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00:01:18.340 Hello, everybody. This is the Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome. Great to have

00:01:27.300 you with us. The carnage in Israel continues for a fifth day. Since Saturday, Hamas has 0.84

00:01:33.760 reportedly killed more than 1,100 Israelis, wounded 4,000. The United States has also confirmed

00:01:40.460 at least 22 Americans have been killed in the terrorist attacks. Mortars and artillery rounds

00:01:46.260 were fired into Israel from Syria. Hezbollah terrorists exchanging gunfire with Israeli Defense

00:01:51.960 Force soldiers and IDF soldiers found babies that have been beheaded by the Hamas terrorists.

00:01:59.380 The spokesman for Hamas issued a threat, saying an Israeli hostage will be killed for every bomb

00:02:04.440 dropped on a civilian house by Israel without prior warning. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

00:02:11.920 an address to his nation, saying Israel didn't want this war, but now that they have it,

00:02:17.620 they will finish it. Israel is at war. We didn't want this war. It was forced upon us in the most

00:02:25.320 brutal and savage way. But though Israel didn't start this war, Israel will finish it. Once the Jewish 1.00

00:02:33.160 people were stateless. Once the Jewish people were defenseless. No longer. Hamas will understand that by 0.93

00:02:41.040 attacking us, they have made a mistake of historic proportions. We will exact a price that will be

00:02:48.160 remembered by them and Israel's other enemies for decades to come. The savage attacks that Hamas 0.99

00:02:55.240 perpetrated against innocent Israelis are mind-boggling, slaughtering families in their homes,

00:03:02.200 massacring hundreds of young people at an outdoor festival, kidnapping scores of women, children,

00:03:08.720 and elderly, even Holocaust survivals. Hamas terrorists bound, burned, and executed children.

00:03:14.880 They are savages. Hamas is ISIS. And just as the forces of civilization united to defeat ISIS, 1.00

00:03:24.480 the forces of civilization must support Israel in defeating Hamas. I want to thank President

00:03:30.520 Biden for his unequivocal support. I want to thank leaders across the world who are standing with

00:03:36.120 Israel today. I want to thank the people and Congress of the United States of America.

00:03:40.640 In fighting Hamas, Israel is not only fighting for its own people. It is fighting for every country

00:03:47.940 that stands against barbarism. Israel will win this war. And when Israel wins, the entire civilized world 0.95

00:03:56.020 wins. Prime Minister Netanyahu pledged to eliminate Hamas. And while Netanyahu took that powerful stance

00:04:05.840 back home in America, a retired Navy rear admiral and current National Security Council spokesman,

00:04:12.680 John Kirby went on live television to cry.

00:04:17.320 I, uh,

00:04:19.080 I,

00:04:22.720 I,

00:04:23.720 I'm sorry. It's, it's very, excuse me,

00:04:28.760 very difficult to look at these images, Jake. Uh, it's, it, and the, the, the human cost. And these

00:04:35.640 are human beings. They're family members, they're friends, they're loved ones, cousins, brothers,

00:04:40.040 sisters. Yeah, it's difficult. And I apologize.

00:04:44.200 I'm not sure that is the best image for any representative of the National Security Council

00:04:49.360 to portray in the war against radical Islamist terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah.

00:04:55.500 The Democrats talk tough when it's convenient for them, but seldom follow through. It's worse than

00:05:01.360 that when it comes to Israel. Back in 2021, with the Marxist Dems in control of Congress,

00:05:07.140 the Marxist Dems blocked funding for a Republican bill that committed $73 million of funding

00:05:13.340 for Israel's Iron Dome system and $177 million for Israel's shot range ballistic missile system.

00:05:21.760 And just the other day, National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan held a press conference

00:05:26.820 where he laid out how Iran was involved in making this terrorist attack possible.

00:05:33.600 Sullivan was asked if the United States will commit to refreezing that $6 billion the Biden

00:05:39.880 regime released to Iran.

00:05:42.120 We have not yet had a dollar of that $6 billion spent, and I will leave it at that.

00:05:49.180 But will you refreeze it based on this activity that you've just laid out, all of the ways

00:05:54.420 that they are complicit in this? The administration said that if we see them going in the wrong

00:05:59.160 direction, that we would stop that down. I understand the position that you guys have,

00:06:04.060 that not a dollar of this has been spent. But will you prevent it from getting into their

00:06:08.100 hands to allow them to, you know, do what they do that you just laid out?

00:06:13.540 Let me just reiterate what I said, because it's unequivocal. Not a dollar of that money

00:06:18.380 has been spent, and I will leave it at that.

00:06:21.080 Joining us now to take up the war in Israel and much more is Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:06:26.080 Doug is the CEO of Our Country, Our Choice, and you can check them out at OurCountryOurChoice.com.

00:06:34.220 Colonel, just want to say great to have you back with us here on The Great America Show.

00:06:37.620 Let's get to what is on everyone's mind, and that is the Hamas attacks against Israel,

00:06:43.340 and what is obviously the beginning of retaliation on the part of the Israeli Defense Force.

00:06:49.880 Well, the Israelis have now assembled a force on the ground of 470,000 troops.

00:06:57.140 That's a larger force than the regular army of the United States right now.

00:07:01.420 And they're obviously focused on Gaza, and a large portion of that force will 0.97

00:07:08.060 ultimately conduct operations there, but they're also focused on the northern border

00:07:13.320 with Lebanon and Syria in the event that someone there might decide to try and take advantage of

00:07:20.660 what's happened with Hamas.

00:07:21.700 So I think the Israelis have done what they can do right now, and they're organizing themselves effectively.

00:07:28.980 We should be concerned that the Israelis execute this mission to their satisfaction, 0.77

00:07:36.340 but at the same time preventing this event from becoming a wider war.

00:07:41.960 And that danger is very real right now.

00:07:44.900 We're already overstretched in Ukraine.

00:07:48.740 We don't have the ammunition, the missiles, the rockets, and so forth to supply anybody else at this stage.

00:07:58.380 We're spending ourselves into oblivion in Ukraine. 0.99

00:08:01.900 So we've got to be very careful what we do right now in connection with what's happened in Israel.

00:08:07.340 And I know the Israelis are angry, but this is a time for reason, not emotion. 0.51

00:08:12.980 And the most important thing is to contain this and prevent it from spreading.

00:08:18.020 Colonel, you and I agree about so much, but I have to disagree with you on this point.

00:08:26.520 I believe that Prime Minister Netanyahu is exactly right when he says he wants to level Gaza. 0.96

00:08:35.460 And destroy Hamas. 0.55

00:08:39.500 I can't even imagine if these were American citizens who were slaughtered as Hamas slaughtered the Israelis in their homes 0.63

00:08:49.020 and on the streets at a music festival, you name it, beheaded babies and IDF soldiers.

00:08:57.500 I have to say, I can still feel the burning in my stomach when I think of what happened on September 11th.

00:09:08.780 That'll I'll never forget.

00:09:10.300 We lost friends.

00:09:11.360 We lost people we knew in that moment.

00:09:14.060 To see this outrage, I don't think that Israel should be ever asked by any one of us to tolerate having on its border a Gaza Strip filled with 2 million people,

00:09:28.420 most of whom want to destroy every single person in Israel.

00:09:33.000 Your thoughts?

00:09:34.000 Well, you've got to expand that.

00:09:37.440 And if you're going to condemn all 2 million people inside the Gaza Strip, which is about 140 square miles,

00:09:44.980 you might as well lump them in with several hundred million Arabs, Turks, Iranians and others.

00:09:52.920 The problem here is as follows.

00:09:55.660 Wait, wait.

00:09:56.480 How much?

00:09:57.080 Why should I lump them in?

00:09:58.320 I don't understand.

00:09:59.040 Because because as Sharon said a long time ago, when I think it was Ayatollah Khomeini said that at some point,

00:10:08.360 Israel will be wiped off the map or vanished from the map. 0.89

00:10:11.820 He said, well, you know, that's what everybody in the region thinks.

00:10:16.180 And I think we just have to keep in mind that Israel is surrounded universally by people that would like to see Israel go away.

00:10:25.340 There's no question about that.

00:10:27.020 So, you know, the question is, what do you do about the 2 million in Gaza?

00:10:32.440 All 2 million are not part of Hamas.

00:10:34.980 All 2 million may not even like Hamas, although all 2 million undoubtedly dislike the Israelis.

00:10:41.100 As I said, the millions of people that surround the country hate Israel.

00:10:45.760 Even the Arabs who live inside Israel hate Israel.

00:10:49.840 When I was last over there, I was really quite struck by it.

00:10:53.440 I had several conversations with Arabs who were living in Israel, enjoying a higher standard of living, by the way, in Israel than they would in any Arab country.

00:11:02.200 Enjoying better health care, better security than they would in any Arab country.

00:11:07.120 And yet all they could talk about was, who do you think we can find that will help us destroy Israel? 0.52

00:11:12.620 I mean, this is absurd on the face of it, but it's a reality.

00:11:18.580 It is a reality.

00:11:19.120 The Israelis know that.

00:11:19.940 But it's a reality.

00:11:20.420 The Israelis know that.

00:11:21.820 I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:11:23.220 No, the Israelis know this.

00:11:25.180 And they also know that not everybody in Gaza is part of this.

00:11:28.300 I've visited Gaza.

00:11:29.740 I've visited the Israeli fortifications and lines around it.

00:11:34.040 I was admittedly shocked, as I'm sure the Israelis were, that the Hamas fighters breached Israeli security as easily and as rapidly as they did.

00:11:45.880 Because I can tell you from having been there, the Israelis had created a very tight network of early warning and control all the way around Gaza. 0.97

00:11:54.980 So this is another one of those events where the enemy managed to do something that no one expected and no one anticipated.

00:12:02.560 The Hamas fighters managed to coordinate, organize, plan, and execute all without tipping their hand. 0.85

00:12:10.680 And normally, you know, the Arabs are very talkative.

00:12:14.060 They're very talkative in every single conceivable way, which makes security for them almost an impossibility.

00:12:20.880 Nothing remains a secret.

00:12:22.000 So for this to have happened means that...

00:12:24.680 Well, don't tell that to Osama bin Laden or his descendants. 0.65

00:12:29.580 You kept the global intelligence agencies at bay for a decade.

00:12:38.000 Well, the point is that the Israelis have been pretty astute and expert at dealing with this.

00:12:47.240 And they were fooled.

00:12:48.900 And the behavior of the Hamas fighters was not anything the Israelis didn't expect. 0.67

00:12:54.580 They've dealt with this before.

00:12:56.080 If we go back to previous wars, whenever Israelis, men and women, fell into the hands of their opponents, terrible things happened.

00:13:04.860 And this was very much...

00:13:06.320 They behaved very much like ISIS, Lou, which was pretty reprehensible. 0.86

00:13:10.760 But you've got to also understand that the Turks and the Iranians are among those who have helped and advised and assisted the various non-state actors like Hamas in the region.

00:13:24.880 And they are equally opposed and hostile to Israel.

00:13:29.560 And the challenge right now is that this thing not get out of control and become a regional war that could then conceivably even drag in the Russians.

00:13:39.220 And obviously, the Chinese in the background will support the Russians and the Iranians. 0.64

00:13:43.280 So we need diplomacy on the part of Washington.

00:13:47.180 They need to get involved and prevent this.

00:13:49.280 And I don't see any evidence that anybody's doing it.

00:13:51.700 I don't see any evidence that anyone could do it in this administration.

00:13:55.860 Antony Blinken had to delete his first tweets calling for restraint, for God's sake.

00:14:02.180 Biden didn't speak to this issue for over two days.

00:14:05.980 This is not a Jake Sullivan is missing in action.

00:14:09.380 And perhaps that's all just to the good, because they are the same people who brought you the Ukraine, the Ukrainian invasion by Russia. 0.91

00:14:18.380 They did nothing to stop it, to forestall it and to negotiate a way around it.

00:14:25.340 When you say diplomacy, who are we waiting for?

00:14:27.920 Because there's no one in this administration who has the standing, the intelligence, the talent or the will to to stand up and and to take diplomatic initiatives.

00:14:39.380 Well, the more immediate problem, for example, is that the president of Egypt, who just 24 hours ago stated that Egypt would remain neutral and would not involve itself,

00:14:52.880 has now announced that he's preparing to send a convoy with humanitarian aid into Gaza through the entry point at Rafah.

00:15:01.780 And that was recently bombed by the Israelis. 0.98

00:15:04.960 But the problem is, you know, the Israelis have cut off the electricity and water.

00:15:10.200 They want to make life miserable inside Gaza with the hope of identifying Hamas or getting the people to surrender Hamas. 0.86

00:15:17.960 Well, that's going to be a very difficult task now, because the Egyptians, they are also under great pressure from within their own country and in the region to provide humanitarian assistance to the Gaza population.

00:15:30.820 So the Israelis now have to contend with the question of do we let them in? 1.00

00:15:35.900 If we let them in, how much do we let them in?

00:15:39.000 How far can they go if we don't let them in? 0.99

00:15:41.420 Do we end up in a shooting match with Egypt? 0.98

00:15:44.100 The last thing Israel needs is an active front with Egypt. 0.90

00:15:48.260 And on top of that, you have President Erdogan, who is now saying he's going to talk to the U.N.

00:15:54.820 General Secretary as well as to President Putin about next steps.

00:15:59.500 He's already said that he's offended by the fact that we shot down one of their drones over Syria, and he will not tolerate the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza.

00:16:10.960 So you've got various actors who, for various reasons, are exploiting this.

00:16:17.520 But this whole thing could blow up very suddenly into something we don't want, just as we do not want a direct confrontation with Russia in Ukraine.

00:16:25.340 We don't want a confrontation with Iran and Turkey or any other major actor in the region.

00:16:31.020 So that's my point on diplomacy.

00:16:32.660 You've got to get people out there to defuse these things and, at the same time, ensure that the Israelis can execute this operation and clean out Hamas. 0.92

00:16:45.440 It's not going to be easy, and they know that.

00:16:47.860 But we want them to be able to do it.

00:16:50.400 If this war widens, if Hezbollah is suddenly introduced into the equation, which would inevitably bring in Iran, if the Syrians become enraged over this and the Turks decide that they want to cast their lot, we've lost control. 0.61

00:17:06.960 And this will become a war that will grow and grow and consume everyone.

00:17:11.560 I want to be clear.

00:17:13.580 I do not want war with anyone.

00:17:15.340 I do not want our troops engaged in any war, no matter what.

00:17:20.400 I want a standoff solution militarily if there is to be a military solution and involvement.

00:17:27.480 But I am very suspicious about the talent and the abilities of the general officers of the United States military right now.

00:17:35.520 I know the civilian leadership is absolutely bonkers.

00:17:39.580 And I literally would break into a sweat at the thought that our commander-in-chief would be Joe Biden responding to the threats that you just talked about.

00:17:49.320 We're talking with Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:17:52.580 Stay with us.

00:17:53.280 We're coming right back.

00:18:00.140 We're back now.

00:18:01.360 We're talking with Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:18:03.220 We're talking about the United Nations and its concerns about what is happening in Israel, the Gaza Strip, the Middle East broadly.

00:18:10.920 The United Nations actually admonishing the Israeli government to remember that under international law, no retaliation against Hamas is acceptable and is, in fact, in breach of international law.

00:18:29.560 Your reaction to that statement from the United Nations, Doug?

00:18:34.360 Well, I think there's a reason why we ignore the U.N. most of the time.

00:18:38.360 And you just outlined it.

00:18:40.800 Obviously, the Israelis have every right to respond. 1.00

00:18:44.740 And I'm sure they will.

00:18:46.160 As I said, they've amassed 470,000 troops.

00:18:49.460 They have excellent technology, excellent weapon systems.

00:18:52.720 The only thing they may not have enough of, but we don't know as yet, is ammunition, because they shipped a huge quantity of their artillery ammunition to Ukraine at our insistence.

00:19:04.340 And they're going to need a lot of artillery ammunition.

00:19:07.420 But the bottom line is, you know, they're going to they're going to go after Hamas. 0.66

00:19:11.600 And they absolutely should, just as we went after ISIS. 0.99

00:19:15.640 And we should all support that.

00:19:17.440 The key is to help the Israelis do this without inviting wider war and and essentially insulating Israel from that particular challenge.

00:19:28.820 I hope we can.

00:19:30.400 I don't know what the administration is doing.

00:19:32.820 I don't know what their policy stance is on any of this.

00:19:36.080 Like you, I haven't heard anything definitive.

00:19:38.480 But we've got to be very careful about how bellicose some people sound.

00:19:43.620 I was listening to former Secretary of State Pompeo, whose solution is to attack Iran.

00:19:50.720 Well, that could lead to the wholesale destruction of Israel. 0.58

00:19:54.320 And that's certainly not in our interest.

00:19:56.500 It is not in Israel's interest. 0.94

00:19:58.500 There's got to be a different way to do this.

00:20:01.220 And that's just what we don't need.

00:20:03.400 I was shocked to hear Huckabee, who is supposedly a minister, basically say that we are just as involved as as Israel, that this is an attack on us.

00:20:16.520 Well, no, it's not an attack on us.

00:20:18.320 We've got attacks on the southern border and attacks inside our country right now that are as bad, if not worse, as than what you've seen with Hamas and in greater numbers. 0.84

00:20:28.960 But we don't report it.

00:20:30.160 We don't discuss it because this administration doesn't want to protect the country.

00:20:34.280 We got to get straight.

00:20:36.900 Let me report it right now, what what Colonel McGregor is saying.

00:20:42.500 One hundred thousand overdose deaths a year as a result of the fentanyl that crosses that Mexican border.

00:20:50.080 It is the controlled by the Mexican drug cartels right now, north and south and over one hundred thousand just in the last three years under the Biden administration and previously under Trump as well.

00:21:02.440 We're looking at nearly a half a million deaths of American citizens at the hands of the Chinese and the Mexican government because it defers to the cartels. 0.92

00:21:12.920 Now, folks, as he's talking about, as Doug is talking about getting our heads right, take a look at that and compare those casualty numbers to World War One, World War Two.

00:21:24.580 The Civil War is the only war that would exceed those numbers in our country's history.

00:21:31.600 And people are simply blithely going on accepting collateral damage, Doug.

00:21:37.660 That's that's 100 percent correct.

00:21:39.980 You could not be more right.

00:21:41.540 And we for some reason, the American people don't they seem to be almost anesthetized.

00:21:49.920 I'm surprised that, you know, hundreds of thousands of Americans are not in the street demanding action.

00:21:55.640 I mean, I'm I continually call for the use of the U.S.

00:22:01.040 Army on the Mexican border.

00:22:03.180 The army was there from 1846 to 1948.

00:22:06.860 It controlled the border and policed it.

00:22:09.400 It was critical to our national security.

00:22:12.280 It's critical today to our national security.

00:22:14.760 When you mentioned, well, let's put the army there.

00:22:17.960 People look at you and they don't even seem to understand why I haven't figured this out.

00:22:22.660 Lou, is it because we're such a large country that not enough of us are personally touched by this tragedy on the border?

00:22:31.100 Yeah, I think the answer to that is really complicated.

00:22:33.660 But I think foremost amongst the reasons would be one, not until I think we have to credit Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, with this.

00:22:45.220 When he started transporting illegals up to New York City, he decided to start showing people what a sanctuary city really was.

00:22:54.780 The mayor of Eric Adams has has gotten religion.

00:22:58.580 He now wants to he's out begging people, whether it's Colombia, whether it's Mexico, all across Central America, begging them not to send any more illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:23:11.780 That's the mayor.

00:23:12.980 Now, you know, it's just it's just the way the national corporate media is reporting.

00:23:19.800 It's in their interest because their corporate owners and the oligarchs that make up media are in line and in tune with Wall Street and all of corporate America, which they want.

00:23:32.200 Obviously, those people in here for two reasons, one for cheap labor, two for more votes and they'll lie, cheat and steal. 0.99

00:23:40.740 And they've done just that for three for 30 years, 33 decades on the border.

00:23:46.680 So it's that's where we are now. And something is about something is about to break because it can no longer be tolerated.

00:23:54.480 I think you're right. Well, you know, it's very clear that Netanyahu is not going to be there much longer.

00:24:02.360 He is going to be held personal response, personally responsible for this breach of security with Gaza.

00:24:09.500 That's inevitable. He will be gone.

00:24:11.760 And he deserves to be removed for that because he's been very bellicose.

00:24:16.780 He's very strident in his rhetoric.

00:24:19.500 And the Israeli armed forces were not where they were supposed to be.

00:24:23.120 The Mossad did not do its job properly.

00:24:25.740 The focus was obviously somewhere else.

00:24:28.000 Some people say it was internal. I don't know.

00:24:30.660 But he's going to be held responsible.

00:24:32.280 The question is, we have a much worse situation in the strategic sense, confronting us, as you've pointed out, as a result of the open borders policy.

00:24:44.700 Who is going to stand up and demand that the people in Washington be held accountable for this?

00:24:50.780 That's what I keep asking.

00:24:52.100 You know, when we talk about accountability, this administration hasn't been held accountable for anything because it controls the deep state.

00:25:02.060 The Marxist Dems who control this administration won't permit it.

00:25:05.840 There's been a cover up since the well, actually, before even the Obama administration.

00:25:12.100 But continuing into this, we're looking at a collaboration between the deep state, the Marxist Dems and the Marxist Socialists of Europe and the CCP.

00:25:24.960 Right now, those entities and organizations and nation states are more in alignment than the two political parties of the United States are with one another, the Democrats and the Republicans.

00:25:36.300 It is a it's a conflict that is before us.

00:25:41.380 It plays out every day. 0.98

00:25:43.240 And the Republicans, bless the poor, the poor, good hearted fools, don't understand that they're in a war, that they're losing and haven't even yet fought. 0.97

00:25:52.520 Yeah, I'm not sure really that many of these so-called Republicans are really in the war at all. 0.97

00:25:58.520 I have a feeling that they've sort of merged with the Uniparty.

00:26:01.860 I think that's another subject.

00:26:03.660 But the bottom line is in Europe, things are going to change.

00:26:08.560 The Germans will throw out their current government.

00:26:10.860 I think the French will do the same thing.

00:26:13.220 I think we're going to see lots of governments turn over in Europe.

00:26:16.520 My concern is, what do we do here?

00:26:19.360 Everybody talks about the election.

00:26:20.980 But as you've pointed out, how do we how do we guarantee the integrity of our electoral process?

00:26:28.000 How do we ensure the people that vote are the ones that should vote?

00:26:31.900 I am appalled when I listen to governors talk about online voting.

00:26:38.040 Why would you want that?

00:26:39.140 Why would you absolve the individual citizen of making the effort to go to the poll to identify himself as an American citizen and a legal resident and cast his vote?

00:26:50.040 Why are we demeaning voting as something that you just do when you feel like it online?

00:26:56.560 It's incomprehensible to me.

00:26:57.920 Well, I think the governors you're talking about are likely, you know, Democrats.

00:27:05.740 They're mayors of big cities that are run by Democrats.

00:27:09.980 They have a low information electorate and constituency.

00:27:14.140 They think they can get away with it.

00:27:16.500 They insult the people they are supposed to represent every day by by doing exactly what you've described.

00:27:23.260 There is no accountability because no one to hold them accountable, not the mayor, not the media, not their low information data and information constituents.

00:27:36.100 They live and depend on upon the ignorance of the people they were elected to serve. 0.65

00:27:44.280 It's atrocious, but it's the system and the state of our country right now across far too much of it.

00:27:51.440 But we've got two wars going now.

00:27:53.760 What about Ukraine?

00:27:54.760 We'll take that up with Colonel Doug McGregor in just a moment.

00:27:59.120 We'll be right back.

00:28:05.800 We're talking with Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:28:07.900 Thanks for staying with us.

00:28:09.640 And, Colonel, we were talking about two wars and Ukraine.

00:28:13.700 What is the situation in your judgment in Ukraine?

00:28:17.380 And what does the additional conflict in the Middle East add to our geopolitical concerns?

00:28:25.520 Well, the first geopolitical concern that Americans should have at this point is that we're having trouble recruiting for the armed forces.

00:28:32.880 The United States Army is far below the strength that is required.

00:28:38.100 The same is true for the Marines.

00:28:40.180 The same is true for the Navy.

00:28:41.520 And in addition to that, we're unable to recruit qualified people.

00:28:46.520 We've driven large numbers of qualified young soldiers and Marines out of the service over this vax nonsense and, you know, the current social engineering programs, which are offensive and repugnant and divisive. 1.00

00:29:00.020 So our armed forces are in no shape to do anything.

00:29:04.120 And I think the American people need to know that you've been talking about societal cohesion, which is effectively what we're dealing with with this widespread criminality.

00:29:14.040 Well, the same thing is true in the armed forces.

00:29:16.820 We're our country is not strong and our country is not in a position to take on a major opponent.

00:29:22.220 Now, when you look at Ukraine, we've now pretty much exhausted much of our war stocks by shipping everything over to this Ukrainian army.

00:29:30.640 And remember, the Ukrainian army, like the Ukrainian state, is helplessly corrupt. 0.73

00:29:35.760 Ukrainian company and battalion commanders are pocketing the cash that is supposed to go to their soldiers in payment because they never report anyone killed.

00:29:46.760 Because if you report a soldier killed, he doesn't get paid anymore.

00:29:49.760 So the Ukrainians have lost between 450,000 and 500,000 men dead.

00:29:56.200 And those people, in many cases, are still being carried on the army's rolls.

00:30:00.220 And that's enriching the battalion commanders and company commanders.

00:30:03.680 People that are wounded seriously on the battlefield in Ukraine and the Ukrainian army can't even get evacuated.

00:30:10.520 If they want to be evacuated to a real hospital to be treated, they have to bribe the medical authorities and the ambulance drivers to take them there.

00:30:18.720 Ukraine is finished. 0.60

00:30:21.340 The war is done.

00:30:23.360 The only thing that can happen now is that things can get very much worse because our refusal to talk to the Russians, our refusal to acknowledge their legitimate security interest in Ukraine, just as we have legitimate security interest in Mexico, means that the Russians will have to advance. 0.79

00:30:40.660 They'll have to move further west.

00:30:41.960 And they will.

00:30:42.960 And if they do, they could end up at the Polish border because there is nothing to stop them. 0.94

00:30:48.720 And the Europeans are turning away from this.

00:30:51.040 The Poles have turned away from the notion of going to war in Ukraine against Russia.

00:30:55.440 They realize it's pointless and it's suicidal.

00:30:58.720 We are going to lose this battle on a gargantuan scale unless we belly up to the table, admit the truth, the war is lost, the war is done, and try to negotiate some sort of stable peace that excludes the notion that whatever remains of Ukraine will ever become part of NATO.

00:31:19.200 Remember that when Ukraine was neutral, I was stationed at the, I worked at Supreme Headquarters of Light Powers Europe.

00:31:25.740 And everyone at the time in the 1990s said the most important mission that Ukraine has is to keep the Russians 500 miles to the east.

00:31:35.660 And the way you do that is by being neutral.

00:31:38.880 That's, that was always the solution.

00:31:41.880 That's going to have to be the solution now, or you will end up with hundreds of thousands of Russian troops on the Polish border, the Romanian border, the Moldovan border.

00:31:51.440 The Russians don't want that, and neither do we.

00:31:53.900 So that has to end.

00:31:56.020 There is no other way.

00:31:58.120 And the sooner it ends, the better, because the longer that drags on and the longer that we fail to contain, if we do not contain this conflict between Israel and Hamas and prevent other bad actors from involving themselves, then we could see a very large regional war become a global conflict. 0.53

00:32:17.560 That's not what we need.

00:32:20.180 It's not what we need, but it is certainly what we have.

00:32:23.900 And armies go to war with the armies they have, not the ones they necessarily want or need.

00:32:32.280 We would be going to war with a commander-in-chief and civilian leadership over our military that is a nightmare.

00:32:39.900 I can't even imagine what the command structure would really be in this situation.

00:32:45.680 Can you?

00:32:46.340 Well, I think the truth is this.

00:32:50.280 We haven't been in this kind of position, certainly since the late 30s, when the Depression obviously reduced the Army and the armed forces in general to a perilously low state of readiness.

00:33:04.800 Right now, we've got more problems because we have enormous morale problems, discipline problems.

00:33:09.460 We're not in shape to do anything.

00:33:11.900 And the administration celebrates this.

00:33:15.200 They think this is a wonderful achievement, having rendered the armed forces incapable of fighting.

00:33:21.040 They brag about it.

00:33:22.340 They think this is diversity, inclusion, and equity. 0.99

00:33:26.020 And what you get out of that is die, which means death.

00:33:29.500 So we're in terrible shape there.

00:33:31.540 I can't imagine anything being worse.

00:33:33.460 But then again, I thought things were bad a few years ago, and they've only gotten worse.

00:33:39.300 Remember, here's something that you can keep in mind.

00:33:42.900 Fear not.

00:33:43.880 We have 43 four-star generals.

00:33:47.340 Imagine that.

00:33:48.140 43 four-star generals for a force of 1.16 million people.

00:33:54.080 And during World War II, when we had 12.2 million men under arms, we had only seven four-stars.

00:34:03.340 Gosh, how could we have possibly gotten anything right in World War II without all those extra four-stars?

00:34:09.840 Well, we have a military that I'm sorry to say, and I want to say straight up, I appreciate the service of everyone in the United States military.

00:34:19.700 But right now, we have a corrupt military, and we have a military that is far from being a fighting force.

00:34:29.020 And we can take this up another time.

00:34:32.460 But I see no way out of this without a major reform of the military and a return to the draft, 0.99

00:34:39.140 where there is great equity in every foreign policy decision the United States government makes,

00:34:47.540 because they know that the young men and women of every person, including from the president on down,

00:34:55.020 will possibly be engaged in any conflict that ensues.

00:34:59.240 Colonel, I want to ask you about our country, our choice.

00:35:03.300 You're the new CEO of the organization.

00:35:05.540 Tell us about it, would you?

00:35:07.700 Yeah, sure.

00:35:08.220 Our country, our choice was founded by a group of people who were fed up and disgusted with the lack of progress in Washington

00:35:16.980 and the direction of anything that made sense.

00:35:19.500 Finally concluded that there wasn't enough difference between Democrats and Republicans to result in anything positive happening.

00:35:26.740 So they decided we want to unite people across party lines.

00:35:32.180 We know there are many, many good people of goodwill in the Democratic Party and also in the Republican Party.

00:35:39.300 We want to unite them, and we want to unite them around some real critical issues.

00:35:43.320 Number one is end these endless wars overseas.

00:35:47.780 Stop the commitments to small wars that have the potential to be large wars and destroy us.

00:35:55.460 Stop the waste of funds and American blood and treasure all over the world.

00:36:00.260 So that was number one.

00:36:01.340 Number two, stop the destruction of the rule of law.

00:36:06.240 Go after the criminality.

00:36:08.320 Restore the rule of law.

00:36:10.140 Deal harshly with the criminals.

00:36:12.620 Close the border.

00:36:14.760 Get control of the border.

00:36:16.440 And then find out who these people are inside the United States that have come here illegally and expelled them.

00:36:21.920 And finally, stop the sexualization of our children.

00:36:26.060 We have to protect our children.

00:36:28.520 And this government is doing everything in its power to advance an agenda that is nothing short of degenerate.

00:36:35.900 And we don't want our children being talked into self-mutilating activities and gender-transforming surgeries at the age of six or seven. 0.99

00:36:46.000 Those kinds of things are criminal.

00:36:48.200 People that do it should be in jail.

00:36:49.920 Those are the things that we are really united around, and those are the things that we want to focus on at change.

00:36:57.260 Well, those sound like the issues, the great issues of our time.

00:37:02.260 And our choice has made a great decision and made a great choice in their CEO and Colonel Doug McGregor.

00:37:10.960 And we made a pretty doggone good choice, I think, on our guest for today.

00:37:14.680 Doug, we really enjoy talking with you always, and I hope you'll come back soon.

00:37:20.860 And, you know, God save America.

00:37:24.060 Hey, thank you, Lou, and look forward to seeing more of you soon.

00:37:27.580 Thanks, everybody, for being here today.

00:37:29.600 Our guest tomorrow on The Great America Show will be Dr. Eli David on the Iranian Hamas surprise attacks on Israel,

00:37:36.780 the conflict's likely influence on the region.

00:37:40.540 Please join us for that tomorrow, and join us each and every day.

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00:37:53.280 Thank you, everybody.

00:37:54.420 God bless you, and may God bless and save America.

00:37:58.060 God bless you, and may God bless you.

The Great America Show - October 12, 2023

ISRAEL CRUSH HAMAS, BUT LIMIT WAR

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