved in partisan politics. Well, the Democrats count on that. They count on having

00:17:41.900 district attorneys who won't prosecute cheating. They won't investigate cheating. And they know it.

00:17:49.360 And we're looking at a party that has become a lawless, I mean, this is the hole in the wall

00:17:57.880 gang for crying out loud, the Democratic Party. We've got to get to the bottom of that and get it

00:18:03.620 fixed. And these non-profits have got to be investigated. Yeah, that's the next phase, right?

00:18:11.320 Yes, absolutely. If you find the ballot harvesters, then you got to go after the money sources that paid

00:18:15.920 for this and organize it. And so we're looking at a long running investigation that may not just involve

00:18:21.340 prosecution of the individuals, but could lead to IRS referrals, tax referrals, FBI referrals.

00:18:27.380 I think we're at the beginning of a very long game. And I've said this to some people very much like

00:18:31.760 you helped me do with Russia. You and Sean, when we unraveled Russia, it took two years to unravel 0.80

00:18:36.520 the Russia story. My guess is it's going to take us a good year to get to the bottom of just how

00:18:41.480 sophisticated this ballot harvesting operation may have been. You know what, John, you know, something

00:18:47.080 that just might help a little bit in accelerating that time. What's that? It would be really nice

00:18:51.940 if the FBI, on hearing the evidence that Raffensperger has presented to him, were to get

00:18:59.900 involved. Yep. But the Georgia Bureau of Investigation can get to this much faster than the FBI,

00:19:07.380 because the FBI, as you know, I have some significant feelings about this. The FBI seems

00:19:13.020 to be the place where truth has gone to die in too many cases. And there's been some truth

00:19:18.220 of that, absolutely, sadly. But if we could get the, you know, Raffensperger needs to hold a news

00:19:23.360 conference and announce his findings publicly and encourage other secretaries of state, other

00:19:29.280 governors and other state officials and other investigative agencies in those states. And I'm

00:19:34.420 talking about, obviously, Nevada and Wisconsin and Michigan and Arizona and Pennsylvania.

00:19:41.140 This could be very helpful, but it's time for people to understand. A lot of what happened

00:19:48.440 was crooked. And the only people who aren't recognizing are the agencies and the governments

00:19:55.620 of the power establishment in this country that refuse to acknowledge the voter concern that

00:20:03.340 is out there. And I'm not talking about just half of the folks out there voting for Trump.

00:20:08.720 We're talking about all good citizens in this country want that electoral system to be one of

00:20:15.740 integrity and security. And it obviously is not that. Yeah, you know, there's another thing going

00:20:21.960 on, Lou, and it's going to also happen this month and in Georgia. If you remember back in the summer,

00:20:26.520 I broke a story that there was this 29-page report that Brad Raffensperger got from Fulton County,

00:20:31.540 which is where Atlanta is. It's the largest voting metropolis. And it laid out the sort of things

00:20:36.340 that would make people's blood boil. Double scanning of ballots, people's voter IDs being

00:20:41.100 left out so you could see how they were voting and who they were. People saying they were there to

00:20:46.080 mess up Donald Trump's chances of winning. Just horrific bad conduct in the voting center at

00:20:51.760 Atlanta. And over the last six months, Brad Raffensperger has initiated a process to remove all of the

00:20:58.980 Fulton County election supervisors and to take Fulton County for the first time in Georgia history

00:21:04.280 into state receivership, meaning that the state government will run Fulton County's election in

00:21:09.840 2022 when the Congress is at stake and 2024 when the president's at stake. The final recommendation

00:21:15.180 to do that is due later this month. But that's another example. I started doing interviews. How long,

00:21:20.540 you know, was this just a 2020 thing? This had been going on since the 1990s and every governor,

00:21:25.880 Secretary of State kicked the ball down the road. Yeah. As a matter of fact, I worked in Georgia for

00:21:32.560 part of my career. That's right. And let me tell you, Fulton County is dirty as it gets politically. 0.98

00:21:40.420 And by the way, this isn't a slur on Georgia or anything else because every, almost every state

00:21:46.820 the union has, you know, whether it's Cook County, Illinois, whether it's Wayne County and Michigan,

00:21:51.820 you know, you know, you know, this, you know what this, we're talking about here and, and they have

00:21:57.680 decades of corruption to overcome, but that doesn't mean that we can just simply ignore the thought that

00:22:05.800 is, is just the news reports about the investigation in Georgia into ballot harvesting. The thought that if

00:22:15.740 that's goes across a number of States, we may have an illegitimate president sitting in the Oval Office

00:22:23.820 today, right now. And if that doesn't occur to everyone right now, there's something wrong where

00:22:30.400 they're thinking, whether you're Republican or Democrat, because that is not the way a constitutional

00:22:35.880 Republic, a democracy works. Yeah. You're so right. A hundred percent right.

00:22:41.860 Right. So I'm sorry. Go ahead, John. One of the things I, you know, it's been interesting to watch

00:22:47.880 as the stories unfold in the last few hours, how many people were nodding saying, well, I, you know,

00:22:53.740 I kind of knew that was going on. I knew that was going on. I'm like, well, you're in a position of

00:22:58.020 power. Why not find out if it was going on? I can't tell you the number of people talked to from

00:23:02.380 Georgia said, oh yeah, we kind of knew about it. Well, you know what, if one party is constantly

00:23:06.600 harvesting ballots, the liberals and the Republicans don't do it, the Republicans have put

00:23:11.580 themselves at an unfair advantage. That's not a system Americans want to see. One party has an

00:23:15.960 unfair advantage. This is going to, I think you're going to see five or six states have big

00:23:20.120 conversations about it. I think Wisconsin probably becomes a big issue in the next couple of weeks.

00:23:25.360 Arizona, it's starting to crest there. And I think Pennsylvania, but this didn't happen

00:23:30.200 overnight. This was years of building out a system that could potentially create harvesting.

00:23:34.360 There's a memo I mentioned to you that, you know, Mark Elias writes, I'm going to write about

00:23:37.900 tomorrow where they, they were pretty open about it. We want to do harvesting. Let's find a way to

00:23:42.500 make it happen. The Republicans and the Republican national committee, and a lot of those lawyers

00:23:47.620 that sit at the RNC getting paid lots of money, this was their job to police the system. And they

00:23:52.400 really let the Republican party down. If this gets validated, some of the blame has to lie at the RNC

00:23:58.500 where lazy lawyers did not go and challenge this stuff, even though the evidence was sitting out in

00:24:02.820 public. Yeah. Ronna McDaniel, the chair of the RNC, uh, uh, told me personally that she had the,

00:24:10.340 this election, uh, ready. The attorneys were dispersed and in position and ready to go.

00:24:17.580 Uh, their ground game was terrific to turn out the vote. Uh, and the next thing my phone is ringing,

00:24:23.900 uh, election night about from various Republican attorneys in Philadelphia, wherever it was across

00:24:30.260 the country who didn't know what the heck was going on. Yeah. They couldn't get through to,

00:24:35.400 uh, the chain of command that had been set up. Uh, they had, they were being told they couldn't,

00:24:41.120 uh, go into the accounting facilities, uh, denied access, even though they were official watchers of

00:24:48.460 the Republican party. Uh, and, and here, and now who is the, who is the chair of the Republican national

00:24:54.300 committee, it's Ronna McDaniel and I like her very much, but she, she's a wonderful person.

00:24:59.520 She failed. She failed utterly. And there should have been a replacement. And by the way, it was,

00:25:05.340 uh, Donald Trump's decision for her to be there. Uh, I think it was a terrible decision on the former

00:25:11.980 president's part. Uh, I've made that very clear, but the RNC has to be reorganized and re-energized

00:25:19.640 and led by people who know that it's 2022 and that everything that they do matters to the outcome.

00:25:27.940 Do you agree? I do. Listen, the Democrats have Mark Elias. They have Stacey Abrams. These,

00:25:32.880 whether you hate them or love them, you disagree with everything they say,

00:25:35.860 they're very aggressive, innovative, hard driving people. And the Republicans don't have an answer to

00:25:40.960 that. They're always on defense at best. In many days, they don't even have their defense.

00:25:45.160 You mentioned the moment in Atlanta where they found the ballots under there, you know,

00:25:49.020 the, the people were concerned about ballots and people were being kicked out of the, the,

00:25:52.820 the observers. There was no Republican lawyer there to go to court at 10 o'clock and stop that

00:25:57.880 at night. That was like basic one-on-one election, uh, protection. And you know, the guy who did it

00:26:03.260 right, Glenn Youngkin built an amazing system in Virginia for the 2021 election. The RNC should model

00:26:09.380 that and take it because he had the right people at every location. And there were really no questions

00:26:14.300 about Virginia and Republicans won. Well, uh, I've got to tell you, I have a feeling that the next

00:26:20.540 contest in Virginia will be a little different. The Democrats may revert to type, uh, is my guess

00:26:27.880 based on Youngkin's success. Absolutely. So, you know, this is great reporting, John, as always,

00:26:34.160 and I thank you for sharing your, your, your reporting with us. And we'll be following,

00:26:38.540 as I know, uh, our audience will, uh, just the news as it continues to, uh, to report on this

00:26:46.260 critically important issue. Uh, I'll just remind everybody of what Stalin said. Uh, he said,

00:26:51.660 he doesn't care who votes. He cares about who counts the votes. And that is a, uh, something

00:26:58.600 that powerful reminder. Uh, that's something everybody should keep in mind. Uh, I know, I know,

00:27:04.180 also that you've got, uh, you're aware that, uh, our friend, uh, Sean Hannity has been asked by the

00:27:11.560 January 6th committee to, uh, cooperate voluntarily with the January 6th, uh, uh, committee. I wanted to

00:27:19.840 get your reaction to that. Well, uh, you know, Sean obviously had a lot of proximity to the president,

00:27:25.540 had a unique relationship with the president. It's not surprising for political theater that the

00:27:29.720 Democrats would do that. He's a journalist. You're a journalist. I'm a journalist. There ought to be

00:27:34.160 some separation between the government's intrusion on our free speech activities. But, you know,

00:27:38.760 during Ukraine, they put my phone records out there without ever even interviewing me,

00:27:42.520 suggested what they showed when they didn't even know what they showed or what they were about.

00:27:45.940 We have seen Adam Schiff and now his, his sort of puppet master, uh, uh, Benny Thompson,

00:27:51.180 not really be regard to first amendment or, or privilege or any of these things. So it's not

00:27:56.540 surprising, but I think it's bad for journalism. It's bad for those in the free speech industry that

00:28:00.940 Congress feels so emboldened that they can intrude on journalists, phone records on internalist

00:28:05.700 conversations and on our reporting work. That's something that's not good for a democracy or

00:28:10.620 a constitutional Republic. Well, you and I shared a list, uh, that had drawn up apparently by the

00:28:15.920 embassy, uh, in Ukraine, uh, uh, uh, being monitored by the request that we be monitored. I always assumed

00:28:24.840 we were. How about you? Yeah. Oh yes. I assume that everyone's watching, including my mother when I

00:28:30.080 report. So I try to behave all the time. Well, I was just thinking of phone calls from one family

00:28:35.440 member to another and I'll also, we always make that assumption, but, uh, I do, uh, want to say,

00:28:42.040 I think that it's just stunning that they would make that request because they know what they're

00:28:47.020 doing. And if they can come after journalists, I mean, they did it with my former colleague,

00:28:50.940 James Rosen. Uh, he and I were at Fox news with, and that was the Obama administration,

00:28:57.540 uh, the highly ill liberal, uh, liberal administration, uh, is so quick to, to do things 0.97

00:29:04.180 that are, that are just simply stunning, uh, and roll back, uh, years of tradition. And really,

00:29:11.100 you know, I, I just, I, I dread to think, uh, where we really are with surveillance, uh, this

00:29:19.060 surveillance society that we live in now. And the fact that the deep state, uh, has picked a side

00:29:25.600 and that side is definitely not, uh, the Republican conservative independent, uh, voter. Uh, it is

00:29:34.100 the, the, the left in this country. What do you think? Yeah, no, that's it. Listen, the media,

00:29:39.640 the state bureaucracy and democratic activists clearly have been working together. That's the

00:29:43.360 lesson of Russia collusion. And it may very well be the lesson of many of the other scandals that

00:29:47.900 were unraveling piece by piece by piece. And, you know, we're so blessed to have, you know,

00:29:52.140 you have such an amazing bullhorn and an intellect. We're so lucky reporters like I can do a lot of

00:29:56.840 work, but if we don't get people who amplify it, we never get the truth out there. And all through

00:30:00.860 Russia, you were there to get that truth out. And you made a huge difference in this country.

00:30:05.480 And I think we have some more unraveling to do over the next couple of years.

00:30:09.400 Well, let me, if I may reciprocate the plaudits and, uh, and do so to the, to the third order.

00:30:16.260 Uh, your work has been, uh, critically important and the work that just the news does is just

00:30:22.180 terrific. And I also want to congratulate you on getting Twitter to admit its error, uh, in suspending

00:30:29.000 your account over, uh, your reporting on COVID. Totally true story. They had to admit it. Yeah.

00:30:36.160 And, uh, how, how, how many hours did it take to get that reverse? Just 12 hours. I was on timeout

00:30:41.200 for 12 hours. I felt like a child getting a timeout from their parent when they didn't do it. My brother

00:30:45.260 did it, but I got in trouble. I hear you. That happened a few times when I was a kid.

00:30:50.660 Well, and it's, you know, I will give Twitter some credit, uh, but most of all, I want to give you

00:30:57.040 credit because you knew exactly how to handle it. You didn't go through a, a, a public, uh, uh,

00:31:03.680 uh, review. You've, you've made it informal. And I think that was helpful too. And I think others

00:31:10.280 should learn, uh, the lesson because rightly or wrongly, and I think it's mostly, uh, it's all

00:31:16.980 wrong that they have that kind of power, whether it's Twitter or Facebook, uh, it's horrible to see

00:31:23.120 it happen. And even though they didn't straighten it out, their power is misplaced and the abuse is,

00:31:28.880 uh, they're harming democracy. Absolutely. John, thanks so much. We appreciate it as always.

00:31:35.300 Uh, John Solomon, just the news and, uh, what a story. Uh, congratulations again.

00:31:42.580 Thank you. Have a happy new year. You too. Happy new year. We'll continue in just one moment

00:31:48.140 with more truth, justice, and the American way here on the great America show.

00:31:56.420 This new year is looking a lot like the old year when taking a look at our politics and our so-called

00:32:03.160 government. I say so-called because our federal government has become a dysfunctional and often

00:32:09.340 confused assortment of indolent civil servants, not all of them, but many of them, many of whom are

00:32:16.560 neither civil nor servant as a matter of fact. And many of them are part of the so-called deep state.

00:32:23.040 And most of them have taken sides in America's great political conflict. And I don't have to tell

00:32:29.180 you which side they've taken. They're forever bigger government, just like the Marxist radical

00:32:34.520 Dems, greater government powers over citizens. And yes, ever fewer rights for private citizens

00:32:40.940 whose hard work pays all those bills. I said at the outset of my remarks that this new year was looking

00:32:48.140 a lot like last year when it comes to politics. One reason Joe Biden's poll numbers are on the same

00:32:54.360 trajectory, ever lower. And in poll after poll, Biden's approval numbers are at the lowest level

00:33:01.560 of his presidency. It seems like he's been in office forever and his approval ratings in free fall

00:33:08.400 forever. And some of you may be surprised that he's been in office less than a year. His first term at

00:33:15.920 this rate will seem like a decade. I don't even want to contemplate the pain that he will likely cause

00:33:22.280 this country over the next three years. But this year is also an election year. It's a year of

00:33:27.960 opportunity, one in which we can make a difference by voting the fools, all of them, both the radical Dems

00:33:34.980 and the spinalist rhino Republicans. This year, we'll find out whether conservatives and patriots

00:33:40.980 are sufficiently motivated and concerned to vote in a government that actually cares about our citizens,

00:33:46.980 cares about our families, their health and prosperity, and a government that actually delivers

00:33:52.860 truth and justice and will preserve our American way of life. One of those who's leading the fight on

00:33:59.980 Capitol Hill is Congressman Andy Biggs. Congressman Biggs is on the House Judiciary and Oversight Reform

00:34:06.640 Committees. He's co-chair of the Border Security Caucus and the Freedom Caucus. Congressman, great to have

00:34:12.800 you with us. Welcome to the Great America Show. And your colleagues have been spending a lot of time

00:34:18.800 back in your districts. You guys have had a little vacation, and I think well-deserved, especially in

00:34:24.940 your case. And I'm sure our audience would like to know what you've been hearing from your

00:34:29.240 constituents back home, their concerns, and what they're thinking about this so-called government

00:34:35.320 of ours. Well, Lou, great to be with you again. I'll tell you that. And I'll just tell you,

00:34:42.680 it's been good to be back for a couple weeks here and get around in my district. And I'm fortunate I

00:34:47.980 live in a district that generally takes a free approach on COVID stuff. So there's a lot of people

00:34:55.900 out. A lot of folks I get to see in their businesses. And I also had to tell a town hall

00:35:02.200 while I was out and also met with other groups as well. So I'll just tell you what they're saying,

00:35:07.120 Lou. They are in absolute dismay about the direction of the country. So when I talk to them,

00:35:15.120 you know what drives them? They're talking about inflation. They're talking about the economy.

00:35:21.520 They're talking about the border crisis where just Arizona is so negatively impacted by the

00:35:29.440 literally tens of thousands coming across every month into Arizona. The drug trafficking,

00:35:38.080 the sex trafficking, all of that, the human smuggling, all that's going on with that.

00:35:42.440 They're concerned about our drop in prestige around the world. They're talking about high crime rates.

00:35:48.440 Look, we've got Tucson in Arizona. That is one of the top 12 homicide cities in the country.

00:35:57.640 They're dismayed. If they've got businesses, they're having trouble getting workers to come out

00:36:04.720 and work for them because of all of the incentives to stay away. But you know what? They're big

00:36:12.640 believers. They're big believers that we can make a change and get this back.

00:36:16.900 And they want to make a change. They do not want the same trajectory that we've been on.

00:36:22.020 Well, it is a disaster. I think even you as a leader of the Freedom Caucus, a conservative

00:36:29.420 Republican, you've got to be surprised at how much damage Joe Biden has already done to the country in

00:36:37.480 in his first year in office.

00:36:40.700 Yeah, it has been. This is why I said about six months ago, I said, this is not incompetence.

00:36:47.220 This has got to be by design. Nobody could be this successful at destroying the country

00:36:51.520 and wrapping it up around the axle unless they had a plan and a design. And this was their plan.

00:36:57.940 They're Marxists. And they like chaos. And they like division. And they want to centralize government.

00:37:03.720 In your monologue, you talked about our government. Our government is no longer a federal government.

00:37:09.540 It's a national government. And they want that power centralized in D.C.

00:37:12.920 And in so doing, they're crushing everything that we know to be Americana, our legacy, our history,

00:37:22.980 our future. And that's where they are.

00:37:26.960 It's where they are. And they are intent on driving this country to a true single payer health care system.

00:37:33.900 Their intent on that border being wide open. Let's talk about the border. You're on the Border Security Caucus.

00:37:40.920 You have been dealing with this issue since you went to Washington. I've been covering this issue for 20 years.

00:37:48.740 And I have to tell you, it's gotten worse, not better, more irrational, not more oriented to the national interest at all,

00:37:58.540 farther from it, in point of fact. Your thoughts about what can be done, given the power that the Democratic Party holds over both the White House and the Senate and House?

00:38:12.560 Well, in Congress, we've got to keep pushing the policies forward that have to be pushed, even though they're not going to get through.

00:38:19.060 But the American public needs to know that these are the policies that work.

00:38:22.700 The second thing is the states have, I mean, the border states have got to take charge.

00:38:27.080 I mean, if I were governor here in Arizona, I would have had a special legislative session six months ago dealing with this issue.

00:38:35.160 I'd make sure that, you know, Arizona had a budget surplus and most states did because of all the federal dollars coming in.

00:38:41.420 But what I would do is I'd make sure that the Department of Public Safety was fully funded, that they had their task force down there, that our National Guard was down there.

00:38:48.960 We've got four counties right along the border and a fifth one that is the funnel for most getaways and drug trafficking in the country.

00:38:55.120 And at least three or four of those sheriffs are willing to arrest and prosecute and their county attorneys will prosecute.

00:39:03.520 I'd make sure they had the resources they need.

00:39:05.840 I'd make sure that we backed them up.

00:39:08.240 And then I'd make sure we had detention facilities to put these people in detention and hold them until they were deported,

00:39:18.180 which probably won't happen under this administration ever.

00:39:21.740 But that's those are some things the states can do.

00:39:24.560 And then the other thing is to continue to advocate at the courts.

00:39:28.620 We've won a number and a lot of these special interest law firms have had very some good success in the federal courts dealing with the abrogation of their constitutional duty by this administration.

00:39:44.360 So that's a three-pronged approach.

00:39:48.500 But, you know, if you did certain things, Lou, you and I both know this, MPP, remaining Mexico policy, Title 42, and build the wall.

00:39:58.840 You do that and almost immediately you start sending a message and this thing calms down.

00:40:03.640 But right now this administration won't have that, will not have that.

00:40:08.440 You know, as a cub reporter early in my career, I lived and worked in Yuma, Arizona, loved the community, loved the area.

00:40:21.020 I'm a huge fan of the high desert, the Sonora Desert there.

00:40:26.940 And at that time, and we're talking 40 years ago, we're talking about then it was drug interdiction.

00:40:34.340 It was human smuggling.

00:40:36.020 It was a battle between Cesar Chavez and his Chavistas and the green card holders coming across from San Luis Sonora at that port of entry. 0.88

00:40:47.660 And I look at what's happening now and it's completely out of control.

00:40:53.260 And the border patrol is in even worse shape than it was then.

00:40:57.620 At least there was a respect for the border patrol.

00:41:00.460 Well, now there obviously isn't, not just the cartels, but every, you know, every independent smuggler and mule has, you know, has his or her favorite crossing on that border.

00:41:15.240 Yeah, Lou, look and look at the guy they just put in charge of CBP.

00:41:20.460 This guy is an open porters, a radical advocate.

00:41:24.840 And so things will get worse.

00:41:27.040 Mayorkas has been a disaster. 0.99

00:41:29.200 I went down to the border a couple of weeks back just to just drive down on a Sunday morning down to Yuma.

00:41:33.700 So, and, and Lou, in 45 minutes, I was, I know where the gaps are.

00:41:39.260 I've been down, I go down there all the time.

00:41:40.820 So within 45 minutes, we see about 150 people just walk across and it's nonchalant anymore, Lou.

00:41:49.480 It's, they just literally walk across.

00:41:52.220 Each one of them has got a cell phone.

00:41:53.900 They're FaceTiming back home saying, look, I made it to America.

00:41:57.380 I made it to America.

00:41:58.220 And you know what?

00:41:59.020 They will because, yeah, the Yuma County Sheriff's deputies are down there.

00:42:03.980 They're kind of holding it down at the border, waiting for the CBP guys who can't enforce an arrest anymore, who were just transporting and processing.

00:42:12.020 And that's what they were doing.

00:42:13.300 They were just coming, picking these guys up, processing them.

00:42:15.980 And within a couple of days, most of those people, probably 80, 90% of them are going to be dispersed throughout the United States of America all over.

00:42:22.740 You know, I suspect a few people listening to us at least think, well, you know, they're coming to America.

00:42:29.260 Isn't that nice?

00:42:31.040 It's wonderful, the spirit of, you know, the great melting pot.

00:42:36.960 But in point of fact, that isn't what this is about.

00:42:40.280 We had 400,000 anchor babies born in this country last year, more than born in all of the other 49 states.

00:42:49.180 The other state is California with 420,000 babies born.

00:42:55.320 It's crazy what is happening here.

00:43:00.180 And people, there should be logos on some sort of jumpsuit or whatever garb that the illegal immigrant wears across that border that should have, you know, we're here compliments of the business roundtable. 0.86

00:43:13.880 Or we're here compliments of the Chamber of Commerce.

00:43:16.560 How about, we're here thanks to, you know, you pick the big box company you want to, compliments of whatever corporation or business that needs cheap labor.

00:43:29.380 And there also ought to be an accounting of how much it's costing American workers because of cheap labor coming into the country and competing with them.

00:43:40.740 It's really disgusting to watch because the public is just so poorly informed on it, whether because of our so-called federal government or because of the lobbying of the business, the U.S. multinationals, the big business groups like the Business Roundtable, the Chamber of Commerce.

00:43:59.640 Your thoughts?

00:44:00.340 Yeah, I mean, just trying to unpack that.

00:44:04.260 I mean, I think of what Barbara Jordan said multiple times that the illegal low-wage workers who are coming in basically hurt the black community more than any other community and should be stopped.

00:44:19.540 I mean, that's why Cesar Chavez, as you mentioned earlier, that's why he said, we don't want these folks illegally coming in and taking our jobs. 0.96

00:44:28.000 We're going to unionize the farm workers out there.

00:44:31.020 I mean, it's a real thing that these jobs are being taken.

00:44:37.380 Look, this is happening at the same time, Lou, that the federal government, the national government has been incentivizing people not to work.

00:44:44.880 So, I mean, that's everything from raising food stamp amounts, child care allotments, unemployment bonuses, et cetera.

00:44:54.380 So you're incentivizing people not to work, and yet you're bringing in people to work to take their jobs.

00:45:01.440 And it's not just people.

00:45:03.660 People think about this in kind of a really gentrified way.

00:45:08.860 They think, oh, these are just folks, our neighbors from the south in Mexico that are coming up.

00:45:12.680 No, they have about 140-plus nations represented in the 2 million illegal apprehensions last year.

00:45:20.600 And every time I go down there, last time it was four Bangladeshis.

00:45:24.320 The time before, it was a Syrian. 0.99

00:45:26.380 You've seen people from Turkey.

00:45:28.860 Uzbekistan, I've seen.

00:45:30.280 All over the world.

00:45:31.540 And China.

00:45:32.260 And China.

00:45:32.960 They're coming into Yuma, for Pete's sakes.

00:45:35.300 And, Lou, here's the weird thing.

00:45:37.220 They're coming to Mexico on a tourist visa.

00:45:39.200 They're flying to Mexicali, and they're taking an Uber over to Algodones, which is on the south side.

00:45:45.540 And then they're walking across.

00:45:48.000 And you just go.

00:45:51.460 It's astounding.

00:45:53.600 It's breathtaking.

00:45:55.100 I think it's pretty clear.

00:45:57.380 This border is a joke.

00:45:59.480 It's not about either the Border Patrol, Customs and Border Patrol.

00:46:04.680 They've lost control of it because that control has been the opportunity to control.

00:46:09.720 That border has been taken away from them.

00:46:11.800 We actually have a situation in which the Democratic Party has demanded that the Border Patrol not patrol the border,

00:46:19.940 not enforce our border security.

00:46:22.060 That's not an accident.

00:46:24.560 That is the demand of the Obama administration, Chuck Schumer, and Nancy Pelosi, and the radical Democratic Party.

00:46:32.660 It's that straightforward.

00:46:34.540 And they do so.

00:46:35.980 I'm sorry.

00:46:36.780 Go ahead.

00:46:37.640 No, I was just going to say you're exactly right.

00:46:39.360 I mean, I'd had enough months and months ago, and so I introduced a resolution to impeach Mayorkas on this issue

00:46:46.960 because it's clearly a violation of his obligation.

00:46:51.440 He is violating the law.

00:46:54.100 He is committing, in my opinion, felonies by aiding and abetting illegal immigration, human smuggling, sex trafficking, drug trafficking.

00:47:03.860 They basically said, we're going to open up our border.

00:47:08.660 He lies to the American people and says the border is secure.

00:47:11.540 But he won't let, like you say, he won't let them enforce.

00:47:13.720 So they've directed ICE not to gather up to 1.2 million people with removal orders in the country and send them out.

00:47:21.440 He won't let them enforce the law, and they won't let the Border Patrol enforce the law.

00:47:25.380 And right now, the Border Patrol is a processing unit, and it's not their fault.

00:47:29.500 It's not the rank and file.

00:47:30.680 It's not their problem.

00:47:31.640 It is the leaders of this administration who are basically prohibiting them from doing what they're supposed to do,

00:47:38.100 which is to protect our border.

00:47:39.980 Well, why won't someone stand up and say, you know, the Mexican cartels control the border, the southern border, from the south.

00:47:51.140 But if anybody thinks that the cartels have no influence with the Democratic Party and no control over the northern side of that border, they're hopelessly naive.

00:48:04.320 There's a reason that Mayorkas and the others, you know, with their certified radical credentials, are upending 100 years of border security 0.99

00:48:17.220 and in favor of the interest of other nations and other philosophies and ideologies than, you know, the good old American way, truth and justice.

00:48:30.000 I mean, this is absolutely amazing that he ever was – I can't understand how in the world he was confirmed.

00:48:37.680 He's always been a radical.

00:48:40.740 Yeah, no, that's – you're exactly right.

00:48:43.480 And I think of a couple of things.

00:48:47.380 You know, there were two sheriffs, candidates in a county in Texas who both had cartel ties.

00:48:53.640 They both had cartel ties.

00:48:54.820 And the briefings that we get, they tell us that basically if you have any kind of drug use in your community right now,

00:49:07.260 the Mexican cartels have a presence in those communities.

00:49:10.560 Absolutely.

00:49:11.500 And it expands and expands.

00:49:13.820 And now you've got the flights going out at midnight again.

00:49:18.300 By the way, that's not news.

00:49:20.780 You and I both know this.

00:49:21.740 That's been going on.

00:49:23.020 That's been going on.

00:49:23.960 It's just now some people have caught on to it.

00:49:26.440 But those flights have been going on, regularly dispersing people throughout the country.

00:49:33.840 And –

00:49:34.880 That's been going on since the Clinton administration, by the way, which came up with the concept of using the refugee apparatus and regulations in order to bring in whomever they wanted

00:49:45.960 and disperse them into communities, usually in the dark of night.

00:49:49.920 And it's happened – and it's happened from border to border, coast to coast.

00:49:55.500 This isn't about just the southern border or the border states.

00:49:59.120 But it does raise a question.

00:50:01.140 Why in the world – and I think you will agree with this – why in the world is Donald Trump the only president who's had the guts to stand up and say the cartels are the enemy here?

00:50:13.480 And that they must be dealt with because they are the ones bringing in all of the drugs, methamphetamines, marijuana, cocaine, heroin, fentanyl, that are killing mostly our young people, but 100,000 overdose deaths.

00:50:27.780 And they're just considered collateral damage in what is a very acute exercise by the Biden administration and the radical dims in an open society.

00:50:39.380 It's disgusting to watch.

00:50:42.340 And people are inured to it because the media won't deal honestly with the subject.

00:50:46.600 Well, you know, President Trump, he rocketed to the top of the Republican primary in 2016 because he talked about enforcing the border.

00:51:01.340 And I think most Americans get this, that you have to enforce your border.

00:51:06.520 But he also – President Trump understood that the cartels – President Trump understands it's a business.

00:51:13.320 For the cartels, it is a business.

00:51:15.500 So when they can make more money smuggling humans in, they bring in humans. 0.81

00:51:19.680 When they can make more money doing drugs, they're doing drugs, sex traffic, whatever it is, they are there to make money.

00:51:25.920 Yeah.

00:51:26.280 All of it is against the law.

00:51:27.920 And that's why – it's like the old saying, why do you rob the bank?

00:51:31.160 Because that's where the money is.

00:51:33.280 But the reality is, why don't we have leaders other than President Trump who've got the guts to say the cartels have corrupted both sides of the border, not one.

00:51:42.760 And they have corrupted community after community across this country.

00:51:48.100 And the Democratic Party is an ally in their demand that that border be kept open so that they can deal in sex trafficking and drug smuggling and human smuggling.

00:52:00.880 So it is – he's the only one who had the guts.

00:52:05.460 And we've got to find some people, some leaders with guts.

00:52:08.620 One of those people, by the way – I just want to change the subject here, if I may, Congressman – Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:52:16.020 Twitter throws her off of Twitter, bans her for life because her philosophy, her opinion, and her views don't conform to those of, I guess, Dr. Fauci and the Twitter literati.

00:52:35.860 It's outrageous.

00:52:36.860 It's outrageous.

00:52:37.500 Big tech deciding who will be able to speak and that a congressman and a president can't because they disagree with his or her opinion.

00:52:47.540 This is outrageous.

00:52:49.380 Well, it's fascist, in my opinion, though.

00:52:52.160 Oh, no doubt.

00:52:52.620 Because what's happening here is it's a violation of the First Amendment being implemented by a company that's so – its main subsidization came from regulations that allowed it and permitted it to exist and expand its censorship role.

00:53:12.220 That's on the federal government.

00:53:15.180 And so it needs to be changed.

00:53:17.100 I mean, the day after she got the Twitter ban, Facebook took her down.

00:53:25.020 So, I mean, these folks – it isn't – whether you agree with her or disagree with her, this should not be happening to anybody.

00:53:34.200 But Marjorie Greene, she's – she's – she's actually – all she has in the one – the piece that they don't like is she actually puts out data supplied by VAERS,

00:53:42.740 which is the National Reporting Service on vaccines and –

00:53:48.060 An adverse reaction.

00:53:50.620 Exactly.

00:53:51.720 And so to say we're not going to allow that to go forward because it's untrue is absolutely – it's got to be taken care of.

00:54:00.720 And there's a couple ways you can do it.

00:54:02.300 And I know – I'm afraid that too many of my colleagues want to go a softer way, but I think you're going to have to go big time on this.

00:54:10.880 There is no softer way.

00:54:12.300 Yes.

00:54:12.520 Either the government runs this country, either the Congress of the United States represents the American people.

00:54:19.320 And if you represent the American people in the Constitution, how in the heck could you possibly let Dorsey and all those other morons in big tech and social media throw up?

00:54:33.960 I mean, no one's even reacted to the fact President Trump was banned from Twitter, a president of the United States, congressmen and women.

00:54:44.340 And by the way, I give Rand Paul all the credit in the world.

00:54:47.320 He just said, to heck with YouTube.

00:54:50.680 He walked out.

00:54:52.180 He's done.

00:54:53.760 And – because he's not going to put up with people trying to silence him nor their colleagues.

00:55:00.240 I don't understand why the Republican Party congressman doesn't just say to Dorsey and the owners of Twitter, that's it.

00:55:09.860 You either put her back and stop this now or we're going to take action.

00:55:15.620 But why doesn't the Republican Party leadership have any guts is what I'm asking you.

00:55:22.480 You know, I've – Lou, I've been wondering that for five years and more now, to be honest with you.

00:55:28.980 But I will just tell you, if – you can't just go in and say we're going to revise Section 230 and that will make things copacetic.

00:55:40.040 You've got to have to destroy their model of anti-competitive monopolistic behavior, in my opinion.

00:55:47.120 Well, you should anyway.

00:55:48.820 I mean, irrespective of anything, that should be done because it's ill – it's un-American to give that kind of power.

00:55:56.380 I mean, we've got a company, an Apple, $3 trillion.

00:55:59.720 It's doing quarter of a trillion dollar deals with communist China and stiffing our ally, Taiwan.

00:56:08.800 One, it's incredible what they're doing.

00:56:12.500 Well, and there is a movement within the Republicans.

00:56:20.240 It's – in my opinion, it's the same old thing that you've always talked about, Lou.

00:56:24.960 There's this – the uniparty Republicans, and they're the people who are the – make America great again, the American first Republicans.

00:56:34.240 And so there's that internal dissension going on constantly.

00:56:39.160 But the – at least I will say, for the first time in quite some time, I am actually hearing Kevin McCarthy talk about, we have got to stay and back up Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:56:53.200 He hasn't done – he hasn't done a thing.

00:56:58.300 He's got an interesting new tone of patter, but it's just patter.

00:57:03.320 And I can't stand any more fake Republicans.

00:57:08.700 If he wants to do something –

00:57:09.580 It has to be real.

00:57:10.360 Then he's got to do it.

00:57:11.660 And by the way, he's a very likable guy, or he couldn't be a politician, right?

00:57:15.680 But I cannot stand the fact that he can't muster the spine to stand up for her and make things happen because he has that power.

00:57:27.760 And if Mitch McConnell wants to mess with him, let him mess with him because McCarthy either stands on principle and leads the Republican Party and crushes the rhino influence within it that has been so deleterious to the national interest,

00:57:43.780 the Republican interest, the Republican interest.

00:57:46.160 I mean, having – you know, watching Mitt Romney walk around, a Liz Cheney talking like they're some sort of Republicans on Sunday television is absurd.

00:57:57.720 But anyway, you get the last word here, Congressman.

00:58:00.940 I appreciate your time.

00:58:02.580 I appreciate your views.

00:58:03.820 And thank you.

00:58:05.560 Thank you, Congressman, for leading the fight in every way you can in the House of Representatives.

00:58:12.320 Well, Lou, it's just great to be with you and have this conversation.

00:58:17.700 Again, I miss having our regular conversations that we used to have.

00:58:21.140 And thank you for what you do.

00:58:23.320 I mean, I always considered you as someone who really raised the level of discourse to allow people to see very clearly what's going on.

00:58:32.740 And I think you have a great vision for that.

00:58:35.760 And I know I'm not going to quit fighting.

00:58:39.000 I know you won't quit fighting.

00:58:39.980 I really believe the American people want us to keep fighting.

00:58:43.200 Absolutely.

00:58:43.700 And that's – getting back to where we started with, that's what I tell you.

00:58:46.540 My people tell me all the time, fight harder, Andy.

00:58:49.160 Fight harder.

00:58:50.800 And the next time you see Kevin McCarthy, tell the minority leader how much America loves him, give him a big bear hug.

00:58:59.980 And get him to fighting.

00:59:05.060 Actually, fighting.

00:59:06.800 We don't want to hear fighting words.

00:59:08.700 We want to see a fight, and we want to see the Republicans win it.

00:59:13.740 Congressman, it's great to have you with us.

00:59:16.480 I wish you all the very best.

00:59:17.620 Look forward to talking with you soon.

00:59:19.700 Thank you.

00:59:20.540 Thank you.

00:59:21.720 Congressman Andy Biggs of the great state of Arizona.

00:59:25.400 Join us again tomorrow for the Great America podcast.

00:59:29.480 Stay in the fight.

00:59:30.440 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

00:59:35.840 You got to go ahead.

00:59:37.180 Bye, everybody.

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The Great America Show - January 11, 2022

GEORGIA PROBES BOGUS BALLOTS; DEM MARXISTS RIP USA

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