Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich joins Lou Dobbs on The Great America Show to take a fresh look at Joe Biden s dismal fall in the polls, and why he should be worried about what s happening in the rest of the country.
00:02:57.500So the last great stand of the left-wing propaganda media is that maybe they can keep the Senate.
00:03:05.580Their candidates have raised a lot of money.
00:03:08.320Most of the Republican candidates had to go through primaries, where, of course, you spend a lot of money.
00:03:13.760And so if you were to take a snapshot as of mid-July, you know, you could make a case that some of their candidates are in pretty good shape.
00:05:06.920Now, that means 87 percent of people think it's not currently working.
00:05:10.740But there's a second problem for the Democrats, and that is that their values are seen by most Americans as nutty.
00:05:17.780I mean, when you go out and say, which pronoun do you want me to use?
00:05:22.760The average American thinks that's a little weird.
00:05:25.020If you have a Supreme Court nominee who can't define the word woman, and then a few weeks later, a woman's right to choose becomes a big issue when they can't define what a woman is.
00:05:42.760You know, the average person looks at all that stuff and they just think it's nuts.
00:05:45.540And I think the combination of all that, I have a very simple formula.
00:05:51.020If the Republicans go small, for example, if they run Herschel Walker against Womack, they might lose.
00:05:59.340On the other hand, if the Republicans go big and they run Herschel Walker against Biden and the entire Democratic Party disaster, they're going to win.
00:06:08.480And that's true in every state in the country.
00:06:11.600Mehmet Oz is going to beat Fetterman if it's a big issue election.
00:06:17.320Fetterman might squeak through if it's a small issue election.
00:06:20.860And you can just go around the country and you see this same pattern.
00:06:24.320So I'm very intrigued with what's going on.
00:06:28.700And I have enormous faith in the judgment of the American people.
00:06:33.820Let me turn to what you said at the very outset, that you think they're going to take as big a bath.
00:06:38.380They're going to take the radical Dems in the Senate as the House.
00:06:43.000I mean, we're talking to pollsters who are looking at 40 to 60 seats in the House, which would be, I mean, that's Newt Gingrich history levels.
00:06:55.220How do you really think it'll be that strong, that big?
00:07:01.480I think Kevin McCarthy has raised more money than any Republican speaker candidate in history, including me and including John Boehner.
00:07:09.620I think that the recruiting has been extraordinary.
00:07:13.520I mean, look at the young woman who was born in Mexico, came to America, a legal citizen, married a border agent, won a seat which had been very Democratic in a special election recently.
00:07:26.520She's just a harbinger of what's coming.
00:07:29.340And you go, you see this all over the country.
00:07:32.800The Democrats are relying on people being dumb enough to not figure out that expensive gasoline, expensive food, the shortage of baby infant formula, the existence of criminals on your neighborhood streets, that all these things are not just accidents.
00:07:48.880These are the result of policies of big government socialism, which is why I wrote a book called Defeating Big Government Socialism, because this is not a matter of bad policy.
00:08:00.320It's not a matter of Joe Biden had been cognitively impaired, whether he is or not.
00:08:51.480In the Senate, most of the analysts and the forecasters and strategists and pollsters I talk with are talking somewhere around a gain of maybe three, maybe four seats.
00:09:22.260I mean, if you look at Pennsylvania, here's Mehmet Oz's opportunity.
00:09:26.460He's got Democratic Party-led crime in the east.
00:09:30.000And he's got Democrat hostility to domestic energy in the west where Pennsylvania is one.
00:09:36.500I think it's the number four energy producing state in the country.
00:09:39.420And so all he's got to do is remind Pennsylvanians of what they have at stake.
00:09:47.240So I don't think we're not going to lose North Carolina, which is a state which is trending our way.
00:09:52.520Now, so then you look around and you start talking about potential pickups.
00:09:57.260I personally believe that Herschel Walker is going to beat Womack.
00:10:03.920I think that Womack is a very glib, very articulate preacher who advocates a hard left position, which in Georgia is about a 35 or 38 percent position.
00:10:16.560And all they've got to do is tie Womack directly to Biden, tie Womack's voting to inflation, to gasoline prices, to food prices, et cetera.
00:10:27.240And I think that they will just beat him.
00:10:29.900You go a little further away, I personally believe that New Hampshire's in play.
00:10:39.520Maggie Hassan has been considered the weakest Democrat incumbent up for reelection.
00:10:44.280And I think, again, come September and October, when people begin refilling their fuel tanks for the winter, the sticker shock in New Hampshire, as in Maine, is going to be horrendous.
00:10:58.740And people are going to say, we can't afford this.
00:11:02.000So, again, I think we're more in play in New Hampshire.
00:11:06.740One of the things people have a hard time understanding is that politics is not a Polaroid snapshot.
00:11:16.620You know, when we won in 94, the first time in 40 years, to have a House Republican majority, you couldn't have said in July that we were going to beat Chairman Danny Rostenkowski in downtown Chicago,
00:11:30.220or we were going to beat Speaker Tom Foley in Spokane, Washington.
00:11:34.800You couldn't predict those things, but you had a sense that things were moving.
00:11:41.760And what happens is these things accelerate.
00:11:47.020I think we have in Tiffany Smiley, a remarkably attractive candidate in Washington state against an incumbent whose sell-by date disappeared about eight years ago.
00:11:58.240I think there's no question in my mind that Adam Laxalt, former attorney general for Nevada, is going to win the Senate race there.
00:12:09.000Nevada is going to be a big Republican state this year because Latinos are moving away from the Democratic Party.
00:12:15.720I mean, one of the great realignments in history is swapping upper-class liberal college-educated Republicans for working-class Latinos, African-Americans, Asian-Americans.
00:12:29.500And the result is you're seeing in virtually every state in the country a rise in the number of Republicans.
00:12:36.940In fact, they announced either yesterday or this morning that for the first time ever in history, there are more registered Republicans in Kentucky than there are Democrats.
00:12:49.940In Florida, a state which had historically had more Democrats than Republicans, I think there are now 200,000 more Republicans and the margins widening every year.
00:13:02.740So you look at these kind of things happening out there and you have a sense, I think in Arizona, somebody made an estimate I just read this morning, that if 80 percent of the people who are mad about Biden vote against Mark Kelly, he loses.
00:13:17.820So the Republican only has to get 80 percent of the anti-Biden vote, and the odds are pretty high he's going to get more than 80 percent.
00:13:28.040So I think you can go around state by state and you suddenly realize, gee, this is going to be a lot different election than people were expecting.
00:13:38.140Yeah, it's – and as you're describing it, I have to tell you, I'm getting excited.
00:13:43.180I want to see you put the new majority philosophy that you're bringing to this in front of Herschel Walker, in front of Dr. Oz.
00:13:56.160Both men are actually perfect candidates to take your plan and analysis and bring it to life, I think, in both cases.
00:14:09.020Well, I think they're fascinating examples.
00:14:11.100You know, Mehmet Oz has been a national television figure ever since Oprah fell in love with him and you would have him on, you know, day after day offering medical advice.
00:15:36.840And Georgia, the thing to remember about Herschel Walker is that he is a legend.
00:15:41.720And the greatest danger Herschel faces right now is having a bunch of Republican consultants who don't have a clue try to teach him how to be a white senatorial candidate.
00:15:55.200What Herschel's got to do is be who he is.
00:16:04.680He has been very successful over and over again.
00:16:07.400He gave, I think, something like 480 speeches around the world on military bases talking about PTSD and talking about his own problems.
00:16:16.760The fact that, you know, when you got hit as often as he did, he had some problems, too.
00:16:22.280And I think, you know, he's got to he's got to run as Herschel and not run as some, you know, pseudo candidate trained by a bunch of guys that don't have a clue.
00:16:32.260So if he'll do that and if he'll go to say to people, look, I have a big heart, I love the country, I believe in sound conservative values, and I'm not the guy who has destroyed your family budget, wiped out your ability to buy a car and made sure you can't afford to eat very well.
00:16:49.900That guy's, you know, his name Womack and he is Warnock.
00:16:53.140And he is, by the way, Biden's choice.
00:16:55.560So you decide you want you want the Georgia choice, which is Herschel Walker, or you want the Biden choice, which is Warnock.
00:17:04.460I think Warnock loses that race by a surprising margin.
00:17:08.780And if you were to not know either man and you were to have them just stand on a stage somewhere to the side and you'd say, which one is the is the is the leftist and which is on the right?
00:17:24.140I don't know what your answer would be.
00:17:26.540But when you look at both men and you say, which one is the most relatable and comes across as the warmest, that is Herschel Walker, without a doubt.
00:17:36.740Without a doubt. And Herschel is one of the classiest guys I know.
00:17:43.560He's just he's just a remarkable individual.
00:17:46.700And, yes, he's got some baggage and he's got some issues that, you know, that Warnock will play to till, you know, the cows come home.
00:17:58.580Well, and I think part of it's just authenticity.
00:18:03.000You know, Warnock is an authentic preacher, used to leading his flock from the pulpit and used to saying whatever gets the collection to be good enough that Sunday.
00:18:13.960And Warnock is a hard line left wing, you know, beyond liberal.
00:18:18.240I mean, he fits perfectly into the radical wing of the Democratic Party.
00:18:21.160You may consider this overstatement, but I just call him flat out a Marxist Democrat.
00:18:28.340I'll accept that because, look, I think virtually all of them now are, for all practical purposes, Marxist.
00:18:34.860None of them have a clue about free enterprise.
00:18:37.200There was a study done, I think, by Steve Moore that I think he looked at 65 different appointees, none of whom, not a single one, had any private sector experience.
00:18:48.220I mean, you look at Buttigieg, who the Washington Post thinks is the second most likely Democratic nominee in 24.
00:18:55.140Buttigieg might know a little bit about bicycles, but he's in charge of the nation's air traffic system.
00:19:01.640And we've had thousands and thousands of flights delayed under Buttigieg.
00:19:06.500He doesn't have any idea what he's doing.
00:19:10.280I mean, this is a this is a gathering of people who would not know reality if he walked up to them and poured water on their head.
00:19:19.840If the supply chain is anathema to Buttigieg and Biden, all of whom seem to think that is like a string of Christmas lights.
00:19:30.440That just what goes on one after the other, they don't seem to quite understand.
00:19:35.960It's far more complex than a string of Christmas lights, which seems to be the the metaphor of great utility right now.
00:19:44.000I just get a kick out of the silliness that the the leaders of these departments display.
00:19:50.580They're they're trivial when it comes to their talent and the the issues they're dealing with are are momentous, unprecedented in many cases.
00:20:02.060And they simply don't have the firepower to deal with it.
00:20:06.920Well, there are two parts to that, actually.
00:20:10.000And this is why I wrote defeating big government socialism.
00:20:13.240I don't want them to get away with just being incompetent, because then the next cycle comes up and new ones emerge and they say, oh, but this time we're competent.
00:20:24.120The fact is, not only are they incompetent, but what they believe isn't true.
00:20:32.160He said, I'm not frightened by what they don't know.
00:20:34.880I'm frightened by what they know that isn't true.
00:20:37.140And I always tell people, if you want to understand why they're so bad at dealing with violence, whether it's criminals or terrorists or foreign policy, it's really simple.
00:20:46.920These are people who saw The Lion King and thought it was a documentary.
00:20:53.380And they actually think that lions and zebras sing and dance together.
00:20:59.160And we keep trying to tell them, you know, in the real world, lions eat zebras.
00:23:26.720And, you know, we've been very fortunate.
00:23:30.260We've been endowed by a system unlike any other country in the world where it says that our creator endowed us with certain inalienable rights,
00:23:41.740among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:23:45.720And I'm almost always happy in part because, you know, if you've been told by God you're allowed
00:23:51.220to pursue happiness, what is your excuse for being unhappy?
00:24:49.700And again, it's possible that we're going to win in Colorado.
00:24:54.260Now, you wouldn't I wouldn't bet a lot of money on it, but I know what the results are like in the polling.
00:25:00.120It's possible you're going to see a sweep in Oregon because people are so sick of night after night Antifa breaking the law with impunity,
00:25:09.240setting the federal courthouse on fire.
00:25:11.700I mean, you're watching the decay of civilization.
00:25:14.660When Starbucks announces that in 16 sites, they're closing them because they can't cope with the degree to which the bathrooms have become drug dense.
00:25:23.880You know that this is literally the decay of civilization.
00:25:27.480And the question is whether or not the American people are prepared to put their foot down and say, you know, enough is enough.
00:25:34.240And my hunch is because I do so deeply believe in the people that the people are smarter than the politicians and smarter than the news media.
00:25:44.520And I think that they're likely to come roaring back and insist on the changes necessary to have a safe, free and prosperous country.
00:25:52.340Yeah, I think we talk about the people being smarter than our politicians and our news media that might be taken as faint praise fairly.
00:26:03.760It's just amazing to me, the quality of people that we have in office now.
00:26:11.400I want to, as we, and I know we're pressing up on time here, but I do want to get a sense from you as to whether or not Donald Trump will run,
00:26:23.160what you think the implications are if he does or does not.
00:26:26.220Well, I think if his doctor tells him he's healthy enough, he'll probably run.
00:26:31.440I know he's very concerned that he doesn't want to run if he's going to end up like Biden.
00:26:38.400I think he finds it embarrassing for America and dangerous for America to have a president who's this cognitively weak and this unstable.
00:26:48.000But let's assume for a minute that his doctor says you're in great shape, Donald.
00:27:40.260I have very great respect for DeSantis.
00:27:44.160In addition, you've got Pence, who I think has been has grown in stature as people realized how much pressure he was under and that he did what he honestly believed in.
00:27:53.720I think you've got Pompeo, who's very competent, Nikki Haley, who was effective at the U.N., a number of governors who might run, including the governor of New Hampshire, Sununu.
00:28:06.400So, I mean, if Trump does decide to run, he just needs to understand it's not going to be a gimme.
00:28:22.540But I do think that the fact that he didn't slow down, he didn't think through what had what didn't work and he didn't develop a positive program for the future, I think, gave other people a year in which to fill a vacuum where there's still enormous affection for Trump.
00:28:44.220But there's also a willingness to consider somebody else.
00:28:46.920Yeah, let me throw out a few, a few, if I may, countervailing thoughts on that issue.
00:28:55.420One is he is still the most popular politician in the country, period, bar none.
00:29:00.640In all of the polling that I have seen, he beats DeSantis like a like a drum.
00:29:09.100And there is no one, there is no, you know, other candidate that approaches, you mentioned Pompeo, Nikki Haley.
00:29:18.980And as you said, they were effective in their roles.
00:29:22.360But those roles were bestowed on them by President Trump.
00:29:26.000And in fact, Nikki Haley is as a you and I both know, a U.N. ambassador is is a mouthpiece and is, you know, aping the plans of the of the State Department of the White House.
00:29:39.800And so I'm not particularly impressed with her.
00:32:56.840I don't think the founding fathers designed this system for the vice president to be much more, frankly, than a clerical function in terms of the electoral college.
00:33:09.400It's their job to receive the votes from the states.
00:33:12.280The members of the Congress have the opportunity to contest them.
00:33:18.920And some were prepared to do that prior to the riot that broke out.
00:33:23.040But I think it would have been very wrong for Pence and I think unconstitutional for Pence to have arbitrarily tried to do things.
00:33:33.340That's just my personal view, both as a former speaker of the House and as a historian.
00:33:37.780In my view, it's just a mere citizen is I think that Pence probably did with I shouldn't say probably did what he thought was right.
00:33:53.180And I agree that as vice president, he should not have had been put in that position to have to make a choice about who would be president.
00:34:03.300I don't think that our founders contemplated that possibility nor that authority.
00:34:43.180The American people, you are like me, a man who believes in a government of the people, by the people, for the people.
00:34:49.840Are the people, in your judgment, smart enough to see this for the for the absolute blasphemy it is, this January 6th committee?
00:35:00.180Well, I think if you truly, deeply hate Trump, you love this committee.
00:35:06.200I think, however, if you don't hate Trump, you don't have to like him.
00:35:10.400You just have to be in the you know, he deserves a fair break.
00:35:13.680This committee is a Stalinist show trial in exactly the Bolshevik model that Lenin invented.
00:35:21.040I am appalled that Liz Cheney has become the leading anti-Republican, anti-Trump, really leader of the committee.
00:35:31.180What they've done is a total, I think, abomination.
00:35:36.260It is a violation of every principle of the Bill of Rights.
00:35:39.380It absolutely has put people in positions where they have not had legal protection.
00:35:45.300They haven't had the right to counsel they should have.
00:35:49.060And the fact that they have over a thousand videotapes and over 25,000 documents just tells you there's something profoundly sick about that committee.
00:36:00.460And it's typical of the Pelosi dictatorship.
00:36:03.040And frankly, if you want to know who was the most responsible for January the 6th, it's Speaker Pelosi, who specifically has the obligation to protect the Capitol and who failed totally to protect the Capitol, even when President Trump offered 20,000 National Guardsmen, which would have preempted any possible problem.
00:36:24.680Absolutely, I concur 100%, as I almost in everything, always do when talking with Newt Gingrich.
00:36:36.040It's a delight always to talk with you, to have you with us here.