The Great America Show - March 14, 2025


HAMAS UNLEASHED: CRISIS, CHAOS, AND THREATS ON AMERICAN SOIL


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 21 minutes

Words per Minute

182.49327

Word Count

14,917

Sentence Count

897

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

48


Summary

Hamas agitators just don t give up. They go to the highest levels of the NYPD to protest the arrest of a Jewish graduate student at Columbia University, and they go to Trump Tower to protest it. Will the NYPD finally get to the bottom of it?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Great America Show.
00:00:05.260 It's great to have you with us.
00:00:06.320 Thanks so much for joining us tonight on our live show.
00:00:08.940 We're live on Rumble, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, wherever you guys watch your podcast.
00:00:14.140 In just a few moments, we're going to be joined by a very, very brilliant man.
00:00:16.780 He's a Cornell University law professor.
00:00:18.640 He's the founder of EqualProtection.org, William Jacobson, a brilliant mind.
00:00:23.080 In fact, one of your guys' favorite on this show.
00:00:25.280 We got a lot of great feedback last time we had him on.
00:00:27.660 So we try to bring him back as often as we possibly can.
00:00:31.320 A rough day today in New York.
00:00:33.000 Hamas agitators just not giving up.
00:00:36.020 They don't realize that the days of law and order in this country are over,
00:00:40.140 especially when it comes to New York.
00:00:41.960 The days of harassing people on college campuses are done.
00:00:45.140 But today they went to a new place, Trump Tower.
00:00:48.120 Check it out.
00:00:48.740 We're being told they are now making arrests here.
00:00:51.300 We were bringing this to you live.
00:00:53.440 People have stormed into Trump Tower protesting the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil,
00:00:59.600 the Columbia University graduate student, former graduate student,
00:01:03.040 who has riled up so much of the anti-Semitism that we've seen,
00:01:06.840 not just on Columbia, but other campuses as well.
00:01:09.600 There is a big dispute going on right now between the Trump administration and Democrats
00:01:13.620 and these supporters of Khalil's who say he has been unfairly detained.
00:01:17.820 But what we're hearing from the administration is Khalil has been at the nexus of this anti-Semitism
00:01:26.080 and the violent protests we've seen on some of these college campuses.
00:01:29.700 You can think about the one building they took over at Columbia months ago and detained.
00:01:35.120 They actually held a janitor hostage.
00:01:38.240 We see the arrest now here at Trump Tower.
00:01:40.680 Can we listen to, can we hear what they're chanting?
00:01:42.920 Do we have, we don't, okay, we don't, we don't have the audio,
00:01:45.180 but you can see them getting loud and you can see the police finally moving in.
00:01:48.900 And one of the things I think that we need to note here is you can see,
00:01:52.520 we mentioned before that there were police in the corners.
00:01:56.500 Now we see more police show up, overwhelming force.
00:02:00.220 You folks get the idea.
00:02:01.880 Finally making arrests, though.
00:02:03.100 When we saw this stuff happening months ago under the Biden regime,
00:02:06.040 nobody did anything about it.
00:02:07.740 We sat there and we were supposed to deal with it.
00:02:09.420 It was the same thing that happened during the summer of love.
00:02:11.400 Now, all of a sudden, Eric Adams seems that he wants to get law and order and justice back to his city.
00:02:17.900 Why do we allow this to happen?
00:02:19.700 Now, you hear people on the left saying, well, it's free speech.
00:02:22.300 Well, it's only free speech when it fits your narrative.
00:02:24.680 At what point does it turn into hate speech?
00:02:27.040 You heard for years the Democrats chastise the Republicans for creating some sort of insurrection
00:02:32.620 at the Capitol on January 6th.
00:02:34.780 One event, right, one event that we still don't know everything about.
00:02:38.320 We don't know who were the agitators, who were paid, who wasn't, who came to do harm,
00:02:44.780 who came for freedom, who came to protest an election peacefully and patriotically.
00:02:50.040 We still don't know.
00:02:51.320 But they held it over the Republicans' head.
00:02:53.240 They held thousands of people in jail for years, some with no trial, some overcharged, lives ruined.
00:03:00.620 Yet these folks think that they can come to the country.
00:03:03.160 A lot of them from out of the country think they can come to the country and create havoc here.
00:03:07.700 So this man that they're talking about, which we're going to take up with William Jacobson in just a moment here,
00:03:11.380 is now on the precipice of deportation because he was here on a green card status.
00:03:16.420 Take a listen to Secretary of State Marco Rubio when asked about his legal status here in this country.
00:03:21.840 President Trump appealed to a lot of Americans during his campaign on free speech arguments
00:03:27.760 and not suppressing speech, especially from the government.
00:03:32.720 But your revocation of the green card to many is seen as one of the most anti-speech actions a secretary can take with his powers.
00:03:42.200 How do you respond?
00:03:43.440 This is an important point, and I'm glad you asked this question.
00:03:46.280 When you come to the United States as a visitor, which is what a visa is,
00:03:50.200 which is how this individual entered this country, as a visitor's visa,
00:03:54.060 you are here as a visitor.
00:03:55.800 We can deny you that visa.
00:03:57.860 We can deny you that.
00:03:58.760 If you tell us when you apply,
00:04:00.580 hi, I'm trying to get into the United States on a student visa,
00:04:03.280 I am a big supporter of Hamas, a murderous, barbaric group
00:04:06.780 that kidnaps children, that rapes teenage girls,
00:04:10.180 that takes hostages, that allows them to die in captivity,
00:04:12.840 that returns more bodies than live hostages.
00:04:16.040 If you tell us that you are in favor of a group like this,
00:04:18.700 and if you tell us when you apply for your visa,
00:04:20.540 and by the way, I intend to come to your country as a student
00:04:22.900 and rile up all kinds of anti-Jewish student, anti-Semitic activities.
00:04:27.820 I intend to shut down your universities.
00:04:29.880 If you told us all these things when you applied for a visa,
00:04:32.120 we would deny your visa.
00:04:33.140 I hope we would.
00:04:34.220 If you actually end up doing that,
00:04:36.280 once you're in this country on such a visa,
00:04:38.560 we will revoke it.
00:04:39.840 And if you end up having a green card,
00:04:41.500 not citizenship, but a green card as a result of that visa
00:04:44.280 while you're here and those activities,
00:04:45.840 we're going to kick you out.
00:04:47.240 It's as simple as that.
00:04:48.080 This is not about free speech.
00:04:49.440 This is about people that don't have a right
00:04:50.880 to be in the United States to begin with.
00:04:52.660 No one has a right to a student visa.
00:04:54.560 No one has a right to a green card, by the way.
00:04:56.880 So when you apply for a student visa,
00:04:59.460 or any visa to enter the United States,
00:05:01.100 we have a right to deny you for virtually any reason.
00:05:03.460 But I think being a supporter of Hamas
00:05:05.260 and coming into our universities
00:05:06.920 and turning them upside down
00:05:08.600 and being complicit in what are clearly crimes
00:05:11.220 of vandalization,
00:05:12.620 complicit in shutting down learning institutions.
00:05:15.020 There are kids at these schools
00:05:15.940 that can't go to class.
00:05:17.320 You pay all this money to these high-priced schools
00:05:19.600 that are supposed to be of great esteem,
00:05:21.880 and you can't even go to class.
00:05:23.120 You're afraid to go to class
00:05:24.160 because these lunatics are running around
00:05:25.920 with covers on their face,
00:05:27.300 screaming terrifying things.
00:05:28.720 If you told us that's what you intended to do
00:05:30.400 when you came to America,
00:05:31.240 we would have never let you in.
00:05:33.080 And if you do it once you get in,
00:05:34.820 we're going to revoke it and kick you out.
00:05:36.100 The Marxist Dems are taking issue with Marco Rubio.
00:05:40.200 I don't think he could have said it
00:05:41.280 any more concisely, any more eloquently.
00:05:43.460 I want to bring in our guest today,
00:05:44.440 as promised, Cornell University law professor.
00:05:46.920 He's also the founder
00:05:47.820 and president of EqualProtection.org,
00:05:52.800 Professor William Jacobson.
00:05:53.980 Professor, it's been a while since you last spoke,
00:05:56.320 but we find ourselves in similar circumstances
00:05:59.280 as the last time we spoke.
00:06:02.400 What's your thoughts on this,
00:06:04.240 that now all of a sudden we don't have a right
00:06:06.140 as a country,
00:06:06.960 now it could be open border policies
00:06:09.340 that led us to this,
00:06:10.120 but that we don't have a right as a country
00:06:11.840 to control quality control,
00:06:14.440 I guess you can call it, right?
00:06:15.740 Same thing that every business has,
00:06:17.280 our own country.
00:06:19.260 Well, we're going to have to get serious about this.
00:06:21.240 And this guy in New York City,
00:06:24.020 Columbia University,
00:06:25.140 is a perfect example
00:06:26.880 of why we need to get serious
00:06:29.080 because he has devoted his time here
00:06:34.260 to destroying Columbia University,
00:06:38.200 intimidating other students,
00:06:39.720 depriving Americans of their rights.
00:06:42.080 And the question is,
00:06:42.920 can we get him out of the country?
00:06:44.560 And the answer is yes, we can
00:06:46.120 because he's here initially on a student visa.
00:06:48.820 And then he got a green card.
00:06:50.400 We don't really know
00:06:51.200 exactly what category of green card,
00:06:54.060 but some level of green card.
00:06:55.460 But even with that,
00:06:56.440 he's still a guest in this country.
00:06:57.760 And there are provisions in the law
00:06:59.400 that allow the Secretary of State
00:07:01.660 to remove him
00:07:02.500 if he's deemed a serious threat
00:07:05.240 to our foreign policy.
00:07:06.920 There are also other provisions
00:07:08.440 that if he is part of a group
00:07:11.260 that advocates terrorism
00:07:13.080 and things like that,
00:07:14.600 and the group he reportedly was involved in
00:07:17.840 has endorsed the sort of tactics Hamas used.
00:07:21.580 So there's many grounds to remove him.
00:07:23.760 But my main point is that
00:07:25.900 this is a guy who brought it on himself.
00:07:28.080 He knew he was here on a guest basis.
00:07:30.400 And he nonetheless organized these,
00:07:33.020 not really protests,
00:07:34.520 but building takeovers
00:07:35.840 where the buildings were trashed.
00:07:38.200 Staff was intimidated.
00:07:40.180 Students were harassed.
00:07:42.120 You know, a number of the senators
00:07:44.240 said that when they went to Columbia
00:07:46.040 to meet with students,
00:07:47.180 the students were afraid
00:07:48.360 to walk around campus,
00:07:49.980 the Jewish students with the Jewish star,
00:07:51.640 because of what this group did.
00:07:53.640 So, you know, this is a bad guy
00:07:55.520 who nonetheless will get some level
00:07:57.360 of due process in our immigration system.
00:08:00.280 But we have a right to get rid of him.
00:08:02.520 Right.
00:08:03.000 And at what point do we draw the line?
00:08:04.940 You know, like, I don't know
00:08:05.940 if you heard my monologue,
00:08:06.820 but the left,
00:08:08.180 they constantly want to talk about free.
00:08:09.540 They only want to talk about free speech
00:08:11.060 when it benefits them, right?
00:08:12.360 It's usually the Republicans
00:08:13.280 who are on the side of free speech
00:08:15.000 and law and order
00:08:15.840 and truth, justice in the American way.
00:08:17.720 But at what point does does free speech
00:08:20.340 turn into hate speech?
00:08:22.000 Well, hate speech is not
00:08:23.640 like a really illegal concept.
00:08:25.420 I mean, it's a popular concept.
00:08:27.480 You know, hate speech is not illegal.
00:08:29.440 Yeah.
00:08:29.680 When you're here on a visa
00:08:31.040 and you engage in speech
00:08:33.280 that is supportive of terrorist groups,
00:08:35.580 then you've got a problem.
00:08:38.040 So what the speech he engaged in
00:08:40.840 may be lawful for an American citizen,
00:08:44.180 because in the U.S.,
00:08:45.320 when someone does something,
00:08:46.660 you either prosecute them criminally
00:08:48.900 or you leave them alone.
00:08:50.060 I mean, that's the way
00:08:50.680 the system's supposed to work.
00:08:52.120 But when you're here on a visa,
00:08:53.440 you don't have to actually commit a crime
00:08:55.720 to be deported.
00:08:57.700 So let me ask you,
00:08:58.920 because you hear from two different sides,
00:09:01.780 and I want to get it from you
00:09:02.760 because I trust you probably more than
00:09:04.320 anyone else I'm reading it from.
00:09:07.760 What constitutional rights,
00:09:09.540 because they say in the Constitution,
00:09:11.480 it doesn't say that you're a citizen,
00:09:13.920 that you're afforded to a citizen,
00:09:16.260 they're just afforded to the people.
00:09:19.420 What constitutional rights
00:09:20.820 are green card holders, illegals,
00:09:24.720 anyone who falls under the umbrella
00:09:26.080 of not a citizen or green card,
00:09:27.940 not a U.S.-born citizen in this country?
00:09:30.960 What are their afforded rights
00:09:32.320 under the Constitution?
00:09:34.840 Well, that's not a simple question to answer.
00:09:39.180 You know, I think that people
00:09:41.580 who are here illegally
00:09:42.860 are subject to the immigration laws.
00:09:45.880 And so they have some right to speak,
00:09:49.860 but they do not have right
00:09:51.840 to endorse terrorist groups.
00:09:53.520 If you're here on a visa,
00:09:54.840 they do not have the right to,
00:09:57.020 you know, be part of groups
00:09:59.200 that endorse terrorism.
00:10:01.040 So it's a little bit
00:10:03.120 of a complicated issue.
00:10:04.320 It's not that they don't have
00:10:05.640 any free speech rights,
00:10:07.240 but their free speech rights
00:10:08.880 are limited by the immigration laws.
00:10:12.040 So what if you're a man,
00:10:15.040 a lawyer prosecuting these cases,
00:10:17.160 what can we do to ensure
00:10:18.940 that this ends?
00:10:19.820 Because the taking over
00:10:21.320 of college campus is absurd.
00:10:23.020 The taking over of the president's home
00:10:25.960 away from home in New York City
00:10:27.980 and Trump Tower,
00:10:29.120 at what point do we draw the line
00:10:30.880 and how do we do it
00:10:31.840 to ensure that this doesn't happen again
00:10:33.500 so that we don't have
00:10:34.300 another summer of love
00:10:35.320 like we had with BLM in 2020?
00:10:37.240 Well, the first thing is
00:10:38.840 to actually enforce
00:10:39.820 the criminal laws.
00:10:40.980 I mean, the people
00:10:41.620 who took over Trump Tower,
00:10:43.200 which is a private property,
00:10:44.940 engaged in a crime
00:10:46.280 when they did that.
00:10:47.380 OK, and a bunch of them
00:10:49.700 got arrested,
00:10:50.200 but we know how this goes.
00:10:51.480 We've seen this movement before.
00:10:53.480 They're let go
00:10:54.500 before they even get
00:10:55.840 to the police station
00:10:56.840 where they're given
00:10:57.460 some ridiculous ticket
00:10:58.800 and it gets dropped.
00:11:00.520 You know, that's the problem
00:11:01.620 is that if some of these people
00:11:03.900 who are engaging
00:11:04.680 in this lawless behavior
00:11:06.040 actually were prosecuted,
00:11:08.740 that would send a message
00:11:09.960 to the rest of society
00:11:11.340 that you can't do that.
00:11:12.980 OK, that you can protest,
00:11:14.400 but you can't invade
00:11:15.140 somebody's home.
00:11:15.800 You can't invade
00:11:16.440 and take over private property.
00:11:18.280 Right.
00:11:18.480 You know, and so that's,
00:11:20.200 I think, what we need.
00:11:20.860 We need some law enforcement,
00:11:22.200 but we're not going to get it
00:11:23.220 in New York City.
00:11:23.900 That's for sure.
00:11:25.400 What do you think
00:11:25.760 ultimately happens
00:11:26.460 to this guy, Mahmoud?
00:11:28.520 Do you think there's grounds
00:11:29.700 to deport him
00:11:30.540 and making examples
00:11:32.820 to let these people know
00:11:33.880 that you're here
00:11:34.700 as a visitor?
00:11:36.180 You're not here
00:11:37.120 because, you know what,
00:11:38.740 William, Professor,
00:11:40.100 if I go over to Europe,
00:11:41.380 if I go over to any other country
00:11:42.780 and I do something like that,
00:11:44.040 I'm going to end up
00:11:44.600 my ass is going to be in jail
00:11:45.800 and you're not afforded a lawyer.
00:11:47.720 You're not afforded
00:11:48.300 any of that free stuff.
00:11:49.420 People do it because they think
00:11:50.400 you get away with here in America
00:11:51.520 because we give you a lawyer
00:11:52.560 and we afford you
00:11:53.600 these beautiful prisons.
00:11:55.160 By beautiful, I mean beautiful
00:11:56.640 compared to any other prison
00:11:58.160 around the world you go to.
00:11:59.880 Not that I've seen them,
00:12:00.980 but I've seen pictures.
00:12:03.000 How do we put an end to it
00:12:05.080 so that it stops?
00:12:08.860 Yeah, well, I think
00:12:09.580 we have to toughen the border.
00:12:11.360 I mean, part of that's being done,
00:12:13.060 you know, the physical crossing
00:12:15.320 of the border,
00:12:16.400 but he didn't, as far as I know,
00:12:18.620 physically cross the Mexican
00:12:20.260 or Canadian borders illegally.
00:12:22.560 He came here legally,
00:12:24.480 but subject to conditions.
00:12:26.420 Now, one of the things
00:12:27.260 I would not be surprised,
00:12:29.040 I have no information
00:12:29.900 that it will happen,
00:12:30.880 but it would be very common,
00:12:32.380 is he would have had to fill out
00:12:33.420 a whole bunch of forms
00:12:34.420 and so would his wife
00:12:35.920 in order to get him
00:12:36.720 that green card.
00:12:37.860 And I presume
00:12:39.000 the government
00:12:40.020 is scrutinizing those forms
00:12:41.760 to see if there were any lies
00:12:43.660 on those forms.
00:12:45.280 I'm not so sure
00:12:46.220 about the green card form,
00:12:47.980 but I do know,
00:12:48.560 because that would have probably
00:12:49.420 been filled out by his wife,
00:12:50.680 but I do know
00:12:51.600 that the visa forms
00:12:52.880 typically will ask you,
00:12:54.780 you know,
00:12:55.280 whether you've supported
00:12:56.220 a terrorist group
00:12:57.260 and things like that.
00:12:58.760 And if he lied
00:12:59.700 on any of those,
00:13:00.700 that in and of itself
00:13:01.760 could be ground
00:13:02.560 to revoke his presence
00:13:04.260 in the country.
00:13:04.820 I'm not saying he did,
00:13:06.080 but I'm saying
00:13:06.440 that's the sort of thing.
00:13:07.760 Also, a lot of people
00:13:08.820 are making a big deal
00:13:09.860 saying,
00:13:11.040 oh, well,
00:13:11.500 the provision cited
00:13:12.940 in the appearance notice
00:13:14.320 that DHS gave him
00:13:16.160 only cites
00:13:17.140 the Secretary of State's
00:13:18.620 power to remove
00:13:19.840 somebody from the country
00:13:21.000 if there is a,
00:13:22.480 you know,
00:13:22.860 reasonably strong argument
00:13:24.660 would harm foreign policy.
00:13:26.620 OK, that's on that form.
00:13:28.300 That doesn't mean
00:13:28.800 they're not going to bring
00:13:29.440 more grounds against him.
00:13:30.840 Right.
00:13:31.060 OK, that's, you know,
00:13:32.260 they put enough
00:13:33.040 on that form
00:13:33.800 to justify
00:13:34.560 bringing him
00:13:35.640 into detention.
00:13:37.060 But my guess
00:13:38.320 is they have
00:13:38.980 a whole lot
00:13:39.820 of more information
00:13:41.040 about him
00:13:41.580 and at the appropriate time
00:13:43.080 they'll back
00:13:43.600 that truck up
00:13:44.460 to the immigration court
00:13:46.420 and dump all that evidence
00:13:47.920 about what he's been up to.
00:13:49.800 And I'm guessing
00:13:50.700 that he's been up to
00:13:52.020 a lot worse
00:13:52.700 than we know about.
00:13:53.800 Yeah, you're absolutely right.
00:13:55.060 I want to take
00:13:55.560 a quick break here.
00:13:56.620 And when we return,
00:13:57.320 I want to take up
00:13:57.920 Columbia University,
00:13:58.740 who's been at the heart
00:13:59.980 of this whole entire thing,
00:14:01.240 is now refusing
00:14:02.120 to help the Department
00:14:03.180 of Homeland Security
00:14:03.860 identify these Hamas
00:14:05.600 sympathizers
00:14:06.380 who support terrorism
00:14:08.060 and terrorizing
00:14:09.260 U.S. citizens
00:14:10.900 here in America.
00:14:11.880 I also want to take up
00:14:13.100 President Trump
00:14:13.700 doing something
00:14:14.380 that should have been
00:14:14.880 done a long time ago,
00:14:16.240 cutting federal funding
00:14:17.280 to these universities
00:14:18.120 who allow this stuff
00:14:19.100 to happen
00:14:19.840 because it's unjust
00:14:20.820 and it's unallowed
00:14:21.800 and it's un-American.
00:14:22.920 We're coming right back
00:14:24.320 with Professor William Jacobson.
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00:15:30.120 Folks,
00:15:30.700 we're back with
00:15:31.140 Cornell University Law
00:15:32.080 Professor William Jacobson.
00:15:33.280 He's also
00:15:33.720 the founder
00:15:34.880 of EqualRightsProtection.org.
00:15:36.780 We're going to talk
00:15:37.640 about his work
00:15:38.180 in just a few moments.
00:15:39.460 Before we get to that,
00:15:40.420 I want to turn
00:15:41.160 to Columbia University
00:15:43.300 who's been at the heart
00:15:44.220 of this issue,
00:15:45.140 the heart of this fellow
00:15:46.440 Mahmoud
00:15:46.880 and all the problems
00:15:47.820 he's caused.
00:15:49.660 Caroline Levitt
00:15:50.520 said the Department
00:15:51.100 of Homeland Security
00:15:51.800 is using intelligence
00:15:53.040 to identify individuals
00:15:54.540 on our college campuses
00:15:55.520 who have engaged
00:15:56.200 in such behavior
00:15:56.840 and activity,
00:15:57.540 but Columbia University
00:15:59.580 won't identify
00:16:00.740 who did it.
00:16:02.560 Now,
00:16:03.420 it's mind-blowing to me
00:16:04.660 because they just took
00:16:05.620 over their university.
00:16:06.800 They held their janitor hostage.
00:16:09.560 They destroyed their campus
00:16:11.140 that they go to school at
00:16:12.280 and now the university
00:16:13.700 is protecting them.
00:16:15.120 What's your thoughts?
00:16:17.320 Well,
00:16:18.040 you know,
00:16:18.540 there's two issues there.
00:16:20.100 One,
00:16:20.440 are they impeding
00:16:21.400 immigration enforcement?
00:16:23.480 And the standard
00:16:24.380 that colleges have done
00:16:25.920 and cities have done
00:16:26.740 is say,
00:16:27.120 we're just not going
00:16:27.700 to do anything.
00:16:28.820 You know,
00:16:28.980 we have no affirmative duty
00:16:30.480 to actually take action
00:16:32.220 for you.
00:16:32.920 So they're probably
00:16:34.240 safe there
00:16:34.940 from the criminal laws
00:16:36.120 as opposed to
00:16:37.740 actively interfering
00:16:39.140 in an investigation.
00:16:41.140 But
00:16:41.620 they depend
00:16:43.260 on federal funding.
00:16:45.080 And
00:16:45.520 I don't know
00:16:46.920 if there's a provision
00:16:47.680 in the federal funding
00:16:48.600 that says you must cooperate,
00:16:50.020 but that's something
00:16:50.540 to be looked at.
00:16:51.480 So they're putting
00:16:52.140 their federal funding
00:16:53.040 at risk.
00:16:54.320 Columbia just lost
00:16:55.160 $400 million
00:16:56.000 in grants
00:16:57.080 from the U.S. government.
00:16:58.800 I believe,
00:16:59.660 I might be wrong
00:17:00.480 on this number,
00:17:00.960 I saw someplace
00:17:01.820 they get like
00:17:02.540 $5 billion a year
00:17:03.980 or some crazy number.
00:17:05.600 Maybe it's $2 billion
00:17:06.520 or whatever,
00:17:07.180 but a very big number.
00:17:10.440 You know,
00:17:10.800 will the government
00:17:11.580 come in and say,
00:17:12.420 okay,
00:17:12.580 you're not going to
00:17:13.720 give us that information?
00:17:15.360 We're not going
00:17:15.900 to give you money.
00:17:17.000 Yeah.
00:17:17.240 Okay.
00:17:17.760 And these schools
00:17:19.220 are heavily dependent
00:17:20.480 on federal funding
00:17:21.600 to a greater extent
00:17:22.980 than anybody realizes.
00:17:25.040 Could Columbia,
00:17:26.600 in order to not reveal
00:17:28.640 the names
00:17:29.480 of these students,
00:17:30.460 will they take
00:17:31.660 a $2,
00:17:32.540 $3,
00:17:32.960 $4 billion hit?
00:17:34.820 There was a case
00:17:35.800 a couple of decades ago
00:17:38.020 involving what's called
00:17:38.940 the Solomon Amendment.
00:17:40.600 Solomon Amendment
00:17:41.480 said that
00:17:42.580 if a school
00:17:43.840 refuses
00:17:44.820 to allow
00:17:45.800 military recruiters
00:17:47.580 on the same basis
00:17:49.720 they allow
00:17:50.260 other recruiters,
00:17:51.620 then you lose
00:17:52.680 your federal funding.
00:17:54.100 Harvard Law School
00:17:55.100 refused to allow
00:17:56.140 the JAG Corps
00:17:57.000 to interview
00:17:58.460 because of the
00:17:59.420 don't ask,
00:18:00.040 don't tell policy.
00:18:01.440 And it went to
00:18:01.800 the Supreme Court
00:18:02.420 and the Supreme Court
00:18:03.000 said, hey,
00:18:03.380 you take federal money,
00:18:04.840 you take it on condition.
00:18:06.740 And when faced
00:18:07.660 with the choice
00:18:08.320 of losing $400 million
00:18:09.740 in federal funding,
00:18:11.140 this is like 20 years ago,
00:18:12.500 or giving up
00:18:13.480 on the don't ask,
00:18:14.560 don't tell,
00:18:15.200 Harvard gave in.
00:18:15.880 Yeah,
00:18:17.320 the thing that's
00:18:18.400 also mind-blowing to me
00:18:19.280 is why we're doing this.
00:18:20.380 Why are we paying?
00:18:21.060 By the way,
00:18:21.380 the other schools
00:18:21.900 that the Trump Justice Department
00:18:23.460 are investigating
00:18:24.520 is George Washington
00:18:25.320 University in D.C.,
00:18:26.700 Harvard University,
00:18:27.740 John Hopkins University,
00:18:28.840 NYU,
00:18:29.600 Northwestern,
00:18:30.880 University of California,
00:18:31.960 Los Angeles,
00:18:33.140 the University of California,
00:18:34.180 Berkeley,
00:18:34.560 the University of Minnesota,
00:18:35.560 and the University
00:18:36.000 of Southern California.
00:18:37.400 I think there's far more.
00:18:38.300 Johns Hopkins,
00:18:39.200 it was reported
00:18:39.880 in the Wall Street Journal
00:18:40.860 this morning,
00:18:42.040 just got $800 million
00:18:43.580 in funding pulled from them.
00:18:45.040 So why are we funding,
00:18:46.860 I understand the whole government,
00:18:48.220 why are we funding,
00:18:50.100 this is from a whole,
00:18:50.940 not even an immigration aspect,
00:18:52.660 but why are we funding schools
00:18:54.240 to send foreigners
00:18:55.480 who come here
00:18:56.380 and get grants
00:18:57.040 against our own
00:18:58.440 American children
00:18:59.820 who we're sending to school
00:19:00.820 whose parents
00:19:01.640 are breaking their backs
00:19:02.400 to pay for their kids,
00:19:03.500 yet we're paying for foreigners
00:19:04.760 to come to school
00:19:05.460 here in America?
00:19:06.260 Am I right or wrong about that?
00:19:07.680 Well, I don't know
00:19:08.500 that we're paying
00:19:09.480 for them to come here.
00:19:11.060 I mean,
00:19:11.280 a lot of the foreigners
00:19:12.320 and the reason
00:19:12.940 they're so attractive
00:19:13.780 to the schools
00:19:14.660 is that a lot of them
00:19:16.180 pay full freight, okay?
00:19:18.000 They either get money
00:19:19.120 from their government abroad
00:19:20.420 or they get from families
00:19:22.180 and they come here
00:19:23.400 and they pay the full tuition.
00:19:24.720 They don't look for financial aid
00:19:26.140 and they don't get it.
00:19:27.040 So I don't know
00:19:27.600 that foreigners
00:19:28.200 are getting aid
00:19:29.100 from our government
00:19:30.000 as part of these grants,
00:19:31.360 but I think
00:19:31.980 the bigger question
00:19:32.720 is the whole grant system
00:19:34.320 with regard to universities
00:19:35.500 is a good example
00:19:36.820 of something
00:19:37.560 that started off
00:19:38.600 as a good thing
00:19:39.540 but has now grown so much
00:19:42.040 that it's become preposterous
00:19:43.720 in many cases.
00:19:44.900 Yes, we do want
00:19:46.140 to fund research.
00:19:47.540 We do want to fund
00:19:48.420 all of that.
00:19:49.360 But now you've got grants
00:19:50.800 in the hundreds of millions,
00:19:52.260 maybe even billions,
00:19:53.580 going to crazy stuff, okay?
00:19:55.900 All the things
00:19:56.760 that have been revealed
00:19:57.500 about USAID
00:19:58.900 going to non-government,
00:20:00.720 quote unquote,
00:20:01.340 non-governmental organizations
00:20:02.820 to fund very bizarre stuff.
00:20:04.680 And the same thing
00:20:05.380 happens on campuses.
00:20:06.820 National Endowment
00:20:07.640 for the Arts,
00:20:08.520 other things
00:20:10.140 are funding
00:20:10.960 DEI activities.
00:20:14.340 And the question is
00:20:14.860 this started off
00:20:15.840 as a good thing
00:20:16.600 and you know what?
00:20:17.580 Now the legitimate researchers
00:20:19.180 are going to suffer
00:20:20.100 because when the money
00:20:21.580 gets pulled,
00:20:22.100 it gets pulled
00:20:22.620 across the board.
00:20:24.280 Yeah, by paying
00:20:25.460 these kids to come here,
00:20:26.380 what I meant by that
00:20:27.140 is they're afforded
00:20:28.000 where these grants go.
00:20:29.460 These grants go
00:20:30.020 to fix buildings,
00:20:31.260 they go to advanced food,
00:20:32.500 they go to do
00:20:33.320 all types of different things
00:20:34.300 across campuses
00:20:35.000 and we're competing
00:20:35.660 against ourselves.
00:20:36.820 Do you think
00:20:37.200 the pulling
00:20:37.620 of this federal money
00:20:38.580 and the crackdown
00:20:39.480 on green cards
00:20:40.820 and visas
00:20:41.360 will start to maybe
00:20:42.840 slow down
00:20:43.880 the inflow
00:20:45.780 of foreigners
00:20:46.580 in our schooling system?
00:20:47.940 I mean,
00:20:48.600 we have a problem
00:20:49.540 putting Americans
00:20:50.860 in jobs as it is,
00:20:52.340 yet we're bringing
00:20:53.020 massive amounts
00:20:54.140 of people
00:20:54.520 from other countries
00:20:55.460 to come here
00:20:56.120 and compete
00:20:56.540 against our American
00:20:57.680 children who go
00:20:58.860 to schools.
00:21:00.840 You know,
00:21:01.420 it's a massive disadvantage.
00:21:02.880 Do you see that changing?
00:21:04.620 Well,
00:21:04.820 I think there will
00:21:05.600 be an adjustment.
00:21:06.520 I think there will
00:21:07.080 be an adjustment
00:21:07.800 and, you know,
00:21:09.440 it's true.
00:21:10.620 Most of the foreign
00:21:11.880 students who come here
00:21:13.140 come here for good reasons,
00:21:14.860 okay?
00:21:15.520 But I read a statistic,
00:21:17.580 I believe it's to be true,
00:21:18.880 that Colombia
00:21:19.600 is more than half
00:21:20.720 foreign students.
00:21:22.260 When you bring in
00:21:23.360 that inflow
00:21:24.820 of foreign students,
00:21:26.400 particularly from countries,
00:21:28.120 you know,
00:21:28.300 this guy's an Algerian citizen
00:21:29.800 who was born in Syria
00:21:31.700 and you don't vet them
00:21:33.480 at all,
00:21:34.340 you're going to have problems.
00:21:35.500 We've seen this movie
00:21:36.520 before,
00:21:37.360 okay?
00:21:37.860 People from certain
00:21:38.840 countries need
00:21:40.120 to be vetted
00:21:40.660 to make sure
00:21:41.380 they don't have
00:21:41.900 terrorist ties
00:21:42.820 and things like that.
00:21:43.740 That's not a new concept.
00:21:45.220 That's a concept
00:21:45.800 that's been around
00:21:46.460 for a very long time.
00:21:47.980 It's why with some countries,
00:21:49.640 you can basically
00:21:50.540 come here
00:21:51.260 as a visitor
00:21:51.900 with no visa
00:21:52.940 and other countries
00:21:54.280 you require
00:21:54.920 more stringent,
00:21:56.140 you know,
00:21:56.600 you know,
00:21:57.340 review.
00:21:58.120 And I think,
00:21:58.780 I think there will be
00:21:59.900 a shift
00:22:00.640 and the universities
00:22:02.020 are going to really
00:22:03.000 have to rearrange
00:22:03.960 their priorities.
00:22:05.780 You know,
00:22:06.080 if you want to continue
00:22:07.180 the medical research
00:22:08.280 and the bio research
00:22:09.400 and all that
00:22:10.060 and your federal funding
00:22:11.560 is down,
00:22:11.920 maybe you get rid
00:22:12.600 of the gender studies
00:22:13.500 department
00:22:13.980 or gender study scholarships,
00:22:16.220 stuff that really
00:22:16.860 doesn't contribute
00:22:17.620 anything to anything.
00:22:19.160 So there's going to be,
00:22:20.620 schools are going to have
00:22:21.200 to make some choices
00:22:22.000 because they're not going
00:22:22.860 to have the money
00:22:23.740 they used to have.
00:22:25.340 Now,
00:22:25.440 what about the teachers
00:22:26.320 and the professors
00:22:27.000 who are in these universities
00:22:27.900 because this is something
00:22:28.660 you'd be privy to?
00:22:29.840 It seems like
00:22:30.540 as years have gone on,
00:22:31.740 they're completely radicalized.
00:22:33.580 These people cave
00:22:34.380 to the nonsense
00:22:35.420 and it's,
00:22:36.100 you know,
00:22:36.200 the crazy part is
00:22:37.040 it's even some
00:22:37.700 of these Jewish professors
00:22:38.740 who are like on board
00:22:40.480 with these Hamas terrorists.
00:22:41.960 Like,
00:22:42.380 where are they recruiting
00:22:43.220 them from now
00:22:44.040 versus when you
00:22:45.260 entered the law school
00:22:47.320 education system?
00:22:49.440 You know,
00:22:49.820 I've been in,
00:22:50.460 I was in private law practice
00:22:51.900 for 22 years
00:22:53.040 before joining Cornell
00:22:54.340 17 or so years ago.
00:22:56.680 Time flies.
00:22:58.120 Let's say 17 years.
00:22:59.760 Could be 18,
00:23:00.580 could be 16.
00:23:01.260 I don't know.
00:23:02.060 Or 20.
00:23:02.620 But a long time ago.
00:23:03.780 But even then,
00:23:04.680 I was totally non-political.
00:23:06.320 I never would have been hired
00:23:07.980 had I been out
00:23:09.280 as a conservative.
00:23:10.780 So,
00:23:11.300 the reality is
00:23:12.400 probably going back
00:23:14.200 to the early 90s,
00:23:16.540 maybe a little earlier,
00:23:17.660 some people would say,
00:23:18.960 it's been exceedingly difficult
00:23:20.420 to get hired
00:23:21.380 in higher ed
00:23:22.220 as a conservative.
00:23:23.680 Not impossible,
00:23:25.440 but difficult.
00:23:26.600 And the higher ranked school
00:23:29.040 you go to,
00:23:29.820 the more difficult it is.
00:23:31.780 And so,
00:23:32.180 what you have is
00:23:32.800 the people who are
00:23:34.500 kind of mainstream
00:23:35.460 are aging out.
00:23:37.640 Okay?
00:23:38.060 You know,
00:23:38.340 I'm 65
00:23:39.080 of the quote-unquote
00:23:41.120 centrist conservative
00:23:43.380 professors on campus.
00:23:44.700 I'm probably the youngest.
00:23:46.260 Okay?
00:23:47.040 If you,
00:23:47.820 and there was a study
00:23:48.780 three years ago,
00:23:50.740 I think it was,
00:23:51.420 of how professors
00:23:53.380 identify themselves
00:23:54.820 and liberal
00:23:55.960 versus conservative.
00:23:57.480 And if you go back
00:23:58.280 20 years,
00:23:59.160 it was 60-40
00:24:00.120 liberal to conservative,
00:24:01.460 which means
00:24:02.200 it was balanced
00:24:03.040 but leaned left.
00:24:04.480 It's,
00:24:04.740 oh,
00:24:04.820 academia's always leaned left.
00:24:06.600 Now,
00:24:07.060 it's something like
00:24:07.780 28 to 1,
00:24:08.960 liberal to conservative.
00:24:10.380 And if you look
00:24:11.260 at the youngest cohort,
00:24:13.100 the ones who've been
00:24:13.760 10 years or fewer
00:24:15.200 in academia,
00:24:17.040 it's 40 to 1.
00:24:18.460 It's almost impossible
00:24:20.000 to be hired
00:24:20.840 as a conservative.
00:24:22.040 Not impossible,
00:24:22.820 but almost impossible.
00:24:24.460 You know,
00:24:25.040 Lou,
00:24:25.460 the great Lou Dobbs
00:24:26.420 used to try to get me
00:24:27.320 all the time.
00:24:28.020 From the day I started
00:24:28.740 working for him,
00:24:29.700 maybe after the first week,
00:24:30.700 he used to beg me,
00:24:31.380 please go back to school.
00:24:32.200 Please go back to school.
00:24:33.040 Become a lawyer.
00:24:33.720 Please become a lawyer.
00:24:34.900 Please become,
00:24:35.340 and I'd say to him,
00:24:36.140 I'd say,
00:24:36.460 Lou,
00:24:36.660 you know,
00:24:36.880 the only way I'd go back
00:24:37.660 to law school
00:24:38.100 is if I went to a top 10 school.
00:24:39.780 And I said,
00:24:40.380 even then,
00:24:40.860 I'd have a very tough time
00:24:42.140 and not with the schoolwork,
00:24:43.160 but I'd have a tough time
00:24:44.220 dealing with idiot professors,
00:24:46.240 people who are trying
00:24:47.140 to brainwash me,
00:24:47.920 people who are trying
00:24:48.520 to indoctrinate me,
00:24:49.940 I wouldn't put up with it.
00:24:51.120 I simply wouldn't
00:24:51.940 put up with it.
00:24:52.940 What is it like
00:24:53.720 for the students?
00:24:54.500 I mean,
00:24:54.720 do you bring politics
00:24:56.340 into the classroom?
00:24:57.660 What is it like
00:24:58.160 for you knowing
00:24:59.020 that 90,
00:25:00.400 probably 99%
00:25:01.340 of your students
00:25:02.160 are Marxist leftists?
00:25:04.500 Well,
00:25:04.660 I don't think
00:25:05.200 that that might be true
00:25:07.020 in some places.
00:25:07.680 Not my students.
00:25:08.780 I don't talk politics
00:25:09.980 with them.
00:25:11.160 I teach investment law.
00:25:12.780 I stay away
00:25:13.880 from politics.
00:25:14.620 I don't think it's fair
00:25:15.580 when professors do that.
00:25:16.820 They love to talk
00:25:18.240 about power imbalances
00:25:19.720 on campuses.
00:25:21.200 Well,
00:25:21.400 it's a power imbalance
00:25:22.480 between a professor
00:25:23.380 and a student.
00:25:24.140 I get to grade them.
00:25:25.380 They don't get to grade me.
00:25:26.940 I think it's
00:25:27.780 almost bullying
00:25:29.380 to bring
00:25:30.040 when a professor
00:25:30.960 brings politics
00:25:32.740 into the classroom.
00:25:33.720 So I don't do it at all.
00:25:35.500 My students,
00:25:36.640 I don't know
00:25:37.380 what most of them think,
00:25:38.840 but I'm in a law school
00:25:40.440 that's,
00:25:40.980 I would say,
00:25:42.340 overall,
00:25:42.840 a fairly moderate law school.
00:25:44.900 There are other law schools
00:25:45.860 that are much more radicalized.
00:25:48.500 My students
00:25:49.120 want to graduate
00:25:50.420 for the most part,
00:25:52.020 want to get a job
00:25:54.140 at a big law firm
00:25:55.440 making big money, right?
00:25:57.140 You know,
00:25:57.520 the reality is
00:25:58.460 that their first year
00:25:59.340 out of law school,
00:26:00.060 they're making more than I am
00:26:01.220 because they go to
00:26:01.920 some big New York law firm
00:26:03.260 that's paying
00:26:04.060 first year associates
00:26:05.240 $250,000 a year
00:26:06.800 or something like that.
00:26:08.120 They're very career
00:26:09.340 and professional oriented,
00:26:11.140 but I keep it out.
00:26:12.700 I have heard other things,
00:26:14.160 the undergrad level
00:26:15.760 at Cornell
00:26:16.600 is much more political
00:26:18.340 as well as some
00:26:19.880 of the other
00:26:20.340 graduate departments.
00:26:21.980 But, you know,
00:26:22.800 it's a problem
00:26:23.680 because a lot of students,
00:26:26.640 even in my moderate law school,
00:26:28.680 have confided in me
00:26:30.060 over the years.
00:26:30.580 They're just afraid
00:26:31.260 to talk up
00:26:32.100 and say anything
00:26:32.840 that might be deemed
00:26:34.180 not liberal.
00:26:35.000 I won't even say conservative,
00:26:36.420 but not left wing.
00:26:37.860 And they feel
00:26:38.700 that level of intimidation.
00:26:40.540 And so it's a real problem.
00:26:42.760 And I think professors
00:26:45.320 have done themselves
00:26:46.180 a lot of harm
00:26:47.060 by trying to force
00:26:48.740 their views onto students.
00:26:51.200 Yeah, you know,
00:26:51.760 you've got me sold.
00:26:52.600 I don't think I'll ever
00:26:53.200 make it to law school.
00:26:54.280 I just, to be honest with you,
00:26:55.780 I wouldn't be able
00:26:56.260 to sit there, honestly,
00:26:57.460 and let somebody sit there
00:26:59.140 and be maniacal
00:27:00.760 and be deceptive.
00:27:02.020 When I was in college,
00:27:02.940 it was the 2016, 2015 era
00:27:04.760 was when President Trump
00:27:05.700 was running for office.
00:27:06.980 And I walked around
00:27:07.740 with my Trump hat on
00:27:08.580 because I didn't care.
00:27:09.140 And now it's like
00:27:10.020 you'll get egged,
00:27:11.080 you'll be destroyed.
00:27:12.020 I mean, look what they're doing
00:27:12.740 to Elon Musk
00:27:13.300 and his car dealerships
00:27:14.180 and his cars
00:27:14.700 and anyone who owns them.
00:27:15.880 The way I see it,
00:27:17.120 and tell me if I'm wrong on this,
00:27:19.100 how it was when you were,
00:27:20.500 and you just almost
00:27:21.500 proved my point,
00:27:22.260 how it was when you
00:27:23.040 became a professor
00:27:23.880 was you worked
00:27:25.000 in the private sector
00:27:25.960 and it was the same thing.
00:27:27.560 I know this from my father
00:27:28.620 who was in finance
00:27:29.340 his whole life.
00:27:29.860 You worked in private sector
00:27:30.900 as a high level person,
00:27:33.080 law firm, bank,
00:27:34.160 whatever it was.
00:27:35.220 You retired
00:27:36.120 and then you taught
00:27:37.300 to give back
00:27:38.020 to the students
00:27:38.740 you taught
00:27:39.480 to give back
00:27:40.040 to society.
00:27:41.020 The way I see it now
00:27:42.100 is people are
00:27:42.880 coming out of school
00:27:43.900 to then go back
00:27:44.900 into academia
00:27:45.700 right away
00:27:46.260 to become teachers.
00:27:47.660 Do you see
00:27:48.260 a similar
00:27:49.080 streamline?
00:27:51.520 Yeah, I think people
00:27:52.280 should live a little bit
00:27:53.280 in the real world.
00:27:54.400 I think people should,
00:27:55.400 you know,
00:27:55.640 for 22 years,
00:27:57.180 I mean,
00:27:57.480 not my earliest years,
00:27:58.840 but for most of my career,
00:28:00.160 I had to meet a payroll.
00:28:01.660 Okay.
00:28:01.940 I was the boss.
00:28:03.260 Okay.
00:28:03.460 I was the business owner
00:28:04.400 and I was the last one
00:28:06.220 to get paid.
00:28:07.020 Okay.
00:28:07.800 The IRS got paid.
00:28:09.280 The employees got paid first.
00:28:11.100 The IRS got paid second.
00:28:12.760 The landlord got paid third.
00:28:14.560 And only when we'd gone
00:28:15.600 through all of those things,
00:28:16.860 whatever was left
00:28:17.860 was for me.
00:28:18.920 And if you haven't lived that
00:28:20.140 and you don't understand
00:28:21.100 those economics,
00:28:22.560 you know,
00:28:23.080 you have this dream reality
00:28:24.740 that money just grows
00:28:25.860 on trees
00:28:26.460 and we can get
00:28:27.740 whatever we want
00:28:28.660 as long as the government
00:28:29.760 just pays for it
00:28:30.680 and it's cost free.
00:28:31.580 And if you've lived
00:28:32.580 in the real world.
00:28:33.280 So I think,
00:28:33.980 you know,
00:28:34.600 schools would do very well
00:28:36.160 to bring in
00:28:38.760 as part of their hiring process,
00:28:40.780 people who have done
00:28:42.940 something else
00:28:44.120 other than study.
00:28:46.680 Yeah.
00:28:46.940 It does good for everybody.
00:28:48.180 Like you said,
00:28:48.800 everyone should experience.
00:28:49.580 It's the same thing
00:28:50.340 with politicians.
00:28:51.100 There's people
00:28:51.720 who've only had political jobs.
00:28:53.800 These people have never
00:28:54.420 had a real job in their life.
00:28:55.480 Not that they're making
00:28:56.160 a ton of money,
00:28:56.980 but they get all this influence
00:28:58.320 and they come out
00:28:59.000 and they make even more money
00:29:00.140 and they trade stock
00:29:01.540 and all that good stuff.
00:29:02.840 And it's literally like
00:29:03.940 you've never lived
00:29:04.800 in the real world.
00:29:05.480 You've never faced
00:29:06.080 a real world society
00:29:07.440 or anything like that.
00:29:08.620 I want to take
00:29:09.200 a quick break here.
00:29:09.920 By the way,
00:29:10.220 we have a chat.
00:29:11.220 Someone said,
00:29:11.860 I saw a sticker on a Tesla.
00:29:13.420 Quote,
00:29:13.700 I bought this car
00:29:14.400 before Elon went insane.
00:29:15.780 Imagine that.
00:29:16.700 World's smartest man,
00:29:17.660 in my opinion,
00:29:18.200 the world's richest man.
00:29:19.200 That's not my opinion.
00:29:20.060 That's fact.
00:29:21.280 And he's being tortured.
00:29:22.560 When we come back,
00:29:23.220 I want to take up
00:29:24.020 your lawsuit
00:29:24.680 against the university
00:29:26.080 in Michigan.
00:29:26.780 I also want to take up
00:29:27.520 something we spoke
00:29:28.260 about last time.
00:29:29.520 And I think I had voiced
00:29:30.340 my concerns to you
00:29:31.220 about this very issue,
00:29:33.080 birthright citizenship.
00:29:34.360 I want to take that up
00:29:35.240 on the other side
00:29:35.660 of this quick break.
00:29:36.240 We're coming right back
00:29:37.120 with Professor William Jacobson.
00:29:38.660 Folks, stay with us.
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00:30:45.700 I want to turn to,
00:30:47.220 before we get to
00:30:48.120 birthright citizenship
00:30:49.000 and these lawless judges
00:30:50.880 who somehow think
00:30:51.880 that they're judge,
00:30:53.120 jury,
00:30:53.340 and verdict.
00:30:53.680 Your lawsuit
00:30:55.360 against a university
00:30:56.920 in Michigan
00:30:57.980 and their scholarship program,
00:31:00.320 of course,
00:31:00.940 tailoring to anybody
00:31:01.980 but the normal person.
00:31:04.480 Yeah,
00:31:05.060 we just filed
00:31:06.400 the civil rights complaint
00:31:07.700 against Calvin University
00:31:10.000 in Michigan
00:31:10.860 because we found
00:31:12.840 there 65
00:31:14.160 discriminatory scholarships.
00:31:17.280 At the Equal Protection Project,
00:31:19.500 which is equalprotect.org,
00:31:21.280 we have filed
00:31:22.280 against over 60 colleges
00:31:24.400 and universities,
00:31:25.300 but we've never found
00:31:26.260 65 in one place.
00:31:28.400 And some of these
00:31:29.140 are really crazy scholarships.
00:31:31.880 Like, you know,
00:31:32.820 they will flip years.
00:31:34.020 One year,
00:31:34.500 it'll be a white person.
00:31:35.540 Next year,
00:31:35.920 it'll be a black person.
00:31:37.080 Or there's one scholarship
00:31:38.660 for, you know,
00:31:41.380 transracial adoptees.
00:31:44.860 Okay?
00:31:45.320 So you can only apply
00:31:46.580 if you are an adopted person,
00:31:48.980 which we, of course,
00:31:49.920 love that.
00:31:50.820 And you are transracial,
00:31:52.720 whatever that means.
00:31:53.560 I guess they meant biracial.
00:31:55.360 And there's very bizarre,
00:31:57.900 you know,
00:32:00.180 very bizarre configurations
00:32:03.480 that we don't see.
00:32:04.660 Most of what we see
00:32:05.540 in most schools
00:32:06.360 is scholarships
00:32:07.540 or programs
00:32:08.320 only open to,
00:32:09.480 quote, unquote,
00:32:09.980 BIPOC students.
00:32:11.600 Okay?
00:32:11.840 That's a well-known term,
00:32:13.080 black, indigenous,
00:32:13.960 people of color.
00:32:15.240 And we,
00:32:15.980 and those are unlawful.
00:32:16.860 But we also,
00:32:19.180 in this one,
00:32:20.380 very specific,
00:32:21.800 very bizarre.
00:32:23.260 And Calvin is a small school.
00:32:25.320 I think it's only
00:32:25.840 three or 4,000 students.
00:32:27.940 It's a Christian school
00:32:29.840 related to one
00:32:31.580 of the Christian denominations.
00:32:33.040 I'm not sure which one.
00:32:34.580 And it was just very strange.
00:32:36.100 So we filed that last night
00:32:37.820 with the Office for Civil Rights
00:32:39.620 of Department of Education,
00:32:41.820 which has been severely cut back.
00:32:44.880 But we're really hoping
00:32:46.180 that they will
00:32:47.440 take action on this.
00:32:49.280 We just got three letters
00:32:50.500 in today on other cases of ours
00:32:52.300 that they're opening them
00:32:53.220 for investigation.
00:32:54.420 So they're actually
00:32:54.980 doing stuff there.
00:32:55.960 They've got half the staff,
00:32:57.320 but they're doing more stuff
00:32:58.740 in one day
00:32:59.680 than they usually do
00:33:01.220 in a month.
00:33:01.820 Three.
00:33:02.300 So we're hoping
00:33:03.140 they'll be active
00:33:03.800 because what people
00:33:05.180 need to understand,
00:33:06.140 there's a little bit
00:33:06.800 of a tension
00:33:07.420 between the Trump administration
00:33:09.120 wanting to scale back
00:33:11.320 the Department of Education
00:33:12.600 at the same time
00:33:13.880 that they want to
00:33:14.820 stop discrimination
00:33:16.540 done in the name
00:33:17.480 of diversity,
00:33:18.280 equity, and inclusion.
00:33:19.480 And if you're going
00:33:19.980 to achieve that goal
00:33:21.020 of ending DEI discrimination,
00:33:23.220 you need an enforcement mechanism.
00:33:25.360 So we're hoping
00:33:26.360 that the streamlined
00:33:28.580 Office for Civil Rights
00:33:30.560 will be more effective
00:33:31.940 than the larger
00:33:33.100 Office for Civil Rights.
00:33:34.500 And I guess
00:33:35.020 that's the whole point
00:33:35.960 of DOGE
00:33:36.700 and things like that
00:33:37.960 is that you can do
00:33:39.380 even a better job
00:33:40.560 with fewer people
00:33:41.500 sitting around
00:33:42.340 if you keep
00:33:44.120 the right people.
00:33:45.360 And that's kind
00:33:45.880 of the Twitter model
00:33:47.020 when, you know,
00:33:48.500 Musk bought Twitter,
00:33:49.680 he laid off like 70%
00:33:51.760 of the people
00:33:52.440 and nobody noticed.
00:33:53.800 It didn't make a difference.
00:33:55.500 And so I think
00:33:56.480 that's it.
00:33:57.080 And so a hopeful sign
00:33:58.420 breaking news here
00:33:59.240 that we, you know,
00:34:00.560 we in the first day
00:34:02.540 after the reconfiguration,
00:34:04.600 they seem to be
00:34:05.680 very active.
00:34:07.440 You know,
00:34:08.160 going back
00:34:09.040 to the private sector thing,
00:34:10.060 I worked in the private sector
00:34:11.260 my whole life,
00:34:12.280 but my whole life,
00:34:13.580 I mean,
00:34:13.980 the 15 years or so
00:34:15.460 that I've been working.
00:34:16.700 And I mean,
00:34:17.820 you see so many people
00:34:19.000 in organizations
00:34:19.740 as you're sitting there
00:34:20.960 working,
00:34:21.460 you're butt off,
00:34:22.380 sitting on their lazy butts
00:34:23.540 and you look at them
00:34:24.820 and you say,
00:34:25.400 this place would probably
00:34:26.360 run without you
00:34:27.180 and it would probably
00:34:27.680 run better without you.
00:34:29.080 And the whole embarrassing
00:34:30.320 thing about DOGE,
00:34:31.500 Professor,
00:34:31.940 is that Elon Musk
00:34:33.280 has like five or 10,
00:34:35.060 20-year-old kids,
00:34:36.800 probably never went
00:34:37.480 to college,
00:34:38.440 which I don't think
00:34:40.140 is necessarily a big deal.
00:34:41.600 If you're smart,
00:34:42.580 you're smart, right?
00:34:43.700 Who never went to college,
00:34:44.880 who have uncovered
00:34:45.920 more in this federal government
00:34:47.180 as it pertains
00:34:48.000 to waste, fraud, and abuse
00:34:49.120 than we've ever seen
00:34:50.900 in our lifetime.
00:34:52.120 They want to go in the IRS
00:34:53.160 and people are going
00:34:54.160 absolutely nuts.
00:34:55.200 And it's Democrats
00:34:56.180 because I think
00:34:56.680 they're probably
00:34:57.060 a little nervous
00:34:57.600 on what they're going
00:34:58.180 to find in there.
00:34:59.700 Imagine that,
00:35:00.440 20-year-old kids
00:35:01.120 finding this much
00:35:02.560 waste,
00:35:02.760 waste,
00:35:02.880 and abuse.
00:35:04.120 But then on the other end,
00:35:05.500 you've got judges
00:35:06.640 who think that they're
00:35:07.900 judge, jury, and verdict
00:35:09.200 and that they call
00:35:10.360 the shots on everything
00:35:11.440 and they have free will
00:35:12.560 and free reign
00:35:13.280 to do whatever
00:35:14.300 the hell they want.
00:35:15.720 How do we allow
00:35:16.820 this to happen?
00:35:17.880 I mean,
00:35:18.340 what happens
00:35:19.160 if Donald Trump,
00:35:20.040 recently we saw USAID,
00:35:22.060 these people be laid off,
00:35:23.360 these new folks,
00:35:24.160 and a judge comes back
00:35:25.460 and says,
00:35:26.000 well, you can't fire them
00:35:26.880 because they were probationary.
00:35:28.380 Since when
00:35:29.240 are workers just protected
00:35:31.580 for absolutely no reason?
00:35:32.720 I thought we were
00:35:33.780 all at will employees
00:35:34.980 and we can be fired
00:35:35.660 at any time
00:35:36.260 for any reason they want.
00:35:38.880 Well, I mean,
00:35:39.660 the argument is that
00:35:40.580 those employees,
00:35:42.400 some of whom
00:35:42.780 are union members,
00:35:43.620 might have some
00:35:44.120 job protections,
00:35:45.260 but that's not really
00:35:46.200 the issue.
00:35:47.260 The issue is the role
00:35:48.200 of the federal judiciary.
00:35:50.180 Okay,
00:35:50.340 and we've seen
00:35:50.820 some pretty egregious cases
00:35:52.420 since Trump took office
00:35:53.980 and there are over
00:35:54.660 100 cases filed
00:35:55.880 against his administration.
00:35:57.700 That's it?
00:35:58.460 I checked,
00:35:59.560 it was over 100.
00:36:00.780 Very highly organized
00:36:02.680 lawfare.
00:36:04.300 New York Times
00:36:04.860 wrote about it
00:36:05.440 last November.
00:36:06.900 800 lawyers
00:36:07.820 and 40 different
00:36:08.740 companies and firms
00:36:09.940 prepared to swamp
00:36:11.440 Trump administration
00:36:12.520 in lawsuits.
00:36:13.620 And the federal judges
00:36:14.660 do have the right
00:36:16.620 to determine
00:36:17.260 people's rights
00:36:18.360 and whether your rights
00:36:19.360 have been violated.
00:36:20.460 That's not new.
00:36:21.740 But a lot of them
00:36:22.760 have gone a lot further
00:36:23.840 and are really,
00:36:25.260 in my view,
00:36:25.880 and I think
00:36:26.340 the Supreme Court
00:36:27.340 ultimately in its view,
00:36:29.260 are exceeding
00:36:30.420 the constitutional
00:36:31.400 boundaries.
00:36:32.500 They are making
00:36:33.080 policy decisions
00:36:34.420 for the executive branch.
00:36:36.280 And in our separation
00:36:37.200 of powers,
00:36:38.340 the judiciary
00:36:39.080 may get to determine
00:36:40.600 rights,
00:36:41.280 but they don't get
00:36:42.100 to make policy decisions.
00:36:43.840 And a lot of what's
00:36:44.840 been happening
00:36:45.540 about who you can hire,
00:36:47.280 who you can fire,
00:36:48.400 who you can give
00:36:49.120 information to,
00:36:50.500 what the Doge people
00:36:51.560 can look at,
00:36:52.240 what they can't look at,
00:36:53.420 these are,
00:36:54.320 in most cases,
00:36:55.220 really policy decisions.
00:36:57.220 And the judges
00:36:58.140 have many of them,
00:36:59.660 not all.
00:37:00.340 There are many
00:37:00.880 who have said,
00:37:01.420 I'm not going to go there.
00:37:02.500 I'm not going to do this.
00:37:03.600 Okay?
00:37:04.160 And I think ultimately
00:37:05.500 Trump will prevail
00:37:06.860 on the vast majority
00:37:08.560 of these lawsuits.
00:37:09.780 But the way it works
00:37:11.000 is they go in,
00:37:12.260 hair on fire,
00:37:14.020 judge,
00:37:14.820 end of the world,
00:37:15.820 and the judge gives them
00:37:16.740 a temporary restraining order,
00:37:18.780 which is very hard
00:37:19.820 to appeal.
00:37:21.160 And so for a week,
00:37:23.180 two weeks,
00:37:23.760 three weeks,
00:37:24.280 they get their way.
00:37:25.260 But what we're seeing
00:37:26.440 in most of these cases,
00:37:27.640 as they work their way up
00:37:29.040 in the system,
00:37:29.900 they're getting reversed
00:37:31.060 or stayed or stricken.
00:37:32.740 So he will prevail
00:37:33.740 on most of them,
00:37:35.160 but we have a real problem
00:37:36.680 with the federal judiciary
00:37:37.820 going too far.
00:37:39.620 And I'll give you my insight
00:37:40.400 on why I believe that is.
00:37:41.800 Donald Trump had four years
00:37:42.860 to prepare for coming back
00:37:43.920 to office.
00:37:45.300 He had guys like Stephen Miller,
00:37:46.800 who is a very,
00:37:47.780 very smart human being,
00:37:49.460 drafting up a lot
00:37:50.300 of his legislation.
00:37:51.260 And this was maybe even
00:37:53.040 before he won the White House.
00:37:54.120 I'm not 100% sure that's true,
00:37:56.500 but I have to assume
00:37:58.300 guys like Stephen Miller
00:37:59.480 and his think tank
00:38:01.160 were, you know,
00:38:01.900 drafting legislation
00:38:02.680 way before President Trump
00:38:03.820 took office.
00:38:04.380 And they did it,
00:38:05.180 I think,
00:38:05.340 in a foolproof way,
00:38:06.400 which is why you're not hearing.
00:38:07.940 You maybe hear about
00:38:08.680 four or five cases
00:38:09.540 every now and then,
00:38:10.200 but you haven't heard
00:38:10.720 about these 100 cases.
00:38:12.160 And Donald Trump,
00:38:12.920 as you said,
00:38:13.480 prevailed.
00:38:14.260 I think he's won
00:38:15.180 the most of them
00:38:16.200 that have come out
00:38:16.860 in the public domain.
00:38:19.060 My question to you is,
00:38:20.660 why is it that
00:38:21.500 we constantly see
00:38:22.840 these same judges
00:38:24.620 time and time again?
00:38:26.180 Beryl Howell from D.C.,
00:38:27.820 Tanya Chutkin,
00:38:28.640 the judge that was
00:38:29.880 on the Donald Trump
00:38:30.820 documents case.
00:38:31.880 It's these J6 attorneys.
00:38:33.280 It's like the same
00:38:34.080 four or five attorneys
00:38:35.420 that you constantly see
00:38:36.840 popping up again
00:38:37.720 in these same cases
00:38:39.060 that have something
00:38:39.980 to do with Donald Trump.
00:38:41.320 How is that possible?
00:38:43.480 Well,
00:38:44.300 because the other side
00:38:45.480 is forum shopping,
00:38:47.280 the opponents
00:38:47.940 of the Trump administration.
00:38:49.320 D.C. is a different issue,
00:38:52.440 the D.C. District Court,
00:38:54.220 because where it's located,
00:38:55.580 it's the natural place
00:38:56.900 for a lot of things
00:38:57.780 challenging government action.
00:38:59.840 But a lot of what
00:39:01.080 they've been doing
00:39:01.560 is going to jurisdictions
00:39:02.840 where a high percentage,
00:39:05.500 if not all,
00:39:06.220 of the judges
00:39:06.820 were nominated
00:39:08.040 by Democrat senators
00:39:09.260 and Democrat presidents.
00:39:11.400 So they filed
00:39:12.180 a big case in Rhode Island.
00:39:13.860 You don't get more blue
00:39:14.780 than Rhode Island.
00:39:15.660 They filed a couple
00:39:16.560 of big cases
00:39:17.160 in Massachusetts.
00:39:17.980 So they file
00:39:20.080 in jurisdictions
00:39:20.960 where there's
00:39:22.080 a high likelihood
00:39:23.340 they are going
00:39:24.520 to get a more favorable judge,
00:39:26.420 a Biden appointee,
00:39:27.660 that sort of thing.
00:39:28.820 D.C. court
00:39:29.700 is a problem
00:39:31.520 because so much
00:39:32.600 federal litigation
00:39:33.820 against the government,
00:39:34.980 that is an appropriate
00:39:36.260 venue for it,
00:39:37.480 place for it.
00:39:38.360 But that is, again,
00:39:39.860 a location
00:39:40.500 where there are
00:39:41.000 a lot of Biden judges.
00:39:42.220 The one who ruled
00:39:44.100 might be in the case
00:39:46.800 you referenced earlier,
00:39:48.320 but the one who ruled
00:39:49.460 that they had to pay
00:39:50.160 $2 billion in invoices
00:39:52.040 by midnight,
00:39:53.060 okay, remember that case?
00:39:54.920 It went up to the Supreme Court
00:39:56.120 and they issued a stay
00:39:57.200 and then it went,
00:39:58.660 get sent back down.
00:39:59.840 That guy shouldn't even
00:40:00.800 be on the bench.
00:40:01.860 Thank you, Republicans.
00:40:03.260 He was one of,
00:40:04.340 if not the last,
00:40:05.460 Biden appointees.
00:40:07.060 He was not,
00:40:07.700 he was confirmed
00:40:09.380 in November
00:40:10.160 after the election
00:40:11.440 because Senator Braun
00:40:14.020 from Indiana
00:40:15.000 didn't show up
00:40:15.840 to vote no.
00:40:16.940 Yeah.
00:40:17.220 Okay.
00:40:17.520 It would have been
00:40:18.380 a 50-50 split.
00:40:19.940 Judge Ali
00:40:20.440 would have been
00:40:21.160 a 50-50 split.
00:40:22.720 Kamala was no place
00:40:24.200 to be found over.
00:40:25.960 You know,
00:40:26.220 after the election,
00:40:28.280 you know,
00:40:28.940 they would have,
00:40:29.720 you know,
00:40:30.260 I won't even make jokes
00:40:31.600 about where she might
00:40:32.660 have been,
00:40:33.380 but she was in Hawaii.
00:40:35.000 And she,
00:40:38.280 so it would have been
00:40:38.940 a 50-50 deadlock,
00:40:40.200 but Senator Braun
00:40:41.160 didn't show up to vote.
00:40:42.320 He got through 50-49
00:40:44.060 and now he's creating
00:40:45.960 all this havoc
00:40:46.820 in these cases.
00:40:48.660 And he has pretty much,
00:40:50.400 he will,
00:40:51.560 I won't say he's been reversed
00:40:52.880 by the Supreme Court,
00:40:54.180 but they sent it back to him
00:40:56.800 with instructions
00:40:57.540 to do better,
00:40:58.740 basically.
00:41:00.040 And,
00:41:00.620 but that's what
00:41:01.380 we're going to face.
00:41:02.360 There's going to be
00:41:03.100 a lot of litigation in D.C.
00:41:04.620 There are a lot of
00:41:05.260 Biden appointees in D.C.
00:41:07.320 district court,
00:41:08.380 and it's the reality
00:41:09.920 we face.
00:41:11.600 What happened to,
00:41:12.780 in 2020,
00:41:13.540 when President Trump
00:41:14.160 and his team
00:41:14.520 were filing all these
00:41:15.300 legal cases
00:41:16.520 against election fraud
00:41:18.180 and stuff like that,
00:41:19.060 you constantly had cases
00:41:20.200 thrown out for standing.
00:41:21.240 You don't have standing.
00:41:21.960 You don't have standing.
00:41:22.620 You don't have standing.
00:41:23.300 Why is it that these people
00:41:24.600 can go to any court they want
00:41:25.900 and all of a sudden
00:41:26.520 they have standing?
00:41:28.000 Well,
00:41:28.260 a lot of them don't.
00:41:29.300 And they've,
00:41:29.800 the judges have just
00:41:30.720 completely disregarded that.
00:41:32.160 And I think they're going
00:41:32.740 to lose on appeal.
00:41:33.960 I think a lot of them
00:41:34.600 of these cases
00:41:35.480 brought by the unions,
00:41:37.140 brought by the states,
00:41:38.640 brought by different
00:41:39.640 organizations,
00:41:40.980 they don't have standing.
00:41:42.100 And the district courts
00:41:43.500 have not been vigilant
00:41:44.900 like they are
00:41:45.720 in other cases.
00:41:46.580 And I think they're going
00:41:47.580 to lose on appeal
00:41:49.100 because there's nothing
00:41:50.120 appeals court judge
00:41:51.160 courts love doing more
00:41:53.060 than tossing cases
00:41:54.140 on standing,
00:41:54.960 including the Supreme Court.
00:41:56.880 And so I think a lot
00:41:58.080 of these things
00:41:58.560 are going to go away
00:41:59.220 just on the basis
00:42:00.200 you mentioned.
00:42:01.500 It's rules for thee,
00:42:02.520 but not for me.
00:42:03.260 And nobody says
00:42:03.940 a word about it.
00:42:04.940 I haven't heard anybody
00:42:05.720 say a word about it.
00:42:06.860 I'm not saying
00:42:07.500 I'm the first one,
00:42:08.220 but in the mainstream media,
00:42:10.020 I haven't heard anyone
00:42:10.540 saying, you know,
00:42:11.320 where's the standing?
00:42:12.060 In 2020,
00:42:12.800 everyone's like,
00:42:13.240 oh, Donald Trump has no,
00:42:14.400 he wasn't going to bring
00:42:15.440 the case.
00:42:15.820 He has no standing.
00:42:16.620 Look, there's no fraud.
00:42:17.920 No, it's because
00:42:18.720 this BS thing
00:42:19.480 that there's no standing.
00:42:20.500 And that means
00:42:21.180 you have no right
00:42:21.740 to bring the case there.
00:42:23.200 I want to turn to
00:42:24.240 before we wrap up here,
00:42:25.640 the whole birthright
00:42:26.420 citizenship thing.
00:42:27.220 And last time we spoke,
00:42:28.060 I think we got into
00:42:28.740 this a little bit
00:42:29.280 and I had expressed to you
00:42:30.680 that I have a feeling
00:42:31.680 that courts
00:42:32.520 and the Supreme Court
00:42:33.260 are somehow going
00:42:33.780 to get involved in this
00:42:34.720 because there's nothing
00:42:35.560 in the Constitution
00:42:36.160 about it.
00:42:37.580 Where are we at right now
00:42:39.080 as Donald Trump now
00:42:40.140 is going to the Supreme Court
00:42:41.280 and says,
00:42:41.880 these people have no right
00:42:43.380 to be here?
00:42:45.160 Well, that's an issue.
00:42:46.780 So some,
00:42:47.320 I think the First Circuit,
00:42:48.540 which is New England,
00:42:49.380 basically,
00:42:50.720 Court of Appeals,
00:42:51.620 upheld the lower court
00:42:53.860 finding injunction
00:42:55.340 against birthright citizenship.
00:42:57.200 So it's now primed
00:42:58.220 to go to the Supreme Court.
00:43:00.640 And I think
00:43:02.160 they will probably take it.
00:43:03.420 I think they will
00:43:04.020 probably take it.
00:43:06.140 How their rule,
00:43:08.060 I think we may have
00:43:08.820 talked about this last time,
00:43:10.180 I don't think it's
00:43:10.880 as open and shut
00:43:11.780 as a lot of people
00:43:13.800 are saying.
00:43:14.780 I think if you had
00:43:15.680 to place a money bet,
00:43:16.860 I think the Supreme Court
00:43:18.280 probably will uphold
00:43:19.840 the birthright citizenship
00:43:21.160 doctrine,
00:43:22.160 but I'm not positive of it.
00:43:24.400 And it's not a guarantee.
00:43:26.400 It's not as simple
00:43:27.540 an issue
00:43:27.980 as people are claiming.
00:43:29.820 And, you know,
00:43:30.900 if you have originalists
00:43:32.660 on the court,
00:43:33.280 if you look,
00:43:34.320 if you have judges,
00:43:35.440 justices,
00:43:35.960 which we do,
00:43:36.780 at least some of them,
00:43:38.380 not six of them,
00:43:40.000 but some of them
00:43:40.760 who will look at
00:43:41.640 what the initial meaning was,
00:43:43.420 I think you may come up
00:43:44.900 with a ruling
00:43:45.900 that the language
00:43:47.000 people cite
00:43:48.020 about,
00:43:49.100 you know,
00:43:49.300 from the 14th Amendment,
00:43:50.900 for birthright citizen,
00:43:52.780 that is not
00:43:53.880 what was intended.
00:43:54.840 It was never intended
00:43:56.200 to confer
00:43:57.540 citizenship
00:43:59.100 upon people
00:44:00.460 in the country
00:44:01.320 illegally.
00:44:02.620 Okay?
00:44:03.100 And there is no
00:44:04.360 high-level court,
00:44:06.540 meaning Supreme Court,
00:44:07.900 or I think even
00:44:08.780 Court of Appeals,
00:44:09.520 not sure about that.
00:44:10.580 The Supreme Court
00:44:11.400 has never held
00:44:12.580 that someone
00:44:14.100 born in this country
00:44:16.060 to people
00:44:17.560 who are here
00:44:18.540 illegally
00:44:19.400 is an automatic
00:44:21.200 citizen.
00:44:22.660 They have held
00:44:23.800 that people
00:44:24.340 who are
00:44:24.960 born here
00:44:26.100 to permanent
00:44:27.080 residence,
00:44:28.660 so people
00:44:29.140 in the country
00:44:30.040 lawfully
00:44:30.940 being citizenship.
00:44:32.780 So,
00:44:33.000 it's not
00:44:33.600 open and shut,
00:44:34.880 and I think
00:44:35.280 we're primed
00:44:35.800 to get there,
00:44:36.680 and it will be
00:44:38.680 a legal
00:44:39.700 earthquake,
00:44:41.200 and it's
00:44:41.860 unlike,
00:44:42.520 it's not like
00:44:43.140 the abortion one
00:44:43.960 where they're
00:44:44.340 actually having
00:44:44.980 to overrule
00:44:45.860 a prior decision.
00:44:47.280 Yeah.
00:44:47.560 There is no
00:44:48.240 prior Supreme Court
00:44:49.300 decision
00:44:49.780 that they have
00:44:50.420 to overrule.
00:44:52.080 Right.
00:44:52.620 This will be
00:44:53.040 a new decision
00:44:53.600 that we'll live by,
00:44:54.780 and I mean,
00:44:55.680 I share your
00:44:56.780 pessimism
00:44:58.220 in some
00:45:00.060 of the ways
00:45:00.400 we've seen
00:45:00.940 someone like
00:45:01.760 Amy Coney Barrett
00:45:03.100 ruling recently.
00:45:04.120 Total disgrace,
00:45:05.660 in my opinion,
00:45:06.300 and total
00:45:06.940 disappointment.
00:45:08.860 Not a
00:45:09.440 constitutionalist,
00:45:10.220 I think,
00:45:10.460 by any means.
00:45:11.380 Donald Trump
00:45:12.060 got one out
00:45:12.620 of three.
00:45:13.080 Neil Gorsuch,
00:45:13.740 who I think
00:45:14.180 really knows
00:45:15.080 what he's doing
00:45:15.580 and really knows
00:45:16.180 the Constitution.
00:45:17.780 You've got
00:45:18.240 John Roberts
00:45:18.900 on there,
00:45:19.960 completely lost,
00:45:21.600 I think,
00:45:22.000 and you've got
00:45:22.540 Brett Kavanaugh
00:45:23.520 who votes
00:45:24.700 whatever way
00:45:25.120 the wind is
00:45:25.580 blowing that day.
00:45:27.000 The other issue
00:45:27.920 we have,
00:45:28.380 too,
00:45:28.520 is DACA.
00:45:29.240 Do you think
00:45:29.640 we finally get
00:45:30.480 a ruling
00:45:30.920 on DACA?
00:45:33.260 Yeah,
00:45:33.720 I'm not sure
00:45:34.200 where that is,
00:45:34.960 if that's at
00:45:35.500 the Supreme Court
00:45:36.300 or not.
00:45:37.160 There have been
00:45:37.760 courts that have
00:45:38.480 ruled it unlawful.
00:45:40.300 I don't know
00:45:41.140 if that's going
00:45:41.620 back to the Supreme Court.
00:45:43.740 You know,
00:45:44.000 one of the problems
00:45:44.880 with the federal
00:45:45.600 government
00:45:46.120 is that once
00:45:47.300 you implement
00:45:47.880 something,
00:45:48.880 it's very hard
00:45:49.540 to get rid of it.
00:45:50.940 And people
00:45:51.960 don't realize
00:45:52.480 DACA is not
00:45:53.560 a law,
00:45:54.420 okay?
00:45:54.740 It's not even
00:45:55.720 an executive order.
00:45:57.180 It was a memo
00:45:58.080 in the Obama
00:45:59.600 executive department
00:46:00.900 department,
00:46:01.880 okay?
00:46:02.460 And Trump won.
00:46:04.660 He tried to get rid
00:46:05.460 of it,
00:46:05.860 and the courts
00:46:06.400 ruled you didn't
00:46:06.960 get rid of it
00:46:07.560 the right way.
00:46:08.820 And it's been
00:46:09.520 percolating in litigation,
00:46:10.660 and we do now
00:46:11.520 have some court
00:46:12.320 rulings
00:46:12.780 that the president,
00:46:15.060 by a memorandum,
00:46:16.080 in that case Obama,
00:46:17.200 can't just change
00:46:17.960 the immigration laws,
00:46:19.340 okay?
00:46:20.320 And so I think
00:46:21.240 it's primed.
00:46:21.740 I don't know
00:46:22.260 where it is
00:46:22.740 in terms of
00:46:23.220 going back
00:46:23.760 to the Supreme Court,
00:46:24.840 but I think
00:46:25.480 we're near
00:46:25.940 the end of DACA.
00:46:27.460 So if you can
00:46:28.400 do it with a memo,
00:46:29.240 why can't you
00:46:29.780 undo it with a memo?
00:46:31.420 Well,
00:46:31.560 that's the whole point.
00:46:32.640 That's right.
00:46:33.760 And that's what
00:46:34.700 really confounded
00:46:35.860 things,
00:46:36.880 and that's where
00:46:37.740 there's this thing
00:46:38.900 called the
00:46:39.200 Administrative Procedures Act,
00:46:41.160 and you've got to
00:46:41.900 do it the right way.
00:46:43.340 I don't understand
00:46:44.280 all the intricacies
00:46:45.340 of it,
00:46:46.080 but that's where
00:46:46.820 Trump lost
00:46:47.540 the first time around
00:46:48.560 is on the
00:46:49.400 Administrative Procedures Act.
00:46:51.640 Listen,
00:46:52.140 we overturned Roe v.
00:46:53.180 Wade and then
00:46:53.900 sent that back
00:46:55.080 to the states.
00:46:56.040 This is,
00:46:56.600 I think,
00:46:56.740 a lot smaller
00:46:57.320 than that.
00:46:58.540 This is something
00:46:59.160 only the last,
00:47:00.360 when did Obama
00:47:01.080 do it?
00:47:01.540 Maybe less
00:47:02.360 than 10 years ago,
00:47:03.140 right?
00:47:03.460 It has to be
00:47:04.140 something like that.
00:47:05.340 Probably
00:47:05.760 approaching 15 years ago.
00:47:07.580 I mean,
00:47:07.880 yeah.
00:47:08.180 something that's been,
00:47:11.380 I guess,
00:47:11.760 law a lot shorter
00:47:12.840 than Roe v.
00:47:13.360 Wade,
00:47:13.520 and they had no
00:47:13.980 problem overturning
00:47:14.660 that,
00:47:14.920 but I'm a little
00:47:15.760 bit nervous.
00:47:16.760 That just brought
00:47:17.540 something to my mind
00:47:18.260 as we were talking
00:47:18.800 about Kamala Harris
00:47:19.680 and the Senate
00:47:20.700 and that vote,
00:47:22.240 which I'd be remiss
00:47:23.440 if I didn't ask you
00:47:24.500 about the auto
00:47:25.920 Penn scandal
00:47:26.620 with Joe Biden.
00:47:28.100 He signs all
00:47:29.220 these pardons
00:47:30.080 while he's in
00:47:31.080 St. Croix
00:47:31.660 on vacation golfing,
00:47:33.220 signed on the 22nd,
00:47:34.340 I think,
00:47:34.580 of June 20,
00:47:36.040 whatever the year
00:47:37.180 was,
00:47:37.820 says that they
00:47:38.520 were signed
00:47:38.900 in the District
00:47:39.360 of Columbia.
00:47:39.960 We know he
00:47:40.360 wasn't there.
00:47:41.840 Does this pose
00:47:42.700 any issues
00:47:43.300 for some things
00:47:44.000 that were signed
00:47:45.180 with this auto
00:47:45.740 Penn?
00:47:47.220 Well,
00:47:47.700 it might.
00:47:48.420 I mean,
00:47:48.680 were they valid
00:47:50.280 presidential proclamations?
00:47:52.940 If it hadn't been
00:47:53.800 the auto signature,
00:47:55.000 and I don't know
00:47:55.500 what the law
00:47:56.120 is on that auto
00:47:57.120 signature,
00:47:58.100 if using it
00:47:59.100 legally is the
00:48:00.780 equivalent of the
00:48:01.680 president signing it.
00:48:03.260 So I just don't know
00:48:04.440 and I don't want
00:48:05.000 to speculate
00:48:05.480 how this will come out,
00:48:06.620 but it's a very
00:48:07.340 interesting question.
00:48:08.720 If the president
00:48:09.500 doesn't actually sign it
00:48:11.460 and the document
00:48:12.800 says it was signed
00:48:13.700 in a place
00:48:14.280 where he wasn't
00:48:15.180 at that time,
00:48:16.520 is it valid?
00:48:17.540 I think that's
00:48:18.100 a legitimate question.
00:48:20.460 Yeah,
00:48:20.640 I guess we'll have
00:48:21.240 to wait and see.
00:48:21.820 I just had to,
00:48:22.500 I had to get that
00:48:23.060 off my chest
00:48:23.560 because President Trump
00:48:24.440 commented on it today
00:48:25.480 and, you know,
00:48:26.580 I'm just curious
00:48:27.060 what the hell's going on
00:48:27.920 with Joe Biden
00:48:28.840 and what's going on.
00:48:30.600 Nobody's heard from him.
00:48:31.720 You got the last word
00:48:32.620 here before we wrap up.
00:48:35.140 Interesting times.
00:48:35.940 Thank you for having me back.
00:48:37.400 I always like coming
00:48:38.160 on this show.
00:48:38.920 I liked it when it was Lou
00:48:40.000 and I like it when it's you
00:48:41.260 and that we get enough time
00:48:43.720 to actually talk about
00:48:44.720 things in depth.
00:48:45.520 So thanks for having me
00:48:46.400 on again.
00:48:47.160 I appreciate it.
00:48:47.920 And you're always
00:48:48.260 welcome back here,
00:48:49.220 you know,
00:48:49.580 anytime you want.
00:48:50.220 I think you're one of the
00:48:50.920 most brilliant legal minds
00:48:52.660 out there and you always
00:48:54.060 have great insights
00:48:55.120 on things that are
00:48:56.160 shaping our economy
00:48:57.000 and shaping our world.
00:48:58.000 So you're always
00:48:58.860 welcome back here
00:48:59.600 as often as you like
00:49:00.920 to come back.
00:49:02.100 Great.
00:49:02.440 Thank you.
00:49:03.420 Professor William Jacobson.
00:49:04.500 You guys can check out
00:49:05.240 his website,
00:49:06.200 EqualProtect.org.
00:49:08.020 Professor,
00:49:08.480 come back soon.
00:49:09.700 Thank you.
00:49:10.920 Folks,
00:49:11.360 as I said,
00:49:11.820 you can check him out,
00:49:12.520 EqualProtect.org.
00:49:14.060 Brilliant legal mind.
00:49:16.240 A great American.
00:49:18.160 Doesn't have it easy,
00:49:19.120 folks.
00:49:19.580 Teaching at a school
00:49:21.720 that's only partially,
00:49:24.100 I guess,
00:49:24.500 from the sounds of it,
00:49:25.800 partially indoctrinated
00:49:26.440 indoctrinated
00:49:27.080 by these Marxists
00:49:28.540 that are trying
00:49:29.660 to take over our world,
00:49:30.580 take over our society.
00:49:32.020 Before we go,
00:49:32.860 speaking of Marxists,
00:49:34.020 James Carville,
00:49:35.020 who's losing his mind.
00:49:36.980 The guy's absolutely losing it.
00:49:38.640 I don't know if he's
00:49:39.500 got dementia.
00:49:40.560 I don't know,
00:49:41.580 but he's losing
00:49:42.360 his damn mind.
00:49:43.920 On a podcast,
00:49:45.000 I think,
00:49:45.200 with Chris Cuomo this week,
00:49:47.260 had some things to say
00:49:48.180 about Donald Trump.
00:49:48.820 Now,
00:49:48.940 this is a man who said
00:49:49.620 Donald Trump was going
00:49:50.280 to lose the election.
00:49:51.720 He said,
00:49:52.220 again,
00:49:52.500 Donald Trump was going
00:49:53.200 to lose,
00:49:54.360 which he said the first
00:49:55.360 two times.
00:49:57.100 I guess he was partially
00:49:58.200 right in 2020
00:49:58.900 because the election
00:49:59.460 was stolen.
00:50:00.720 He said,
00:50:01.240 Donald Trump's approval
00:50:01.980 rating is going
00:50:02.500 through the floor.
00:50:03.580 Our good friends
00:50:04.000 at Rasmussen,
00:50:04.740 Mark Mitchell,
00:50:05.260 tell us otherwise.
00:50:06.280 His approval rating
00:50:07.160 continues to skyrocket,
00:50:09.460 but he's now got
00:50:10.420 a new prediction.
00:50:12.280 President Trump
00:50:12.920 has syphilis.
00:50:14.940 I'm joking.
00:50:16.560 Take a listen
00:50:17.300 to this unhinged lunatic,
00:50:18.780 please.
00:50:20.000 What are you going
00:50:20.600 for here with the,
00:50:22.560 I'm worried that
00:50:23.220 Trump has syphilis?
00:50:25.240 Well,
00:50:25.460 okay,
00:50:25.780 first of all,
00:50:27.300 there's something
00:50:28.060 wrong with him.
00:50:29.180 That's pretty clear.
00:50:30.280 That meeting
00:50:31.560 in the Oval Office
00:50:32.620 was a significant
00:50:33.780 deterioration.
00:50:35.780 Secondly,
00:50:36.720 we do know
00:50:37.620 that he did have
00:50:38.740 red splotches
00:50:39.740 on his hand,
00:50:40.580 which,
00:50:40.920 you know,
00:50:41.580 it could be
00:50:42.680 an indication
00:50:43.680 of syphilis.
00:50:44.400 But the other thing
00:50:45.280 that we know
00:50:45.880 that we didn't talk
00:50:46.500 about,
00:50:46.840 on January the 17th,
00:50:49.080 2017,
00:50:50.740 Keith Schiller
00:50:51.420 and two other goons
00:50:52.340 broke into
00:50:52.940 his doctor's office,
00:50:54.100 Dr. Bornstein,
00:50:55.660 and confiscated
00:50:56.600 his health records.
00:50:57.800 We have never seen them.
00:50:59.040 We don't know
00:50:59.580 what's in it.
00:51:00.880 So,
00:51:01.320 if I take,
00:51:03.580 of course,
00:51:04.520 I'm speculating,
00:51:05.380 but if he had
00:51:07.280 an enlarged prostate
00:51:08.540 or had a
00:51:09.680 precancerous skin
00:51:11.000 lesion,
00:51:11.840 you wouldn't steal
00:51:12.740 your medical records,
00:51:13.840 would you?
00:51:14.480 You wouldn't break
00:51:15.280 into your internist
00:51:16.520 and send people
00:51:17.980 to confiscate
00:51:18.620 his medical records.
00:51:19.400 So,
00:51:21.420 unlike people
00:51:22.320 who say,
00:51:22.840 well,
00:51:23.680 I'm just asking
00:51:24.800 questions.
00:51:25.840 No,
00:51:26.220 you're not.
00:51:27.480 Of course I am.
00:51:28.940 There's some
00:51:29.400 deterioration in him.
00:51:31.140 He did have
00:51:32.120 skin splotches.
00:51:33.500 He did
00:51:34.040 confiscate
00:51:34.800 his medical records.
00:51:37.120 What,
00:51:37.740 maybe that's
00:51:38.380 a benign
00:51:39.040 explanation.
00:51:40.700 I don't know,
00:51:42.520 but,
00:51:42.920 and we did watch
00:51:44.060 a,
00:51:44.560 a,
00:51:44.940 a event
00:51:45.860 unlike anything
00:51:46.700 we've ever seen
00:51:47.600 in American history
00:51:48.500 in the Oval Office.
00:51:50.280 And so,
00:51:51.220 people can say,
00:51:52.740 well,
00:51:52.980 I just kind of
00:51:53.620 happened and say,
00:51:55.040 let's be fair about it.
00:51:56.220 People can say,
00:51:56.840 there's something
00:51:57.340 really fundamentally
00:51:59.040 wrong yet.
00:52:01.640 Folks,
00:52:02.120 I'm sorry,
00:52:03.040 but I had to watch
00:52:04.160 all two minutes
00:52:05.140 of that today.
00:52:05.780 So,
00:52:06.180 it's only fair
00:52:07.340 that I share that
00:52:08.020 with you and you guys
00:52:08.920 get to wallow
00:52:10.060 in the joy with me.
00:52:11.680 These people
00:52:12.380 are losing it.
00:52:13.040 It's not just him.
00:52:13.940 It's the Marxist
00:52:15.000 Dem Party.
00:52:16.480 I mean,
00:52:17.160 what is going on
00:52:18.180 with these people?
00:52:19.320 What is in the water
00:52:20.540 that they just
00:52:22.080 have this derangement?
00:52:23.560 We all put up
00:52:24.480 with Joe Biden
00:52:25.060 for four years.
00:52:26.360 We couldn't stand him.
00:52:27.640 But you know what?
00:52:28.220 We came out here,
00:52:29.020 Lou Dobbs and I,
00:52:29.780 and we told the news
00:52:30.740 every single night
00:52:31.680 with our opinion,
00:52:33.420 our spin on the news,
00:52:34.680 not our spin on the news,
00:52:35.580 but our spin
00:52:36.680 on what we're thinking,
00:52:38.200 our logical thinking.
00:52:39.980 And,
00:52:40.260 you know,
00:52:41.480 if Joe Biden
00:52:41.960 did something right,
00:52:42.860 we reported on it
00:52:44.140 as it was.
00:52:44.880 But you never heard us,
00:52:46.560 you know,
00:52:47.040 coming out here
00:52:47.700 saying Joe Biden
00:52:49.300 had syphilis,
00:52:50.640 dementia,
00:52:51.120 yes,
00:52:51.400 but that wasn't just
00:52:52.420 us saying it.
00:52:53.500 This was medical doctors
00:52:54.960 saying it.
00:52:56.740 People who worked with him,
00:52:58.080 people who were around him,
00:52:59.840 former Speaker
00:53:00.460 Kevin McCarthy,
00:53:01.200 you know,
00:53:02.160 told us at one point
00:53:03.080 he'd sit in a meeting
00:53:03.740 with Joe Biden
00:53:05.200 and the man didn't know
00:53:06.500 what was going on.
00:53:07.560 He had no cards
00:53:08.700 to talk to everybody,
00:53:10.200 you know,
00:53:11.400 didn't know
00:53:11.760 what the hell
00:53:12.100 was going on.
00:53:12.980 But you've got Carville
00:53:14.060 out here
00:53:15.140 accusing President Trump
00:53:16.460 of syphilis.
00:53:17.240 It's truly remarkable
00:53:19.160 times that we're in.
00:53:21.020 Chuck Schumer
00:53:21.400 playing a big
00:53:23.480 tough guy battle
00:53:24.560 for the spending bill,
00:53:27.100 which he says
00:53:27.720 is not going to pass
00:53:28.860 because the Republicans
00:53:29.500 don't have the votes.
00:53:30.400 Now,
00:53:30.920 Rand Paul had said
00:53:31.960 he's not going to vote for it
00:53:33.180 and you need 60 votes
00:53:34.600 because of the filibuster rule
00:53:35.840 to invoke cloture
00:53:36.640 on the vote.
00:53:37.100 So they don't have it
00:53:38.180 in that sense.
00:53:38.680 You need, I believe,
00:53:39.720 eight Democrats
00:53:40.520 in order to invoke cloture.
00:53:44.200 So Chuck Schumer
00:53:45.440 comes out this week
00:53:46.520 and says, you know,
00:53:47.120 we're not supporting it.
00:53:48.920 So it's essentially
00:53:49.840 his shutdown
00:53:50.400 if it does happen.
00:53:51.400 Now, the government
00:53:51.840 shuts down tomorrow
00:53:52.600 at midnight
00:53:53.120 if it winds up happening.
00:53:55.140 It's now being reported
00:53:56.300 that Chuck Schumer
00:53:56.940 was just talking tough
00:53:58.140 and that they're actually
00:53:59.780 going to
00:54:00.860 fund the government
00:54:02.640 through September 30th
00:54:04.660 with the continuing resolution.
00:54:07.220 but just sick.
00:54:08.900 I mean,
00:54:09.160 the Democrats,
00:54:10.280 this will be the first time,
00:54:11.600 by the way,
00:54:11.960 in a long time
00:54:12.660 where the Republicans
00:54:13.820 may finally win
00:54:15.160 a battle on the budget
00:54:16.240 and win a battle
00:54:17.020 against the Democrats
00:54:18.360 on anything
00:54:19.400 because time and time again,
00:54:22.580 the Republicans
00:54:23.160 got beat over the head.
00:54:24.380 They continue to get
00:54:25.120 beat over the head
00:54:25.840 by the Marxist Dems
00:54:27.140 and I say this all the time.
00:54:28.360 It's not because
00:54:28.820 they're smarter.
00:54:29.800 It's not because
00:54:30.480 they work harder.
00:54:31.320 It's just because
00:54:31.800 the Republicans
00:54:32.400 are feckless.
00:54:33.040 they're always scared
00:54:34.180 of the optics
00:54:34.820 on how things
00:54:35.800 are going to lose
00:54:36.320 and they've always caved
00:54:37.080 and we're always scared
00:54:38.020 to shut down the government
00:54:38.960 and they settle
00:54:39.800 for whatever
00:54:40.220 the Marxist Dems wanted,
00:54:42.000 give them whatever
00:54:42.880 they wanted
00:54:43.400 just to not shut down
00:54:44.640 the government.
00:54:45.960 And it relates
00:54:47.700 to what we're seeing today
00:54:48.660 with the stock market.
00:54:49.900 If you joined us yesterday
00:54:50.880 for our show,
00:54:51.660 I talked a lot about this.
00:54:54.020 You know,
00:54:54.240 we're going through
00:54:54.760 growing pains right now.
00:54:55.860 The fight that Donald Trump
00:54:56.780 has taken
00:54:57.300 to these countries,
00:54:59.500 to Europe,
00:55:00.300 to Canada,
00:55:00.840 is something
00:55:03.020 that we've needed.
00:55:05.840 There's no reason
00:55:06.880 that America
00:55:07.520 should be importing
00:55:08.400 more than we're exporting.
00:55:10.140 We're a consumption economy?
00:55:11.960 No.
00:55:12.800 Haiti's a consumption economy.
00:55:14.940 Dominican Republic
00:55:15.700 is a consumption economy.
00:55:17.780 Bahamas
00:55:18.220 is a consumption economy.
00:55:20.720 America should not
00:55:21.720 be a consumption economy.
00:55:23.100 There's no way
00:55:24.200 that we should have,
00:55:25.960 as I said,
00:55:27.060 be importing
00:55:28.000 more than we're exporting
00:55:28.960 and have a trade deficit
00:55:30.080 for the last 50 years.
00:55:32.680 It makes zero sense.
00:55:34.440 This is America,
00:55:35.320 the largest GDP
00:55:36.260 in the world.
00:55:37.480 Yet,
00:55:37.940 we have a trade deficit
00:55:39.560 four times larger.
00:55:41.700 It's running over
00:55:42.220 a trillion dollars.
00:55:43.420 Howard Lutnick says
00:55:44.060 it's close to two trillion.
00:55:45.520 We should not have
00:55:46.240 a trade deficit
00:55:47.380 four times larger
00:55:49.060 than the second biggest GDP,
00:55:50.760 which is China.
00:55:52.280 It shouldn't be like that.
00:55:53.780 America is innovators.
00:55:55.300 The biggest things
00:55:56.480 that America imports
00:55:57.540 is machinery
00:55:58.840 and equipment
00:55:59.440 and computers.
00:56:00.560 It makes up
00:56:01.300 30% of America's imports.
00:56:04.120 Go to the store,
00:56:04.700 folks.
00:56:04.960 Buy a John Deere.
00:56:05.780 Spend the extra 500 bucks,
00:56:07.180 1,000 bucks,
00:56:07.780 whatever it is,
00:56:08.460 to support the American economy,
00:56:10.340 to support the American job.
00:56:12.060 Buy Milwaukee tools,
00:56:13.260 tools that are made
00:56:14.040 here in America.
00:56:14.800 That's what's really
00:56:16.860 going to turn around
00:56:17.460 this economy.
00:56:18.140 That's what's going to
00:56:18.780 slow down inflation.
00:56:20.760 By putting more money
00:56:21.720 back into the pockets
00:56:22.580 of the average American,
00:56:24.000 the blue-collar American
00:56:24.960 who built up our country,
00:56:26.540 who built up our society,
00:56:27.660 who continue to do so every day.
00:56:29.380 I said it yesterday.
00:56:30.240 I said it the day before,
00:56:30.980 and I'll continue to say it.
00:56:31.780 The mechanic,
00:56:32.760 the plumber,
00:56:33.420 the electrician,
00:56:34.540 those are all people
00:56:35.320 that we can't live without.
00:56:36.900 Yeah,
00:56:37.080 we can't live without doctors.
00:56:38.160 We could probably live
00:56:38.760 without lawyers and politicians.
00:56:40.440 We'd probably have
00:56:41.040 a better society.
00:56:42.280 But those are people
00:56:43.040 we can't live without.
00:56:43.940 We can't get through
00:56:44.920 our everyday lives
00:56:45.680 without mechanics,
00:56:47.000 without plumbers,
00:56:48.040 without HVAC technicians,
00:56:50.140 heating, ventilation,
00:56:51.000 and air conditioning technicians.
00:56:53.940 That's what this whole fight
00:56:55.320 is about.
00:56:56.280 That's why the economy
00:56:57.320 or the stock market
00:56:58.620 is reacting to it.
00:57:00.060 The stock market's not reacting
00:57:01.440 to President Trump
00:57:02.540 putting tariffs
00:57:03.260 as much as they're reacting
00:57:04.780 to President Trump
00:57:06.020 wanting to cut a trillion dollars
00:57:07.320 out of the deficit,
00:57:08.780 a trillion dollars
00:57:09.400 out of the GDP.
00:57:10.320 That's what they're reacting to.
00:57:12.160 But the mainstream media,
00:57:13.400 the leftists,
00:57:14.640 Fox News will give them
00:57:15.980 the benefit of the doubt
00:57:16.680 they don't have anybody
00:57:17.420 on air smart enough
00:57:18.280 to relay that to you
00:57:20.000 because they really
00:57:21.740 don't understand
00:57:22.360 what's going on.
00:57:23.660 But that's why
00:57:24.600 we're seeing
00:57:25.240 a massive market shift.
00:57:27.880 Yeah,
00:57:28.040 the tariffs are playing
00:57:28.780 a small part,
00:57:29.860 but it was baked
00:57:30.780 into the cake.
00:57:31.640 President Trump
00:57:32.100 has been telling us
00:57:33.080 since November,
00:57:34.780 from the day he announced
00:57:36.560 he was running
00:57:36.960 for president again,
00:57:37.700 that he was going
00:57:38.420 to tariff these nations
00:57:39.440 for taking advantage
00:57:40.580 of America.
00:57:41.840 It's not new news.
00:57:43.040 There's nothing new about it.
00:57:44.440 What's new news
00:57:45.540 is the uncovering
00:57:47.320 of fraud,
00:57:47.980 waste,
00:57:48.240 and abuse
00:57:48.660 that Elon Musk
00:57:49.520 has uncovered.
00:57:51.360 Probably trillions
00:57:52.440 of dollars.
00:57:53.160 We've only uncovered,
00:57:54.040 I think,
00:57:54.700 low in the billions.
00:57:56.080 It's probably trillions
00:57:57.240 of dollars.
00:57:58.600 Now,
00:57:58.880 why is that important?
00:57:59.740 Because you constantly
00:58:00.800 hear about entitlement reforms,
00:58:03.480 Social Security,
00:58:04.460 Medicaid,
00:58:04.880 Medicare,
00:58:05.740 that we need
00:58:06.140 to reform them
00:58:06.980 because that's where
00:58:08.020 we're spending
00:58:08.380 most of our money.
00:58:10.120 Well,
00:58:10.620 if we can start
00:58:11.420 cutting trillions
00:58:12.500 of dollars
00:58:13.180 of wasteful spending,
00:58:15.820 don't you think
00:58:16.660 that helps entitlements?
00:58:18.580 Don't you think
00:58:19.160 that we'll be able
00:58:19.780 to maybe not have
00:58:20.740 to go in
00:58:21.240 and touch Social Security
00:58:22.340 for these people
00:58:23.640 who've worked
00:58:24.000 their whole lives
00:58:24.540 contributing to it
00:58:25.320 or the people
00:58:26.380 who are in Medicaid?
00:58:28.200 Don't you think?
00:58:29.600 So if you sit there
00:58:30.500 and you think about it,
00:58:31.400 that's why the Marxist
00:58:32.380 Dems are so upset.
00:58:33.940 That's why they're
00:58:34.640 going insane
00:58:35.400 of the proposition
00:58:37.160 that we may not
00:58:38.360 have to fix entitlements.
00:58:40.100 It's the same thing
00:58:41.000 with the border, folks.
00:58:42.600 If you fix the border issue
00:58:44.220 and you secure the border,
00:58:46.900 what are you going
00:58:47.320 to run on in four years?
00:58:48.380 What are you going
00:58:48.720 to run on in two years?
00:58:49.820 What are you going
00:58:50.260 to run on in six years?
00:58:51.040 You can't go out
00:58:51.720 and say,
00:58:52.200 I'm going to go fix
00:58:53.180 the border
00:58:53.480 because it's fixed.
00:58:54.960 That's why Donald Trump
00:58:55.920 is such a threat
00:58:56.520 to these people.
00:58:57.640 That's why he's such
00:58:58.260 a threat
00:58:58.540 to the establishment
00:58:59.200 because if he drains
00:59:00.540 the swamp,
00:59:01.160 as Kelly Song
00:59:01.760 is saying in the chat
00:59:02.560 right now,
00:59:03.200 if he fixes
00:59:04.060 these issues
00:59:04.620 in Washington, D.C.,
00:59:05.740 and he gets this thing
00:59:06.920 running like a locomotive
00:59:07.900 train,
00:59:08.540 what are our politicians
00:59:09.560 going to run on?
00:59:10.660 What are they going
00:59:11.240 to tell their voters
00:59:11.840 we're going to fix?
00:59:12.520 Because there'll be
00:59:12.880 nothing to fix
00:59:13.500 at that point.
00:59:15.080 Think about it.
00:59:16.720 All I'm going to ask you
00:59:17.520 to do is think about it
00:59:18.420 and look at the numbers.
00:59:20.440 Once we start
00:59:21.140 insuring jobs
00:59:21.940 back here in America
00:59:22.700 and we're already
00:59:23.220 seeing it happen
00:59:23.820 by the day,
00:59:24.800 we're seeing trillions
00:59:25.440 of dollars in investments
00:59:26.320 coming back to America.
00:59:28.540 The idea of tariffs
00:59:29.620 is not to cripple
00:59:31.240 our economy
00:59:31.980 and it's not to cripple
00:59:32.740 Canada,
00:59:33.180 it's not to cripple Mexico.
00:59:34.080 It's for America
00:59:35.400 to start onshoring
00:59:36.640 things that we sent
00:59:37.540 offshore
00:59:38.000 that we can bring
00:59:39.240 back to America.
00:59:40.540 Why are we building
00:59:41.700 cars in Mexico
00:59:42.560 and shipping them
00:59:43.140 over the border
00:59:43.580 and assembling them here?
00:59:44.920 Why can't we just
00:59:45.580 build the whole thing here?
00:59:46.740 Yes, it'll cost
00:59:47.480 a little bit more,
00:59:48.720 but you know what?
00:59:49.280 These automakers
00:59:50.060 and all these people
00:59:50.700 are making plenty of money
00:59:51.740 where they can afford
00:59:52.680 to pay these guys
00:59:53.320 an extra five bucks
00:59:54.100 an hour,
00:59:54.900 an extra ten bucks
00:59:55.620 an hour.
00:59:56.360 Figure it out.
00:59:57.020 Cut your cost
00:59:57.520 somewhere else.
00:59:58.740 Don't cut it
00:59:59.180 on the backs
01:00:00.080 of the American people.
01:00:01.080 And I think
01:00:02.300 if President Trump
01:00:03.520 and his team
01:00:04.260 and these private companies
01:00:05.740 relay the messaging
01:00:06.660 to people that way,
01:00:08.760 if these private companies
01:00:09.900 come out
01:00:10.320 and say Jeep,
01:00:11.960 I recently bought
01:00:13.360 a Jeep Wrangler
01:00:14.020 and parts of it
01:00:16.180 are assembled
01:00:16.660 in Mexico.
01:00:17.540 But if Jeep
01:00:18.400 comes out
01:00:18.820 and says
01:00:19.400 to the consumer,
01:00:20.700 listen,
01:00:21.820 it used to be
01:00:22.440 assembled in Mexico,
01:00:23.160 it's an extra one percent,
01:00:24.620 it's an extra two percent,
01:00:26.020 but it was assembled
01:00:27.580 here in America.
01:00:28.320 It was made here
01:00:28.860 in America.
01:00:29.560 Every part
01:00:30.260 was touched
01:00:30.740 by an American
01:00:31.580 in a manufacturer
01:00:33.580 here in America.
01:00:35.420 I would have
01:00:36.100 no problem
01:00:36.600 paying an extra one percent.
01:00:37.640 You know why?
01:00:38.020 Or two percent
01:00:38.560 or three percent
01:00:39.560 because I don't buy
01:00:40.300 a car every year.
01:00:41.020 I don't buy a car
01:00:41.560 every six months.
01:00:42.260 We buy cars
01:00:42.840 every four or five years
01:00:44.100 or whatever.
01:00:44.580 You lease a car
01:00:45.200 every four or five years.
01:00:47.460 So if you explain
01:00:48.400 it to the American
01:00:49.020 person that way,
01:00:51.280 the average person
01:00:53.520 is not going to mind
01:00:54.700 paying an extra
01:00:55.920 little bit
01:00:56.440 to know
01:00:57.080 that they're putting
01:00:57.980 money back
01:00:58.560 into the pockets.
01:00:59.640 Blue collar workers
01:01:00.360 when they go to the stores
01:01:01.100 and buy tools,
01:01:01.820 it's the same thing
01:01:02.780 with them.
01:01:04.280 You know,
01:01:04.820 they're buying things
01:01:05.680 to put money back
01:01:07.000 in the pockets
01:01:07.480 of the American people.
01:01:08.680 And if the messaging
01:01:09.280 is there
01:01:09.740 and it's explained
01:01:10.940 to the voter
01:01:11.460 and it's explained
01:01:12.040 to the person
01:01:12.620 that way,
01:01:13.940 I don't think
01:01:14.900 you have an issue.
01:01:15.500 Now,
01:01:15.640 I don't know
01:01:16.100 what the percentage
01:01:16.740 raise is going to be.
01:01:17.980 Nobody really knows.
01:01:19.580 It's probably going
01:01:20.700 to be more expensive
01:01:21.580 because it's made here
01:01:22.880 in America
01:01:23.500 with American labor,
01:01:24.320 but that's fine
01:01:25.400 because we're employing
01:01:26.680 our own people.
01:01:28.100 We're employing
01:01:28.880 our brothers,
01:01:29.520 our sisters,
01:01:30.120 our cousins,
01:01:30.680 our aunts,
01:01:31.140 our uncles,
01:01:32.280 the future of America.
01:01:34.460 And you know what?
01:01:35.280 In the long run,
01:01:36.120 you know,
01:01:36.520 as I've said
01:01:37.080 throughout the shows
01:01:38.000 this week,
01:01:38.820 America is going
01:01:39.320 to be far better off
01:01:40.220 when we can bring jobs back.
01:01:42.360 You guys remember
01:01:43.240 what happened.
01:01:44.620 And this is all
01:01:45.580 off the cuff,
01:01:46.100 by the way.
01:01:46.640 You know,
01:01:46.840 this is not rehearsed
01:01:47.660 or anything like that.
01:01:48.780 I'm just giving you
01:01:49.640 my opinion
01:01:50.260 on the way I see it.
01:01:51.260 And I think
01:01:51.660 the average American
01:01:52.760 sees it.
01:01:53.260 You guys remember
01:01:54.460 what happened
01:01:54.940 during COVID
01:01:55.480 when we couldn't
01:01:56.080 get gowns.
01:01:57.300 We couldn't
01:01:58.120 get pharmaceuticals.
01:02:00.100 We couldn't
01:02:00.640 get masks
01:02:01.500 because China,
01:02:02.820 whereas President Trump
01:02:03.440 likes to call them
01:02:03.980 China,
01:02:04.800 held it over our heads.
01:02:06.280 They wouldn't send masks.
01:02:07.300 They wouldn't send gowns.
01:02:08.540 Then we couldn't
01:02:09.220 get our pharmaceuticals
01:02:11.300 because they're made
01:02:12.320 in India.
01:02:12.880 They're made in China.
01:02:14.480 Over 85%
01:02:15.640 of our pharmaceuticals.
01:02:16.420 Why can't we
01:02:17.100 onshore that
01:02:17.640 back into America?
01:02:19.040 I mean,
01:02:19.360 that in itself
01:02:20.280 is absurd
01:02:20.760 to even think about
01:02:21.640 that we have to rely
01:02:23.260 on two adversaries,
01:02:25.520 possibly,
01:02:26.220 China and India,
01:02:27.500 for life-saving
01:02:28.860 pharmaceuticals.
01:02:30.500 Who put us
01:02:31.380 in that position
01:02:32.040 in the first place?
01:02:33.800 Which president
01:02:34.400 was it?
01:02:35.640 Because it's now
01:02:36.240 Donald Trump's job
01:02:37.020 to get us out of it,
01:02:37.720 and he has no problem.
01:02:38.900 He has no problem
01:02:39.880 taking the hits.
01:02:40.760 He has no problem
01:02:41.500 with the stock market
01:02:42.700 taking a momentary hit
01:02:43.860 to onshore things
01:02:45.960 back to America,
01:02:46.800 to get our Americans
01:02:47.580 back to work.
01:02:48.980 It's common sense,
01:02:49.900 folks.
01:02:50.600 It really is common sense.
01:02:52.380 Think about that
01:02:52.980 next time you go
01:02:53.520 to the store
01:02:53.940 and you go to buy
01:02:54.560 something where it's made.
01:02:56.900 I try to,
01:02:57.740 as much as I possibly can,
01:02:59.340 buy things that are
01:03:00.140 made here in America.
01:03:00.900 Now, there's some things
01:03:01.520 that we'll never be able
01:03:02.780 to make here in America,
01:03:03.840 such as textiles.
01:03:06.240 Your suits you get in Italy
01:03:07.420 or your dress shirts
01:03:08.360 you get in Italy
01:03:08.960 and T-shirts are made
01:03:10.580 in Taiwan or Thailand
01:03:12.340 or China or wherever
01:03:13.440 they make them.
01:03:14.380 There's things like that
01:03:15.060 that are never going to be
01:03:16.180 made back here in America
01:03:18.200 because it'll be far
01:03:19.000 too expensive.
01:03:19.660 And I understand that.
01:03:21.360 But if we can bring back
01:03:22.840 50% of what we're making
01:03:24.480 overseas,
01:03:25.200 we'll be better off.
01:03:27.220 The American consumer
01:03:28.140 will be better off.
01:03:28.740 We'll all be far better off.
01:03:31.580 But you need to think
01:03:32.500 about that as you go
01:03:33.340 to the stores.
01:03:35.900 A spot of shade.
01:03:37.580 The higher price of steel
01:03:38.460 and aluminum are offset
01:03:39.220 by the lower taxes
01:03:40.160 that the corporations
01:03:40.960 will pay,
01:03:41.760 so you won't see a rising
01:03:42.780 car manufacturing price.
01:03:44.040 You're absolutely right.
01:03:44.900 The problem is
01:03:46.280 you also have here
01:03:47.460 in America,
01:03:47.940 you have greedy corporations,
01:03:49.440 you have greedy companies,
01:03:50.400 and you have,
01:03:50.980 it's the same reason
01:03:51.840 I use this example
01:03:52.780 all the time.
01:03:54.080 Here in New York City,
01:03:55.240 if you go to a restaurant
01:03:56.260 and you get a Caesar salad,
01:03:57.900 it shouldn't be $15 or $20
01:03:59.840 to get a Caesar salad.
01:04:02.740 Ahead of romaine,
01:04:03.620 now I understand
01:04:04.580 your overhead cost,
01:04:05.760 ahead of romaine
01:04:06.480 at wholesale prices
01:04:07.440 say 75 cents
01:04:10.480 with the portion
01:04:11.460 that you're getting.
01:04:12.520 The cost to make the sauce
01:04:13.840 is, say another,
01:04:14.860 we'll be conservative,
01:04:15.860 75 cents.
01:04:17.100 You're at $1.50.
01:04:18.180 Now you do your labor costs
01:04:19.460 and you owe that guy
01:04:20.360 in the kitchen
01:04:20.920 a dollar for making it.
01:04:23.560 Okay?
01:04:24.340 So you're at $2.50 now.
01:04:25.500 We'll round it up
01:04:26.020 to three bucks
01:04:26.660 for electricity
01:04:27.700 for making that Caesar salad.
01:04:31.480 So you have three bucks.
01:04:33.220 Okay, you're entitled
01:04:34.180 to make 100%.
01:04:35.060 You're entitled
01:04:35.460 to make 200%.
01:04:36.540 But charging $15
01:04:37.780 or $20 for that salad,
01:04:39.640 there's no justification.
01:04:40.540 So you're going
01:04:41.360 to have price gougers.
01:04:42.620 I mean, you have them
01:04:43.160 everywhere
01:04:43.640 in every single industry.
01:04:47.300 But as a spot of shade
01:04:50.020 said in the rumble chat,
01:04:51.680 the fair portion of it
01:04:54.320 will offset
01:04:55.000 by the tax cuts
01:04:56.280 that President Trump
01:04:56.940 is going to give
01:04:57.380 to corporations.
01:04:58.800 You guys heard this week,
01:04:59.760 President Trump
01:05:00.220 wants to cut
01:05:00.700 the income tax
01:05:02.320 on people making
01:05:02.880 under $150,000 a year.
01:05:05.820 Okay?
01:05:07.000 That's money
01:05:07.660 that's going to come back
01:05:08.480 into the economy.
01:05:09.420 If you put more money
01:05:10.200 in the pockets
01:05:11.540 of the people
01:05:12.140 under a stable economy.
01:05:14.280 Now, in the economic issues
01:05:16.000 we're in right now,
01:05:17.380 which is why I don't agree
01:05:18.480 with the $5,000 doge checks,
01:05:20.480 if you give somebody money,
01:05:22.040 they're probably
01:05:22.660 not going to put it
01:05:23.460 back in the economy.
01:05:24.220 They're maybe going to save it
01:05:25.120 or spend it on something stupid
01:05:26.500 depending on who
01:05:27.440 you're giving it to.
01:05:29.240 But once you start,
01:05:30.520 you know,
01:05:30.800 getting this economy
01:05:31.420 back on track
01:05:32.240 and the news of the week
01:05:34.880 is that Joe Biden
01:05:35.740 spent an extra
01:05:36.360 few hundred billion dollars
01:05:37.740 into the economy
01:05:39.020 before he left office
01:05:40.300 as an added stimulus
01:05:42.820 to knowing that
01:05:44.160 Donald Trump
01:05:44.600 was eventually
01:05:45.020 going to have to cut it
01:05:45.760 and harm the economy,
01:05:47.280 which is maybe also
01:05:49.060 what we're seeing right now
01:05:50.180 with this tumultuous markets.
01:05:53.840 So everything's eventually
01:05:56.120 going to offset.
01:05:57.460 If you take the payroll tax
01:05:58.840 away from the guy
01:05:59.340 making $150,000 a year,
01:06:00.420 he's going to put the money
01:06:01.180 back into the economy.
01:06:02.200 You'll get the money that way.
01:06:03.060 You'll get the money on tariffs.
01:06:04.580 It's very simple.
01:06:05.460 If these countries
01:06:06.200 don't want tariffs
01:06:06.920 on themselves,
01:06:08.020 take the tariffs off us.
01:06:10.880 That's the thing
01:06:11.620 that people don't realize
01:06:12.640 is these countries
01:06:13.340 have tariffs on us.
01:06:17.400 Raising the price
01:06:20.280 and tariffs on whiskey
01:06:21.160 over in France
01:06:22.620 or in Europe.
01:06:23.980 So President Trump says,
01:06:24.860 OK, that's fine.
01:06:25.440 200% raised now
01:06:26.540 on champagne and cheese.
01:06:28.380 Deal with it.
01:06:29.980 The thing is,
01:06:30.940 is you also hear me
01:06:32.300 often say this
01:06:33.000 on the show
01:06:33.440 is that these countries
01:06:35.060 are like silent torturers.
01:06:36.880 You know,
01:06:37.020 they do everything in silence
01:06:38.080 because they don't want
01:06:38.880 the people to know
01:06:39.740 how bad they really are.
01:06:41.140 It's like the World Economic Forum,
01:06:42.900 World Health Organization.
01:06:43.780 They do everything in silence.
01:06:44.880 They move in silence
01:06:45.540 and they don't broadcast anything
01:06:46.740 because they don't want
01:06:47.620 the people to have
01:06:48.180 a bad perspective,
01:06:49.520 a perception of them.
01:06:52.900 But Donald Trump doesn't care.
01:06:55.360 Donald Trump doesn't care.
01:06:56.780 He puts everything out
01:06:57.700 in the public domain
01:06:58.520 for the American people
01:06:59.600 to know what's going on.
01:07:02.060 And he tells it that way,
01:07:03.560 which is why,
01:07:04.440 you know,
01:07:06.140 you have people going crazy.
01:07:08.640 It's why, you know,
01:07:09.560 you have the Marxist leftists
01:07:10.860 going absolutely berserk.
01:07:13.640 But there's tariffs on us
01:07:14.860 from France.
01:07:17.100 There's tariffs on us
01:07:17.940 from all these other countries,
01:07:20.540 UK, Canada.
01:07:23.060 There's tariffs on us,
01:07:24.200 but the people don't know
01:07:25.380 because, like I say,
01:07:26.640 they're silent torturers.
01:07:28.420 They get away with it.
01:07:29.900 Donald Trump doesn't care.
01:07:30.780 He puts it out there
01:07:31.360 in the public domain
01:07:32.160 for all to see
01:07:33.120 and you guys make
01:07:33.740 your judgment yourself.
01:07:34.680 You know,
01:07:35.360 he doesn't care
01:07:36.120 really what the other people think.
01:07:39.580 He is truly America first.
01:07:42.780 You know,
01:07:43.580 he's a peacemaker.
01:07:44.780 He's a dealmaker.
01:07:45.980 You see what happened this week
01:07:47.500 with Russia and Ukraine.
01:07:49.760 He puts together a peace deal.
01:07:51.340 Ukraine now all of a sudden
01:07:52.320 in favor of a peace deal.
01:07:54.400 Donald Trump talks,
01:07:55.580 I guess,
01:07:55.940 presumably talks to Vladimir Putin.
01:07:57.740 And says,
01:07:58.600 let's get this deal done.
01:08:00.060 And Vladimir Putin says,
01:08:01.420 yeah, that's fine.
01:08:02.140 We'll do a temporary ceasefire.
01:08:03.460 I'm skeptical of it,
01:08:04.580 but I want something permanent.
01:08:07.320 For those of you guys
01:08:08.160 who joined us the other night
01:08:08.960 when I did a whole segment
01:08:09.860 on NATO
01:08:11.520 and what we've done,
01:08:14.280 we've pretty much gotten
01:08:15.720 Ukraine into this war.
01:08:17.800 I mean,
01:08:18.020 they've gotten themselves into it,
01:08:19.280 but we've helped stoke the fire.
01:08:21.020 Since 1990,
01:08:22.500 we've continued to add countries
01:08:24.520 to NATO.
01:08:25.580 Adding, adding,
01:08:26.520 adding, adding,
01:08:27.180 and adding
01:08:27.640 up until
01:08:28.800 2023
01:08:29.800 and
01:08:31.340 2022
01:08:32.720 with Finland
01:08:33.320 and Denmark.
01:08:36.820 We've gotten them
01:08:37.580 into this war.
01:08:38.320 We've continued
01:08:38.760 to add countries
01:08:39.400 into NATO.
01:08:40.280 James Baker
01:08:40.860 made a deal
01:08:41.480 with Mikhail Gorbachev
01:08:42.380 in 1990
01:08:43.000 that they would not
01:08:44.400 move further east
01:08:45.460 than Germany.
01:08:46.960 They did just the opposite.
01:08:48.500 They continued
01:08:49.060 to push
01:08:49.600 and push
01:08:50.240 and push.
01:08:51.460 And Vladimir Putin
01:08:52.420 bitched and complained
01:08:53.180 about it all along the way.
01:08:54.440 Like, you guys lied to me.
01:08:55.900 You guys lied to me.
01:08:56.780 You guys lied to me.
01:08:57.660 In 2007,
01:08:58.520 came out and said it publicly.
01:08:59.680 You guys lied to me.
01:09:00.560 You said you were never
01:09:01.180 pushing further east.
01:09:02.900 And all you guys
01:09:04.040 have continued to do
01:09:04.900 in NATO
01:09:05.220 is continue to push east.
01:09:07.640 So he had enough.
01:09:10.620 We're literally
01:09:11.360 pushing towards
01:09:12.400 putting weapons
01:09:12.960 on his border
01:09:13.560 when we told him
01:09:15.380 30 plus years ago
01:09:18.040 that that was it.
01:09:19.780 Yet we've continued
01:09:20.620 to break the deal
01:09:21.340 along the way
01:09:21.880 each and every time
01:09:23.140 we add another country
01:09:24.140 to NATO.
01:09:26.960 So who's to blame?
01:09:28.800 Is it Vladimir Putin's
01:09:29.960 fault for having enough?
01:09:32.080 And Zelensky?
01:09:33.380 Now, it's a whole situation.
01:09:35.260 It's a lot more complex
01:09:36.020 than that.
01:09:36.480 But after the failed
01:09:38.260 Afghanistan withdrawal,
01:09:41.140 Vladimir Putin says,
01:09:42.180 oh, well, you know what?
01:09:42.820 The United States
01:09:43.300 is probably not going
01:09:43.980 to do anything.
01:09:44.500 So I'm going to go
01:09:45.060 into Ukraine
01:09:45.480 and take back my territory.
01:09:47.020 Now, at the same time,
01:09:48.340 Zelensky's saying,
01:09:49.740 well, we want to be in NATO.
01:09:51.780 So now he's
01:09:52.260 stoking that fire.
01:09:53.820 And what is Vladimir Putin
01:09:55.060 supposed to think?
01:09:55.920 Now, the Marxist left
01:09:57.400 will say,
01:09:57.880 I'm a Russian agent.
01:09:59.160 I'm a Russian this.
01:10:00.220 I'm a Russian that.
01:10:00.820 Or anyone who speaks
01:10:01.560 the way I'm speaking
01:10:02.120 right now is a Russian agent.
01:10:03.240 I've never been to Russia.
01:10:04.400 I've maybe had one
01:10:06.140 or two Russian friends
01:10:06.860 in my life.
01:10:07.380 I have no association
01:10:08.120 with Russia.
01:10:08.960 To the best of my knowledge,
01:10:09.960 I've never taken
01:10:10.540 a payment from Russia,
01:10:12.000 any sort of advertising money
01:10:13.900 from Russia
01:10:14.340 or anything like that.
01:10:15.480 This is just me
01:10:16.160 speaking as a layman
01:10:17.020 and speaking on
01:10:18.980 the weeks and weeks
01:10:21.440 of research
01:10:21.980 that I've done on this.
01:10:23.760 So,
01:10:25.120 Zelensky says
01:10:25.700 he wants in NATO.
01:10:27.380 So, what is he supposed
01:10:28.580 to think now?
01:10:29.540 For the last
01:10:30.200 30 plus years,
01:10:32.180 America's lied to him,
01:10:33.400 NATO has lied to him,
01:10:34.780 and continued to push
01:10:35.700 further east
01:10:36.300 towards his country.
01:10:38.260 Zelensky calls
01:10:39.100 and says,
01:10:39.460 I want in NATO.
01:10:41.400 Is Putin supposed
01:10:42.400 to sit back
01:10:43.220 and say,
01:10:43.640 that's fine,
01:10:44.940 continue to push up
01:10:46.280 inside of my country,
01:10:48.680 on the borders
01:10:49.100 of my country?
01:10:50.680 Is he supposed
01:10:51.560 to sit back
01:10:52.180 and lay down
01:10:52.660 taking it?
01:10:53.820 I don't know
01:10:54.580 any world leader
01:10:55.540 with a pair
01:10:56.520 who's going to do that.
01:10:58.020 As a president
01:10:58.860 of a country,
01:10:59.560 you have the right
01:11:00.500 and you have the duty
01:11:01.840 to protect the sanctuary
01:11:04.240 and safety
01:11:05.520 of your country.
01:11:07.960 So,
01:11:08.460 who's to say
01:11:08.960 at any given point
01:11:09.820 Ukraine gets into NATO
01:11:11.220 and wants to start
01:11:11.800 a war with Russia?
01:11:12.980 Now,
01:11:13.220 all of a sudden,
01:11:14.440 it's like a game
01:11:15.580 of Stratego,
01:11:16.320 where you've got
01:11:16.980 your country
01:11:18.960 surrounded
01:11:19.620 by an army
01:11:21.700 of 30 different countries.
01:11:25.020 So,
01:11:25.640 what was Vladimir Putin
01:11:26.460 supposed to do?
01:11:27.580 Was he supposed
01:11:28.160 to just lay down
01:11:28.940 and take it,
01:11:30.040 as I just said?
01:11:31.420 Or was he supposed
01:11:32.360 to defend his country
01:11:33.280 as you're supposed
01:11:34.780 to do as president?
01:11:35.660 Now,
01:11:35.840 I don't,
01:11:36.440 I'm not sycophanting
01:11:38.260 for Vladimir Putin.
01:11:40.080 I'm not saying
01:11:40.820 he's a good guy
01:11:41.560 by any means,
01:11:42.400 I'm saying
01:11:43.260 looking at it
01:11:43.880 from a perspective,
01:11:45.300 an independent perspective,
01:11:46.600 because I think
01:11:47.960 in the beginning
01:11:48.380 we were all
01:11:49.120 in favor of Ukraine.
01:11:50.220 We were all
01:11:50.560 in favor of protecting Ukraine
01:11:51.800 because we didn't realize
01:11:53.380 what was really happening.
01:11:54.720 So,
01:11:55.900 I think in the beginning
01:11:56.520 we were all
01:11:57.200 in favor of it,
01:11:58.120 but then as time
01:11:59.060 went on
01:11:59.660 and you see
01:12:00.880 what's happening
01:12:01.500 and the fire
01:12:03.180 stoking
01:12:03.580 and the billions
01:12:04.680 of dollars
01:12:05.260 being poured
01:12:06.080 into this war
01:12:06.860 and the people
01:12:08.180 dying
01:12:08.760 and dying
01:12:09.360 and dying,
01:12:10.780 and then you start
01:12:11.500 hearing that Ukraine's
01:12:12.420 winning this war,
01:12:13.340 which was never true,
01:12:15.400 not even possible
01:12:16.500 to be true.
01:12:17.660 And you've got guys
01:12:18.660 like Doug McGregor
01:12:19.480 I've had on this show
01:12:20.340 come out and say that,
01:12:21.180 and he's accused
01:12:22.040 of being a Russian agent.
01:12:23.300 No,
01:12:23.740 it's speaking at it
01:12:24.740 as a layman,
01:12:25.600 as a professional,
01:12:26.440 as someone
01:12:27.200 who's seen this before.
01:12:29.300 But no,
01:12:29.960 you're automatically
01:12:30.500 a Russian agent.
01:12:31.400 You work for Russia.
01:12:32.420 You're an agent of Russia
01:12:33.400 and there's no
01:12:35.840 ifs,
01:12:36.080 ands,
01:12:36.240 or buts about it.
01:12:37.460 So now
01:12:37.880 Putin is okay
01:12:41.900 with the ceasefire.
01:12:43.340 Okay,
01:12:43.660 but he wants
01:12:44.040 the long-term one.
01:12:45.320 Zelensky's saying
01:12:46.060 now we won't
01:12:46.900 recognize any Russian
01:12:48.880 territory
01:12:49.420 that you've taken for us.
01:12:50.520 So this man
01:12:51.620 continues to
01:12:52.560 be like the little,
01:12:54.560 he's like the little chihuahua.
01:12:56.580 And you've got
01:12:56.880 a little chihuahua
01:12:57.760 who's sitting
01:12:58.420 behind a glass door
01:12:59.380 of your house
01:13:00.540 behind a screen
01:13:01.320 and the big old
01:13:02.920 pit bull pulls up
01:13:03.860 or the St. Bernard
01:13:04.620 pulls up
01:13:05.220 and that little chihuahua
01:13:06.860 just keeps barking
01:13:07.720 because he knows
01:13:08.440 there's a door
01:13:08.980 in between the two of them
01:13:10.020 and he ain't ever
01:13:11.040 getting them.
01:13:11.780 And the door swings out
01:13:12.920 so the pit bull
01:13:13.960 can't push in.
01:13:15.740 That's exactly
01:13:16.540 what Zelensky's doing
01:13:17.400 because he knows
01:13:17.980 he's going to get away
01:13:18.560 with it.
01:13:19.300 He knows nations
01:13:20.120 like the UK
01:13:21.220 he knows the European Union
01:13:23.100 are all going to protect him.
01:13:26.160 That's why he's doing it.
01:13:27.580 So he's going to sit there
01:13:28.640 and run his mouth
01:13:29.200 but the only problem is
01:13:30.160 America's not
01:13:31.540 on his side anymore
01:13:32.400 and it's not just
01:13:33.640 Donald Trump
01:13:34.180 and the administration
01:13:34.860 it's the American people.
01:13:37.640 You go look at
01:13:38.660 the numbers
01:13:39.400 of the people
01:13:40.280 who have
01:13:40.820 support for Ukraine
01:13:42.560 and support for Zelensky
01:13:44.100 they're going
01:13:45.560 through the floor
01:13:46.220 and they're going
01:13:46.960 quick
01:13:47.580 and Donald Trump's
01:13:48.900 approval rating
01:13:49.420 is going
01:13:49.760 the opposite way
01:13:50.780 because I think
01:13:52.220 people for the first time
01:13:53.480 are opening their eyes
01:13:55.040 to what has been
01:13:55.900 fed to us
01:13:56.640 the deception
01:13:57.240 that has been
01:13:57.740 fed to us
01:13:58.400 the lies
01:13:59.680 that have been
01:14:00.060 fed to us
01:14:00.580 and we've continued
01:14:01.280 to stoke this war
01:14:02.620 with innocent Ukrainians
01:14:04.740 dying.
01:14:06.480 Why?
01:14:08.040 Why are we doing that?
01:14:09.620 We don't have enough
01:14:10.420 problems here at home
01:14:11.540 all the issues
01:14:13.340 we have here at home
01:14:14.120 I say it every day
01:14:15.920 we have a war
01:14:16.960 that needs to be
01:14:17.480 fought right here
01:14:18.040 at home
01:14:18.300 and it's on our
01:14:18.760 southern border
01:14:19.360 and you know what
01:14:20.460 it's the first time
01:14:21.220 we can win a war
01:14:21.880 since maybe World War II
01:14:22.900 it's a war
01:14:24.460 that we can win
01:14:25.080 and it's a war
01:14:25.700 that's worth having
01:14:26.460 because hundreds
01:14:27.780 they say 100,000
01:14:29.540 people die every year
01:14:30.400 of a drug overdose
01:14:31.100 it's hundreds of thousands
01:14:32.300 because that 100,000
01:14:34.100 only takes into account
01:14:35.260 the people who are
01:14:35.880 autopsied
01:14:36.500 that you can prove
01:14:37.520 died of a drug overdose
01:14:38.440 it doesn't take into account
01:14:39.780 the probably hundreds
01:14:41.420 of other thousands
01:14:42.200 who never get
01:14:43.360 autopsied
01:14:43.980 the people who never
01:14:46.280 find out how their kids
01:14:47.340 really died
01:14:47.800 because they knew
01:14:48.460 it was a drug overdose
01:14:49.620 but they never cared
01:14:50.500 to do an autopsy
01:14:51.420 because they wanted
01:14:51.940 to get it over with
01:14:52.720 and bury their loved one
01:14:55.140 hundreds of thousands
01:14:56.780 it shouldn't even be
01:14:57.940 one person
01:14:58.580 but that's a war
01:15:00.260 that's worth fighting
01:15:00.940 that's a war
01:15:01.480 that's worth going
01:15:02.280 to fight
01:15:02.740 against the drug cartels
01:15:04.140 and putting some weapons
01:15:06.220 on them
01:15:06.740 and launching some drones
01:15:08.700 on them
01:15:09.160 on these drug facilities
01:15:10.760 these underground tunnels
01:15:12.120 these bunkers
01:15:12.880 that these people
01:15:14.240 and you see
01:15:14.980 they know
01:15:15.640 Donald Trump
01:15:16.180 is coming
01:15:16.600 the New York Times
01:15:17.500 had an interview
01:15:18.000 last week
01:15:19.120 with a drug cartelman
01:15:20.120 and he's terrified
01:15:21.480 the man said
01:15:22.260 he doesn't leave
01:15:22.840 his house anymore
01:15:23.560 because he's scared
01:15:25.000 that he's going to be lit up
01:15:26.040 once he leaves the house
01:15:26.880 and I think that's
01:15:27.800 what needs to be happening
01:15:28.620 now I'm not saying
01:15:29.180 boots on the ground
01:15:29.800 in Mexico
01:15:30.200 but if he sent in
01:15:31.680 a few drones
01:15:32.400 I mean hell
01:15:33.440 we had no problem
01:15:34.160 using a sidewinder missile
01:15:36.020 a few hundred thousand dollars
01:15:37.620 sidewinder missile
01:15:38.400 to take down
01:15:38.940 that damn balloon
01:15:39.540 from China
01:15:40.000 after it traveled
01:15:41.000 over the whole continent
01:15:41.940 to the United States
01:15:42.960 we finally shoot it down
01:15:44.400 off the coast
01:15:44.900 of Myrtle Beach
01:15:46.740 and those things
01:15:48.320 are about I think
01:15:48.780 seven hundred thousand dollars
01:15:49.940 seven hundred fifty thousand dollars
01:15:51.340 we had no problem
01:15:53.000 doing that
01:15:53.740 let's send some missiles
01:15:55.800 into these drug factories
01:15:56.940 what is Mexico
01:15:58.440 going to do
01:15:58.840 the problem is
01:16:00.100 is Mexico's government
01:16:01.200 kind of has their hands tied
01:16:02.280 because if they go
01:16:03.020 after the drug cartels
01:16:03.880 these guys are ruthless
01:16:05.080 they go to kill their families
01:16:06.560 they kill everyone
01:16:07.160 that's associated with them
01:16:08.180 and they run everything
01:16:10.040 in a lot of cases
01:16:10.980 there's money being
01:16:12.520 kicked back
01:16:13.080 and funneled
01:16:14.680 to these presidents
01:16:16.240 so yes
01:16:18.000 their hands are tied
01:16:18.860 but they're part
01:16:21.920 of the corruption
01:16:22.340 as well
01:16:22.940 Kelly Song
01:16:25.200 the criminals need
01:16:25.900 to be made afraid
01:16:26.560 of the consequences
01:16:27.240 of their action
01:16:27.840 yeah you're absolutely right
01:16:28.920 you're absolutely right
01:16:31.500 and we may finally
01:16:34.600 see it happen
01:16:35.280 with Donald Trump
01:16:36.020 as our president
01:16:36.660 because it's never
01:16:38.940 been done before
01:16:39.580 these folks
01:16:40.980 we've never put hands
01:16:41.760 on any of these people
01:16:42.600 they've been allowed
01:16:44.100 to do whatever they want
01:16:45.020 human traffic
01:16:45.840 drug traffic
01:16:46.580 whatever they want
01:16:47.960 and I've only talked
01:16:49.020 about the drug trafficking
01:16:49.820 and I haven't even started
01:16:50.900 on the human trafficking
01:16:51.880 that's for a whole
01:16:52.460 different day
01:16:53.040 but I mean
01:16:53.980 they're literally
01:16:54.400 human trafficking
01:16:55.120 women and children
01:16:56.340 raped along the way
01:16:58.760 there's nothing
01:17:01.140 hyperbolic about this
01:17:02.340 this is what it is
01:17:03.420 but our politicians
01:17:04.980 have allowed this to happen
01:17:06.120 because we've turned
01:17:06.940 over operational control
01:17:08.100 of our southern border
01:17:09.280 to the Mexicans
01:17:09.980 to the Mexican cartels
01:17:11.720 we've turned over control
01:17:13.680 they run the border
01:17:14.680 they own the border
01:17:15.640 whatever they want
01:17:16.780 comes through
01:17:17.340 and vice versa
01:17:19.040 whatever they want
01:17:19.560 to bring to the other
01:17:20.120 side goes through
01:17:20.780 and we don't do
01:17:21.360 anything about it
01:17:22.020 some of these people
01:17:23.240 I'm told
01:17:24.540 by people
01:17:25.520 who have actually paid
01:17:26.940 are paying
01:17:27.860 $25,000 and $30,000
01:17:29.180 upwards
01:17:30.760 even to $40,000
01:17:32.220 to come from Mexico
01:17:33.980 to America
01:17:35.240 and that's the cartels
01:17:37.200 getting these money
01:17:37.740 now you do the math folks
01:17:38.900 under Joe Biden
01:17:39.860 you had thousands of them
01:17:41.300 coming through a day
01:17:42.040 so even at $1,000 a day
01:17:44.540 at $40,000 a person
01:17:46.840 you do that math
01:17:48.040 these people don't even
01:17:50.280 need to sell drugs
01:17:51.100 because they make enough
01:17:51.840 money on human trafficking
01:17:52.880 but it's just so easy
01:17:54.960 for them to continue
01:17:55.840 to push their drugs
01:17:56.660 and sell their drugs
01:17:57.540 that they say
01:17:58.540 hell why not
01:17:59.160 let's do it
01:17:59.940 we've got a double
01:18:01.060 end business here
01:18:02.620 let's sell drugs
01:18:03.760 and human traffic
01:18:04.600 why not
01:18:05.920 we'll get away with it
01:18:06.800 let's continue to do it
01:18:08.160 so that's the issue
01:18:10.620 and the reason why
01:18:12.040 as you heard me say before
01:18:13.820 before getting into media
01:18:15.800 I spent years
01:18:16.360 running political campaigns
01:18:17.380 and one of the guys
01:18:19.780 I worked for
01:18:20.320 was a congressman
01:18:21.280 he said to me
01:18:21.940 think about it
01:18:22.640 if you fix all the problems
01:18:24.540 what are you going to run on
01:18:26.080 when you run for your
01:18:27.740 re-election next time
01:18:28.880 and it's true
01:18:29.920 it's the reason why
01:18:31.260 President Bush
01:18:31.860 never fixed the border
01:18:32.740 because then the Republicans
01:18:35.520 can never run on again
01:18:36.440 and it's the same way
01:18:37.720 the Democrats
01:18:38.280 don't want the poor
01:18:39.580 out of poverty
01:18:40.380 because if they get out
01:18:42.120 of poverty
01:18:42.560 and they realize
01:18:43.420 the wealth that can be
01:18:44.840 made out there
01:18:45.500 they'll never vote
01:18:47.060 Democrat again
01:18:47.800 and that was another thing
01:18:48.980 that was taught to me
01:18:49.600 by this congressman
01:18:50.520 that I used to work for
01:18:51.200 if you take the people
01:18:53.280 out of the ghetto
01:18:54.060 if you take these people
01:18:55.020 out of the projects
01:18:55.940 and they realize
01:18:57.740 the lies that they've
01:18:58.980 been fed
01:18:59.460 for the last
01:19:00.200 however many years
01:19:00.940 they've been living there
01:19:01.660 they'll never vote
01:19:03.100 Democrat again
01:19:03.900 and truer words
01:19:05.860 have never been spoken
01:19:06.580 and you see it
01:19:07.980 firsthand
01:19:08.320 but this time around
01:19:09.700 folks
01:19:10.120 in this election
01:19:11.240 2024
01:19:11.720 was the first time
01:19:14.320 you saw
01:19:15.820 these people
01:19:17.240 realize
01:19:17.980 that the Democrats
01:19:19.140 have been feeding them
01:19:19.880 lies for years
01:19:21.060 literally for years
01:19:23.080 but they're finally
01:19:25.600 waking up
01:19:26.080 I think
01:19:26.420 I think Americans
01:19:27.100 are finally waking up
01:19:28.240 to you know
01:19:31.080 the reality
01:19:31.860 of what's going on here
01:19:33.600 and what's going on
01:19:34.220 in this country
01:19:34.720 so that's it
01:19:37.620 for us tonight
01:19:38.260 I think we're
01:19:39.780 taking off tomorrow
01:19:40.700 we're heading over
01:19:42.940 to Ireland
01:19:43.420 for a few days
01:19:44.500 to celebrate
01:19:45.060 the holiday
01:19:45.620 maybe go visit
01:19:47.740 Rosie O'Donald
01:19:48.540 see how she's doing
01:19:50.020 how her mental health
01:19:50.840 is doing
01:19:51.280 hopefully she's doing
01:19:53.920 better over there
01:19:54.460 because she wasn't
01:19:54.940 doing well
01:19:55.400 in America
01:19:56.040 a few times
01:19:57.380 you see her
01:19:57.820 open wounds
01:19:59.540 all over her face
01:20:00.240 and all that
01:20:01.220 nasty stuff
01:20:02.260 so
01:20:03.220 we'll see you back here
01:20:05.000 very very soon
01:20:07.260 I hope you guys
01:20:08.760 all have a great night
01:20:09.820 have a great weekend
01:20:11.780 and we'll see you back here
01:20:13.640 as I said
01:20:14.140 very very soon
01:20:15.380 I think
01:20:15.900 I think we'll probably
01:20:16.880 see you on Monday
01:20:17.420 so have a great one folks
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01:21:12.000 have a great weekend
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01:21:16.460 you
01:21:17.020 you
01:21:19.180 you
01:21:19.860 you
01:21:20.780 you
01:21:20.880 you
01:21:21.460 you
01:21:23.900 you
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