The Great America Show - March 25, 2022


HAVE GLOBALISTS USED VIRUS TO CREATE NEW WORLD ORDER？


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00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. This is Lou Dobbs. The Russian forces surrounding Kiev are digging in,
00:00:06.260 preparing defenses against increasingly successful counterattacks and assaults by the Ukrainian
00:00:12.540 military and resistance. 100,000 Ukrainians remain trapped in Maripol, and the situation
00:00:19.660 is grim for the survivors of near-constant Russian bombardment of the city. And President
00:00:26.020 Zelensky is calling on Pope Francis to do everything in his power to persuade Vladimir
00:00:31.680 Putin to meet Zelensky in talks aimed at calling a ceasefire. The White House and Pentagon have been
00:00:38.920 warning that President Putin is prepared to use bioweapons and chemical weapons against the
00:00:44.860 Ukrainian forces that have held off his army for weeks now. President Biden today said if Putin does
00:00:51.740 use biochem weapons, the United States will respond, as he put it, in kind. Welcome to the Great
00:00:58.860 America Show. Thanks for joining us. In other developments today, the Pentagon says Biden still
00:01:05.140 wants a nuclear deal with Iran, but won't acknowledge the central role Russia has in negotiating that
00:01:11.940 deal. President Biden is truly playing with fire and is committing constant constitutional overreach,
00:01:19.100 whether at home or abroad, as he is now. And at home, Senate hearings for the judge nominated to the
00:01:26.140 Supreme Court is clearly far outside the mainstream, and her record for eight years as a district court
00:01:33.400 judge reveal a radical leftist, and there is hardly a record at all of her appellate court tenure,
00:01:40.540 which amounts to little more than half a year. Judge Ketanji Brown-Jackson has apparently intimidated the
00:01:48.320 Republican senators in her confirmation hearings because they haven't addressed her lack of
00:01:53.800 experience, but not Senator Hawley and certainly not Senator Cruz. They've made it clear she's not
00:02:00.440 mainstream in her conduct as a judge, associates herself with CRT, and is unquestionably an activist
00:02:08.480 left-wing judge. As we've discussed here on the Great America Show, there's no legitimate,
00:02:14.640 fact-based, scientific reason for President Biden to keep the enormous, extraordinary powers that were
00:02:21.360 declared to deal with the COVID pandemic in 2020. And it's clear President Biden is intent on retaining
00:02:28.540 those powers, despite the Senate's passage of a bill to end the national emergency. Biden obviously believes
00:02:36.860 those extra powers will be helpful in the midterm elections, and he has threatened to veto any legislative effort to
00:02:44.640 strip him of those extraordinary powers. And it's no accident that Dr. Fauci was back out in front of television
00:02:52.580 cameras to talk up the new Omicron variant, to talk up the surge he now says he expects, and to warn us, of course, that we may
00:03:01.280 have to go back to old restrictions. Even Fauci figured out that didn't play well with the American
00:03:08.240 public, because it's plain we don't have an appetite for any more authoritarian rule or nonsense. No, the question
00:03:16.000 is, will our new world order president understand fully that he has now overplayed his Marxist hand?
00:03:24.720 Joining us here on the Great America Show is one of the leading doctors in the country, whose knowledge as a
00:03:30.420 physician and his courage as a citizen awakened millions of Americans to the threats of big pharma and our
00:03:36.880 big government to our freedom, and the limits and dangers of vaccines, medical orthodoxies, and
00:03:44.400 bureaucratic authoritarianism, and the importance of treatment when it comes to the virus. With us now is
00:03:52.200 Dr. Peter McCullough, internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and host of his own podcast called
00:03:59.620 America Out Loud. Great to have you with us, doctor, and thanks for all you've done for this country and
00:04:05.960 for all of us. So here we go. Let's start with the topic that is dominating the news space, but really
00:04:16.200 not with any great context or explanation. And that is the BA-2 variant. President Biden telling us it's
00:04:25.080 bad in Europe and it's going to get worse here. We'd like you to answer the question, just how bad or
00:04:31.800 dangerous is BA-2? I can tell you, I think almost all people following the virus and media doctors have
00:04:41.460 learned to be cautious about making predictions of these waves. The Omicron variant, which is the highly
00:04:48.560 mutated form of the virus, it's gone through the sequence of wild type, alpha, beta, gamma, delta,
00:04:56.160 and now Omicron. Omicron can be divided into two subvariants. One is BA-1, and the BA-1 variant
00:05:04.220 is so mutated that actually one of the primers that the PCR test picks up, it's called the S-gene
00:05:10.100 primer is missing. The BA-2 subvariant is actually a less mutated form of Omicron where the S-gene is
00:05:19.900 actually present. So a PCR test that tests for that primer could actually tell BA-1 versus BA-2.
00:05:27.440 The measures of infectivity come from in vitro studies, and they're actually hard to interpret
00:05:32.740 because so many people have had the virus now. If someone with BA-2 runs up against somebody who
00:05:39.940 previously had BA-1, they'd already have immunity, it wouldn't pass it to them. And so it's hard to
00:05:45.220 calculate that. It's clear, though, that the BA-2 subvariant is finding pockets of susceptibility,
00:05:51.460 particularly in Asia, Hong Kong, and I've been following the story in South Korea, which is
00:05:57.800 interesting. South Korea is having far and away the largest rise in cases and deaths right now,
00:06:02.600 and they're 93% fully vaccinated and boosted. Fully 90%, and they're having the worst experience.
00:06:09.120 Right, 93%, yeah, fully vaccinated and boosted, and they're having the worst experience. And I
00:06:13.680 think it speaks to the observation that the virus has mutated really to beyond the reach of the
00:06:20.660 vaccines. There are two concurrent developments, and one involves, of course, the president himself
00:06:29.900 maintaining that this is an emergency and persisting in the national emergency that he declared
00:06:36.820 put into effect through an executive order. The pharmaceutical company, the pharma companies
00:06:43.900 coming out, and in the case of Pfizer, saying that we're suspending our request for approval for their
00:06:51.960 vaccine for children five and under, and Moderna, which is seeking emergency use authorization for
00:07:01.120 theirs. Can you explain what that's about? Okay, so let's take the first part of the question. The
00:07:08.560 emergency declarations originally were all predicated on the observation that we could overflow our
00:07:16.120 hospitals, that there would be such a deluge of patients, the hospital capacity would be exceeded,
00:07:21.160 and then we couldn't care for patients with other problems, and would just literally become a
00:07:25.660 humanitarian disaster. Fortunately, over the two years, our hospitals have built more and more
00:07:31.500 capacity, we have more and more skill in maintaining patients, and the successive viral mutations are less
00:07:39.440 likely to lend somebody hospitalized because the virus itself is becoming less virulent, but also early
00:07:46.200 treatments are far more effective. And, you know, just along those lines, before we get to the vaccines,
00:07:50.980 there are two really positive developments. One is on February 11th, Lilly announced betar libamib,
00:08:00.000 which is a new monoclonal antibody. It works against the current Omicron variant, and it's 175
00:08:05.920 milligrams in 2 mLs of an infusion. So we literally give a quick infusion over 30 seconds, and they've
00:08:14.000 committed to supply 600,000 doses to the United States, and this is a wonderful news. These monoclonal
00:08:19.040 antibodies are safe and effective. I've used them now for a year and a half, and then AstraZeneca
00:08:24.360 announced on February 24th that the EVU shield monoclonal antibody pair was EUA approved. Now,
00:08:31.380 this is texagivimab and silgajivimab, and we basically give 300 milligrams of each intramuscularly,
00:08:40.420 and then six months later, come back and give 150 milligrams intramuscularly, and it's approved for
00:08:45.920 severely immunocompromised patients like transplant patients, as well as those who just can't take the
00:08:52.760 vaccines because of severe allergic reactions. And, you know, this is the EVU shield in the AstraZeneca
00:09:00.620 and Lilly products are advancements, and, you know, what's frustrating to me as a Dr. Liu is that there's
00:09:05.540 no mention of this on TV. There's no public service announcements. The patients aren't aware,
00:09:10.440 so each patient, we have to start a scramble to find it. I had two patients yesterday where EVU shield
00:09:15.620 came up, and we again have had this oblivion to therapeutics while there's been a hyper focus on
00:09:22.640 vaccines. And as you pointed out, the vaccine developments are not concordant. So with the
00:09:29.480 Pfizer program under age five, it was based on basically trying to get an antibody rise,
00:09:36.040 and the children's immune systems just weren't, you know, amenable to that at this point in time.
00:09:41.900 They're receiving other vaccines for other reasons, and children of that age don't get
00:09:45.400 clinically ill with COVID-19 anyway, so that was aborted. Now, the Moderna attempt ages six to 11,
00:09:52.180 that was with 50 micrograms of Moderna messenger RNA, which is half the 100 microgram adult dose,
00:09:58.860 and the study involved 4,700 children, but it was just predicated again on antibody rises,
00:10:04.480 no clinical outcomes. So we know that children can basically get a runny nose in that age group.
00:10:09.720 About 30 to 40 percent with the vaccine, though, get a pretty significant fever, and they get
00:10:15.040 clinically sick. So many have thought that really the vaccine makes the kids sicker than COVID would
00:10:20.000 itself. And so, you know, that's the reason why there's been this fractured response to pediatric
00:10:25.280 vaccination. You probably heard Joe Ladapo, the new Surgeon General hired by Ron DeSantis,
00:10:30.520 basically saying Florida's not going to support vaccination for children.
00:10:33.640 Yeah, and the Surgeon General of Florida, he stands out, Governor Ron DeSantis stands out
00:10:43.360 as being adamantly opposed and now making it a matter of regulation that they will not
00:10:49.200 receive vaccinations. That's a strong statement. Do you concur?
00:10:55.400 Well, they said that they just don't support it for children in the upper age range, I think could be 18
00:11:04.120 on that. But, you know, it allows for exceptions. A child who's severely immunocompromised, one with
00:11:09.960 cystic fibrosis, heart and lung disease. But this idea of just, you know, statewide vaccination of
00:11:15.760 children, it's just not supportable based on the data.
00:11:18.720 For this for kids under 12. And as you say, with exceptions, but at the same time, you know, what I've
00:11:28.160 been hearing from you, from Dr. Malone, from others, is that children don't need really, and maybe I'm
00:11:34.920 misinterpreting you and much of what I'm reading, but there's just no supported basis empirically
00:11:42.940 for the children requiring a vaccine against Omicron, or frankly, for COVID.
00:11:53.180 Yeah, it's true. And because the vaccines do have risks, I mean, there are vaccine deaths now published
00:11:59.880 in the peer-reviewed literature of children taking the vaccine and suffer heart damage or other
00:12:04.160 complications. And as the vaccine deaths rise in the Vaccine Averse Event Reporting System,
00:12:09.060 now with the CDC reducing the number of COVID deaths in their data by 40% in children,
00:12:16.240 there actually may be more vaccine-related deaths than COVID respiratory illness deaths in children.
00:12:21.440 And so the balance, the risk-benefit balance is not in their favor. And so I agree with Ledeppo
00:12:27.020 and DeSantis, we should back down on that.
00:12:30.580 And on the issue of the CDC, one of the issues that everyone is struggling with, and I try to
00:12:37.160 represent our audience in this, to trying to stay up with all of this while they're going about their
00:12:44.320 business, very simply put, do they need to worry if they have a healthy child under the age 12 or under,
00:12:53.940 should they or should they not, in your judgment, as a general principle, require a vaccine?
00:13:01.100 The answer is no.
00:13:04.300 And we are watching the news media still, despite all of the great work that you,
00:13:11.260 what I call the doctors of dissent, who we owe a tremendous debt to, for bringing the American public
00:13:21.220 to awareness of what actually is going on, the efforts to control our lives, to make decisions
00:13:27.060 that are better left to the doctors. I think most Americans would every time want their doctor
00:13:32.220 to make a medical or public health decision and help them in making, you know, my general view is
00:13:39.660 when I go to my doctor, I concur. No matter what she says, I concur. And because she has,
00:13:48.380 I think she's been right throughout our experiences, you know, as our family doctor.
00:13:52.660 Uh, I just don't understand how we can get to a point where we have to challenge the CDC,
00:13:59.980 our public health system, because we know, for example, uh, Pfizer has hidden statistics on
00:14:07.980 adverse reactions. I suspect so has every other, uh, pharma company. We know the CDC hasn't been
00:14:14.920 straightforward from the outset of this pandemic with the American people are forthcoming with data
00:14:20.280 or are, are right. Uh, in many cases, how should we regard the CDC?
00:14:27.920 I think you hit the nail on the head. You know, CDC has always been, uh, in service to doctors and
00:14:34.200 not vice versa. The CDC, uh, is an outbreak investigation unit. It provides data. Uh, you know,
00:14:40.260 I'm a cardiologist. So you believe it or not, the CDC has dietary recommendations that it puts out
00:14:45.100 there and that's fine. Uh, but the CDC doesn't treat patients and it can't overreach and start to
00:14:50.500 give dictums or rulings. Uh, there's no doubt about it. And the, um, the inconsistency with how
00:14:57.940 the CDC has approached the pandemic over two years with things up and down and back and forth, uh,
00:15:03.660 the public has really lost trust in the CDC. And I think because they've been really out of their,
00:15:09.880 uh, range of activities, if they stayed in support of data and deferred to doctors on the decisions,
00:15:16.600 we could keep the priorities where they need to be. You know, the average age of death of an American
00:15:21.300 with COVID-19 is well into the eighties. The focus should always be on the seniors, Lou, that this,
00:15:26.860 you know, this hyper focus on children and young people is misplaced.
00:15:31.280 It misplaced, but it seems Moderna and Pfizer, uh, are sort of committed to a revenue stream,
00:15:38.300 uh, that would include, uh, children, uh, five years, uh, six years old and under. Uh, and this
00:15:46.860 to me, it's just stunning when lay people, uh, the great unwashed like me, uh, who know nothing
00:15:53.880 about medicine, who know nothing about the science of genetics, uh, uh, and virology, we have to depend
00:16:01.160 on our doctors and, uh, and we would be, uh, depending on our public health agencies, if they had been
00:16:08.020 straight, uh, forthright and honest with us, uh, it's, it's just to me, a terrible thing, uh, to put
00:16:15.620 the, uh, an American citizen, uh, parent, a family in that position. It's awful. Uh, and yet there's
00:16:23.800 still this, there's this noise that surrounds the basic issue of whether or not I have to worry about
00:16:29.400 my child and whether I need to get him or her a, a vaccination if they're 12 or under.
00:16:36.060 Lou, there's a philosophical divide in thinking that's behind this. I think a lot of people don't
00:16:42.140 understand the CDC and FDA and the NIH White House task force, their philosophical belief that it looks
00:16:51.000 like it's driving everything is they really don't believe the vaccine program will work. They really
00:16:56.640 don't unless every single person takes the vaccine. And because the vaccines don't last very long,
00:17:03.140 that means everybody taking a vaccine every three to six months, it's baked into their belief system.
00:17:08.980 And this is completely counter to how we use vaccines, uh, today, you know, as a, an adult internist
00:17:15.880 and cardiologist, I use the pneumococcal vaccine, but it's, it's targeted towards our seniors. Same thing
00:17:21.700 with the shingles vaccine. However, if a, if my child's going to go to college and they're going to be in,
00:17:26.360 you know, congregate dormitory settings, they get the meningococcal vaccine. Everything is targeted
00:17:31.160 and we rely on the vaccine to do what it says it's going to do. And I rely on them in my practice,
00:17:36.940 but with COVID-19, there's a thought that this is a moonshot. If you will, I, I do have a belief
00:17:43.180 that some people, they probably are staking their entire careers on this, that they want to go down
00:17:48.100 in history as saving the world with a vaccine. And they're trying to blanket the entire world
00:17:52.960 with repeated injections of novel vaccines, basically genetic vaccines. And it is the gamble
00:18:00.680 of, uh, uh, basically of modern history, in my view. It's also a gamble that is, uh, using, uh,
00:18:08.560 the American people as chips. Uh, and, and I, and I resent that and I'm troubled by it. And I don't,
00:18:17.280 I don't see the logic of it because now we're here, Dr. Fauci again, who's once again, reemerged
00:18:24.020 has gone in front of television cameras and said, now there's a surge coming. Uh, Europe had a surge
00:18:30.260 and therefore we're going to have a surge of the BA2 variant of Omicron. Uh, and we don't know how
00:18:37.780 deadly it will be. We do know it'll be highly trained, which is by the way, another interesting
00:18:42.840 aspect. Yeah. We apparently know that it's 50% more transmissible, uh, this new variant BA2,
00:18:50.340 but we don't know how deadly. And I, and he's already talking about more restrictions.
00:18:58.040 Uh, I deeply resent it because he's, he doesn't explain he could take lessons from you for,
00:19:04.920 for a week and still wouldn't understand how to communicate. I believe, uh, at least forthrightly
00:19:10.540 and honestly, and with, uh, in a fashion that's explanatory and clear, uh, to the, to the lay
00:19:17.200 person, what are we to think about? Yeah. Lou, the very first paper I published in 2020 on COVID-19
00:19:23.640 and peer-reviewed literature, uh, the main point I was making is we need a U S hospital census
00:19:29.420 of people admitted for COVID respiratory illness, not admitted for an ankle sprain who test positive
00:19:35.700 for COVID, but you know, people with COVID respiratory illness, we have 5,600 hospitals
00:19:40.400 in the United States, 2,200 acute care hospitals. And to this day, we still don't have that census.
00:19:45.140 We have test positive cases, uh, which now, uh, uh, it's not capturing really what's going on
00:19:51.160 because so many people are using store-bought over-the-counter tests that aren't registered.
00:19:55.480 And then we have deaths which run in arrears by six weeks or so and have to wait for death
00:20:00.380 certificates to be signed. And that's a laborious, uh, task. So we really don't have the data to
00:20:05.820 inform us if a next wave is there. Uh, you know, we get these day-to-day hospital reports and we have
00:20:11.420 to rely on them. We've been through alpha, delta, and Omicron so far, and we've never exceeded hospital
00:20:17.180 capacity. The closest we got to it is right, uh, uh, after I testified in the U S Senate in October 19th
00:20:23.720 of 2020, I told Americans, I said, listen, if we don't start early treatment, you're going to be
00:20:28.440 horrified if we can't take care of people with heart attacks wave. And we nearly got to that
00:20:32.520 brink. I think we're a few thousand below that brink during the alpha wave. Uh, but beyond that
00:20:38.680 now, um, I think we're okay. Uh, if the next, if it's going to be BA two, uh, there, there could be
00:20:44.500 a surge. Now, the majority of people with the BA one were fully vaccinated. And that's the reason why
00:20:50.060 the curve was so high. Every single study with Omicron shows the majority of people who are getting
00:20:54.800 are fully vaccinated. Uh, you have white house press secretary, Jen Psaki, who probably had Delta
00:21:00.240 in the fall. She's fully vaccinated, almost certainly boosted. Uh, she had Delta in the fall.
00:21:05.740 Now she's got Omicron now. Uh, I mean the vaccinated can expect to get illness. It's been my experience
00:21:11.600 though. Uh, if they do get it, it's mild and it's manageable like a common cold manageable, but at the
00:21:17.240 same time, uh, there's an open question out there as well. And that is, are, if the vaccine doesn't
00:21:25.300 prevent the disease, which is what every, every, I think nearly every American thought of was the
00:21:31.340 purpose of a vaccine, uh, instead it, uh, uh, it mitigates the symptoms and, uh, uh, helps you not
00:21:41.200 go to the hospital, uh, a severe case, uh, all of which is great, uh, particularly if you're in my
00:21:46.880 age group, but I don't understand how we got to, we sort of, uh, mutated to a situation where we're
00:21:54.360 going to, we're told we may need four, may five, uh, vaccinations, uh, and they're still not going to
00:22:00.940 stop, uh, these variants of COVID-19. It's, it's just seems there's some dishonesty, uh, here
00:22:11.040 between our government, uh, and, uh, our pharmaceutical industry, uh, in, in, in all of
00:22:20.340 this. Uh, and I, I can't, uh, you know, people ask me about it and I, and I have to say it's a,
00:22:26.820 it's a head scratcher for sure. It sounds like you're frustrated like so many Americans. Uh, you
00:22:31.820 know, I can tell you at least for the flu vaccine, the flu vaccine is minimally effective. It's safe.
00:22:37.240 I took the flu vaccine this year. Uh, I was at a meeting in Washington last week and I asked one
00:22:42.420 of the, the flu vaccine experts for the NIH. I said, what was the coverage of this year? What
00:22:46.320 protection did I really get? And he said, the number was 17%. That's what, yeah. Yeah. So it's,
00:22:52.220 it's, it's pretty small. Okay. So I took it, you know, I'm supposed to do it as a doctor. I don't
00:22:55.560 have a problem with it. Uh, we were now past a year with the COVID-19 vaccines. It's known that the
00:23:02.000 virus has mutated considerably. Remember the randomized trials of Pfizer Moderna against
00:23:07.200 the binary endpoint of COVID-19 respiratory illness at home. It prevented 90% of cases.
00:23:13.940 It was, it was effective against the wild type and probably a little bit of the alpha variant,
00:23:19.100 but now that it's mutated all the way through Omicron, uh, we, you know, the, the vaccines were
00:23:24.200 never modified to cover the new, in a sense, the new spike protein on Omicron. Cause it's a very
00:23:30.640 narrow vaccine. Uh, so we don't have coverage now. And so this idea of keep pushing the vaccine that
00:23:36.540 essentially is obsolete is making people frustrated. And it gets, um, apparently the ops obsolescence,
00:23:43.440 if I could use the expression occurs rapidly within, uh, in some cases, uh, even under 90 days,
00:23:51.020 uh, according to some of the tests that I've read about, uh, that was never envisioned. That was never,
00:23:57.320 uh, imagined. Uh, and it's had a significant effect. We've got 70, almost 73 fourths of the
00:24:04.360 population have had at least one shot, one vaccination. Uh, my goodness, uh, for that to
00:24:10.920 have lasted only 30 days or 90 days, uh, whatever number they want to pull out of the, out of their
00:24:17.740 testing. Uh, it just, it just seems like they've gone to absolutely no trouble to explain that to the
00:24:25.000 American people. They haven't. And there's, uh, almost certainly ecological pressures that played
00:24:30.820 a role. Do you know, social distancing and lockdowns, the first time we've done this in
00:24:35.180 least in our, uh, you know, my lifetime for sure. Right. It, you know, that actually it's thought
00:24:41.180 maybe put evolutionary pressures to make the virus more contagious. It literally had to jump greater
00:24:46.020 distances to infect one another. And then we put in the vaccines and the vaccines, because they're
00:24:52.220 narrowly applied against the spike protein, the virus quickly figured out how to mutate,
00:24:56.600 create a little different confirmation of spike protein, and then create what's called antigenic
00:25:00.920 escape. It literally can escape the effect. So the vaccine raises up antibodies, but it misses the
00:25:06.020 target because the virus is cleverly mutated. So the, the antibodies can't hit the, hit the target.
00:25:12.260 So the vaccination program almost certainly has led to the hyper dominance of these mutants. If we
00:25:18.900 would have had a blend, you know, before the vaccine program, we always had a blend of variants.
00:25:23.160 There never was a single variant. It was a blend of variants. So you'd have a chance natural immunity
00:25:28.220 could fight this down. We could treat the virus. Now with the vaccination program, we, we basically
00:25:32.880 created the Delta variant of, you know, it was, there was a hundred percent Delta at one point in time.
00:25:37.420 Now, a hundred percent Omicron, the vaccine program, there's three analyses, one by
00:25:41.460 Supermanian camp and BD now showing the mass vaccination program, as opposed to a targeted program
00:25:47.160 is basically backfiring worldwide. Well, let me turn to what should we do. There is a interesting
00:25:53.860 to me, a role that suddenly public health agencies have taken on in this. There was at least a little
00:26:01.520 modesty, a little humility in the early months because they didn't know what they were dealing
00:26:07.640 with. They had no pretense that they knew what was going on. And once they got the vaccine, suddenly
00:26:13.580 the public health agencies were, were absolutely, uh, certitude was, uh, permeating the bureaucracy.
00:26:22.100 Uh, it was also flooding the airwaves. And now we're at a point where people forgotten about the
00:26:29.560 science. Uh, Fauci said he's Mr. Science and suddenly, uh, no one else could be. Uh, but right now I I'm not
00:26:38.940 convinced that our public health agencies are following science. I'm not convinced pharma is
00:26:44.540 doing so, uh, because frankly, I think they're more interested in getting a younger, uh, target market
00:26:52.420 and boosting their revenue that straightforwardly. Am I wrong? It almost seems that way. You know,
00:27:00.700 I can tell you one of the biggest check boxes that we don't see anybody talking about that is who's
00:27:07.640 already had COVID. This is really important because, uh, you know, as we're dealing with our military
00:27:14.340 and employees and travel, we need to know who's actually already had the illness, a well-documented
00:27:19.820 case. Uh, there is a paper from Johns Hopkins. Uh, first author is a Legio and colleagues showing a
00:27:25.800 well-documented case of having COVID. There's a 99% chance they have very strong immunity by the
00:27:31.640 antibodies. If they get a second infection, it's almost always mild. Like John Saki is having right now.
00:27:37.140 And one really doesn't need to be alarmed. Uh, we need to know who's had the illness and who,
00:27:42.920 who hasn't. We need to know who's the, who's on the Delta force, who's on the A team, who's not
00:27:47.500 going to get really sick and who is, uh, you know, relatively protected. We don't have second or third
00:27:54.000 cases where people are ending up on the ventilators. It doesn't happen. Uh, even the, uh, wild type
00:27:59.500 through the Delta in a paper from Qatar, New England Journal of Medicine, they showed it's 60%
00:28:04.320 protective even against Omicron. So that's the reason why Omicron shifted and attacked the
00:28:08.600 vaccinated because it really couldn't infect, uh, to a great degree, those who already had the
00:28:13.540 natural immunity from COVID recovered. So as more and more people come COVID recovered, we need that
00:28:18.860 checkbox. If tomorrow we created a registry, employers had a registry, those people clearly
00:28:24.120 don't need vaccines. In fact, there are three studies showing somebody who's recovered, who takes
00:28:28.200 a vaccine is just asking for trouble, more reactions and problems. Uh, you know, getting back to the
00:28:33.080 fundamentals. If you were to, if you were to track a chickenpox outbreak, when we were kids,
00:28:36.980 the first thing you want to know is has the kid already had chickenpox? That's the first thing you
00:28:40.800 want to know. And so to ignore whether or not someone has already had this, and this was a point
00:28:46.680 Scott Atlas made when he was on the white house task force is a major scientific blunder. We should
00:28:52.460 always be first and foremost, checking a box to see if we had it. I work in, in large cardiology
00:28:57.600 practice in Dallas, Fort Worth, and that's a checkbox we have on our forms. We actually want to know
00:29:02.300 who has already had COVID because we know that we're going to be safe out in the workplace and
00:29:07.160 in the hospital. And, and that is the purpose of asking that question, uh, as to whether or not,
00:29:14.540 uh, they need to be vaccinated. Correct. That's a big piece to it. Uh, you know, it's clear
00:29:22.000 that the FDA agreed on this. The FDA said nobody who's had COVID-19 in the past should be in the
00:29:28.320 randomized trials of vaccination, nobody. So the FDA strictly excluded them and we should follow
00:29:33.460 that guidance. You know, once the public program started, there tend to be kind of a creep and
00:29:38.580 people said, well, if you had COVID, you can take an extra one. Maybe it would kind of give you a
00:29:42.820 little extra jazz. And we're like, wait a minute, we never do that. If people are excluded from the
00:29:47.760 randomized trials, also pregnant women were excluded, women at childbearing potential, they were
00:29:52.360 excluded. Uh, we can't just go ahead and give it a, give it a whirl out in the public program with a,
00:29:58.220 a, a novel vaccine. We should have followed the strict regulatory discipline and it's leaving that
00:30:05.840 discipline that got us in trouble. You mentioned, uh, the release of the Pfizer data, the public
00:30:11.060 health and professional review committee that the, um, the lawsuit lined up led by Aaron Siri against
00:30:16.640 Pfizer and the FDA. Remember Pfizer wanted delayed release of the data for 55 years. And then they
00:30:21.940 doubled down to over 70 years. Finally, the, the judge prevailed, the court prevailed and said,
00:30:25.780 listen, release the data over the next eight to nine months. The first tranche of information came
00:30:30.320 out. Pfizer knew about 1,223 deaths shortly worldwide, shortly after their use of their vaccine,
00:30:38.040 people were reporting it to Pfizer. They thought the vaccine caused these deaths,
00:30:41.280 1,291 special adverse events of interest, a whole range of various diseases that are now written up
00:30:47.860 in the literature that the vaccine causes. So granted the majority of people took the vaccine
00:30:52.180 are fine. There's people in my family downstairs, Lou, who took the vaccine, they're fine. And I hope
00:30:57.160 they have some modicum of protection, but there are others who've been injured and Senator Ron Johnson
00:31:02.300 now has proposed legislation to have some compensation for them because they're frustrated. They took the
00:31:07.980 vaccine because they were told to, uh, now they suffered a complication and that is good for him.
00:31:15.660 And that's the responsible thing for our government to do. There's been some irresponsibility, uh, as
00:31:21.920 the public health agencies in my judgment have gone about this, you've described some of it, uh, uh, other
00:31:28.540 doctors who have been on the point of the spear, uh, trying to break the orthodoxy and, and, and bring
00:31:35.780 rationality, uh, to the, to the vaccine enterprise. And I'm not referring to the pharma companies. I'm
00:31:41.940 talking about the enterprise itself of, uh, moving this program out, getting people vaccinated and
00:31:47.460 reacting to the, the COVID quote unquote emergency. We are now at the point with where you have said,
00:31:54.740 uh, and other doctors, you have said, I think, straightforwardly, we don't have a national
00:32:00.100 emergency because it was the predicate was hospitals overflowing, unable to deal with a number of
00:32:06.260 patients and preempting other care, uh, that other citizens would need besides the COVID patients.
00:32:13.460 Uh, the Senate has passed a bill to rescind that national emergency. Now the cynics are saying this
00:32:22.340 administration is persisting in that, uh, emergency for its own purposes for control. The left has shown
00:32:29.140 that it's, uh, has an authority, more than an authoritarian streak that they have authoritarian
00:32:34.820 imperatives within their philosophy, their ideology, which is if not Marxist verging on Marxist. Uh,
00:32:42.900 what is the reality here in your judgment? Should that state of emergency be removed? Not as a political
00:32:51.060 matter as a science. The state of emergency, um, is really what the whole house
00:32:59.140 is built upon. Uh, and the state of emergency is the basis for the overreach. And so the overreach
00:33:06.340 is actually not regulatory, but it's almost determined by each employer, each entity, each
00:33:12.020 sports team, uh, to, to really incredible degrees. And we're seeing really a quixotic type of approach
00:33:19.380 where one day there's testing every week and vaccines, the next week they drop everything. And we're seeing
00:33:24.580 this up and down all over the place. And it's because of this, this emergency word is hanging
00:33:30.900 over everyone. Uh, I, on January 24th in the U S Senate, I made the case and as well supported by
00:33:37.700 former white house advisor, um, Paul Alexander, who's reviewed all the data on this, uh, that the
00:33:42.500 emergency phase is over. There's still a pandemic, but the emergency phase is over. We can focus on
00:33:47.860 on therapeutics and handling things from here. Uh, but declarations of a emergency should be
00:33:52.980 dropped across the country, allowing people to basically go back to normal. We saw president
00:33:58.660 Biden actually in a clip on, on the news and some type of forum saying that, you know, COVID-19 has
00:34:04.500 become an opportunity, uh, an opportunity for a new world order. And it's, it's really, uh, I think
00:34:11.540 very, uh, dark. It's in line with Klaus Schwab's book that says, uh, you know, the great reset.
00:34:18.020 And I think people mean that you, you, you said the word totalitarian. I mean, that is about as
00:34:22.980 un-American a word I can think of, uh, but it's coming, it's creeping right in. You can,
00:34:27.300 you can see it. It's in the open. And it's, it's, it's swept Canada, uh, Australia. My gosh. I mean,
00:34:34.900 what I, what I witnessed in that freedom convoy, uh, what all Americans, uh, who watched it
00:34:40.900 saw was, uh, it, uh, it would have been unthinkable, uh, a few years ago, uh, but to see
00:34:49.060 Justin Trudeau behaving like a 10 pot dictator, uh, who, a man who has impaired intellectual abilities
00:34:57.780 to begin with, uh, in that performance, but, uh, calling out the, their emergency act, uh, he's,
00:35:06.500 he swore it wasn't martial law. It was just an emergency act, but stripped,
00:35:10.100 uh, Canadians have so many of their constitutional rights. Uh, he wanted to, uh, to extend it as well.
00:35:18.020 We now know that this, this will go beyond today. Uh, this, uh, this extension of the
00:35:25.140 national emergency powers, given the, the executive branch, uh, we have, we have to end this now,
00:35:31.860 uh, because it's, it's, it is just, it's un-American. Um, not only is it totalitarian, but it is, it is
00:35:41.540 damaging the country in ways, whether it's the closure of schools and the ability to keep them
00:35:46.340 open, but whether it is damaging children as a result of having to wear masks mandates, all of
00:35:52.580 that has to go away, uh, in my opinion, and I want yours. And Lou, it's wasting money. You know,
00:35:58.500 we've covered vaccines and some other topics, but there's a paper in JAMA open, uh, a research
00:36:05.380 letter by Connor and colleagues, and it evaluated 1 million, uh, I'm sorry, 179, 127 people in a routine
00:36:15.380 testing, uh, in a workplace, uh, mean age, 36 years old, young workers. It, this study is like
00:36:23.140 every other study done of asymptomatic testing. The yield of doing weekly testing is less than 1%.
00:36:29.380 In this study, it was a 0.35% positivity rate of those who that were positively 62% were false
00:36:36.660 positive. Now there's been study after study showing that all this massive testing of people
00:36:41.860 who are well getting on airplanes in school and workplaces has less than a 1% yield. And when it's
00:36:47.300 positive, it misleads the worker and the employer. We need to drop asymptomatic testing. The FDA has
00:36:53.060 never supported it. The world health organization has never supported it. And again, it's, it's an
00:36:57.620 overreach by employers. I think out of fear and, and, and out of lack of good leadership from
00:37:03.940 governments, government should be telling employers, listen, uh, you know, go ahead and drop this.
00:37:08.340 You don't need to do it. And with, with president Biden threatening to veto the Senate legislation
00:37:14.740 that they just passed to rescind the national emergency. Uh, this is Orwellian, uh, the power
00:37:21.300 is in his hands and he has the power to keep it in his hands, at least until they could, uh, override
00:37:27.780 that veto. And with this, uh, this, uh, conference, this democratic conference in the Senate and the
00:37:34.340 House, there is no way in the world that they would yield one iota of this, uh, one ounce of this power
00:37:41.700 that they now have, particularly, uh, not until after the 2022, uh, midterms, uh, I see without
00:37:50.900 question, uh, uh, a, an administration that is absolutely committed, uh, to its agenda and to
00:37:58.900 stripping our, our government of, uh, its responsibilities to the people, uh, in order
00:38:05.620 that, uh, a different form of government will emerge. It's unprecedented in American history,
00:38:12.100 uh, a government that has been weaponized against its people, uh, and with an indifference to actually
00:38:19.220 the health of the people, uh, or the science that they profess to follow. Uh, your thoughts on the
00:38:26.100 context of all of this, the, the medical emergency, the pandemic, uh, and the response of pharma, uh,
00:38:33.060 and the government. It's been a confluence. It's, it's a coup d'etat using the, the, the Trojan horse,
00:38:41.940 if you will, of a medical pandemic, uh, you know, that's been the entree to a new way of thinking.
00:38:48.660 And many think it's been a brewing now for several years, this kind of globalist agenda,
00:38:54.180 waiting for the opportunity as Klaus Schwab outlines in his book, just waiting for this to happen.
00:39:00.180 Uh, and there are so many interested parties, right? So you have, uh, China and the Chinese
00:39:04.980 communist party, you have the pharmaceutical companies and, and the National Institutes
00:39:10.420 of Health and CEPI and GAVI and EcoHealth Alliance, the Gates Foundation, uh, World Economic Forum,
00:39:17.140 the, um, uh, uh, Rockefeller Institute. You can, uh, in Peter Bregan's book, COVID-19 and the
00:39:23.620 global predators. We are the prey. That's a great read. A nonfiction has a thousand citations really
00:39:29.700 lays out how complicated this is. Uh, but what a sweeping change it's having all over the world.
00:39:35.860 It's not just the United States. You've already pointed out in some places in the globe, uh,
00:39:40.020 is far more severe. Uh, I think almost everybody recognizes, uh, this is not a dire emergency. This
00:39:47.860 isn't a tsunami or, or a nuclear Holocaust. Uh, uh, this is a, uh, for most people, a mild viral
00:39:54.580 illness, uh, some more severe that now we can manage. Uh, we have a great advance in therapeutics
00:40:00.420 now, and I think there should be no more controversies on treating COVID-19. We have
00:40:04.580 plenty of products that the new oral Pfizer drug is terrific. Uh, these new, new drugs I reviewed today,
00:40:10.260 the monoclonal antibodies are terrific. So even one basically can act as a preventive, uh, almost
00:40:15.860 certainly far more effective than a vaccine. Uh, so it's the, uh, context of a viral pandemic
00:40:22.820 and the, in an instrument, a major instrument of totalitarian rule is the vaccine program.
00:40:29.860 Absolutely. And, uh, and I thank you for, for saying that because we have to, and I'm talking
00:40:38.340 to everyone in the audience, we have to urge our representatives and our senators now to rescind this
00:40:45.860 national emergency. And it needs to become a very big deal right now, because otherwise it's going
00:40:52.100 to be abused. We have a president. I'm not going to get into the issue of whether he should even be
00:40:57.140 in the oval office, but the fact that he is, and with obvious limited again, uh, some impairment, uh,
00:41:04.820 and with also, uh, the conflicts that he has, he is, he is conflicted with his interests and his
00:41:13.620 family's interest in China, in Russia, in Ukraine and in Iran. Uh, and at the same time, the four
00:41:23.780 principal powers arrayed against the United States right now, we have a president who is an absolute
00:41:31.140 position of conflict of interest and who has a history, uh, and frankly, a sordid one, uh,
00:41:39.140 with, uh, three of the four, uh, state actors. Uh, we have to act, ladies and gentlemen, please
00:41:47.780 get ahold of your representative, contact them, uh, and we will be putting up a petition right, uh,
00:41:54.500 right away on our website, uh, to do so. Uh, it's, it's urgent, uh, what we have to do here.
00:42:01.380 Would you agree, doctor? I agree. I think that's the most
00:42:04.820 concrete step that can be taken is to, uh, stop the declaration of emergency and have restoration
00:42:12.100 to normal while we recognize where, you know, we're dealing with this medical problem, revert advice
00:42:18.500 and, um, and the next medical steps to doctors, have the CDC actually step down on recommendations,
00:42:25.220 same as with the national institutes of health, FDA needs to return to being a safety watchdog,
00:42:30.740 and they need to immediately call Pfizer and understand why these people died and how things
00:42:35.940 can be corrected. The vaccine manufacturers can offer their products and, uh, they'll have to make
00:42:43.380 the case for them and Americans can decide if they think there's a compelling case. Someone needs,
00:42:49.140 you know, it's obvious the products have risk and where there's risk, there must be choice. It seems
00:42:54.340 to me, you know, I had traveled to Russia a few years ago and, uh, you know, I heard the nationalistic
00:42:59.860 statements when I was over there then, uh, you know, they have a regret for perestroika. They want
00:43:05.380 restoration of the Soviet union and some of the states back. And it's clear this has been going on for
00:43:11.060 a few years now, they waited for a vulnerable time and they went for it. And you can see when the
00:43:16.260 vulnerable time was in the leadership in the white house. Yeah. Uh, no question. In my opinion,
00:43:23.380 Joe Biden in the white house is an invitation to the takeover of Taiwan by the communist Chinese,
00:43:30.020 uh, of Ukraine. I believe that Vladimir Putin, uh, sorely wishes he had not taken advantage of that
00:43:36.660 weakness because his army is his military is nothing like had been advertised or, uh, was viewed by
00:43:45.140 even, uh, by even NATO. It is, uh, it is a deadly standoff right now, uh, in Ukraine. I want to turn to,
00:43:54.420 uh, if you've got time, I want to share a personal story. Uh, a, a friend, uh, a family friend of ours who
00:44:03.140 has not had COVID had, uh, ulcers in her mouth, uh, that persisted for two months. Uh, and she would
00:44:13.700 take a shot and forgive me for not knowing what the shot was, but, uh, because of your, you're teaching
00:44:19.700 all of America about antivirals and the, uh, home treatments. This is a story about hydrogen peroxide,
00:44:27.620 as we were saying article after article saying it's a free radical and don't touch it.
00:44:33.060 We told her about your protocol with hydrogen peroxide, which we had used ourselves, my wife and I,
00:44:41.140 she used that, uh, that diluted peroxide. She did not use it nasally, but she did gargle with it.
00:44:50.660 And after frustrations, her, the doctors didn't know what to do and she had never had COVID quote
00:44:56.820 unquote, those ulcers finally disappeared with using that, uh, hydrogen peroxide, uh, diluted hydrogen,
00:45:05.460 hydrogen peroxide, uh, to gargle with. And I just want to say thank you, uh, for bringing that to the
00:45:12.660 public attention because it was so helpful. Uh, uh, you know, she still doesn't know what she had
00:45:18.100 to because they couldn't diagnose us. And this is several doctors she went to,
00:45:22.420 but, uh, it worked. And I just wanted you to know that, you know, we call those aphthous ulcers
00:45:28.100 and they're painful, the white painful ulcers you can see in the mouth. And some believe there's a
00:45:33.060 viral origin to them, whether or not there's a whole series of viruses in the mouth. The American
00:45:38.820 Dental Association has recommendations for virucidal therapy in the mouth, primarily for
00:45:44.900 periodontal disease. And interestingly, you know, there's a variety of solutions that work.
00:45:50.100 There's dilute povidone iodine or betadine. There's dilute hydrogen peroxide. There's actually
00:45:54.900 dilute sodium hypochlorite, which is dilute bleach. It's in the, uh, ADA guidelines. So, you know,
00:46:01.940 you have to really dilute it and don't swallow it. None of these you swallow, but these are very safe
00:46:07.540 agents. And now there's 12 clinical studies in COVID-19, three large randomized trials,
00:46:12.580 and it works for the common cold as well. I had a cold recently and I used the dilute povidone
00:46:18.020 iodine, just a half a teaspoon and a shot glass of water, one and a half ounces, uh, over the sink,
00:46:23.460 uh, get a little syringe or spray bottle, squirt it up the nose, sniff it back and then spit it out.
00:46:28.020 It's got to go all the way back and around and spit it out and then gargle with the rest,
00:46:31.380 do it twice on each side. It's amazing how quickly a cold will go away. And it's amazing with COVID-19,
00:46:38.180 how one can basically turn the PCR test negative, which is what the studies have shown quickly,
00:46:43.540 making someone less, less infectious. You want to reduce the spread of the virus,
00:46:47.460 use the oral nasal, uh, virucidal therapy approach. And then importantly, it markedly reduces
00:46:53.460 the intensity and severity of the illness. So people don't end up in the hospital.
00:46:57.460 Now we use other drugs and said, but, uh, you know, I just tweeted out about Jen Psaki. I said,
00:47:02.900 I bet she'll just need the, you know, it's called the McCullough protocol. It's now copyright.
00:47:06.580 I bet you'll just need that top part of the protocol, which is all available over the counter.
00:47:10.900 No, no prescriptions are needed. Well, I just wanted to say thank you for that. And, uh,
00:47:17.620 and by the way, my wife and I, when we did it, uh, uh, thinking that we, when we had been exposed
00:47:22.580 to COVID, but, uh, did not get it, uh, we credit, uh, your protocols. And, uh, uh, also, I know that, uh,
00:47:30.580 our family friend would like to, uh, would say, uh, thank you so much.
00:47:34.420 A couple of pointers. One, put a pinch of salt in it. It makes a little bit more like a physiologic
00:47:39.380 saline. And if it stings up there, it's too strong. Make sure you dilute it. It should be
00:47:44.660 very comfortable. It's just a little messy over the sink. I've even done it in my father-in-law who's
00:47:50.340 in the house. He's 98 years old. I had to help him, uh, but it works and it's, it's safe. I mean,
00:47:56.580 this is the type of thing. I recently went to Atlanta. I met with some distant family members
00:48:00.980 of Martin Luther King family and went over this for the African-American community. They said,
00:48:04.420 Dr. McCullough, are you telling us that hydrogen peroxide, something simple that's in our house
00:48:09.300 could have made a difference? You know, African-Americans have double the mortality
00:48:12.580 of COVID-19. I said, yes, we have to get the message out. This is so simple. Yeah. And every
00:48:18.980 household should have it, but you know, my heart goes out to most inner city hospitals. It's been, uh,
00:48:24.260 African-Americans and Hispanics have really, uh, really contributed. And it's part because
00:48:29.220 of the fact there's a lot more vertical households, right? Where there's children,
00:48:32.420 middle-aged and older people living under the same roof. And then partly because of higher rates of
00:48:37.620 obesity, diabetes, uh, heart and lung disease, but, but it's clear, uh, the demographics are clear
00:48:43.060 that that group is a group that we should really be focusing on public health messaging and the nasal
00:48:49.100 oral virucidal prevention. By the way, you used it preventively. It does work that way. If you
00:48:54.100 get exposed and you go ahead, go home and do this, it can actually, uh, knock out the infection before
00:48:59.460 it really takes hold. So I want to say thank you again for the McCullough protocols, for your voice
00:49:05.220 through this pandemic, as you well know, you and your colleagues made a tremendous difference for this
00:49:10.900 country and still are making a great difference for all of us. Well, thank you so much. Dr. Peter McCullough,
00:49:17.940 his podcast is America out loud. Thank you everybody for being with us here on the great
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