IF THERE’S A RED WAVE, IT’S NOT BECAUSE GOP DID ANYTHING GREAT, IT’S BECAUSE THE DEMS TOOK THE COUNTRY DOWN A PATH WE DIDN’T WANT TO GO
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John McLaughlin of the McLaughlin Group joins Lou Dobbs on the Great America Show to talk about the mid-term election, the economy, inflation, and the economy. Plus, a look ahead to the midterms and a look at the latest polling numbers.
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Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Show and great to have you with us.
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So here we are, the most important, most consequential, absolutely existential midterm election,
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one week away. Still hard to believe that the election that will decide the fate of the
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republic and the future of Marxism in America are only seven days out. I hope everybody's ready to
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make some history in this election. I'm ready, I'm prepared, I'm anxious, I'm eager to get in that
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polling booth and vote like our lives depend on the outcome because the results of this election
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will shape our lives and those of our children and grandchildren for years to come. And God help us
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if the Marxist left tries to steal another election and gets away with it. So here's where we are,
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at least in the view of the latest polling. I'm more than pleased to tell you Republicans are in
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a strong position going into the election. The Trafalgar polls show Biden with a dismal approval
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rating. The Gallup-CBS News-YouGov polling reveals an electorate that is absolutely fed up with a
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country that's out of control and certainly fed up with a Democrat party that's in charge of the
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White House, the Senate and Congress. Most Americans are being clobbered by high inflation,
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as we know, and high interest rates. And the economy is slowing. Talk of diesel shortages in
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just a few weeks. That would mean a disruption in almost every sector of our economy if it happens.
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And the bad news for the Dems is voters will hold them responsible for it all. Seventy-nine percent
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of voters say the country is headed in the wrong direction. Seventy-nine percent. The generic
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Congress poll shows Democrats' problems worsening. Republicans have opened up a seven-point lead.
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The real clear politics projection now is a Republican route. The GOP will take back the
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House with a margin of 30 to 50 seats if that projection proves true. And in the Senate,
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the RCP projection is GOP plus three. Folks, it appears right now there will indeed be
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a red wave this election cycle. And if so, it will mean that you and I voted. I hope you all will
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vote like our lives depend on the result because that's the fact. Our lives depend on winning this
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election outright. Our guest today is a great American, noted GOP political strategist, top
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pollster John McLaughlin of the McLaughlin Group. And John, welcome back to the Great America Show.
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Great to have you here. The numbers all look positive. They look good. Just how good will
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we have that red wave we all have been waiting for? Well, the red wave is not because the Republicans
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have done anything great as much as that the Democrats are taking the country down a path we
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don't want to go. In our most recent national survey that we completed on October 17th, 65 percent of all
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voters said that the country's on the wrong track. If they were in that 65 percent, they said it's Joe
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Biden's fault, 67 to 25. And the Republicans are working on getting that up since then. In August,
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the generic vote was 45-45 for Congress. It was a tie. September is 48 Republican, 44 Democrat.
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Democrat. This month, it's 49 Republican, 43 Democrat. That's, you know, the highest we've seen
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since probably 1994. Being an old man, I remember delivering a poll to Newt Gingrich and the House
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leadership, Bob Michael, that the Republicans were up seven in September of 94. And I said,
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I've never seen that before. But don't compromise with the Clintons and take, you know, ride the contract
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into a new majority. And they did. And what you've got this time is you've got 60 percent of the six
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out of 10 voters saying the country's in a recession. And when we asked them, is the economy getting
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worse or better? Only 26 percent said better. 67 percent said worse. What's really scary is that
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when we asked about if people have been impacted by inflation, 85 percent said they had.
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You know, John, that is the most, to me, dramatic number in your poll to see that level of response
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to has inflation affected your family. I mean, that's a stunning number.
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Yeah. And what's stunning about it is not just the breadth of the number of people affected by it
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is the number one issue, but it's 47 percent of all Americans saying that they've been impacted so much
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that they're cutting back or it's affecting basic necessities. So, you know, this is, you know,
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in Biden, he's he's running the strategic oil reserves down to zero to keep the price low.
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And he's begging the Saudis and Venezuelans for gas and oil. And it's a disgrace. But but the bad part is
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it's it's the cost of food. It's the cost of essentials. It's utility bills. It's trying to
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make their rent. And, you know, when 47 percent of all Americans say it's affecting so that they're
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struggling to meet basic necessities. That's a crisis. If you don't mind, I'd like to while you're here,
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I'd like to everybody have an opportunity to see and hear you on exactly what is happening and why
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on a love on a broad range of issues. I want to talk and put it in context. I want to see two big
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states, Pennsylvania and and New York, what's happening there. And in New York, Lee Zeldin,
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Congressman Lee Zeldin running for governor, has now pulled ahead in the latest polling
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of ahead of his Democrat incumbent opponent. And let's just listen to part of the debate between
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the two, Hockel and Zeldin. Here is Zeldin. My opponent still can't finish this sentence. You
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can't expect her to ever fix it. But New York leads the entire nation in population loss because
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she actually got asked this question by the media a few weeks ago when she was at Binghamton
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Airport. She probably would love to have a redo because she messed it up that time. For me,
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you ask me, why does New York lead the entire nation in population loss? Because their wallets,
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their safety, their freedom and their quality of their kids education are under attack. So they're
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hitting their breaking point. They're looking at other states like the Carolinas, Tennessee, Texas,
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Florida and elsewhere. And they feel like their money will go further. They'll feel safer and they'll live
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life freer. The state is at a crossroads. We're at a crossroads in 1994 when New York elected George
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Pataki. And we're at a crossroads right now. But as far as what happens with Kathy Hochul and one
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party rule for four more years, outsized power of self-described socialists, we need balance and
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common sense restored to Albany. That was a summation of why New Yorkers should elect Lee Zeldin.
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The best summation I have heard from any candidate since, frankly, Donald Trump. It was brilliant. It
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was terrific. Your response? Well, full disclosure, I work for Lee and I've always worked for Lee since
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he ran for Congress in 2008. He wasn't successful, but he's stuck with it. And you've got a person who's
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on a mission where, I mean, this is a person who volunteered to serve in Iraq after he was done
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with college. And he did go in the Army Airborne and he did serve. And he came back and he wanted
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to get involved in public service. And he has. And, you know, he ran in a race for Congress in 2008.
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He wasn't going to win. He knew it from the polling. I don't think he believed my polls. He was trying to
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win. And he ended up eventually getting elected to state Senate there and then winning that seat
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for Congress in 2014. And he's been a part of change ever since then. And when Andrew Cuomo was
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governor, Lee got into the race and people said, you can't win. And he said, well, the state's going
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in the wrong direction. I'm going to run and I'm going to try to, you know, win this race. And he
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challenged Cuomo and, you know, Cuomo got caught with scandals and other things that were wrong.
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And he's been on a mission to repeal cashless bail, fire, Alvin Bragg, turn things around. You've got
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a crime crisis in New York. You've got an economic crisis in New York. You have their schools. The
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kids have fallen behind. And you've got the immigration crisis has come to New York that Eric Adams can't
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handle. And Lee's on a mission to fix all these things, what he calls to save our state.
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So I know from the polls that we're in a dead heat right now. I know some polls have us a little
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ahead. We have us, you know, slightly behind, but hopefully the sitting governor is under 50%.
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I wish the election was tomorrow, but there's a lot of Democrats that are leaving the Democrat
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One would think that that would be a natural reflex to what all ails New York. New York,
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as Lee Zeldin said, one party rule. This is a disaster, what the Democrats have done to New
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York, just as not perhaps as large as the disaster that Biden has done to the United States.
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But that's only a matter of scale and difference. I want to cut to Pennsylvania, where another
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debate, Oz, Dr. Oz, running against John Fetterman, impaired, obviously unable, unfit to stand for
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office. But the Dems, as we know, given Biden and everything else, are not in any way hesitant to put up
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a man who is really in terrible shape. But here is Dr. Oz responding to John Fetterman.
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We have a catastrophe at the border, and we should not have sanctuary cities, as John Fetterman has
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tried to introduce. But I've been into the parts of Philadelphia and Allentown and Reading, where we
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have large Latino populations. I understand the challenges of the border. My father was an
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immigrant. My mother were immigrants. You know, I understand what legal immigration offers us. But
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the completely porous, open nature of our border, which John Fetterman supports, has created a
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humanitarian crisis with cartels profiting, with human trafficking operations. They take the money,
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they buy narcotics from China, and bring that into our country. And it's making every state a border
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state. Pennsylvania is already a border state, because we're top three in the country in fentanyl
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overdoses. At least I can't go anywhere where I'm giving a big event where I don't meet multiple
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people who say their personal lives have been destroyed because of fentanyl overdoses. Yet John
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Fetterman not only wants an open border, not only supports sanctuary cities, but he wants to legalize
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all hard drugs in America, including narcotics. That is, I mean, out of touch with everybody. That
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radical position was tried in Oregon, which he endorsed, 50% homicide increase rate.
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And there it is. Again, a terrific summation of positions and the consequence of the following
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the opponent's policies. Your thoughts? I want everybody to hear John Fetterman, too, because
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I've used some strong words, impaired, unfit. Here is John Fetterman on the issue of supporting
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tracking and the confusion in his record on the issue. Here we go.
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I absolutely support fracking. In fact, I live across the street from a steel mill, and they
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were going to frack to create their own energy in order to make them more competitive. And
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I support that, living closer to anybody else in Pennsylvania for fracking to myself. I believe
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that we need independence with energy, and I believe I've walked that line my entire career.
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I believe Democrats. Mr. Mr. Fetterman, I do have a specific question, which you can continue
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on this topic. But you have made two conflicting statements regarding fracking. In a 2018 interview,
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you said, quote, I don't support fracking at all. I never have. But earlier this month,
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you told an interviewer, quote, I support fracking. I support the energy independence that we should
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have here in the United States. So, Mr. Fetterman, please explain your changing position. 60 seconds.
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Yes. I've always supported fracking. He's always supported fracking. I mean, it's sad. It is very sad. And
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again, I'm not going to play here the sound that is so difficult for anyone to watch, because this is a
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man in poor health who is being exploited by his own political party. And in my judgment,
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his family bears some responsibility in this as well. This is inhumane what they are doing to him
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as a candidate. And it's an obscenity what the Marxist Democrat Party is trying to do to the people of
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Well, it's not a surprise considering that they've got Biden as our president. Six out of 10 voters in
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the United States think he needs to go for a cognitive test and make it public. And so with
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John Fetterman, they're just taking it to a new level. And the difference between Fetterman and,
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you know, certainly we wish him well and we wish him to stay healthy. But the difference is he's got
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these radical policies. The story is not his health. The story is when he was well, what was he
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thinking of when he said they should release a third of these violent criminals out of the
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Pennsylvania jails? Why did he support this thing? And look at what's going on in Philadelphia. Look
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what's going on throughout Pennsylvania as well as the rest of the country when you let violent
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criminals out of jail. I mean, Wawa, who was headquartered in Philadelphia, is closing stores because
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they can't keep it safe. They're getting looted by mobs. And, you know, this is the kind of policy
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that this guy's in favor of. And whether it's fracking where he would shut down a billion dollar
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industry in Pennsylvania, something that's vitally needed right now is Russia becomes the supplier of
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oil and gas for Europe as they, you know, promulgate a war in Ukraine and kill thousands of people.
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You know, Biden talks a good game. Fetterman talks a good game. But then they don't up the oil and gas
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production that would actually starve Putin of the money he needs to prosecute his, you know,
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prosecute his war. So we had we had a poll list last week that we did for Dick Morris and John
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Jordan, who published it on Newsmax, that we had us moving a point ahead among likely voters. So it was
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already moving in this debate should just be the closing argument on John Fetterman for the Senate
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and should seal the fate of the Senate seat for the Democrats that it belongs to the Republicans
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because they're wrong on the issues and they would do damage to America. So so what's the best part
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about what's going on in the election right now is the Marxist radical Democrats who took over their
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party from these from the moderate Democrats are being exposed and they're they're wrong on so
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many issues, whether it's the economy and inflation, whether it's crime and, you know, being pro criminal
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instead of pro police, whether it's the border and security, whether it's keeping America strong in
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the world so that we could, you know, promote peace and not be subject to like dictators like Putin or
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or elsewhere in the world terrorists from Iran. I mean, let's expose these Democrats and beat them on
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the issues. Yeah. One hopes that at this point people understand who Joe Biden is and what he is not
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and a fully capable president. He is not and a puppet. He is of the Marxist Dems and the party
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they control, as you say. I want to also point out something about what's happening in Pennsylvania
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and get your reaction to early voting, mail in balloting, absentee balloting, because we now know
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a million people have already had already voted when Dr. Oz and John Fetterman held their first,
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last and only debate, which should have made a clear cut statement in favor of Dr. Oz, anyone who
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cares about the future of their children and their quality of life. That should have been clear as a
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result of last night's debate. A million votes already cast in Pennsylvania. How could it be? And
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your reaction? Well, it's dangerous because, I mean, during COVID on the, you know, the Democrats
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led by their governor and their secretary of state, Governor Wolf passed a law called Act 77. And
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the Republicans went along with it because they didn't want to be perceived as being, you know,
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intolerant during COVID times or whatever. But it allowed the paper ballots and what they call curing of
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ballots, where they can go back and a ballot that wasn't filled out properly, they can correct it and
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count it because they knew they were banking votes against Republicans. And a lot of other states have
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fixed those laws. Like what Wisconsin, the Supreme Court ruled four to three, even though the media
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says there's a big lie out there. No, there's, there's evidence. And the Supreme Court of Wisconsin
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threw out that law that allowed people to say they were permanently disabled when they weren't. And they
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were getting absentee ballots. And granted, there's been no remedy for the 2020 presidential race,
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but it's not going to happen this year to defeat Ron Johnson. In Georgia, finally, the Republicans woke up
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after the election because Governor Kemp didn't call a special session after their election. And why they
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agreed to the consent order, I had no idea. But that allowed the unsecured drop boxes was hundreds of
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thousands of ballots that had no chain of custody record and enabled ballot harvesting. That's been
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proven in different documentaries. But in Georgia, this, the state legislature we work for, the
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majority corrected the law. So whether you vote by absence, you're in person, you need a voter ID.
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There's no excuse absentees. And the drop boxes are now secure. There are government buildings
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that require you to, you know, that you can only drop in one ballot, etc. So they're being
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watched. And, you know, no one has said their civil rights were, unlike Stacey Abrams talks about, or
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Reverend Warnock, no one has said their civil rights were deprived, and they're being allowed to vote.
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And they're showing up in record numbers. And because Georgia is a civil rights state, that has to keep
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records of how people vote based on statistics of, you know, race and age, 33% of the vote right now
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is African American. So they're, you know, it's an honest election now. And, you know, the Democrats
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are taking advantage of it. And the Republicans will take advantage of a lot of Republicans wait till
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election day still. But it's a it's a race that Herschel Walker can win. And the polls are showing
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that as, you know, neck and neck, whether he's up to or down to, that's a close race. And they keep on
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throwing every, every, every character attack, you can imagine a Herschel. And he's still standing
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because of Warnock is voting with Biden for all these failed policies. And, and Governor Kemp's
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leading Stacey Abrams decisively. So, so, you know, Pennsylvania, they should have fixed that law,
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and they haven't done it. And that's a problem, because you still have a Democrat governor there.
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And the Pennsylvania Democrat officials mailed out the, the Democrat election officials mailed out
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240,000 ballots to unverified voters. They now say it's 255,000 voters, according again to the
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Gateway Pundit. I mean, what in the world is the Republican Party doing? And I, and I know that
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the RNC is a fundraising mechanism, and an opportunity for the top officials of that
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organization to get rich. But the reality is, the reality is, we've got to, we've got to break up
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that mess that we call an RNC, because they've let this happen. The state organization is obviously
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a disaster. This is our future being, this is not something that should be tolerated by the Republican
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Party of any state, but particularly a state with a number of electoral votes,
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that it holds, and the consequence for the entire nation.
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Right. No, I agree with you. And the Republican, you know, I, I, you know, I, I, I, I, I'm at a loss
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for words, because I've been saying all along that in 2020, they let us down in terms of, you know,
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protecting the ballot integrity that year. And since then, they still haven't filed any complaint
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against the Zuckerberg drop boxes, or the use of tax deductible dollars for partisan voting activities,
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because they certainly targeted their efforts that was tax deductible by Mark Zuckerberg.
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And it was tax deductible, they got a break, they spent hundreds of millions of dollars,
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and they targeted it in Democrat areas to drive out a partisan Democrat vote. So no one's filed an IRS
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complaint, no one's filed an FEC complaint. And, and, you know, granted, they have changed some laws,
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and they have gone after laws, but so much more needs to be done. You know, it's, it's, I wish the
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election was tomorrow, because our Republicans are fired up to go vote. There's a lot of Democrats that are
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breaking from their party, independents are overwhelmingly with us.
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I think that they will exceed even, even their conduct in 2020. But I, I've just, I'm at a loss
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to understand two things about the Republican Party right now. And that is their toleration of two
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leaders, Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell, House Minority Leader, Kevin McCarthy,
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we're being told everything's fine, because they understand they're going to have to do what the
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party says if we went back to House and the Senate. We're in the position of tolerating two
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rhinos, two Democrats, with an R by their name instead of a D, as the leaders of a more conservative
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and more moderate Republican Party. I mean, this is nuts what's happening, and I don't get it. And we're
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putting up with a Republican National Committee that is filled with people who seem to want to
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give this over to the Democrats. How can this be tolerated? And how can they be removed?
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Well, I'll tell you, first of all, I kind of, I'm just working for my candidates to get them
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elected, because I know there's a lot of good pro-Trump, pro-conservative Republicans that are
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running. If we thought we elected in the wave years of 2010 or 1994, if we thought we elected a
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good conservative crop of elected officials, I think we're going to see the types of candidates
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who are elected now more in touch with the mainstream of America, more in touch with the
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majority, what they want to do, whether it's immigration, whether it's crime, whether it's taxes
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in the economy, various groups. And I'm like, you know, I'm telling people, if you want to give to
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somebody, give to them directly. And, you know, we've got to get them elected. Once the election
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happens, if we elect as many of these candidates as we have to control the Senate, not, you know,
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and by the way, the House, like I said, we have that Republicans up 49, 43. That means we would
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probably gain between 40 and 50 seats. You gain between 40 and 50 seats, that caucus, when they
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meet, they're going to, they're going to elect some pretty conservative, strong pro-Trump, you know,
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leaders. And the Senate races, you know, right now, Oz looks like he's going to win Pennsylvania. It
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looks like we're going to win North Carolina. It looks like we're going to win in Wisconsin. But
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right now, it doesn't look like the Republicans are going to lose any Senate seats. In Alaska,
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the Republican Party has, has, you know, it's a, it's a contest, not between the Democrat and
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Republicans, between Murkowski, Senator Murkowski, and Trump's endorsed candidate, Kelly Chewbacca.
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So that's a different one. But we control the Senate. You know, then it's up to the senators to pick
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their leader. And let's get as many of them as elected as possible, so that they can pick the right
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leadership. So right now, I, I, I'm not looking past November 8. All I'm doing is, I'm with you,
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I advise my candidates what they need to do to beat the Biden Democrats. And then we go from there.
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I'm sitting here looking at November 8. And I just can't wait to get there. Because the sooner we do,
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and hopefully, we'll be able to lock up the barn and not have any, any breakaways, I'll put it that
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way. This is a Senate minority leader, though I think we have to explain, whether, whether it is
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in New Hampshire, whether it is in Alaska, supporting the, the Democratic opposition to Republican
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candidates. This is insane what Mitch McConnell has done. And no one wants to raise their voice
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above a whisper when they talk about this madness on the part of McConnell. Why is that?
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Well, it's because, first of all, there's a, certainly the Senate, he is the Senate leader and
00:26:56.140
controls the campaign funds with Rick Scott for this Senate committee. And then at the same time,
00:27:03.360
you have the Senate leadership fund that puts in millions of dollars extra to offset what the Democrats
00:27:08.280
are doing what Schumer's doing. So, so, you know, there's a lot of resources that they control.
00:27:15.340
But right now, I think, you know, I think the voters, the battlefield is widening, because
00:27:21.180
it's not just the four Democrat incumbents who are in trouble. It appears that Laxalt's ahead in
00:27:27.100
Nevada, over Cortez Masto. That's all the polls seem to agree on that. It's not a big lead, but it's a
00:27:32.720
lead. Mark Kelly's in trouble in Arizona. Blake Masters is right behind him. Hershel Walker and
00:27:39.540
Warnock are virtually tied in the polls, you know, and there could be a runoff in Georgia after
00:27:45.300
November 8th. And in fact, Warnock did some ad where he's saying that they don't want to go to
00:27:52.340
Thanksgiving with another election. I was like, it's a turkey of an ad. So the turkey came before
00:27:58.320
Thanksgiving. By the way, John, that's the worst pun of the entire campaign year that I've heard to
00:28:05.980
this point, but I like it. Yeah, but it's like, when you look, when I looked at the ad, I'm like,
00:28:11.100
for the Democrats to be begging for 50.1% for him before Thanksgiving, it's like, that's just not
00:28:20.140
good. They're in trouble. And then, and then you've, then you've got Bulldog, General Bulldog in
00:28:27.080
New Hampshire, you know, right behind Maggie Hassan, the Democrat Senator in New Hampshire.
00:28:34.000
New Hampshire, if she's polling in the 40s, she, she's very beatable. Sununu, the governor is,
00:28:40.800
appears headed for re-election decisively. So, you know, it's, it's very likely that the Republicans
00:28:48.420
could not just have, you know, 51, 52 seats, they could have more. And you have candidates
00:28:55.720
that could win for the Republicans in Washington state, in, in Colorado, and Leora Levy could win
00:29:02.460
in Connecticut, because Blumenthal, most voters in Connecticut think he's a liar. So, well, we know
00:29:08.680
he's a liar. They must be thinking something in addition to the fact that he's a liar. Well, he, well,
00:29:15.660
that his lies have affected them at this point. Right now, what everybody has to be focused on is
00:29:22.220
getting, you know, making sure they vote, making sure they're friends and family and that think
00:29:28.060
like they do, they vote. Because even though 160 million people voted in the 2020 presidential race,
00:29:35.160
turnout won't be as high this time. In 2018, it was 118 million. In 2014, which was a good Republican
00:29:40.840
year, it was only 83 million. So you got tens of millions of voters deciding not just who they're
00:29:45.820
going to vote for right now, deciding whether they're going to vote or not. And we need to make
00:29:51.400
sure those who would vote with us, if they really want change, whether it's for Lee Zeldin as governor
00:29:55.460
in New York, Dan Cashless bail to stop the crime wave, to stop the exodus of people. I mean, the only
00:30:01.220
people that Kathy Hochul doesn't want to leave New York are the Buffalo Bills. And she gave them a billion
00:30:06.980
tax dollars. But the way she's headed, there'll be nobody in the stands watching the game because
00:30:11.960
everybody else is leaving upstate New York. You've given me a you've given me a segue. So I'm going
00:30:18.740
to take it because I'd like to bring in what John is talking about. This is Lee Zeldin again in that
00:30:25.820
debate, talking about why people are leaving New York State, and putting it straightforwardly
00:30:34.580
on vocal and the one party rule that has been in charge of New York for way too long. Here is Lee
00:30:44.460
Zeldin. And you get people who are afraid of being pushed in front of oncoming subway cars. They're
00:30:49.740
being stabbed, beaten to death on the street with hammers. Go talk to the Asian American community
00:30:53.940
and how it's impacted them with the loss of lives. Jewish people targeted with raw, violent anti-Semitism
00:30:58.820
on our streets. It just happened yet again. We need to be talking about all of these other crimes.
00:31:04.580
But instead, Kathy Hochul's too busy patting herself on the back. Job well done. No, actually,
00:31:09.740
right now there should be a special session. The state legislature should come back and they
00:31:13.580
should overhaul Castles Bale and these other pro-criminal laws with zero tolerance. But they're
00:31:18.100
saying, elect me. She says, elect me. And then you'll find out where maybe I'll stand on this issue in
00:31:22.460
January. Lee Zeldin running to unseat Kathy Hochul, the incumbent Democrat. And God bless him. And God
00:31:32.160
speed. We need him in New York. I take your point. It is time to everybody to come together. But I have
00:31:43.180
to ask you this and then I'll get off the issue of leadership of the Republican Party. I promise you.
00:31:47.600
Have you ever seen another majority leader in either part in either either house, the Senate or the
00:31:55.480
House, actually finance opponents to the Republican Party candidates?
00:32:05.180
Right now, all I know is that that my candidates are being supported by, you know, by the leadership,
00:32:12.160
but they have no choice because we won the primaries. So my job now is to make sure they win in
00:32:17.560
November. And that's all I'm focused on. I appreciate your candor, John, and I understand
00:32:23.140
your reticence on certain issues. So let's go forward and take a look at your poll because it's
00:32:29.820
really critically important for everybody to understand what is happening. Putting the blame
00:32:36.020
squarely on Joe Biden for the United States. Two-thirds saying that the country is moving in the wrong
00:32:41.960
direction. Guess what? Two-thirds say it's all Joe Biden. Not all, but it's Joe Biden's fall
00:32:47.240
primarily that the United States is on the wrong track. To me, that should spell doom for the
00:32:55.960
Democrats in and of itself. The generic ballot, as you point out, it's widened to six points under
00:33:03.360
your polling, in your polling. That's impressive. And the job rating? Biden is underwater.
00:33:11.480
No one thinks he's fit for office. And his policies are vicious. And what in the world are
00:33:19.240
we looking at here in terms of impact on November 8th and all of these senatorial and House races
00:33:27.740
that are so critically important, as well as governorships and state legislatures around the
00:33:32.140
country? Well, Joe Biden will be in a lot more Republican ads than he will be Democrat ads.
00:33:36.840
And I'm hoping he comes in and campaigns for all our opponents. So it's, you know, it's, it's the guy
00:33:44.780
has failed. And, you know, but, you know, the, the, that question about whose fault it is,
00:33:50.500
it was only 67% of those who thought it was 65% wrong track. So that's still in the 40s. We still
00:33:58.900
have room to grow. Some of the people aren't getting the message because some people still believe it's
00:34:04.180
Putin's fault that gas is so high, not Joe Biden. Some people still believe that, you know, that the
00:34:11.040
economy is slowed because of pressures about inflation that they don't control. I mean, so,
00:34:18.600
so we still have a debate to commence that is really important in terms of why this country is on the
00:34:24.860
wrong track, why these policies are failing, and that it is Joe Biden and the Democrats' fault. And
00:34:29.860
there's so many things that these Democrats voted for that the mainstream media, which should be the
00:34:34.520
left-wing media of the Democrat party, the socialist party, they don't tell us. And the only way you find
00:34:41.400
out is candidates running ads and getting the message out during the campaign and people using
00:34:45.860
social media when they don't get censored. So, so we've got, we've got 13 days to keep pounding.
00:34:51.760
I mean, we've got to pound this, this home until November 8th.
00:34:54.860
You've focused on November 8th. I'm focused on what looks in your poll to be, to me, nothing but good
00:35:02.800
news for the Republican party and nothing but bad news, awful news for the Democrat party. You say
00:35:08.560
there's room to run. I would guess there is. I'd like to get from you, though, your, if you will,
00:35:16.720
your summarization of what you think is the likely outcome. Where you see the selection headed. Are we
00:35:29.140
talking about a red wave? Are we talking about a tsunami? Are we talking about the prospect of
00:35:34.400
the Democrats coming up with another steal? How important is turnout? I would guess the answer
00:35:41.580
would be very, uh, and immeasurably important. Uh, give us, give us your sense how this is going
00:35:48.760
to look on November 9th. I mean, today, you know, today it should be, if the election was held today,
00:35:54.980
the Republicans would gain 40, 50 seats in the house, someplace in that range. Uh, most of the
00:36:01.020
toss-ups are actually Democrat seats. We'd win those. We'd win all the ones leaning Republican,
00:36:06.000
all the ones, uh, you know, uh, certainly, uh, tilting Republican and we'd pick up some that
00:36:12.540
lean Democrat we'd, we'd win today. Uh, even people like Sean Patrick Maloney, who is Nancy Pelosi's
00:36:19.540
campaign manager for the Democrats in the house, he's losing a Mike Lawler. Uh, but you know, when
00:36:25.380
you think about the races that we could pick up, you know, in 2012, everybody thought Mitt Romney
00:36:33.380
was going to be president. He was running ahead in all the polls, you know, uh, a week over a week
00:36:39.340
out. And a lot of the Republicans stopped polling going into that weekend. And guess what happened?
00:36:44.700
You had hurricane Sandy hit most of the East coast. Some States like Connecticut, New York,
00:36:50.420
New Jersey, couldn't even Poland because the phones were out. The electricity was out.
00:36:55.640
Obama takes advantage of it. Mitt Romney flies over those States because he doesn't think they're in
00:37:00.880
play. Obama comes in, hugs Chris Christie. And the next thing you know, on Sunday, he goes ahead in
00:37:07.160
the polls and Monday he's ahead in the polls and he eats out a victory in 2012. Yeah. Um, and
00:37:13.340
Romney could have easily come into New York said how terrible this was like the Democrats did with
00:37:19.180
Katrina and he didn't do it. And he, you know, so here you've got a situation where, you know,
00:37:26.260
right now it looks really good. I don't see any hurricanes coming, but the Democrats can, uh,
00:37:32.460
maybe, you know, steal some races from us that we should win and, and minimize our success that we,
00:37:38.920
we only win the house by a handful and we don't take as many Senate races as we should. So,
00:37:44.880
you know, we've got to run like we're behind every day until the polls close. And then even after the
00:37:50.720
polls close, we now know that we have to make sure that the elections were honest
00:37:54.540
and the ballots that are being cast are legitimate and we can't allow the Democrats to, uh, uh, you
00:38:02.320
know, change the rules, uh, after the election happens. So, so right now, you know, right now it
00:38:08.880
looks pretty good, but the election is not tomorrow. It's over a week from tomorrow. So I, I've never
00:38:15.500
asked you this question, but the bounce of the polls that Obama got in 2012 in that final week,
00:38:23.360
I mean, it was dramatic. It was dramatic. Uh, how manufactured was that and how much of it was
00:38:31.140
real? Oh, it was real. It was the, the polls, the bounce he got in the polls. I mean, he was losing
00:38:38.540
in most polls, uh, but a lot of places, you know, they, they stopped polling Wednesday, Thursday before
00:38:44.620
the election. And then, you know, uh, nobody was, you know, some, the media of national polls
00:38:51.600
that were, that were out there actually had Obama go ahead on Sunday and Monday. And I don't think it
00:38:56.440
was manufactured. I think, I think the Republicans, you know, got fat and confident and they thought
00:39:04.160
they were going to win. And until the exit polls hit them on election night, you know, I heard stories
00:39:08.860
from people that were up in Massachusetts waiting to celebrate Mitt Romney's victory. And I, I wasn't
00:39:15.440
a part of that campaign. And, you know, I was one of these outcasts eventually ended up with Donald
00:39:19.960
Trump, but, uh, but, uh, uh, but I, you know, they, they thought they were going to win and they
00:39:27.580
didn't see it coming. And, uh, you know, in an age of social media and electronic communications,
00:39:33.560
I mean, Obama's people pioneered it on Facebook back then in 2008 and 2012. And you've got,
00:39:41.620
you know, things that can happen in one state, uh, you know, end up on the internet throughout the
00:39:47.480
country in a matter of, uh, nanoseconds. So, uh, so right, so right now I don't, you know, I, I,
00:39:55.600
I'm not, I'm not taking anything for granted. I'm keeping my candidates staying on offense,
00:40:00.880
running like they're behind right through till election day.
00:40:03.880
Good for you. And I think that's the only posture to, to, to assume, uh, especially in these dire
00:40:11.000
moments in which we live. I want to ask further, if you will, what, what do you look, when you see
00:40:21.260
executive order, uh, what is it? 1 0, uh, 1 4 9. I believe that is, I, I'm not sure of the exact
00:40:29.160
number that the March 21st executive order by Biden, putting the federal government, uh, making
00:40:36.060
them responsible for get out the vote. Uh, how much of an influence will that have on the election?
00:40:41.700
In your opinion, has there been a Republican response to it? Um, I, I'm not a lawyer, but I've
00:40:48.980
had, you know, lots of friends and people in campaigns that are concerned about it and keeping
00:40:53.600
an eye on it right now because, uh, we are very concerned that they're going to pull some sort of
00:40:58.420
stunt, uh, that would, uh, uh, that would affect the election. So, uh, you know, right now we just
00:41:04.960
got to be vigilant that the, the Merrick Garland led justice department doesn't do anything other
00:41:10.680
than make sure the election is safe, honest, and, uh, you know, fair. So it's like, uh, you know,
00:41:17.060
safe, honest, and legal, just, just, you know, let's, let's have the election, let people that
00:41:22.620
are eligible to vote. Most states have voter ID, New York doesn't, uh, Georgia does. Um,
00:41:29.160
you know, we let's, let's make sure those who are legitimate citizens are able to vote and, uh,
00:41:34.520
no one else. So, you know, uh, right now, I, right now we're just waiting to see, we don't control
00:41:42.540
Absolutely. Uh, John, we always give our guests the last word, as you know, uh, your concluding
00:41:49.200
thoughts and, uh, we appreciate all of your time today.
00:41:52.960
You know, the, this is probably the most important election we've seen in a long time,
00:41:57.280
because if we do not succeed on November 8th, um, a lot of things will change permanently in the
00:42:04.120
country. If the, if the Democrats are able to keep their house majority, if they're able to keep
00:42:09.560
their Senate majority, um, the inflation we're seeing, the weakness we're seeing, the lawlessness
00:42:15.160
on the border, the, you know, fentanyl and who knows who's coming into the country, it's going
00:42:20.760
to continue and there'll be irreparable damage done to America. So November 8th, if you, if you want to
00:42:29.860
vote early, you should vote early. If you want to vote, uh, on election day, vote on election day,
00:42:34.780
but, but we need to vote to make sure that this country and, uh, uh, the, you know, the,
00:42:41.820
the basically democracy and freedoms that we love stay intact. So, uh, I'd urge all your listeners
00:42:47.700
to make sure not only they vote, but also their family and friends vote, because this is probably
00:42:52.020
the most consequential election we have seen in our lifetime. Amen. John McLaughlin, thanks for being
00:42:59.460
with us here on the great America show. We appreciate it so much. And all you do, God bless you.
00:43:07.360
The days are counting down and quickly let's save the Republic folks. Please remember to vote,
00:43:13.260
please. And here tomorrow, our guests will be a great American running for governor of Minnesota,
00:43:19.500
Scott Jensen. Dr. Jensen is a physician who's not a politician, but a man who means to make a
00:43:26.280
difference for the people of Minnesota. I think you'll find Dr. Jensen to be a very interesting fellow,
00:43:32.140
a fellow who I think will make a great governor of Minnesota. Please join us here tomorrow on the
00:43:38.200
great America show. Till then, God bless you and God bless America.