In this episode of The Great America Show with Lou Dobbs and Joe Rogan, we are joined by the Great Mike Benz. Mike is a cybersecurity expert who makes his rounds, and makes himself available for the American people to know what's going on, specifically in the cybersecurity world, but in a broader aspect as well.
00:03:30.000We are an empire built on secrets that have to be kept from the American people because if the American people find out, then our foreign adversaries or foreign governments find out.
00:03:41.000And so in order to maintain the empire that we have acquired through subterfuge and covert action, we need to not just keep our enemies and neutrals disinformed or uninformed,
00:03:57.000we need to keep the American people as well so that they don't talk about it or it's not reported in our press because everybody else in the world reads our press.
00:04:05.000And so this started in 1948 when World War II ended and we were setting up this new world order, the rules-based liberal international order with the UN, with NATO, with the World Bank, with the IMF, the international finance system.
00:04:22.000And that also barred, under the UN Declaration on Human Rights, it barred military accession of territory.
00:04:34.000So everything had to move towards elections and everything had to move towards hearts and minds work to influence the millions of people who live in each country so that you can take it over in the form of political vassalage rather than military control.
00:04:47.000So that's why the CIA was set up under the 1947 act. It's a State Department function. There was a lot of talk at the time in the State Department about how to structure this CIA function.
00:04:59.000And the CIA was doing all this sort of dirty work in terms of political meddling and funding institutions, funding charities, funding unions, funding media organizations.
00:05:10.000They got in a lot of trouble in the 60s and 70s. USAID was created in 61. So while CIA was a plausible deniability layer for the State Department, USAID was a plausible deniability layer for the CIA.
00:05:23.000And so we have, and all of these touch every institution in society. And it gets to a point where you really can't point saying, you know, I wonder how many governments have been overthrown by the CIA, you know, to preserve the tuna, you know.
00:05:38.000And lo and behold, even things like fishing and whatnot play into whether or not a country like Norway joins the EU or something.
00:06:00.000And so every industry has money associated with it. And that money, you know, the winners of the markets are the people who have governments and intelligence agencies on their side, which is why every major company touches the government.
00:06:15.000Well, I just, it's so unimaginable that it's come to this point. I mean, some of the craziest things being funded by these people, but the outrage is what's so alarming to me.
00:06:26.000You know, you see these, and it's mostly Democrats who are just absolutely going berserk. Like they are, I mean, gung ho, hate Elon Musk, want the man dead.
00:06:38.000I don't know if you saw recently, there was a poll out justifying that President Trump could be assassinated. It's fine, that it's justifiable. If it happens, it happens.
00:06:47.000Now, it's no joke, Mike, because we still don't know who took a shot at President Trump. We know what they tell us, that it was this guy, Matthew Cooks.
00:06:55.000They cremate this guy's body that's unimaginable like I've ever seen before. But we don't know the true story about what happened behind this man.
00:07:02.000We still haven't heard anything. We have the guy who's going behind the fence at Trump's golf course, who was apparently trying to buy rocket launchers from Ukraine to blow up his plane or blow up his motorcade.
00:07:13.000And yet we have these Democrats who are, you know, gung ho that USAID is great and that we should continue to keep giving and giving and giving.
00:07:21.000Are you as surprised as I am that they've taken their masks off? It's not just USAID, Mike. It's them wanting to bring back in MS-13 members who were deported.
00:07:31.000Are you as surprised as I am that they've gone this far left, that they've committed?
00:07:36.000And Lou Dobbs used to say, once you cross the penumbra, you can't come back. Are you as surprised as I am that they've went this far to take the mask off?
00:07:45.000I think it's to be expected. This is existential for them. And frankly, I actually don't think most Democrats really care or even know about USAID and what it does.
00:07:59.000What you have is an astroturfed protest movement, which is the same thing the blob does everywhere.
00:08:05.000I mean, it's literally part of a stock standard playbook for how to organize a color revolution, how to bring down a democratically elected government, a popular democratically elected government.
00:08:15.000And you'll notice that one of the things that Chuck Schumer and Senator Chris Murphy talk about is the need to drive down Trump's approval ratings.
00:08:25.000You know, when you see messaging like that, that it's not about building up support for themselves.
00:08:31.000They need to find a way to make the president unpopular.
00:08:35.000You have to understand this is part of a destabilization effort that is stock standard.
00:08:40.000And that's why you see these highly astroturfed protests.
00:08:43.000You know, you go to these protests with a mic and a camera and you ask these people what they're protesting for.
00:08:52.000Right. The stuff is sponsored. Everyone's getting reimbursed for what they do.
00:08:56.000You know, I covered one case of this guy, Carlos Alvarez, who claimed credit for the idea of these Tesla takedown protests.
00:09:03.000And he said at his, you know, at one of the rallies that he needs to be able to say that he bankrupted Tesla or that he helped bankrupt Tesla in order to get his next job.
00:09:18.000In order to get your next job, you need to have on your resume that you bankrupted Tesla.
00:09:23.000That means you're being hired because of that.
00:09:27.000That means that someone is paying you, sponsoring you.
00:09:30.000And, you know, you trace the networks and the same guy co-founded one of the censorship projects with Nina Jankovic, the DHS disinformation governance czar,
00:09:40.000who herself was funded by USAID through the Center for Information Resilience when she had to register as a British agent after her time at DHS as part of this British influence operation.
00:09:50.000Her name was in the integrity initiative files, which is another British intelligence busted operation from 2015 to 2019.
00:09:58.000She had worked for NDI, the National Democratic Institute, which is the DNC branch of the CIA.
00:10:07.000What I'm trying to say is this is all the same foreign policy establishment who's astroturfing domestic disturbances in order to try to topple the government,
00:10:14.000which is their paid vocation, their professional set of skills doing around the world on USAID dime.
00:10:20.000And a name that you always hear about, which up until maybe last year, you weren't allowed to say his name, George Soros.
00:10:26.000What role is he playing in this right now?
00:10:29.000And maybe not so much him, but his son, Alex Soros, who's married to Uma Abedin.
00:10:33.000The other thing, Mike, that's so surprising to me is that you hear the regurgitation of like 15 of the same names constantly.
00:10:39.000Jake Sullivan, Susan Rice, or, you know, it's like the same regurgitation of names, like there's not a few billion people living in the world.
00:10:47.000What role is Soros playing in, I mean, he's always destabilized countries, but right now, specifically, as it pertains to President Trump and Tesla,
00:10:55.000George Soros is the top donor drafter on the Democrat side.
00:11:01.000I always describe the structure of the blob as being the inside of it is the State Department, the Pentagon, the intelligence community,
00:11:08.000and then right in between is USAID. That's the government, the sort of guts, the center of the blob.
00:11:15.000Underneath that, you have the NGOs, and you have the civil society partners who are the spandrels of the State Department, the Pentagon, the CIA, and USAID.
00:11:26.000That, you know, sort of like tree roots tentacle out into the world, tens of thousands of them, hundreds of thousands of them.
00:11:34.000On top of the government side of the blob is the donor drafter class.
00:11:39.000And by donor drafter, I mean these are very high net worth individuals or multinational corporations or hedge funds that donate into the political campaigns and therefore get access to personnel to determine who is actually running CIA,
00:12:00.000who is actually running State, who is actually running Pentagon, who is actually running USAID.
00:12:04.000Because that's basically the deal that you make with donors is they pay you a lot of money, they get a say over how you staff the agencies and personnel is policy.
00:12:16.000So it's not really about what you run on, it's about who is actually at the agency doing what they do.
00:12:22.000And I call them donor drafters because you can think of it like a bike race.
00:12:27.000In a bike race, the best strategy is not to be out front the whole race where you are bearing the full force of the wind.
00:12:36.000The best strategy in a bike race is to be right behind the guy who's cutting the wind for you.
00:12:42.000And so what you have in this donor drafter class are people who co-invest with USAID, co-invest with the State Department in all their operations.
00:12:50.000They also pay for the political campaigns.
00:12:52.000And then their own personal interests draft off of the battering ram of what state and CIA and USAID and Pentagon do.
00:13:02.000So for example, ExxonMobil will make political contributions to a particular candidate.
00:13:07.000They will get a say over, for example, Rex Tillerson was the Secretary of State for Donald Trump.
00:13:12.000The State Department will then go in and fund NGOs.
00:13:16.000It will do diplomacy with foreign countries.
00:13:19.000It will open up the oil and gas lines.
00:14:33.000If that name sounds familiar, it's a parallel with the U.S. Agency for International Development.
00:14:37.000And, in fact, the Harvard Institute for International Development got half a billion dollars from the U.S. Agency for International Development
00:14:44.000to travel to Russia and to help them sell off all of these previously state-held assets by the Soviet Union
00:14:54.000in fire sale prices to Western investors in the Wall Street, London class.
00:15:01.000And because they were on the ground and doing these auctions through the USAID money, they held closed auctions
00:15:09.000where the only two outside investors who were allowed to actually purchase these newly privatized assets of the Soviet Union
00:15:18.000were the Harvard Institute for International Development, the Harvard Endowment, and George Soros' Quantum Fund.
00:15:26.000So they helped topple the Soviet Union. You can say that was a very good thing. The fact is they did.
00:15:36.000They got money from USAID to rip the country apart and sell off all its assets to foreigners.
00:15:44.000And in exchange for that, they got to make bank because they had private exclusive access to all of those assets.
00:15:54.000And you see the same thing everywhere.
00:15:56.000In Ukraine, George Soros is massively active in Ukraine.
00:16:00.000And what are they doing? They're selling off every aspect of Ukraine.
00:16:03.000It's oil, it's gas, it's minerals, it's agriculture to these Wall Street investment firms
00:16:09.000and to these large banks and multinational corporations.
00:17:38.000Right. Well, the UK side of this is really fascinating.
00:17:41.000And I wish that there was more investigative reporting on this piece, because I have long been fascinated with the UK role,
00:17:50.000which I think in many respects may actually be more dominant than the US role in Ukraine.
00:17:56.000You know, there's a famous saying about NATO.
00:17:58.000It was by Lord Ismay, who was the first Secretary General of NATO.
00:18:04.000It's actually on NATO's website right now if you go to their About History section.
00:18:09.000And this is a famous quote by him where he said,
00:18:11.000The purpose of NATO is to keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down.
00:18:17.000Now, if you think about that framing, that's basically calling NATO a British institution designed to get America to fight its wars, designed to keep Russia boxed out and contained and to stop Germany's rise.
00:18:39.000And there's always been this, you know, sort of industrial war with Germany since the end of World War II.
00:18:47.000And I'm very interested in the first part of that, because what you see, go back to Russiagate and how it started with Christopher Steele and the British intelligence agent.
00:18:59.000It's now come out in the Crossfire Hurricane documents that were just released this past week that when Christopher Steele was interviewed by the FBI, he said that he was doing this in addition to serving his client, Hillary Clinton.
00:19:13.000He was doing this because Trump was, quote, his main opponent, because his foreign policy would undermine British interests.
00:19:21.000It would undermine the US-UK special relationship and the British interests of that.
00:19:26.000So you have the origins of Russiagate being essentially a British intelligence operation to stop Trump from enacting a foreign policy vis-a-vis NATO.
00:19:50.000And then we were funding the reconquest of those territories in the East.
00:19:55.000And with Trump pledging neutrality on that, the British interests were massively threatened.
00:20:02.000After the Cold War, all of these British companies and banking interests and their portfolio companies made a massive play for Eurasia, which is the heart of this big new Brzezinski.
00:20:16.000It's where two-thirds of the world's critical minerals are and a huge portion of its oil and gas.
00:20:23.000And it looked like that was possible in the 1990s when we won the Cold War to effectively colonize Eurasia and install puppet presidents everywhere like we did with Boris Yeltsin in the 1996 election and before that.
00:20:37.000And so, all these British banks and British companies like Shell and British Petroleum, who figure very heavily in this, Shell signed a $10 billion deal with Naftagas, the largest state-owned gas company in Ukraine.
00:20:53.000In 2013, I believe, is when Shell signed that $10 billion, and then those investments effectively went to zero when the places that they had the mining rights over became occupied by the Russians in the Donbass, which is where most of the shale is as well as offshore in Crimea.
00:21:16.000In 2014, when Crimea became annexed and when the Donbass declared themselves breakaway states, suddenly, Naftagas could not exploit those regions.
00:21:29.000And so, the co-investors were all holding empty bags unless the US military went in there and reconquered those territories.
00:21:40.000And so, you have a British operation to get America to war.
00:21:44.000I mean, this is very similar to how World War I, the US involvement in World War I.
00:21:50.000And the fact is, is I believe that there is just an incredibly shocking degree of British manipulation, of US opinion about the war.
00:22:05.000Every single person in the blob, of any consequence, seems to come up through some sort of British influence node,
00:22:12.000whether they spend a, you know, a summer at the London School of Economics or Oxford,
00:22:18.000or they're in some, you know, a fellowship with Chatham House or one of the other NGOs or universities or think tanks of British origin.
00:22:28.000And, you know, we call this a special relationship, but it's especially toxic for the United States because, you know, we fought a war of independence against, you know, the British dominating US affairs.
00:22:43.000And I think something similar is playing out vis-a-vis Ukraine and Russia.
00:22:49.000So, I don't know, in particular, at the root of it, how much of it has already been sold off to the British.
00:22:54.000But I would not be surprised if something like that were to be reported.
00:23:03.000Going back to the broader, how this thing started, and that's a lot of things that people don't realize, is that it really did start in 2014.
00:23:10.000What people don't talk about, what you don't hear the mainstream media talking about, is how NATO has expanded since 1990, right?
00:23:18.000There was a deal made between Baker and Mikhail Gorbachev that it would not extend further east from Germany.
00:23:25.000Mike, time and time, and this is an unpopular opinion if you're talking to the left and the mainstream media.
00:23:32.000But time and time again, we've disobeyed, we've disobeyed, we've disobeyed, and we've continued to move further to the east,
00:23:39.000up until the point of about to be Ukraine, which would have been on the border of Russia.
00:23:44.000The border of Russia. How is Russia, now I'm not defending Vladimir Putin by any stretch of the imagination,
00:23:49.000but I'm saying looking at a broad base, what would you expect any other, if it wasn't Russia?
00:23:55.000Say it were Australia, where Russia is right now.
00:23:59.000What would you expect Australia to do, Mike?
00:24:01.000If you've told them for the last 30 years, 30 plus years, that we're not moving further east, but we've continued to lie.
00:24:08.000What do they expect next is coming when you've lied to them about expansion of territory?
00:24:25.000And when you fold the country into NATO, the conditions for joining NATO is that you privatize your markets, you adjust your rule of law, you form all this interconnectivity, and you effectively become absorbed into the Borg.
00:24:42.000And a lot of that means excising the influence of Russia, for example.
00:24:50.000This is why all these NATO countries since the late 1990s were former Soviet bloc countries.
00:25:14.000But all it takes is, if you can have a puppet president in there, and you can regime change it, and you can continue the work that was done in the 1990s under Yeltsin,
00:25:24.000that would make the U.S. and U.K. wealthy beyond anything ever conceived of by man.
00:25:53.000That was really the first time that Russia punched back, so to speak, by sort of backstopping the Donbass and Crimea secession.
00:26:01.000And now we're in this world where we're confronted with, are we still the unipolar power that can singularly do anything we want with no pushback from any other country?
00:26:15.000I think we've found out and been somewhat humbled in the past decade that that is no longer the case.
00:26:21.000And frankly, power corrupts absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
00:26:30.000I think when James Baker and, you know, everyone involved in the early 1990s, you know, pledges to Gorbachev and whatnot, I don't think that they...
00:26:44.000It was easy to make that statement because, you know, the unipolar moment had not yet fully made itself manifest.
00:28:13.000They hemmed and hawed and said, actually, well, while we've got this gigantic transatlantic military force set up, let's use it to be the battering ram of empire acquisition.
00:28:26.000And that's that's all it's been from, you know, from Iraq to Afghanistan to Libya to Yugoslavia.
00:28:38.000If other countries have power and agency, there's probably nothing more offensive and existential and consequential than a rival military threatening to kill you.
00:28:49.000Yeah. And we have we've unleashed this.
00:28:52.000And I think Trump is trying to redraw the alliance map.
00:28:55.000There's no reason that we can't be allies with a lot of our of our adversaries and restore trade relations and have prosperity for all.
00:29:06.000The only people who lose from that are the multinational corporations who have bet on the those, you know, those adversarial relations and relationships netting them resources or deals and the defense contractors who were a huge part of the lobbying force for the expansion of NATO.
00:29:25.000There's an incredible set of contemporaneous reporting that was dug up by Kenokoa the Great on X.
00:29:32.000Yeah, just goes through just and just real after real of, you know, how all the, you know, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Boeing and they were just lobbying, spending hundreds of millions of dollars on Congress to authorize, you know, and support NATO expansion.
00:29:47.000And, you know, that's what we're up against now.
00:29:50.000And we'll see if if we can pull off these.
00:29:52.000Think about how many corporations, the good corporations, too.
00:31:45.000I do believe that the scale of Chinese influence on our Congress, on our shadow cabinet right now,
00:31:57.000is still something that's not really made clear to the American public in the way that it needs to be.
00:32:07.000When you look at the China relationships with the First Family and the Biden administration,
00:32:12.000and Hunter Biden having the head of Chinese intelligence as a client and getting $10 million from these various consulting and brokering deals,
00:32:23.000selling off LNG ports to Chinese investors, and working closely with Chinese energy companies.
00:32:32.000You look at something like the Bush China Foundation, which I believe was Neil Bush.
00:32:38.000This was set up right as Trump had won the 2016 election.
00:32:43.000The Bush China Foundation is a parallel track diplomacy for high-level GOP officials to have dual track diplomacy with the CCP,
00:32:56.000and to further business entanglements with China, and it was set up explicitly to counter the elected president's hawkish position towards China.
00:33:10.000And, you know, this is because the GOP was the big business party for, that was its way of, you know, the Democrats had Hollywood, media, universities, unions,
00:33:22.000and basically the Republicans had the energy companies, the, you know, the defense contractors, and the Chamber of Commerce, the big business companies.
00:33:32.000And that was always sort of what kept parity between the, you know, the two sides.
00:33:37.000And Trump sort of ran over both when he beat both a Bush and a Clinton to become president in 2016.
00:33:43.000And so, you know, you see this on both sides of the aisle, this lobbying mechanism to keep the trade relations with China going.
00:33:50.000And I can understand how it's a shock to a business when you lose, you know, what in some cases is your largest market or a place that you're reliant on for some aspect of the supply chain.
00:34:03.000But the fact is, is we had a heartland in this country.
00:34:08.000And it was carved up in large part because the multinational corporations here in the U.S., which were the pride and joy of American economic dominance, the middle class miracle in the 20th century,
00:34:22.000it was all carved up and hollowed out when multinational corporations who have not, who have no allegiance to the U.S., they're multinational.
00:34:42.000And what's good for the shareholders is cheap labor from China is putting our factories in China is, you know, and so there go the factories, there go the jobs,
00:34:50.000and then there go all of the towns and all of the buildings and all the life that you've set up in the middle of our country.
00:34:57.000And so, obviously, the purpose of this tariff war is to try to force, you know, on-shoring of those, you know, to try to bring back the American manufacturing miracle.
00:35:42.000Russia, the whole plan with Burisma and NAFTA gas and this grand Ukraine energy play that I talk about to bankrupt Russia because its major export is energy, oil and gas.
00:35:55.000And its largest market coming into it, coming into the war and coming into 2014 was Europe.
00:36:02.000The whole plan was if you can get rid of their exports to Europe, you kill the Russian economy.
00:36:09.000They can no longer fund a war machine.
00:42:31.000They dismissed it just about two weeks ago where J. Alex Haldeman went in and hacked an election machine in 30 seconds in front of the judge.
00:42:39.000They come back now a year after the trial and say, well, it's dismissed for standing.
00:42:43.000Well, you knew that standing was before you brought the case and had a trial on it.
00:43:20.000I mean, what are we to make of this, Mike, now that an election was stolen, elections will probably be stolen in the future, but the Democrats don't want to go to something very simple as paper ballot.
00:43:33.000Well, there's a lot of angles to this.
00:43:36.000Almost all of them are somewhere between disturbing and extremely disturbing.
00:43:42.000I focus on really on the censorship side of it and on the foreign policy side of it rather than because everyone knew these could be hacked.
00:43:54.000The Democrats were saying that maybe Trump had won because of vulnerabilities in the voting machines.
00:44:00.000And there was this whole Kill Chain documentary that was done.
00:44:04.000And, you know, and it was about fears that Trump would win the 2018 midterms because of how insecure the voting machines were.
00:44:11.000And then we never really saw this campaign to protect the voting machines until the mass mail-in ballot issue with, you know, in March 2020 when COVID hit and CDC said we should, you know, vote by mass mail-in ballots.
00:44:31.000And you'll be tabulated at the end in these, you know, voting.
00:44:36.000And so there's, you know, the parts of it that have terrified me have been, you know, this rogue network at DHS out of CISA, the cybersecurity infrastructure security agency, which is just a censorship cell.
00:44:54.000It was set up to stop Russian hacking because of the, you know, basically everyone thought there were a lot of questions about the murder of Seth Rich.
00:45:03.000And then it came out to, you know, that thing sort of died down when, you know, the FBI said, actually, we delegated to CrowdStrike, a third-party investigation.
00:45:14.000Of course, that's basically just a DNC intelligence firm.
00:45:17.000By the way, do you know Lou Dobbs was sued over Seth Rich as well?
00:45:21.000Yeah, they paid out the family of Seth Rich, which to me, this is totally despicable, sued Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs at Fox News for simply questioning how this man was killed.
00:45:33.000If my parents ever sued a network that was trying to get to the bottom of me being killed, they deserved to go to hell.
00:45:40.000Because, I mean, to worry about money over how your son really died, unless, of course, they were in on it.
00:45:46.000Now, my lawyer, Ty Clevenger, who I'm sure you're familiar with, who's, you know, been following the documents and begging for the laptop, has not gotten the laptop, and now we're under the Trump administration.
00:45:56.000Why won't they turn over this guy's laptop?
00:45:57.000But the whole situation, Ty explained to me, Seth Rich's brother came and grabbed his laptop, flew back to Denver with this kid's laptop, who's now dead, his brother.
00:46:05.000That was the first thing you're worried about?
00:46:07.000So many red flags, Mike, but nobody cared to ask the questions.
00:46:10.000And if you did ask the questions, you got sued.
00:46:15.000But the fact is, is, you know, CrowdStrike then said, well, actually, the WikiLeaks, you know, because this was, you know, what everyone was asking, what Julian Assange himself was publicly saying at the time was when he put out essentially, you know, I think he offered a sum of money for who, you know, if someone came forward and said who.
00:46:38.000And so everyone thought these WikiLeaks, you know, these DNC, you know, emails had come from some Seth Rich and then it, you know, the FBI contracts CrowdStrike.
00:46:48.000I'm not sure if I'm remembering all the details 100%, but effectively a narrative was born that actually it was Russia, you know, who got these DNC server emails.
00:46:58.000And so to stop election hacking and, you know, the servers of major political parties from being penetrated around election time by Russia, we need to stand up this CISA group inside of this sort of countering cyber hacking group within DHS.
00:47:17.000We're going to be run by Chris Krebs, who just lost his security clearance.
00:47:23.000But the fact is, is, you know, what you're doing there is you're working with hackers from the CIA and NSA and you're, you know, to stop hackers, you need to be hackers yourself.
00:47:33.000And this was set up effectively with a hacking group around election software.
00:47:40.000They then worked with Dominion and Smartmatic and all those.
00:47:45.000They were all folded into these sort of CISA working groups.
00:47:48.000And then CISA ran a parallel operation that the probably the single most extensive government censorship operation at that time that had ever, ever existed in the history of mankind.
00:48:02.000They were targeting tens of millions of tweets, the number one most, you know, the number one category that that their Web declared as the top misinformation narrative was anything questioning Dominion voting machines.
00:48:36.000And while they have that peculiar power to, you know, administer the safety software and whatnot, they are censoring, leading a, this said 120 people just in this one, one working group.
00:49:04.000You get to censor and you get to, you know, not only are you the jury deciding whether or not there is or isn't fraud, you're the judge who gets to decide what even gets entered into evidence.
00:49:12.000And so when you see something like that, you have to switch the burden and because that structure itself can only exist.
00:49:23.000I mean, to have that power be held by the same government agency.
00:49:37.000And then Chris Krebs came out and said that he hoped that, that Fox News would be bankrupted by all this and, and, but then the, the voting machines play a very strange role in US foreign policy.
00:49:49.000You, you, you look at the State Department and USAID's work with the voting machines and it's terrifying.
00:50:18.000They sent the CIA director, Bill Burns down there five months before the election and told him, don't you dare question the results that come from these voting machines five months from now.
00:50:28.000They sent the head of the Pentagon, Lloyd Austin, threaten members of the Brazilian military and say, don't you dare question the results of this election that's five months away.
00:50:37.000Then the State Department back channeled with Taiwan semiconductor in order to divert chips bound for the US during a shortage to Brazil in order to make these custom voting machines that the Brazilian president explicitly didn't want so that they could use electronic voting machines.
00:51:00.000So we're diverting chips from the US in the midst of a shortage to build electronic voting machines in a foreign country that the foreign countries top leadership says they do not want and do not trust.
00:51:15.000We are force feeding it on foreign countries.
00:51:18.000And I have to ask why the heck would we do that if these things worked right?
00:51:55.000Well, it was encouraging in Wisconsin, even though I think the Wisconsin court seat went to someone that Elon and folks were trying to stop because of how it might gerrymander things and potentially flip.
00:52:13.000The House, I believe it was paper ballots, did pass even in Wisconsin, which is a hard place to win.
00:52:22.000And so, you know, I think things like that are very encouraging.
00:52:25.000It's something that, you know, this, we'll see what turns up.
00:52:29.000You know, you need to show not just that they are vulnerable, but that there are, you really need to dig into the networks who are administering them.
00:52:37.000You know, there's been a lot of rumors around various groups from Serbia and other places.
00:52:43.000You know, these are sort of these contractors, you know, who are, you know, engaged in the various links in the chain.
00:52:52.000And I think that, you know, the investigation has to touch that as well.
00:52:57.000But we're in a much better place now than we were previously, but we'll see.