The Great America Show - GORDON CHANG & TONY SHAFFER SAY THE CHINA BALLOON WAS DESIGNED TO INTIMIDATE JOE BIDEN AND U.S. MILITARY

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show, and I want to begin by telling

00:00:05.060 you there's a reason we named this show The Great America Show. We did so because we didn't want

00:00:11.640 any confusion, any question about where we're coming from. No ambiguity, no double talk.

00:00:18.980 Our show title is the statement of our values, truth, justice, and the American way. It's our

00:00:25.720 editorial point of view, and we're not only America first. We're all about America come hell

00:00:32.220 or high water. And the heck of it is, these are troubling times, and you and I, we're getting

00:00:38.100 tested, aren't we? All of us who care about this great country are being tested and frustrated,

00:00:43.840 deeply frustrated, by this government, by the Biden regime, the Marxist Dems, who so very obviously

00:00:51.300 mean to fundamentally transform America, as Barack Obama first put it. By destroying the America that

00:00:59.100 our founders created, the country has already become unrecognizable to most of us. How about you

00:01:05.160 and your family? How in the world do we deal with this assault on the Constitution from within?

00:01:11.380 That's the main threat and the decadence and deviancy that we are tolerating as a society.

00:01:18.240 I'm saying this directly. Decadence and deviancy. And why are we tolerating this descent into less

00:01:27.440 than we should be? Are we really going to tolerate barbarism and perversion of our values and our way

00:01:34.400 of life? Why do we put up with talk of sex and gender with second and third graders in our public

00:01:40.380 schools? An FBI that targets parents at school board meetings. How do you explain a corrupt FBI and

00:01:48.220 Department of Justice to your kids, or in my case, the grandkids? How do you explain an obviously

00:01:54.700 impaired and unwell president who is so compromised by Chinese money that he watches a Chinese communist 0.98

00:02:02.120 surveillance balloon float across the entire country and then his White House and Pentagon try 0.85

00:02:08.700 to cover it all up, lying through their teeth? How do you explain that isn't really the way our great

00:02:15.080 republic is supposed to be? That those fools are unlike any who've ever inhabited our nation's 0.98

00:02:21.660 capital? There's much to analyze, to digest in this latest debacle of the Biden regime. A president who 0.99

00:02:29.140 I believe would never have said a word about that Chinese surveillance balloon if it hadn't been seen

00:02:34.660 by airline pilots and folks looking up just snapping pictures of the balloon high above their heads with

00:02:41.260 their iPhones. And in my opinion, the Biden regime in both the White House and the Pentagon were more

00:02:47.680 focused on damage control and disinformation campaigns than they were on what to do with that balloon and

00:02:54.580 how to do it. And when. Biden sees these moments as he would any of his many scandals. An intrusion.

00:03:02.280 His decisions don't matter, he thinks, so long as he controls the narrative and can cover not only his conduct

00:03:10.400 but his lies. Meanwhile, Americans are watching in real time as the U.S. military was paralyzed by the China 0.66

00:03:18.300 balloon. A president flummoxed in the moment as usual, pretending to be making heroic and outsized dramatic

00:03:25.500 decisions as if he were Washington crossing the Delaware. Nope, he's just China Joe. Compromised, 0.99

00:03:33.360 impaired and lost with America's fate in his shaking hands. And of course, the Marxist Dems come out to

00:03:40.840 publicly denounce the Chinese communists and their imperial aggression against America. No, I'm just 0.90

00:03:47.100 kidding about that. Actually, they didn't do that. They sent out good old Chuck Schumer to defend China

00:03:52.980 Joe Biden against the criticisms of a number of Republican congressmen and senators. Here is Chuck Schumer.

00:04:00.840 China, China sent that surveillance balloon over. The Biden administration was calm, calculated and effective.

00:04:11.680 According to they listened to the military experts, they listened to the intelligence experts and they did the right

00:04:17.320 thing. But Republicans, even before they saw and knew what was happening, started, some of them, not all,

00:04:24.700 lambasting the president. Those criticisms were at best premature and in all probability, highly political.

00:04:33.240 And joining us now to take up the latest on the balloon, the recovery, the Biden regime and the Chinese

00:04:39.120 communist strategy against the United States, two outstanding national security analysts joining us here

00:04:45.380 today. First, Gordon Chang, geopolitical analyst, China expert, attorney, author and radio host.

00:04:52.120 Welcome, Gordon. And retired Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer, Army Intelligence Officer, director now of the

00:04:58.820 London Center for Policy Research and host of his radio show, The Hard Truth. Tony, great to have you back

00:05:05.600 with us. Both of you, great Americans and welcome. Let me start with you, Gordon. What is China thinking?

00:05:12.020 Does President Xi want to go to war with the United States? That's what it certainly looks like,

00:05:19.040 Lou. There are a number of alternative explanations for what drove the Chinese to this incredibly brazen 1.00

00:05:26.140 act. One of them is that Xi Jinping wants to intimidate the United States, wants to intimidate Biden,

00:05:32.480 and actually wants to say to the world, look, the U.S. is now incapable. It is finished as a great power,

00:05:40.180 and therefore you should ditch America and you should obey China. The other explanation is that 0.71

00:05:46.860 the Chinese military now is so politically powerful that it can do what it wants. And it either just decided

00:05:53.220 to send this balloon on this path or it told Xi Jinping, this is what we're doing and you're going to like it.

00:05:59.260 Now, I don't know which one of those is more likely, though I tend to sort of think that it's the first.

00:06:05.960 But right now, whatever explanation, it's not good, Lou, because it does look like China is now preparing

00:06:12.620 in the final stages to go to battle against somebody, and that'll probably include the U.S.

00:06:18.720 Tony, your thoughts? Does this look like a China that now wants war with us?

00:06:25.220 Well, absolutely. I agree with Gordon's assessment completely. And let me add a couple of points.

00:06:30.320 The purpose of the balloon, ostensibly, according to the Pentagon, was it was a collection platform.

00:06:35.560 This is a purpose-built dirigible, and they don't need the intel from it. So this, to Gordon's point,

00:06:42.700 was a provocation. It was meant to show the complete fecklessness of the Biden administration.

00:06:47.560 Further, a little couple of points that have not been talked about. We could have shot that balloon

00:06:53.860 down safely over anywhere we wanted. We have something called lasers, Lou. You've probably

00:06:59.620 read about them, Star Trek and everything else. So we actually got a class now that is designed to

00:07:03.880 take down ICBMs. We could have used one of these airborne lasers with precision, taken the balloon down

00:07:10.420 at a gradual rate and landed it softly, as softly as you can when you're shooting a balloon out,

00:07:16.280 without the drama. So what happened here is a political charade. So what Gordon said is

00:07:22.320 absolutely correct. But the Biden administration, seeing they were about to lose face with the

00:07:26.000 American people, did this dramatic shoot down over the coast near where I live now to actually create 1.00

00:07:32.480 this perception for the American people only, not for the Chinese, because they know that this was a

00:07:37.080 complete wreck of national security. That was all done simply for the purposes of tonight's

00:07:43.780 State of the Union address, to show that Biden is indeed still in charge, still knows what he's

00:07:48.660 doing, but it's complete fraud. We could have easily, at the time of our choosing, and I know for

00:07:53.940 a fact, Lou, that recommendations were made to do this, just saying, to bring this thing down safely

00:07:59.000 so we could look at it, examine it. The whole drama, the whole shooting it down, in my judgment,

00:08:03.720 was just an attempt to cover up the evidence of Joe Biden's incompetence in trying to come out with

00:08:09.800 a domestic win. So that's really what's going on here. And yes, it does link back to Tony Blinken

00:08:15.520 behind the scenes, who was the bag man for the Biden, Penn Biden Center. He was the guy managing

00:08:21.460 the 24 million that came over from the Chinese to fund that center. And he's been behind the scenes,

00:08:26.640 that is Blinken, and Jake Sullivan being apologists for the Chinese, trying somehow believing that they

00:08:32.240 appease the Chinese enough, they're going to back down. And frankly, you and I both know, 1.00

00:08:36.800 you dare not show weakness at a time when someone is acting as an aggressor, and I think that's

00:08:41.980 clearly what's going on here.

00:08:43.900 I don't think these guys have much choice about how they act, frankly, Tony. I think they're

00:08:49.180 Marxist dims. They're committed to the, quote-unquote, fundamental transformation of America,

00:08:54.020 as Barack Obama famously put it. And Obama, if no one else, believes that this is the third

00:09:02.120 term of his administration, and that seems to be exactly the path they're on.

00:09:07.020 I want to turn back again, Gordon, to this issue of war, because I think that there's a lot of

00:09:14.060 sugarcoating going on right now, and amongst them, as Tony alluded to, the shoot-down of the package.

00:09:21.560 This thing is a huge package, payload under that balloon, 200 feet long, and the package,

00:09:32.620 the size of a jetliner, as some have put it. This is remarkable, because there was another way.

00:09:39.380 I'd love the idea of the lasers, but 20-millimeter cannon would have been a hell of a lot smarter

00:09:44.040 than firing a sidewinder missile at a balloon with equipment that we wanted to

00:09:51.340 retrieve for intelligence purposes, and they fire a sidewinder at it from an F-22 at 70,000 feet.

00:10:01.340 What did they think they were doing? And there is a debris area of seven miles, and we still don't

00:10:08.520 have, thanks to the intelligence of the U.S. military, we don't have salvage ships on station

00:10:15.840 that should have been there three, four days ago. What does this tell you, Gordon?

00:10:21.260 Well, I think that it tells us that the Pentagon and the Biden administration are incapable,

00:10:26.460 and that that was Xi Jinping's intent. He's probably got his propaganda win.

00:10:31.480 You know, we know that this balloon approached the Aleutians, where it first entered territorial U.S.

00:10:37.100 airspace. It then went across the Alaskan landmass, down through western Canada, and that's, you know,

00:10:44.660 more than a thousand miles of uninhabited territory. So clearly, it could have been done at that time.

00:10:52.080 And we have heard from General Van Herc, the NORAD commander, that his rules of engagement did not

00:10:59.720 permit him to shoot that down. So we have a number of questions about the command's authority,

00:11:06.100 and we have enough questions about the rules of engagement, because clearly, you know, the

00:11:11.860 president should have been notified immediately when this balloon was approaching the United States,

00:11:17.560 not at the time it actually entered the lower 48 states, at least that's according to the White House.

00:11:24.360 So there are issues here about the Pentagon, issues about Biden, and we look so bad. The Chinese, 1.00

00:11:31.940 the Russians, the Iranians, the North Koreans can all see this, and that makes this the most dangerous 0.99

00:11:36.680 moment in history. It certainly makes it the most deceitful on the part of any administration.

00:11:43.540 I can't think of another effort to cover up a military and intelligence failure like this.

00:11:53.220 I don't know if, I can't think of one as large as this on the part of the U.S. government, at least,

00:11:59.660 assuming that we do know of all that do exist. This is outrageous. We are hearing people say for the

00:12:07.280 propaganda machine of the Biden regime, and including the Pentagon, of course, as well as the White House,

00:12:14.400 that no, you know, three balloons flew over the United States when Trump was president.

00:12:18.520 Well, it turns out that's not true at all. And it's not true that the ODNI, the Director of

00:12:26.600 National Intelligence, the President of the United States, the head of the National Security Council,

00:12:33.980 National Security Advisor, they didn't know anything about it because guess what? Now what we find out

00:12:39.880 behind that lie, which was designed to cover up for the malfeasance as well as utter neglect on the

00:12:46.980 part of this administration. It turns out they have to reveal that that didn't happen. In point

00:12:53.600 of fact, it was only four years after the fact that NORAD discovered because of this intrusion

00:13:01.060 that those others had occurred. What an immense intelligence failure and defense failure, Tony.

00:13:09.060 Yeah. So let's circle the square on that, Luke, because you brought up kind of this being the third

00:13:12.840 term of Obama. And so that's exactly why you're seeing it play out like this. Jake Sullivan is a de

00:13:18.780 facto employee of the former president, as is Valerie Jarrett. They're the ones behind the scenes

00:13:25.100 really running things. And one of the things noticeable, there's always a delay, a flash,

00:13:31.020 you know, between the flash and bang, there's a delay in the response. President Biden was briefed

00:13:35.640 on this a week ago Saturday. He was well aware that this thing was in territorial space over Alaska.

00:13:41.620 And the fact is they did not want this. They were very happy, that being the current administration

00:13:48.480 kind of directed by Barack Obama, to kind of let it go. Don't bring it up. Maybe nobody will notice.

00:13:53.720 Obviously, people notice when you see this balloon over the continental United States. Hard to miss that.

00:13:58.860 But that's what's going on here. And so you see this very, to me, obvious narrative of the fact that

00:14:06.520 they did not know what they were doing or did not know how to react properly to show proper response

00:14:12.220 and strength. And therefore, what you've seen now is after the fact, all of this, this muddying the

00:14:17.980 water, Jake Sullivan bringing that up was patently false. Jake flat out lied. Fortunately, the NORAD

00:14:23.740 commander kind of called him on it during a during a meeting. So it was hard for them to pull it back.

00:14:28.300 But there was no evidence. And again, I was advising folks, as you know, Lou, during that period

00:14:33.040 in the Trump administration, I was working with Mike Pompeo, I was working with senior Pentagon

00:14:37.380 leaders. I would have probably been told something wacky like this was going on because I've gotten

00:14:42.920 called in every other time the Chinese have done something like this in the past. So I know for a 1.00

00:14:47.740 fact, based on my contacts with those senior officials you just mentioned, there was nothing going

00:14:52.300 on. So this is simply the Obama Biden administration. And I'll say it that way.

00:14:57.580 China trying to explain away or muddy the waters of their own culpability and dare I say treasonous 0.99

00:15:05.660 activities to allow for China to run the table on this and create, as Gordon said, one of the most 0.95

00:15:10.780 dangerous, if not the most dangerous time in history based on what we know the Chinese want to do 1.00

00:15:15.740 regarding military and global economic designs based on the fact that we aren't responding properly

00:15:23.840 to push it back. This is not only not proper, this is ruinously inept on the part of the United 0.81

00:15:33.900 States military, the intelligence community, as well as the Biden regime itself. It's that

00:15:43.160 straightforward. And holy hell ought to be the result of this. And the Republicans have taken early

00:15:49.060 steps to call for investigations. They now have to move forward. This is unacceptable. I would I would

00:15:56.020 wager anyone who wants to pay for the poll. Most Americans right now are simply outraged at the

00:16:02.260 stupidity of this administration. It's absolutely cowering deceit about what happened and their let's call it 1.00

00:16:11.060 a lack of a lack of candor, whether you're in the National Security Council or the Pentagon or in the in the military,

00:16:19.380 trying to explain why you've fired a Sidewinder missile at a payload that you wanted, presumably to save for

00:16:26.100 intelligence purposes. Gordon, what must the Chinese be thinking? Because this isn't just your average,

00:16:33.220 average. As I say, recently, a Charlie Foxtrot. This is a complete and utter mess on the part of this

00:16:45.460 administration. And you've got Chuck Schumer out trying to trying to attack the Republicans rather than

00:16:55.220 the Chinese who sent over the balloon. They're preposterous idiots right now. They are scurrying like 1.00

00:17:01.220 chickens with their heads cut off in embarrassment and frustration and in the sure knowledge that they have been

00:17:09.140 revealed for what they are. What do you think the Chinese think of that? I think the Chinese look at what

00:17:14.660 President Biden said on Monday in response to a reporter. Biden said that the balloon incident would not weaken

00:17:22.340 U.S.-China relations. And I believe that the Chinese are looking at this and saying, well, you know, we just

00:17:30.340 committed an act of war. We violated the U.S. airspace, flew around their most sensitive sites, and Biden says

00:17:38.580 there's no cost. You know, I'm thinking there must be saying, like, yippee, because that means that they

00:17:45.860 can engage in more provocative behavior. And that, I believe, is destructive. Lou, from the beginning of

00:17:55.300 the present administration, the Chinese have been saying that the U.S. no longer deters them,

00:18:00.100 that we can no longer talk to them from a position of strength, which are the words we heard in

00:18:05.300 Anchorage in March of Biden's first year in office. And everything since then, including the catastrophic

00:18:13.940 withdrawal from Afghanistan, has confirmed in their minds that their assessment was correct. And clearly, 0.99

00:18:21.780 watching the response of the Pentagon and the Oval Office, I think that they probably believe that they can take

00:18:29.620 a swipe at the U.S. and we will be in disarray. I hope that that's not what they're thinking. But that's what I would be

00:18:37.540 thinking if I were in their place. And I just want to ask both of you this question, because you raised the

00:18:44.420 point, Gordon. I mean, what is any of us thinking right now? Are we thinking that we're prepared to

00:18:49.380 take on, let's forget China? Let's forget Russia? I mean, we have lost wars with two countries whose

00:18:56.980 populations number each about 30 million and who are primitive at best in their weaponry and in their 0.65

00:19:07.940 society. We are a country who took a doctrine by David Petraeus, the long war,

00:19:15.860 and turned it into a manifesto for how a superpower should try to achieve military ends in Pakistan

00:19:24.420 and, excuse me, Afghanistan and Iraq. I mean, how preposterous do we look to the world for our 1.00

00:19:33.860 antics, our decisions, our foreign policy over the last 20 years, with the exception of four years

00:19:40.660 with Donald Trump, four years in which we didn't go to war? Well, the answer is we have people who

00:19:48.140 recognize the lessons of history who have been trying to instruct every administration. The only

00:19:53.380 one that listened was the Trump administration, and Trump acted on his instincts, and his instincts

00:19:57.760 were excellent. That's why you see these anecdotal incidents of generals holding back information from

00:20:05.520 Trump. You and I both know that happened. And they weren't, they didn't want him to act on his

00:20:09.620 instincts because he would have defended us and created conditions for us to be prepared to fight

00:20:14.060 this. We're not prepared right now. Militarily, we see a lot of our resources that should be prepared

00:20:20.560 to use against China going to Ukraine. We have all of our global stocks now depleted of all the weapons

00:20:25.800 we might have to use going into that fight. I would argue it's a mistake to put so many of our high-tech

00:20:32.560 weapons into that theater with no clear objective or strategy to win. I don't want to comment and get us

00:20:37.780 off on that track. I'm just saying that our primary focus should be the military domination of the

00:20:43.400 Pacific Rim, since we know we have a challenger there who's going to interfere with good commerce

00:20:47.480 and order. I am not a neocon. I am not looking for a fight. I've actually debated this with Ron Paul

00:20:55.020 at his issue. And I said, you know, as much as I appreciate not wanting to go to war, if we allow a

00:21:01.880 country like the PRC, like China, to dominate the Pacific, the lines of communication, the lines of 0.54

00:21:08.520 commerce, we will not like the results. So this is where I think it's at our interest now to redefine

00:21:14.340 what our strategic objectives are, to come up with what I would call a plan orange. We actually used

00:21:18.740 something called plan orange during World War II, Lou, that came out of the Army and Navy war colleges

00:21:23.020 between the two wars in the 30s, as the plan we actually eventually used to defeat the Japanese in the

00:21:28.940 Pacific. We have no such thinking, even though many of us, some of those currently in DoD even, and I

00:21:34.080 don't want to trash everybody in DoD because they still have people who are smart. They're trying to think

00:21:37.940 through this, being overruled because of the political objectives and policies of this White House and the

00:21:44.920 previous White House. This is a policy failure, Lou, not one of imagination or strategic thinking by people

00:21:53.020 who understand this. This is a political decision to leave us open like we are right now.

00:21:57.240 And you didn't use his name, but I will. General Milley has his stamp on this across two

00:22:06.680 administrations. When is this woke fool of a general going to be removed? When will this Defense 0.99

00:22:14.860 Department be held accountable for what it is doing to national security and not in the interest of the

00:22:22.720 United States? Well, I guess I can get that real quick. Mark Milley should have resigned the day

00:22:28.080 the Afghan failure happened. That should have been his swan song. And he didn't. And he's still there. 1.00

00:22:34.440 The reason he's still there, Lou, is because he's become a political apparatchik of the current

00:22:39.220 White House. That's why he's still there. And he is a political general. And look, I've just a quick

00:22:45.000 note. I was I was his guy on the transition team, on the transition team. And Lou, I sat in Milley's

00:22:51.060 office when he was chief of staff of the army. He lectured me for 30 minutes about what a threat

00:22:55.840 China was to us. He lectured me. He said he talked to the generals. They've all told him the intent is

00:23:00.740 to dominate the Pacific. He's read their doctrine. So I can tell you that the Mark Milley that spoke to

00:23:05.440 me then in December of 16 is not the Mark Milley who is now politically pliable to the desires and

00:23:11.420 political goals of this administration. It's horrific. And yeah, Mark Milley should resign

00:23:16.580 based on that alone. Retired Colonel, Lieutenant Colonel, Tony Schaefer and the host of the Hard

00:23:22.940 Truth radio show. Thanks for being with us. Tony has got to an engagement. He's going to leave.

00:23:29.220 And Gordon, I understand you can stay with us here for a few minutes as we round this out and

00:23:34.140 fill in the shapes that Tony has given us. Thanks, Tony. Great to see you. Thanks for being

00:23:42.600 here. Gordon, let's turn to that issue of Milley. I don't want to let go of it because

00:23:47.780 he and Lloyd Austin have behaved like utter fools. I'm just I'm not going to sugarcoat a thing here 0.99

00:23:54.880 today. This administration is endangering the American people. This is a it can be described

00:24:03.200 any way you want it. A balloon drifting across the Pacific harmlessly. It had apparently explosives

00:24:11.420 designed to self-destruct. We don't know what else is there. And they fired a sidewinder missile at it

00:24:17.820 after saying they're going to bring it down in a slower descent, if not controlled descent by firing

00:24:23.900 20 millimeter cannon at it at the balloon itself rather than setting off an explosive warhead on a

00:24:31.600 sidewinder missile that had to damage the payload. Your thoughts?

00:24:38.980 The important thing here is that they could have brought this down well before then in uninhabited

00:24:46.360 territory, as you say, in a controlled descent, where we would have had a chance to recover the

00:24:52.440 gondola, which has the surveillance equipment intact. And there's been a failure in the Pentagon.

00:24:59.460 And it starts with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Milley. But it's also probably Lloyd

00:25:06.080 Austin as well, because both of them are political. But whereas Lloyd Austin is supposed to be political

00:25:12.840 because he is the president's appointee, Milley is supposed to give his unvarnished military advice

00:25:19.780 to the president. And it doesn't seem like that that's occurred in this case. The one thing, if we step

00:25:25.660 back, is that there is a lack of sense of urgency at the top reaches of the Pentagon. And it's Milley,

00:25:32.200 it's Austin, and it's many of the three and four stars. Because China, we know, is preparing for war. 0.77

00:25:39.320 They have the fastest military buildup since the Second World War. They're trying to sanction-proof

00:25:44.540 their regime. And they're also trying to mobilize China's civilians for war. And at the same time,

00:25:50.800 we have a president who is oblivious. So this is a dangerous recipe for national success. And to me,

00:26:00.020 it looks like it's a recipe for national destruction. And it starts with the president, but also it goes

00:26:06.860 deep into the Pentagon.

00:26:09.480 And as to the perception on the part of the Chinese, let's talk about the world perception of this

00:26:17.560 administration. We know that this president is a laughingstock in every setting, whether it be G20,

00:26:24.620 whether it be ASEAN, whatever, the conference. He looks out of place, out of step. He can barely

00:26:33.640 take steps toward his chair at the table. How much longer can this be tolerated? And why should the

00:26:42.840 Republican Congress not insist that there be a house cleaning in that defense department and in

00:26:48.940 the intelligence community? We know through the reporting of John Sullivan at Just the News

00:26:54.260 that NORAD had to go back four years to figure out what had happened. And there had been transgressions,

00:27:04.420 incursions, if you will. They weren't detected until after the fact, four years in some cases after the

00:27:12.500 fact. And that shows the failure of the United States. We Americans in our own country are

00:27:20.800 vulnerable to China. And this is just something which is stark when you think about it, that the 0.51

00:27:27.300 Chinese were, for one reason or another, able to float this balloon, maneuver it around our most 1.00

00:27:33.100 sensitive sites, and get all the information and intelligence that they needed. And we just

00:27:38.860 watched helplessly. We American citizens have looked up in the sky and saw this balloon just

00:27:45.520 travel over us. And that has to be a warning. I hope that we take this as a warning like October

00:27:53.660 1957 with Sputnik, which spurred the United States not only to compete in space, but also to strengthen

00:28:01.760 our country across the board. God knows if we don't do that, Lou, if we don't listen to what

00:28:08.440 you've been saying for a long time, we're going to lose our country. We're a far stronger country

00:28:14.400 than China, especially now. But we can lose our country because China is assaulting us, and we're 0.98

00:28:20.840 not defending ourselves with the robustness or with the urgency that is obviously required.

00:28:26.720 Well, thank you for that. And I concur. I just wonder what next steps can lead us

00:28:37.080 quickly to a better state of readiness and an immediate consciousness of what is happening to

00:28:48.700 this country. This is a president that has no idea what he's doing. He is a tool of the Marxist

00:28:56.160 Dems. He himself is Marxist by nature and instinct. And it's being tolerated. The Republicans still

00:29:04.900 think this is a contest between two political parties. It's not. The Democrats are now Marxist

00:29:13.900 Dems. They're a fifth column in this country. And woe be to all of us if the Republican Party,

00:29:21.400 which is the only countervailing influence and power to the Marxist Dems, don't awaken to that

00:29:29.240 reality. You get these, if you will, your concluding thoughts here. We always give you the last word

00:29:35.740 here. The most important thing is we need as Americans to say China is not a competitor. It's

00:29:42.700 not even an adversary. It is the enemy. If we're able to do that, then we can fashion policies

00:29:49.560 quickly to protect ourselves. But if we don't do that, we are going to find that we're going to

00:29:55.020 lose our country because, as I mentioned, we're just not defending ourselves. We're still funding

00:30:02.160 China's military, which is configuring itself to kill Americans. That is strategically wrong, 0.92

00:30:08.300 but more important, it's morally wrong.

00:30:13.460 And with that, Gordon, as always, it's great to have you with us. We thank you for being with us,

00:30:18.980 and thank you for your insight and wisdom as always. God bless you, my friend. Thanks for

00:30:24.120 being here. Well, thank you so much, Lou, and God bless you.

00:30:27.760 Thanks to Gordon Chang and Tony Schaefer, great Americans both, and thank you for being with us

00:30:32.660 today. Folks, join us tomorrow when former top Trump official and author of the new book,

00:30:37.860 Government Gangsters, Kash Patel, will join us. Till then, God bless you, and God bless America.

The Great America Show - February 08, 2023

GORDON CHANG & TONY SHAFFER SAY THE CHINA BALLOON WAS DESIGNED TO INTIMIDATE JOE BIDEN AND U.S. MILITARY

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