The Great America Show - IRANIAN CRASH OR COUP IN THE MOUNTAINS？

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00:00:33.760 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:36.900 Good to have you with us.

00:00:38.400 It's been another rough start to the week for George Soros sponsored DA Alvin Bragg and his show trial.

00:00:46.020 Michael Cohen back on the stand yesterday where he admitted under oath that he stole money from the Trump organization.

00:00:55.040 Cohen said he was sent $50,000 to pay a pollster, and instead of paying the $50,000, Cohen paid him $20,000 and kept $30,000 for himself.

00:01:05.900 Now, in the eyes of most all of us, that is stealing, straight up stealing.

00:01:12.160 But if you ask Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC, he'll tell you that was a bonus that Michael Cohen deserved.

00:01:20.840 And I'm not joking.

00:01:22.400 That's what Lawrence O'Donnell is made of.

00:01:25.500 Take a listen.

00:01:26.920 He asked about the $50,000 that's irrelevant to the $130,000.

00:01:32.640 And that's where he very effectively got Michael Cohen to say, to agree that, yes, he stole $30,000.

00:01:40.880 Later, when Cohen was asked about that on redirect by the prosecution, it didn't really sound like stealing $30,000.

00:01:48.120 It sounded a lot like Michael Cohen doing the little that he could within that calculation to rebalance the bonus he thought he deserved.

00:01:58.260 And it still came out as less than the bonus he thought he deserved and the bonus he'd gotten the year before. 0.96

00:02:04.240 Only on MSNBC do you get a defense of a crook like Cohen. 0.99

00:02:10.500 Cohen was also not shying away from the fact he's a pathological liar. 0.98

00:02:15.200 He was asked by Trump attorney Todd Blanche about a statement he had previously made, 0.93

00:02:21.400 in which he said he would lie to a jury if it were to affect his personal life.

00:02:27.240 Cohen said flat out he stands by that statement and would lie to a jury.

00:02:33.680 Cohen also told Blanche he has a financial interest in the outcome of this case and is mulling a run for Congress.

00:02:42.060 This stuff is beyond pathological.

00:02:45.960 It's almost like scripted for Hollywood, where pathological people, well, they just do very well there.

00:02:53.220 And the International Criminal Court, you've heard of them in The Hague,

00:02:57.440 they've issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for crimes against the Hamas terrorists.

00:03:05.360 You can't make this up either.

00:03:07.600 Puppet President Joe Biden says the United States fundamentally rejects the ICC's effort to issue arrest warrants for Netanyahu or any senior Israeli official.

00:03:18.700 Netanyahu says the warrants are a moral outrage of historic proportions and that Israel has a right to defend itself.

00:03:27.480 The outrageous decision by the ICC prosecutor Karim Khan to seek arrest warrants against the democratically elected leaders of Israel

00:03:34.780 is a moral outrage of historic proportions.

00:03:38.400 Israel is waging a just war against Hamas, a genocidal terrorist organization that perpetrated the worst attack on the Jewish people since the Holocaust.

00:03:54.580 Hamas massacred 1,200 Jews, raped Jewish women, burnt Jewish babies, took hundreds hostage.

00:04:01.380 Now, in the face of these horrors, Mr. Khan creates a twisted and false moral equivalence between the leaders of Israel and the henchmen of Hamas.

00:04:11.320 This is like creating a moral equivalence after September 11th between President Bush and Osama bin Laden,

00:04:17.840 or during World War II between FDR and Hitler.

00:04:21.020 What a travesty of justice.

00:04:22.780 What a disgrace.

00:04:23.400 The prosecutor's absurd charges against me and Israel's defense minister are merely an attempt to deny Israel the basic right of self-defense.

00:04:32.960 Well, to take up all of this and the latest out of Iran, we asked foreign policy expert Waleed Ferris to join us to break it all down.

00:04:41.720 Joining us now, Waleed Ferris.

00:04:45.220 And Waleed, let me turn to the death of Rassi in Iran, in fog, in the mountainous area.

00:04:56.360 Do you believe it was an accident here in Temple?

00:05:00.780 It could be.

00:05:01.900 So there are two options.

00:05:03.360 Option one is that there was a mechanical failure and collapse.

00:05:06.780 Option number two is that somebody actually played with the engine or with other parts of the small helicopter,

00:05:14.660 and then that became actually an accident.

00:05:16.840 But the suspicion is the fact that this is a passage between mountains.

00:05:21.100 Helicopters, planes have been taking that route for many, many months and years,

00:05:25.120 and they know exactly what are the angles to use or when not to go.

00:05:29.220 And then there could be the other aspect of somebody told them, you can go, and while the situation is really dire.

00:05:34.740 But the most important point is that this is a convoy of three helicopters,

00:05:40.040 and they were accompanying the third helicopter in the center.

00:05:43.920 And then now that helicopter goes down, and the two copters continue like this.

00:05:47.420 They don't go back and circle around.

00:05:49.280 So the Iranians had to spend about nine hours to find them.

00:05:53.020 But all of that will be resolved one day.

00:05:55.100 I don't think the Iranian Islamic Republic is going to give us that information.

00:05:58.720 But that is against a backdrop loop.

00:06:00.520 And the backdrop is a struggle that everybody in Iran knew about between the office of the presidency, Raisi,

00:06:07.560 and then the highest offices in the Islamic Republic is Khamenei A.

00:06:11.320 And what was it about?

00:06:12.840 About struggle for power.

00:06:14.720 Khamenei A, who is getting much, much older, and he's sick as well, 0.92

00:06:18.020 wanted his son, Khamenei A Jr., to become the president.

00:06:21.580 So that would actually allow us to think that this may have been a struggle within the Islamic Republic.

00:06:28.840 And to the degree that this is the case, what are the next few weeks to look like?

00:06:37.340 If this is an open power struggle, what happens?

00:06:43.060 Here's the problem.

00:06:44.540 Raisi was in a position as a president to talk to whomever he wanted.

00:06:47.740 So he was already at a certain altitude.

00:06:50.520 He even thought that he could be speaking with some units of the army.

00:06:54.440 He's not doing a revolution.

00:06:55.780 He's just concentrating powers in his hands.

00:06:58.220 Now, Lou, let me say it the first time now today on broadcast.

00:07:01.820 There is so much money in Iran.

00:07:04.360 We're talking about $150 billion.

00:07:07.100 And you're the top man on analysis of the financial world.

00:07:11.000 That is going by itself to generate struggle.

00:07:13.820 Who's going to be in control of that money, that huge money?

00:07:16.340 Raisi or the next Ayatollah, which may have prompted this.

00:07:21.140 Now that Raisi is dead, was killed or not, we don't know.

00:07:25.020 It's going to be an Islamic republic on steroids for the next, I don't know, like 48 days. 1.00

00:07:31.700 They're going to be normal.

00:07:32.860 They're going to have a transition.

00:07:34.540 And then the elections.

00:07:35.400 And you know how the elections work in Iran.

00:07:37.660 They will create those elections.

00:07:39.180 And then when that happens, you're going to have an alignment between the presidency and

00:07:43.560 between the top Islamic job.

00:07:46.400 And that country, that government, that regime will be on steroid against us, against Israel,

00:07:51.200 against the Iranian population.

00:07:53.280 And by the time they know that the Biden administration is not going to do anything between now,

00:07:58.720 at least in January, the end of January of 2025.

00:08:01.700 That's the problem.

00:08:03.820 And how long will it take to see that settle?

00:08:07.280 How many weeks or months do you think it will take for Iran to sort of settle where they're 0.92

00:08:13.300 going to go?

00:08:14.160 The Ayatollahs, who will be their choice? 0.99

00:08:18.260 What will be the election?

00:08:20.200 When will the election be?

00:08:22.220 They have 50 days for the election, so it's running.

00:08:24.220 The clock is running at this point in time.

00:08:25.800 So I do not expect that they're going to do something dramatic between now and the election

00:08:30.080 that would not be to their advantage.

00:08:32.980 But there's going to be a convergence between two things.

00:08:35.480 Very difficult to say it, but that's how I see it.

00:08:38.000 Number one, to consolidate their power, grab all these positions, make sure that the

00:08:41.840 Revolutionary Guard is in their pockets.

00:08:43.720 They will promise them money.

00:08:45.440 But second, that we in the United States with this weak administration are heading towards

00:08:50.120 our election.

00:08:50.960 So we become very weak in terms of foreign policy.

00:08:54.160 We are already weak.

00:08:55.120 We'll become mega weak as we get closer.

00:08:57.660 And Lou, you know, God knows what this administration and their supporters are preparing for these

00:09:03.320 elections.

00:09:03.920 We had a huge example in 2020.

00:09:06.700 So the United States won't be in a position really between now and early November to do

00:09:12.660 much on foreign policy.

00:09:13.640 This is the time where I feel that the next regime in Iran will do whatever it wants to 0.98

00:09:19.120 do in the region, even here at home in the United States, if they wish so.

00:09:22.920 So in their spectacle of Europe sending their condolences to Tehran, I mean, over the death of the

00:09:31.820 butcher of Tehran himself, Recy.

00:09:35.260 And this look, it's got a peculiar look and sense to it.

00:09:41.860 People are just sort of leaders, European leaders in particular, falling all over themselves.

00:09:47.320 Is Europe really that weak, that, I don't know, subservient at this point to the threats of

00:09:59.400 Iran to Russia? 0.58

00:10:01.380 I mean, what else could they do?

00:10:03.100 They are way beyond that, Lou.

00:10:05.720 They actually, Europe as institutions has fallen, has fallen to what?

00:10:10.400 To the billions of dollars they have been actually contracting or as a transaction with

00:10:14.980 the Iran regime.

00:10:15.780 Do we think then when the West sends $150 billion to the Islamic Republic, that they're going

00:10:21.720 to put it at the service of the middle class?

00:10:23.840 No, there is, there are brokers.

00:10:26.000 And those brokers are sometimes seen, sometimes unseen behind the executive powers.

00:10:30.900 They make 10 percent, count with me. 0.62

00:10:32.920 That's $15 billion over the past few years.

00:10:35.540 You could establish the mother of all lobbies with that.

00:10:38.460 And then when, as you said, we look at these officials of the EU or others, and even our

00:10:43.860 State Department being so concerned about, you know, the loss of the president and they

00:10:49.060 are utilizing him as he's a major leader in the region.

00:10:52.900 That is exactly the map we need to see.

00:10:55.680 I was speaking with members of families of hostages inside Iranian jails, Islamic Republic

00:11:01.720 jails, and they were telling me, that shows who has been impacted, who has been influenced.

00:11:06.240 We have a real map of those who issued those statements in Europe and in the United States

00:11:10.800 who must have been, I think, have been influenced by the Iran deal and its dividends.

00:11:16.680 Yeah, it's outrageous.

00:11:20.360 And we're going to take a quick break.

00:11:23.540 But when we come back, I'd like to get your views about what in the world the International

00:11:28.340 Criminal Court at The Hague is doing.

00:11:31.020 When is, why has it been so emboldened that it would go after Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime

00:11:38.040 Minister of Israel, and the top Hamas leaders as well?

00:11:42.520 Well, who do these people think they are?

00:11:45.340 We'll be talking with Waleed Ferris about that and much more.

00:11:49.240 Stay with us.

00:11:49.840 We'll be right back.

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00:13:27.420 We're back.

00:13:28.500 We're talking now with Dr. Waleed Faris.

00:13:30.920 And Waleed, this international court going after Benjamin Netanyahu is fascinating to me.

00:13:37.840 It's a United Nations adjunct, if you will.

00:13:43.380 And it is really delusional.

00:13:45.620 It is also where The Hague is also where the special counsel, Jack Smith, used to hang out,

00:13:56.020 doing what and why was he there to begin with.

00:13:59.540 But now they've decided that they have apparently sufficient military power to go out and arrest Benjamin Netanyahu. 0.99

00:14:09.660 Who are these fools and what should we do about them? 0.98

00:14:14.060 Well, that's one of the problems, major problems that international institutions have been facing. 0.99

00:14:19.260 The influence of the radicals around the world, again, including the influence of the Iran deal.

00:14:25.700 Money are all over the place, not just in courts, in media, in academia.

00:14:30.180 We've seen what they've been doing in this nation.

00:14:32.840 But where were those judges or that counsel, with all due respect, when Assad of Syria killed more than 450,000 people?

00:14:43.600 Where?

00:14:44.540 Why are they not talking about Darfur's genocide?

00:14:47.600 Just last year, hundreds of thousands of black Sudanese members of tribes have been killed by militias, by jihadi militias.

00:14:55.820 Not a word from the ICC.

00:14:57.660 What happened to them when all these executions in Iran have been taking place and people tortured?

00:15:03.560 This is not really a judiciary decision.

00:15:06.440 This is basically like saying in 2001, we are going to indict George Bush on the one hand,

00:15:13.000 and of course, the head of al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden.

00:15:16.000 That is crazy.

00:15:17.540 That decision is crazy.

00:15:18.680 It shows that our international law, the institutions of our international law,

00:15:22.240 have been politicized, unfortunately, to a point where a very strange decision is to bring in the leaders of Israel,

00:15:30.520 a democratic nation, and to compare them with the heads of terrorist Hamas. 0.52

00:15:34.560 This is unseen, unheard of.

00:15:36.740 Yeah, unheard of.

00:15:38.140 Is it time to bulldoze the United Nations building on the east side of Manhattan?

00:15:44.460 There are two ways of thinking about it.

00:15:47.520 Some people, they lost hope in all institutions and want to do some political bulldozing.

00:15:52.980 Some other people, I belong to that other wing, that say, no, we're going to go in.

00:15:56.900 We're going to actually go in with the new administration.

00:15:59.000 There are going to be change in Latin America, change in Europe.

00:16:01.360 And that new international community needs to absolutely reform and push back against those radical influences across the board,

00:16:08.780 not just the UN, but anything UN-affiliated.

00:16:11.760 I mean, look at those said humanitarian agencies in Gaza or in Lebanon with Hezbollah.

00:16:18.420 They're filled with actual members of the jihadist organization.

00:16:21.900 So there are two ways to look at it.

00:16:23.260 If you have hope, you go in, you reform it.

00:16:25.980 If you don't have hope, then your option would be the last one.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, I'm definitely in the bulldozer group without any question.

00:16:36.940 But let's go to Europe.

00:16:39.320 Mourning the death of a terrorist, one of the leaders of a state sponsor, the world's greatest state sponsor of terrorism.

00:16:51.080 What kind of game is it that the Europeans are playing? 0.98

00:16:55.580 And why don't we make much of it?

00:16:58.700 Because it's really, to me, both irrational and frankly, morally bankrupt of them to do so.

00:17:08.000 I would go, Lou, with the morally dimension.

00:17:11.400 Because it seems that after Reconstruction, what has been happening, it's really about money and financial interests.

00:17:18.660 As I said, you're the expert on this.

00:17:20.360 When you have so much, so many billions that goes to the regime,

00:17:24.640 and so much money that the Taliban have now, or other Islamists and jihadists,

00:17:29.040 or even, of course, you have China and Russia.

00:17:30.920 It's a different story.

00:17:31.800 But that money becomes an international fund to influence these institutions, these governments.

00:17:39.900 And these are actually financial interests behind the government.

00:17:43.100 They're having business in Iran.

00:17:45.360 You have all these companies in Europe that are completely doing business with the Iran regime.

00:17:50.460 And therefore, obviously, they can put pressure on their politicians.

00:17:54.380 They could put pressure on the executives, on the members of the legislatures,

00:17:58.880 and ask them to give importance and celebrity status to the fallen, to the president of that regime,

00:18:07.200 who has been, as you just said a few minutes ago, responsible for the execution,

00:18:12.320 for the execution of tens of thousands of Iranian citizens, men, females, kids, and elderly over the years.

00:18:20.460 So this is unthinkable, another unthinkable matter that has been done by these institutions, unfortunately.

00:18:26.380 And let's turn to the Chinese now and the network that's been revealed between China, the CCP,

00:18:38.920 and these various pro-Hamas groups that are demonstrating rioting all across America.

00:18:45.660 Your thoughts?

00:18:46.120 Well, first of all, first of all, the actual organizers of the riots or the jihads or the intifadas

00:18:54.780 that have been happening on our campuses from sea to shining sea are the supporters of the Islamic Republic.

00:19:01.920 But the Islamic Republic has a strategic agreement with China, with the government of China.

00:19:07.840 Two years ago, they signed an agreement, billions of dollars,

00:19:11.300 that China will provide them with, you know, protection and support and buy their oil and all of that.

00:19:17.760 So you have a cooperation between the two.

00:19:20.100 Those who have the people on the ground are mostly the jihadists, the Iranians and others. 1.00

00:19:25.220 And those who have the cash, you know, go to China, the big bank, where we have our trillions of dollars, as we all know.

00:19:31.100 So that's how it works.

00:19:32.300 But all of that is coming as a result of the weakness that we have in Washington.

00:19:38.520 This did not happen under the previous, you know, president, President Trump, not even under the president, President Bush at the time.

00:19:46.140 So when these radical forces basically feel that there is a sort of a weakness in the center

00:19:52.980 or an influence that could, you know, push back against what the administration wants to see happening,

00:19:58.740 then that's what they do.

00:19:59.820 Well, in Farris, we're talking with Dr. Waleed Farris.

00:20:04.260 We're talking next about what we're going to talk about, what's the CIA doing

00:20:08.640 and what is their latest round of activities in the Middle East?

00:20:13.080 And oh, yeah, let's take a look at North Africa as well.

00:20:17.140 Central Africa, too.

00:20:18.700 We'll be right back with Dr. Waleed Farris.

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00:20:46.800 We're back with Dr. Waleed Farris.

00:20:58.740 And Waleed, let me ask you, the CIA involvement right now in the Middle East, how concentrated is it?

00:21:06.480 We've seen William Burns lead the efforts to create a ceasefire.

00:21:13.620 It's odd that the CIA director would be the one to be doing that rather than the secretary of state or an ambassador or an emissary from state.

00:21:23.580 Your thoughts about what that means symbolically to the Middle East, all parties, whether it be Israel, whether it be Iran, whomever,

00:21:32.420 what does it mean for the United States to put William Burns into the head of the talks on a ceasefire?

00:21:41.480 That's a great question, Lou.

00:21:43.060 Very few people understand how the Middle East perceived it,

00:21:46.360 why actually those regimes would like to sit down with the head of our intelligence agencies and not with our diplomat,

00:21:53.760 because that's the Middle Eastern thing.

00:21:55.760 You know, when you use the term mukhabarat, intelligence of security agencies in the Middle East,

00:22:00.020 people say, well, that's really where decisions are made.

00:22:03.060 That's not the case in liberal democracies or democracy, Western democracies.

00:22:07.940 The problem is, at this point in time, is that those agencies that we have,

00:22:13.540 which should also inform Congress about everything's happening,

00:22:16.820 are given instructions by the teams who are working with the executive.

00:22:20.880 So if the team that is working basically on the Iran dossier, the Iran deal dossier,

00:22:27.000 that team would influence the president that this is the right way to do it.

00:22:30.520 And that team most likely is the one who says, well, if you want to send a real message,

00:22:34.960 you don't send the State Department, you send the CIA.

00:22:37.920 But that's dangerous, dangerous for the CIA to be politicized,

00:22:41.380 because then they are uncovering who they are, who are their friends, so on and so forth.

00:22:45.320 And that's dangerous also for our allies on the ground and dangerous also for our constitutional order.

00:22:50.740 We are clearly separating the powers.

00:22:53.840 But when you ask one of these agencies that is supposed to be secretive and not public

00:22:58.640 to become public in negotiations instead of the State Department or the other way around,

00:23:03.580 if you ask the other agencies like the diplomacy agencies to do secret work,

00:23:09.580 then we're going to have the same results.

00:23:11.380 I think that has to be reformed, that has to be reorganized, and that has to be corrupted.

00:23:15.320 And as we wrap up here, Waleed, give us your sense of just how much disruption,

00:23:22.400 instability you expect between now and Election Day,

00:23:27.540 and assuming that President Trump is elected and can restore that stability,

00:23:34.240 can restore, if you will, domestically law and order,

00:23:38.860 and some sort of stability to the international gathering of countries and communities.

00:23:50.560 Well, number two, let me visit number two.

00:23:52.840 A Trump administration or a different administration that would change the policies,

00:23:57.520 foreign policies of the United States and national security policies of the United States is a must.

00:24:02.100 I even say if this administration in the last 10 years of its life, before the elections, I mean,

00:24:08.880 will change, I'm for it.

00:24:10.600 But they're not going to change because the interests are so large.

00:24:13.880 So a second or another administration that could be at this point in time,

00:24:17.800 it's decided, would be headed by President Trump, is needed in the region.

00:24:22.420 He said, we need to reestablish the Abraham Accord, we need to actually contain the Iran Islamic regime, 0.99

00:24:29.260 we need to stop the war in Ukraine.

00:24:31.920 We need a long list, but he needs that other administration coming,

00:24:35.220 needs also the best people to help them, and people who are loyal to these goals.

00:24:40.420 That was not the case in 2017 to 2020.

00:24:43.880 Having said that, I would say the real concern is not what would a next Trump administration do.

00:24:51.300 It's the bridge to get there.

00:24:52.960 I still have concern.

00:24:54.140 That's not my field, but I've seen and, you know, lived through 2020.

00:24:58.320 I have a concern that there could be a lot of instabilities before getting to the elections

00:25:03.200 and some instability from the elections to have an administration for the reasons that all of us know.

00:25:09.240 It's like this opposition, this radical opposition for any alternative to the Obama-Biden policies.

00:25:17.080 And as you say, there's no doubt we are watching the third term of Barack Obama 0.70

00:25:23.260 in this hapless, inept Biden regime, a puppet only, and his masters unwaveringly Marxist, 0.90

00:25:35.180 and they mean to destroy this country without any question whatsoever. 0.91

00:25:40.580 That's a question that has to be confronted first by Donald Trump.

00:25:44.540 And I think we're truly at an existential demarcation in this November 5th election.

00:25:51.240 I don't believe there will be another election if President Trump were to be denied election again.

00:25:59.240 Your thoughts on that?

00:26:00.620 He has to win, and I think the numbers now show.

00:26:02.880 Those I remember in all previous elections since I became an American citizen,

00:26:06.240 you would know more or less where the numbers are going.

00:26:09.220 And those numbers are becoming more dramatic for both sides.

00:26:13.040 So what is it that's going to come like between now and November

00:26:16.980 and change these numbers other than some super natural political thing,

00:26:24.440 which will be pressure applied of the kind of demonstrations,

00:26:27.780 of the kind of political guerrilla that took place in the summer of 2020.

00:26:32.020 And at the heels of the intifadas that took place,

00:26:34.940 I am very concerned that someone, some force is going to use these intifada,

00:26:39.340 jihadi, Hamas forces to disturb our elections.

00:26:42.980 That's my real concern at this point in time.

00:26:45.220 And it's one that I happen to share as well.

00:26:49.380 Waleed Faris, good to see you.

00:26:51.000 Appreciate it.

00:26:51.720 And I look forward to our next conversation.

00:26:54.160 Thanks so much.

00:26:54.560 Thanks to Waleed and thanks everybody for being with us today.

00:26:59.180 Be sure to join us tomorrow for The Great America Show.

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00:27:27.100 God bless you and may God bless America.

The Great America Show - May 21, 2024

IRANIAN CRASH OR COUP IN THE MOUNTAINS？

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