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00:00:00.000 Hello, folks, and welcome to The Great America Show and Rasmussen Reports.

00:00:07.140 I'm John Fawcett, alongside my co-host tonight and good friend in this business, the great

00:00:11.960 Mark Mitchells.

00:00:13.000 It's just it's about five minutes past the hour, nine o'clock on the East Coast.

00:00:17.520 Polls are now closed in New York.

00:00:19.220 Polls are closed in Virginia, where the race has already been called for the Virginia governor's

00:00:23.480 race, the attorney general's race. 0.95

00:00:25.280 Fortunately, the Republicans didn't prevail.

00:00:26.820 We're still holding out on that attorney general's race, which has been plagued by racism and

00:00:31.940 hatred on the Democrat side.

00:00:34.540 We will bring you the New York results as they come in, the California ballot results as they

00:00:40.020 come in, but the hotly contested race here in New York City.

00:00:44.260 Mark, a delight to be with you tonight, my friend.

00:00:47.020 Yeah, really great to be here and no surprises, no surprises at all.

00:00:51.660 If people were following us, they would know that there were their problems.

00:00:54.620 The Republican Party is not going to win in a blue state, especially not with Trump on

00:01:00.400 the tickets.

00:01:00.780 It's just not going to happen.

00:01:02.880 Well, I've got some good news, Mark.

00:01:04.080 Before we get into tonight's show a little bit further, we've got a good friend and a

00:01:07.720 special guest joining us is a good friend of mine, a great friend of the show, none other

00:01:11.940 than a brilliant Republican strategist and pollster and great friend, the great Roger Stone.

00:01:18.700 Roger, we appreciate you joining us this late at night, my friend.

00:01:21.340 Well, I'm happy to be here.

00:01:22.960 I'm also, by the way, I follow Rasmussen polls very closely.

00:01:26.460 I'm a big fan of Mark's work.

00:01:28.540 I think he's one of the fairest, most objective, and I think shrewdest analysts of the numbers

00:01:33.520 out there.

00:01:34.060 So I'm glad to be with you.

00:01:36.160 Of course, I'm also on my third martini.

00:01:38.500 Anyway.

00:01:39.120 Oh, no.

00:01:39.820 We're in trouble tonight.

00:01:46.200 Roger, give us your assessment on what happened tonight.

00:01:50.720 I see, in my opinion, a regression, Roger.

00:01:53.720 If you look at that Virginia's race with Winston Sears, I see a regression back to the pre-Trump

00:01:59.980 days, the Country Club era Republican days of Republicans who just don't embrace the MAGA

00:02:04.840 agenda.

00:02:05.340 Your thoughts?

00:02:05.860 Well, first of all, I think it is a misnomer that has long been in American politics that

00:02:10.900 the first off-year gubernatorial elections are a measure of how the national administration

00:02:17.300 is doing.

00:02:18.940 And that used to be true.

00:02:20.460 I don't think it is true any longer.

00:02:23.520 These are both reliably blue states that are demographically have been trending away from

00:02:30.200 Republicans.

00:02:30.680 Virginia in the 70s became a reliably conservative state, won by virtually all of the Republican

00:02:38.660 presidential candidates, has only trended left with the implosion of new residents, particularly

00:02:45.160 in northern Virginia.

00:02:47.000 And also the suburbs of Richmond, which were once solidly Republican and conservative,

00:02:52.580 have become substantially more moderate.

00:02:54.340 And New Jersey is an interesting state because Trump lost there by 15 points.

00:03:01.860 It was a non-targeted state.

00:03:03.560 That was in 2020.

00:03:05.300 But in 2024, when it was still a non-targeted state, he only lost by five.

00:03:11.220 That demonstrates that, at least on paper, that Jack Cittarelli could make it a race.

00:03:16.580 And I actually give him great credit.

00:03:18.180 And I think he did make it a race against, you know, huge demographic odds.

00:03:24.160 And I thought he scored in the debates with her.

00:03:28.180 His opponent seems like she's a better fit for Virginia than she is New Jersey. 1.00

00:03:34.100 There's nothing New Jersey about her.

00:03:36.060 She, of course, comes from the Hunt country in Morris County.

00:03:38.680 She's not reflective of the Democrat machines in Newark and Camden and Bergen counties, Hudson County particularly.

00:03:48.120 But I do think that there's a huge Democrat advantage here.

00:03:52.820 Also disturbed me last week when the Passaic Board of Elections chairman,

00:03:58.980 who happens to also wear a second hat as the Passaic County Democrat chairman,

00:04:03.260 announced that there would be no cameras allowed in the paper ballot counting area.

00:04:09.200 And there would be no log kept as to who it came and went from that area.

00:04:13.380 Welcome to New Jersey.

00:04:16.700 Mark, your home state.

00:04:19.040 Yeah.

00:04:19.640 And it was a sunny, beautiful day.

00:04:21.340 Probably would have been better for Jack if it had been raining.

00:04:24.340 But that's the problem is that people look at those elections and they say, wow, isn't it stunning?

00:04:30.800 New Jersey is purplish.

00:04:32.000 And I think that they kind of forget that in 2021, people were really, really, really mad at Murphy here.

00:04:39.360 Government overreach with COVID was a really big problem.

00:04:42.460 Businesses were getting shut down all over New Jersey.

00:04:45.020 And I think that that's one of the reasons that he did that well.

00:04:47.940 And then people will look at his vote share and says, oh, well, he actually outperformed Trump.

00:04:52.300 He only lost by 3 percent, forgetting that it's an off-cycle election and he only got 1.2 million votes.

00:04:58.360 And Donald Trump was able to convince 2 million people to vote for him in 2024.

00:05:02.580 But then the other thing about 2024 is that I think we all have to acknowledge how bad the Biden presidency sucked.

00:05:09.180 And that was a tailwind, I think, for Donald Trump in a place like New Jersey.

00:05:12.640 And it's not something that's going to convert to, again, Jack's great, but I don't think that Republicans really have a believable plan for New Jersey that can compensate for the fact that most of these people probably just voted for Mikey Sherrill because they hate Trump.

00:05:28.200 Like that's probably really what I think happened.

00:05:30.200 And they're going to continue to lose, especially among the young people who, if they were not voting, Jack Cittarelli probably would have come a lot closer to winning and might have won.

00:05:41.320 I agree with most of that.

00:05:42.760 I would say a couple of things.

00:05:43.600 First of all, I think Cittarelli's close finish was a freak accident when one of Phil Murphy's people actually blurted out the fact that he was going to put in place far more draconian lockdowns because of COVID-19.

00:05:57.220 I think that caused a late rally for Jack, and he overperformed in that race.

00:06:03.400 That did not mean the Republicans would automatically win the governor's race.

00:06:07.340 But here's the other thing I can tell you.

00:06:08.920 If the Republicans won both tonight by just a freak accident, the Republicans triumphed in both Virginia and New Jersey.

00:06:17.860 The fake news media would say this was not a referendum on Trump, and he was lucky.

00:06:22.420 But when we lose both, which is what you would expect based on all of the research, all the history, all the polling and all of the trends, these are blue states, heavily blue states, they will say it's a repudiation of Donald Trump.

00:06:37.760 So he can't really win.

00:06:39.680 I don't think it's a measure particularly of anything other than the fact that high turnouts in all of these elections show that people are angry.

00:06:48.300 And then you have the mess in New York, which is a whole separate question.

00:06:54.180 Real quick, we want to get to New York, Roger.

00:06:56.180 But before we move on to New York, the issue I took with Cittarelli's race was an issue that I took with Carrie Lake's race and her numerous losses down in Arizona.

00:07:04.780 Cittarelli was running on this national stage, and I turned on Fox News last Thursday or Friday, and I see Cittarelli in a town hall with Sean Hannity.

00:07:11.840 And then I think to myself, I worked at Fox News, and I've seen the numbers of the people that watch in New Jersey.

00:07:17.440 That's not how you win a race.

00:07:18.880 How you win a race is doing exactly what Zohan Mamdani did in New York, and you go resonate with the people.

00:07:24.460 That's the issue I took with Jack Cittarelli in his last week.

00:07:27.260 He spent on Fox News every single day.

00:07:29.700 Well, I guess I would argue that if you looked at your polling, you would find a disproportionate number of his base voters who are still important to keep energized or watching Fox.

00:07:40.220 It's better than, and of course, the mainstream media that's going to reach perhaps a broader voter demographic isn't going to invite him to come.

00:07:49.960 It's kind of the way it works.

00:07:52.700 Look, I think New York is important because I think they're on the cusp of an absolute disaster, but the idea – Mark, I'd like to get your views on this.

00:08:04.160 I've seen some of your polling.

00:08:04.880 The idea that there's a three-person race and one of those people drops out, that all of their voters are going to move immediately to the remaining challenger is a falsity.

00:08:16.740 It doesn't work that way, particularly in the case of Curtis Sliwa, who is the nominee of the Republican Party, who's won a Republican primary, who has running mates running for city council and civil court judges.

00:08:31.800 And Andrew Cuomo's antipathy to traditional Republicans having once said out loud, if you believe in the right to own a gun or you don't support abortion, there's no place for you in New York, and you need to move.

00:08:43.800 You need to leave.

00:08:45.980 Now you add to that his record on COVID and the nursing homes and the no-cash bail that currently plagues New York City and has caused its crime problem.

00:08:56.680 This was signed into law by who?

00:08:59.280 Governor Andrew Cuomo.

00:09:01.520 This guy was a very weak polarizing candidate from the beginning.

00:09:06.160 I was not surprised when he lost the Democrat primary.

00:09:10.740 Yeah, spot on.

00:09:13.220 It made me gross, like really feel dirty, the extent to which so many people came out and tried to interfere and try and somehow prevent this from happening for New York, because this is what New York wants.

00:09:27.740 They are very proudly voting this guy in, especially the young people.

00:09:32.600 And I think that they probably listen to the way that the right complains about him and warns about him and says that it's Muslim Takiyah.

00:09:39.420 Maybe he's going to be Trojan Sharia law. 0.95

00:09:42.200 I think they like that.

00:09:43.620 I think they like how Mamdani makes the right feel, and they don't really care that there might be negative ramifications for ushering socialism into New York, which is the capitalistic banking sector of the world.

00:09:55.680 And so I don't know how much this guy is really going to be able to screw up, and I don't know if Trump should really get involved or not.

00:10:02.580 But coming out there, imagine if Trump was the person that got Cuomo over the finish line.

00:10:08.300 That's a slap in the face to the people who are, quite frankly, like I'm dealing with COVID stuff right now.

00:10:13.220 My mom has what I think is cancers from the third round of Moderna.

00:10:17.520 I didn't want her to get it.

00:10:18.640 And all of these people who had to die alone in a nursing home, it looks like the Republican Party is putting that in the rearview mirror when Donald Trump comes out and supports somebody like Andrew Cuomo.

00:10:29.000 It just – and I feel that.

00:10:31.280 Like I do vaccine polling all the time.

00:10:33.300 We just polled on remdesivir.

00:10:35.040 Nobody cared.

00:10:36.020 It's like it happened.

00:10:37.740 We forgot about it.

00:10:38.700 There's going to be no accountability.

00:10:39.740 And I think the young people that voted for Donald Trump, I think that they were asking for sanity and accountability, and they weren't asking necessarily for traditional grandpappy conservatism because I don't think that's the message they want to hear.

00:10:53.900 And Republican Party.

00:10:55.160 Just to be clear, I mean the most recent data I saw showed that 71 percent of New York voters were less likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Donald Trump.

00:11:04.960 But, again, the notion that if Curtis Sliwa dropped out, all of his votes would go to Cuomo, or if Cuomo dropped out, all of his votes would go to Sliwa, that's a false premise.

00:11:16.780 So for those who say it's Curtis Sliwa's fault that we elected Mamdami, I don't think they understand the true dynamic here.

00:11:23.720 And, in fact, surveys that showed when you took Sliwa out, Andrew Cuomo still wasn't leading Mamdami.

00:11:30.080 He was still trailing him, and he would continue to trail him.

00:11:33.120 I don't think you would have beaten him in a two-person race because he had his unfavorable ratings extraordinarily high.

00:11:40.020 This is a man who had to step down as governor ahead of impeachment for alleged sexual harassment, if not assault.

00:11:48.720 He has the stain of having put all these COVID patients into the nursing home, something he was never charged with, but I think he should have been charged with.

00:11:56.780 I think he lied about it in front of Congress under oath as well.

00:12:00.000 Now, this is a guy who was driven out of town, and he couldn't win the Democrat primary even with that vaunted Cuomo name.

00:12:10.680 So I think he was kind of out of gas, polarizing a weak candidate, not capable to do the kind of street campaigning that Sliwa and Mamdami did extensively,

00:12:21.380 because Andrew Cuomo feared that piece of videotape that goes viral of somebody saying, hey, you, my grandmother died in a nursing home because of you.

00:12:30.840 So he's basically forced Biden-like to campaign from his basement.

00:12:35.060 Yeah, wow.

00:12:35.880 We also saw, as Mark reiterated, Roger, the fact that we had everyone turning and pointing their fingers at everybody.

00:12:43.560 Who is anybody to say?

00:12:45.380 Lou Dobbs used to say to me all the time, Roger, when I would say the less of the two evils, he would tell me I'm an idiot because there's no such thing.

00:12:50.640 They're both evil.

00:12:52.040 Voting for Cuomo is cutting off your nose to spite your face because of Mamdami. 1.00

00:12:55.780 The last time I checked, I think Mamdami is going to be the worst thing that's ever happened for New York. 0.99

00:12:58.900 But the last thing I checked, Mamdami wasn't the one who put tens of thousands of people in nursing homes to die.

00:13:03.920 He wasn't the one who had to resign, as you said, for sexual harassment.

00:13:06.760 So sitting out here, people saying, why are we interfering in an election?

00:13:11.480 Let the process pay out democratically, as we saw any elections.

00:13:16.260 Republicans want to talk about election interference, but at the same time, they want to sit there and interfere in election.

00:13:21.540 New York made its bed, Roger.

00:13:23.260 You can't in the 11th hour come in and say, well, as Cuomo said yesterday, he's sorry for the COVID deaths.

00:13:29.000 Or as these Wall Street hedge fund guys want to come in and say, you know, whatever, whatever.

00:13:34.100 It's too late.

00:13:34.640 The table is set.

00:13:36.280 Sit down and have dinner.

00:13:37.500 Look, I see this billionaire, I guess, Bill Ackman, who's an investor.

00:13:42.420 I'm sure he's a very nice guy.

00:13:43.640 I'm sure he's a fine guy.

00:13:44.900 But he keeps insisting that if Curtis Slewa, the Republican, will just drop out, this would guarantee victory for Andrew Cuomo.

00:13:52.800 And therefore, it will be Curtis Slewa's fault for running for mayor that Mamdami is elected. 0.97

00:13:59.560 I think that's an entirely unfair criticism because, as Mark knows, 100 percent of his votes are not transferable.

00:14:05.600 And the data kind of showed that he'd still lose the race.

00:14:08.700 So I think that kind of unfair commentary from the outside and this last minute Trump urging people to vote for Cuomo over the Republican nominee.

00:14:20.300 I don't think it moved to any votes.

00:14:22.500 The data would indicate that that that Trump is obviously in an overwhelmingly Democrat city.

00:14:27.940 This is not a Trumpian stronghold, to say the least.

00:14:30.940 Republican registration is down to 10 percent in New York City.

00:14:35.340 I actually thought it was 13, but I looked it up and I was wrong.

00:14:38.760 This is an all-time low.

00:14:40.300 This is a city that has only about one quarter of the voters are Roman Catholics.

00:14:46.160 The quarter is now Hispanic.

00:14:48.600 Basically, the whites are only about 31 percent of the city.

00:14:55.460 This is a this is a and, of course, the African-American vote continues to be just less than about a quarter of registered voters.

00:15:05.140 It's not the same as the population breakdown.

00:15:08.620 But this is an overwhelmingly city.

00:15:10.620 The city has has changed demographically very drastically since the days that Rudy Giuliani was elected mayor.

00:15:17.560 And Republicans had to recognize from the beginning the odds of winning, electing a Republican mayor in this city today, given its makeup, were very, very long to begin with.

00:15:29.180 As of 6 p.m.

00:15:29.880 Eastern Time, Roger, I think the vote totals at two million people had voted in New York City, which was the highest turnout since 1993.

00:15:37.640 So as of now, it's probably broken a record.

00:15:40.060 Who is this a referendum on, in your opinion?

00:15:42.380 Look, I think Mim Dami and Mark kind of referred to this in a way.

00:15:47.380 I mean, perhaps it was you.

00:15:48.900 Mim Dami also benefits from this hope and change phenomena, which younger voters buy into the narrative that he's he's you know, he's a grassroots phenomena, challenging the special interests, challenging the dark money, challenging the oligarchs.

00:16:04.420 But in fact, he's completely a creation of them.

00:16:07.320 All of his campaign financing didn't come from small donations, not even the fake ones through Act Blue.

00:16:14.220 No, his donations came from a interlocking collection of 501c3s, 501c4s, nonprofit organizations, NGOs and political parties moving money back and forth quite illegally.

00:16:27.500 And the origins of this money are unknown.

00:16:31.960 But this is a this is a very skilled op to take over first the New York Democrat Party and to take over New York City.

00:16:40.220 Now we are literally in the place where the next mayor may may endorse the ideology of the very people who were told to attack the Twin Towers on 9-11.

00:16:50.560 Yeah. Full circle. It's beautiful. And the part that blows my mind is how much the right projected onto everybody else.

00:17:00.020 It's fear of socialism. And if you ask America what's better, free market capitalism or socialism, they'll say capitalism still, but the number is shrinking.

00:17:10.580 But the people who are like afraid of democratic socialism is not as high as you would think.

00:17:16.980 In fact, most people under 40 would vote for a Democrat socialist.

00:17:20.300 It's like a 30 point lead almost. And in the city, it's even bigger.

00:17:24.300 And so this idea somehow that they think there's a problem.

00:17:26.920 It's like, no, you taught them to love multiculturalism.

00:17:30.320 You didn't really teach them what real capitalism is.

00:17:33.880 And they think even if they knew it, it's failed them.

00:17:37.220 And economic populism is growing. People want more of it on both the right and the left.

00:17:42.720 And unfortunately, they look at a guy like Mamdani, and I think that they say, well, it's different, but maybe he's got the answers because the systems has failed me.

00:17:52.400 And I look at the party, the power, the people in power, and they they're not going after the things that I need them to in order to change things, the level they need to be changed.

00:18:01.720 And I think that that's the problem, because I don't think the right is equipped to really fight that fight right now.

00:18:06.600 And so you're going to see more Mamdani's. 0.80

00:18:08.720 I think I guess I agree that the just the epitaph that you're a Democrat socialist doesn't carry the heavy negative connotations that we might think it is.

00:18:17.860 But when you ask people, do you think it's a good idea to defund the police?

00:18:22.560 Or you ask people, do you think white people should pay a higher taxes in a disproportionate amount of the taxes paid?

00:18:29.500 Which is exactly what Mamdani said.

00:18:31.720 Do you think that the prisons should be opened and everybody in them should be let out?

00:18:37.980 Because as Mamdani said, the only reason you would incarcerate a criminal was to please the victims.

00:18:44.580 He actually said that.

00:18:46.260 So I mean, I think that when people realize the impact of specific policies that Mamdani will enact and how dangerous it's going to be to be in New York City,

00:18:58.100 as I think both capital will flee, large employers will feel small, employers will close down and flee.

00:19:05.480 I think the real estate prices in the city will will descend into hell.

00:19:10.740 And I think there'll be a mass migration to places like Texas, Florida, even Dubai.

00:19:18.360 Dubai, isn't it?

00:19:19.420 You know, I hope the pain is severe for them to to teach them a lesson.

00:19:25.320 The amount of pain that we saw under Joe Biden was good for about a five and a half point move towards Donald Trump.

00:19:32.500 And so it does change people's minds.

00:19:35.660 But how much and is it enough and how fast enough?

00:19:39.260 And is the change reversible?

00:19:40.480 I don't I don't know, because they do.

00:19:43.960 Like you said, they don't like that stuff.

00:19:45.860 They tell us they don't want the police to fund it.

00:19:48.060 Well, then they just vote Democrat anyways.

00:19:49.700 But that's because they're low information voters.

00:19:53.040 Let's put it another way.

00:19:54.240 I actually think that if Mamdani is elected tonight, and I believe he will be, I think Cuomo was never within range.

00:20:01.780 So all of this hoopla over the last several days, he was never within range.

00:20:05.980 Never.

00:20:06.200 Deeply, deeply flawed candidate for all the reasons we've already discussed.

00:20:10.100 But I think that the deterioration of New York City, which is going to be relatively rapid, could very easily impact the New York's upcoming race for governor.

00:20:21.080 Kathy Hochul, she was a gift from Andrew Cuomo.

00:20:23.960 Everybody should remember that.

00:20:25.380 She was lieutenant governor handpicked by Andrew Cuomo, who descended, ascended to the governorship.

00:20:30.740 The most unpopular governor in polling that I have ever seen polling in all kinds of districts.

00:20:36.480 I always keep an eye on her approval ratings and her net unfavorable.

00:20:40.700 It's extraordinary.

00:20:42.040 I think she's endangered in the Democrat primary, although I'm not sure to who.

00:20:46.540 From a generic point of view, if an accomplished Hispanic woman challenged her, she'd be toast, even without a name. 1.00

00:20:54.420 I don't know that that person exists.

00:20:56.580 But at least Stefanik, I think, could be a serious candidate for governor because of these unique circumstances.

00:21:02.880 Yes, this is a deeply blue state and it is it is not easy to elect a Republican.

00:21:08.560 I thought Zeldin ran as good a race as you could with limited resources.

00:21:13.340 I think he worked very hard and he came on at the end and he, I think, exploited some of the vulnerabilities.

00:21:19.020 But this is a different dynamic.

00:21:21.600 If New York City is is burning, I think there's high probability it will be in a rhetorical sense and perhaps even in a literal sense.

00:21:31.180 This could very much impact the governor's race and put the governorship within reach.

00:21:36.980 We're getting the heart out for Roger here.

00:21:38.580 I've just been told by Roger's esteemed colleague, Enrique, that he's got to go.

00:21:43.440 So, Roger, where could where could people follow your show at this half hour?

00:21:47.680 I mean, we're only supposed to go 15 minutes or even a half hour.

00:21:50.080 We appreciate Roger staying with us.

00:21:51.300 Where can they watch your show?

00:21:52.680 Roger's like the hardest working man in radio.

00:21:55.520 So you can hear us every evening during weekdays at 8 p.m.

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00:22:10.420 You can always go to the Stone Zone, StoneZone.com, and you can see interviews and read some of the print stuff I write, get all my books and products.

00:22:20.540 And if you're a real masochist, you can go to StoneColdTruth.com for my sub stack where I wrote an incredible piece on what will happen in New York City if Miam Dami is the mayor.

00:22:31.420 Looking forward to it.

00:22:32.900 The great Roger Stone, you can also catch him on the Great America Show each and every week.

00:22:36.280 Roger, great American, patriot.

00:22:38.820 We'll see you soon, my friend.

00:22:39.680 Thanks so much for joining us.

00:22:41.040 Great to be with you, Mark.

00:22:42.320 And Mark, thank you for your fine work.

00:22:44.200 You do a great job, and I always look forward to your commentary.

00:22:46.920 Thanks so much.

00:22:48.100 Appreciate it.

00:22:48.920 See you soon, Roger.

00:22:49.540 Thanks, brother.

00:22:51.320 Roger's awesome.

00:22:52.340 He's such a good dude.

00:22:53.360 Great American.

00:22:54.480 Psychopedic.

00:22:55.740 He's on my show every weekend.

00:22:57.840 I can't get enough of him.

00:22:59.100 The audience absolutely loves him.

00:23:00.440 He does such a good job.

00:23:01.600 And his color commentary is second to none.

00:23:05.960 He has more numbers than I do.

00:23:07.200 He's like, Roger's been in this business, Mark.

00:23:11.240 You put mine and your age together, and that's how long Roger's been in this business.

00:23:14.680 I mean, he is a savant.

00:23:16.620 I mean, he really knows what he's talking about.

00:23:19.340 Lou loved him.

00:23:19.960 Lou admired him before he passed away.

00:23:22.320 And I got to know Roger pretty well over the last few years.

00:23:25.760 He's a really – he knows everything.

00:23:28.380 And I'm not saying that facetiously.

00:23:29.640 He really does.

00:23:30.400 He can talk to anything.

00:23:31.540 He's been in this business so long, he can really talk to anything.

00:23:35.980 But this is some scary stuff we're seeing, Mark, tonight with these numbers out of New York.

00:23:41.620 A lot of people I've seen called the race for Momdani.

00:23:44.080 We'll let you know if anyone in credible calls it yet.

00:23:45.940 But there's no way, I think, that Cuomo pulls this thing out or Sliwa or anybody.

00:23:51.380 I think he wins probably by five or six points.

00:23:55.460 I'd be surprised if that's as small a lead.

00:23:58.300 There was one Atlas poll that I think had Momdani up five.

00:24:02.600 Every single other poll had – I think had him at least up ten.

00:24:06.440 And for a while there, he was averaging like 15 or 16.

00:24:10.820 Yes, Sliwa's splitting the vote. 1.00

00:24:12.920 And Cuomo, it's surprising he's doing as well as he is with how bad a candidate he is

00:24:18.260 and the fact that he's running as an independent.

00:24:20.600 And just listening at the registration of Republicans in the city, it's horrifying.

00:24:27.320 They're like ground zero, though, for shipping people in.

00:24:30.680 There's probably overrun with H-1Bs and illegal aliens, and they've been the center of immigration hubs forever. 0.97

00:24:37.780 And I think a lot of the people who might vote their wallets probably commute in from the outside too as well.

00:24:46.720 So it's – and unfortunately, the Democrat Party is becoming left-er and more insane.

00:24:51.480 This isn't Bill Clinton's Democrat Party anymore.

00:24:53.520 It's Momdani's.

00:24:55.160 Mark, I don't mean to interrupt you, but we've got a race to call here on the Great America show, Rasmussen Reports.

00:25:03.380 The AP is now reporting that Mikey Sherrill will prevail in New Jersey to become the next governor of New Jersey.

00:25:10.680 So it was the long inevitable.

00:25:13.140 I guess I wish we could have had Roger on here to react to it.

00:25:17.420 But I think this is what was coming, Mark.

00:25:21.140 Give me your take on it, what I said to Roger.

00:25:25.220 I believed that Jack was running a national race.

00:25:28.260 He made the same mistake, in my opinion, that Carrie Lake made multiple times.

00:25:31.780 He's running on this main stage where it doesn't matter.

00:25:34.860 You can raise money from out of state.

00:25:36.520 That's fine.

00:25:37.100 But that's only going to get you so far.

00:25:38.720 In the campaign business, Mark, we used to put out lawn signs, right?

00:25:42.880 You drive around, you see people's lawn signs.

00:25:45.000 And I'll remember the last race at work, we had a lawn sign mark on every single person's lawn you could possibly look at.

00:25:50.320 And we said, we're winning.

00:25:52.220 We're winning this race.

00:25:53.420 And someone said, no, you've got to remember, lawn signs don't vote.

00:25:57.200 People vote.

00:25:57.960 And it's the same concept with Jack Cittarelli running this national race, this Fox News-esque race, where he thinks that national TV was going to bring him over the finish line.

00:26:08.360 And it's the complete opposite.

00:26:10.260 What Mamdani ran, that race Mamdani ran, is the race that you've got to run to win. 0.60

00:26:15.180 What's your take on that?

00:26:18.120 Like, I don't know, at a deck plate level, what he could have done better campaigning.

00:26:21.980 But what I can tell you is, like, in my poll, he won with everybody except under 40 voters.

00:26:29.800 When you go on Fox News, you're not reaching under 40 voters.

00:26:33.260 And so maybe he's hoping that more grandmas turn out and that that's what was going to put him over the edge.

00:26:40.700 Yeah, this is the Democrats will turn.

00:26:43.880 You have a presidential election.

00:26:46.400 Republicans think it's existential.

00:26:48.440 They get behind their person.

00:26:49.740 What has to happen?

00:26:51.060 An entire labyrinthian network of volunteers and people just giving it their all and building a movement and fighting an info war on Twitter.

00:27:02.240 All of this blood and mud and sweat goes up against this Democrat machine that is finally honed and will get those people out.

00:27:10.960 And then the right wins an election with just that last bit of grit, like Rocky going up against the Russian guy in Rocky IV. 0.72

00:27:18.460 But then the next election comes around and a bunch of like rudderless stand for nothing establishment Republican types are going up against that same machine and they're going to get wrecked.

00:27:33.780 And so I'm looking at the vote share prediction on Decision Desk HQ and it's got jacked at like 45% to 54, like down nine points.

00:27:45.100 My polling came at six and I was one of the lowest polls.

00:27:48.100 And so the results, like the entire polling industry was to the right of me.

00:27:53.720 So my only conclusion there is that right leaning Trump voting independence completely failed him.

00:28:01.740 Yeah.

00:28:02.420 And he wasn't enough to inspire people.

00:28:05.400 And it's because I think people are worried about the direction of the country.

00:28:10.280 And what is what is the Republican governor ultimately at the end of the day have to do with the direction of the country?

00:28:15.780 Not a hell of a lot.

00:28:16.800 So, yeah, it's just a little stupid things, Mark, that, you know, I heard you joking, saying he's bringing back plastic bags.

00:28:24.800 People to your grocery stores, you don't have to pay for people don't realize, Mark.

00:28:28.860 And this is what I've been trying to get through to people.

00:28:31.900 They started with plastic bags.

00:28:34.060 They started with COVID masks.

00:28:35.700 From COVID masks, it went to vaccines.

00:28:38.060 From COVID vaccines, it went to mandatory COVID vaccines.

00:28:40.560 From that, it went to you go down the laundry list of things, men to women's sports.

00:28:45.680 It's been this cylindrical type system that's been going on now, Mark, for 10 years.

00:28:53.980 So to hear people and I use my sister as an example all the time because she's a radical Democrat. 0.99

00:28:58.860 But to hear my sister terrified living in New York City that Mom Donnie is going to be the mayor. 1.00

00:29:02.960 And I laugh in her face and I say, listen, you thought it was going to end at trannies playing with your daughters in sports. 1.00

00:29:12.380 That was just the appetizer.

00:29:14.160 And I say this all the time because I don't think people, Mark, have opened their eyes to realize how bad the Democratic Party is and how much worse they're going to get.

00:29:24.780 People are not realizing it, Mark.

00:29:26.600 And with Mom Donnie's massive win that is expected to come in the next few minutes or next hour, what do they expect is going to happen?

00:29:34.860 You are going to see prayer rugs in Times Square during Ramadan.

00:29:39.000 You're going to see things like that.

00:29:41.100 So when people come out and say, well, Cuomo's our last chance to save us.

00:29:46.100 Bullshit.

00:29:47.180 You knew this was coming and you helped get to this point.

00:29:50.440 John, put my screen up.

00:29:53.480 Oh, no, I'm scared.

00:29:57.540 The slippery slope is real, friends.

00:30:00.280 It's real.

00:30:01.580 Oh, my goodness.

00:30:02.740 For anyone who's not joining us on audio on the gear of the Great America show, Mark's got a great graphic up here.

00:30:09.780 And it's it's called the slippery slope.

00:30:11.760 And it starts with a gay couple saying, let us get married.

00:30:15.720 And then it goes on to say, bake our cake and then use our pronouns and let teachers use your kids' genders, allow minors to dance for U.S. 0.97

00:30:22.900 and drags. 0.93

00:30:23.800 And then the last one I can't read.

00:30:25.100 But, Mark, it's a perfect depiction of what is happening right now here in America.

00:30:30.260 People think it's a joke.

00:30:31.900 People thought it was a joke to allow.

00:30:34.360 I use this one all the time because I think it's so prevalent because so many of my friends have kids.

00:30:38.760 You have kids.

00:30:39.360 You have daughters.

00:30:41.060 I think it's so prevalent because they're our most vulnerable.

00:30:44.020 And people think it's a joke.

00:30:46.540 The mentally infirm were weaponized against America. 0.95

00:30:54.220 I think you are here because this really kicked off in earnest with COVID.

00:30:59.020 And we track a lot of these things like reparations, for instance, like whether people support that kind of stuff.

00:31:05.100 And the Overton window has been moving left significantly during the Biden administration.

00:31:10.680 And why did that happen?

00:31:12.060 Well, there was the big lie.

00:31:13.880 And you can't believe that.

00:31:15.020 You have to make sure that you correct your brain so that it can't account for the fact that our elections aren't stolen.

00:31:21.860 And then we have to literally put cloth on your face and make you stand away from people and stay inside for a year.

00:31:28.520 And then you have to put people who are exercising their free speech in jail because they're endangering the herd.

00:31:34.820 Like these are the mental tactics that were used on these people.

00:31:38.260 And so you're not going to be able to break that conditioning by giving them a plastic bag back at Walmart.

00:31:44.660 They like it's not even on the same like playing field.

00:31:48.540 And they probably need some kind of major mental shock.

00:31:51.620 And I don't know what that is, but they're very happy Democrats.

00:31:54.460 And they're doing it because they're afraid of Trump voters.

00:31:57.020 They don't like Donald Trump.

00:31:58.140 They literally do think he's a Nazi rapist, whatever.

00:32:00.840 And they're again, the Republicans have no they're still afraid of being miscast by the leftist media.

00:32:09.000 They literally spend all day hiding from taking strong stances.

00:32:13.060 If you talk to a Republican in New Jersey, you're not going to get a lot of substance, I think.

00:32:18.080 Yeah.

00:32:18.540 Yeah.

00:32:19.220 You're absolutely right.

00:32:19.780 We got another race to call here, Mark.

00:32:22.400 It is now being reported by the Associated Press that Zohan Kamwami Mamdani will become the next mayor of New York City.

00:32:30.940 Congratulations, New York.

00:32:32.400 You guys have done it again.

00:32:34.940 You guys are just absolutely brilliant.

00:32:36.780 Every man who voted for him.

00:32:38.540 Congratulations.

00:32:39.220 You guys got what you want.

00:32:40.320 And I'm looking forward to it, Mark.

00:32:43.060 I'm looking forward to it because this is this is what the people want.

00:32:47.040 And I'm a man of the people.

00:32:48.280 You're a man of the people.

00:32:49.500 So let's give them what the people want.

00:32:51.920 You know, Cuomo, I sent you this video the other day, so I'm going to put it up for the audience.

00:32:56.320 But Cuomo, I think, made the perfect pitch, Mark, for everyone to vote for Mamdani. 0.65

00:33:02.260 And let's let's watch it.

00:33:03.960 Zohan Kamwami wins the election.

00:33:06.640 Donald Trump will take over New York City.

00:33:08.920 He will be President Trump and Mayor Trump.

00:33:13.520 He has already said as much.

00:33:16.460 He will say because it'll be the perfect excuse for the president to do what he wants to do,

00:33:23.340 which is seize power and control over New York City, the greatest city in the country, if not the globe.

00:33:30.180 And he will say this this person is a threat to public safety.

00:33:35.680 He's 33 years old.

00:33:37.260 He's never had a job.

00:33:38.620 He's anti-police, anti-business, anti-Semitic.

00:33:41.620 I have to come in to protect New Yorkers.

00:33:44.440 And on what would be Mayor Mandami's election inaugural day, you will see tanks coming down Fifth Avenue with Donald Trump taking a selfie.

00:33:56.860 I like the idea.

00:33:57.940 In front of Trump Tower.

00:33:59.480 And it will be mayhem.

00:34:01.940 Is that fear mongering or is that how realistic this is?

00:34:04.380 It is what President Trump said he will do.

00:34:08.840 And it is what makes total sense for him to do.

00:34:12.620 He sends National Guard into cities.

00:34:15.780 Why?

00:34:16.580 Because he's making a political point.

00:34:19.020 These Democrats don't know how to run these cities. 0.96

00:34:21.860 And they endanger people.

00:34:23.840 And it takes me, Donald Trump, to send in the federal troops to clean up the mess these Democratic lunatics are creating. 1.00

00:34:33.280 That's what the National Guard is about.

00:34:34.700 I've never heard him tell such a truth.

00:34:35.420 They're not really there for any other purpose.

00:34:38.160 It's a political power play.

00:34:40.880 When I was governor, he sent them into 20 cities.

00:34:44.900 He then said, I'm going to send them into New York. 0.66

00:34:47.920 I called him up.

00:34:50.320 We had a conversation.

00:34:52.020 He never sent them into New York.

00:34:54.720 He needs an excuse, a rationale, a raison d'etre to send them someplace.

00:35:01.940 Speaking French now?

00:35:03.040 Portland gave it to him.

00:35:04.300 Chicago gave it to him.

00:35:05.680 L.A. gave it to him.

00:35:07.320 When I was governor, he didn't have it.

00:35:09.600 He is a very tough customer.

00:35:14.420 And you have to be equally as tough or he will roll over you.

00:35:23.620 Mark, when I saw that, I won't tell the audience who I voted for today.

00:35:29.680 But when I saw that, he made the perfect pitch that you need to vote for Donald Trump.

00:35:36.260 So, yeah, tanks in the cities.

00:35:40.100 Only if they look like this, John.

00:35:41.660 Put my screen up.

00:35:44.860 Let's see what Mark's got for us now.

00:35:47.840 Let's see if we can get this up on the terrible.

00:35:50.140 This is the only kind of tank I support in Democrat City.

00:35:54.760 Oh, boy.

00:35:55.900 That's brilliant.

00:35:57.600 Look, the treasure gold bricks.

00:36:01.080 It's the perfect.

00:36:02.380 That's brilliant.

00:36:03.060 Anyone who's been to a Donald Trump hotel or anything knows everything is gold.

00:36:09.340 He made the perfect case, Mark, that New York needs to be federalized.

00:36:14.140 We're letting this socialist Marxist take over this communist.

00:36:18.840 I don't know if you saw it today, but Donald Trump is now back to doing a little trolling with Kathy Hochul with the congestion pricing.

00:36:26.440 He says, I want my transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, to take a long, hard look at this congestion pricing, which is absolute, I mean, absurdity, Mark.

00:36:35.980 You have the highest taxes in any state in America.

00:36:40.080 You have the ridiculously high sales tax.

00:36:43.300 You have easy pass.

00:36:44.600 I mean, you have extremely high gas.

00:36:45.960 And they just want to keep pounding and piling it on.

00:36:48.720 He should not get interfered.

00:36:50.000 He should not interfere at all.

00:36:51.740 No.

00:36:52.040 Donald Trump should only interfere if the life and safety of U.S. citizens is at risk.

00:36:57.960 My advice to Donald Trump is let New York be New York.

00:37:00.680 Let them do their thing and then work behind the scenes to offer tax credits to every corporation in New York to move to a red state.

00:37:07.720 That's the best thing that he could do.

00:37:09.500 Let that city collapse.

00:37:11.220 Pull the rungs out from underneath it as fast as possible in secret.

00:37:14.820 Yeah, you know, I see what you're saying, and I get the point.

00:37:19.940 We say all the time he doesn't have to ever run again.

00:37:22.060 It's up to the next Republican, whoever decides it to be, to go on and take that over.

00:37:27.120 But I don't see how.

00:37:29.540 I mean, the reason I'm kind of sort of happy that Mondani won and doesn't make a difference to what I've said or what I've done on the show.

00:37:36.720 It wasn't moving the vote, even one person.

00:37:39.060 And the reason I'm kind of happy is because I believe that we need Mondani in order to start this healing process.

00:37:44.800 He's going to do whatever he's going to do or he's going to try to do whatever.

00:37:47.440 But I think we need him in order to start the healing process because the way I see it, we've danced around the socialism topic for so long.

00:37:56.000 We've danced around taking on full socialism.

00:37:58.600 People need to experience it in order to know what it really is.

00:38:03.040 These idiots, these blue haired freaks need to understand what socialism is. 1.00

00:38:07.420 Your thoughts.

00:38:09.700 Donald Trump has two and a half years to make New York City look as bad as possible.

00:38:15.220 And that's my I think they're going to run this guy.

00:38:18.080 I think they're going to run Mikey Sherrill.

00:38:19.600 I think they're looking around at their current roster and they find it wanting and they're in R&D mode to try and find a 2028 candidate because I think they're worried they're not going to win the presidency.

00:38:30.080 I think they're not going to have dominion.

00:38:32.080 I think that J.D. Vance is polling pretty well.

00:38:34.600 I think that the Democrats still kind of look like losers nationally as compared to Kamala Harris.

00:38:39.800 And they're still worried that Trump might do a lot of things that are effective.

00:38:42.940 I really do.

00:38:44.040 And he might.

00:38:45.020 Like that's true.

00:38:46.060 And so they're incentivized to do as much damage as possible in 26 and steal whatever they can and take that and throw as much money, as much Chinese laundered money as they can at 2026 and win that no matter what. 0.68

00:39:00.940 And then peach and peach and peach this guy like under undermine the Republicans, blow them up the way the Republicans are blowing themselves up right now.

00:39:07.960 Like the Republicans are literally just handing this to Democrats.

00:39:10.660 It's unbelievable.

00:39:12.280 You know, let's say.

00:39:14.480 Let's take a quick break, Mark.

00:39:15.820 A quick minute long break.

00:39:17.780 Let you get another bottle of water.

00:39:19.780 And let's talk about this on the other side of this break.

00:39:21.920 This new awakening of the Republican Party and some influencers and some members of Congress who are sort of starting to drift away from the MAGA coalition that that built them.

00:39:33.000 Take a quick break here.

00:39:34.380 We'll be right back.

00:39:41.280 Thanks, everyone, for staying with us.

00:39:43.360 The great MyPillow.

00:39:44.280 Did you ever get your order, Mark?

00:39:45.300 Did you place your order?

00:39:47.280 Just two days ago, believe it or not.

00:39:49.660 So, yeah, my stuff's coming.

00:39:51.080 I'm going to start sleeping on it.

00:39:52.360 See what happens.

00:39:53.520 You got Freya in the dog bed because she got the dog bed.

00:39:57.260 Got it in pink.

00:39:58.080 I'm going to get some keys of dream sheets up in here.

00:40:00.780 See how it goes.

00:40:01.760 She is going to absolutely love it.

00:40:03.140 And hope during that commercial break, you got one of your Zin's in.

00:40:06.020 I made Mark try Zin's on a car ride one time, and he thought his mouth was melting.

00:40:14.640 Yeah, it was weird.

00:40:15.800 An interesting phenomena.

00:40:17.160 But for any of you people who have smoked, you know what the need for tobacco is and nicotine is.

00:40:22.640 And you know the need when you need it.

00:40:23.900 And you need it.

00:40:24.400 So, safe smoking alternative.

00:40:27.260 Did they sponsor you, John?

00:40:28.720 I wish they did, but they're a Marxist-run company.

00:40:31.080 Actually, I have a box from Tucker Carlson.

00:40:32.660 He sent me some of his.

00:40:33.800 I've got to try them.

00:40:36.100 I'm sure they're great.

00:40:36.740 Yeah, you got to get on his program, man.

00:40:38.940 Tucker.

00:40:39.540 We'll talk about Tucker in a little bit because he's been having an interesting time and the people going after him.

00:40:44.800 Actually, I want to get that clip up of Mark Levin, who's absolutely losing his mind.

00:40:48.700 But first of all, let's talk about this kid who's taking the Internet by storm.

00:40:52.660 He goes by the name of Brian Hollyhand, who I text Mark every single day and tell him it's his adopted son.

00:41:00.340 But it's this kid who's taken over the Internet by storm, pretty much going on college campuses,

00:41:07.440 doing these speaking things.

00:41:09.080 And last week, he goes on a tour and says that America is pretty much a melting pot

00:41:12.380 and we need to allow in as many migrants as possible.

00:41:15.340 But now he puts out this video today.

00:41:17.360 And this is what scares me about the future of the Republican Party.

00:41:20.340 There's a cancerous ideology spreading on the right from a small but loud group I call the woke right.

00:41:25.960 They scream hate and pretend it's courage.

00:41:28.040 Here's the problem, though.

00:41:29.140 The left didn't disavow their cancerous ideology years ago when the squad was just a radical fringe having most conferences.

00:41:34.640 And now that loud minority grew into their base and that movement is about to elect a socialist to run America's biggest city.

00:41:40.460 If we don't call out our own in the name of winning elections, this fringe will drag our party off a cliff like the squad did to the left.

00:41:48.880 I refuse to let that happen to us.

00:41:50.680 You can be a bold conservative without being a bitter one.

00:41:53.580 We can call out bad things the Israeli government does without blaming the Jews for every minor inconvenience in our life.

00:41:59.660 Just like we can call out AIPAC for bankrolling American politicians and say that should be banned.

00:42:05.080 Just like we can demand secure borders while getting only the best and brightest in America without banning all legal immigration.

00:42:12.220 I mean, I didn't fight to end the old establishment of the grand old party and kick out the neocons just to replace it with hate.

00:42:19.160 We're supposed to be the party of faith and freedom, not anger and chaos.

00:42:22.600 If we sit on our hands and allow the mainstreaming of people fantasizing rape, idealizing Stalin and proudly saying they're Team Hitler,

00:42:32.560 we don't only lose every single election going forward by legitimizing the lie that the left says we're Hitler Jr.,

00:42:39.000 but we also lose the moral war that conservatives are here to uphold.

00:42:43.700 Hate killed the left.

00:42:44.900 If we're not careful, we're going to be next.

00:42:47.020 And, folks, that's Brylin Hollyhand Mitchell talking about winning elections, never won an election,

00:42:54.060 never worked a campaign in his life, wants to tell us who've done it.

00:42:57.680 I've done it for 15 years.

00:42:58.580 I think my 13-year-old and maybe my 10-year-old could take him.

00:43:03.380 And maybe Ella, Ella, who you just saw, might be able to take him too.

00:43:07.220 She's too cute. 0.99

00:43:08.360 You can't let her near him.

00:43:09.460 But what do you say to this person who thinks they're taking out – now, granted,

00:43:16.700 this kid posted a picture in a private jet like two weeks ago going to a Turning Point USA event that he wasn't even paid to speak at.

00:43:23.520 I mean, there's just so many unanswered questions about this kid who's like making a name now for Republicans.

00:43:30.160 What do you say?

00:43:32.700 The dangerous thing about that screed is that every word was carefully chosen.

00:43:37.920 That was written by a genius.

00:43:39.840 That had every single trick packed into it.

00:43:43.900 I can't even – I would have to go sentence by sentence.

00:43:47.120 First off, there's limited hangout.

00:43:49.220 He said go after AIPAC.

00:43:51.560 So that's limited hangout.

00:43:52.700 That's like, you see, I don't like AIPAC too, that we should stop that.

00:43:56.640 But then he did a perimeter around legal immigration.

00:44:00.620 This kid is an offshoot of the big business wing of the Republican Party.

00:44:04.980 He's an info op.

00:44:06.200 He's trying to steer people back to like the club for growth types.

00:44:12.260 We need to make it a melting pot.

00:44:14.520 It's bad for you, but it's good for our wage costs.

00:44:16.920 You know what I mean?

00:44:17.780 Then what else did he do?

00:44:19.140 He like – first off, he took all of – he took a big old hug around what he calls anti-Semitic hate,

00:44:28.300 which I think he puts his arms pretty wide, and then dumps it all in Nick Fuentes' lap.

00:44:33.380 Well, here's the thing.

00:44:36.440 There are angry men on the right, and they've always been there.

00:44:39.600 They've been there long before Donald Trump was the thing, and they were the first people to get Donald Trump off the ground.

00:44:44.080 And so the idea that you can somehow like ignore that and like stuff it back into a closet, especially in the post-Twitter world, it's not going to work.

00:44:53.840 There's just so many things in there like that.

00:44:56.040 Like he's mentally gatekeeping people.

00:44:58.620 He's trying to define the movement.

00:45:01.020 And like no, it reeks of inauthenticity, and it's not going to work.

00:45:05.560 Like this guy is not going to work.

00:45:07.260 Charlie Kirk worked because he actually believed in the things he said, and you could tell that he had put rational thought behind it.

00:45:13.120 This guy is like – I don't know.

00:45:17.000 Is this what an internal asset looks like?

00:45:19.080 I can't even tell, John.

00:45:21.080 Did you say incel asset?

00:45:25.220 Oh, no.

00:45:26.540 Boom.

00:45:27.360 I was saying.

00:45:28.800 Oh, yes.

00:45:30.480 Oh, John.

00:45:31.960 John, you got to tweet that.

00:45:34.300 No, no, no.

00:45:37.140 Do it.

00:45:37.600 Do it right now.

00:45:38.640 I'll tweet it right now.

00:45:39.720 We're going to roll this video, though, because it sounds –

00:45:42.040 How about incel asset?

00:45:43.820 You got to get it quick before somebody steals it.

00:45:46.300 I'm going to get it out.

00:45:47.360 But I want to – before we roll that out, I want to get to this video because it sounds – he's speaking like a 75-year-old man.

00:45:54.200 Not that there's anything wrong with 75-year-old men.

00:45:56.220 I love them.

00:45:57.200 But he's talking like he's a 75-year-old man trying to take the Republican Party back.

00:46:01.700 The thing that I want to know, Mark, that – and this might get taken out of context, and I hope it doesn't – but what is anti-Semitism?

00:46:09.720 And to me, it seems anti-Semitism has morphed into something that is pretty much anything you say, speak out against the Israeli government, AIPAC, or any sort of mishap that's happening in that country.

00:46:21.880 Not the people, not the people, but the problems that are happening in that country makes you anti-Semitic.

00:46:27.900 And it's getting worse and worse and worse because of people like Mark Levin, who did this terrible speech.

00:46:33.880 Hitler admirers, Stalin admirers, Jew-haters, American-haters, Churchill-haters – you're damn right we're going to cancel them and de-platform them.

00:46:43.900 It's called the market system.

00:46:46.320 They don't have a lifetime job like a bureaucrat who we're going to protect.

00:46:51.380 And if they're your friend, there's something wrong with you.

00:46:55.920 No Hitler admirer, Holocaust-denier platformer should be anybody's friend, as a matter of fact.

00:47:04.000 You don't get to wrap your psychotic, mental, unhinged, Nazi, Klan, jihadist bullshit around American patriotism.

00:47:23.300 American patriotism, John.

00:47:25.180 You don't get to claim your MAGA and America first when you're lining up with the Marxists and the Islamists and Hamas and the terrorists. 0.58

00:47:33.300 That's not America first.

00:47:35.380 That's sick.

00:47:37.620 So he ties in there, Mark.

00:47:39.960 He ties in Holocaust-deniers with anyone who's – which is my point I just made. 0.62

00:47:46.100 Anyone who speaks out against the Israeli government with a Holocaust-denier.

00:47:51.220 And, I mean, to do that is extremely reprehensible and extremely irresponsible, in my opinion, for someone like him to know better than that.

00:48:00.480 But this is the new world that we've morphed into, that anything is anti-Semitism.

00:48:05.860 Well, it goes back to Brylin Hollihan and the way he defined what I call woke right.

00:48:11.100 You didn't coin the term, dude.

00:48:12.580 Other people did.

00:48:14.000 And what he – they use that word to define people who they say are woke because they use white identitarianism to undermine the movement.

00:48:23.700 But the problem is the people accusing folks of being white woke right act woke.

00:48:30.260 And that's the problem is that you have this reverse woke right now because they're misusing these terms.

00:48:37.840 They're using woke tactics.

00:48:39.860 They'll say, for instance, with Nick Fuentes, well, he's a Holocaust-denier.

00:48:45.780 How could you listen to him?

00:48:47.080 It's like, how did I listen to him?

00:48:48.400 Well, I went to YouTube and I pressed play.

00:48:50.460 You know what I mean?

00:48:51.240 It's like, I don't know if he denied the Holocaust or not. 0.79

00:48:54.300 Why is it my responsibility to listen to everything this guy says?

00:48:58.000 Oh, well, look at this clip.

00:48:59.040 He denied the Holocaust.

00:48:59.840 Well, like I didn't hear the context and it's not incumbent on me to go listen to him to determine whether it's Holocaust denial or not.

00:49:06.740 And it's like, let's have a nuanced discussion about that.

00:49:10.080 Like, yes, the Holocaust was real. 0.97

00:49:12.000 Yes, probably millions of Jews got killed.

00:49:14.160 But you're not even allowed to, like, literally discuss the facts.

00:49:17.260 And so what happens is angry young men who see a psychological operation are going to push against the boundaries.

00:49:24.360 That's what young men do.

00:49:25.240 They have risk taking behavior.

00:49:27.540 And so Nick Fuentes did not build this movement.

00:49:30.860 He took advantage of a movement that has been literally trodden on by the entire world.

00:49:36.220 Angry young white men. 0.79

00:49:38.800 And the fact that he's really popular now means that the angry young men are more pissed than they were just five years ago.

00:49:46.000 If you look at search trend volume, Nick Fuentes just passed Ben Shapiro.

00:49:51.840 Wow.

00:49:52.480 It's really incredible.

00:49:54.340 Nick Fuentes is now more searched on Google than Ben Shapiro is freaking self.

00:49:59.260 And put my screen up, John.

00:50:00.940 You're talking about Mark Levin.

00:50:02.900 This is unbelievable.

00:50:03.640 Oh, this is because for the show, I think.

00:50:06.360 Let me see.

00:50:07.300 Yeah.

00:50:07.380 The young people are going to win this fight.

00:50:09.080 Mark Levin.

00:50:09.680 You are the legacy Republican Party.

00:50:11.960 Your kind of Republicanism is dying out.

00:50:15.120 Do I want it replaced with Nazis? 0.98

00:50:17.060 No, I do not.

00:50:18.160 Do I think Nick Fuentes is a Nazi?

00:50:19.960 Well, I think he likes Nazis, but he's not a member of the German National Socialist Party.

00:50:24.940 You know what I mean?

00:50:25.640 Like, let's be very specific with our terms because they are not.

00:50:29.660 I was called a Nazi because I won't disavow Candace Owens.

00:50:32.460 And I don't even watch her shows.

00:50:33.960 Why do I have to disavow Candace Owens to make you feel better about Israel?

00:50:38.300 It doesn't make any sense.

00:50:39.940 But he says, Fuentes.

00:50:40.920 And how did he respond, John?

00:50:43.420 Fuentes, if that is his name, looks like I got under prepubescent little Adolf's unpure quasi white skin. 0.84

00:50:52.120 He's illiterate, incoherent brain farts.

00:50:54.340 And he's not incoherent.

00:50:55.920 He's very intelligent.

00:50:57.440 Exited the wrong end of his dwarf like body. 1.00

00:50:59.820 But he does have his committed following of gropers.

00:51:03.720 He really should replace that funeral like suit with the brown shirt like a good Nazi. 0.96

00:51:08.240 As for deportation, given his mixed background, like what?

00:51:12.840 He would qualify for expulsion to a number of third world countries where he could crawl back to his little dark hole like the cockroach he is. 1.00

00:51:20.340 Psycho bastard.

00:51:21.000 So this is like a 70 year old wealthy legacy Republican punching down on a 27 year old kid.

00:51:28.260 A Hispanic kid.

00:51:30.360 Yes.

00:51:30.740 With white identitarianism and racist remarks.

00:51:34.780 He met anti-Semitism with racism.

00:51:37.560 And look at this ratio.

00:51:39.840 This is a very young post.

00:51:42.040 This is like two and a half hours old now.

00:51:44.020 No, three and a half hours old.

00:51:46.540 Mark Levin got 1500 likes.

00:51:49.400 Nick Fuentes, 39,000.

00:51:51.940 Oh, I better unlike that.

00:51:53.200 30, 39,000.

00:51:56.020 All he wrote was, are you OK?

00:51:57.320 Hey, Nick Fuentes is winning this fight.

00:52:00.860 And yes, he needs to clean up his message.

00:52:03.060 Yes, he shouldn't have said those things.

00:52:05.040 But he's not going away.

00:52:06.420 He's only getting bigger.

00:52:07.280 And the Republicans have no idea.

00:52:09.380 No idea at all how to handle this.

00:52:11.860 Yeah.

00:52:12.200 Nick Fuentes.

00:52:12.700 I don't watch him.

00:52:14.500 I don't know him.

00:52:15.360 I've seen some of his stuff on Twitter.

00:52:16.900 I don't know.

00:52:17.380 Like I said, I've seen one interview.

00:52:19.460 Right.

00:52:19.880 It was with Tucker Carlson, as they like to call him.

00:52:22.680 Never seen the kid.

00:52:23.500 Never met the kid.

00:52:24.220 I don't know anything about him.

00:52:25.400 But I see his clips.

00:52:26.300 And I mean, that's what makes America America and not North Korea. 0.60

00:52:30.960 The fact that you have that on the internet to make your own determinations on who's credible

00:52:36.400 to follow and who's not.

00:52:37.540 And everyone likes different things.

00:52:38.940 Mark, I love sports.

00:52:40.360 You hate sports.

00:52:41.800 You're not a anti-semi, Mark, because you don't like sports.

00:52:45.640 It's just it's gotten to be so crazy.

00:52:48.360 And Tucker Carlson, now they're going after him.

00:52:50.180 And they're not going to win the fight against Tucker Carlson.

00:52:52.460 He's self-funded.

00:52:53.840 He has all the money in the world.

00:52:55.340 Nobody's going to cancel him.

00:52:56.520 Nobody's going to de-platform him.

00:52:57.840 So this is a losing battle.

00:53:00.200 And you know they're losing when they go after it with the personal name calling and all that

00:53:04.660 stupid stuff that the Democrats and these brown high hands start doing. 1.00

00:53:11.580 You know you're losing it when you cannot debate substance.

00:53:15.700 Debate Tucker on substance.

00:53:17.700 What did he say that you disagree with?

00:53:19.420 When you generalize and you broadly call someone an anti-Semite and they're owned by 0.73

00:53:24.920 Qatar, it dilutes it down, Mark, to everything they said about us Trump supporters in 2016

00:53:30.380 that we were the, quote, deplorables, right?

00:53:33.220 Yeah.

00:53:34.080 That and their very thin gruel, like this Qatar stuff. 1.00

00:53:38.240 Let's be real.

00:53:39.620 Both Qatar and Israel do fund influencers.

00:53:42.540 100%.

00:53:42.980 I've heard personal stories of people who have been literally approached by people from

00:53:46.480 both countries.

00:53:47.180 They do it a little different.

00:53:48.600 They're each a little different.

00:53:50.180 But if you and this isn't me, just ask Grok.

00:53:53.700 Just say, be objective as possible and compare all the monetary and non-monetary ways that

00:53:58.140 both Israel and the Jewish people and Qatar influence American politics.

00:54:03.700 And Grok will say they both influence it a lot.

00:54:06.200 But Israel influences it much more for a whole bunch of sociological reasons.

00:54:10.120 And then you can ask it to quantify that.

00:54:13.440 But with Tucker specifically, they say, well, his flight got paid for.

00:54:19.340 It's like, okay, the dude's worth like two, 300 million.

00:54:22.800 Or they'll say, well, Qatar funded his business.

00:54:26.880 And it's like, from what I've seen, he took investments from multiple people.

00:54:31.480 One of them was one of the royal family dudes.

00:54:33.580 He paid him back with interest and he has a business.

00:54:36.980 I didn't even know he took money from a royal family.

00:54:39.500 He took money from Neil Patel, who was his business partner, who started The Daily Caller

00:54:43.300 with him, who Tucker's known since he's 18 years old.

00:54:45.840 The other guy he took money from runs a multinational corporation here in America.

00:54:50.220 I think he went to Colgate University, born in America, raised in America, went to school

00:54:53.560 in America.

00:54:54.380 So their points are totally moot.

00:54:55.620 They want to call people anti-Semites.

00:54:57.380 Well, what are you when you go based on someone who's an Arab or someone who's Muslim?

00:55:02.640 I mean, that's like the connotation that all Muslims are bad people and all Arab people

00:55:07.360 want to kill us. 0.82

00:55:08.180 I mean, it was stupid back when people started saying it back then.

00:55:12.040 And it's so stupid now.

00:55:13.740 And I mean, it's just extremely irresponsible.

00:55:16.700 I'm sure some people would disagree with me on that, but it's totally irresponsible.

00:55:20.020 I mean, it's the same way of profiling someone based on the skin of their color.

00:55:23.180 Nobody does that shit here in America.

00:55:24.720 OK, it hasn't been done here since the 1950s.

00:55:27.740 And it's never going back to that way.

00:55:30.100 But somehow the IDF does it in airports, though, I guarantee you 100 percent.

00:55:35.380 But, you know, all I'm saying is we need things have gotten so bad in America that we need

00:55:41.740 to be able to have difficult conversations.

00:55:43.860 And we need a place where we can be nuanced enough to say, I don't hate Muslims, but I hate 1.00

00:55:49.640 radical Islam.

00:55:51.220 Yes.

00:55:51.460 And I don't mind them having a religion, but I would like to convert them to Christianity. 0.99

00:55:57.360 And yet I don't think we should have Sharia law here. 0.99

00:56:00.580 That's a very nuanced conversation.

00:56:02.340 And I think that those are very reasonable takes.

00:56:04.660 But you're not allowed to have that about certain other countries.

00:56:07.280 You're just not.

00:56:08.880 And Brylin Hollyhand, like said, one of the things.

00:56:12.880 Right.

00:56:13.060 But it's like, well, then we're going to form a unified front because we need to be this.

00:56:18.000 It's the gatekeeping.

00:56:18.980 And the Republican Party needs to be this because this is what I say we stand for.

00:56:23.060 Well, it's like, OK, you're going to lose the election.

00:56:26.580 Yeah.

00:56:26.940 You know, my best friend, Mark, is Muslim.

00:56:28.940 He's an Albanian Muslim.

00:56:29.880 I've been best friends with him since I'm 12 years old.

00:56:31.880 And his family, I've went away on family vacations with him since I'm a kid.

00:56:35.920 He's my best friend till the day I die.

00:56:37.780 He'll be my best friend.

00:56:39.200 He doesn't buy any of this stuff.

00:56:40.580 He doesn't.

00:56:41.140 And you know what?

00:56:41.560 He doesn't even get offended by any of it because he knows that there's factions inside

00:56:45.700 of the Muslim community.

00:56:46.520 Like there's factions inside of every single organizational group here in America and overseas.

00:56:52.820 I mean, if a Christian person shoots up a school, Mark, we don't go out there and generalize

00:56:57.000 and say all Christians are bad people because they're not. 0.98

00:56:59.580 If a Muslim commits a crime, we don't say they're all bad. 0.99

00:57:02.860 If a Jew commits a crime, we don't go out and say all this bad.

00:57:05.420 You can't have rules one way that don't work the opposite way.

00:57:10.000 And I feel like we've morphed into this society now, Mark, where it's if you're a Muslim, you're 0.95

00:57:14.220 bad.

00:57:14.600 If you're a Jew, you can't do anything wrong.

00:57:16.700 If you're a Christian, you're marginal. 1.00

00:57:18.340 You may go shoot up a school.

00:57:19.440 You may not.

00:57:20.240 And as a Christian myself, I'm like, how like how is this now the new goalpost?

00:57:27.060 Well, if you did, they would blame it on the religion and not the SSRIs.

00:57:31.380 We all know that because they make money on the SSRIs.

00:57:34.560 But there is one carve out.

00:57:35.880 I will say that the tranny thing does really worry me, the tranny shooters. 1.00

00:57:40.400 But we need to be able to have a nuanced discussion because that used to be classified as a mental

00:57:47.180 disorder, which it's probably limits your ability to have weapons.

00:57:51.860 And they change that, which I don't get, but it's like there's a very specific aspect of

00:57:57.680 like, you know, mental health that is worrying.

00:58:00.680 And that's not because of identitarianism.

00:58:03.980 It's because when you have situations like this, you have to be pragmatic about the numbers

00:58:08.100 as, in my opinion, J.D.

00:58:10.500 Vance is giving everybody a masterclass in how to do that.

00:58:14.240 Yeah.

00:58:14.560 You know, you made the face.

00:58:17.140 We'll talk about it on the other side of this quick break.

00:58:19.040 Let's take one more quick break.

00:58:19.960 On the other side, we're going to be joined by a friend of ours.

00:58:21.860 Professor Nicholas Giordano, we're going to get back into a little bit of politics in

00:58:25.400 some of these races, but we're not done with this conversation yet, folks.

00:58:28.300 Please stay with us.

00:58:30.040 We're talking with Mark Mitchell.

00:58:31.600 We're on Rasmussen Reports' streams.

00:58:33.380 We're on the Great America Show streams.

00:58:34.860 We're coming right back, folks.

00:58:36.180 The poll party is just getting started, and it's P-O-L-L party.

00:58:40.760 We'll be right back.

00:58:47.400 Thanks, everybody, for staying with myself and the great Mark Mitchell.

00:58:49.980 So, it seems Mark's still giggling about something that was said over the break.

00:58:53.660 I'm not entirely sure what it was.

00:58:56.440 I'm saying the replies to Mark Levin, man.

00:58:58.680 They're just like so elite.

00:59:00.240 I can't even tell them.

00:59:01.360 So, while we were in break, Mark, some more races were called.

00:59:06.120 It's now being reported that Jay Jones would become the next Attorney General of Virginia.

00:59:09.880 That was the fellow who wanted the MAGAites dead.

00:59:11.740 So, it looks like a queen sweep of the Marxist Dems.

00:59:16.480 Let's bring in our pal and our friend, Professor Nicholas Giordano, host of the PAS Report.

00:59:22.860 Sir, how are you doing tonight?

00:59:25.020 I might need one of those pillows, because I don't know if I'm going to get a good night's sleep after what I'm witnessing so far.

00:59:31.160 Certainly not a good night for Republicans.

00:59:33.660 Some of it was predictable.

00:59:35.360 Some surprises.

00:59:36.220 I mean, the Dems, who would have thought that they would go out and vote in droves for a person that advocated the killing of their political opponent and their children as well?

00:59:46.820 You know, you look at the dynamics.

00:59:49.280 I think I'm disappointed with Cittarelli.

00:59:51.860 I thought that he might have had a slim shot to win the governor's race there.

00:59:55.960 I thought that was our best chance.

00:59:58.260 I'm not surprised with Abigail Spanberger winning.

01:00:01.480 Winsome Sears has been down.

01:00:03.100 Rasmussen has been showing the polls.

01:00:04.880 She's been down quite a bit for a long time.

01:00:08.540 And Virginia has, as government has expanded, as the federal bureaucracy has expanded, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security.

01:00:16.560 Notice, Virginia has gone blue.

01:00:18.760 The more federal bureaucrats in the Washington, D.C., Virginia, Maryland area, the more blue it becomes.

01:00:24.480 So that wasn't something that was unpredictable.

01:00:27.180 And then New York, I mean, you know, let's face it.

01:00:30.660 New York is the only thing that's shocking is Donnie had an overwhelming victory.

01:00:37.660 OK, everyone was saying that the polls were tightening up.

01:00:40.560 But this is what happens when Republicans surrender areas to Democrats and end up telling their people to vote for a governor who was thoroughly rejected and left the party, the governorship in disgrace.

01:00:55.680 And they backstabbed their own candidate.

01:00:58.280 So it's not surprising to see Momdani have the victory he does in New York.

01:01:04.500 Mr. Polster, before we turn it over to you, I just want to go through some of these numbers that we've got in here just to get your reaction on where we're at in these races.

01:01:12.400 With 88 percent of the vote in New York, Momdani's up 50.3.

01:01:16.920 We'll call it 50 percent to 42 percent on Cuomo, 7 percent for Curtis Sliwa.

01:01:22.160 In the Virginia's governor's race with 88 percent of the vote, I mean, a molly whopping 57 percent for Versus Boutenberg to Winston Sears is 43 percent.

01:01:32.200 And then looking over at the New Jersey governor's race, I mean, absolutely getting murdered.

01:01:37.700 83 percent of the vote in 56 percent to 43 percent.

01:01:42.340 I hacked into your computer last week when you weren't around and I saw some polling that you were doing that showed this was going to happen.

01:01:50.840 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:51.300 I mean, it came down to turnout.

01:01:53.260 The number said that my number said Jack was going to lose by six.

01:01:57.380 But when I told you, you were crazy.

01:01:59.520 Yeah, right.

01:02:00.240 So if you look at very likely voters and other pollsters that use very likely screen, it was a much closer race like Jack down one.

01:02:09.240 And I don't know where the ball is going to stop.

01:02:11.320 Like it could tighten up.

01:02:13.040 It could actually wind up being exactly six.

01:02:17.020 But it's so hard to predict turnout here because basically you can't believe anything anybody says on the poll anymore.

01:02:22.160 And the Democrats are like coming out to own drunk like they are still doing that, in my opinion.

01:02:27.180 And also, it's like there's this idea.

01:02:30.280 I don't think everybody's really come to terms with how much Trump won with crossover Democrats and with independents that just don't feel the need to come out when Republicans are on the ticket.

01:02:40.300 This is the same story with the special elections back in the spring.

01:02:43.220 And they're going to continue to lose until they have good answers because right now they're just governing like Republicans and people wanted to change and they're not getting a change.

01:02:51.280 I think this is going to happen over and over again.

01:02:53.420 And it's going to drive the country into the arms of Democrat socialists because the Democrats are moving left at breakneck speeds.

01:03:00.340 And the right is kind of just like being its same old stupid right.

01:03:04.740 Then you have to change.

01:03:06.400 Nick, I want to get your take on this because I've been following the Virginia race really closely.

01:03:10.660 And I've met with some serious and I've spoken with her on the show many times.

01:03:14.120 And she's what I embody is someone who's a country club Republican, someone who's just a good old establishment, doesn't want to rock the boat.

01:03:24.020 Do you think that that's a part of the reason why she performed so poorly in this Virginia race, looking like she's probably going to lose by somewhere in the margin of seven to eight, maybe 10 points?

01:03:33.520 You know, not embodying what President Trump won Virginia on, which was the America first agenda.

01:03:44.280 Well, I think that partly explains it to a certain degree.

01:03:47.480 But I think something that a lot of Republicans downplayed and even mocked and made fun of was the no Kings rally from a few weeks ago.

01:03:55.440 And I was actually warning Republicans that, hey, when you have people turning out for protests, especially one as lame as that, they're going to vote.

01:04:06.300 OK, they're going to go to the poll and they're going to vote.

01:04:09.780 They're energized.

01:04:10.420 And it's a new dynamic because, let's face it, at the no Kings rally, it was mostly old people, old people who are supposed to lean Republican, old people who are supposed to lean conservative.

01:04:21.520 And yet they're voting.

01:04:23.340 They're protesting at this no Kings rally.

01:04:25.580 So is an eye opener.

01:04:26.620 And I think that Republicans are underestimating.

01:04:30.760 First of all, they always perform poorly when Trump's not on the ticket, when he's not running for office.

01:04:35.420 And they've got to figure out why is there no enthusiasm for Republicans when Trump's not on the ticket?

01:04:41.660 But also, I think it's Republicans have failed.

01:04:44.420 I mean, let's be honest here.

01:04:46.080 They haven't introduced a single bill to dismantle the bureaucracy.

01:04:50.420 They haven't introduced a single bill that takes power away from the FISA court.

01:04:54.880 They haven't introduced a single bill that really introduces fiscal responsibility.

01:05:00.700 All the things Republicans campaign on, they never actually introduced the bills that would accomplish that.

01:05:07.780 And a lot of Republicans get turned off.

01:05:10.620 And independents, too, let's face it.

01:05:12.440 I know a lot of independents that the only issue they care about is fiscal responsibility.

01:05:17.620 That's it.

01:05:18.440 And they support Republicans.

01:05:19.700 But when they see Republicans campaign on fiscal responsibility and then the budget expands, we only spend more money.

01:05:27.160 Well, they just say, well, what's the point?

01:05:28.760 I could vote for Democrats or I could just stay home.

01:05:31.480 I'll just stay home.

01:05:32.260 So I think Republicans really need to get back to the core identity of fiscal responsibility, limited government starting to rein in the bureaucracy, returning power to the people and the states.

01:05:43.040 And let New York City be the test case, because Momdani is now the face of the Democrat Party.

01:05:49.620 Let's be honest here.

01:05:51.040 You had President Obama.

01:05:52.860 You had Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority all come to kiss the ring of Momdani.

01:05:56.980 So now the progressives are emboldened.

01:05:59.640 They believe that they run that party.

01:06:02.160 Let Momdani be the face of it.

01:06:04.140 Let him implement his agenda.

01:06:05.820 And let's see how voters react to New York City's rapid decline.

01:06:12.940 Mark.

01:06:15.280 Yeah, I mean, I think that the Republicans got a gift, which was Donald Trump's America first platform.

01:06:22.620 And it was a wake up call, in my opinion, that they have not heeded.

01:06:25.900 And I agree with you on the idea of, like, fiscal responsibility and limited government.

01:06:30.820 But when you look at the under 40s, even the ones that voted for Donald Trump, they're not conservative at all.

01:06:36.280 And people like to convince themselves they are.

01:06:38.740 They're actually super socialist.

01:06:40.040 And if they don't see the system burned down, I think that they're going to go into the arms of democratic socialism.

01:06:45.460 If you look at New York, the young people just love this Momdani guy.

01:06:48.480 And I think the Democrats are shrewd.

01:06:50.880 They know that they can recreate an Obama type movement by capturing the zeal of young people.

01:06:56.060 And so it's literally going to be socialism on the ballot.

01:06:59.140 And the Republican Party is not going to win if it's like, well, capitalism's the better system.

01:07:04.800 What's like?

01:07:05.460 No, your capitalism kind of screwed over America.

01:07:07.920 Like these people, these young kids can't get jobs and their health care is super expensive.

01:07:12.080 And you didn't really help them with that.

01:07:14.140 You ship their jobs overseas and you haven't really like busted down on the corporations and done antitrust, like the kind of stuff you would expect Republicans.

01:07:22.640 Like, I mean, they they have to offer a better economic system than the one that we currently have.

01:07:28.680 And they're not doing it like Trump is.

01:07:30.780 But Trump's not going to be on the ticket anymore.

01:07:32.580 And hopefully J.D. Vance, like he's polling really well.

01:07:35.660 I think he's the only one really that has a shot.

01:07:37.660 But the idea that they're going to be able to like put Ted Cruz or Ron DeSantis on the ticket and go up against Momdani. 0.88

01:07:43.180 The young people are going to usher this guy in on like in a parade with ticker tape like that's where we're at.

01:07:51.240 Everybody wants economic populism, literally except the Republican donor class.

01:07:55.800 Yeah.

01:07:56.800 Yeah.

01:07:58.200 Before I get your reaction, Mark, we brought up such a good point.

01:08:02.200 I know so many people, so many young people, college kids, kids who are just out of college who voted for Trump because they liked what he was selling.

01:08:08.680 They like the young idea.

01:08:10.080 They like that he tried to bring everyone to the table.

01:08:12.640 The young, he went to colleges, he went to college football games.

01:08:15.800 You know, he was this boomer who was out there energizing kids and, you know, kids were walking around college campuses with Trump hats.

01:08:23.320 I mean, you had guys in the NFL, guys in college football doing the Trump dance.

01:08:27.040 I don't care what Mark says.

01:08:28.360 I like J.D. Vance, but J.D. Vance is not going to.

01:08:31.220 Marco Rubio is not going to.

01:08:33.080 Tulsi, whoever the nominee is, is not going to be able to fire up people.

01:08:37.580 And to second that, nobody's going to be able to go up on a debate stage and say that they only called Rosie O'Donnell a fat pig and got away with it.

01:08:46.060 So people don't realize the tides that Donald Trump brought in and a rising tide rises all boats.

01:08:53.800 But when that tide goes out with Donald Trump, the Republican Party is going to lose a hell of a lot of support.

01:09:01.320 Professor, what do you say?

01:09:03.640 Well, it's because they don't have a plan.

01:09:05.180 I mean, let's face it.

01:09:06.180 I saw this in the 2022 election.

01:09:08.540 Right.

01:09:08.800 That was supposed to be a red wave.

01:09:10.520 All the Republicans were confident about a red wave.

01:09:13.080 And in September of that year, I saw that no Republican was really talking about education.

01:09:18.760 No Republican was going into communities that the Republicans long ignored, saying the Democrats did this to your children, that they destroyed your children.

01:09:27.820 They kept your children socially isolated for two years.

01:09:30.680 That led to a rampant mental health crisis.

01:09:33.860 And they never played that card.

01:09:36.340 Why?

01:09:37.040 Because they're dumb.

01:09:37.960 I mean, let's be honest here.

01:09:39.020 The Republican leadership is just plain and simple.

01:09:41.980 They're stupid.

01:09:42.560 They don't talk about the issues that ordinary Americans care about.

01:09:46.620 Like, where is the outrage that we spend one point four trillion dollars a year, local, state, federal government spending combined on education?

01:09:54.420 And yet we rank 26th in the world.

01:09:56.960 Standards have been dropped routinely.

01:10:00.260 Students can't read them right at grade level.

01:10:02.400 Yet Republicans don't make an issue out of it.

01:10:04.340 Well, why not?

01:10:05.300 Why don't Republicans make an issue that a whole bunch of college kids were lied to? 0.92

01:10:09.180 They were told that if they go to college and get this piece of paper, that they're going to have a great career.

01:10:14.260 We created this myth that the only pathway to success in life is through a college education.

01:10:19.540 And students took out all these loans, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars.

01:10:24.120 And now they're working as a store clerk somewhere.

01:10:27.040 So instead of taking the fight to the university saying you need to do away with useless degree programs like gender studies or Caribbean studies, they just remain silent on it.

01:10:36.100 When you look at home ownership, and this is the first generation that I'm aware of that that believes that their lives are going to be worse off than the previous generation.

01:10:46.380 That's not the way it's supposed to be in America.

01:10:48.400 And when you have the cost of housing, the average house at 400, 450, $500,000, that seems unattainable, especially when you made them take out $150,000 in student loans that they still can't afford to pay back.

01:11:03.180 So Republicans need to get into those issues, but they don't.

01:11:08.340 Instead, you hear, like Mark said, you hear the same old tired talking points of the Republicans rather than speak to the issues that people actually care about.

01:11:19.160 And let's be honest, it's not just young people, right?

01:11:21.920 It's people in their 40s and 50s that are also struggling, that also have a difficult time in how expensive things have gotten.

01:11:30.420 I mean, I was talking to my wife the other day, and I was saying, you know, Trump really needs to bring down those food prices because every week we feel it when we go to a grocery store and we make a good living.

01:11:40.660 It's not like where pop is out there, but we feel the crunch.

01:11:44.420 And until you inject that economic optimism, until you show young voters, middle-aged voters, that there is hope, that America's days are brighter, that they're not going to vote for you.

01:11:56.580 And I think without Trump on the ticket, it really is going to create problems for Republicans if they don't get to their act together.

01:12:03.720 And I will give either of you 10 bucks.

01:12:06.940 We'll make it easy.

01:12:08.040 Who could remember Kevin McCarthy's plan for America when he announced it in 2022?

01:12:14.880 What was it called?

01:12:16.220 I wasn't paying attention.

01:12:18.620 Exactly.

01:12:19.020 Right?

01:12:20.260 Like, we could still refer back to Newt Gingrich.

01:12:22.720 Nobody believed it would have happened anyways.

01:12:25.240 Well, I'm just saying, we could still refer back to the contract with America that Newt Gingrich put forward.

01:12:30.720 It was memorable.

01:12:31.620 It had actionable items.

01:12:33.080 It had items that people cared about.

01:12:35.220 And that's why Gingrich was successful.

01:12:38.300 I don't remember a single thing.

01:12:39.480 Nobody believes in Republicans.

01:12:40.440 There's no goodwill there.

01:12:41.520 They literally look at lying old.

01:12:43.760 There's an age aspect here that I think we're only really starting to come to terms with.

01:12:47.940 And I think there's like a divide.

01:12:49.960 It kind of, like you said, the 50-year mark where it's like people who spend all day online versus people who don't, who still listen to Fox News.

01:12:57.200 And they're going to increasingly disagree on the future of the country.

01:13:00.600 We're seeing it play out in real time on Israel right now.

01:13:04.660 And, yeah, the Republicans are definitely stuck in this sort of like old aspect.

01:13:10.020 And they were the ones that caused this problem.

01:13:12.260 Like, I'm an honest pollster, so I'm doing a hell of a lot worse than you.

01:13:15.820 And, like, groceries are really bad.

01:13:17.360 But here's the thing.

01:13:18.580 Like, we both know that they can't really reduce prices.

01:13:22.080 Like, maybe they can nibble at, like, the meat price.

01:13:24.280 Maybe they can do this.

01:13:24.980 Maybe they can do that.

01:13:26.060 The one way that they could fix this really, really, really rapidly is to fix the wage issue, to make the job market overheat.

01:13:34.500 Because I'm old enough to remember when Obama said that coal miners should learn to code.

01:13:38.720 And I think that if we got rid of 2.6 million foreign nationals who are here on visas who are taking all of our engineering jobs, that our biggest national project could be teaching 2.6 million people in the Gen Z to code so they could afford houses. 1.00

01:13:54.360 And, yes, the wages will go up.

01:13:56.200 Yes, that's bad for business.

01:13:57.720 Yes, the cost of labor increases.

01:13:59.460 And, yes, those are all the Republican donors.

01:14:02.500 But I haven't heard a single person even hint at that direction, except for J.D. Vance.

01:14:07.480 But at the same time, we're also going to see that civil war emerge in the Democrat Party.

01:14:12.660 I mean, I have little doubt that you have Congresswoman AOC is really going to challenge Senator Schumer for his seat, and she will win that primary.

01:14:20.680 And I think that as screwed up as the Republicans are, Democrats are even more screwed up.

01:14:27.640 And, unfortunately, that's, like, the only saving grace by default.

01:14:32.360 Yeah, the only problem is people feel good voting for Democrats.

01:14:35.820 That's the only problem.

01:14:36.680 Well, they felt good voting for Trump.

01:14:39.140 The only problem with the AOC thing, a lot of people don't realize, yeah, that's fine.

01:14:42.220 You'll trade out AOC for Schumer.

01:14:43.840 But they're one of 100.

01:14:45.080 And in Congress, in the House, they're one of 435.

01:14:47.700 They really can't do much on their own.

01:14:49.580 And with this filibuster, it's really a nonsense job.

01:14:53.100 The things you have to do.

01:14:54.500 Well, my point was that you're seeing the progressive wing has taken over the Democratic Party.

01:15:00.720 It's now the Democratic Socialist Party of America.

01:15:03.460 100%.

01:15:04.360 I wouldn't even say America.

01:15:05.640 I'd say Uganda. 0.68

01:15:06.340 But what's happening is, what people don't realize, before we go into that, how about we look at something a little bit more granular?

01:15:15.020 How about cleaning up the streets and the drugs?

01:15:17.060 That's something that everyone could resonate with.

01:15:19.820 Not having to walk down the street and walk past a homeless guy who smells like piss.

01:15:23.040 Not having to walk down the street and watch a guy shoot up Trank or watch a guy overdose on the side of the street.

01:15:27.560 We can start with that.

01:15:28.680 But New York City just voted to have that happen.

01:15:30.900 So this is what people are going to get now.

01:15:33.920 But going back to what you said about AOC in the Senate, what people don't realize is it's more of a granular level issue that the New York State Assembly, the New York City Council, has more power in the state and city of New York than does AOC as a senator or one of two senators in New York.

01:15:50.660 And that's the thing that people don't realize.

01:15:52.280 And that's the thing that these politicians don't realize.

01:15:54.820 They want to skip the steps.

01:15:56.100 They want to overlook the city council.

01:15:58.020 Let those people stay there for their eight-year terms. 0.99

01:16:00.000 The State Assembly, I don't even think there is any – there may be a term limit in the State Assembly.

01:16:04.840 It's the other one in New York where there's no term limits.

01:16:07.880 And these people sit there for 100 years.

01:16:10.080 Why are they not looking?

01:16:11.300 Why is the Republican Party not looking to take over state legislators where it really matters?

01:16:16.020 Tonight we saw the Pennsylvania –

01:16:17.660 Because the party bosses want to keep their positions.

01:16:20.220 They don't care about winning or losing elections.

01:16:22.500 I understand.

01:16:23.120 But this is something that should be a top-down decision from President Trump.

01:16:27.160 President Trump should have delegates or J.D. Vance.

01:16:29.360 That's not how he works.

01:16:30.820 That's not how it works, John.

01:16:32.140 That's what has to be done in order to save these states.

01:16:35.000 We just watched the Pennsylvania Supreme Court now overwhelmingly be reelected Democrat in Pennsylvania tonight.

01:16:40.740 So what does that mean, Mark?

01:16:41.720 That means in 2028, when there's a problem with a damn ballot, it goes to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court and they tell them you don't have a standing.

01:16:47.920 That's the big picture that people aren't understanding, that a big picture boils down to the small picture.

01:16:52.800 And the small picture is we've got to start looking at these city councils and these state legislators if we want to make a change, Mark.

01:16:59.480 If you want to do a ratification in this country, it's not going to take Congress to do that.

01:17:04.560 It's going to take the governors of these states. 0.99

01:17:07.500 John, who did everybody pin their hopes on in New Jersey?

01:17:11.800 Everybody was pinning their hopes on one person, Scott Pressler, some guy with a 501 C3.

01:17:18.120 And so that's how low the Republican Party is.

01:17:20.900 They're literally not doing their job so bad that they're hoping other people show up to do their job for them.

01:17:27.940 The precinct strategy.

01:17:29.640 The Republican, the National Republican Party is a donor harvesting organization.

01:17:34.740 That's there to maximize the amount of consulting kickbacks.

01:17:37.840 And they have absolutely no centralized strategy to win.

01:17:40.760 They just do not.

01:17:41.780 Because if they did, they'd be coming to me for polling.

01:17:43.960 Not a single freaking one of them has.

01:17:45.780 I have like two senators offices that have reached out to me ever.

01:17:49.540 Like that's literally it.

01:17:50.900 And we pull more on these issues about the right than literally anybody out there.

01:17:55.360 They do not want to win.

01:17:56.380 They don't give a crap.

01:17:57.820 They will profit just as much in a down market as in an up market.

01:18:02.060 And so it's like, yeah, messy fourth turning.

01:18:05.140 We're in for like a freaking civil war or like a NATO meat grinder.

01:18:08.860 I don't know what to tell you.

01:18:10.180 But it's also the state local GOP's.

01:18:13.080 Right.

01:18:13.420 Because, I mean, President Trump, as president of the United States, can't manage all the local GOP's and the statewide GOP's.

01:18:19.880 And let's be honest, when the GOP's say, well, don't support the Republican candidate that's on the ballot.

01:18:27.360 Instead, support the disgraced ex-governor.

01:18:30.420 Well, that why are Republicans even going to turn out to vote if that's their leadership?

01:18:35.640 And, you know, there are some like the White Stone Republican Club.

01:18:38.700 They get people engaged.

01:18:39.800 Queens Village gets people engaged.

01:18:42.000 Those parties emerge outside of the GOP itself because the GOP, when they hold their meetings, the party bosses are the ones that do the speaking.

01:18:51.240 They don't talk about anything interesting.

01:18:53.080 They don't invite speakers.

01:18:54.260 They don't go out into the communities and say, oh, we got new residents here.

01:18:58.400 Let's introduce ourselves.

01:18:59.700 Let's try and win them over.

01:19:01.560 And so the GOP apparatus has been a complete and utter failure because they don't know how to relate to the ordinary person.

01:19:09.300 And as long as, like Mark said, you got the consulting class, they get the wheels grease.

01:19:15.920 They're happy.

01:19:16.980 They make just as much money and they have just as much power losing as they do winning.

01:19:21.860 In fact, winning will bring more scrutiny upon them.

01:19:25.040 So when they're losing, nobody's paying attention.

01:19:28.640 So does this mean, Mark, we're supposed to just sit back and let business be business and let this thing go?

01:19:33.420 I mean, it's like we're just watching years go by and years go by with nothing changing.

01:19:40.300 I mean, President Trump is going to depart in three years and, you know, we'll never be in the president's office again.

01:19:45.380 And it'll be the next person. And we're supposed to just allow these city councils, these governor races to just go by the wayside. 0.96

01:19:51.540 I mean, we lost Kentucky, which is as red as a state as you could possibly get. 0.97

01:19:54.740 You got a Democrat governor down there at Andy Beshear.

01:19:56.960 I mean, are you supposed to just allow these to just keep going away?

01:20:02.120 What's your fix?

01:20:04.380 I think we're headed to like a post-political world.

01:20:08.100 I like I don't know what to tell you.

01:20:09.620 Like I measured a bunch of ways in which the temperature is increasing in America.

01:20:13.620 A lot of fear, political violence, like 90 percent of people are concerned.

01:20:18.360 And so like right now, there's two obvious three obvious ways this plays out.

01:20:23.760 One is that like NATO or China drags us into total global war.

01:20:28.160 And I'm not trying to be a doomer like these are sunshine tonight. 0.92

01:20:31.700 I know the NATO head is like we need to be prepared to fight a two front war with China and Russia.

01:20:41.820 And right now we're fighting a proxy war with both of those people right now.

01:20:44.940 We're literally doing kinetic operations against Venezuela, who's backed by China through the Silk and Road Initiative.

01:20:50.320 So that's on the table.

01:20:52.200 And that's usually what happens when the debt to government, you know, total government debt to GDP ratio goes above 100 percent.

01:20:58.120 It's like the escape hatch that the elites use, throw some kids into the wood chipper and maybe we'll skate by.

01:21:04.020 So then there's that there's now the Democrats are emboldened and Trump is still going to roll National Guard troops down, you know, the avenue in Chicago to try and defend ice.

01:21:15.180 And are they going to, you know, get a little bit of that Fort Sumter feeling?

01:21:19.520 I think that's a real possibility.

01:21:21.260 I don't know what that looks like.

01:21:22.520 And then it's like, OK, well, if you look at what's happening online and how upset the youth are, you're basically talking about like a Communist Party versus a National Socialist Party shooting it out.

01:21:34.260 Like, I don't know what to tell you.

01:21:35.420 That's those are the three most obvious options.

01:21:38.020 Well, so we're blaming a lot on the politicians, the political class, the elites.

01:21:43.000 At what point do we say the voters get the government they deserve?

01:21:46.600 I mean, let's be honest here.

01:21:48.380 The one thing that I'll say about Momdani, the one area where I'll give him credit is he was very honest with the people about what he wanted to do.

01:21:56.200 He didn't hide his socialism.

01:21:57.880 He wore it as a badge of honor.

01:22:00.320 And yet you had millions of people, two million people, I think, come out and vote.

01:22:05.180 So voter turnout increased from 23 to percent to about 45 percent, probably.

01:22:11.260 But think about that.

01:22:13.580 Fifty five percent of New Yorkers, a voting age population, didn't turn out to vote still.

01:22:18.880 And voter turnout is pathetic at local elections.

01:22:22.200 It's pathetic even in statewide elections and federal elections.

01:22:25.600 So at what point do we have to blame ourselves?

01:22:29.820 Not us particularly, but voters blame themselves.

01:22:33.400 Americans blame themselves because they're the ones that have allowed it to get this bad. 0.91

01:22:37.280 And like I said, you know, people are upset that Momdani is now the mayor of me.

01:22:42.300 I'm not upset.

01:22:43.160 The voters spoke.

01:22:44.120 Let New York City get the government they deserve.

01:22:46.480 And for all those people that complain about Momdani, did you volunteer for Curtis Lewa's campaign or Andrew Cuomo's campaign?

01:22:54.440 Did you make phone calls?

01:22:55.600 Did you knock on doors?

01:22:57.060 And if you didn't do those things, then don't complain to me.

01:22:59.940 No.

01:23:00.160 You know what everyone tried to do, Nick?

01:23:01.380 They tried to Monday morning quarterback after the cards were already dealt out and everyone had their chips in the middle of the table.

01:23:07.280 Can we take a quick break here?

01:23:08.260 Are you able to stay with us through this quick break or you got to go tuck the kids in the bed?

01:23:11.440 I'm able to stay for one more for you.

01:23:13.480 All right.

01:23:13.640 Let's let's take a quick break here, Mark.

01:23:15.140 Mark's got to go use the restroom.

01:23:16.440 He just told me and we'll come right back.

01:23:18.800 There's so much more.

01:23:20.000 He didn't tell me that.

01:23:20.780 It was just you.

01:23:21.360 Come on, Mark.

01:23:22.600 We're going to come right back.

01:23:23.680 There's so much more news to get to today because it seems now this government shutdown is going to start affecting the everyday lives of average Americans.

01:23:31.760 And the less fortunate Americans.

01:23:32.920 We're coming right back with Professor Nick Giordano and the great Mark Mitchell.

01:23:42.600 So I guess we're now in a record breaking shutdown, Mark, and you're delighted about it because you're big on the fiscal responsibility of the United States government, as I think Nicholas is and as I am.

01:23:52.560 But the Trump administration came out today and said they're going to cut the deficit by 600 billion this year alone.

01:23:59.560 Is that even possible?

01:24:01.320 You're asking me?

01:24:05.840 I don't know.

01:24:07.760 The number sounds kind of high.

01:24:09.520 Maybe the shutdown will help them.

01:24:11.540 I like the idea of the shutdown as a hammer to get actual like legislative action.

01:24:15.820 And they're just voting the same crap over and over again and running and hiding.

01:24:19.860 So I don't really know.

01:24:21.200 Like they're going to get punished over the shutdown, I think, increasingly.

01:24:24.760 But so far, Trump's kind of skated.

01:24:26.960 He's at like negative eight net approval yesterday, which is the lowest of his term.

01:24:31.240 But it's not that bad.

01:24:32.600 I don't think people really care that much about the government being shut down.

01:24:36.840 It's more like, well, like, what are you guys going to do about it?

01:24:39.480 And right now, nobody wants to do anything.

01:24:41.280 And the Democrats had it as a backdrop for election that they just did really well at.

01:24:46.260 And so right now, what's happening is Trump's getting frustrated at his own party and yelling

01:24:51.160 at him to use the nuclear option, which I don't even think they can do.

01:24:54.720 It just looks like garbage.

01:24:55.900 Which when what we thought we were going to get going into this was like Russ Vought, like

01:25:00.920 Trump chopping off whole portions of the federal government, which would have been great for

01:25:05.180 everybody.

01:25:05.640 The Zoomers really would have loved that. 0.95

01:25:07.720 I haven't heard about that guy for like a month now.

01:25:09.620 So I really don't know what their plan is.

01:25:11.320 But it's not good.

01:25:12.640 Nick, the Democrats today voting for the 14th time to fail to not reopen the government.

01:25:17.660 They're saying next week, if the government's not reopened that they're going to have to start

01:25:21.160 shutting down some air spaces across America tonight.

01:25:24.440 We saw tragically a UPS plane go down in Kentucky.

01:25:27.660 We're praying for those folks, the three people who deceased, 11 more injured.

01:25:32.340 This is going to start hitting the lives of everyday Americans.

01:25:35.620 I get on a plane now and I'm terrified as it is to get on a plane out of Newark, New Jersey

01:25:39.300 with the issues that we have there.

01:25:41.920 But you've got that.

01:25:42.780 You've got President Trump defying the court order, saying the SNAP beneficiaries are not

01:25:47.600 going to get their payments until the government reopens.

01:25:50.480 I mean, who is on the winning side of this issue?

01:25:55.140 You know, it's all it's so hard to tell.

01:25:56.900 So the first three weeks of a shutdown, nobody feels it.

01:26:00.500 Nobody cares.

01:26:01.400 And I think even if the government reopens tomorrow, nobody's going into the polling

01:26:05.900 boots next year based on the shutdown of this year.

01:26:08.920 Right.

01:26:09.240 It will be quickly forgotten once it's over.

01:26:11.220 But the longer it goes on.

01:26:12.660 Well, now, the more pain it causes.

01:26:15.560 And when you start to inconvenience Americans, Americans get mad.

01:26:19.060 And I don't know who the American people are going to blame with this.

01:26:22.440 It seems like Republicans historically usually get the blame for government shutdowns.

01:26:28.500 At the same time, I do think that given the fact that they've had these clean resolutions,

01:26:34.320 the clean CRs going forward and Democrats keep rejecting them.

01:26:37.900 And you have a Democrat like John Fetterman coming out saying that Democrats should get

01:26:42.560 on board with the clean CRs.

01:26:44.100 That's always what was passed.

01:26:45.440 That was always what was agreed upon.

01:26:47.280 It does make Democrats look bad.

01:26:49.680 There's speculation that maybe Democrats will now be willing to reopen the government because

01:26:54.180 they did win the election.

01:26:55.760 So now they want to show that they can govern.

01:26:57.880 At the same time, some say that maybe they look at the election victory as a reward for

01:27:04.380 keeping the shutdown going right.

01:27:06.240 The far left at a base came out in droves.

01:27:08.600 And if we reopen the government, then we're going to face backlash from the far left.

01:27:12.920 It's really hard to say how long it's going to last, but it can't last that much longer

01:27:18.160 because it will decimate the economy.

01:27:20.840 I mean, listen, I am someone that believes you could cut 20 percent from every single government

01:27:25.200 agency and government program and nobody will feel a thing at the same time, though, when

01:27:31.060 you immediately take one point six trillion, because that's our national deficit each year

01:27:36.480 when we're taking one point six trillion out of the economy immediately, that does cause

01:27:41.460 a shock to the economy as well.

01:27:43.560 And when we examine it, our budget's a friggin disaster.

01:27:49.400 And this is part of the problem.

01:27:51.340 It goes back to the Republicans and the failure of their leadership.

01:27:54.040 When was the last time we actually filed normal budget procedure in the United States, where

01:27:59.900 we introduced 12 individual budget bills, funds to each agency, each of the departments

01:28:05.300 and passed it the right way?

01:28:07.720 We don't.

01:28:08.640 And what's happened throughout this time is more and more discretionary spending has been

01:28:13.940 given to these federal agencies and departments.

01:28:16.820 And these agencies and departments can spend the discretionary funds any which way they see fit,

01:28:22.020 as long as they justify it to Congress.

01:28:24.040 It's a complete disaster and we have to get it under control.

01:28:29.200 What happens if we don't reopen the government?

01:28:32.000 I don't know.

01:28:32.700 This is now the longest shutdown.

01:28:34.320 If we have to close down airspace, I mean, think about the amount of forget people being

01:28:39.180 transported from one place to another and tourism and how that takes it.

01:28:43.460 Think of how many goods are shipped through the air each and every day and how that could

01:28:49.280 grind production to a halt, how that could lead to supply chain continuity issues.

01:28:56.060 And it could be wreak havoc on a Trump economy.

01:28:59.240 And the one thing we all know about Trump, he does not want to have a bad economy.

01:29:05.320 He will be upset with a bad economy.

01:29:07.840 So I think that something is going to get done.

01:29:11.000 Mark, Nick just brought up an interesting port and he said with the Democrats winning

01:29:15.300 tonight, was this really a Democrat win?

01:29:17.960 You went from Democrat to Democrat.

01:29:19.560 No Republican was ever favored to win any of these seats to begin with.

01:29:23.060 Was this actually a Democrat win?

01:29:25.900 Well, I don't know.

01:29:27.200 I'm looking at where New Jersey is going to play out.

01:29:29.980 And it looks like the Democrats might like overperform any of the polling, really.

01:29:34.620 And that would be a Democrat win, like a Democrat overperformance of the polling.

01:29:41.180 And even if it isn't, they're still going to paint it as a Democrat win.

01:29:44.360 Look, Trump's in office and everybody's voting from Democrats.

01:29:48.160 But just thinking about the shutdown, the just absolute retardation in which the Republicans 1.00

01:29:54.120 back themselves into a corner.

01:29:56.400 So they can't end the shutdown without giving into Democrats, essentially, is what it comes

01:30:01.840 down to.

01:30:02.340 And the only path that they have out is to either like bully the Democrats into submission.

01:30:08.600 And they're not doing that.

01:30:09.980 They literally are.

01:30:10.720 There's nothing that they are leveraging over the Democrats or to use the nuclear option,

01:30:15.960 which they can't do because they don't have enough votes.

01:30:18.700 That's why Trump's screaming at them.

01:30:20.100 So even though they're in charge of Congress in the Senate and everybody knows they're

01:30:25.560 governing, nobody gives a crap about the filibuster rules and they look like complete losers.

01:30:30.720 They're going to have to cave to the Democrats and they're gaining no political capital by

01:30:34.800 keeping the government shut down.

01:30:36.400 The whole point was to use it to gain political capital.

01:30:39.520 Well, let's be honest.

01:30:40.700 Most Americans have no idea how the Senate actually works when Democrats are out there and they're

01:30:46.380 saying, well, Republicans are in the majority in the Senate.

01:30:49.000 They can reopen the government when they want.

01:30:51.280 They don't.

01:30:51.960 Republicans just sit there and they think Americans know about the filibuster and culture votes.

01:30:57.400 And no, the American people don't know.

01:30:59.400 The American people see that when you're in the majority, there's high expectations.

01:31:03.320 It's why Mitch McConnell, when he became the majority leader, said, I'd rather be the

01:31:07.340 minority leader because nobody has any expectations of you doing anything when you're in the minority.

01:31:13.060 Yeah, that's the problem with most of these politicians.

01:31:14.780 That's the whole Republican Party summarized in one sentence.

01:31:17.660 Yeah.

01:31:18.800 The interesting thing we're starting to see now is a little bit of turning inside the Republican

01:31:22.120 Party.

01:31:22.480 We've seen it from Tom Massey from the beginning.

01:31:24.440 We've seen it now from Rand Paul.

01:31:26.380 There's an interesting one we saw today, and I want to get your guys' reaction on a roll of

01:31:29.900 video for you guys.

01:31:30.620 It's Marjorie Taylor Greene, who apparently is very upset that President Trump snubbed

01:31:35.740 her for the Senate seat in Georgia, knowing that she damn well can't win based on the 0.92

01:31:41.820 background, based on who she is.

01:31:43.660 But she was on The View today, and she was actually going after MAGA influencers.

01:31:48.120 You know, I think there's a lot of paid social media influencers, and I found it very interesting

01:31:55.060 that they were the MAGA accounts, but they're all paid, and they all attacked me when I

01:31:59.940 announced I was coming to join you ladies on The View, and I think that's very weak and

01:32:04.200 pathetic.

01:32:05.100 But when I talk about weak Republican men, I'm pretty much talking oftentimes about the

01:32:10.840 leadership in the House and the Senate, and they're just sick.

01:32:14.040 They're not getting our agenda done.

01:32:17.060 Good old Marjorie Taylor import every single illegal immigrant to come work at my construction 1.00

01:32:22.500 green.

01:32:23.140 Turning on MAGA?

01:32:26.140 Who needs Democrats when you got Republicans? 1.00

01:32:28.580 I mean, seriously, when we look at it, I mean, look at what she's someone that's advocating.

01:32:33.380 You got to give in to the ACA subsidies.

01:32:36.340 And Republicans should have been explaining to the American people that, hey, Democrats gave

01:32:42.380 you these subsidies.

01:32:43.180 So when these subsidies expire, you're facing four years of rate increases, not just one

01:32:49.300 year of rate increases, four years of rate increases that are built up.

01:32:53.220 And the longer the subsidies take place, the longer the rate increases are hidden from you,

01:32:57.820 the American public.

01:32:59.020 So now you have all these people getting their health insurance bills like, oh, my God, it's

01:33:02.600 going up 30 percent.

01:33:04.160 Well, yeah, that's like me not paying the increase on my car insurance for four years.

01:33:08.420 And I get that bill.

01:33:09.320 Finally, it's going to be a big increase over that period.

01:33:12.640 And Republicans, they they had how much time to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act,

01:33:20.560 right?

01:33:21.220 We're talking 15 years now.

01:33:23.580 They had to come up with a better alternative plan, a plan that is actually simple to understand

01:33:29.520 that you could explain to the American voter that all Republicans agree on.

01:33:34.080 And yet they still have nothing.

01:33:36.900 And then they wonder why they lose.

01:33:38.520 But you don't need a plan to lose when you got Marjorie Taylor Greene sitting there bashing 0.98

01:33:44.420 you and bashing Republicans.

01:33:46.540 I mean, she's ridiculous in herself. 0.99

01:33:48.900 She's actually one of Mark's favorite members of Congress.

01:33:51.160 He told me off the record.

01:33:53.180 I don't know what's gotten into her.

01:33:54.740 I mean, she's she's on this new faction.

01:33:56.280 Mark's there rolling his eyes.

01:33:57.300 What did she say that was wrong, though?

01:33:59.320 Like, I agree with the whole construction aspect.

01:34:01.800 I think her business should be rated.

01:34:03.780 But like, what did exactly on the view did she say wrong?

01:34:07.160 Are we are we just upset that she was on the view?

01:34:09.720 Because that I think it's absolutely retarded to use your favorite word that she would go 1.00

01:34:15.080 on the view and shit on Republicans like I would do that all day long.

01:34:18.340 You or I would, but not this woman who's this devout magite when they're out there every 0.99

01:34:22.700 day calling Donald Trump Hitler.

01:34:24.040 I mean, really?

01:34:25.480 To me, it seems like more of a personal issue.

01:34:27.640 Well, Republicans are idiotic for complaining that she's going on the view. 1.00

01:34:31.140 I mean, if someone's invited, go on the view, but actually challenge the ladies on the 1.00

01:34:35.920 view.

01:34:36.340 Don't sit there.

01:34:37.340 She doesn't have the brainpower to do that. 1.00

01:34:41.700 No, to me, it's like her crying, like Massey crying and Rand Paul crying.

01:34:47.280 Well, Donald Trump doesn't want to support me for Georgia.

01:34:49.320 Well, no, because we don't want to give away another election seat.

01:34:52.360 We want to win these two Senate seats back in Georgia.

01:34:54.580 We don't want to have an instance like we had in in Arizona where Carrie Lake lost an

01:34:59.240 election, however many times and keep losing these elections.

01:35:02.060 It boils down to to to Curtis Sliwa here in New York.

01:35:06.620 How many more times are you going to run, Curtis, before you say, OK, is enough enough?

01:35:09.820 Let's maybe try to get somebody who could win the seat, not run for the New York City

01:35:13.880 matching funds where I'm getting seven to one or eight to one where, you know, I can raise

01:35:17.700 millions of dollars.

01:35:18.720 But Republicans didn't even put up a candidate against Sliwa.

01:35:22.240 Dingo.

01:35:22.520 No, no, because they're not going to waste their time.

01:35:25.560 And I I'm not arguing with you on the on the fact of it, but they're not going to sit

01:35:28.980 there and waste their time on this guy who's, you know, pretty much a shoe in.

01:35:32.560 And this boils back to what we were talking about earlier about there being accountability

01:35:36.560 inside these local GOP's who's running the New York GOP, who's running these local GOP's

01:35:42.140 who's responsible for putting these candidates up.

01:35:44.780 Let me tell you another story, John.

01:35:46.040 I pulled on three states now privately for like Senate and governor races of MAGA candidates. 0.97

01:35:54.040 And they're in like bluish states where it's like if Trump really had a major preference

01:35:59.740 cascade, then they could get over the finish line.

01:36:02.180 But they're probably going to run in the general and lose by like seven or eight points.

01:36:06.160 And the Trump endorsement would help them.

01:36:08.580 And the polling all looks the same in these states.

01:36:10.760 Like people are super frustrated with traditional Republicans.

01:36:13.660 Republican brand is like really trodden down.

01:36:17.400 People want to MAGA Republican over a traditional Republican, but they're still going to lose.

01:36:24.040 And what's the trend I've seen across all these people?

01:36:27.240 They don't know who to talk to.

01:36:28.860 They can't get in at the RGA.

01:36:31.060 Donald Trump's endorsement person doesn't want to talk to him because they're going to lose.

01:36:35.260 The NRSC doesn't want to spend money on them because they're going to lose.

01:36:38.900 And so what you have is all these blue states where what's going to happen is some basically

01:36:43.520 establishment.

01:36:44.300 Tony's going to run and look like an absolute retard. 1.00

01:36:46.900 Give the Republican Party a bad name, run on nothing and look like a complete failure because

01:36:52.380 the Republicans don't want to spend money.

01:36:54.420 They don't want to actually plan.

01:36:55.960 They don't want to have they don't want to look at.

01:36:57.900 There's only 50 states.

01:36:59.460 They don't want to do the hard work.

01:37:01.560 Exactly.

01:37:01.920 Yeah, I agree with you, Mark.

01:37:04.420 I agree with you 100 percent, especially when you look at the Democrats, when you've got

01:37:07.720 Zohan Mondani, a 33 or 34 year old assemblyman or whatever.

01:37:12.560 Come here.

01:37:12.960 He's now running the biggest city in America with I mean, absolutely.

01:37:18.720 Here's a key difference between Democrats and Republicans.

01:37:21.760 So I live on Long Island, which my area is a red area, thankfully. 1.00

01:37:26.720 But what Democrats will do is they will bus their people in from New York City to Suffolk

01:37:33.480 County to go and campaign for Democrats here that they'll they'll bus them into to help

01:37:39.640 protest here to make the protest bigger. 1.00

01:37:42.060 You never hear of Republicans organizing in Suffolk County and sending Republicans into

01:37:47.180 the city to help Republican candidates win city council seats, win the mayor's race.

01:37:52.980 And that's the difference between Democrats and Democrats are highly organized.

01:37:57.920 They're they're activists.

01:37:59.320 They're they're trained.

01:38:00.360 They're engaged where Republicans take a much more hands off approach, just like they did

01:38:05.780 with the education system.

01:38:07.100 And now the education system has been hijacked by all leftists, just like they did within

01:38:11.580 the federal bureaucracy.

01:38:12.940 And the bureaucracy has been hijacked by all leftists.

01:38:15.660 If you had asked anyone 15 years ago, a member of the FBI, are they a Democrat or Republican?

01:38:21.840 Most of them would have said Republicans.

01:38:23.880 They didn't realize that Democrats were building the intel component out and they were hiring

01:38:29.660 right off the college campuses.

01:38:31.580 Republicans tend to ignore what's right in front of their faces.

01:38:35.140 And but then they act all surprised like, oh, we had no idea.

01:38:39.060 We had no idea.

01:38:40.080 It was like you hear all the Republicans with Operation Arctic Frost that they were being spied

01:38:45.380 on.

01:38:45.660 And they're sitting there saying this is shocking.

01:38:48.180 This is outrageous.

01:38:48.900 No, we've been warning you about this for years.

01:38:52.280 And so you shouldn't be surprised.

01:38:54.800 And yet you still haven't introduced a bill to curb their power, despite them spying on

01:39:00.140 you.

01:39:00.440 And you're the one with the power of oversight or arrest anybody frustrated people out there.

01:39:05.640 Or how about arresting somebody?

01:39:06.800 I mean, they've got James Comey on lying to Congress when the man's clearly guilty of

01:39:10.440 treason.

01:39:10.900 You've got Letitia James with her political persecution of President Trump was going down 1.00

01:39:15.300 for mortgage fraud.

01:39:16.220 You could arrest as many people as you want.

01:39:18.980 The reality is you're not fixing this problem until Congress exercises their power of oversight

01:39:24.180 and introduces legislation to take away their statutory authority.

01:39:27.820 If you want to arrest a couple of people, that's great.

01:39:30.280 They should be accountability and they should go to prison.

01:39:32.440 I have no problem with that.

01:39:33.820 But it's not going to stop the bureaucracy from doing it again.

01:39:38.560 The bureaucracy has become an animal onto itself.

01:39:41.080 It's the fourth branch of government that has no respect for the checks and balances and

01:39:45.420 separation of powers.

01:39:47.060 And so Republicans, they all knew that FISA was being abused.

01:39:51.140 Congressman Devin Nunes revealed everything.

01:39:54.580 And then a vote came up to reauthorize FISA.

01:39:57.320 And what did every Republican do in lockstep?

01:39:59.480 Well, we'll vote to reauthorize it.

01:40:02.360 That's the idiocy.

01:40:06.120 Burn it down politics.

01:40:08.100 That's where we're at.

01:40:09.140 Nick, did I show you my spectrum?

01:40:12.440 Did I show you my political spectrum?

01:40:14.700 No, you didn't.

01:40:15.940 It's probably dangerous.

01:40:16.900 Let's see it, Mark.

01:40:18.040 No, like, hold on.

01:40:19.160 I have a feeling retardation is going to be somewhere in there. 1.00

01:40:22.360 No, it's not retarded. 0.97

01:40:23.720 It's actually super intelligent, I think.

01:40:26.240 I'm trying to redefine politics in a way that, like, Republicans can understand.

01:40:30.280 It's up, John.

01:40:31.680 Let's get it up here.

01:40:32.560 This is no longer authoritarianism versus economic freedom.

01:40:37.540 Like, I redefined the axis.

01:40:40.120 Now it's grift tolerance versus authority trust.

01:40:43.260 How much, like, screw jobs are you willing to suffer?

01:40:47.640 How much theft and, like, perennial just, like, bad governance?

01:40:52.400 And how much do you trust the people in leadership?

01:40:55.280 A lot or a little?

01:40:56.540 And I think, like, 65% of the country is in the green square, which is they are done.

01:41:01.360 They don't trust anybody.

01:41:02.820 They think they're getting screwed every day by everyone, and they want to burn it down.

01:41:07.980 But the problem is, I think most Republicans are in the blue square, which is, like, long live the system.

01:41:13.820 You know, the system's worked.

01:41:14.920 I'm part of the system.

01:41:15.940 It's been pretty good to me.

01:41:17.020 And it's kind of okay if 30% of Medicare is fraud.

01:41:21.240 Like, you know, it's good enough, you know.

01:41:25.080 And so that's the right.

01:41:27.740 And I think the left is pretty equally divided between the red and purple squares.

01:41:31.920 So I think, like, a good chunk of core Democrat voters think that it's like, well, I trust authority, but I don't like Pete Hegseth.

01:41:40.360 And I would rather get my person in charge because Pete Buttigieg was the best Department of Transportation director ever.

01:41:46.900 He was John Smith.

01:41:48.440 Yeah.

01:41:48.720 And then Momdani and AOC are in the purple one, which is, like, I'm taking this crap over, and we're going to grift the hell out of it, you know?

01:41:56.700 No, I think it's a good graphic, and I think you're bringing up great points.

01:42:00.380 The only thing I may disagree with is the 60% and burn the system down. 0.99

01:42:04.580 I find the – I encounter people that it's just – they don't care.

01:42:09.680 They genuinely don't care.

01:42:11.900 It's like, oh, I don't like politics.

01:42:14.160 I don't get involved.

01:42:15.160 I don't talk politics.

01:42:16.080 It doesn't affect me.

01:42:18.420 And so many people have their heads buried in the sand, and that's what concerns me more than anything.

01:42:24.080 That's why when I look at the threat, you know, Democrats will talk about Trump being an authoritarian.

01:42:30.240 Republicans will talk about communism.

01:42:32.640 Let's be honest.

01:42:33.820 The real way we go authoritarian is the actual bureaucracy.

01:42:37.360 You see, that's where we become authoritarian.

01:42:41.160 They have more power than the president of the United States.

01:42:46.020 We saw it with the healthcare state, and nobody is doing anything about it.

01:42:50.060 In fact, because of the influence of pharmaceutical companies and the healthcare industry, I say this a lot.

01:42:56.200 People don't – nobody is wrong with this.

01:42:58.560 But if we hadn't put Medicare and Medicaid in place, our national debt would only be $18 trillion right now, not $38 trillion.

01:43:07.520 And it's literally what killed us.

01:43:09.480 And it's what will destroy our republic or basically what – paying for end-of-life care for boomers is what's going to give us that final shove over the cliff. 0.99

01:43:17.060 And we got the right people in charge right now, and nothing's happening.

01:43:23.420 Well, but again, I think that we look at the education system.

01:43:27.680 We look at how it's fundamentally collapsed.

01:43:29.640 We look at people that don't think critically.

01:43:32.000 We've spent, what, $23 trillion since the war on poverty began, and the poverty rate is pretty much the same.

01:43:39.200 It's just been flat.

01:43:40.180 That $23 trillion, where did all that money go?

01:43:43.940 And again, it speaks to the stupidity that you have all this money going out of the federal government, our tax dollars going out.

01:43:51.040 And it's going to all these non-governmental organizations, all these nonprofits, all these left-wing activist organizations.

01:43:58.960 And Republicans don't even talk about how our tax dollars are actually being weaponized against this.

01:44:05.120 There's more money today going to feed the homeless than ever before.

01:44:09.040 And yet there's more homeless today than ever before.

01:44:13.200 It's completely ludicrous, and yet nobody really talks about it.

01:44:17.660 Insane.

01:44:19.260 Where is Mark?

01:44:21.220 Well, we talk about it every time Mark's on the show.

01:44:23.820 The fourth turning.

01:44:24.940 Are you familiar with the fourth turning, Nick?

01:44:26.860 No, I'm not.

01:44:28.080 It's the concept that every 80 to 100 years, a massive phenomenon happens in a country.

01:44:35.720 It pretty much upends it.

01:44:37.020 I mean, so you look at the last 80 to 100 years, World War II, or, you know, whatever point you want to catalog.

01:44:43.260 Civil War, the American Revolution.

01:44:45.200 The Great Depression.

01:44:45.940 Whatever you want to look at.

01:44:47.120 And Mark says that we're now on the fourth turning, and something's got to give in.

01:44:51.020 Whether it be the housing crisis that we're in, the debt crisis we're in.

01:44:54.740 And I'm not just talking about government debt.

01:44:56.420 I'm talking about personal debt at an all-time high among every single American.

01:44:59.560 Not every single American, but a large majority of Americans.

01:45:05.600 So Mark is under the impression, and I tend to agree with him more and more every time he talks about it, that we're now in this fourth turning where something's got to give it some aspect in this country to essentially hit the reset button.

01:45:19.880 It will, but what comes next probably is going to be a hell of a lot worse that we're going to have to slow through.

01:45:25.640 Yeah.

01:45:25.800 But when we look at it, if we look at the 21st century, I mean, think about it logically.

01:45:30.360 You had 9-11.

01:45:31.200 You had the mortgage meltdown crisis.

01:45:32.920 You had shocks to the system.

01:45:35.160 The election of Trump, which was a shock to the system.

01:45:37.880 Then you had the pandemic and COVID.

01:45:39.640 Then you had a brain-dead president for four years that ran wild.

01:45:43.420 And so what's coming down the pipe next?

01:45:45.980 I think Mark's right.

01:45:47.280 I mean, there is something.

01:45:49.040 The house of cards can only stay up so long, right?

01:45:52.700 Sooner or later, this whole thing is going to come crashing down.

01:45:56.060 And I think the question on all our minds would be, well, what happens next?

01:46:00.960 And none of us really know.

01:46:02.620 And that's probably the most frightening aspect to it because we don't know what happens.

01:46:07.200 We do know.

01:46:08.200 So this is – it's a historical theory, and I'm not a historian.

01:46:11.160 But there's patterns that repeat themselves.

01:46:14.560 And so what causes the fourth turning is generational differences.

01:46:19.140 It's like, okay, you have a generation of people that grow up in a different context.

01:46:22.760 So the people that grew up and had to go fight a war for Europe grew up very differently than the generation that followed them,

01:46:29.420 which is the boomers that have everything handed to them on a silver platter.

01:46:33.400 And so what happens is once you have a major crisis, everybody has to come together.

01:46:37.820 They form a new society.

01:46:39.320 There's different values.

01:46:40.260 There's very strong institutions.

01:46:42.040 There's a lot of cohesion.

01:46:43.520 And that phrase over time, people would become more individualistic.

01:46:47.060 And then eventually what happens is all the institutions collapse.

01:46:50.100 And that is exactly where we are.

01:46:52.100 And so once the institutions collapse, everything gets so bad.

01:46:55.660 And we talk about top-down solutions.

01:46:57.760 What can the Republicans do?

01:46:58.920 How do we fix this?

01:47:00.120 But what happens in the fourth turning is there's a bottom-up pull for institutional order.

01:47:04.420 And what the basic major hinge pin is that when that happens, it's a new generation. 0.87

01:47:11.340 And I think we're seeing that right now.

01:47:13.180 And it's very clear to me with the Israel stuff where the boomers and the zoomers are very, very, very, very different on this topic. 0.76

01:47:19.340 The boomers are preaching down to the zoomers, and the zoomers are rebelling against the boomers. 0.99

01:47:24.780 It's like, nope, we don't want to hear your crap.

01:47:26.700 It hasn't worked for us.

01:47:27.640 You handed us a horrible society.

01:47:30.260 And the boomers handed zoomers a horrible, horrible, horrible society. 1.00

01:47:33.920 They had the best of everything, a land of milk and honey, and they gave them a broken and fragmented society.

01:47:40.340 And so what history tells us is the millennial generation is the hero generation that steps in and reforms these organizations.

01:47:47.860 And we're going to see a very rapid change of public opinion where everybody all of a sudden says, oh, well, that works for me.

01:47:53.860 Let's do this.

01:47:55.280 And the zoomers are the ones that generally get thrown into the front lines of a major war. 1.00

01:48:00.000 But, you know, it doesn't have to be a war.

01:48:05.260 It could be anything.

01:48:07.020 But what concerns me is we're seeing this problem of oikophobia.

01:48:10.600 So oikophobia is people that have a nation become so successful and people begin to take things for granted.

01:48:18.280 And then they begin to disdain.

01:48:20.520 They have this disdain for the country they come from, their hatred.

01:48:24.040 And we're seeing that, right?

01:48:25.480 A lot of Americans despise America because that's what they've been taught.

01:48:30.000 America is a horrible country.

01:48:31.440 We're a racist country.

01:48:32.680 Western civilization is the problem.

01:48:34.700 Western civilization is the cause of all the world's evils out there.

01:48:38.860 And so we do have that backlash.

01:48:41.060 So if we are going to see a younger generation rise up, well, what scares me is what's going on in Nepal and Madagascar,

01:48:48.920 where you do have the Gen Z rising up, fighting against corruption, which is great.

01:48:53.200 And the social media bans, fine.

01:48:55.480 But what is the ideological mindset of the younger generation?

01:49:00.940 I don't think people realize how we have this tendency to be authoritarian, each and every one of us.

01:49:07.280 It's a constant battle between liberty and authoritarianism.

01:49:10.160 Like, everyone hates Congress because they say Congress doesn't do anything.

01:49:13.720 But let's be honest.

01:49:14.600 People don't want Congress to do just pass bill after bill after bill.

01:49:18.880 They want them to pass the bills that they want.

01:49:21.740 And so we see this authoritarianism creeping in.

01:49:25.400 And so it does concern me if we are heading to this rise up of a younger generation.

01:49:31.080 What's it going to look like?

01:49:32.340 Is it going to be in the mold of a mom, Donnie, where we know those policies lead to death, poverty and misery? 1.00

01:49:39.620 Is it going to be something new?

01:49:41.320 Is it going to be getting back to the roots of the America's founding?

01:49:44.680 Well, they don't even know the roots of our founding.

01:49:47.640 And so what comes next?

01:49:49.320 And I think that's the biggest fear I have.

01:49:51.840 And it's who's running the show, too.

01:49:54.340 You've got so many people now.

01:49:55.760 It's like a race to the bottom of who could be the next influencer.

01:49:58.700 Who's got the most Twitter followers?

01:50:00.340 Who's got the biggest social media following?

01:50:02.780 And it's really not it's not about that.

01:50:05.540 It's about, as you said, getting America back to its fundamental values of truth, justice and the American way.

01:50:11.980 And we've drifted so far off that path that that path that maybe the fourth turning is what is needed in this country to get us back on track to that truth, justice and the American way.

01:50:23.620 Nick, we'll give you the last word here before you depart and tuck your kids into bed.

01:50:27.800 I think you're bringing up a great point when you when you do look at the social media and how people interact on social media.

01:50:34.000 It seems like today most things aren't based on substance.

01:50:38.800 Everything is about optics and perceptions, and there's no real deep thought that takes place.

01:50:45.640 And that's part of our problem.

01:50:47.020 We've lost the ability to have deep conversations.

01:50:50.260 I mean, listen, when I went to college, I had communist professors, but they loved me because they appreciated education.

01:50:56.480 They appreciated the debate.

01:50:58.280 They appreciated learning.

01:50:59.680 Today, people hear what they want to hear.

01:51:02.180 People retreat to their echo chambers.

01:51:04.620 And listen, you host your show.

01:51:06.680 I host my show.

01:51:08.540 You know, Mark hosts his.

01:51:09.620 He does the numbers and the stats.

01:51:13.100 And the second people hear what they don't want to hear, they start attacking you like they could agree with you on 95 percent of what you say.

01:51:21.480 But the second you deviate from their narrow minded point of view, well, now all of a sudden you've betrayed them.

01:51:29.140 You're a traitor.

01:51:30.060 And how many people I had on front of me?

01:51:32.060 So I'm like, no, anyone who any Republican that advocates voting for a disgraced governor of New York state in Cuomo should be ashamed of themselves.

01:51:41.740 And I had people DM in me.

01:51:43.560 And I'm just like and I just put it out there on social media.

01:51:46.140 Like my job as a professor is not to validate your opinion.

01:51:49.360 I don't give a shit how you feel.

01:51:50.960 I don't care what your opinion is.

01:51:52.800 I'm going to say what I think and what I believe.

01:51:55.020 And I think that you hit on something really important, the lack of substance.

01:51:59.340 And it also mirrors the lack of substance within pop culture.

01:52:03.260 Right.

01:52:03.620 And all the B.S. and special effects rather than the storyline and the creativity to it.

01:52:09.320 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

01:52:10.980 Professor Nicholas Giordano, host of the PAS Report.

01:52:13.640 Where can people watch the show?

01:52:14.740 Where can they follow you?

01:52:16.140 Everyone go to PASReport.com on any podcast platform, the PAS Report, or just follow me on social media at PAS Report.

01:52:24.080 I make it simple for people.

01:52:25.920 Nick, we'll have to all go out with a beer, have a beer sometime with the great Mark Mitchell.

01:52:30.040 We'll have him.

01:52:30.480 We'll get him a Heineken double zero, no alcohol in it.

01:52:33.980 Nicholas Giordano, always a delight, my friend.

01:52:36.500 We'll see you soon, brother.

01:52:37.260 Thanks so much for joining us.

01:52:38.120 Thanks for having me.

01:52:39.180 Thanks, brother.

01:52:39.800 Great seeing you, Nick.

01:52:41.420 Good man.

01:52:42.040 Good dude.

01:52:42.980 And then there were two.

01:52:44.680 I think we've still got a pretty decent audience with us tonight.

01:52:47.240 So it's nice that everyone's like almost 600 on YouTube, ripping on Twitter.

01:52:52.440 There was a little problems getting the stream started on Twitter.

01:52:54.860 I don't know what happened.

01:52:55.580 Some of it got cut off.

01:52:56.740 We got to figure out how to stick the landing next time.

01:53:00.000 But I'm interested if he'll read about the fourth turning.

01:53:03.280 I would love his take about it.

01:53:04.380 And it's a tough one to get just dumped in your lap and parse it.

01:53:09.180 But one of the things that I think they undersell is how strong leadership really matters.

01:53:15.540 And again, whatever.

01:53:17.260 If we get in a galvanizing war against another country, that would probably bring everybody together in a very patriotic way.

01:53:23.300 If it turns inward into some civil war, it's 100% going to be like global homo DEI Democrat socialism versus like literally probably Christian white identitarianism. 0.97

01:53:33.980 That's just what's going to happen based on like the current trends.

01:53:37.140 But like remember when everybody hated each other after Bush Gore and then all of a sudden everybody was like, oh, my God, Bush is the best president ever because of 9-11.

01:53:48.280 Well, we're going to see stuff like that like during the fourth turning.

01:53:52.740 And there's no way to know at all like what that looks like.

01:53:58.300 You brought up the Bush Gore. 0.65

01:53:59.540 So I guess I've got to say something that's probably pretty unpopular right now among Republicans.

01:54:03.000 I think that was probably one of the first big steals in American history for an election.

01:54:07.140 With that Bush down in Florida, it's probably not popular with the opinion of the folks listening.

01:54:13.280 But in my humble opinion, for what it's worth, probably worth absolutely nothing.

01:54:18.300 I think that was probably one of the first tests in America of stealing an election for someone.

01:54:23.760 There's no secret cows with me.

01:54:25.540 I mean, like, I believe it.

01:54:27.040 With everything I've heard about Florida and what goes on like behind the scenes down there, you know what I mean?

01:54:31.140 And Ted Cruz was running the show, and we know now who Ted Cruz is.

01:54:35.380 So he was running the show down there for Bush.

01:54:38.880 So it tells you what you're talking about.

01:54:40.520 Oh, John, I took a swipe at Ted Cruz today.

01:54:43.100 Let's talk about that.

01:54:44.020 But first, I want to – my phone is just buzzing, buzzing.

01:54:46.860 I'm going to group chat with my entire family.

01:54:48.880 I've got all sisters in there. 0.94

01:54:50.080 And one just popped across my phone that I couldn't stop laughing.

01:54:53.860 But this is – and I want to read it to the audience, Mark, because this is what – the mindset of what people think and what we talked about with Roger earlier.

01:55:03.080 My mother tweets in this chat, Cuomo won Staten Island.

01:55:08.540 If that stupid red hat dropped out, it would have been a tie. 0.98

01:55:12.300 This is the misconception that Roger had spoken about, assuming that the uninformed voters like my mother – no.

01:55:20.860 Right now, as it sits with 90% of the vote in, Momdani's at just about 51%, with Cuomo at 41%, Sliwa at 7%.

01:55:28.760 That's assuming now that he'd pull all 7%, which is not the case.

01:55:34.420 Well, let's also acknowledge that Sliwa definitely over-polled his actual turnout.

01:55:39.020 He was doing a lot better in the polling, and his people just didn't show up at all.

01:55:43.460 Were they ever there?

01:55:44.560 I mean, were people telling the truth that – you know, you're a pollster, Mark, and I'm a pollster in a sense.

01:55:49.140 And I do a different kind of polling than you.

01:55:50.900 My polling is usually done in grocery stores or sporting events where I talk to people.

01:55:55.200 And in some cases, I would argue that's the most important polling you could do is talking to the people and seeing what their mindset is and interacting with them face-to-face.

01:56:06.080 But, I mean, there's no doubt that the Republicans – as you said, this could be a win for the Democrats if they grossly underperform.

01:56:13.500 And by every metric, what we're looking at right now, the Virginia governor's race, Mark, I mean, this is a massive 15 points with 95% of the vote in Virginia.

01:56:25.900 Winsome Sears down 15 points.

01:56:28.540 I mean, that is absolutely massive and not like any poll I think we've seen out.

01:56:34.140 But Mikey Sherrill in New Jersey right now up about 13 points with 95% of the vote in.

01:56:42.540 So I don't know where the outstanding areas are, but I'm not sure how you make up 7% of the electorate in 6% of the outstanding vote, if that makes sense to you.

01:56:55.920 Yeah, I see her at – Decision Desk is projecting –

01:57:00.140 I use the New York Times.

01:57:02.820 Their numbers are usually pretty accurate.

01:57:05.720 She's at 56% with Jack Cittarelli at 43% with 94% of the vote in.

01:57:10.540 So the pollsters missed this one, I think, massively.

01:57:15.540 Virginia, another one massively.

01:57:17.360 And, you know, to the pollsters who said in the New York race, I'm glad you didn't even poll that race in New York

01:57:23.060 because you would have probably been way off with them missing.

01:57:26.940 I mean, it's looking like where it's at right now, he's going to win by about nine points, eight points, seven, something like that.

01:57:35.500 Yeah, I think we're going to learn that this is the power of independence.

01:57:39.000 And, like, Republicans are going to look at every Trump victory and say, look at all those Republicans.

01:57:43.220 And they're not, dude.

01:57:44.300 They're just not.

01:57:45.060 And they don't like what you stand for.

01:57:46.860 And you make yourselves look retarded and you fail. 0.97

01:57:49.180 And so, like, how are they going to fix this?

01:57:53.600 I really don't know because they are spending every fiber of their being not only to rebel against MAGA, but to redefine MAGA into being pro-Israel.

01:58:02.600 And it's like, OK, Trump's pro-Israel.

01:58:04.560 Of course.

01:58:05.380 Like, Sheldon Adelson was his biggest donor.

01:58:07.500 I get that.

01:58:08.460 But it's like the movement is America first.

01:58:11.680 And that's what it is.

01:58:14.980 That's what's going to get people.

01:58:16.160 Do you think this is an eye-opener for the midterm elections that Republicans are underperforming in certain areas?

01:58:25.840 I mean, do you think this is an actual eye-opener?

01:58:28.360 I mean, you see record fundraising from the Republican Party to the NRCC, the NRSC.

01:58:32.780 And I tell all the audience, Mark, do not give a dollar to the NRCC.

01:58:38.240 Do not give a dollar to the NRSC.

01:58:40.200 If you like a candidate, you give it to that candidate directly so you at least know where the money is going.

01:58:44.480 And you know the money is being well spent.

01:58:46.160 Do you support that person?

01:58:47.760 Is this an eye-opener?

01:58:48.720 Are we just going to see business as usual come the midterm elections where the Republicans think that they're just going to sit on their asses and win?

01:58:57.240 Well, we'll see specifically, like, vis-a-vis the polling, like, why there was an under turnout.

01:59:03.300 And we'll be able to apply some of that to the 2026 polling.

01:59:06.860 But, again, like, an actual midterm cycle is different than, like, a special election off-cycle kind of thing.

01:59:13.700 And we'll see.

01:59:14.820 And people will adjust their model.

01:59:16.180 And people will come out with new generic ballot polling.

01:59:18.320 And it will give us an idea of where we're really at.

01:59:20.800 But at the end of the day, it's tough to poll individual congressional races.

01:59:23.920 The generic ballot is only somewhat predictive.

01:59:26.380 There's so many things up in the air with the map.

01:59:28.480 But we're not really going to have a very clear picture of what's going to go on.

01:59:32.000 Senate polling is going to be a little tough.

01:59:33.580 And the Senate races are, like, in my opinion, corrupt as hell.

01:59:37.160 So it's like, I guess we're going to count on Dominion or, like, all of a sudden the Republicans figuring something out.

01:59:44.880 But it's going to be, like, campaign season.

01:59:47.000 Like, kind of after Christmas, they're already going to start talking about that stuff.

01:59:50.680 So I don't know.

01:59:52.240 I think everybody needs to prepare themselves for, like, Democrats getting back into charge at this point, probably.

01:59:59.160 And I think it's going to be no holds barred.

02:00:03.600 And there's some important races, Mark.

02:00:05.140 You've got the two seats in Georgia that are crucial seats that the Republicans could possibly pick up.

02:00:11.680 You've got Colorado.

02:00:13.200 I'm going to go through just some of these seats.

02:00:15.000 You've got Colorado and Delaware, which are written off.

02:00:17.240 Illinois written off.

02:00:18.580 Massachusetts written off.

02:00:19.600 Minnesota is a seat that you can possibly flip if you were to spend some money.

02:00:24.160 New Hampshire, another one.

02:00:26.620 You've got the New Jersey race, which I guess we can write off now.

02:00:30.360 New Mexico coming up.

02:00:31.880 Oregon, Rhode Island, Virginia.

02:00:34.020 Those are all safe Democrat seats coming up.

02:00:37.500 But you've got Tom Tillis, who's retiring in North Carolina.

02:00:40.380 That's a seat that the Republicans could possibly lose with the way that they've been going and the way that they've had things going.

02:00:48.040 You've got Florida up for election.

02:00:49.300 I consider Florida a safe Republican seat right now.

02:00:51.580 But who the heck knows what the Democrats will to cheat.

02:00:55.880 You've got Virginia up for election.

02:00:57.520 So you've got some seats that are ready to go.

02:01:00.240 But it's just a matter.

02:01:01.860 You've got John Ossoff in Georgia, another one that the Republicans.

02:01:06.520 I don't even know who the candidate is down there.

02:01:08.480 And we're a year.

02:01:09.760 And I mean, you're pretty much a year from the election.

02:01:12.180 I can't even tell you.

02:01:13.320 Do you know who the Republican candidates are down in Georgia for Senate?

02:01:16.840 But no, there's my point.

02:01:21.200 So it's like if you're not going to get serious with this and Mark, I'm not even sure the Republicans want to win the midterm elections.

02:01:28.480 I go back and forth like questioning myself.

02:01:31.380 Do they really want to win?

02:01:32.720 Do they not want to win?

02:01:34.140 And it goes back to what Nick was saying about Mitch McConnell, you know, liking to being the minority.

02:01:38.560 Do they really want to win or do they just want to seize power and see power over to the Democrats?

02:01:42.560 Yeah, and Donald Trump threw everything in the Republican Party for 10 years that he thought was necessary and it wasn't enough.

02:01:52.660 And that's the problem.

02:01:54.500 Well, you say donate to the candidate.

02:01:56.360 But I even wonder how good that is, John, because so many of these candidates, these outsiders are forced to run and use the traditional establishment vendors.

02:02:05.080 And they're told really, really, really bad advice.

02:02:10.420 And in some cases, I've heard stories of the vendors being used against them with their own money, which is really kind of horrible.

02:02:16.440 So my point is, if you wanted to give a lot of money to save America, who would you even send that money to?

02:02:22.800 At this point right now, probably the Wounded Warriors, probably Tunnel to Towers.

02:02:31.080 I mean, I haven't given a political donation, Mark, in probably six or seven years.

02:02:37.340 And the last very big political donation I gave to was a friend running for state assembly in New York.

02:02:42.940 I mean, I mean, I'm dealing against it because you're doing better than me because I know why the money is spent, Mark.

02:02:52.340 I've ran political campaigns.

02:02:54.400 That's what I did for most of my adult life.

02:02:56.680 I know how the money is spent.

02:02:57.820 I know the Capitol Grill dinners that are had.

02:03:01.080 I know the expensive steak dinners that are had.

02:03:03.260 I know how it all works.

02:03:06.460 So I'm very against it.

02:03:08.500 And it sucks because you need it.

02:03:10.880 And at the same time, you look at it, you're like, well, I'm against giving to them.

02:03:13.640 But then I'm out here saying, well, I'm against AIPAC giving to them.

02:03:17.480 So if we're ruling out me, we're ruling out AIPAC, who's giving the money to win.

02:03:22.340 Yeah.

02:03:24.820 I mean, that's a sad point is that none of this money comes without strings.

02:03:29.640 Like, that's the problem.

02:03:30.960 But let's just say that you were some magical unicorn trillionaire and you wanted to give $200 million to save America.

02:03:39.080 And my point is that I don't think there's currently any organization that you could give that money to and trust that it would actually move the ball downfield.

02:03:49.340 You can't give it to the NRCC.

02:03:51.780 You can't give it to the RNC.

02:03:53.280 You can't give it to the Trump administration.

02:03:56.600 The campaign is gone.

02:03:58.060 There's not going to be another Trump campaign.

02:04:00.060 You could give it to the J.D. Vance campaign, but that's not necessarily money that's going to go to reforming the Republican Party.

02:04:06.040 And it doesn't exist yet.

02:04:08.800 Like, who else?

02:04:09.980 You could give it to the America PAC and you're probably giving money to support more H-1B visas.

02:04:17.040 Like, you know, I don't.

02:04:18.320 Like, the Democrats have this problem solved.

02:04:22.880 Like, George Soros knows where the money goes.

02:04:24.680 It goes through a network of things that are specifically geared towards winning.

02:04:29.320 The Republican Party does not have that network at all.

02:04:32.480 They have freaking Scott Pressler.

02:04:35.640 Well, we had it.

02:04:36.180 It was Elon Musk.

02:04:36.880 We had it.

02:04:37.440 And that's, you know, at the beginning of the whole Elon Musk thing, I was very upset with Elon.

02:04:41.520 And I'm still upset with Elon, how he handled the situation.

02:04:43.900 But I understood the whole time his frustration, Mark.

02:04:47.020 I understood that he went to Washington, D.C., not knowing how the thing ran and came out extremely deceived and disappointed with not what he was promised, but his expectation that he was going to be able to go in there and actually make a change and actually make a difference.

02:05:03.580 Little did he know that the Washington swamp and the machine was going to eat him right up.

02:05:09.300 Yeah.

02:05:10.280 Literally the biggest Republican sugar daddy they've ever had ever.

02:05:14.620 And they sent him out of D.C. with his tail between his legs.

02:05:17.920 It's.

02:05:19.400 I want to get to.

02:05:20.560 You've got a super chat over here.

02:05:22.040 So I want to.

02:05:22.640 Hey, I'm going to bring it up on the screen.

02:05:25.060 Cool.

02:05:25.320 Got to get to the super chats.

02:05:27.540 I think we've got it up there.

02:05:29.200 Go for big guy.

02:05:30.460 Islamic radicals are openly celebrating the New York City results.

02:05:34.000 Send send it to your bird.

02:05:36.820 DM.

02:05:37.220 Oh, no.

02:05:39.220 Yeah.

02:05:39.580 I mean, of course they are like good for them.

02:05:43.020 Thanks for the 10 bucks.

02:05:45.000 But yeah, like I'll go buy a beer with it and drown my sorrows.

02:05:48.940 Thank you.

02:05:51.940 Yeah, it's a problem.

02:05:53.280 And Republicans are just like sleeping on this, like the aspect of what I think the world sorely misses Charlie Kirk.

02:06:01.500 And we have a lot of churches, John.

02:06:04.280 We have a lot of Christian conservatives.

02:06:06.920 And yet I don't really hear a lot of people out there leading on things like marry young, have children, find faith.

02:06:14.320 And those things you could say, well, there's a separation of church and state.

02:06:18.440 But if we had done more of that, I think objectively we'd be in a little bit different societal situation right now.

02:06:23.980 And the problem is, is the Republicans are so cowardly that they wouldn't even lean into that.

02:06:28.300 And this like was a very big topic because of J.D. Vance came out at the Turning Point USA event and actually had the horror to say he was trying to convert his Hindu wife, really agnostic, into Catholicism.

02:06:40.780 And that gave people like heart attacks and heart palpitations.

02:06:43.640 Because as a Christian, you're not allowed to do that, even though it's like literally written in the Bible. 1.00

02:06:50.480 So his leadership will be lost.

02:06:53.080 But I think it shows by contrast that even the church is failing on this.

02:06:57.860 That certainly conservatives are.

02:06:59.980 They're not.

02:07:01.220 That's the thing.

02:07:02.060 They're treated like the socially conservative party.

02:07:05.180 All of the negative baggage.

02:07:07.180 Yeah.

02:07:08.040 But they're not at all.

02:07:09.340 They don't care.

02:07:10.860 You got three of them that will come out of it against LGBT stuff.

02:07:13.900 And that's it.

02:07:16.160 And keep kicking the can down the road.

02:07:18.100 And that's like the mantra of the Republican Party.

02:07:21.160 I mean, literally, let's kick the can down the road till the next election, till the next person has to deal with it.

02:07:28.040 And we constantly find ourselves, Mark, in the same issues each and every year.

02:07:32.600 And it's only going to get worse when Donald Trump is not in office.

02:07:37.380 We're just at a strange, strange point right now in America.

02:07:40.280 Mark, it could take a turn for the better.

02:07:42.900 It could take a turn for the worse.

02:07:44.140 And if it takes a turn for the worse, I think it was really bad.

02:07:49.440 You know?

02:07:50.200 Yeah.

02:07:50.800 Well, that's the fourth turning.

02:07:53.780 Youth unemployment, 17%.

02:07:55.400 Maybe it'll get to 25.

02:07:57.020 Maybe there will be pitchforks.

02:07:58.660 I really don't know.

02:08:00.500 Maybe we'll be unified against a common foe.

02:08:03.820 Maybe that common foe will be anti-Semitism, John. 0.58

02:08:06.220 And I really have no idea.

02:08:08.480 We've got some news here for the audience, Mark.

02:08:12.540 It probably comes as no surprise.

02:08:14.400 California voters agreed to aggressively redraw congressional district maps and lines to wipe out as many as five Republican seats.

02:08:22.720 Excuse me.

02:08:24.140 Much expected.

02:08:26.000 Donald Trump said today that they're going to fight it in court and that they're looking at it criminally.

02:08:31.860 Oh, that would be interesting.

02:08:33.640 Good.

02:08:34.180 Good for them.

02:08:34.900 That's the right way to deal with it.

02:08:36.600 Another thing they could do is get California voter rolls and remove illegal aliens from them and aggressively deport people from California.

02:08:47.440 There should be like an ice raid on California.

02:08:50.140 Get rid of as many illegals as possible because we know they're voting. 1.00

02:08:53.160 It's just a question of how much.

02:08:54.340 But what makes me feel gross, though, John, is that people in good faith actually came to me and were worried about Prop 50 and were like, is this going to pass?

02:09:05.540 Oh, yeah.

02:09:06.540 And the answer is, of course, it's going to pass.

02:09:08.600 The Democrats want it, and it's in a Democrat stronghold.

02:09:11.120 But the fact that people didn't understand that was kind of sad, that they've been misled to think somehow that the political calculus is different than how it really is.

02:09:22.720 You're absolutely right.

02:09:23.540 I was trying to get up here before.

02:09:24.880 I think we wrap Ted Cruz because you had mentioned his name and how you're going after him.

02:09:30.960 You had a tweet you went after him with.

02:09:33.740 I wanted to pull up a clip that he did with Tucker for everyone who missed the interview because I think it was just so brilliant.

02:09:39.320 What were you saying earlier about a Ted Cruz and your tweet against him?

02:09:46.460 Oh, let me bring it up.

02:09:47.600 I got to find it.

02:09:48.580 It was early.

02:09:49.080 I tweeted a lot today.

02:09:51.280 I had some good ones.

02:09:52.940 John, let me put a banger or two up.

02:09:56.560 Oh, boy.

02:09:58.100 This one I thought was good.

02:09:59.480 Hold on there.

02:10:01.460 All right.

02:10:02.220 I got to hit the share button.

02:10:03.840 It's worth the wait.

02:10:04.900 John, give me a sec.

02:10:06.300 Take your time.

02:10:06.960 Take your time.

02:10:07.600 All right.

02:10:07.960 Here we are.

02:10:09.320 Let's see.

02:10:11.660 Let's get it up here for the audience.

02:10:15.820 Hold on.

02:10:16.480 I'll make it bigger.

02:10:17.620 It would really be great if we could fix society before we dump the young generation into total global war to clear away the bankster debt.

02:10:27.840 It makes me sad to think about that.

02:10:30.340 Their girl back home is actually an OnlyFans model. 0.99

02:10:33.800 I'm convinced there's probably people on here who, God bless them, don't know what OnlyFans even is.

02:10:45.720 Oh, I think everybody does.

02:10:47.280 But I hit a really banger, too, that a lot of people didn't get.

02:10:50.980 John, read this one aloud for the crowd.

02:10:53.320 I bet the folks at the villages are getting more tail than the zoomers they're going to send off to war. 1.00

02:11:01.160 You should have tagged Rylan Hollihan to that.

02:11:07.560 Actually, he's probably like Harry Sisson, where he's got like all these side pieces on text that he's you know, that guy's like a predator.

02:11:17.460 Apparently, this is the one.

02:11:19.240 Now, you might not get the context, but this was a very popular meme back on the Donald back in the day where there was a period where everybody was mad at Ted Cruz and they called him lying Ted.

02:11:31.100 And then all of a sudden he did some good America first stuff.

02:11:34.120 So they changed it to lie in Ted.

02:11:36.000 And then there was this meme where it was like, I'm coming, Donald, like to like help out with America.

02:11:41.840 Well, I said, I'm coming, BB.

02:11:43.540 Hold on.

02:11:46.900 I think I've got the video that that I was referring to.

02:11:50.620 Give me one second, because I think we could all get a laugh out of this on where Ted Cruz has taken this massive turn.

02:11:56.680 And for those of you who didn't see it and who who heard about it, the Ted Cruz Tucker Carlson interview that really upended the Western world over here.

02:12:06.020 It was Ted Cruz being questioned about his political donations from a pack.

02:12:13.740 Give me a second.

02:12:14.700 We're getting it up here for the audience who hasn't seen it, who want to be filled in on what's been going on and the controversy between Ted and Tucker Carlson, as the Democrats and rhinos like to call them.

02:12:31.480 Hold on.

02:12:31.640 I think we've got it.

02:12:32.440 We've got people in the chat.

02:12:33.660 Taken money from the Israel lobby, have you?

02:12:36.520 Taken money from the Israel.

02:12:37.940 From AIPAC.

02:12:38.760 So AIPAC raises a lot of money for me, but it's actually a misnomer because the people who raise money are individuals.

02:12:44.620 So it's not the PAC itself, but they're individual members who believe in the American-Israeli friendship and relationship.

02:12:51.500 Is AIPAC a foreign lobby?

02:12:53.320 No, it's an American lobby.

02:12:54.560 It's the AIPAC stands for the America-Israeli Political Action Committee.

02:12:57.880 What is it lobby for?

02:12:58.780 So, to be honest, not a whole lot effectively.

02:13:02.220 Listen, I came into Congress 13 years ago with the stated intention of being the leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate.

02:13:12.000 And I've worked every day to do that.

02:13:14.400 AIPAC, a lot of times...

02:13:17.060 AIPAC, I wish were much more effective.

02:13:19.740 AIPAC, a lot of times, it's like, they're fun.

02:13:21.200 They're very focused on online or in the fever swamp of terrified of AIPAC.

02:13:25.380 And AIPAC...

02:13:26.060 I'm not terrified of AIPAC at all.

02:13:27.880 You're the one who seems a little uncomfortable when I'm asking.

02:13:29.760 No, I'm not uncomfortable at all.

02:13:30.700 I'm just asking what AIPAC does.

02:13:33.120 My understanding, having no logical words to AIPAC, is that it lobbies on behalf of the Israeli government.

02:13:39.120 Wrong.

02:13:40.100 Oh, okay.

02:13:42.000 When was the last time AIPAC took a position that deviated from Prime Minister Netanyahu?

02:13:47.540 Not all the time.

02:13:48.920 Name one.

02:13:50.000 Okay.

02:13:51.680 Let me go back and give a little history.

02:13:53.040 If you want to do a deep dive on AIPAC...

02:13:54.280 I don't.

02:13:54.660 I want to do a shallow dive that gets...

02:13:56.020 No, I'm not going to do a simple...

02:13:57.140 I want to get to the core question.

02:13:58.380 AIPAC is lobbying for a foreign government.

02:14:00.620 False.

02:14:00.900 And I don't...

02:14:01.560 It's not.

02:14:02.160 No.

02:14:02.300 It's lobbying for the United States?

02:14:03.360 It is lobbying for a strong U.S.-Israeli relationship.

02:14:07.860 Okay.

02:14:08.300 And...

02:14:08.700 So it has nothing to do with the foreign government?

02:14:11.720 It wants America and Israel to be closely allied.

02:14:15.780 Oh, they're not?

02:14:16.260 Okay.

02:14:16.400 But it's lobbying on behalf of the interests of another country.

02:14:21.080 So that's not true at all.

02:14:22.640 And if you...

02:14:23.020 It's not true.

02:14:23.680 No.

02:14:24.300 How much contact do you think AIPAC leaders have for the government of Israel?

02:14:28.380 No idea.

02:14:29.420 I imagine some.

02:14:30.440 I think the government of Israel is often frustrated with AIPAC.

02:14:32.920 Do you think there's any...

02:14:33.540 Because AIPAC's not nearly strong enough?

02:14:34.540 Do you think there's any coordination between the government of Israel and AIPAC?

02:14:37.820 Do they talk?

02:14:38.680 Sure.

02:14:38.840 Or if you're lobbying for more U.S.-Mexico trade, would you talk to people in the U.S.

02:14:44.460 and Mexico and the government?

02:14:45.400 Sure.

02:14:45.680 Like if...

02:14:46.840 So I'm not mad about that.

02:14:48.220 There are a million countries that lobby Washington.

02:14:50.520 I like a lot of those countries, including Israel.

02:14:52.140 But AIPAC or Americans?

02:14:53.200 They're not Israelis. 1.00

02:14:53.860 Hold on.

02:14:54.240 There are tons of Americans who lobby on behalf of foreign governments.

02:14:57.240 I know them.

02:14:57.800 I'm related to some of them.

02:14:58.820 I know how it works.

02:14:59.460 I'm from here.

02:15:00.280 So my question is not, is it outrageous that foreign governments lobby the United States?

02:15:04.320 They all do.

02:15:05.020 Okay.

02:15:05.400 Including Israel.

02:15:06.600 My only question is, why don't we admit that is what's happening?

02:15:10.280 You're denying it, but it's true. 0.84

02:15:12.240 And why aren't they...

02:15:12.840 Because what you're saying is false.

02:15:13.640 Why aren't they registered as a foreign lobby?

02:15:16.100 Because they're not.

02:15:19.180 So this goes back to what we were talking about earlier, Mark, about the lies.

02:15:24.980 I mean, Ted Cruz blatantly lying in every word he said there.

02:15:31.560 Yeah.

02:15:32.900 Put yourself in the Zoomer's shoes and you watch that clip and they're going to see it 0.95

02:15:37.700 because it's on the internet.

02:15:39.500 They're just going to believe that Ted Cruz is lying because of his body language and how

02:15:43.640 it seems super inauthentic.

02:15:45.460 And they're not going to believe that Tucker Carlson was funded by Qatar because they haven't

02:15:50.260 been presented evidence of that.

02:15:51.700 And who's the one there that's fighting for the interests of the American people?

02:15:55.820 It's Tucker.

02:15:56.960 And that's the future for the Republican Party.

02:16:01.940 Like, sorry, Twitter's not going away.

02:16:04.040 TikTok's not going to go away.

02:16:05.360 And they're going to see through your lies.

02:16:07.480 The number one thing you can do to piss off the younger generations is prove that you have 0.99

02:16:12.280 somebody else's interests ahead of theirs.

02:16:14.900 That's it.

02:16:15.520 They're very selfish people.

02:16:16.840 They want this stuff to be fixed and they're going to go to the person that's going to

02:16:21.500 fix it.

02:16:22.100 And mom, Donnie believes the stuff he says.

02:16:25.060 And, you know, the issue, Mark, this is we you and I talk a lot about this and it's not

02:16:29.160 an Israel problem.

02:16:30.200 It's not an Israeli problem.

02:16:31.360 It's not a Jew problem.

02:16:32.200 It's none of that.

02:16:33.200 It's a foreign government lobbying problem.

02:16:35.540 If any other foreign government were doing that, we'd call them out on it.

02:16:39.140 But you and I have gone through the numbers, Mark, many times to the tune of one hundred

02:16:43.080 and thirty million dollars is the next closest foreign lobbying.

02:16:48.420 And it's Japan.

02:16:50.040 Yeah, that's the issue.

02:16:52.080 It's not who's doing it.

02:16:53.300 It's the matter of fact that it's happening right before our eyes.

02:16:56.780 And as you said, the Zoomers, you know, are seeing it. 1.00

02:17:01.480 And in turn, Tucker Carlson's being called Tucker Carlson that he's paid by Qatar.

02:17:07.540 It's something we've never even heard of before, before any of this stuff started.

02:17:13.060 And now it's just running rampant that Tucker's this anti-Israel hater because he's calling

02:17:19.140 out the truth.

02:17:20.700 Yep.

02:17:21.960 I mean, Qatar lobbies, they do it.

02:17:24.080 It's like 30 to 60 million a year.

02:17:26.400 Not to the truth.

02:17:27.200 No, it's not even that much.

02:17:28.360 It's not even that much.

02:17:29.560 No, 30 to 60 million.

02:17:32.300 No, I think it's something that included like personal donations.

02:17:37.360 No, no, no.

02:17:38.840 We're talking about from a government lobby.

02:17:41.420 Oh, yeah, specifically.

02:17:42.680 Okay.

02:17:43.400 That's like going and pulling every donation of who's Italian and who's not.

02:17:47.660 I mean, you go find, you know.

02:17:49.980 No, no, John.

02:17:51.600 I asked an AI to do this specifically because I wanted to know the sum total of all influence

02:17:56.860 of Israel versus Qatar.

02:17:58.920 And what it says is that Israel has a hell of a lot more influence because of all the 0.85

02:18:03.200 cultural aspects, the people at high levels of like institutions and even things like

02:18:08.780 the fact that one of Trump's major donors is one of the Adelsons and they're very pro-Israel.

02:18:14.560 He said it in a speech himself.

02:18:15.900 This is all they care about.

02:18:16.960 They only care about Israel. 0.93

02:18:17.940 And that's fine.

02:18:20.860 The part that pisses me off is people try to paint Qatar as an equal and it's just not.

02:18:26.260 And what they use is fake stats.

02:18:28.060 They say this one stat that, look, Qatar spends $6 billion influencing our education.

02:18:34.060 And that's why all of these people on campuses are commies. 0.57

02:18:37.140 Well, that was like $6 billion spent over like 40 years and almost all of it went to build

02:18:44.460 the colleges in Qatar, satellite campuses, and not actually like it was, if anything,

02:18:52.420 Americans influencing people in Qatar and not vice versa.

02:18:56.580 Right.

02:18:57.000 And the notion you hear, Mark, is like, well, you have to do it because Israel is one of our

02:19:06.140 greatest allies.

02:19:06.900 Well, OK, I'm sorry.

02:19:08.180 Are the Netherlands not one of our biggest allies?

02:19:11.100 Are the French not one of our biggest allies?

02:19:14.300 Is the United Kingdom not one of our biggest allies?

02:19:17.560 Was the Soviet Union?

02:19:19.200 So you can run through, you know, every single country that has saved.

02:19:25.760 Right.

02:19:25.940 Japan.

02:19:26.500 You can run through every single country that has saved America at some sort of inflection

02:19:31.440 point throughout history and say they are one of our biggest allies.

02:19:35.980 Yes, America has a lot of allies.

02:19:38.100 As a matter of fact, we have one on the border north of us.

02:19:41.360 Canada is one of our great allies.

02:19:43.780 Right.

02:19:44.120 So everything is under the guise of, well, they're our greatest allies.

02:19:49.260 We have to do it.

02:19:50.300 And that's like the, you know, the good old line of telling your parents why you committed

02:19:57.300 a crime is because my friend told me to do it or, you know, I was following my friend

02:20:00.740 or he did it.

02:20:01.720 So I had to do it.

02:20:02.840 And, you know, that's what everything is hidden under now.

02:20:06.180 You're our greatest ally.

02:20:08.700 John, I think I got another two or three super chats.

02:20:12.440 I'm getting out.

02:20:12.860 I'm already ahead of you on that part.

02:20:14.760 Yeah.

02:20:15.020 Sorry we're not more on chat, people.

02:20:16.420 I saw some funny comments about the villages and stuff, you know, it's hard to see when

02:20:22.100 someone had alluded to that they were on their way down to the villages after seeing

02:20:28.540 more.

02:20:29.060 Yeah.

02:20:29.180 Good for you.

02:20:30.080 But you got to admit, and the villages is great, but you got to admit that it's a little

02:20:33.840 dark when it's like the new generation is going to go fight and die in a war to pay

02:20:37.680 for your Viagra.

02:20:38.560 Um, almost everything you said about the fourth turning is what I was thinking, but I didn't

02:20:44.380 know it was called that, uh, $5 really appreciate it.

02:20:47.640 There's a book by Neil Howell that goes through this.

02:20:50.080 There's two of them.

02:20:50.820 The one's called the fourth turning and I read most of it.

02:20:53.100 And then there's another one called the fourth turning is here.

02:20:56.260 And I haven't read that one, but I think it's right.

02:20:59.440 And I think it's almost like 95% there, but I think the aspect that he leaves out is like

02:21:06.160 how utterly corrupt our entire society has been by like basically late stage capitalism

02:21:11.760 too.

02:21:12.840 So maybe we're going to have like a super fourth turning, uh, super trendy moneymaker, $5.

02:21:18.220 Appreciate it.

02:21:19.060 The path to agenda 2030 has begun.

02:21:22.540 This could be the end of America when these socialists take full control of the country

02:21:27.160 mid midterms in 2028.

02:21:30.920 Yeah, I will see the pot of water is probably going to get hotter.

02:21:36.740 And I, I think that's not a controversial take, John.

02:21:41.080 The super chats are pouring in this from a soon to, uh, Madani.

02:21:45.820 I apologize if I'm not saying that correctly.

02:21:48.380 1999 super chats are pouring in folks.

02:21:50.940 Keep them pouring in Mark's by the way, I was on the phone with Mark's daughter with Mark

02:21:54.560 one time and I heard his daughter in the background.

02:21:56.200 How was your stream?

02:21:56.860 Dad, did you get any super chats?

02:21:58.880 Mark's children even know about your folks is super chats.

02:22:03.240 So, uh, keep them coming.

02:22:04.400 And, uh, the kids, the kids, they do the kids.

02:22:07.500 They, uh, they made like a nice little, uh, uh, poster for my a hundred thousand.

02:22:13.800 That's pretty nice.

02:22:15.180 That's awesome.

02:22:15.940 I can't turn the wall here, but I can't turn the camera.

02:22:18.260 So you've got a chest.

02:22:20.200 The, the, they're still pouring in the chats or they're all caught pouring in.

02:22:23.760 Appreciate the super chats over a huge following still this late at night.

02:22:27.620 I'm really surprised we told them it was a poll party, Mark.

02:22:31.060 I mean, we hit everything tonight from, you know, the elections to Tucker Carlson being

02:22:36.020 owned by Qatar to, I'm, I don't think there's, I don't think there's anything we missed tonight.

02:22:41.620 We've literally went up and down the spectrum, Mark.

02:22:45.600 Uh, I owe apology.

02:22:47.160 The guy that's moving to the villages says, I don't need Viagra.

02:22:51.720 Congratulations.

02:22:52.200 I've been down to the villages once or twice before with Lou for some speaking engagements.

02:22:59.640 It's a fun place, man.

02:23:00.740 I, you know, the one thing, Mark, you go down and everyone down there, dude, everyone there

02:23:05.520 has a smile on their damn face.

02:23:07.100 I mean, everyone is so happy.

02:23:09.660 It's like the pinnacle, man.

02:23:11.260 I would love to go there.

02:23:12.480 Retirement seems like such a great thing.

02:23:14.280 And I, you know, I look forward, uh, to the time.

02:23:18.580 I don't know if I'm going to make it that long.

02:23:20.340 This is like, I'm tired, boss.

02:23:23.460 I'm tired.

02:23:26.940 Times are busy, Mark.

02:23:28.160 When you've got Donald Trump as president, you know, I've worked new cycles of Donald

02:23:33.040 Trump being president.

02:23:33.920 And then I worked a new cycle of Joe Biden being president and now a new cycle of Donald

02:23:37.640 Trump being, you know, president again.

02:23:39.300 So that's the course of, you know, it will be the full course of 12 years.

02:23:42.720 It's, uh, I'm sorry.

02:23:45.940 I was just reading one of your comments.

02:23:47.260 Um, oh no, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a tiring new cycle, but I'll tell you when

02:23:52.560 Donald Trump is in power, things are just so much more fun.

02:23:55.960 There's so much more laid back and easygoing as compared to having to watch Joe Biden walk

02:24:02.020 upstairs and fall down and slip on stages.

02:24:04.080 And that was a sad time for America, Mark.

02:24:08.380 I'm with you, John, but I feel like Steve Bannon wants that again.

02:24:12.940 You know what I mean?

02:24:15.000 He wants what again?

02:24:17.140 Uh, I think he's serious about a Trump 20, 28 run.

02:24:20.980 And I don't know what the argument is that he's using.

02:24:24.200 The only one I know of is to have like a final showdown between him and Barack Obama and

02:24:30.640 convince the Republicans and Democrats to come together to amend the constitution.

02:24:34.860 And I don't know if Trump wins that fight in 83, because so much of this is becoming increasingly

02:24:41.460 about age.

02:24:43.140 Well, that's what I was going to ask you.

02:24:44.720 Age aside, if Donald Trump, if there were an election held tomorrow, can Donald Trump

02:24:50.120 win?

02:24:53.460 Uh, I think he would lose with independence.

02:24:56.160 He's negative 25 with independence today.

02:24:58.480 And he basically almost won with them.

02:25:01.600 So no, I don't know.

02:25:03.920 I don't think so.

02:25:04.920 I think people gave him, is he doing bad?

02:25:07.720 No, he's not doing bad, but it's probably not good enough.

02:25:11.120 And if he won, I don't think he would have had the house and the Senate.

02:25:16.020 No, I'm just, I'm speaking him, him, him alone.

02:25:18.580 Not, you know, nothing with the house or any of that stuff.

02:25:21.560 Yeah.

02:25:21.720 I just feel like things have really quiet down a lot.

02:25:24.620 And people, because you look, we were a year in and, you know, I don't blame Donald

02:25:29.520 Trump for a lot of this, but we're a year in market.

02:25:31.740 And what do we really have to show for it?

02:25:34.320 And I say it all the time.

02:25:36.460 I'm America first before anything, before candidate.

02:25:38.860 I want everything for America.

02:25:40.860 I want America to be the best on the world stage.

02:25:42.600 I want America to be the best everywhere in everything.

02:25:45.300 And, you know, you look at where we're at right now, you have no indictments.

02:25:51.480 You haven't, you have three or four indictments that are, in my sense, are just nonsensical.

02:25:56.140 You've got Letitia James on her mortgage fraud. 1.00

02:25:58.380 Yeah, she should be prosecuted for it, but that's not the real crime. 0.99

02:26:01.980 You've got James Comey on lying to Congress.

02:26:03.980 Yes.

02:26:04.180 Did he do it?

02:26:04.760 Yes.

02:26:04.940 Does he deserve to go to jail?

02:26:05.980 Yes.

02:26:06.300 But that's not the real crime.

02:26:07.460 Um, so, you know, you look at these things and you're like, well, and you follow guys

02:26:13.320 like Mike Davis on Twitter, who's just uses profanity all day long, get an effing lawyer,

02:26:18.460 get ready.

02:26:19.000 We're effing coming for you, effing this, effing that.

02:26:21.480 And you're like, yeah, I get it.

02:26:22.680 You're, you're a big cheerleader for Pam Bondi, but, uh, when are we going to get a real

02:26:27.940 indictment?

02:26:28.600 And then the next thing you hear, Mark is, well, it's an ongoing conspiracy.

02:26:32.220 So there's no statute of limitations.

02:26:33.940 Well, okay, I get that.

02:26:34.760 That's great.

02:26:35.320 It means we can go after all these scumbags, but how long do you want to wait and how long

02:26:40.520 are you going to allow this ongoing conspiracy to go on for?

02:26:43.780 Now, I maybe just be thinking these things because I read all day long and I do this for

02:26:47.820 a living, but if I'm thinking that I would think the American people are probably thinking

02:26:52.640 similarly to me on some issues.

02:26:56.980 Uh, it's, it's coming to the fourth turning.

02:27:00.960 I don't know what to tell you.

02:27:01.960 It's people.

02:27:02.720 Well, what it's going to happen is, is people are going to take more drastic action.

02:27:06.420 I already think, and we're going to try and confirm this with the polling that people

02:27:10.220 care less about the values like the constitution, uh, you know, constitutional crisis, weaponization

02:27:16.140 of our justice.

02:27:16.960 It's all been pushed to the brink.

02:27:18.780 And so one of the things I want to test is if people are ready for a Caesar.

02:27:22.280 And one of the questions we're going to ask is like, if you could have one person just

02:27:27.080 fix three problems that you care most about by giving the power of the legislature to the

02:27:33.040 executive branch, would you support that or oppose that?

02:27:35.400 And I guess we'll see.

02:27:36.940 Um, cause again, they're not really angry.

02:27:40.200 People aren't angry.

02:27:41.120 They're dispassionate.

02:27:42.520 They're let down.

02:27:43.840 They're, um, dismayed.

02:27:46.040 And it's not angry yet, but that like anger happens really, really fast.

02:27:51.440 And, uh, you know, we saw that it takes, um, you know, a five second clip of somebody

02:27:56.660 getting shot in the neck and we're, we're something like that.

02:28:00.880 Um, and so it's a, it's a powder keg.

02:28:03.720 Yeah.

02:28:04.340 I think you're absolutely right.

02:28:05.780 I think we've hit our mark, Mark.

02:28:07.440 We've hit everything.

02:28:08.300 The audience has been terrific.

02:28:09.420 They stay with us mostly through this entire two and a half hours, 45 minutes.

02:28:15.020 We appreciate you guys, uh, following us and we appreciate you guys being with us, uh, on

02:28:20.380 this special edition of the great America show and Rasmussen reports.

02:28:23.880 Uh, I always enjoy doing these things with Mark.

02:28:26.240 We have a great deal of fun.

02:28:27.620 We have great audiences and, uh, we appreciate all the questions and all that good stuff.

02:28:31.460 We're sorry.

02:28:31.760 We couldn't get to more of your questions tonight.

02:28:34.100 Um, due to the stream issues we have and it's all technical process.

02:28:39.400 Stuff that you guys don't care about, but, uh, we appreciate it.

02:28:42.420 We're going to try to work to, uh, get better technology moving forward.

02:28:45.880 Mark, where do you want to wrap this thing?

02:28:47.340 Where, how do you want to, how do you want to wrap this?

02:28:49.460 What do you want to leave the audience with?

02:28:50.680 We've heard, we've seen a lot of black pill comments.

02:28:53.180 I'm not much of a pessimist.

02:28:55.660 Uh, where do you want to leave this audience?

02:28:57.960 Well, I'm not a black pillar.

02:28:59.520 I'm a lookout and I should be graded on my visual acuity and nothing else.

02:29:05.540 And it's like, what do you want?

02:29:06.840 Do you want somebody up there with the binoculars lying to you about the icebergs?

02:29:10.980 And this is, this is it folks.

02:29:13.700 This is the American empire.

02:29:15.440 And it's been destroyed by basically a uniparty grift.

02:29:19.100 Like that's, that's it.

02:29:20.340 We got 40 trillion in debt.

02:29:21.780 We're one bond vigilante puke away from like being basically insolvent.

02:29:25.820 And, uh, you know, life's going to go on like America will exist, but I think it will be kind

02:29:31.960 of a mess.

02:29:32.560 And I don't want my kids to inherit the society in the direction that things are going.

02:29:37.780 And I think a lot of people will be like that too.

02:29:39.920 I think again, people will come together in a way that will change the society.

02:29:46.220 We know it's coming and it's coming very rapidly.

02:29:48.920 I think we're seeing the very first stages, but it's going to be like all hands on deck.

02:29:53.480 You know what I mean?

02:29:54.080 It's not going to be, that's in my opinion, that's the biggest problem with the Trump movement

02:29:58.720 is everybody's like, Oh, cool.

02:30:00.280 We got somebody to do all the work for us, like fix it all Trump.

02:30:03.340 And no, that's, that's not going to work.

02:30:05.520 And probably the sooner we realized that the better for the country, um, Trump was probably

02:30:11.340 an olive branch to the establishment and they spit on it. 0.87

02:30:15.960 You know what I mean?

02:30:16.640 Like that's what happened.

02:30:18.840 Yeah.

02:30:19.800 Folks, that's all for us tonight here.

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02:30:41.300 Folks, thanks so much for being with us tonight here.

02:30:43.440 We really appreciate it.

02:30:44.900 We're sorry.

02:30:45.320 The elections didn't go the way that we had hoped, but hopefully this is an eye opener

02:30:50.160 for the Republican party.

02:30:52.160 See you back here next time, folks.

02:30:53.580 Thanks so much for being with us tonight.

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