The Great America Show - IF WE FLEW UKRAINIAN FLAGS OVER THE U.S., THEN BIDEN MIGHT DEFEND OUR AIRSPACE & BORDERS, SAYS JUDICIAL WATCH’S CHRIS FARRELL

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.

00:00:05.360 Let's begin with Joe Biden and his obvious obsession with Ukraine.

00:00:10.500 Just as I was thinking a little bit about crediting Biden, with the guts at least,

00:00:15.900 to make a presidential visit to Kiev, it turns out the U.S. government reportedly warned Russia

00:00:22.100 there would be a tough response if there was any attack while Biden was in Kiev.

00:00:27.220 If so, all Biden really did was threaten World War III if the Russians ignored the U.S. threat

00:00:35.100 while he was in Ukraine. This is really crazy stuff when you think about it.

00:00:41.040 Biden in Ukraine also promising President Zelensky another half billion dollars

00:00:46.740 to add to the more than a hundred billion dollars already spent on Ukraine.

00:00:51.460 You might think that the big guy was working on a 10 percent commission.

00:00:57.220 Biden went to Ukraine. All right. But he never went to East Palestine, Ohio,

00:01:03.460 where residents are fearing for their health, their families and community after that Norfolk

00:01:09.100 Southern derailment. Water, air and soil contaminated by hazardous chemicals contained in at least five

00:01:16.940 tank cars on that train. The railroad blew them up, saying it was the safest thing to do.

00:01:23.000 What government agency approved that one? Do railroads regulate themselves? How did they decide what a

00:01:30.100 community should do? And Biden's FEMA refused to help out, help out in any way, saying that houses

00:01:38.500 weren't destroyed so they could do nothing. Sounds like a Kamala Harris plan, don't you think?

00:01:43.740 Remember when Harris called for prioritizing federal disaster responses based on race?

00:01:51.980 Well, President Trump announced he'll be there in Palestine tomorrow. And as soon as he did,

00:01:58.460 FEMA suddenly decided they just might be able to help out the good people of Palestine after all,

00:02:03.700 no matter what their race. Those residents complaining now of rashes, headaches, nausea,

00:02:10.340 sore throats and troubled breathing. Potential effects include risk of cancer in liver, lungs,

00:02:16.880 brain and blood. And the Biden CDC? Well, they're not there yet. It's been over two weeks.

00:02:24.080 They won't be there until later this week. Transportation moron Pete Buttigieg hasn't gone to 0.91

00:02:29.800 Palestine at all. Could it be that he doesn't want to breathe their air and drink their water? 0.99

00:02:35.000 And good old Joe's in Ukraine, not Palestine. He might start to think about sending some big 1.00

00:02:41.620 checks to the folks who have to fix Palestine and take care of the victims. Meanwhile, the Biden

00:02:48.120 regime is threatening China now, telling them not to send lethal aid to Russia, warning them. Well,

00:02:55.440 that while the United States and Europe are planning on sending more advanced weapons,

00:02:59.800 tanks, artillery, missiles and fighter jets to Ukraine. Does that sound rational to you? Go

00:03:07.360 figure. And another balloon is shown up over U.S. airspace, over Hawaii. Naturally, no one knows what

00:03:14.800 it is. They don't know whose it is or, as usual, what to do about it. Stay tuned, as they say. These

00:03:22.120 balloons are making fools of the U.S. military and civilian leadership. Let them fly, shoot them down or 1.00

00:03:28.280 just watch them on three-year-old radar tracking recordings. These balloons are paralyzing the U.S.

00:03:34.840 air defenses and the Pentagon. And our guest here today on The Great America Show is Judicial Watch's

00:03:41.040 Director of Research and Investigations, Chris Farrell. Chris, thanks for being with us and great to have

00:03:46.620 you back. I want to get your read on those balloons and the flummox Biden regime. As they first froze,

00:03:53.200 then they tried momentarily to do something which they don't frequently practice, which is telling

00:03:58.180 the truth. Our impaired president and the military establishment just simply conducted themselves badly

00:04:04.520 and look even worse. Well, it's a disgrace, number one. Number two, Mark Milley, of course,

00:04:12.460 our illustrious chairman of the Joint Chiefs, appears to have been doing the bidding of his Chinese 1.00

00:04:18.400 masters. Once again, the man who should be court-martialed. And then the notion that we're

00:04:23.660 going to let a balloon traverse our airspace in total defiance of our sovereignty and continue to

00:04:31.400 do its collection mission, then transmit all the data back to China and then erase itself and then have

00:04:38.840 the air force to shoot it down is just insanity. And on the heels of Afghanistan, on the heels of a wide 0.96

00:04:47.880 open border, how else is the Biden administration going to neglect or endanger the American public?

00:04:56.440 I guess maybe if we flew Ukrainian flags over the country, we would defend our airspace. But 0.66

00:05:03.500 if there's an American flag over it, then we don't have to worry about it.

00:05:08.180 It was stunning to watch the way in which the government just didn't respond. Started on the 28th,

00:05:17.560 apparently, according to the government. The 28th, the Aleutian Islands, and then moving through the

00:05:24.820 southern Alaska into Canada, into the United States, northern Idaho, and then Montana, sighted

00:05:32.820 by numerous citizens with iPhones and whatever other camera they had. They would never have said a

00:05:42.420 word, would they? They being this federal government, if we hadn't seen it with our own eyes.

00:05:50.700 And my recollection is that there were reports from commercial airline passengers who looked out of

00:05:56.480 their plane window and seen something floating along. And again, you know, it becomes sort of a hazard

00:06:01.940 in navigation. Normally, the FAA puts out these NOTAMs or these notices to airmen and mariners about

00:06:09.220 dangerous conditions. And there's this object floating along, and they'd rather keep it under wraps. But

00:06:16.420 the notion that it posed no threat to the American people, which is what the Pentagon spokesman kept

00:06:20.660 saying over and over again, is a lie. It's just a lie.

00:06:24.100 And a huge lie. But this government of ours is out of control. And when I say out of control,

00:06:33.140 it's not just a figure of speech. It is out of the control of the civilian leadership. When the military

00:06:41.220 is not notifying the commander in chief, the National Security Council, what's going on with an intrusion,

00:06:48.180 a provocation like this? This is stunning stuff. And then we learn, to the degree that we can rely on

00:06:57.380 it, that there were three incursions. That was the first blush in defense by some some fool in the 0.98

00:07:03.620 Defense Department to say, well, it happened to Trump, too. Well, in saying that, they had to reveal that 0.97

00:07:09.860 they notified none of the civilian leadership of those incursions.

00:07:13.780 This is all, you know, an attempted sort of a CYA maneuver that actually blows up in their face. 0.99

00:07:23.220 It's as idiotic as Hunter Biden acknowledging that the laptops actually are his because he wants to 1.00

00:07:30.340 threaten people to shut up talking about his laptops. It's the same mentality, the same 1.00

00:07:35.700 faulty logic where they admit that they've made even more errors than they started out talking about.

00:07:41.620 In this case, it looks like we have right now. I know the term is used somewhat loosely and I don't

00:07:48.980 mean to be in that grouping. I truly believe that we are looking at the incipient point of a

00:07:55.620 constitutional crisis in this country. We are seeing our tradition of civilian and by the way, our

00:08:02.420 constitutional relationship between civilian leadership and the military breached and breached

00:08:08.820 through two administrations by the United States military, its general officers. I think that this

00:08:18.500 couldn't be bigger, frankly.

00:08:22.020 It is. I mean, it seems like one sort of incident or one event or one, you know, unfortunate,

00:08:30.420 like they used love to use passive voice. Mistakes were made, right? But it isn't. It points to a much

00:08:36.420 larger systemic problem with, and it's everything from leadership failures politically to leadership

00:08:45.300 failures within the military, a breakdown of the chain of command, and inability to identify real

00:08:54.660 clear threats to the public and deal with them in a manner that shows strength and authority and

00:09:01.220 the proper sort of defense of our own sovereignty that we should be doing. Instead, it's waffling

00:09:06.900 and wobbling and pearl clutching and dissembling and then lying about it after the fact. You're

00:09:13.860 trying to put a smiley face on something that's just horrific. And it sends the worst possible message,

00:09:21.140 not just to the Chinese, but to other bad actors around the world.

00:09:24.260 Yeah. Instead of a smiley face, I tend to think of this in terms of emojis. This would be a Millie

00:09:33.300 face. General Millie, once again, involved in this breach of responsibility to the civilian leadership

00:09:42.420 and being part of, apparently to this point, a deliberate plan, if not outright conspiracy on the

00:09:52.740 part of the general staff, to not take instances, incidents and events like this to the beyond the

00:10:03.220 Secretary of Defense. If you actually like the Secretary of Defense, you can talk to him or her,

00:10:08.900 I guess. But that's optional. But it is not optional to take these kinds of events and incidents to the

00:10:17.860 National Security Council and to the President, God forbid, the President of the United States.

00:10:24.340 And Millie has presided over a string of disasters that any other chairman, any other journal 0.97

00:10:33.620 officer would resign over, right? So first of all, there's the crazy phone call to the two crazy phone

00:10:40.900 calls to his Chinese counterpart. The phone call documented with Pelosi is publicizing all those

00:10:48.100 things in two different books a year apart. Then he presided over the disaster in Afghanistan.

00:10:54.820 All of his advice and all of his predictions concerning how Ukraine was going to turn out

00:11:00.180 with the Russians have been either wrong or late or inaccurate. And now this Chinese balloon situation,

00:11:10.180 I mean, what other grave, gross error of judgment or bad advice or presiding over a slow motion

00:11:22.900 disaster like Afghanistan, what else would he have to do to finally be in a position where he would be 1.00

00:11:30.500 embarrassed enough to resign or where he would be fired? Well, what has to happen? Do we have to have

00:11:37.140 another sort of Pearl Harbor or 9-11 event? Well, amongst the explanations were that General Mattis,

00:11:49.220 for example, at the Department of Defense, didn't want to tell Trump about those incursions by balloons

00:11:54.420 because he felt this man whose name is Mad Dog Mattis felt that President Trump was too aggressive. 0.76

00:12:06.100 Absolutely crazy. I mean, this is psychotic behavior on the part of the uppermost officers in the U.S. military.

00:12:17.380 And it goes on and on, and it's inexplicable why there has been no reaction on the part of the Republican Party,

00:12:28.980 certainly now, and the Democrat Party for that matter, but that's because we know that they're aligned

00:12:34.900 with this deep state interagency conspiracy against political leadership. It's a stunning moment,

00:12:48.180 and I don't know that there's ever been anything approaching this. I guess the closest thing we have

00:12:55.140 is seven days in May, you know, a long ago book and movie talking about the military taking control

00:13:03.220 of the government. Our military has been in de facto control of this government through much,

00:13:09.220 if not most, of the Trump presidency and also now with Joe Biden. If they were concerned about an

00:13:16.340 overly aggressive president in Trump, they must surely be just as concerned and frightened by an impaired 1.00

00:13:26.100 president like Biden. And it begs the question now, what else have you not told the chain of command,

00:13:36.020 the leadership about? These are lies or these are errors of omission. So what else are you not being

00:13:44.100 forthcoming and straight about? What's occurred that hasn't been reported? What have you let get away?

00:13:50.260 What have you turned a blind eye to or misreported or underreported? It undermines the faith and

00:13:58.660 confidence of the American people. It's deeply corrosive to the whole structure of the chain of command

00:14:05.700 as laid out in the Constitution and all the other regulations and statutes under that that lay out

00:14:12.580 the responsibilities and authorities of the military command structure. So now, so the starting point is,

00:14:18.580 okay, we know you've been lying or you've been deliberately omitting material facts that affect

00:14:25.780 the nation. What else is there? And how do you ever know you've ever gotten to the bottom of it?

00:14:32.180 That's the really corrosive part of this. It's corrosive. It's corrupt. We've known that there was

00:14:39.060 considerable political corruption, horrible amounts, pervasive amounts of corruption in the intelligence

00:14:47.620 community. To see that it is also extant in the uppermost regions of the U.S. military

00:14:55.620 is deeply, deeply concerning. The fact that the military was comfortable making national security

00:15:03.220 decisions without command authority from the President of the United States is just breathtaking.

00:15:14.660 There's no other way to express it. It is just stunning stuff.

00:15:21.860 And I don't see anybody, as you've mentioned, either A, calling it out or B,

00:15:29.540 trying to come up with a solution. I mean, we can sit here and yell about it and we should,

00:15:34.580 but then somebody, whether it's the House or Senate Armed Services Committee, whether it's,

00:15:41.380 there has to be some accounting for it. You just can't say, boy, that's really,

00:15:45.860 that's bad and crazy. Okay, that's true. So what's the solution? And I, again, another leadership

00:15:51.460 failure on the part of the Republicans, there's nobody really stepping up and saying, look, this is

00:15:56.260 out of control and this is how we have to fix it. It's just left hanging out there. And that's what's

00:16:02.020 infuriating as well. I want to hear from President Trump, who is the leader of the Republican Party.

00:16:11.060 I want to hear from Kevin McCarthy, the Speaker of the House, holding the third most powerful position

00:16:18.420 in government. He has to stand up here and demand answers for the American people because the vice

00:16:26.580 president isn't doing it and she would be incoherent if she attempted it. And the president isn't doing

00:16:32.980 it because he is just fine with maintaining his vacation time at his Wilmington, Delaware residence

00:16:41.220 or in, uh, in, uh, in, uh, Delaware. Uh, right. It's, it just, I, I, I have to say they have to speak

00:16:52.100 up and to hear these congressmen and senators go on Sundays, uh, shows with their little briefings

00:16:58.020 that they've had from the defense department about, yes, this happened, uh, in the Trump administration,

00:17:03.860 but no dates, no, uh, certain definition of what occurred. Uh, and we do know that the president,

00:17:11.060 it was, they left that out. Didn't they, Chris, they left out that part when they were trying to do

00:17:16.020 is what you called CYA. They left out the part that, you know, the president of the United States,

00:17:24.180 the national security, uh, council, and the director of national intelligence were all not informed at

00:17:31.980 once. Even it's just, again, I go back to it. I can't believe something like this could have happened

00:17:40.140 repeatedly over the course of years in the United States of America. The de facto, the de facto coup

00:17:47.820 occurred. Uh, we talked about the plot to overthrow the president. Well, he was overthrown as far as the

00:17:54.240 U S military was concerned. The coup was successful. You are correct. It's, it's, uh, uh, used to refer

00:18:05.100 to it as a soft coup in the sense that, you know, the tanks weren't rolling through the streets and

00:18:11.420 generals didn't seize the levers of government overtly, but, but the result is the same. The net

00:18:17.620 result is the same. I can't imagine a solution that doesn't involve firing the entire general staff

00:18:25.220 of the United States military. And I mean, every damn branch, this is ignorance beyond belief. Uh, 0.99

00:18:31.680 and we need to get to the bottom of, uh, of what had happened, who was involved and who knew about it

00:18:37.940 and said nothing, who didn't resign their posts rather than be a part of this. Uh, this is outrageous.

00:18:44.220 And I don't want to hear any excuses from anyone about their conduct and their decision-making or how 0.99

00:18:51.320 these were tough choices because it's all bull crap. This is laid out in the constitution and these 0.97

00:18:57.760 officers have taken a high oath to that constitution and they have broken that oath in every instance

00:19:05.200 in which they did not follow the constitution and reporting up the chain of command to their

00:19:10.320 civilian leadership. Uh, what do you think will happen?

00:19:16.300 Well, uh, up with you with regard to, uh, Republican leadership needs to, uh, not just kind of wave their

00:19:23.800 arms and yell, but actually come up with a strategy to correct the problem. And so, uh, like you,

00:19:30.820 I'd like to see president Trump come out with, uh, some sort of a framework or strategy as to how he

00:19:36.580 would, how he would fix it. And you want to talk about a president who's been screwed by general

00:19:41.720 officers, uh, whether it was Mattis or Kelly or all the other folks who he thought he could believe

00:19:48.800 in, uh, remember that, you know, uh, it's president Trump, unfortunately that, that chose Milley to be,

00:19:55.880 uh, the chairman of the JCS again, a guy he thought he could believe in. Uh, this is an instance where

00:20:02.320 president, president Trump's unfortunate personnel choices really comes back to haunt us. And then I

00:20:08.200 want to see what, uh, what McCarthy's going to do. He needs to get, uh, Milley under oath in front of

00:20:13.980 congressional committees and they need to drill down on this guy. He's got a horrific, uh, track

00:20:21.420 record that I detailed a few moments ago. Uh, there's gotta be, you know, somebody has to ask

00:20:26.400 him, Hey, uh, general Milley, at what point do you resign? Well, what's it going to take? You know,

00:20:31.800 when do you, when will you be shamed enough publicly? Um, but those are that got to play hard

00:20:38.520 ball and enough, you know, incessant talking about it. They got to do something. Yeah. Uh,

00:20:44.220 without question. Well, I've got a couple of recommendations and, uh, you know, uh, please

00:20:49.040 contribute yours. But the first thing I would do if I were the speaker of the house is call for the

00:20:54.140 immediate resignation of general Milley, uh, and everyone associated with that, uh, that decision

00:21:01.680 tree that left out the commander in chief of the United States military. Uh, and I would mean now,

00:21:07.740 uh, I would march, I would have them marched out of there if they didn't understand that this was,

00:21:12.880 uh, their, uh, their end to their career. Uh, I would make it clear to them. Uh, I, and I would

00:21:19.300 organize a select committee right now, a bipartisan, by the way, select committee, uh, and, uh, to

00:21:26.900 investigate the, the, this, uh, coup, uh, that is, that has been in place, uh, for years now.

00:21:36.160 Now, this cannot stand and everyone associated has to be not simply resigned, but I mean,

00:21:43.700 fired and without benefits. I mean, I don't want to hear that a single taxpayer dollar

00:21:49.180 goes into their pockets, any, any one of them.

00:21:54.420 Well, you know, and then Billy Mitchell was court-martialed in the 1920s for a fraction of what,

00:22:00.900 uh, these guys, uh, were done. And of course, Billy Mitchell ended up being vindicated by history and

00:22:06.540 ended up making a bomber after him. But Billy Mitchell simply criticized, uh, the way in which

00:22:11.780 the government was funding and supporting, uh, military aviation. He talked outside of, you know,

00:22:18.100 the four corners of what his, of what his responsibility was. And, uh, they, they convicted him and he

00:22:24.660 resigned his commission and, uh, died about three years later. But, uh, you know, it turns out Billy

00:22:32.540 Mitchell was actually correct in this criticism. You look at what Millie's done, Billy Mitchell's

00:22:37.840 offenses, you know, are infinitesimally smaller than with the kind of shenanigans that Millie's been 1.00

00:22:44.520 up to. Millie needs to be court-martialed. I wrote, I wrote an op-ed in the Washington Times back in

00:22:49.860 September detailing it of why it should be court-martialed. But, and that's the way, that's,

00:22:55.540 that is the technique or the, the, the, the, the device to be used, not just to get to the bottom

00:23:01.900 of this, but also to strip these people of their rank and of their retirements. There needs to be

00:23:06.800 a cleaning house like you've talked about, but the mechanism for doing it is our military courts

00:23:12.060 marshal. And that is the way to, and look, the army in particular, each of the services, but each of the

00:23:19.100 services, I'm speaking to the army, that's my, my experience. The army has an obligation to police

00:23:24.000 itself. They can't let this kind of stuff just slide. There is no more vivid example of breaking

00:23:30.900 our laws, our constitution than this one in which they decided to supersede civilian authority in

00:23:38.300 the Pentagon. It's an outrage. Uh, and, and there has to be accountability and it has to start now.

00:23:46.600 And I mean, by now, now would not be too soon to begin to set up that select committee and demand

00:23:53.640 the, uh, the resignations of all of those people who were involved, give them an opportunity to

00:23:59.400 voluntarily step aside. But my God, that investigation had better sweep through the Pentagon,

00:24:05.120 uh, and also, uh, any other, uh, part of the so-called, uh, deep state, uh, where there has been

00:24:13.460 complicity, uh, with knowledge here. Uh, I want to turn to, uh, as well, uh, I have to, I have to do

00:24:21.700 this. I have to ask you about how your, your efforts to learn what 50 years, just about 50 years of, uh,

00:24:30.540 Joe Biden's public career, uh, which is hidden away at the university of Delaware, you and, uh,

00:24:36.940 judicial watch trying to learn more, uh, tell us what you've run into, uh, and what the prospects are.

00:24:45.340 So, uh, we discovered, it was widely reported that, uh, surprise, surprise, uh, Joe Biden was hiding

00:24:55.420 all of his records and documents for his time as a Senator at the university of Delaware. And that

00:25:02.860 was a secret deal that was forged between, uh, Biden and the university of Delaware, basically

00:25:11.020 to keep everything locked up essentially forever or until such time as, uh, you know, Biden decided

00:25:17.020 that he wanted his, his file sort of curated and then released in order to make him look like he's

00:25:23.500 a genius and a hero. Good luck with that. So we sued, uh, in Delaware court because it's

00:25:29.740 the university of Delaware. So we went to a Delaware state court under the open records act.

00:25:34.460 Delaware has its own opens, open records law because we believe that the American public has

00:25:39.980 a right to Biden's records. If he's going to put them all together and he's going to archive them at

00:25:45.340 the, at a public university, well, let's see what they are. Well, university of Delaware, you know,

00:25:49.900 fought tooth and nail. No, no, no, no, no. Uh, this effort of ours is, um, is also, uh, being done in

00:25:58.860 conjunction in conjunction with daily caller news foundation. Uh, that's who we filed the,

00:26:04.140 the request for their, their effort to get reporting on this. And, uh, there's, you know,

00:26:10.860 eighteen hundred and fifty boxes of documents and a ton, an enormous amount of electronic records as

00:26:16.780 well. And, uh, the Biden's are fighting like hell to keep them secret. And we're in court pressing to

00:26:24.780 have them released. And so we've been back and forth in court to do so. How does a vice president

00:26:31.420 take ownership or as a U S Senator take ownership of all those documents? This is, this is without

00:26:39.980 question, the people's business. This is, if it, if there is a case to be made for ownership by a

00:26:47.740 senator of his public records, that's madness on its face, isn't it? Yeah, it is. But, you know,

00:26:55.580 he absconded with them and has them, has them under lock and key at the University of Delaware.

00:27:01.260 We've been fighting this now for nearly two years. We originally filed our requests for access under the

00:27:08.700 Delaware open records law, the Freedom of Information Act in Delaware. We filed for that back in April of

00:27:14.220 2020. So now we're, we're sneaking up on, on a two year anniversary of going back and forth in court

00:27:20.140 over this. The superior court in Delaware, uh, you know, sided with the university. We've appealed it.

00:27:27.500 And I think that the, the, the latest revelations about how Biden really abused and misused and, and, uh,

00:27:37.820 broke all the rules about classified information has actually kind of upped the burden or the

00:27:43.820 pressure on the University of Delaware to be forthcoming about what they have tucked away in

00:27:49.340 those 1800 plus boxes. And, uh, the, the gigabytes, I think it's 415 gigabytes of electronic records.

00:27:59.100 Uh, so we gotta, we have to get to it. We have to, the public needs to know what he's hiding in there.

00:28:03.900 Uh, and these documents appear to be at least, I mean, I could just off the top of my head, I would

00:28:11.260 suggest one, uh, you said absconded. I would say he stole these documents. Number two, I'd like to know

00:28:17.980 the court, uh, decisions on instances in which a Senator has had the Temeri to take all of his public

00:28:25.980 documents and claim them as his, uh, vice presidents don't even have ownership, do they, of their own

00:28:33.020 documents? A president does. I understand that. Yep. And there's a, there's a presidential records

00:28:39.740 act, uh, you know, governing that entire process. Uh, my, I want to know if Biden stole classified

00:28:49.020 documents and has them squirreled away. We've seen, we've seen what he's done as vice president.

00:28:55.260 Now, while he was a Senator, he had access to classified information because he was on

00:28:59.340 Senate foreign relations committee and other, uh, committee assignments where he received

00:29:04.540 classified briefings. And so who knows what he's ripped off and has tucked away and, uh, you know,

00:29:10.780 hiding it at a university archive. And the university is under, is a public institution has got to be

00:29:19.660 accountable for this kind of an agreement. This is an effort to obstruct justice. Uh, in my opinion,

00:29:27.980 uh, at the very least, when there is an active investigation of this president, uh, underway in 0.91

00:29:34.220 the house of representatives, they should have every, every, every damn document the guy ever messed 0.76

00:29:40.620 with. And look, we, we, we have a long track record going after public institutions that are trying to 0.80

00:29:48.540 hide documents. Uh, that everybody knows our federal work using the federal freedom of information act,

00:29:53.980 but there, there have been other public figures who've tried to tuck stuff away and hide it.

00:29:58.540 I remember governor Dean up in Vermont, he tried to broker some cute deal where he was going to hide

00:30:05.100 his records for 24 years. And he even bragged, I think on the New England public radio about,

00:30:11.500 he really didn't want anybody looking at his stuff, which is like waving a red flag for us. Right.

00:30:17.260 So we went up there to Vermont and got a hold of the public records. And we had to fight a Vermont

00:30:23.740 court that was very, you know, hard over his, on his, uh, trying to keep his stuff secret. And,

00:30:30.380 uh, these, look, all these phony politicians love to run on their record, right? They would,

00:30:36.220 oh, I've got a strong record. I've got a great voting record and I've done this project and that

00:30:41.660 project. And I've been involved on these committees and I've done this and that. And

00:30:46.700 they all want to pretend that they're running on their record, but they also are very quick to hide

00:30:50.700 their record as fast as they possibly can. So Joe Biden was sitting over in the U S Senate for what,

00:30:56.460 32 years. I mean, it was some enormous amount of time. You can imagine all the different crazy stuff.

00:31:03.980 And he's got a record of, of, of making, making and doing outrageous things, outrageous statements,

00:31:11.980 outrageous personal conduct. There's a woman who's gone public saying that he sexually assaulted her,

00:31:18.140 that she filed papers and records with his office. We're wondering if that's hidden, tucked away at the,

00:31:23.900 at the university library or archives. There's a lot of unanswered questions that really need to be

00:31:29.340 exposed. And, uh, we're going to keep slugging away on this appeal legally to get, uh, to get to the

00:31:36.460 records themselves. You know, the university of Pennsylvania and the university of Delaware

00:31:41.580 have a lot to explain. Uh, and the, and I know it's very unpopular with elected officials

00:31:48.780 to go after public institutions like that, or the, that are sometimes so allied with one party or the

00:31:55.420 other, one Senator, one Congressman or the other, but it's gotta be done. We have got to end this,

00:32:02.140 uh, defiance of the public's right to know your job at a judicial watch has never been more critical

00:32:08.460 to the nation than right now. I really believe this is a high watermark, uh, for, for you and all the

00:32:15.100 judicial watcher is doing, uh, to, to bring the truth to the surface for the American people, whether

00:32:22.220 it's Joe Biden, whether it is, uh, one governor or one, uh, part of the deep state, it all has to happen.

00:32:30.940 Uh, we've really got to end this, uh, denial of the public's right to know because right now they,

00:32:38.060 the national left-wing media, uh, is no longer an objective source of, uh, uh, journalism in this country.

00:32:46.700 Uh, we've got to have judicial watch. We've got to have, uh, the best of our public servants engaged,

00:32:53.580 uh, reaching, uh, into every dark recess to root out what is runaway, uh, political corruption in

00:33:02.140 our public institutions, whether they're universities or whether they're governments, your thoughts.

00:33:07.580 I agree with you a hundred percent. And, you know, the, the media is so complicit at this point,

00:33:14.140 you know, they, they actively cover up and phony up and water down and double talk so much stuff.

00:33:22.460 If you look at Biden's track record, I mean, really give it a hard look. Uh, if you look at the way in

00:33:28.140 which he's handled these classified documents compared to the way in which the Trump issue was,

00:33:33.100 was handled with regard to his right, rightful, uh, keeping of presidential records and how the

00:33:41.020 archives responded, the archives issued seven press releases about the Trump document, uh, issue and

00:33:47.420 the raid and what he had and what he didn't have. They haven't issued one document, uh, one, one press

00:33:52.460 release on the, on the Biden situation. And there's, there's an explanation for you. Seven, seven

00:33:58.940 press releases about Trump, zero about Biden. And the national archives have much to answer for,

00:34:05.420 and I suspect will be answering for, uh, their conduct. They're again, just another outpost of,

00:34:12.380 uh, uh, of the deep state. Uh, and they are being used as a, uh, as a tool and facilitator, uh,

00:34:21.580 for the Marxist Dem party in this country. I've, I've got to ask you now about something that's, uh,

00:34:27.580 up on my Wikipedia, uh, page. And I, I want to warn everybody. If you go to my Wikipedia page,

00:34:33.340 it is a mess. Wikipedia has got a mess there, but among the things there, uh, and again, uh,

00:34:39.900 our producer, John Fossett brought this to my attention. Uh, it comes under the heading, Chris,

00:34:44.540 and I knew you would just love to hear this one. The George Soros conspiracy theories, uh, referring to,

00:34:50.780 to, uh, to, uh, uh, my quote, peddling numerous conspiracy theories about the Jewish American

00:34:57.740 philanthropist. Think about the number of times you've heard George Soros, uh, referred to, uh,

00:35:03.660 with the, these, uh, adjectives, Jewish American philanthropist, George Soros. Uh, it's hilarious. 0.60

00:35:11.420 And then I've referred to him as quote, an evil SOB and without quotes insidious, your reaction.

00:35:20.140 And I should tell everybody, Chris and I have a history when it comes to George Soros.

00:35:25.740 We do. And, uh, you know, it's an incredibly dishonest representation. I'm, I'm looking at the,

00:35:32.700 at the page now. Uh, it is loaded with false and misleading commentary. And, uh, it is a subject

00:35:42.060 really, uh, this is projection on a grand scale. So, uh, George Soros has an organization called

00:35:49.500 the Open Society Foundation. Uh, it is, uh, some would say notorious, but there's certainly a large

00:35:56.380 and influential, influential operation. A couple of years back, Soros transferred 18

00:36:02.060 billion with a B dollars of his personal wealth into the Open Society Foundation. And the organization

00:36:08.540 itself also receives huge amounts of taxpayer money, U.S. taxpayer money for its operations.

00:36:14.940 Back in November of 2018, after this explosion, uh, of criticism that, uh, that you're making reference

00:36:23.260 to based off your Wikipedia page, uh, yours truly and judicial watch published a 30 page report.

00:36:30.140 That 30 page report has 152 footnotes in it. So it is, it is thoroughly excruciatingly documented.

00:36:39.020 And it talks about Soros and some of the operations that, you know, the Open Society Foundation

00:36:45.420 has engaged in. So they've done things like promoted open borders of Mexico. They've gone in and funded

00:36:52.780 anti-capitalist race, racialist type organizations like Black Lives Matter. They were active with

00:37:00.380 other organizations involved in the riots at Ferguson, Missouri. They've gone after our electoral

00:37:06.060 system, uh, system. They love abortion on demand. They think that's taxpayers should promote that. 0.56

00:37:13.660 Uh, they've opposed counter-terrorism efforts by the U.S. government under President Trump.

00:37:18.700 Uh, all kinds of, you know, leftist, leftist operations that you, you could possibly imagine.

00:37:27.020 And, and this report, this 30 page report that we published in November of 2018, it documents the

00:37:34.300 financial and staffing nexus between Open Society Foundation and the United States government. So when we

00:37:41.740 say that, look, there's an agenda being advanced at the U.S. taxpayer expense, you go into this report,

00:37:49.100 you can see where the money's going. We've documented every bit of it. And you can see the revolving door

00:37:55.260 of personnel staffing people who are with Open Society, then they go into the U.S. government,

00:38:01.260 and they're the undersecretary of state for blah, blah, blah. Then they rotate back out into Open Society.

00:38:07.660 And then the next administration, sure enough, they go back into government. It's a rotating door. Uh,

00:38:13.660 and so again, excruciating detail, uh, 28 pages of text with 154 footnotes. We went in and decided we

00:38:22.780 were just going to document the hell out of it so that when people put up crazy Wikipedia posts like

00:38:27.900 they do, uh, we could knock it down with facts. Well, and, and good luck with that. I, years ago,

00:38:36.460 I decided not to even raise a question of inaccuracy on my Wikipedia page. It was ridiculous.

00:38:43.180 Wikipedia picked the worst picture they could find of me. They're a left-wing outfit. There's no way 0.68

00:38:48.300 you're going to deal rationally with them. There's nothing about them that's going to be fair.

00:38:52.460 Anyone who expects that from Wikipedia is going to be sorely disappointed. Uh, at least I can say

00:38:59.900 with absolute assurance, I certainly have been. Uh, I, I love this, uh, reference though. Uh,

00:39:06.860 Fox stated that the guest Chris Farrell of Judicial Watch would no longer be booked and that the program

00:39:12.060 episode would be, would be withdrawn from the Fox News archives as if to, as if to say that we,

00:39:20.300 indeed you and me were in the wrong, uh, you and I were in the wrong, uh, it was one of those things

00:39:27.900 that's sounds like a tacit approval of the, uh, the complaint, uh, from the Soros, uh, folks, uh, I, which

00:39:34.860 I, by the way, I apologize to you at the time. I will apologize to you throughout my life, uh, for that. Uh,

00:39:40.860 it was what I think the sorriest moment in Fox's history. Uh, and they've had a couple, but that was certainly

00:39:47.260 one of them. Well, you, and I appreciate that, but of course you had absolutely nothing to do with

00:39:52.300 it. Well, that's true too, but cowardly, cowardly, uh, administrators and, and, uh, and corporate 0.95

00:39:59.980 executives who, uh, who, you know, completely misread and made stupid decisions about things that were 0.99

00:40:10.060 objectively false and you, you had absolutely nothing to do with it. Although I, I always 0.98

00:40:15.580 deeply appreciate that. Just your, your kind words about it, but your friendship on this,

00:40:21.580 no, no guilt or blame falls on you. It's the idiots at, uh, at the Fox corporate offices. 1.00

00:40:27.900 Well, I, I will, you, as you well know, I fought this, uh, with everything I had, uh, and, uh, 1.00

00:40:35.740 uh, like it's happened a couple of times, uh, and I finally lost a fight. Uh, but, uh, this is, uh,

00:40:45.980 outrageous. It, it's just unbelievable. Uh, and by the way, uh, I think it's, I should spell it out

00:40:53.020 for folks. I am absolutely pro, uh, Israel. There is never, has never been any, uh, suggestion

00:41:02.140 otherwise by any of my conduct or anything I've ever said, but yet they had, this was their standard.

00:41:08.620 Let's protect your edge. And yes, I do still believe he's a evil son of a gun. Uh, I cleaned 0.98

00:41:15.900 that up because my wife is within hearing distance. Uh, it is, uh, and he is, I mean, we, we know for a

00:41:24.620 fact this business about, uh, a, uh, anti-Semitic trope. Now that is one of the worst kinds of, uh,

00:41:31.100 nonsense, uh, that they could come up with because in point of fact, Soros had in the

00:41:37.900 administration, the Biden administration had one person in every transition team, uh, for the

00:41:44.460 departments, uh, some 17, uh, people, uh, organized around that. And for them to want to

00:41:51.580 argue about the extent of the insinuation of the Soros, uh, philosophy, ideology, and programs

00:41:58.220 is, is, is mind boggling. Uh, it doesn't stand out. Yeah. A hundred percent. And, uh, poor Joe,

00:42:06.060 the, the Genova, I just, they quote him as saying on my show, George Soros controls a very large part

00:42:13.820 of the career foreign service, the United States state department. He now controls activities of

00:42:18.060 FBI agents overseas who work for NGOs. That was very evident in Ukraine. Now that was in 2019,

00:42:25.900 ladies and gentlemen, that was prescient. That wasn't just, you know, that, that was not, uh,

00:42:32.780 anything anti-Semitic. He used George Soros's name. He suggested precisely what were the facts

00:42:39.980 that Soros supported people were with throughout, uh, the state department. And by the way,

00:42:46.860 in particular in Ukraine. That is exactly correct. Joe said nothing wrong or inaccurate. It's, uh,

00:42:56.940 the fact that he said it is what makes them crazy and that's why they try to smear him. Yeah,

00:43:01.660 absolutely. And of course, uh, by the way, there's a pretty, pretty well-placed, uh, uh,

00:43:07.580 Soros acolyte at the state department right now. His name is Tony Blinken. Uh, he, uh,

00:43:14.620 and his parents are very close to the Soros, uh, family and organization as well. And by the way,

00:43:20.780 there's a, there's a sudden, uh, lifting of, uh, uh, taboos around George Soros's name,

00:43:29.020 Matt Palumbo. And I mentioned this to him the other day, a bright young author. Uh, the book is

00:43:34.860 the man behind the curtain, the secret, uh, network of George Soros, uh, which I recommend highly to

00:43:41.020 everyone. It, and he said it this way, uh, uh, that, you know, having done the book and I said

00:43:50.300 to him, the reality is suddenly we're hearing his name. We, there is no longer a taboo. I mean,

00:43:56.860 people were in hushed, uh, retreat every time they even thought about mentioning his name in national

00:44:04.540 television. I'm talking about powerful networks, uh, powerful news networks and something's changing

00:44:12.380 here. And I don't know rightly what it is, but suddenly they, the taboo has been lifted.

00:44:20.300 And, uh, I don't know what it is either, but I, you know, there are people that have insisted on

00:44:24.700 reporting facts regardless of what the, the, uh, the drum beat from the organized left is,

00:44:31.260 um, and realize that, you know, the open society foundation, uh, you know, has an awful lot of

00:44:38.860 subsidiaries and affiliates and associates, et cetera, who don't necessarily advertise what their

00:44:44.460 connection is. Uh, but I mean, there, it is documentable and we've done it, uh, and you can

00:44:52.460 show the people, the money, the contacts, the organizations. Most people don't know about

00:44:58.060 what something called the East West management Institute. Well, that's a, it's an operation.

00:45:03.500 It's an affiliate of open society foundation. They don't know that the open society foundation

00:45:08.860 engaged in all these projects around the world, trying to, you know, influence the outcome of

00:45:13.980 elections. They do. Uh, you know, it's, it's, it is a, an expansive, sophisticated,

00:45:22.700 well-funded operation that has all sorts of contacts, controls, organizations, et cetera,

00:45:30.060 projects around the world. And to say otherwise, I mean, if you, if you said that they didn't,

00:45:35.100 they'd be insulted, right? They'd be upset that they're not being effective and, and not being

00:45:39.980 productive with their money and their programs. They are very, and, and, and the U S taxpayer

00:45:46.300 is financing it to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year. So it's your money.

00:45:54.460 Your money's going to support it. Yeah. Yeah. Your, your tax dollars and mine going to, uh, the,

00:46:03.580 an organization whose interests are not in any way aligned with traditional America. It's just, uh,

00:46:11.580 it's just straightforward. Uh, this organization, open society is funding everything that is

00:46:17.340 antithetical, uh, to our founding values and to our national interest. Uh, the Soros, uh, programs,

00:46:24.380 uh, I want to, uh, well, obviously go to judicial watch.org, uh, where on judicial watch org,

00:46:31.820 can folks get those, uh, Soros reports? If you, if the, the name of the document, if you,

00:46:38.060 you can just even put a couple of these words in to search for it, you'll find it immediately.

00:46:43.180 It's called the financial and staffing nexus, any X U S the financial and staffing nexus

00:46:50.620 between the open society foundations and the U S government. If you put an open society

00:46:55.740 foundations, you should find it to put in open society, financial, any terms like that.

00:47:02.140 It'll pop up on the judicial watch website real fast. You can even just use what your favorite

00:47:06.620 search engine, whatever you're using and put in financial staffing, open society foundations,

00:47:13.020 and bang, you'll get it. And, uh, it's excruciatingly detailed. Basically, every sentence

00:47:20.140 of the report has a footnote and, uh, not, not to our reporting or our opinion pieces, but the outside

00:47:27.500 objective, either the open society foundation website, where it's their own representations

00:47:33.340 of what they're doing or to websites like USA spending dot gov, where it shows the grants that

00:47:40.540 their government's making to open society, um, or to, or to individual persons who have rotated into and

00:47:48.940 out of the government from open society. You can look at their personal web pages or their, uh, the,

00:47:55.500 the organization staffing documents and see who these people are and, and how they've gone

00:48:01.740 into and out of us government and how the money, your taxpayer dollars have gone to open society

00:48:09.420 programs. So it's, uh, it's very, very detailed when you read through all of it. I think, uh,

00:48:16.700 even though the document's a few years old, I think anybody looking at it would go, holy cow,

00:48:21.420 they, they would have no idea that so many people and so much money are woven together in this operation.

00:48:28.860 It's, it's remarkable again, judicial watch.org, uh, and, uh, look for that. Uh, I want to ask you

00:48:37.340 before I turn to you for your concluding remarks, Bill Barr now saying he didn't overstep in the

00:48:41.660 Durham probe of the Mueller Russiagate investigation. I, I want a Chris Farrell analysis, if you would,

00:48:50.540 on that. I, I, it's just, uh, it's stunning the reversal that Bill Barr has made in just the last few

00:48:57.820 months. Uh, you know, Barr is another disgrace. Barr is sort of like a, uh, he's to the Department of 0.87

00:49:07.340 Justice what Milley is, the Department of Defense. This guy's a disgrace and he's a, he's a really 0.95

00:49:14.060 both somebody that betrayed the American people, not just President Trump. He betrayed the American 0.99

00:49:19.740 people and he did it in a really cowardly way. And, uh, he, he was brought in, I think by the

00:49:27.260 establishment, Rhino, you know, Republican, uh, operatives to hopefully sort of, you know, manage 0.58

00:49:35.420 or control in their view, control Trump in some way. And, uh, he sat by and watched the president be

00:49:44.780 impeached over Ukraine when they knew that they had the Hunter Biden laptop already in their

00:49:50.540 possession. They knew the real story of what was going on. Uh, he told the president he couldn't

00:49:56.380 do things that he did have the right to do. He stopped the president from appointing his own

00:50:02.060 special counsel to investigate matters of corruption on Biden where that he could have done.

00:50:07.660 He, he, he really, he's tried to play both ends against the middle. And I think that he's being

00:50:14.780 exposed for, for what he is. Chris Farrell. Thanks for being with us here today. Uh, if you will,

00:50:20.220 you're, you're concluding remarks. I've enjoyed it tremendously. Thanks, my friend. Lou, thank you

00:50:25.660 very much. It's always a pleasure to be on with you. And, uh, looks for folks listening. If you want

00:50:31.340 more background or information on any of the stuff we talked about today, uh, our website at Judicial Watch

00:50:37.340 is Judicial Watch. That's all together. One word, judicialwatch.org, judicialwatch.org. You can see

00:50:45.340 all of our work, the lawsuits, the public, uh, information requests, uh, our reporting on different

00:50:51.580 topics. You can read the, the Soros report of the Open Society Foundation report that we discussed

00:50:56.780 earlier. Uh, we try to make everything that we do quickly and easily available up online. Uh, and if you

00:51:04.220 want to support us, that would be great too. And, uh, Lou, thank you very much for giving me the

00:51:09.420 opportunity to come on today and visit with you and talk about such important, uh, public policy

00:51:14.300 matters. Always. And anytime, my friend, thanks so much, Chris, for being with us and to look forward

00:51:19.580 to talking with you soon. And again, thank you for all that you, uh, and Tom Fitton and the good folks

00:51:25.340 that Judicial Watch do. Uh, we appreciate, uh, everything. Uh, thanks for being with us and God

00:51:32.140 bless you. Thank you, Lou. You too. Chris Farrell, judicialwatch.org. Chris mentioned the report by

00:51:39.180 Judicial Watch on the nexus between Open Society Foundations and the U.S. government funding.

00:51:47.500 Go to loudobs.com and you'll see the link there for that report. It'll be under Judicial Watch's report

00:51:55.020 on Open Society. So thanks everybody for joining us here today. Tomorrow on the Great America show,

00:52:00.780 our guest is Congressman Cory Mills, Great American. So please be with us for that and much more

00:52:07.180 right here tomorrow. Till then, God bless you and God bless America.

The Great America Show - February 21, 2023

IF WE FLEW UKRAINIAN FLAGS OVER THE U.S., THEN BIDEN MIGHT DEFEND OUR AIRSPACE & BORDERS, SAYS JUDICIAL WATCH’S CHRIS FARRELL

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