HAVE GLOBALISTS USED VIRUS TO CREATE NEW WORLD ORDER?
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The White House and Pentagon have been warning that President Putin is prepared to use bioweapon and chemical weapons against Ukrainian forces that have held off his army for weeks now. President Biden today said if Putin does use chemical weapons, the United States would respond in kind. In other developments, the Pentagon says Biden still wants a nuclear deal with Iran, but won t acknowledge the central role Russia has in negotiating that deal. And at home, Senate hearings for the judge nominated to the Supreme Court reveal a radical leftist.
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Hello, everybody. This is Lou Dobbs. The Russian forces surrounding Kiev are digging in,
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preparing defenses against increasingly successful counterattacks and assaults by the Ukrainian
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military and resistance. 100,000 Ukrainians remain trapped in Maripol, and the situation
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is grim for the survivors of near-constant Russian bombardment of the city. And President
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Zelensky is calling on Pope Francis to do everything in his power to persuade Vladimir
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Putin to meet Zelensky in talks aimed at calling a ceasefire. The White House and Pentagon have been
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warning that President Putin is prepared to use bioweapons and chemical weapons against the
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Ukrainian forces that have held off his army for weeks now. President Biden today said if Putin does
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use biochem weapons, the United States will respond, as he put it, in kind. Welcome to the Great
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America Show. Thanks for joining us. In other developments today, the Pentagon says Biden still
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wants a nuclear deal with Iran, but won't acknowledge the central role Russia has in negotiating that
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deal. President Biden is truly playing with fire and is committing constant constitutional overreach,
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whether at home or abroad, as he is now. And at home, Senate hearings for the judge nominated to the
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Supreme Court is clearly far outside the mainstream, and her record for eight years as a district court
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judge reveal a radical leftist, and there is hardly a record at all of her appellate court tenure,
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which amounts to little more than half a year. Judge Ketanji Brown-Jackson has apparently intimidated the
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Republican senators in her confirmation hearings because they haven't addressed her lack of
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experience, but not Senator Hawley and certainly not Senator Cruz. They've made it clear she's not
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mainstream in her conduct as a judge, associates herself with CRT, and is unquestionably an activist
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left-wing judge. As we've discussed here on the Great America Show, there's no legitimate,
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fact-based, scientific reason for President Biden to keep the enormous, extraordinary powers that were
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declared to deal with the COVID pandemic in 2020. And it's clear President Biden is intent on retaining
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those powers, despite the Senate's passage of a bill to end the national emergency. Biden obviously believes
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those extra powers will be helpful in the midterm elections, and he has threatened to veto any legislative effort to
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strip him of those extraordinary powers. And it's no accident that Dr. Fauci was back out in front of television
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cameras to talk up the new Omicron variant, to talk up the surge he now says he expects, and to warn us, of course, that we may
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have to go back to old restrictions. Even Fauci figured out that didn't play well with the American
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public, because it's plain we don't have an appetite for any more authoritarian rule or nonsense. No, the question
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is, will our new world order president understand fully that he has now overplayed his Marxist hand?
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Joining us here on the Great America Show is one of the leading doctors in the country, whose knowledge as a
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physician and his courage as a citizen awakened millions of Americans to the threats of big pharma and our
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big government to our freedom, and the limits and dangers of vaccines, medical orthodoxies, and
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bureaucratic authoritarianism, and the importance of treatment when it comes to the virus. With us now is
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Dr. Peter McCullough, internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and host of his own podcast called
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America Out Loud. Great to have you with us, doctor, and thanks for all you've done for this country and
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for all of us. So here we go. Let's start with the topic that is dominating the news space, but really
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not with any great context or explanation. And that is the BA-2 variant. President Biden telling us it's
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bad in Europe and it's going to get worse here. We'd like you to answer the question, just how bad or
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dangerous is BA-2? I can tell you, I think almost all people following the virus and media doctors have
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learned to be cautious about making predictions of these waves. The Omicron variant, which is the highly
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mutated form of the virus, it's gone through the sequence of wild type, alpha, beta, gamma, delta,
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and now Omicron. Omicron can be divided into two subvariants. One is BA-1, and the BA-1 variant
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is so mutated that actually one of the primers that the PCR test picks up, it's called the S-gene
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primer is missing. The BA-2 subvariant is actually a less mutated form of Omicron where the S-gene is
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actually present. So a PCR test that tests for that primer could actually tell BA-1 versus BA-2.
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The measures of infectivity come from in vitro studies, and they're actually hard to interpret
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because so many people have had the virus now. If someone with BA-2 runs up against somebody who
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previously had BA-1, they'd already have immunity, it wouldn't pass it to them. And so it's hard to
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calculate that. It's clear, though, that the BA-2 subvariant is finding pockets of susceptibility,
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particularly in Asia, Hong Kong, and I've been following the story in South Korea, which is
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interesting. South Korea is having far and away the largest rise in cases and deaths right now,
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and they're 93% fully vaccinated and boosted. Fully 90%, and they're having the worst experience.
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Right, 93%, yeah, fully vaccinated and boosted, and they're having the worst experience. And I
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think it speaks to the observation that the virus has mutated really to beyond the reach of the
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vaccines. There are two concurrent developments, and one involves, of course, the president himself
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maintaining that this is an emergency and persisting in the national emergency that he declared
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put into effect through an executive order. The pharmaceutical company, the pharma companies
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coming out, and in the case of Pfizer, saying that we're suspending our request for approval for their
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vaccine for children five and under, and Moderna, which is seeking emergency use authorization for
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theirs. Can you explain what that's about? Okay, so let's take the first part of the question. The
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emergency declarations originally were all predicated on the observation that we could overflow our
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hospitals, that there would be such a deluge of patients, the hospital capacity would be exceeded,
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and then we couldn't care for patients with other problems, and would just literally become a
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humanitarian disaster. Fortunately, over the two years, our hospitals have built more and more
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capacity, we have more and more skill in maintaining patients, and the successive viral mutations are less
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likely to lend somebody hospitalized because the virus itself is becoming less virulent, but also early
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treatments are far more effective. And, you know, just along those lines, before we get to the vaccines,
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there are two really positive developments. One is on February 11th, Lilly announced betar libamib,
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which is a new monoclonal antibody. It works against the current Omicron variant, and it's 175
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milligrams in 2 mLs of an infusion. So we literally give a quick infusion over 30 seconds, and they've
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committed to supply 600,000 doses to the United States, and this is a wonderful news. These monoclonal
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antibodies are safe and effective. I've used them now for a year and a half, and then AstraZeneca
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announced on February 24th that the EVU shield monoclonal antibody pair was EUA approved. Now,
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this is texagivimab and silgajivimab, and we basically give 300 milligrams of each intramuscularly,
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and then six months later, come back and give 150 milligrams intramuscularly, and it's approved for
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severely immunocompromised patients like transplant patients, as well as those who just can't take the
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vaccines because of severe allergic reactions. And, you know, this is the EVU shield in the AstraZeneca
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and Lilly products are advancements, and, you know, what's frustrating to me as a Dr. Liu is that there's
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no mention of this on TV. There's no public service announcements. The patients aren't aware,
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so each patient, we have to start a scramble to find it. I had two patients yesterday where EVU shield
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came up, and we again have had this oblivion to therapeutics while there's been a hyper focus on
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vaccines. And as you pointed out, the vaccine developments are not concordant. So with the
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Pfizer program under age five, it was based on basically trying to get an antibody rise,
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and the children's immune systems just weren't, you know, amenable to that at this point in time.
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They're receiving other vaccines for other reasons, and children of that age don't get
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clinically ill with COVID-19 anyway, so that was aborted. Now, the Moderna attempt ages six to 11,
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that was with 50 micrograms of Moderna messenger RNA, which is half the 100 microgram adult dose,
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and the study involved 4,700 children, but it was just predicated again on antibody rises,
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no clinical outcomes. So we know that children can basically get a runny nose in that age group.
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About 30 to 40 percent with the vaccine, though, get a pretty significant fever, and they get
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clinically sick. So many have thought that really the vaccine makes the kids sicker than COVID would
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itself. And so, you know, that's the reason why there's been this fractured response to pediatric
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vaccination. You probably heard Joe Ladapo, the new Surgeon General hired by Ron DeSantis,
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basically saying Florida's not going to support vaccination for children.
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Yeah, and the Surgeon General of Florida, he stands out, Governor Ron DeSantis stands out
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as being adamantly opposed and now making it a matter of regulation that they will not
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receive vaccinations. That's a strong statement. Do you concur?
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Well, they said that they just don't support it for children in the upper age range, I think could be 18
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on that. But, you know, it allows for exceptions. A child who's severely immunocompromised, one with
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cystic fibrosis, heart and lung disease. But this idea of just, you know, statewide vaccination of
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children, it's just not supportable based on the data.
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For this for kids under 12. And as you say, with exceptions, but at the same time, you know, what I've
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been hearing from you, from Dr. Malone, from others, is that children don't need really, and maybe I'm
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misinterpreting you and much of what I'm reading, but there's just no supported basis empirically
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for the children requiring a vaccine against Omicron, or frankly, for COVID.
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Yeah, it's true. And because the vaccines do have risks, I mean, there are vaccine deaths now published
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in the peer-reviewed literature of children taking the vaccine and suffer heart damage or other
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complications. And as the vaccine deaths rise in the Vaccine Averse Event Reporting System,
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now with the CDC reducing the number of COVID deaths in their data by 40% in children,
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there actually may be more vaccine-related deaths than COVID respiratory illness deaths in children.
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And so the balance, the risk-benefit balance is not in their favor. And so I agree with Ledeppo
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And on the issue of the CDC, one of the issues that everyone is struggling with, and I try to
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represent our audience in this, to trying to stay up with all of this while they're going about their
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business, very simply put, do they need to worry if they have a healthy child under the age 12 or under,
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should they or should they not, in your judgment, as a general principle, require a vaccine?
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And we are watching the news media still, despite all of the great work that you,
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what I call the doctors of dissent, who we owe a tremendous debt to, for bringing the American public
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to awareness of what actually is going on, the efforts to control our lives, to make decisions
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that are better left to the doctors. I think most Americans would every time want their doctor
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to make a medical or public health decision and help them in making, you know, my general view is
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when I go to my doctor, I concur. No matter what she says, I concur. And because she has,
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I think she's been right throughout our experiences, you know, as our family doctor.
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Uh, I just don't understand how we can get to a point where we have to challenge the CDC,
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our public health system, because we know, for example, uh, Pfizer has hidden statistics on
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adverse reactions. I suspect so has every other, uh, pharma company. We know the CDC hasn't been
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straightforward from the outset of this pandemic with the American people are forthcoming with data
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or are, are right. Uh, in many cases, how should we regard the CDC?
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I think you hit the nail on the head. You know, CDC has always been, uh, in service to doctors and
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not vice versa. The CDC, uh, is an outbreak investigation unit. It provides data. Uh, you know,
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I'm a cardiologist. So you believe it or not, the CDC has dietary recommendations that it puts out
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there and that's fine. Uh, but the CDC doesn't treat patients and it can't overreach and start to
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give dictums or rulings. Uh, there's no doubt about it. And the, um, the inconsistency with how
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the CDC has approached the pandemic over two years with things up and down and back and forth, uh,
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the public has really lost trust in the CDC. And I think because they've been really out of their,
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uh, range of activities, if they stayed in support of data and deferred to doctors on the decisions,
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we could keep the priorities where they need to be. You know, the average age of death of an American
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with COVID-19 is well into the eighties. The focus should always be on the seniors, Lou, that this,
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you know, this hyper focus on children and young people is misplaced.
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It misplaced, but it seems Moderna and Pfizer, uh, are sort of committed to a revenue stream,
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uh, that would include, uh, children, uh, five years, uh, six years old and under. Uh, and this
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to me, it's just stunning when lay people, uh, the great unwashed like me, uh, who know nothing
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about medicine, who know nothing about the science of genetics, uh, uh, and virology, we have to depend
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on our doctors and, uh, and we would be, uh, depending on our public health agencies, if they had been
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straight, uh, forthright and honest with us, uh, it's, it's just to me, a terrible thing, uh, to put
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the, uh, an American citizen, uh, parent, a family in that position. It's awful. Uh, and yet there's
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still this, there's this noise that surrounds the basic issue of whether or not I have to worry about
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my child and whether I need to get him or her a, a vaccination if they're 12 or under.
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Lou, there's a philosophical divide in thinking that's behind this. I think a lot of people don't
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understand the CDC and FDA and the NIH White House task force, their philosophical belief that it looks
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like it's driving everything is they really don't believe the vaccine program will work. They really
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don't unless every single person takes the vaccine. And because the vaccines don't last very long,
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that means everybody taking a vaccine every three to six months, it's baked into their belief system.
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And this is completely counter to how we use vaccines, uh, today, you know, as a, an adult internist
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and cardiologist, I use the pneumococcal vaccine, but it's, it's targeted towards our seniors. Same thing
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with the shingles vaccine. However, if a, if my child's going to go to college and they're going to be in,
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you know, congregate dormitory settings, they get the meningococcal vaccine. Everything is targeted
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and we rely on the vaccine to do what it says it's going to do. And I rely on them in my practice,
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but with COVID-19, there's a thought that this is a moonshot. If you will, I, I do have a belief
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that some people, they probably are staking their entire careers on this, that they want to go down
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in history as saving the world with a vaccine. And they're trying to blanket the entire world
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with repeated injections of novel vaccines, basically genetic vaccines. And it is the gamble
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of, uh, uh, basically of modern history, in my view. It's also a gamble that is, uh, using, uh,
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the American people as chips. Uh, and, and I, and I resent that and I'm troubled by it. And I don't,
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I don't see the logic of it because now we're here, Dr. Fauci again, who's once again, reemerged
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has gone in front of television cameras and said, now there's a surge coming. Uh, Europe had a surge
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and therefore we're going to have a surge of the BA2 variant of Omicron. Uh, and we don't know how
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deadly it will be. We do know it'll be highly trained, which is by the way, another interesting
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aspect. Yeah. We apparently know that it's 50% more transmissible, uh, this new variant BA2,
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but we don't know how deadly. And I, and he's already talking about more restrictions.
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Uh, I deeply resent it because he's, he doesn't explain he could take lessons from you for,
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for a week and still wouldn't understand how to communicate. I believe, uh, at least forthrightly
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and honestly, and with, uh, in a fashion that's explanatory and clear, uh, to the, to the lay
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person, what are we to think about? Yeah. Lou, the very first paper I published in 2020 on COVID-19
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and peer-reviewed literature, uh, the main point I was making is we need a U S hospital census
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of people admitted for COVID respiratory illness, not admitted for an ankle sprain who test positive
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for COVID, but you know, people with COVID respiratory illness, we have 5,600 hospitals
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in the United States, 2,200 acute care hospitals. And to this day, we still don't have that census.
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We have test positive cases, uh, which now, uh, uh, it's not capturing really what's going on
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because so many people are using store-bought over-the-counter tests that aren't registered.
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And then we have deaths which run in arrears by six weeks or so and have to wait for death
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certificates to be signed. And that's a laborious, uh, task. So we really don't have the data to
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inform us if a next wave is there. Uh, you know, we get these day-to-day hospital reports and we have
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to rely on them. We've been through alpha, delta, and Omicron so far, and we've never exceeded hospital
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capacity. The closest we got to it is right, uh, uh, after I testified in the U S Senate in October 19th
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of 2020, I told Americans, I said, listen, if we don't start early treatment, you're going to be
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horrified if we can't take care of people with heart attacks wave. And we nearly got to that
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brink. I think we're a few thousand below that brink during the alpha wave. Uh, but beyond that
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now, um, I think we're okay. Uh, if the next, if it's going to be BA two, uh, there, there could be
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a surge. Now, the majority of people with the BA one were fully vaccinated. And that's the reason why
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the curve was so high. Every single study with Omicron shows the majority of people who are getting
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are fully vaccinated. Uh, you have white house press secretary, Jen Psaki, who probably had Delta
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in the fall. She's fully vaccinated, almost certainly boosted. Uh, she had Delta in the fall.
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Now she's got Omicron now. Uh, I mean the vaccinated can expect to get illness. It's been my experience
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though. Uh, if they do get it, it's mild and it's manageable like a common cold manageable, but at the
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same time, uh, there's an open question out there as well. And that is, are, if the vaccine doesn't
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prevent the disease, which is what every, every, I think nearly every American thought of was the
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purpose of a vaccine, uh, instead it, uh, uh, it mitigates the symptoms and, uh, uh, helps you not
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go to the hospital, uh, a severe case, uh, all of which is great, uh, particularly if you're in my
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age group, but I don't understand how we got to, we sort of, uh, mutated to a situation where we're
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going to, we're told we may need four, may five, uh, vaccinations, uh, and they're still not going to
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stop, uh, these variants of COVID-19. It's, it's just seems there's some dishonesty, uh, here
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between our government, uh, and, uh, our pharmaceutical industry, uh, in, in, in all of
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this. Uh, and I, I can't, uh, you know, people ask me about it and I, and I have to say it's a,
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it's a head scratcher for sure. It sounds like you're frustrated like so many Americans. Uh, you
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know, I can tell you at least for the flu vaccine, the flu vaccine is minimally effective. It's safe.
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I took the flu vaccine this year. Uh, I was at a meeting in Washington last week and I asked one
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of the, the flu vaccine experts for the NIH. I said, what was the coverage of this year? What
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protection did I really get? And he said, the number was 17%. That's what, yeah. Yeah. So it's,
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it's, it's pretty small. Okay. So I took it, you know, I'm supposed to do it as a doctor. I don't
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have a problem with it. Uh, we were now past a year with the COVID-19 vaccines. It's known that the
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virus has mutated considerably. Remember the randomized trials of Pfizer Moderna against
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the binary endpoint of COVID-19 respiratory illness at home. It prevented 90% of cases.
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It was, it was effective against the wild type and probably a little bit of the alpha variant,
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but now that it's mutated all the way through Omicron, uh, we, you know, the, the vaccines were
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never modified to cover the new, in a sense, the new spike protein on Omicron. Cause it's a very
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narrow vaccine. Uh, so we don't have coverage now. And so this idea of keep pushing the vaccine that
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essentially is obsolete is making people frustrated. And it gets, um, apparently the ops obsolescence,
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if I could use the expression occurs rapidly within, uh, in some cases, uh, even under 90 days,
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uh, according to some of the tests that I've read about, uh, that was never envisioned. That was never,
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uh, imagined. Uh, and it's had a significant effect. We've got 70, almost 73 fourths of the
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population have had at least one shot, one vaccination. Uh, my goodness, uh, for that to
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have lasted only 30 days or 90 days, uh, whatever number they want to pull out of the, out of their
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testing. Uh, it just, it just seems like they've gone to absolutely no trouble to explain that to the
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American people. They haven't. And there's, uh, almost certainly ecological pressures that played
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a role. Do you know, social distancing and lockdowns, the first time we've done this in
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least in our, uh, you know, my lifetime for sure. Right. It, you know, that actually it's thought
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maybe put evolutionary pressures to make the virus more contagious. It literally had to jump greater
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distances to infect one another. And then we put in the vaccines and the vaccines, because they're
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narrowly applied against the spike protein, the virus quickly figured out how to mutate,
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create a little different confirmation of spike protein, and then create what's called antigenic
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escape. It literally can escape the effect. So the vaccine raises up antibodies, but it misses the
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target because the virus is cleverly mutated. So the, the antibodies can't hit the, hit the target.
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So the vaccination program almost certainly has led to the hyper dominance of these mutants. If we
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would have had a blend, you know, before the vaccine program, we always had a blend of variants.
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There never was a single variant. It was a blend of variants. So you'd have a chance natural immunity
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could fight this down. We could treat the virus. Now with the vaccination program, we, we basically
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created the Delta variant of, you know, it was, there was a hundred percent Delta at one point in time.
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Now, a hundred percent Omicron, the vaccine program, there's three analyses, one by
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Supermanian camp and BD now showing the mass vaccination program, as opposed to a targeted program
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is basically backfiring worldwide. Well, let me turn to what should we do. There is a interesting
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to me, a role that suddenly public health agencies have taken on in this. There was at least a little
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modesty, a little humility in the early months because they didn't know what they were dealing
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with. They had no pretense that they knew what was going on. And once they got the vaccine, suddenly
00:26:13.580
the public health agencies were, were absolutely, uh, certitude was, uh, permeating the bureaucracy.
00:26:22.100
Uh, it was also flooding the airwaves. And now we're at a point where people forgotten about the
00:26:29.560
science. Uh, Fauci said he's Mr. Science and suddenly, uh, no one else could be. Uh, but right now I I'm not
00:26:38.940
convinced that our public health agencies are following science. I'm not convinced pharma is
00:26:44.540
doing so, uh, because frankly, I think they're more interested in getting a younger, uh, target market
00:26:52.420
and boosting their revenue that straightforwardly. Am I wrong? It almost seems that way. You know,
00:27:00.700
I can tell you one of the biggest check boxes that we don't see anybody talking about that is who's
00:27:07.640
already had COVID. This is really important because, uh, you know, as we're dealing with our military
00:27:14.340
and employees and travel, we need to know who's actually already had the illness, a well-documented
00:27:19.820
case. Uh, there is a paper from Johns Hopkins. Uh, first author is a Legio and colleagues showing a
00:27:25.800
well-documented case of having COVID. There's a 99% chance they have very strong immunity by the
00:27:31.640
antibodies. If they get a second infection, it's almost always mild. Like John Saki is having right now.
00:27:37.140
And one really doesn't need to be alarmed. Uh, we need to know who's had the illness and who,
00:27:42.920
who hasn't. We need to know who's the, who's on the Delta force, who's on the A team, who's not
00:27:47.500
going to get really sick and who is, uh, you know, relatively protected. We don't have second or third
00:27:54.000
cases where people are ending up on the ventilators. It doesn't happen. Uh, even the, uh, wild type
00:27:59.500
through the Delta in a paper from Qatar, New England Journal of Medicine, they showed it's 60%
00:28:04.320
protective even against Omicron. So that's the reason why Omicron shifted and attacked the
00:28:08.600
vaccinated because it really couldn't infect, uh, to a great degree, those who already had the
00:28:13.540
natural immunity from COVID recovered. So as more and more people come COVID recovered, we need that
00:28:18.860
checkbox. If tomorrow we created a registry, employers had a registry, those people clearly
00:28:24.120
don't need vaccines. In fact, there are three studies showing somebody who's recovered, who takes
00:28:28.200
a vaccine is just asking for trouble, more reactions and problems. Uh, you know, getting back to the
00:28:33.080
fundamentals. If you were to, if you were to track a chickenpox outbreak, when we were kids,
00:28:36.980
the first thing you want to know is has the kid already had chickenpox? That's the first thing you
00:28:40.800
want to know. And so to ignore whether or not someone has already had this, and this was a point
00:28:46.680
Scott Atlas made when he was on the white house task force is a major scientific blunder. We should
00:28:52.460
always be first and foremost, checking a box to see if we had it. I work in, in large cardiology
00:28:57.600
practice in Dallas, Fort Worth, and that's a checkbox we have on our forms. We actually want to know
00:29:02.300
who has already had COVID because we know that we're going to be safe out in the workplace and
00:29:07.160
in the hospital. And, and that is the purpose of asking that question, uh, as to whether or not,
00:29:14.540
uh, they need to be vaccinated. Correct. That's a big piece to it. Uh, you know, it's clear
00:29:22.000
that the FDA agreed on this. The FDA said nobody who's had COVID-19 in the past should be in the
00:29:28.320
randomized trials of vaccination, nobody. So the FDA strictly excluded them and we should follow
00:29:33.460
that guidance. You know, once the public program started, there tend to be kind of a creep and
00:29:38.580
people said, well, if you had COVID, you can take an extra one. Maybe it would kind of give you a
00:29:42.820
little extra jazz. And we're like, wait a minute, we never do that. If people are excluded from the
00:29:47.760
randomized trials, also pregnant women were excluded, women at childbearing potential, they were
00:29:52.360
excluded. Uh, we can't just go ahead and give it a, give it a whirl out in the public program with a,
00:29:58.220
a, a novel vaccine. We should have followed the strict regulatory discipline and it's leaving that
00:30:05.840
discipline that got us in trouble. You mentioned, uh, the release of the Pfizer data, the public
00:30:11.060
health and professional review committee that the, um, the lawsuit lined up led by Aaron Siri against
00:30:16.640
Pfizer and the FDA. Remember Pfizer wanted delayed release of the data for 55 years. And then they
00:30:21.940
doubled down to over 70 years. Finally, the, the judge prevailed, the court prevailed and said,
00:30:25.780
listen, release the data over the next eight to nine months. The first tranche of information came
00:30:30.320
out. Pfizer knew about 1,223 deaths shortly worldwide, shortly after their use of their vaccine,
00:30:38.040
people were reporting it to Pfizer. They thought the vaccine caused these deaths,
00:30:41.280
1,291 special adverse events of interest, a whole range of various diseases that are now written up
00:30:47.860
in the literature that the vaccine causes. So granted the majority of people took the vaccine
00:30:52.180
are fine. There's people in my family downstairs, Lou, who took the vaccine, they're fine. And I hope
00:30:57.160
they have some modicum of protection, but there are others who've been injured and Senator Ron Johnson
00:31:02.300
now has proposed legislation to have some compensation for them because they're frustrated. They took the
00:31:07.980
vaccine because they were told to, uh, now they suffered a complication and that is good for him.
00:31:15.660
And that's the responsible thing for our government to do. There's been some irresponsibility, uh, as
00:31:21.920
the public health agencies in my judgment have gone about this, you've described some of it, uh, uh, other
00:31:28.540
doctors who have been on the point of the spear, uh, trying to break the orthodoxy and, and, and bring
00:31:35.780
rationality, uh, to the, to the vaccine enterprise. And I'm not referring to the pharma companies. I'm
00:31:41.940
talking about the enterprise itself of, uh, moving this program out, getting people vaccinated and
00:31:47.460
reacting to the, the COVID quote unquote emergency. We are now at the point with where you have said,
00:31:54.740
uh, and other doctors, you have said, I think, straightforwardly, we don't have a national
00:32:00.100
emergency because it was the predicate was hospitals overflowing, unable to deal with a number of
00:32:06.260
patients and preempting other care, uh, that other citizens would need besides the COVID patients.
00:32:13.460
Uh, the Senate has passed a bill to rescind that national emergency. Now the cynics are saying this
00:32:22.340
administration is persisting in that, uh, emergency for its own purposes for control. The left has shown
00:32:29.140
that it's, uh, has an authority, more than an authoritarian streak that they have authoritarian
00:32:34.820
imperatives within their philosophy, their ideology, which is if not Marxist verging on Marxist. Uh,
00:32:42.900
what is the reality here in your judgment? Should that state of emergency be removed? Not as a political
00:32:51.060
matter as a science. The state of emergency, um, is really what the whole house
00:32:59.140
is built upon. Uh, and the state of emergency is the basis for the overreach. And so the overreach
00:33:06.340
is actually not regulatory, but it's almost determined by each employer, each entity, each
00:33:12.020
sports team, uh, to, to really incredible degrees. And we're seeing really a quixotic type of approach
00:33:19.380
where one day there's testing every week and vaccines, the next week they drop everything. And we're seeing
00:33:24.580
this up and down all over the place. And it's because of this, this emergency word is hanging
00:33:30.900
over everyone. Uh, I, on January 24th in the U S Senate, I made the case and as well supported by
00:33:37.700
former white house advisor, um, Paul Alexander, who's reviewed all the data on this, uh, that the
00:33:42.500
emergency phase is over. There's still a pandemic, but the emergency phase is over. We can focus on
00:33:47.860
on therapeutics and handling things from here. Uh, but declarations of a emergency should be
00:33:52.980
dropped across the country, allowing people to basically go back to normal. We saw president
00:33:58.660
Biden actually in a clip on, on the news and some type of forum saying that, you know, COVID-19 has
00:34:04.500
become an opportunity, uh, an opportunity for a new world order. And it's, it's really, uh, I think
00:34:11.540
very, uh, dark. It's in line with Klaus Schwab's book that says, uh, you know, the great reset.
00:34:18.020
And I think people mean that you, you, you said the word totalitarian. I mean, that is about as
00:34:22.980
un-American a word I can think of, uh, but it's coming, it's creeping right in. You can,
00:34:27.300
you can see it. It's in the open. And it's, it's, it's swept Canada, uh, Australia. My gosh. I mean,
00:34:34.900
what I, what I witnessed in that freedom convoy, uh, what all Americans, uh, who watched it
00:34:40.900
saw was, uh, it, uh, it would have been unthinkable, uh, a few years ago, uh, but to see
00:34:49.060
Justin Trudeau behaving like a 10 pot dictator, uh, who, a man who has impaired intellectual abilities
00:34:57.780
to begin with, uh, in that performance, but, uh, calling out the, their emergency act, uh, he's,
00:35:06.500
he swore it wasn't martial law. It was just an emergency act, but stripped,
00:35:10.100
uh, Canadians have so many of their constitutional rights. Uh, he wanted to, uh, to extend it as well.
00:35:18.020
We now know that this, this will go beyond today. Uh, this, uh, this extension of the
00:35:25.140
national emergency powers, given the, the executive branch, uh, we have, we have to end this now,
00:35:31.860
uh, because it's, it's, it is just, it's un-American. Um, not only is it totalitarian, but it is, it is
00:35:41.540
damaging the country in ways, whether it's the closure of schools and the ability to keep them
00:35:46.340
open, but whether it is damaging children as a result of having to wear masks mandates, all of
00:35:52.580
that has to go away, uh, in my opinion, and I want yours. And Lou, it's wasting money. You know,
00:35:58.500
we've covered vaccines and some other topics, but there's a paper in JAMA open, uh, a research
00:36:05.380
letter by Connor and colleagues, and it evaluated 1 million, uh, I'm sorry, 179, 127 people in a routine
00:36:15.380
testing, uh, in a workplace, uh, mean age, 36 years old, young workers. It, this study is like
00:36:23.140
every other study done of asymptomatic testing. The yield of doing weekly testing is less than 1%.
00:36:29.380
In this study, it was a 0.35% positivity rate of those who that were positively 62% were false
00:36:36.660
positive. Now there's been study after study showing that all this massive testing of people
00:36:41.860
who are well getting on airplanes in school and workplaces has less than a 1% yield. And when it's
00:36:47.300
positive, it misleads the worker and the employer. We need to drop asymptomatic testing. The FDA has
00:36:53.060
never supported it. The world health organization has never supported it. And again, it's, it's an
00:36:57.620
overreach by employers. I think out of fear and, and, and out of lack of good leadership from
00:37:03.940
governments, government should be telling employers, listen, uh, you know, go ahead and drop this.
00:37:08.340
You don't need to do it. And with, with president Biden threatening to veto the Senate legislation
00:37:14.740
that they just passed to rescind the national emergency. Uh, this is Orwellian, uh, the power
00:37:21.300
is in his hands and he has the power to keep it in his hands, at least until they could, uh, override
00:37:27.780
that veto. And with this, uh, this, uh, conference, this democratic conference in the Senate and the
00:37:34.340
House, there is no way in the world that they would yield one iota of this, uh, one ounce of this power
00:37:41.700
that they now have, particularly, uh, not until after the 2022, uh, midterms, uh, I see without
00:37:50.900
question, uh, uh, a, an administration that is absolutely committed, uh, to its agenda and to
00:37:58.900
stripping our, our government of, uh, its responsibilities to the people, uh, in order
00:38:05.620
that, uh, a different form of government will emerge. It's unprecedented in American history,
00:38:12.100
uh, a government that has been weaponized against its people, uh, and with an indifference to actually
00:38:19.220
the health of the people, uh, or the science that they profess to follow. Uh, your thoughts on the
00:38:26.100
context of all of this, the, the medical emergency, the pandemic, uh, and the response of pharma, uh,
00:38:33.060
and the government. It's been a confluence. It's, it's a coup d'etat using the, the, the Trojan horse,
00:38:41.940
if you will, of a medical pandemic, uh, you know, that's been the entree to a new way of thinking.
00:38:48.660
And many think it's been a brewing now for several years, this kind of globalist agenda,
00:38:54.180
waiting for the opportunity as Klaus Schwab outlines in his book, just waiting for this to happen.
00:39:00.180
Uh, and there are so many interested parties, right? So you have, uh, China and the Chinese
00:39:04.980
communist party, you have the pharmaceutical companies and, and the National Institutes
00:39:10.420
of Health and CEPI and GAVI and EcoHealth Alliance, the Gates Foundation, uh, World Economic Forum,
00:39:17.140
the, um, uh, uh, Rockefeller Institute. You can, uh, in Peter Bregan's book, COVID-19 and the
00:39:23.620
global predators. We are the prey. That's a great read. A nonfiction has a thousand citations really
00:39:29.700
lays out how complicated this is. Uh, but what a sweeping change it's having all over the world.
00:39:35.860
It's not just the United States. You've already pointed out in some places in the globe, uh,
00:39:40.020
is far more severe. Uh, I think almost everybody recognizes, uh, this is not a dire emergency. This
00:39:47.860
isn't a tsunami or, or a nuclear Holocaust. Uh, uh, this is a, uh, for most people, a mild viral
00:39:54.580
illness, uh, some more severe that now we can manage. Uh, we have a great advance in therapeutics
00:40:00.420
now, and I think there should be no more controversies on treating COVID-19. We have
00:40:04.580
plenty of products that the new oral Pfizer drug is terrific. Uh, these new, new drugs I reviewed today,
00:40:10.260
the monoclonal antibodies are terrific. So even one basically can act as a preventive, uh, almost
00:40:15.860
certainly far more effective than a vaccine. Uh, so it's the, uh, context of a viral pandemic
00:40:22.820
and the, in an instrument, a major instrument of totalitarian rule is the vaccine program.
00:40:29.860
Absolutely. And, uh, and I thank you for, for saying that because we have to, and I'm talking
00:40:38.340
to everyone in the audience, we have to urge our representatives and our senators now to rescind this
00:40:45.860
national emergency. And it needs to become a very big deal right now, because otherwise it's going
00:40:52.100
to be abused. We have a president. I'm not going to get into the issue of whether he should even be
00:40:57.140
in the oval office, but the fact that he is, and with obvious limited again, uh, some impairment, uh,
00:41:04.820
and with also, uh, the conflicts that he has, he is, he is conflicted with his interests and his
00:41:13.620
family's interest in China, in Russia, in Ukraine and in Iran. Uh, and at the same time, the four
00:41:23.780
principal powers arrayed against the United States right now, we have a president who is an absolute
00:41:31.140
position of conflict of interest and who has a history, uh, and frankly, a sordid one, uh,
00:41:39.140
with, uh, three of the four, uh, state actors. Uh, we have to act, ladies and gentlemen, please
00:41:47.780
get ahold of your representative, contact them, uh, and we will be putting up a petition right, uh,
00:41:54.500
right away on our website, uh, to do so. Uh, it's, it's urgent, uh, what we have to do here.
00:42:01.380
Would you agree, doctor? I agree. I think that's the most
00:42:04.820
concrete step that can be taken is to, uh, stop the declaration of emergency and have restoration
00:42:12.100
to normal while we recognize where, you know, we're dealing with this medical problem, revert advice
00:42:18.500
and, um, and the next medical steps to doctors, have the CDC actually step down on recommendations,
00:42:25.220
same as with the national institutes of health, FDA needs to return to being a safety watchdog,
00:42:30.740
and they need to immediately call Pfizer and understand why these people died and how things
00:42:35.940
can be corrected. The vaccine manufacturers can offer their products and, uh, they'll have to make
00:42:43.380
the case for them and Americans can decide if they think there's a compelling case. Someone needs,
00:42:49.140
you know, it's obvious the products have risk and where there's risk, there must be choice. It seems
00:42:54.340
to me, you know, I had traveled to Russia a few years ago and, uh, you know, I heard the nationalistic
00:42:59.860
statements when I was over there then, uh, you know, they have a regret for perestroika. They want
00:43:05.380
restoration of the Soviet union and some of the states back. And it's clear this has been going on for
00:43:11.060
a few years now, they waited for a vulnerable time and they went for it. And you can see when the
00:43:16.260
vulnerable time was in the leadership in the white house. Yeah. Uh, no question. In my opinion,
00:43:23.380
Joe Biden in the white house is an invitation to the takeover of Taiwan by the communist Chinese,
00:43:30.020
uh, of Ukraine. I believe that Vladimir Putin, uh, sorely wishes he had not taken advantage of that
00:43:36.660
weakness because his army is his military is nothing like had been advertised or, uh, was viewed by
00:43:45.140
even, uh, by even NATO. It is, uh, it is a deadly standoff right now, uh, in Ukraine. I want to turn to,
00:43:54.420
uh, if you've got time, I want to share a personal story. Uh, a, a friend, uh, a family friend of ours who
00:44:03.140
has not had COVID had, uh, ulcers in her mouth, uh, that persisted for two months. Uh, and she would
00:44:13.700
take a shot and forgive me for not knowing what the shot was, but, uh, because of your, you're teaching
00:44:19.700
all of America about antivirals and the, uh, home treatments. This is a story about hydrogen peroxide,
00:44:27.620
as we were saying article after article saying it's a free radical and don't touch it.
00:44:33.060
We told her about your protocol with hydrogen peroxide, which we had used ourselves, my wife and I,
00:44:41.140
she used that, uh, that diluted peroxide. She did not use it nasally, but she did gargle with it.
00:44:50.660
And after frustrations, her, the doctors didn't know what to do and she had never had COVID quote
00:44:56.820
unquote, those ulcers finally disappeared with using that, uh, hydrogen peroxide, uh, diluted hydrogen,
00:45:05.460
hydrogen peroxide, uh, to gargle with. And I just want to say thank you, uh, for bringing that to the
00:45:12.660
public attention because it was so helpful. Uh, uh, you know, she still doesn't know what she had
00:45:18.100
to because they couldn't diagnose us. And this is several doctors she went to,
00:45:22.420
but, uh, it worked. And I just wanted you to know that, you know, we call those aphthous ulcers
00:45:28.100
and they're painful, the white painful ulcers you can see in the mouth. And some believe there's a
00:45:33.060
viral origin to them, whether or not there's a whole series of viruses in the mouth. The American
00:45:38.820
Dental Association has recommendations for virucidal therapy in the mouth, primarily for
00:45:44.900
periodontal disease. And interestingly, you know, there's a variety of solutions that work.
00:45:50.100
There's dilute povidone iodine or betadine. There's dilute hydrogen peroxide. There's actually
00:45:54.900
dilute sodium hypochlorite, which is dilute bleach. It's in the, uh, ADA guidelines. So, you know,
00:46:01.940
you have to really dilute it and don't swallow it. None of these you swallow, but these are very safe
00:46:07.540
agents. And now there's 12 clinical studies in COVID-19, three large randomized trials,
00:46:12.580
and it works for the common cold as well. I had a cold recently and I used the dilute povidone
00:46:18.020
iodine, just a half a teaspoon and a shot glass of water, one and a half ounces, uh, over the sink,
00:46:23.460
uh, get a little syringe or spray bottle, squirt it up the nose, sniff it back and then spit it out.
00:46:28.020
It's got to go all the way back and around and spit it out and then gargle with the rest,
00:46:31.380
do it twice on each side. It's amazing how quickly a cold will go away. And it's amazing with COVID-19,
00:46:38.180
how one can basically turn the PCR test negative, which is what the studies have shown quickly,
00:46:43.540
making someone less, less infectious. You want to reduce the spread of the virus,
00:46:47.460
use the oral nasal, uh, virucidal therapy approach. And then importantly, it markedly reduces
00:46:53.460
the intensity and severity of the illness. So people don't end up in the hospital.
00:46:57.460
Now we use other drugs and said, but, uh, you know, I just tweeted out about Jen Psaki. I said,
00:47:02.900
I bet she'll just need the, you know, it's called the McCullough protocol. It's now copyright.
00:47:06.580
I bet you'll just need that top part of the protocol, which is all available over the counter.
00:47:10.900
No, no prescriptions are needed. Well, I just wanted to say thank you for that. And, uh,
00:47:17.620
and by the way, my wife and I, when we did it, uh, uh, thinking that we, when we had been exposed
00:47:22.580
to COVID, but, uh, did not get it, uh, we credit, uh, your protocols. And, uh, uh, also, I know that, uh,
00:47:30.580
our family friend would like to, uh, would say, uh, thank you so much.
00:47:34.420
A couple of pointers. One, put a pinch of salt in it. It makes a little bit more like a physiologic
00:47:39.380
saline. And if it stings up there, it's too strong. Make sure you dilute it. It should be
00:47:44.660
very comfortable. It's just a little messy over the sink. I've even done it in my father-in-law who's
00:47:50.340
in the house. He's 98 years old. I had to help him, uh, but it works and it's, it's safe. I mean,
00:47:56.580
this is the type of thing. I recently went to Atlanta. I met with some distant family members
00:48:00.980
of Martin Luther King family and went over this for the African-American community. They said,
00:48:04.420
Dr. McCullough, are you telling us that hydrogen peroxide, something simple that's in our house
00:48:09.300
could have made a difference? You know, African-Americans have double the mortality
00:48:12.580
of COVID-19. I said, yes, we have to get the message out. This is so simple. Yeah. And every
00:48:18.980
household should have it, but you know, my heart goes out to most inner city hospitals. It's been, uh,
00:48:24.260
African-Americans and Hispanics have really, uh, really contributed. And it's part because
00:48:29.220
of the fact there's a lot more vertical households, right? Where there's children,
00:48:32.420
middle-aged and older people living under the same roof. And then partly because of higher rates of
00:48:37.620
obesity, diabetes, uh, heart and lung disease, but, but it's clear, uh, the demographics are clear
00:48:43.060
that that group is a group that we should really be focusing on public health messaging and the nasal
00:48:49.100
oral virucidal prevention. By the way, you used it preventively. It does work that way. If you
00:48:54.100
get exposed and you go ahead, go home and do this, it can actually, uh, knock out the infection before
00:48:59.460
it really takes hold. So I want to say thank you again for the McCullough protocols, for your voice
00:49:05.220
through this pandemic, as you well know, you and your colleagues made a tremendous difference for this
00:49:10.900
country and still are making a great difference for all of us. Well, thank you so much. Dr. Peter McCullough,
00:49:17.940
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