The Great America Show - GOP SHUTTING DOWN MARXIST DEMOCRATS

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00:01:14.920 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs, and thanks for

00:01:22.380 being with us. More whistleblowers coming forward to assert that the FBI is targeting agents whose

00:01:28.380 political beliefs don't align with the FBI leadership. The Washington Times reports the

00:01:34.240 agency leaders are going after, in particular, former Marines and other veterans because they

00:01:40.000 fit the profile of supporters of President Donald Trump. The two highly placed agents, Jeffrey Valtry

00:01:46.660 and Dana Perkins, are accused of stripping agents of their security clearances. The two retaliated against

00:01:53.060 veterans by declaring they were, quote, disloyal to the United States. The whistleblowers giving their

00:01:59.020 evidence to the House Judiciary Committee and their revelation just a day after House Speaker

00:02:04.580 Michael Johnson said the investigating committees don't at this moment have sufficient evidence to

00:02:10.760 impeach President Biden, which obviously is a setback to the investigating committees, who, in my view,

00:02:16.880 have more than enough evidence to bring charges of corruption and bribery against President Biden.

00:02:22.980 Our guest today is Congressman Eli Crane, former Navy SEAL, Great American, and he says the time has come

00:02:29.000 to hold everyone in Congress accountable, including Republicans. Congressman, great to have you back

00:02:35.280 with us. Always good to talk with you. Let's begin with your impressions of your new speaker, Mike Johnson.

00:02:40.860 How's he doing in these early days? Well, I think he's doing pretty good, Lou, and thanks for having me

00:02:47.600 on your show. I think he's doing pretty good considering what he's up against. I mean, you know, he is, he did come

00:02:55.100 into a job that I don't think he really wanted with a financial clock that was ticking, and he's got to

00:03:01.940 work with a bunch of different factions in the Republican Party, just as the speaker did before him.

00:03:07.240 I think the difference that you're going to see, I think you're going to see a speaker that's

00:03:11.440 less transactional and more conservative. So what my hope is, and I'm trying to be realistic about this,

00:03:19.340 I do think you're going to see a couple degrees shift in how this conference proceeds going forward,

00:03:25.640 and I think it's going to be good for the conference, and I do think it's going to be

00:03:29.380 good for the American people. You know, I have to say, the beginning that you guys have set here

00:03:36.340 under his speakership, I mean, you're passing bills, you're working late. It's really, I think,

00:03:42.960 remarkable. And I understand there's just a very good chance that you'll have all of the

00:03:48.580 appropriations bills, separate bills, in by the time we get to November 17th.

00:03:57.280 Yeah, you know, and I often, I talk to some of my colleagues that have more experience have been

00:04:03.340 up here for a lot longer than I have, and they'll tell me, Lou, that they've never seen anything like

00:04:08.500 this happen up here before, where we're actually doing the appropriations bills. They tell me that

00:04:14.980 oftentimes, well, almost all the time, the way it works up here in Washington is we govern by CR,

00:04:22.100 continuing resolution, or omnibus, which just basically funds the government with an up or down

00:04:27.120 vote. And we've passed many of the appropriations bills. We're still working through the rest of them.

00:04:33.000 But when I jump up to the 30,000-foot view, Lou, what this is really about to me is this is about

00:04:42.340 the only way this town is going to change is through force. I think Republicans, we've done a

00:04:49.020 really poor job at continuing to kick the can down the road and try, you know, act like we're going to

00:04:54.140 fight, oh, you know, once we get the Senate or once we get the presidency back, you know, that,

00:04:59.700 in my opinion, sir, those days have got to be over. The American people can't afford it anymore.

00:05:04.760 They can't afford the weakness of the Republican Party, you know, not standing up today and fighting

00:05:10.700 for them. And, you know, that's what the speaker fight was about back in January. That's what the

00:05:15.140 motion to vacate was about a couple of weeks ago. And, you know, I'm just trying to represent my voters

00:05:20.940 who I feel the same way. I think many of the people that listen to your show feel that you guys can't

00:05:26.920 quit kicking, kicking this can down the road. You have to, you have to fight for us. You have to

00:05:31.580 stand up and fight for us today. And, you know, it's like, Lou, when you get in a fight, there's

00:05:36.920 never a guarantee. There's never a guarantee that things are going to go the way you want them to

00:05:41.180 go. But when you look at the situation that we're in with $33 trillion in debt, a $2 trillion annual

00:05:47.660 deficit, a wide open Southern border, I mean, Lou, I think we've had 13,000 illegals come through,

00:05:55.980 you know, you know, Arizona in the last couple of days. And there's, you know, over 250 people on

00:06:02.680 the terrorist watch list in the last two years. If you go back and look at the Trump years, sir,

00:06:07.060 that those numbers were always single digits. I went to a briefing, a classified briefing last week.

00:06:13.960 And the stuff that I was reading about in that skiff under the Capitol would really concern a lot of

00:06:20.440 Americans about just who's in this country and, you know, and what, what their intentions might be.

00:06:28.660 And so it's like, we're playing with fire and this idea that we can keep doing things the way we've been

00:06:33.920 doing them. Sometimes I just, you know, I can't even believe some of my colleagues that just think

00:06:40.140 it's business is normal up here. It's not, and it can't be. So many Americans, I think, also believe

00:06:45.400 it's business as usual, despite dealing with runaway inflation, despite all of the, the issues

00:06:53.420 with the economy, despite 10 million illegal immigrants being brought into this country by

00:06:59.660 this administration, just since they took office, not even three years ago, we're talking over 10

00:07:05.360 million people. And that is, as you well know, that's an extraordinary burden, not only on a

00:07:12.920 border state, but as the cliche goes, every state now is a border state because Joe Biden is distributing

00:07:19.180 them in charter aircraft and charter buses all over the country in the dead of night. We don't even know

00:07:24.040 where they are or who they are or what they're doing for that matter.

00:07:27.120 No, you're absolutely correct, Lou. And I get asked a lot of times by reporters if, you know,

00:07:33.500 I think, you know, it's going to lead to, you know, any disasters here in the U S like maybe another

00:07:39.200 nine 11 and I hate to report, but yes, it will. It's not a matter of if it's only a matter of when

00:07:45.620 and that's how foolish we've been. You know, we can hope and pray for the best, but if you play stupid 1.00

00:07:52.040 games for a long enough period of time, you're going to win stupid prizes. And that's, that's what we see 1.00

00:07:56.940 going on with this administration. I mean, just look at Israel, look at what just happened in

00:08:02.240 Israel that we, there are plenty of evil people around the world that want to do harm to people

00:08:08.060 that, you know, just want to live their lives and be free. And if you look at the border of Israel,

00:08:13.060 I think it's like 25 miles long. Our border is 2000 miles long. And you know, it's, it's pretty

00:08:20.940 and Lou, when I, when I talk about this type of stuff, that doesn't even consider the, the, you know,

00:08:26.720 the 90,000 people that are dying annually of fentanyl, right. It's just, it's, it's almost

00:08:32.520 like, you know, we, we live in a clown world where nothing makes sense. And there's this little

00:08:37.140 bubble around this town and the people in it. Um, and you know, it's, it's almost like, uh,

00:08:43.500 there's such a detachment from reality and, and from the lives that people have to lead lead because

00:08:49.740 of the foolish mistakes and policy made in this town, um, that sometimes it's, you feel like

00:08:55.500 you're living in la la land when you're up here. It must be extraordinary. Just, just going, 0.96

00:09:00.960 walking through the swamp is enough for me, uh, to walk through and see what is happening sometimes

00:09:06.200 in Congress and the Senate, uh, and to, to report on it, uh, every day as we do here, I have to tell

00:09:13.000 you, I, it is, it is reached a level that I could never have imagined possible. Uh, there is no

00:09:19.880 pretense now on, on the part of the Marxist Dems. They mean to take over the country. They've taken

00:09:24.880 over the federal government, every agency, uh, and we're going to talk more about that. And I'd like

00:09:29.780 to get your thoughts about how do we get the discussion to real terms? How do we talk about

00:09:36.080 basic reality here to the American people? Because right now, uh, not many people outside the

00:09:42.980 Republican party are doing that. And I am talking about president Biden and the Marxist Dems. We'll

00:09:48.580 be right back with Congressman Eli Crane. Stay with us. We're back with Congressman Eli Crane and

00:09:59.880 Congressman, you were talking about the fight. And for the first time, I get the sense that you have

00:10:06.020 a speaker that who is a fighter, uh, on a, in a different level. I don't know if he's ever been

00:10:12.280 punched in the nose, but I do know that he seems to have the right instincts, but I do know the rest

00:10:17.240 of us have been punched in the, in the nose. So we're, we know what we're into. And the, and the fact

00:10:23.360 is, uh, we have got a bunch of people talking, uh, stuff, uh, that I don't think they mean. And they're

00:10:30.300 talking stuff that, uh, they don't comprehend it. I'm talking about Joe Biden. He talks about taking the

00:10:35.560 president out and whipping his butt in the back alley or behind the gym or whatever. Uh, I don't 0.99

00:10:42.420 think the man ever got hit in the nose or he wouldn't talk like that. Uh, you, you've got a

00:10:46.760 whole administration of people, Alejandro Mayorkas, he doesn't, uh, secure the border, but he'll lie

00:10:53.720 straight to your face. Uh, I don't know what we've got here, but we've got to fix it. So there are

00:10:59.220 consequences when, when men and women lie to each other, like the Marxist Dems are lying to the

00:11:05.060 American people and they do it every day. Yeah, no, you're right. We do have to hold people 1.00

00:11:10.080 accountable. And you were talking about realism before the break. And, you know, this is one of

00:11:15.360 the things that, um, is hard to learn when you come up here, but the situation, um, is so bad up

00:11:21.600 here that, you know, sometimes the best you can get is a, you know, turning the ship a couple degrees

00:11:25.960 at a time. Um, but that's one thing that I hope the American people, uh, notice, um, in this

00:11:32.300 Congress, um, you know, this is the first time a speaker's ever been, uh, fired and we brought in

00:11:38.540 a new one. And the reason we did was because Kevin McCarthy made a deal with, uh, members, um, of the

00:11:44.720 House Freedom Caucus and other members that he didn't, he didn't follow through with. And so, um,

00:11:50.120 and it wasn't just a deal so that one of us could get a bigger office or that one of us could be on a

00:11:55.000 committee. It was a deal that would have allowed us to do our appropriations bills at a, at a level that

00:12:01.000 would have saved the American people money. That's what this is. That's what that was about.

00:12:05.060 So it wasn't a, it wasn't a selfish, you know, uh, ask that we had Lou. Uh, and, and, and I know

00:12:11.700 the American people are tired of watching politicians who, um, you know, tell the people one thing and

00:12:17.120 then go behind closed doors and do the exact opposite. And then they get a promotion for it.

00:12:21.300 And that's usually how this town works. Um, well, this is one of those situations where that's not how

00:12:26.320 it worked. And I hope that the precedent has been set, you know, for future leaders that, um, you

00:12:32.200 know, we'll take a look at what happened this year. And I hope it puts a little, you know, a little bit

00:12:37.020 of the fear of God in them that, Hey, um, there might be a new, there might be a new party in town,

00:12:42.120 some new people in town that actually mean what they say. And they're actually, they're not just

00:12:47.600 talking about fighting. They're willing to actually fight and put their political careers on the line.

00:12:51.700 And they're willing to take the hard vote and be called crazy by everybody in, you know, in the

00:12:56.620 media all around the country so that we can actually get some different leadership. That's

00:13:01.620 serious about turning this back around. I see the, the effects of what you all did, uh, at the

00:13:08.340 beginning of the 118th Congress, uh, in a 15 vote, uh, negotiation to put McCarthy eventually in

00:13:14.820 as a speakership, but the, how you democratize Congress, uh, decentralized power, uh, was 0.70

00:13:21.520 important. And I think this step that you've taken, uh, with the motion to vacate, uh, and bring in

00:13:27.500 Mike Johnson, let's go to that issue. And, and that means the motion to vacate, are you going to get

00:13:33.680 rid of it? Uh, are you going to keep it? What's, what will be the, the fate of the motion to vacate?

00:13:39.800 Well, I, I can't tell you what the fate is going to be, Lou. I can tell you where I stand on it. I

00:13:44.660 don't think that we should get rid of it. It's a precedent that stood for, um, a very long time

00:13:50.760 in, in, in Congress, I think well over a hundred years. And I think Nancy Pelosi was the one that,

00:13:55.920 you know, got rid of it because she didn't want, she didn't want to have a check on her authority. 1.00

00:14:00.320 And I do think it's important to have in case a, you know, a speaker or a leader, um, you know,

00:14:07.340 goes off the rails or in, in the case that we saw this year was making deals with, you know,

00:14:12.420 multiple people and then not honoring those deals. Um, so I, I, I want to see it stay around

00:14:17.720 and Lou, I'd like to say something real quick. Um, the deal that I'm talking about, isn't the only

00:14:22.840 deal that was made that wasn't followed through with. If you notice, uh, Nancy Mace was one of the

00:14:27.240 people, one of the eight people that, um, you know, voted to, uh, vacate the chair. She had a

00:14:33.540 completely separate deal with, uh, Speaker McCarthy that wasn't honored. And, you know, those are just

00:14:38.940 two examples of deals that were made that weren't honored, um, that would have been good for the

00:14:43.720 American people. And so, um, I don't want to see it go away because even though I really like so far 1.00

00:14:49.920 what I see of Speaker Johnson, uh, this isn't a, this isn't a popularity contest. This is about

00:14:55.140 principles. This is about leadership and this is about turning the country around. And if,

00:14:59.500 if we need to use it again and God forbid, I hope we don't, but if we need to use it again,

00:15:04.080 I hope it's, I hope it continues to be a tool that, uh, the representatives here in Congress,

00:15:09.000 uh, can use. I have to say, I, I concur with you entirely on the motion to vacate. Uh, it is,

00:15:15.520 uh, as you say, it's a sharp edge tool, uh, but, uh, Lord knows, uh, Congress needs some sharp edges, 0.86

00:15:23.080 uh, and some sharp elbows around there to, to drive the agenda. Uh, when we come back,

00:15:28.440 I'd like to talk to you about, uh, something that, uh, judiciary chairman and weaponization

00:15:33.540 chairman, Jim Jordan brought up, and that was the DHS, uh, consortium, uh, with, uh, with the

00:15:40.080 outfit, uh, the election integrity, uh, partnership, uh, and censuring, uh, American

00:15:46.920 citizens, particularly Republicans and conservatives. We're talking with Congressman Eli Crane. We'll

00:15:53.640 be right back with more of the great America show. Please stay with us.

00:15:56.980 We're back with Congressman Eli Crane. I mean, I think represents, uh, not only a great constituency,

00:16:09.220 but also the standards and the values of this country. And we need more representation like

00:16:16.020 that. And, uh, in our Congress and certainly in our Senate, uh, Congressman, I'd like to turn

00:16:21.220 to the, the election integrity, uh, partnership that, uh, Congressman Jim Jordan, the chairman

00:16:27.940 of the judiciary and the weaponization committee brought up, uh, going after the censorship industrial

00:16:33.380 complex, as he put it, uh, to see the government actually involved in shutting down American voices,

00:16:40.500 uh, particularly conservatives, uh, whether it's a 2020 or as recently as the, is the last election.

00:16:47.220 This is outrageous. What this administration has pulled, uh, and what the one, uh, what the previous

00:16:53.620 election revealed as well, your thoughts on what we have to do to straighten up this government and, uh,

00:17:01.540 uh, get rid of the idea that you're going to censor one new group of people in this country or any other.

00:17:07.860 Well, I think, I'm glad you brought it up, Lou. I think the first thing that we have to do is we

00:17:11.860 have to grow a backbone as a party, um, and quit thinking that this, like I said, business as usual.

00:17:18.500 Um, you know, most totalitarians understand that the first thing that they must do, um,

00:17:24.740 to control a populace is to control the media and then they must disarm the populace. Those are

00:17:30.180 plays one and two, um, uh, basically every dictator. Um, and so when you talk about this censorship,

00:17:36.900 you know, that we see going on, uh, with election integrity, it's not the first time and it won't

00:17:41.860 be the last time we, we saw the same type of thing going on during COVID 19. Um, and I think the

00:17:48.180 American people are becoming more and more aware of just how flagrant, um, our, our government has

00:17:54.820 become in their efforts to censor, censure the populace and to try and control what they can and

00:18:00.900 can't say, what they label as misinformation, conspiracy theory, et cetera. And, uh, that

00:18:07.300 first amendment is, is number one for a reason. It is so important. And, you know, um, you know,

00:18:13.540 there was a time in this country where we, we fought, you know, we would fight for people's right

00:18:19.220 to say even the dumbest, most heinous, you know, disgusting thing out there because we, because we

00:18:25.860 understood how important it was to protect that first amendment, right. And now as we've gone close, 0.96

00:18:32.180 we've gotten closer and closer to, you know, Marxist, communistic, totalitarian, top-down control,

00:18:39.620 you see, it's becoming more and more acceptable because it furthers that agenda. And it's very scary,

00:18:47.060 Lou. It's one of the reasons that I, you know, I, um, left the business world and got into politics

00:18:52.100 myself because, um, I realized that my little girls and the next generation and the next generation

00:18:59.540 aren't going to have the same life experience that you and I did, where we grew up in a place

00:19:04.900 where we could say something, you know, we could say something that was controversial. We could say

00:19:10.020 something that was inflammatory. We could even say something that was downright disgusting.

00:19:14.580 And we, we still had the right to say it. Now I'm not saying you should, but I'm saying that,

00:19:19.620 you know, that's, that's what, you know, one of the greatest things about this country.

00:19:24.420 And as most Americans that I'm sure watch this show understand is that that is going away and

00:19:30.580 it's death by a thousand cuts. And if we don't grow a backbone in this party, in this party,

00:19:36.900 not talking about the Democrats right now, if we don't grow a backbone in this party and stand up to

00:19:41.700 it, um, the American people don't have a chance. Let me turn to Rashida Tlaib and freedom of speech.

00:19:49.460 And which I find her absolutely repugnant. I enter anti-Semitism and her pro-Palestinian

00:19:57.860 Hamas, uh, rhetoric. Uh, but I would, I think she should be censored by the U S Congress. 1.00

00:20:04.820 What is the mood of Congress?

00:20:06.260 Well, I agree with you, Lou. I, I find her comments, uh, pretty disgusting and, uh,

00:20:12.660 very alarming as well. I think, uh, the American people, most of us at least can agree that,

00:20:19.620 you know, that the, uh, the attacks on, uh, the state of Israel and the Jewish people within, 0.53

00:20:26.180 uh, several weeks ago was completely uncalled for and quite, quite frankly, sadistic and disgusting.

00:20:33.300 And to see individuals, uh, here in Congress defending, um, you know, to defending that,

00:20:40.500 those atrocities, um, you know, the, the people that, the people that carried it out, um, you know,

00:20:46.820 it's, it's beyond, it's beyond words, you know, it's tough to find words to describe, um, you know,

00:20:54.100 what, what we're seeing. But what I can tell you is that right now we just had a motion to table,

00:21:00.100 um, that, that motion, uh, the Democrats tried to table it and we voted it down. So I think we're

00:21:06.980 going to vote on it tonight. I don't know how it's going to come out. I know that there are

00:21:11.300 some Republicans that hate seeing the back and forth. Hey, we'll censure this person. You guys

00:21:17.220 censure this person going back and forth. But at the same time, you know, when you look at that action

00:21:23.380 alone, I think, uh, you know, I think it's definitely worthy of the censure and I think

00:21:29.060 it's unbecoming of a representative of Congress. Amen. And when we're looking at the level of

00:21:35.620 demonstrations and protests, the outright evil on our college campuses, our university campuses,

00:21:41.620 those young people need to know that their government, uh, is a leader, uh, on, and what will

00:21:48.660 be tolerated in this country. Uh, the, the massacre of October 7th, uh, there's no, no greater moral

00:21:56.900 clarity, uh, in recent years than that event. And there to be any discussion about being pro Hamas

00:22:03.540 versus pro Israel, uh, pro, uh, Israeli, uh, it's, it's just mindless to me that we were putting up with 0.93

00:22:12.420 this nonsense on our campuses, because this is ignorance. Congressman, I just want to say how 0.77

00:22:17.380 much we enjoy having you with us. Uh, we thank you so much. And you're setting a standard that, uh,

00:22:22.420 the, the country needs in the, in that U S Congress. And, uh, as always, we'd like to give our guests

00:22:28.180 the last word. And if you will, your, your concluding thoughts here. Well, thank you again,

00:22:33.540 Lou, for having me on. Um, you know, my concluding thoughts are this, I appreciate everybody that stood

00:22:40.260 with us in that this recent fight where we ousted the speaker and brought in a new one. Uh, I can't

00:22:47.780 tell you Lou, there were many people during the process that I could tell we're getting battle

00:22:53.060 fatigue. Uh, I think they were watching a little too much Fox news, to be honest with you. Um, but

00:22:58.660 that being said, guys, this country's in trouble. We have to change the direction, the trajectory of

00:23:04.980 it. Please hang in there with those of us that are trying to do it. This took decades to, you know,

00:23:10.740 to manufacture, it's going to take time to undo it. So please stick with us, be patient.

00:23:15.940 We're fighting. We're working up here, but please keep holding us accountable. Myself included.

00:23:22.100 Get on the phone, call your representatives, email them. I, I talk to my staff all the time,

00:23:26.980 trying to figure out, you know, often on some of these, uh, complicated bills, where you guys stand,

00:23:32.660 because that's why I'm up here to represent y'all. Um, so thank you, Lou, for everything that you do.

00:23:37.780 I know that you could have ridden off into the sunset and retired, um, you know, long ago,

00:23:43.220 but I appreciate you staying in the fight and, uh, you know, mentoring and educating, uh, the next

00:23:48.740 generation coming up, trying to make a difference. Very kind of you. And thank you. We thank you for

00:23:53.940 your service for this country throughout your entire life. Congressman, thanks so much. We appreciate

00:24:00.020 it so much. God bless you. Thank you, Lou. God bless you too, brother. Congressman Eli Crane.

00:24:05.460 Thank you. And thank you everybody for being with us here tomorrow. Our guest is Roger Stone,

00:24:10.020 bestselling author, political strategist, podcaster, radio talk show host on 77 WABC news,

00:24:16.900 a great colleague of mine there and advisor to president Trump. Please join us each and every day

00:24:23.220 here on the great America show. Thanks. God bless you. And God bless America.

00:24:30.020 God bless you.

The Great America Show - November 12, 2023

GOP SHUTTING DOWN MARXIST DEMOCRATS

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