The Great America Show - GOP DIVIDED： JOHN MCLAUGHLIN SAYS PRES. TRUMP IS VERY POPULAR BUT RINOS DON’T WANT HIM DESPITE THE SUCCESS OF HIS PRESIDENCY & POLICIES

00:00:00.000 Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to the Great America Show.

00:00:04.940 Times are tough for Republicans these days, independents, patriots, all who thought but

00:00:10.760 perhaps didn't entirely believe that a great big red wave would sweep Republicans to victory

00:00:16.960 and return the Senate and House to a Republican majority, a clear majority. It is now clear that

00:00:24.820 that isn't going to happen. In fact, there was nothing approaching a big red wave, not even a

00:00:30.860 red wave, no wave at all. While votes are still being counted in Nevada and Arizona, and maybe

00:00:38.260 for weeks to come, the Republicans sound like they're monumentally naive, talking about vote

00:00:44.920 dumps, smeared ballots, lost ballots, and what a mess, they complain. But not a surprise mess,

00:00:52.360 or at least it shouldn't be. Republicans got handled in 2020 as well. They should have known

00:00:58.800 better this time, but were beguiled by some of the pollsters whose polls showed, for example,

00:01:04.920 Carrie Lake and the Arizona governor's race with a double-digit lead. She's behind her opponent, 0.99

00:01:11.820 Democrat Katie Hobbs, right now. She says she's still confident she'll win. We all hope she does.

00:01:18.680 But Katie Hobbs is, after all, in charge of the Arizona election. She's the Secretary of State, 0.98

00:01:26.340 for crying out loud. And I'm not sure that Lake's optimism will be rewarded this time.

00:01:32.600 And no, I'm not an election denier, as the Marxist Dems like to call those of us who

00:01:38.140 question election results. I don't know anyone who denies elections. Obviously, we had elections.

00:01:45.360 It's the Dems who are the deniers. They deny, they continue to deny, the elections are crooked.

00:01:54.320 They're crooked deniers. They're the deniers. And frankly, I think the rest of us have played the

00:01:59.900 roles of dupes in our elections for some time. But certainly the last two elections have pitted

00:02:05.960 the Democrat deniers against the Republican dupes. There it is. So we still at least have a shot at

00:02:13.840 winning back the House. We have a narrow advantage at this point. With 19 more races to be decided,

00:02:21.040 the GOP has 212 seats, Democrats with 204. The GOP needs another six seats to win control.

00:02:30.920 The Democrats need another 14 seats. But after what we've already witnessed, who wants to bet on the

00:02:38.220 outcome? I'll just cross my fingers and hope. But one of my hopes is that after the Republican

00:02:44.260 performance in this election, I truly and firmly believe the Republican Party rank and file must

00:02:51.300 demand that party leaders resign. I mean, Ronna McDaniel, RNC chair, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell

00:02:59.620 and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy. They failed. They failed in this election. They've got to go.

00:03:06.940 And they've got to make way for smarter, more energetic, talented leaders who represent the

00:03:12.760 modern party. A party dedicated to our middle class, to our families, parental rights, to all who are

00:03:19.520 working, aspiring to be middle class, to live the American dream. The party that puts America first

00:03:26.640 in every way. Our guest today is one of the Republican Party's foremost strategists and pollsters.

00:03:32.600 And we talked the day after the election about the red wave that wasn't and the responsibility

00:03:39.620 of Republican Party leaders. John McLaughlin, founder of the McLaughlin Group. John, what do you see here

00:03:47.860 amidst the overall disappointment for Republicans in this election?

00:03:52.420 In terms of we're going to have the House, but not at the margins that we want to have.

00:03:57.560 One of the big takeaways from the 2020 race that the Republicans have not learned is the Republican

00:04:03.820 ground game is an anachronism. And we wait for election day to win the race, and the Democrats

00:04:11.160 are racking up huge margins that were forced to play catch-up in most of these states.

00:04:17.180 So when you look at Pennsylvania and you realize they have the same election law from 2020 called

00:04:25.000 Act 77 that allows them to bank votes absentee through ballot harvesting. And then Oz goes into

00:04:33.060 that race where before he even debates Fetterman, he's down a ratio of three to one in absentee ballots.

00:04:42.080 So you've got a serious problem where you're already losing the race by hundreds of thousands

00:04:49.540 of votes, and you're trying to make it all up on election day. And that went on in other states as

00:04:55.460 well, where you have like in Arizona, the Democrats have banked votes. Certainly it went on in Georgia

00:05:04.420 with Herschel Walker, although this time it was more honest because if you voted absentee or if

00:05:12.260 you voted in person, you needed voter ID to prove that. And the drop boxes, the unsecured drop boxes,

00:05:18.880 they got rid of. So you're in a situation where, okay, the ballot harvesting has stopped.

00:05:26.480 And I'm sure, by the way, I'm sure if that law wasn't changed, Warnock would have won without a runoff.

00:05:31.900 But now they're headed for a runoff. And, you know, so we've got to think, you know,

00:05:39.000 tactically, like the Democrats do, they don't have election day, they have election month,

00:05:44.940 they come in and they're banking votes, and the Republicans are playing catch up the whole time.

00:05:49.340 So we've got to fix that. And that's certainly what happened. A big reason what happened in

00:05:53.500 Pennsylvania. Second thing is, when you have primaries, the Democrats automatically when their

00:06:00.320 primary is over, they come together. Republicans, we still fight. You know, when you hear the talk

00:06:06.440 about the quality of the candidates, you know, that Donald Trump endorsed, it's a euphemism for,

00:06:13.580 oh, it's a Trump candidate, we don't want to support them. I mean, Mike Lee got a primary,

00:06:18.540 not a primary, got a general election opponent in Utah. And Herschel Walker, they're saying all the

00:06:24.180 quality of the candidate, well, you should be talking up that candidate the way they talk up,

00:06:28.820 you know, their own candidates. And, you know, you look at they put money into, we're putting money

00:06:34.580 into a race in Alaska, Murkowski against Chewbacca, where they're both Republicans. But the national

00:06:43.020 leadership is spending money there. And, you know, they spent money in primaries to defeat candidates.

00:06:48.160 And then they're still running them down after the primary. So Republicans, we still fight after

00:06:53.780 our primaries going into election day, the Democrats have united against us. And, and certainly,

00:07:00.000 you know, as far as messages go, we still have to figure out how to how to attract Democrats,

00:07:06.920 particularly in states where there's Democrat registration advantages to come over to our side

00:07:12.760 and realize that, hey, inflation, crime, the crisis at the border, we need to get attract voters so

00:07:23.220 that they can't, the Democrats can't, you know, unite enough for their party, so that they win on

00:07:29.780 messages like threats to democracy and abortion. Because, you know, it just, it, we, we still need

00:07:38.500 to take some of their votes. We have to win independence decisively, and we have to take

00:07:42.520 some of their votes. And you only get that with, with messages.

00:07:47.240 John, as, as I, as I listened here to you and the audience, I hear a clear call for a change of

00:07:55.840 leadership in the Republican Party apparatus, whether it be at the Republican National Committee,

00:08:01.720 whether it be, whether it be on Capitol Hill. They, the leadership of the Republican Party has failed

00:08:08.440 again. And I don't care what the margin is at the end, frankly, now, it is not the margin that

00:08:15.520 Republicans should have achieved, given hyperinflation, given an economy that is in distress,

00:08:23.620 millions of Americans who are in financial distress. A, this is just an incredible moment to me to see

00:08:33.500 that this midterm election was not a referendum on the Democratic Party and its leadership in the

00:08:42.300 White House, throughout the federal government, in both houses, and by the way, in state houses as

00:08:48.900 well. It's incredible that the leadership is so weak, so intellectually puny, that they cannot contend in a

00:08:58.860 real dogfight and a seriously important fight that should have been, I think, overwhelming in favor of

00:09:08.960 Republicans. Your thoughts? Well, I, I can certainly talk tactics and strategy, but as far as a leadership

00:09:16.340 fight, that's going to be up to the senators and members of Congress that get elected, and they'll

00:09:21.660 decide that. But I tell you, the one thing that started is the Republican primary for president has

00:09:26.640 started. And Donald Trump has not announced, he's announced that he's going to announce, and I think

00:09:31.720 a lot of this will focus on that in terms of, you know, the Republican base, President Trump is still

00:09:38.280 very popular. But unfortunately, there's still a lot of, you know, rhinos that want to, that don't want him to 0.97

00:09:46.000 come back in spite of the success of his presidency, in spite of the success of his policies. I think we're

00:09:52.580 going to see, I think we're going to see a situation where those kind of, that will play out just like it did with

00:10:00.120 Ronald Reagan back in, when you look from 76 to 80. You know, there was, there was challenges to Ronald Reagan, where some

00:10:09.660 people I remember, they were saying, Phil Crane is the younger version, the better looking version. And Ronald Reagan

00:10:15.540 had to, after he lost the Iowa caucus, he had to come back and win the New Hampshire primary to prove that his message

00:10:22.640 was right. So now you're going to see, you know, everybody's expecting Donald Trump to run for president

00:10:28.060 again. And certainly, I believe he would beat Joe Biden decisively. But there's going to be primaries, and there's going to be a

00:10:37.000 challenge in the nomination contest. And it's a gauntlet, it's not a quick sprint, you're going to

00:10:42.420 have a, the first contest won't happen until the Iowa caucus in 2024. But all during the year, you're going to have a

00:10:50.540 gauntlet where people are saying, you know, is it going to be Trump? Is it going to be DeSantis? Is it going to be

00:10:56.540 somebody else? And, you know, that's, that's going to be the, that's going to be the contest and the

00:11:03.800 focus within the party right now. Okay, I, I take it, you don't want to talk about, well, I, I,

00:11:10.760 and I understandably, internecing battles, as it were. But the fact is, one thing I'll say about what's

00:11:18.840 going on with the leadership, I think, as far as the Senate goes, if, if Herschel Walker ends up in a

00:11:25.080 runoff, and we don't win that seat, that's, that's certainly a signal that there's got to be a

00:11:30.880 change. I mean, there's, there's, and there's got to be a change, not just of tactics about how you get

00:11:37.500 out the early vote before that December 6, runoff election, not just the messages that we're running

00:11:44.880 on, but certainly, you know, what are we doing to put Raphael Warnock and Chuck Schumer

00:11:50.900 on the defense? I mean, they're going to put us on the defense. So, so there's, so that I think,

00:11:58.820 again, it's like deja vu all over again. Here we've woken up and it's Grand Hog Day. We are going to have

00:12:05.500 a runoff in Georgia for U.S. Senate. And exactly. And the leadership should stake, you know, it's going

00:12:15.520 to, because it's going to matter. They should stake their claim to leadership on success in that race.

00:12:22.420 Yeah. I, I think, if I may say it, I think that there is more proximate evidence that a, a change

00:12:30.200 in leadership is critically necessary to the fortunes of the Republican party. And that is,

00:12:35.380 Ronna McDaniel once again bragged about the ground game, about the engagement of volunteers

00:12:41.260 and attorneys across the country. They didn't show up anywhere. Not a single place do I know of

00:12:48.880 where there was a confrontation between Republicans and the Democrats over the conduct of the election,

00:12:56.860 not in Arizona, not in Pennsylvania, not in Wisconsin. This is a, this is an absurdity.

00:13:03.200 It is a fiction. Leadership is a fictional word for the Republican party right now. And it takes

00:13:10.980 us back to the loss of when good old Mitt Romney and his, it's his idiot associate, Paul Ryan lost 1.00

00:13:22.480 in 2012. We had, we had gurus rocking around saying, they're absolutely going to win. They're 0.99

00:13:29.000 going to win. They're going to win. They did an autopsy as Reince Priebus, then the chair of

00:13:33.960 the RNC called it. And an autopsy was exactly the correct language. He didn't use correct language

00:13:39.940 before that, but he, he had that one, right. And the fact is it was the same failure. The inability

00:13:46.000 to connect with state and local organizations, the inability to be anything more than a fat

00:13:52.300 overblown fundraising operation. That is a fraudulent when it comes to the, the role of party leadership.

00:14:01.540 It's got, Ronna McDaniel has got to go for God's sakes. How many elections can she lose and still 1.00

00:14:09.200 be listened to? She's out in front of the press with her hair just perfectly coiffed, I believe 0.98

00:14:15.580 is the word. Uh, and, uh, you know, talking to some, uh, you know, uh, uh, some clever anchor on cable

00:14:25.940 news and making no sense at all. No sense. What are we to do here? Should, should the troops just

00:14:34.060 keep marching blindly ahead with the same mediocrities at the, at the helm? Well, I think

00:14:40.920 what you're going to see is you're going to see the, the grassroots and the, uh, and the donors.

00:14:47.080 Um, and I'm not talking about the inside the beltway corporate donors. They're, they're in a different

00:14:53.420 class and they're, they're oftentimes they're too close to the Democrats, but the grassroots people

00:14:58.360 that actually give to the Republican party, they're going to wait and see, because this is,

00:15:03.140 you know, there's a big question about, um, you know, precisely of like, why are we giving to the

00:15:10.180 Republican national committee if we're getting beat? I mean, this is like, we're starting a football

00:15:15.940 game and we're already losing before they have by hundreds of thousands of votes in a lot of contests.

00:15:23.420 And we can't, we can't do that anymore. By the way, Florida, I mean, you know, going back to when

00:15:30.040 I worked for Jeb Bush after the 2000 election, I worked in his reelection in 2002. I mean, he was a

00:15:35.940 great governor, but they fixed the election law. So Republicans have it down to a science in, and

00:15:42.100 Susie Wiles who works for president Trump, they have it down to a science where, okay, this is how many 1.00

00:15:47.940 early absentees we're going to put in. This is how many, uh, we know who votes early in person.

00:15:54.160 We're going to get our troops out to vote early in person, and then we're going to win on election

00:15:58.280 day. And the places where Nassau County, New York, the Republicans there picked up two congressional

00:16:05.500 seats, picked up three state Senate seats. Uh, they delivered 55% of the vote in a county that has

00:16:11.900 8% more Democrats. They delivered 55% of the vote for, uh, Lee Zeldin because the chairman out there,

00:16:18.980 Joe Cairo engages in absentee ballots and, and runs even with the Democrats in the early in person

00:16:26.960 voting. And then they beat them on election day, just like they do in Florida. But the national

00:16:32.160 committee, we don't see that big infinite emphasis on, we need to win the absentees. We need to win

00:16:39.960 the early in person voting. We need to win on election day. And, uh, you know, that I, you

00:16:47.040 know, I don't like to go into a, into a contest where we haven't played the first quarter and all

00:16:52.240 of a sudden we're down, you know, 30, 40 points and you're playing catch up to win the game. So, uh,

00:16:58.600 and that, that happened across the board. Yes. And, and the next, you know, and, and two things

00:17:05.340 disturbed me and I will be straightforward about it, uh, initially going into this. And that is

00:17:11.300 that Ronna McDaniel was still at the RNC and was talking confidently. Uh, I know by personal

00:17:17.060 experience that her remarks about either confident or otherwise are not reliable. And the next was the

00:17:24.060 return of, of the, uh, rather, uh, outsized figure of Brad Parscale, who, I mean, what is going on

00:17:32.920 with these defeated characters, uh, is still in place. If there is no penalty except for our

00:17:40.260 press, only President Trump gets to pay the penalty, uh, and, uh, and a handful of candidates

00:17:46.060 without any change, uh, it's, it just can't go on. There has to be consequence for failure and

00:17:53.140 those two figures, and then we'll leave it. But those two figures, uh, have got to be replaced.

00:17:59.640 By the way, one more comment I want to make Lewis. I just got, you know, I just got back from, well,

00:18:06.140 I was during the summer, I was commuting back and forth to Israel because they called an election

00:18:11.900 early in the year. I worked in Hungary. Right. And, and during this election, some of prime

00:18:19.320 minister Orban's leadership, political leadership team was in the United States to observe the

00:18:24.260 election. Specifically, they went to Pennsylvania. They went to Trump rally. They also, uh, uh,

00:18:29.620 day before election and election day were in New York observing the governor's election. And when I

00:18:35.280 explained to them the problem in Pennsylvania, and I wasn't working direct in the Oz campaign

00:18:40.480 about the mail-in ballots, the absentee ballots and about, they were mailing absentees to people that

00:18:46.480 they don't have IDs for and that they could take absentees in the week after the election.

00:18:52.280 And, uh, in New York state, that they don't require voter ID and that the unions and the Democrats

00:18:58.280 get out to vote. And we, we have no way of stopping people because you don't have voter ID. Uh, and it's

00:19:05.000 a signature verification. Uh, but when I explained that to them, the Hungarians told me this is like 0.95

00:19:12.500 1947 when the communists won the election and they, they, you know, they, they, they stuffed the ballots

00:19:20.420 with ballots that they didn't know were legitimate. And in Israel, I was working for prime minister

00:19:25.160 Netanyahu over there. Um, and, and in Israel, everybody had, you have to vote in person. It's

00:19:33.460 one day and you have to show up with voter ID and that's it. And it's a paper ballot that they're

00:19:39.160 going to count so that they have a record of it. And the, the Europeans, most Europeans, when I talk to

00:19:44.900 them, they can't believe that in America, um, you have a system where voter ID is not required in all

00:19:51.920 the states and there, there's all these possibilities for fraud. Um, and they just find that incredible

00:19:59.420 that America is this country that's supposed to be the, you know, the, the great honest democracy

00:20:04.780 and there's doubts. And, uh, um, you know, so it's, it's, to me, it's like, you know, we're,

00:20:12.540 you know, we're, we've got to change our tactics, but we really do have to step up to fight for

00:20:17.660 election integrity because Democrats are going to come back with more election laws where like

00:20:23.100 in New York, they tried to allow non-citizens to vote. Illegal immigrants would be voting in New 1.00

00:20:28.300 York, in the city. If, if that hadn't been overturned in court and the RNC did fight that

00:20:34.100 they were successful, but there were local Republicans and the conservative party in New

00:20:38.160 York fighting that as well. And, uh, you know, we were successful. And by the way, if we gain a

00:20:44.380 majority, which we will, we'll gain a majority in the house, but a lot of those gains were based on

00:20:51.600 Florida where the governor down there decided to redo the redistricting. So he gave more seats and

00:20:58.620 they picked up, but it looks like four seats there. And in New York, where we challenged the law, uh,

00:21:04.520 based on the fact that they threw out the redistricting commission and, uh, uh, the conservative

00:21:09.760 party, the Republican party, Ronald Lauder, they challenged this law. And it appears we've picked

00:21:15.020 up seats in New York because we threw out the Democrat gerrymandering. And instead of losing

00:21:20.520 seats, we've picked up, uh, probably four congressional seats in New York. So eight seats out of whatever

00:21:27.200 gains Kevin McCarthy has came out of those two States based on people fighting back at the grassroots

00:21:32.960 level. Yeah. And Kevin McCarthy, uh, is neither strategist nor tactician and yet, uh, presses on,

00:21:41.020 uh, Mitch McConnell, let's be straightforward. I mean, he took on candidates, uh, whether it was in

00:21:47.400 New Hampshire, uh, he, Arizona, he decided he was, he was going to actually, uh, fight them and not fund

00:21:57.020 them. Uh, uh, this is the behavior of, uh, uh, uh, a petulant, uh, tyrant, not a majority leader. Uh, it's

00:22:05.620 un, it's unworthy of the Republican party. Uh, either that or the Republican party is just demonstrating

00:22:13.880 election after election that it no longer has, uh, the, the, the vigor, uh, and the, and the motivation

00:22:22.700 to prevail. And if that's the case, why don't we just start all over? Because this is a, this is

00:22:28.360 idiocy to continue this, uh, this, the, the, these theatrics where you have a majority leader and you 0.99

00:22:35.460 have a minority leader, you have a, I mean, come on, uh, these people are nothing more than take 0.98

00:22:41.280 their mouth breathers and they're taking up space, John. Well, I think the focus of the voters is going

00:22:47.440 to be on the, on the, on the presidential primaries. I mean, we're a year out, but, you know, they're,

00:22:53.520 they're already lining up and if president Trump gets in, he will be the favorite. And then we will

00:22:59.500 see that we'll see what will happen when, when, uh, uh, you know, basically the swamp and the, uh,

00:23:06.780 the, the, the, you know, the, the anachronistic leaders in the party decide to take him on and,

00:23:12.300 and we'll have a lively primary just, and I said, you know, I'm, I'm an old man in this, in this, uh,

00:23:19.160 in this, uh, in this, uh, uh, trade. But for those of us who remember Ronald Reagan, when he, he had to

00:23:25.920 win the, he had to win the primaries in 1980, I mean, we're going to see the same kind of ball now.

00:23:31.420 And there were lots of candidates that went into that primary. You had John Anderson, you had Phil

00:23:36.760 Crane. I mean, Phil Crane was going to be the young version of Ronald Reagan. And that just fizzled out.

00:23:41.620 John Connolly, I mean, and George, George HW Bush ended up winning Iowa, uh, that, that, uh, after

00:23:49.920 that, when, uh, uh, you know, president Reagan had to, or then Ronald Reagan had to come back and

00:23:55.240 win New Hampshire and, and recaptured the nomination. John Anderson, John Anderson, Ross Perot. I mean,

00:24:01.460 the, the day of the truly effective, uh, or destructive third party candidate. Uh, those are,

00:24:09.120 those were good times. Also frustrating times for the Republican party. I, I, I, let's, let's go to

00:24:16.260 just a couple of other things. Biden's low approval. Here's a man who drew more votes in his basement

00:24:22.360 than Barack Obama did, uh, going coast to coast and, uh, working like heck on the campaign

00:24:29.120 Hustings. Uh, his, his, his low approval rating, lower than, than Obama's. Uh, meanwhile, he has the

00:24:38.720 best midterm election return record, uh, of his own party members. Uh, he, he lost fewer people,

00:24:46.600 uh, than any other president in the midterm right now. What do you think? Well, uh, you know,

00:24:54.300 is he, is he lucky or is he just sort of, uh, uh, is he one of those, uh, idiot savants? 0.99

00:25:00.960 No, as a, as a, by the way, as a, as a matter of personal, uh, uh, you know, uh, my work, I, I'm, 0.99

00:25:07.920 I'm happy he's still around because, uh, president Trump will beat him in the next election. But, uh,

00:25:13.460 but in the meantime, uh, you know, what's amazing is you've got a president that they disapprove.

00:25:19.720 They think the country's on the wrong track. They think we're in a recession. They think the

00:25:23.700 economy is getting worse, not better. And they're able to survive because the media and them are

00:25:28.500 carrying a message where they're, uh, uh, worried about threats to democracy of which they should

00:25:33.800 look in the mirrors. And then, uh, also the, you know, abortion and other issues, but the economy

00:25:40.340 is going to get worse, not better. And you're not going to be able to blame it on a Republican

00:25:45.380 majority in the, in the house or the Senate, but, you know, him depleting the strategic oil reserves

00:25:51.460 to keep price of gas, you know, only double what it was when president Trump was president,

00:25:57.060 uh, them, you know, it's not going to help inflation and supermarkets with food, et cetera.

00:26:03.700 So, um, you know, the Republicans better get a message together and an economic program

00:26:09.060 together to fix this because if they don't, uh, the country is going to really suffer.

00:26:14.280 So, uh, uh, so how can the country suffer more? Really? I mean, we don't have a Southern border.

00:26:20.740 We have central and South America sending as many people, uh, to the United States as they wish at 0.99

00:26:27.100 the invitation of Joe Biden and his administration. Uh, we are right now, our white house is operating as

00:26:33.580 a subsidiary of, uh, the CCP incorporated. Uh, it is doing absolutely nothing, uh, to, to, uh, to blunt

00:26:44.220 the initiatives of China. It is turning over oil from the strategic petroleum reserves that on one

00:26:50.340 hand, Joe Biden says he's doing so that he could benefit consumers. And I think by the way, there are

00:26:55.220 a significant group of Americans dumb enough to actually believe that. When in point of fact, 0.99

00:26:59.920 uh, he's diverting oil from the strategic petroleum reserves, a national security breach of the

00:27:05.440 highest order to put in the hands of Chinese communist, uh, connected companies. It's outrageous. 0.66

00:27:13.200 Oh, by the way, and those companies, those companies were clients of Hunter Biden and the big guy.

00:27:19.740 Right. And, and by the way, you can still go find those Russian oligarchs that had Biden on the

00:27:24.960 payroll or the Biden family on the payroll, and they didn't get sanctioned by the

00:27:29.740 Biden administration. Right. So, you know, so, but we've got Mitch McConnell with a little conflict

00:27:36.360 too. Yeah. But you know what, go back, go back a second. You know, the Republicans, they're going to

00:27:41.820 be the, the, the swamp, the inside the beltway experts will tell McCarthy and tell McConnell,

00:27:48.300 oh, you don't want to open up those hearings on Biden. Because if you start doing those hearings,

00:27:54.300 it'll be divisive, it'll make, you know, it'll, it'll keep us apart. We won't be able to do business

00:28:01.060 in Washington. I mean, we really need to have hearings on the corruption that's gone on because

00:28:08.620 middle America is suffering because of it. And by the way, one other thing you, I mean,

00:28:15.720 I still believe if Donald Trump was president, Putin would have never gone into Ukraine.

00:28:19.980 And I still believe he's there, you know, prosecuting that war precisely because Biden is too weak

00:28:26.840 to, to stop him from, to stop him from, you know, person, you know, killing thousands of Ukrainians 0.79

00:28:35.080 all the time, because this is just, I mean, that war is, is, is it, is just terrible because it just

00:28:42.240 shows how corrupt, what corruption leads to and weakness leads to. And it, you know, I guess the

00:28:49.360 surrender of Afghanistan gave Putin a signal that it's okay, he can go into Ukraine and just kill 0.86

00:28:56.560 people and take what he wants. But he never would have done that if Donald Trump was president. So,

00:29:01.800 you know, we're, you're talking about the American economy. I'm talking about the American economy.

00:29:06.620 I mean, there is a very, very dangerous situation with Putin and what's going on with our NATO and our

00:29:14.280 allies there. And I don't think Joe Biden's capable of stopping it. And, you know, so there's real,

00:29:20.880 there, there, there's really dangerous issues out there that, you know, the American people are going

00:29:26.700 to have to take a hard look at and say, what do we need to do? What do we need to do to keep peace

00:29:30.880 in the world? Because there is no Pax Americana in the world right now. And that's the first time

00:29:36.680 since World War Two that that's happened. Well, and you're exactly right, I believe in your analysis, 1.00

00:29:42.660 I, I also want to add that for the first time, we have apparently discussions going on with the

00:29:49.560 Russian government at a lower level than Secretary of State or foreign minister, but nonetheless going

00:29:56.260 on about the withdrawal of you of Russian forces at the behest of the US government. That's a

00:30:03.960 breakthrough because this government, this president was actually encouraging Zelensky to continue the

00:30:11.200 fight in what is now an almost nine month long war that has devastated, devastated Ukraine. Yes. And

00:30:19.960 it's fueled, by the way, what's worse than that, it's wrecking the European economies. I mean, they're going

00:30:25.680 to have austerity measures in place where you can't raise up the temperature in buildings, you're going to have

00:30:30.580 to cut back on manufacturing. You have to Christmas, they're going to close like gyms and public

00:30:36.140 facilities because they don't have the oil and gas. And, but they're idiotic. I mean, let's be really 1.00

00:30:41.940 honest. The Europeans are moronic. Donald Trump explained to Angela Merkel, if you buy all of that natural gas 1.00

00:30:51.860 from Russia, you will be utterly dependent upon Russia for your heating. It's just amazing the stupidity 1.00

00:31:02.020 of it. And by the way, you know what the stupidity that we can add to that is the stupidity of the 1.00

00:31:06.980 American people tolerating Biden sending billions and billions by the tens of billions into Ukraine to do 1.00

00:31:15.460 what? To fight a slow victory for Vladimir Putin. Yes. And the blood that has been spilled, the lives

00:31:24.100 that have been lost because this administration didn't have the fortitude to say to Putin, there

00:31:29.780 will be no invasion. That will not happen. That could have been Joe Biden. It could have been a moment in

00:31:37.620 history for him. And instead he bowed to the oligarchs and to the moment. It's ridiculous. It's just

00:31:46.100 sickening, but it is at least some, some cold comfort that they're talking about. You know, perhaps a full

00:31:55.020 withdrawal. Let me ask you this, this red wave turned into a Republican bloodletting. What, what can,

00:32:05.060 you know, I, I don't know what the markets are going to do. I don't know what business is going

00:32:08.660 to do. I think we are, as you say, we're in a very delicate moment, uh, in terms of markets and

00:32:14.100 economies, not only here, but around the world. But what are, should the Republican do? They refuse

00:32:21.060 to talk about foreign policy, uh, intelligently in a campaign. They refuse to acknowledge what is

00:32:27.540 before their very face, that this is a country right now where we have millions of people in pain

00:32:33.460 because they've lost jobs, because they can't afford to pay, uh, the monthly budget, whether

00:32:39.460 it's for energy, for food, for shelter. Uh, and we pushed a lot of people inadvertently and

00:32:45.700 mistakenly into the hands of the socialist, the Marxists on the left and the Democrat party,

00:32:51.300 the Marxist party. I, hell they're socialists now because it's the only avenue they've, they've

00:32:56.500 got because they're watching wall street ship our money every day to China. They're letting

00:33:02.260 them steal $600 billion in intellectual property. Uh, we're watching them build aircraft with our

00:33:08.420 blueprints, uh, fighters, uh, they're building ships with our blueprints. What the hell is the

00:33:15.140 Republican party going to do about it? When are they going to get honest? I don't think it's going to be

00:33:21.860 the Republican party as an institution, sir. I think it's going to be the voters at the grassroots.

00:33:26.980 You are going to see primaries starting to shape up for 2024. And what will happen is the primary

00:33:33.620 voters will speak those, those candidates that want to win the primaries that will, that will take the

00:33:40.020 positions you're talking about on the issues will win the primaries, and then they will have the

00:33:44.740 ability to win the election in 2024. But if you listen to the, if you just go along with the same old

00:33:50.340 stuff, uh, you know, it's, you're not going to win elections. You have to create your own,

00:33:56.420 your own position, your own brand, and you win elections. And, you know, I mean, we,

00:34:02.740 I was talking to you about the congressional races. We, we help candidates who won races in Florida,

00:34:09.620 won races in New York and pick up seats. And, but they had their own messages and they aggressively

00:34:16.500 went after the Democrats. So, so it's, you know, I, I have a great suit. It's at the toughest times,

00:34:25.780 I have a great faith in the wisdom of the American voters that they will, they will do what they need

00:34:33.860 to do at the right time. It's disappointing though, that, um, you know, I, I, it's disappointing that we

00:34:40.980 missed an opportunity to do more good in this, in this election. So, you know, we can move on from

00:34:46.580 there and Republican governors, you know, did by and large, Republican governors did do well, uh,

00:34:52.900 in their reelection campaigns that were up this year, but the big, the big prize for president is

00:34:58.980 coming up in 2024 and the Republican primary voters are already engaged in it. They're already thinking of

00:35:04.820 it. And we've just got to make sure that, uh, we run on the issue with a strong, aggressive message.

00:35:11.220 What happens in 2024? If you and I are wrong about a couple of things, it's unimaginable. I know to

00:35:19.620 both of us, but anyway, I, I just read the polls. I go, the people are doing and good pollster is an

00:35:28.820 oxymoron these days. So, and media, uh, media host is probably suspect to begin with as well,

00:35:38.500 but have we crossed a line here? Because it looks to me like there is a strong effort on the part of

00:35:45.700 the left, uh, of the Marxist left. They have really pushed millions of people into voting for socialist

00:35:54.340 Marxist policies that are emanating from the Biden administration and the cabal that manages this

00:36:01.060 puppet president. Uh, they're woke corporate America has moved left along with the government,

00:36:07.140 uh, and the Democrat party. Uh, and the Republicans are at sea saying, you just wait till next time

00:36:13.860 and send me another a hundred million dollars here, please. We, we're going to need a little

00:36:17.540 money for advertising. I mean, is that where we are in your opinion, as we wrap up here?

00:36:22.580 Uh, yes. And I think we have a, I think we have a problem also on the other fact that they're,

00:36:28.980 that they're winning elections with other people's money as, as the, you know, Margaret Thatcher used

00:36:33.460 to say, where, uh, uh, the socialists Biden made a big play out of, you know, forgiving a lot of, uh,

00:36:40.980 student debt. He bought it. He made a big play. And when you're saying people were losing their jobs,

00:36:48.340 a lot of people are out of the workforce, haven't come back in since COVID because they're

00:36:52.180 still getting government subsidies to get free healthcare. They're getting, uh, uh, food stamps,

00:36:57.220 they're getting payments. Uh, they didn't have to pay their utility bills for a certain amount of

00:37:01.940 time. So, so the bad part going into 2024 is, uh, you're going to see the Democrats come back with

00:37:09.540 ideas like that. The good, and, and by the way, we can talk about the markets and you know more about

00:37:13.780 this than I do, but the markets as we speak are going down now. We could be going back into this kind of,

00:37:19.300 uh, gradual decline of the markets because Biden is still there, but the Republicans better stand

00:37:26.580 on principle and better stop the spending and stop the inflation because if they allow the Biden

00:37:33.060 inflation to continue, they'll go down with it too. And we'll be left for the socialist economy.

00:37:38.660 So I'm going to, I'm going to ask this audience, uh, beginning today to communicate with their

00:37:44.980 congressmen, uh, their senators, that'll be just for fun. Senators never listened to anybody, but,

00:37:51.300 uh, particularly to the house and, and tell them, you know, it's time to remove the leadership.

00:37:58.260 Uh, and if you don't come up with an idea and if we don't see you in the district,

00:38:02.500 and if you're not working for us, we're, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna absolutely

00:38:06.500 obliterate you in the next election. Uh, and we're going to campaign vigorously against you 0.89

00:38:12.100 because this is about what serves the American people. I, as you know, I'm a populist,

00:38:17.220 I'm a conservative populist, but I'm a populist. And I mean, it's time for the middle class of this 0.99

00:38:22.980 country to get serious, uh, working men and women and their families and demand,

00:38:27.940 demand what is their due. And that is respect from their government, uh, instead of an assault

00:38:33.780 from it. We're, that's where we are. And the Republican party is playing the part of accomplice,

00:38:39.380 uh, in that assault because they, they're, they're cowardly, uh, and they're absolutely 0.95

00:38:47.380 bereft of original ideas. And that's why Donald Trump is still the only candidate that stands

00:38:53.300 heads and shoulders above all other aspirants. Uh, you always get the last word on this show,

00:38:58.420 and I'm going to turn to you now, if I may, uh, and John, and for your concluding thoughts,

00:39:03.140 I'm sure they will be going into this election. I was wondering whether it was going to be,

00:39:09.620 and I hesitate to use the word red wave, although I was optimistic that we would gain more seats,

00:39:14.980 but we've got controls of, of the house. But I was worried that it could be a 2012 election like

00:39:21.140 Romney had where over the weekend, the Democrats, you know, uh, 2012, a week out, everybody thought

00:39:28.740 Romney was going to be the next president beat Obama. And over the weekend, Obama and his,

00:39:33.220 his team went to work and they pulled out a majority on Sunday and Monday and Tuesday for,

00:39:38.820 uh, for his reelection. And, uh, you're seeing, you're seeing that again, where the Democrats,

00:39:46.420 you know, double down and we're able to save some senators, save some members of Congress that we

00:39:51.860 should have beaten and Republicans need to learn from it. So we need to do better in the next election.

00:39:58.020 And, uh, that's what we need to do. And we need to run on a clear contrast

00:40:02.020 of issues and ideas and the American people need to hear from us and we got to fight through and

00:40:06.740 make sure that happens. Well, well said as always, John, and we thank you for being with us to make

00:40:13.940 us better understand, uh, uh, this, uh, the past 24 hours in this country, as we all are licking our wounds

00:40:21.140 and, uh, delving deeper into our individual philosophies, as well as, uh, party politics.

00:40:28.020 You always, uh, you always, uh, educate. We appreciate it so much. John McLaughlin. Thanks

00:40:33.860 for being with us here on the great America show. God bless you. Thank you for the opportunity.

00:40:37.860 Keep, keep, keep getting, keep getting the facts out and people will decide.

00:40:41.940 Thank you everybody for being with us here tomorrow. Our guest will be Tom Bevin.

00:40:46.660 Tom is the co-founder and executive editor of real clear politics. Please join us till then.

00:40:53.460 God bless you and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - November 14, 2022

GOP DIVIDED： JOHN MCLAUGHLIN SAYS PRES. TRUMP IS VERY POPULAR BUT RINOS DON’T WANT HIM DESPITE THE SUCCESS OF HIS PRESIDENCY & POLICIES

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