The Great America Show - GOVERNMENT CREATED MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS

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00:00:33.940 Hello, everybody.

00:00:34.980 I'm John Fawson and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:37.140 It's great to have you with us.

00:00:38.400 Lou has the day off.

00:00:39.960 Rhino Ramna Ronnie McDaniel fired from another job.

00:00:43.040 The second time she's been fired in less than a month.

00:00:46.080 Rhino was hired by NBC last week as a contributor and made her debut this past Sunday. 0.95

00:00:50.780 But after much pushback from the Marxist Dem anchors on the network, NBC decided to terminate her contract this week.

00:00:56.600 This reporting out from Punchbowl News.

00:00:58.580 The report says that execs are deliberating over details with an announcement pending.

00:01:02.980 Meanwhile, Rhino Ramni McDaniel is seeking legal representation.

00:01:06.760 First, she was forced out by the RNC.

00:01:08.780 And now the Marxist Dems don't even want her. 0.89

00:01:10.820 Go figure.

00:01:12.300 And Dr. Jill Biden.

00:01:13.380 We call her doctor facetiously because we all know she's not really a doctor.

00:01:17.300 Was out in California yesterday for a fundraiser for her husband's campaign.

00:01:20.780 And boy, it's hard to tell which of the two Bidens is more cognitively impaired.

00:01:25.140 Take a listen to Jill Biden compare banning sexually explicit content in elementary schools to Nazi Germany during World War II.

00:01:32.620 History teaches us that democracies don't disappear overnight.

00:01:38.100 They disappear slowly, subtly, silently.

00:01:44.960 A book ban, a court decision, a don't say gay law.

00:01:51.720 Before World War II, I'm told, Berlin was the center of LGBTQ culture in Europe.

00:01:58.440 One group of people loses their rights and then another and then another.

00:02:08.000 Until one morning you wake up and you no longer live in a democracy. 1.00

00:02:14.500 Folks, it almost feels like we're living in another universe with the stupidity of these Marxist Dems. 1.00

00:02:19.240 Each day that goes by, it gets dumber and dumber and dumber. 1.00

00:02:23.020 Turning now to some politics. 0.99

00:02:24.540 Congress is off for the next two weeks.

00:02:26.160 And by the way, anytime Congress is not at work, it's probably for the best of the country. 0.99

00:02:30.240 There's less of a chance they'll do something stupid like perhaps pass a $1.2 trillion spending bill. 0.98

00:02:35.380 Effectively turning over control of the government to Marxist Dems Chuck Schumer. 0.98

00:02:39.220 Well, Congressman Tim Burchard, who's probably one of the most level-headed and honest members of Congress, has finally had enough.

00:02:45.560 Take a listen to Congressman Burchard call out all the rhinos for helping Mike Johnson pass that spending bill. 1.00

00:02:50.860 He says it's time for the American people to get these rhinos the hell out of office. 0.99

00:02:55.320 You are seeing the beginning of the end for the United States of America. 0.99

00:03:00.120 Dadgummit, if you don't like the people in office, vote their asses out. 0.99

00:03:04.100 I don't care if you play golf with them. 1.00

00:03:05.680 I don't care if you go to church with them. 0.62

00:03:08.060 Get them out of here. 0.99

00:03:09.360 They are ruining your country. 0.70

00:03:10.860 Don't let them come home and throw you the red meat and say,

00:03:14.380 Oh, I'm voting against this.

00:03:16.320 I'm voting against that. 1.00

00:03:17.320 That's a bunch of garbage. 0.99

00:03:18.460 They are selling your country out for the Uniparty, for these National Chambers of Commerce that wreck every dadgum thing. 0.99

00:03:25.740 Look, they want somebody on your roof that doesn't speak the language, that is not from this country, that is not here legally. 1.00

00:03:32.160 Because you know what happens when they fall off? 1.00

00:03:34.140 They kick their ass out. 1.00

00:03:35.560 They throw them to the curb. 1.00

00:03:36.900 They're in the emergency room.

00:03:38.300 You and I are paying for their health care, and they don't give a damn about them one bit.

00:03:42.960 And that's what these National Chambers of Commerce, that's what the Uniparty is.

00:03:46.300 Write that in your dadgum newspapers.

00:03:48.900 We've got to take our country back.

00:03:50.960 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:03:52.580 It sounds awfully like Congressman Birchett has had enough of Mike Johnson and his deceit to the conference.

00:03:57.600 Well, with the election coming up in less than eight months, it's time for the Marxist Dems to start planning how they will try and steal this one.

00:04:03.280 In 2020, it was COVID, or as we call it here, the China virus.

00:04:06.880 So what will it be next?

00:04:08.400 Will it be another China virus-esque type deal? 0.82

00:04:11.080 Or will they draw up a whole new playbook with the WHO and the CDC on how they could keep Americans trapped in their homes?

00:04:17.620 Before Lou headed off on a short vacation, he sat down with Dr. Drew Pinsky to get his sense on what and who we should believe anymore with all the disinformation that was spewed upon us over the last four years.

00:04:28.840 Here is Lou's discussion with Dr. Drew.

00:04:31.440 Dr. Drew, great to have you with us.

00:04:33.100 Thanks for joining us here on The Great America Show.

00:04:35.540 And we're hearing a lot from our audience about what is happening with the, really, the public health agencies.

00:04:44.720 The information seems to be scattered.

00:04:47.400 It seems to be disjointed.

00:04:49.580 And we don't know to what agency or to what source to turn for reliable information.

00:04:58.260 Yeah, Lou, you're making me sigh when you say that.

00:05:00.740 You know, I've been a physician for 40 years.

00:05:03.360 My dad was a family practitioner.

00:05:04.680 My uncle was a psychiatrist.

00:05:07.020 I am deeply invested in this profession.

00:05:10.640 My identity is tied up in it.

00:05:12.920 My family, my father, myself, this job of taking care of patients, we've always thought was sacred and so important.

00:05:22.060 We thought we, you know, me and my peers, we thought we were doing something so terribly important.

00:05:26.080 And that important part, a key feature of that was us putting the patient above all else, that the person in front of us was the absolute categorical priority and nothing else got in the way of that.

00:05:40.080 Well, that relationship has been so severely adulterated by and COVID just just tore the scab off all this.

00:05:49.500 I even I wasn't aware how bad it had gotten.

00:05:51.500 I spent my whole career fighting insurance companies and all the things that adulterated my ability.

00:05:56.820 The hospital administration, the utilization review nurses, things that adulterated my ability to deliver the best possible care for that given individual in front of me.

00:06:05.760 And COVID showed me that we have lost.

00:06:08.980 We just lost.

00:06:09.760 We physicians have become employees.

00:06:13.060 They do not consider their job more important than their own health, which we always did.

00:06:18.540 Sorry, but we did.

00:06:19.980 You know, that's why we didn't sleep and committed ourselves to the patients above all else.

00:06:26.740 And it's why I got involved with the wellness company, because I began thinking that, you know, we have to empower patients now because the physician patient relationship has been so encumbered.

00:06:38.460 Now, in medicine, generally, the more you superimpose anything on the most efficient unit, which is, you know, sort of an Adam Smithian unit, which is a patient physician unit.

00:06:50.160 You add bureaucracy on top that you are ruining it.

00:06:52.920 You're adulterating it.

00:06:54.020 You're making things less effective, less efficient and less quality for the patient themselves.

00:06:58.740 So we have centralized things.

00:07:01.520 We have made physicians employees.

00:07:03.040 We have put public health in a position of authority that has never been postulated before.

00:07:09.380 Lou, I had a nightly newscast on a local show, a local affiliate here in Los Angeles during COVID.

00:07:16.660 And we were trying to help people kind of figure things out.

00:07:18.840 I was trying to get everybody to calm down.

00:07:20.440 Panic never makes things better.

00:07:22.780 Fear never makes things better.

00:07:24.680 And the fact that the public health officials were using fear as a technique was astonishing to me.

00:07:30.060 We actually thought it was the press doing it.

00:07:31.880 So I blamed the press for it.

00:07:33.060 It never occurred to me that the government and the public health officials would be duplicitous in all this.

00:07:38.120 But, of course, they were.

00:07:39.140 And we know now they were.

00:07:40.700 But I got into a little bit of a tiff with my co-host, who's an excellent guy.

00:07:44.980 And he goes, you know, what does the FDA say about this?

00:07:47.580 I said, I don't care what the FDA says.

00:07:49.640 I taught medicine for decades.

00:07:52.180 Never once did these words come out of my mouth to the students I was training, the residents.

00:07:56.920 What's the FDA say about this?

00:07:58.340 No, never, ever.

00:08:00.460 They determine what comes to market, not what we decide to do with those things in the marketplace that are in the best interest of our patient.

00:08:09.320 So there's my little diatribe.

00:08:11.140 Lou, I'm sorry.

00:08:11.860 You pushed a button there.

00:08:12.740 That got me going.

00:08:14.200 And you asked the question of who to trust.

00:08:17.360 And you certainly can't trust centralized authority.

00:08:21.980 That is a huge mistake.

00:08:23.380 The best you can do is find caretakers that you believe you can trust, individual caretakers.

00:08:29.100 It's always been that way.

00:08:30.480 It will always be that way.

00:08:32.480 You can trust us at the wellness company.

00:08:34.500 We have, you know, telehealth and that kind of thing.

00:08:36.280 It's a very motivated group.

00:08:37.380 Try to help people that don't trust the general populace.

00:08:42.560 But, again, getting to the system is so encumbered.

00:08:46.280 That's why people are, you know, again, we have these, sorry, I keep going back to wellness.

00:08:51.700 I'm excited about those guys.

00:08:52.920 We have kits now that people can get very easily.

00:08:55.360 Why should you wait weeks to go to a doctor that somebody you don't have a personal relationship with?

00:08:59.540 Why should you spend $1,500 to walk into an urgent care center?

00:09:02.440 It makes no sense.

00:09:04.440 Our system is severely, severely broken.

00:09:06.880 It is, and you're talking about the wellness company and what they're making available to the public in the way of preparatorial medicine, if I can call it that.

00:09:18.840 It is, to me, it makes all the sense in the world.

00:09:23.100 And to have a kit that's available with antibiotics or whatever, you know, included there.

00:09:33.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:33.780 You know how to use them.

00:09:34.840 So what, you're going to, these things, these medicines have been around for decades.

00:09:39.780 Humans, adults know how to use them.

00:09:42.480 You should have access to education with physician backup through telehealth, and you should have access to these things at a reasonable price.

00:09:51.240 It's, you know, most companies, a lot of countries have these things over the counter.

00:09:54.720 You're on your own completely.

00:09:55.960 But at least we're sort of, we're prescribing it, we're watching it, we're managing it, we're giving you access to physicians.

00:10:00.880 It can be done, and it can be done very cost effectively.

00:10:03.980 And, you know, some of them are sitting here right in front of me, because I travel.

00:10:07.840 The travel kit is a thing I set up myself, because I give my patients a group of medication when they travel.

00:10:15.300 And I said, why shouldn't everybody?

00:10:16.960 I tell them what they need for what circumstance, and I give it to them should they need it.

00:10:22.560 And oftentimes they do, and it shouldn't be incumbent on some health care system in Sri Lanka or wherever they're visiting.

00:10:29.680 You're smiling.

00:10:30.860 Well, I'm smiling because we were at our place down in Florida a couple of weeks ago, and I caught a cold.

00:10:37.940 And there was my little blue kit.

00:10:42.360 And luckily, I didn't have to resort to any of it, because I'm just a powerhouse of immunity.

00:10:50.140 I got lucky.

00:10:51.120 Good.

00:10:51.380 You're right.

00:10:52.100 No, that's right.

00:10:52.740 And you shouldn't, you, you, you.

00:10:54.220 Look, again, I could go on all day about this, but I've shifted.

00:10:57.840 I've spent all these years taking care of sick people.

00:11:00.200 And I really had the, you know, I thought that, you know, that I was too busy taking care of sick people.

00:11:05.820 And now I've realized also we've sort of lost the battle on chronic illness, too, because we are really ill in this country, psychiatrically and medically.

00:11:14.420 And I'm sort of shifting my focus in my own older years back to wellness and, you know, exercise and diet and taking care of your mental health and making meaning of life.

00:11:24.140 This whole, you know, the whole notion of happiness has become adulterated in this country.

00:11:27.740 We don't even know what we're talking about or thinking about anymore.

00:11:30.980 I think you're exactly right.

00:11:32.600 We're talking with Dr. Drew Pinsky, and we're going to talk some more.

00:11:36.380 We're going to talk about your health, our health, and wellness.

00:11:41.580 We'll be right back.

00:11:42.580 Please stay with us.

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00:13:17.440 We're back now.

00:13:21.080 We're talking with Dr. Drew Pinsky and talking about health in this country.

00:13:26.360 And Dr. Drew saying point blank, what I think most of us are saying, at least amongst our friends, is that this country right now is not well.

00:13:37.840 Mentally, so much of what is happening in our society, in my opinion, is directly attributable to pathology of some kind.

00:13:51.780 For sure.

00:13:52.360 And I'm not smart enough to know what all of the illnesses are, but I do know this.

00:13:57.580 We're watching a country in deep pain with deep troubles.

00:14:01.760 Your thoughts?

00:14:02.340 Well, again, you pushed the right buttons for me.

00:14:06.740 And so I'm going to sort of approach this from two angles.

00:14:09.320 One is I wrote a book about narcissism back in the early 2000s.

00:14:13.680 And I saw the narcissistic turn happening.

00:14:16.940 I was talking to people on radio every night.

00:14:18.920 And every caller had been injured during childhood by a destroyed family system, by drug-addicted parents, sexual abuse, physical abuse, and neglect.

00:14:27.520 It was just clearly that was a pandemic at the time.

00:14:30.320 And I was working in a psychiatric hospital at the time as well.

00:14:33.060 And I watched the diagnostic sort of scatter go from a variety of different personality disorders to one and only one represented on all the diagnostic sheets.

00:14:44.480 Initially, it was borderline personality disorder, and then it was ultimately the cluster B or the narcissistic disorders.

00:14:52.100 You never saw anything else.

00:14:53.860 So we clearly had a turn towards narcissism, which is a well-established outcome of childhood trauma.

00:15:01.020 So there we go.

00:15:02.640 And in my book on narcissism, I wanted to write about other periods of history where this had happened.

00:15:07.340 And the most clear example I could find was pre-revolutionary France.

00:15:11.920 And I thought, well, there's going to be guillotines and there's going to be mobs.

00:15:16.760 And I wanted to write a chapter about it.

00:15:18.080 My editor said it was too speculative.

00:15:21.700 And social media didn't exist yet.

00:15:24.040 The term cancellation hadn't been invented yet.

00:15:26.380 But that is your mob, social media mobs, and your guillotine is cancellation.

00:15:31.860 That is it.

00:15:33.020 And if those of you that delight in putting people...

00:15:35.920 I have to say, I have to say, that is funny as can be to me.

00:15:38.940 And I'm applauding as I say that, because it also seems so apt.

00:15:43.760 Right.

00:15:43.960 It's true, right?

00:15:44.600 It rings true. 0.99

00:15:45.380 And here's the other thing that's true for those of you that delight in putting people up on the guillotine.

00:15:50.880 Study your history.

00:15:52.160 Because the one thing about those sorts of mob actions that is inevitable in all historical context

00:15:58.420 is if you put somebody up on the guillotine, eventually you're going on the guillotine.

00:16:03.440 First, it was the Jacobins.

00:16:04.660 Then it was the Girardins.

00:16:05.700 Then it was the Saint-Colot.

00:16:06.680 And then it wasn't until a strong man came in and put a stop to all of it that this came to an end when Napoleon came in.

00:16:13.560 But before that, each group put the next group up on the scaffolding.

00:16:17.780 You stop it, everybody.

00:16:19.320 You need to stop it.

00:16:20.300 So that's one aspect of what's going on right now.

00:16:22.900 The other aspect, I would argue, is a deficiency in an understanding of what makes humans happy

00:16:29.320 and what makes life meaningful.

00:16:31.440 We are meaning-making machines.

00:16:34.040 And it is extremely important for us to be well, to make meaning.

00:16:38.780 And we have lost that completely.

00:16:41.400 And the fact is, when that is studied, it always shows up that important relationships are the key

00:16:48.760 and having a skill and a wisdom that you can use to help other people, essentially.

00:16:58.700 Being of service to your community, to people.

00:17:00.940 It's what I thought I was doing as a physician.

00:17:03.280 It's what we used to do.

00:17:04.360 It's what made it so wonderful.

00:17:05.600 We always had that.

00:17:06.500 But now that has become a sort of, we've become sort of box checkers on electronic medical records

00:17:12.920 and that ability to contribute meaningfully and making meaning the way these, you know,

00:17:17.980 in my profession, and certainly this is true in a lot of places, it's more difficult to do so.

00:17:23.080 And I would argue the enemy is bureaucracy.

00:17:25.780 That is the enemy right now of happiness.

00:17:29.820 Bureaucracy.

00:17:30.680 In what form?

00:17:32.020 Were you talking about the post office?

00:17:33.900 Are we talking about the IRS?

00:17:35.440 Anything really that prevents us from creatively using our skills and wisdom to offer something

00:17:42.540 to another human being, which is all the encumbrances of electronics and supervisors

00:17:48.400 and on high regulations and structures to it.

00:17:53.980 All that just makes us robots.

00:17:55.460 It doesn't make us give the ability to serve other people.

00:17:59.920 Now, you can find other ways to do it, for sure.

00:18:03.240 It doesn't have to be with your job.

00:18:05.140 You can find other ways to be of service and make meaning.

00:18:08.480 But it turns out that, you know, humans, they don't get the kind of nourishment they need from service

00:18:14.180 unless they have a skill and a wisdom that they can offer to another person.

00:18:18.840 That seems to be the most effective way.

00:18:21.240 And look at, Blue, you look at every epic poem and every sort of philosophical treatment.

00:18:30.080 They always go to the same place, which is come home.

00:18:33.740 Candide, Voltaire ends Candide with, well, what did you learn through all your word troubles?

00:18:39.120 I learned that you should cultivate your own garden.

00:18:42.160 Come back home.

00:18:43.220 Serve the people that are important to you.

00:18:45.060 Be in close, intimate contact with others and serve them.

00:18:48.800 That's it.

00:18:49.360 That's the human experience.

00:18:50.280 And we do not know that in this country.

00:18:52.160 I think you're right.

00:18:54.420 And I also think that it is a, I wouldn't have thought to call it wisdom, but I think

00:19:00.000 that the rational citizen right now loses perspective often that his or her community is far more

00:19:10.480 important than what the United Nations is saying about anything, irrespective of the subject.

00:19:16.320 It's far more important than anything that the U.S. Congress or the U.S. Senate is saying,

00:19:22.400 and I don't care what the subject is again, because that proximity and that control over your life

00:19:28.000 begins with that garden of yours, and metaphorically as well as in actuality.

00:19:35.700 And your neighborhood and your community, because there you have the greatest control

00:19:40.940 over your life and benefiting others.

00:19:44.680 That's right.

00:19:45.360 And unfortunately, social media has made it feel like all these bigger, far away forces

00:19:50.880 are in our neighborhood because they're right here on the phone.

00:19:54.260 But the reality is, look out your window and think about what actually affects your life.

00:19:58.640 It is your local government.

00:20:00.800 It's the roads. 1.00

00:20:01.700 It's the garbage. 1.00

00:20:02.700 It's the police. 1.00

00:20:03.480 It's the fire.

00:20:04.220 It's the power and water services.

00:20:08.520 I was thinking that in Pasadena, we have wonderful services in all those areas.

00:20:12.380 And so why do I worry about the next level?

00:20:15.320 Alexis de Tocqueville, another French reference here, came to this country in the early 18th

00:20:20.200 century.

00:20:21.240 And he was actually looking at our so-called penitentiary system at the time.

00:20:25.400 But he ended up writing a very famous book on political science called Democracy in America.

00:20:29.940 He wanted to understand why democracy worked in America.

00:20:32.940 And he his ultimate conclusion was it was local practice of democracy that and the regular

00:20:40.760 practice of democracy that resulted in its efficacy at higher levels.

00:20:45.240 So it is incumbent on all of us to do that local practice, be involved in the local practice

00:20:52.480 of democracy.

00:20:53.760 And we preach that quite often here on this show because we really not only intend that

00:21:00.480 we're going to take back this country on November 5th, but that we want the country to be solid

00:21:07.480 and sustainable and to amount to something once again.

00:21:12.340 Some people call it making America great again.

00:21:14.540 I just call it, you know, long live the republic.

00:21:19.240 We were talking with Dr. Drew Pinsky, and I am having more fun talking with you and listening

00:21:24.800 to your thoughts.

00:21:25.980 And I appreciate it.

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00:21:52.740 And I want to talk a lot more about the wellness company and what people can expect from them.

00:21:57.420 And we're talking with Drew Pinsky.

00:21:59.520 We'll be right back.

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00:22:04.800 Stay with us.

00:22:07.300 Lou Dobbs here.

00:22:08.320 I'm delighted to let you all know that the program Lou Dobbs Tonight has returned to the air.

00:22:14.720 That's right.

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00:22:30.700 I hope you'll be joining us for Lou Dobbs Tonight as our fight to save this country has only begun.

00:22:43.320 So we're back with Dr. Drew Pinsky of the Wellness Company.

00:22:47.340 And I want to start with where you were with mental illness in this country.

00:22:53.440 You talked about childhood trauma as being a predicate or the cause of so much mental illness.

00:23:03.720 But is it all what we're watching is these are psychopaths out there in our public arena right now behaving as they do, whether it's BLM or whether it is a border that is run by Mexican drug cartels, whatever it may be.

00:23:22.100 There just seems to be just sheer madness here when a nation sort of puts down its hands and says, we won't guard our border.

00:23:31.440 We won't protect our citizens.

00:23:33.580 And so be it.

00:23:35.520 Yeah, it is hard to understand it.

00:23:38.940 And there's many theories out there.

00:23:40.620 I don't think that the structural issues you're talking about are mental illness.

00:23:45.840 I also worry about being pejorative about the labels that I toss around.

00:23:51.580 Look, if you want a good fighter pilot, you want a narcissist with a biological heritage of alcoholism.

00:23:59.180 Those guys, those guys are good when they're in extreme circumstances.

00:24:03.060 But you may not want them as your neighbor because that can be a little challenging.

00:24:08.020 And so the terms have, you know, they become problematic in certain circumstances.

00:24:13.420 And I think the fact that people, the present circumstance is that narcissism isn't by itself a bad thing per se.

00:24:25.480 Actually, the individuals with it suffer more than anybody, except that it has a the liability of it is envy and empathic failure and underlying narcissism.

00:24:41.860 There's often a rage.

00:24:43.520 So if you have envy and you don't really care about other people's feelings, well, now here it comes.

00:24:49.780 And that's how that's what mobs do. 1.00

00:24:52.120 That's what that's mobs sort of discharge that so they don't go at each other.

00:24:56.040 That's how mobs work. 0.99

00:24:58.300 And so I worry about envy.

00:25:00.200 I worry about cultivating envy.

00:25:02.260 I worry about people making some people, you know, objects of envy.

00:25:06.380 It's it's look at every religion on Earth.

00:25:08.440 They always have injunctions against the human emotion of envy because it is so destructive.

00:25:14.000 So we have to do something about containing that.

00:25:18.320 But that's what you when you're saying, you know, what's going on out there, that's what you're looking at is essentially narcissistic rage getting acted out.

00:25:25.960 And it only responds to containment.

00:25:28.500 So it really is important to us.

00:25:30.660 Everybody feels better when they're contained and they're not out of control with these emotions.

00:25:36.000 So to bring, you know, I look at the homeless situation here drives me out of my mind because these are my patients on the street.

00:25:42.380 These are people I my patients untreated in relapse end up on the street very quickly.

00:25:46.940 That's where they go. And you're not allowed to go near them and do anything to help them in the state of California.

00:25:53.420 And they're dying in L.A. County at literally eight a day.

00:25:58.340 That is they're running open air hospitals without doctors and nurses.

00:26:02.600 Eight people are dying a day. That is negligent manslaughter.

00:26:06.220 And of course, because of qualified immunity, you can't say anything to these people.

00:26:09.840 That's the kind of thing that is out of control.

00:26:13.180 There are well-meaning policies and things in place that prevent us from doing things to actually help people.

00:26:19.360 And that's where things are upside down right now.

00:26:22.660 No, as I as I listen to you, I think of an irony in what you're saying, because we began by talking about bureaucracy as a principal causal agent of this.

00:26:37.120 And then we've done it and we've played it defining it.

00:26:41.220 Yeah. But the bureaucracy reasserts itself in exactly the form that you're talking about.

00:26:47.620 You can't reach you can't reach out to these people because there are rules, there are laws, there is bureaucracy.

00:26:53.600 And we have in the state of California, for example, in state of New York and most major states in the country.

00:27:02.520 Mindless bureaucracy built on mindless bureaucracy.

00:27:06.180 And and what you're really describing is a closed feedback loop that is eternal if we don't break out.

00:27:14.920 That's right. And so and now so go back to covid. Right.

00:27:17.140 So all kinds of terrible policies were perpetrated on the public without any concern for the risk reward of those policies.

00:27:26.940 It was I was screaming about it right at the beginning.

00:27:29.520 There was extremely obvious to me that there would be mental health consequences.

00:27:33.460 And now I kept saying, look, you're nine to 16 years old.

00:27:37.060 You're eight to 14.

00:27:38.700 And somebody says to you, shelter in place like our mayor did every night.

00:27:43.280 And if you don't shelter in place, you're going to kill your family.

00:27:46.620 And in the meantime, what you need to be OK as a 12 year old is contact with your peers.

00:27:52.020 No, we can't give you that.

00:27:53.560 And we're going to pull you out of school so you can't have any cognitive development either. 0.98

00:27:57.660 That is disgusting.

00:28:00.000 And it's clear that that would result in the mental health consequences.

00:28:03.620 And here it comes. And now it's on.

00:28:05.480 And we're accumulating more and more data about that.

00:28:08.000 The point being, at no point does the bureaucracy stand up and go, you know,

00:28:12.820 we made a mistake. We we really thought we were doing the best thing,

00:28:15.680 but we made a big mistake. Sorry, we didn't intend this.

00:28:17.920 Never. And changing direction was impossible.

00:28:22.340 That's the other part about bureaucracy.

00:28:23.900 They can't change direction.

00:28:25.680 And now what we're talking about health and people's well-being, the worst, the worst.

00:28:31.620 Yeah, it's it's it's truly as I as I reflected what you're saying here today,

00:28:37.040 I'm thinking you're talking about you don't want to have any pejorative around mental,

00:28:43.600 quote, unquote, mental illness, whatever the term would be.

00:28:47.000 But you know what?

00:28:48.460 There's a there is a pejorative about disease because it is attacking the body.

00:28:54.640 There is a pejorative about mental illness because it's attacking the mind.

00:28:58.660 And I think we're all I guess I resist the the the the implied condescension of the medical community

00:29:11.160 when they talk about, well, we don't want to have pejoratives.

00:29:13.460 Well, you know what?

00:29:14.920 We're talking pejoratives and we're talking about adult behavior.

00:29:17.420 We're talking about context and not just simply relativism, but absolute concepts that have to be.

00:29:26.880 I think, you know, it doesn't have to be put before us on a velvet pillow.

00:29:30.740 Yeah.

00:29:31.160 We can talk straight about it.

00:29:32.680 And I think that's what we've lost an ability to do in this society.

00:29:36.560 Yes.

00:29:36.940 No, you can't. 0.72

00:29:37.660 That I believe that is part of that mental illness of bureaucracy, the mind, if you will.

00:29:43.000 You're right.

00:29:43.760 I mean, you can judge you and you should be at your liberty to do so when people engage in destructive behaviors.

00:29:53.360 It's it's not right to say you cannot judge.

00:29:56.220 But but being judgmental, you you sort of get into philosophical zones with that, not medical.

00:30:04.420 I always the way I always the kinds of judgment issues that I always brought to bear for patients was a if you don't do what I tell you

00:30:12.740 and you end up breaking the law.

00:30:14.660 That's on you.

00:30:15.980 That's it.

00:30:16.520 You've now broken the law.

00:30:17.380 It's out of my hands and there will be consequences.

00:30:19.420 And those consequences should be delivered with force, period.

00:30:22.760 Number one.

00:30:23.480 Number two, you may not be responsible for your illness or there may be you may have some duplicity in it.

00:30:28.580 And you've got to look at that.

00:30:29.460 You ought to own that.

00:30:30.620 But you are responsible for your treatment.

00:30:32.440 You are responsible for your recovery.

00:30:33.960 And if you don't do that, then we can't judge you.

00:30:37.540 Right.

00:30:38.140 For example, we now know 300 people are dying every day of fentanyl overdoses.

00:30:43.320 We have more people dying every year from fentanyl overdoses.

00:30:48.020 Let me be clear, by about 30,000 per year or than died in the entire Vietnam War over a decade.

00:30:59.740 And we are a nation oblivious to that death, that loss, that pain, that suffering.

00:31:06.760 And we are inured to it by social media, legacy media.

00:31:12.300 And we're, in point of fact, averting our eyes.

00:31:16.860 And frankly, I think it's one of our greatest failings as a country right now.

00:31:24.960 I completely agree with you.

00:31:26.020 And you can imagine somebody like me.

00:31:27.640 I'm like a surgeon who sees something I could correct lying on the streets all over the place,

00:31:33.060 and I'm not allowed to go near them.

00:31:34.980 You can understand this.

00:31:35.740 We have this very strange relationship to brain diseases.

00:31:41.240 If my brain disease is dementia, and I'm running around psychotic and disorganized,

00:31:48.400 and I, as a physician, do not treat that individual, I am guilty of patient abuse.

00:31:53.700 If those exact same symptom complexes are caused by schizophrenia,

00:31:58.720 I'm not allowed to treat that patient unless he or she says, I want help, which is insane.

00:32:03.920 Part of the brain diseases affects insight.

00:32:07.240 There's something called anisognosia, which is actually a biological block of insight

00:32:12.380 into what the brain diseases are doing to the individual.

00:32:16.540 Schizophrenia, bipolar, dementia, and addiction.

00:32:21.780 You lose the capacity to see what's happening.

00:32:24.780 Your thinking becomes broken.

00:32:27.200 We call it stinking thinking in the world of addiction treatment.

00:32:29.700 And we have privileged anisognosia and disturbed thinking in the law above people like me's ability

00:32:39.660 to go in and help somebody.

00:32:41.380 That's pretty much of a mess.

00:32:44.020 And it's protected by activists as sort of,

00:32:49.080 who are you to say that these people aren't living their best life? 0.97

00:32:52.300 It's disgusting.

00:32:53.100 And if I could hold them accountable for negligent manslaughter, I would.

00:32:58.280 And then, now we've got them all out on the street,

00:33:01.180 we're serving them with social workers who are wonderful,

00:33:04.920 but not trained medically to manage essentially what is an open-air hospital.

00:33:11.900 It's like asking a physical therapist to do orthopedic surgery.

00:33:15.560 They're not trained to do that.

00:33:17.720 And I gave a lecture to a group of county health officials,

00:33:22.220 and they were all from all over the country,

00:33:24.060 and they were all like, what do you mean?

00:33:25.500 That was just how it was being done when I got the job.

00:33:27.680 I said, okay, fine.

00:33:28.640 It's not your fault.

00:33:29.220 Stop it.

00:33:30.080 Get doctors and nurses in there and start running this as a hospital

00:33:33.140 that you're running outside there.

00:33:35.320 If that's what you want to do, you want to run it outside, fine.

00:33:38.280 But treat these patients.

00:33:41.260 Treat these patients.

00:33:42.040 The issues, the problems, the maladies, the diseases,

00:33:48.120 all of the causes for so much friction and loss in our society,

00:33:55.920 many and some not even discernible,

00:34:01.040 but sufficient that we need good doctors like Dr. Drew Penske

00:34:07.060 to bring our attention to all of it in all forms.

00:34:10.740 I just want to say, you know,

00:34:13.200 the wellness company can't take care of everything,

00:34:15.720 and we've been talking about some of the issues that the wellness company,

00:34:20.960 there's not a kit for a lot of things.

00:34:23.560 We're working on the mental health front.

00:34:24.960 We're going to get there.

00:34:26.200 I'm going to have some ideas on how to get at that too, so stand by.

00:34:29.780 I'm delighted to hear that,

00:34:31.480 and I'm also delighted that the wellness company is putting together these kits

00:34:35.120 that are preparatory for us to be ready to,

00:34:38.840 in whatever the circumstance and emergency,

00:34:42.580 and to, by the way, avoid the bureaucracies whenever we possibly can.

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00:34:55.120 I got to say it one more time.

00:34:57.240 Dr. Drew, thanks a lot.

00:34:58.740 I've really enjoyed our conversation.

00:35:00.300 I know the audience has as well.

00:35:02.000 Thanks so much for all that you're doing,

00:35:03.780 and come back soon, please.

00:35:05.540 Good.

00:35:05.740 There's a lot more for us to talk about.

00:35:07.060 We're just getting started here.

00:35:08.820 There you go.

00:35:09.720 Thanks so much.

00:35:10.540 You bet.

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The Great America Show - March 27, 2024

GOVERNMENT CREATED MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS

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