The Great America Show - IT'S THE END OF THE ROAD FOR THE DESTRUCTORS OF THE WORLD!

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:05.000 It's great to have you with us today.

00:00:06.000 In just a moment, we're going to be joined by a very special guest, a man that you probably

00:00:10.000 all know on this show, whether you've seen him on this show, or with the great Lou Dobbs,

00:00:14.000 or with the great Joe Rogan.

00:00:15.000 He makes his rounds, and he makes himself very available for the American people to

00:00:20.000 know what's going on, specifically in the cybersecurity world, but in a broader aspect

00:00:25.000 as well.

00:00:26.000 The great Mike Benz.

00:00:27.000 He's going to be with us in just a moment.

00:00:29.000 News of the day.

00:00:30.000 President Trump unrelenting on 60 Minutes and their Marxist ideology.

00:00:35.000 President Trump saying they manage to mention his name every 60 seconds on the network.

00:00:38.000 Now, I haven't fact checked him, but the chances are he's probably right.

00:00:42.000 The Trump derangement syndrome in the mainstream media, the left-wing media, is out of control,

00:00:47.000 to say the least.

00:00:49.000 Vladimir Zelensky over the weekend saying President Trump must head to Ukraine if he wants a peace

00:00:54.000 deal.

00:00:55.000 Who the hell does Zelensky think he is? 0.98

00:00:58.000 Unbelievable. 0.91

00:00:59.000 And the tariffs on China.

00:01:00.000 We're going to take all this up with the great Mike Benz.

00:01:03.000 I don't want to waste any more time.

00:01:04.000 I want to bring in Mike.

00:01:05.000 Mike, terrific seeing you over the weekend.

00:01:08.000 Let's start with that, the UFC event.

00:01:10.000 The reaction to President Trump, the people seeing President Trump.

00:01:14.000 It was like something I've never seen before.

00:01:16.000 I've been to a lot of sporting events.

00:01:17.000 You probably have.

00:01:18.000 Have you ever seen anything like it?

00:01:19.000 I haven't.

00:01:20.000 And it was President Trump, Elon Musk, the Secretary of State, the Director of National

00:01:27.000 Intelligence, the FBI Director, the HHS Secretary.

00:01:31.000 You could have a cabinet meeting at fight night, which was just super cool to see.

00:01:36.000 Yeah.

00:01:37.000 And the rousing applause for all of them.

00:01:39.000 I didn't hear a boo.

00:01:40.000 I'm sure you didn't hear a boo.

00:01:41.000 Not that you'd be able to hear a boo, but it was just unbelievable.

00:01:44.000 And President Trump, another one like you, makes himself so readily available.

00:01:49.000 You know, doesn't hide from anything.

00:01:51.000 This weekend he released his medical results for his yearly medical.

00:01:55.000 I mean, the man's as healthy as a bull. 0.57

00:01:57.000 How the hell does he do it?

00:01:59.000 Honestly, I think Trump needs to be at some point before he passes on to the next life,

00:02:06.000 cryogenically frozen and studied for generations.

00:02:10.000 You know, we do this gain-of-function freak medical research to build super viruses.

00:02:15.000 But if we could do some sort of medical research on how a man is able to have the energy of

00:02:22.000 a 50-year-old at 80, is able to have perfect health, is able to beat coronavirus simply by

00:02:31.000 staring at it long enough, can go on three hours of sleep, can eat nothing but McDonald's

00:02:36.000 cheeseburgers and Diet Cokes.

00:02:40.000 You know, he's just, he's built different.

00:02:43.000 Yeah.

00:02:44.000 The testing, you're absolutely right.

00:02:46.000 I mean, the Beagle testing, the money they spent, we're going to get into that right now,

00:02:50.000 the USAID money and all the wasted government money that we're now finding out. 0.99

00:02:54.000 It's like, you couldn't write the most crazy book in the world, Mike, and the shit that's coming out right now be in it. 0.98

00:03:01.000 USAID, I was telling you before we sat down here, USAID is funded just about everybody but you and I. 0.99

00:03:06.000 How have we gotten to this spot, this point in society, in our government, Mike,

00:03:11.000 that we're funding circumcisions in Uzbekistan and Sesame Street in Afghanistan?

00:03:17.000 I mean, at what point do you think it came to that in this country where we said we're just going to pay for everything?

00:03:23.000 I think it started in 1948 in full.

00:03:26.000 We're a nation of secrets.

00:03:30.000 We are an empire built on secrets that have to be kept from the American people because if the American people find out, then our foreign adversaries or foreign governments find out.

00:03:41.000 And so in order to maintain the empire that we have acquired through subterfuge and covert action, we need to not just keep our enemies and neutrals disinformed or uninformed, 0.87

00:03:57.000 we need to keep the American people as well so that they don't talk about it or it's not reported in our press because everybody else in the world reads our press.

00:04:05.000 And so this started in 1948 when World War II ended and we were setting up this new world order, the rules-based liberal international order with the UN, with NATO, with the World Bank, with the IMF, the international finance system.

00:04:22.000 And that also barred, under the UN Declaration on Human Rights, it barred military accession of territory.

00:04:34.000 So everything had to move towards elections and everything had to move towards hearts and minds work to influence the millions of people who live in each country so that you can take it over in the form of political vassalage rather than military control.

00:04:47.000 So that's why the CIA was set up under the 1947 act. It's a State Department function. There was a lot of talk at the time in the State Department about how to structure this CIA function.

00:04:59.000 And the CIA was doing all this sort of dirty work in terms of political meddling and funding institutions, funding charities, funding unions, funding media organizations.

00:05:10.000 They got in a lot of trouble in the 60s and 70s. USAID was created in 61. So while CIA was a plausible deniability layer for the State Department, USAID was a plausible deniability layer for the CIA.

00:05:23.000 And so we have, and all of these touch every institution in society. And it gets to a point where you really can't point saying, you know, I wonder how many governments have been overthrown by the CIA, you know, to preserve the tuna, you know.

00:05:38.000 And lo and behold, even things like fishing and whatnot play into whether or not a country like Norway joins the EU or something.

00:05:59.000 Right.

00:06:00.000 And so every industry has money associated with it. And that money, you know, the winners of the markets are the people who have governments and intelligence agencies on their side, which is why every major company touches the government.

00:06:13.000 Right.

00:06:14.000 Yeah.

00:06:15.000 Well, I just, it's so unimaginable that it's come to this point. I mean, some of the craziest things being funded by these people, but the outrage is what's so alarming to me.

00:06:26.000 You know, you see these, and it's mostly Democrats who are just absolutely going berserk. Like they are, I mean, gung ho, hate Elon Musk, want the man dead. 0.94

00:06:38.000 I don't know if you saw recently, there was a poll out justifying that President Trump could be assassinated. It's fine, that it's justifiable. If it happens, it happens. 0.88

00:06:47.000 Now, it's no joke, Mike, because we still don't know who took a shot at President Trump. We know what they tell us, that it was this guy, Matthew Cooks.

00:06:55.000 They cremate this guy's body that's unimaginable like I've ever seen before. But we don't know the true story about what happened behind this man.

00:07:02.000 We still haven't heard anything. We have the guy who's going behind the fence at Trump's golf course, who was apparently trying to buy rocket launchers from Ukraine to blow up his plane or blow up his motorcade.

00:07:13.000 And yet we have these Democrats who are, you know, gung ho that USAID is great and that we should continue to keep giving and giving and giving.

00:07:21.000 Are you as surprised as I am that they've taken their masks off? It's not just USAID, Mike. It's them wanting to bring back in MS-13 members who were deported.

00:07:31.000 Are you as surprised as I am that they've gone this far left, that they've committed?

00:07:36.000 And Lou Dobbs used to say, once you cross the penumbra, you can't come back. Are you as surprised as I am that they've went this far to take the mask off?

00:07:45.000 I think it's to be expected. This is existential for them. And frankly, I actually don't think most Democrats really care or even know about USAID and what it does.

00:07:59.000 What you have is an astroturfed protest movement, which is the same thing the blob does everywhere.

00:08:05.000 I mean, it's literally part of a stock standard playbook for how to organize a color revolution, how to bring down a democratically elected government, a popular democratically elected government.

00:08:15.000 And you'll notice that one of the things that Chuck Schumer and Senator Chris Murphy talk about is the need to drive down Trump's approval ratings.

00:08:25.000 You know, when you see messaging like that, that it's not about building up support for themselves.

00:08:31.000 They need to find a way to make the president unpopular.

00:08:35.000 You have to understand this is part of a destabilization effort that is stock standard.

00:08:40.000 And that's why you see these highly astroturfed protests.

00:08:43.000 You know, you go to these protests with a mic and a camera and you ask these people what they're protesting for.

00:08:48.000 They can't even tell you.

00:08:50.000 And they cover their faces.

00:08:52.000 Right. The stuff is sponsored. Everyone's getting reimbursed for what they do.

00:08:56.000 You know, I covered one case of this guy, Carlos Alvarez, who claimed credit for the idea of these Tesla takedown protests.

00:09:03.000 And he said at his, you know, at one of the rallies that he needs to be able to say that he bankrupted Tesla or that he helped bankrupt Tesla in order to get his next job.

00:09:15.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:09:16.000 So think about what that says.

00:09:18.000 In order to get your next job, you need to have on your resume that you bankrupted Tesla.

00:09:23.000 That means you're being hired because of that.

00:09:27.000 That means that someone is paying you, sponsoring you.

00:09:30.000 And, you know, you trace the networks and the same guy co-founded one of the censorship projects with Nina Jankovic, the DHS disinformation governance czar,

00:09:40.000 who herself was funded by USAID through the Center for Information Resilience when she had to register as a British agent after her time at DHS as part of this British influence operation.

00:09:50.000 Her name was in the integrity initiative files, which is another British intelligence busted operation from 2015 to 2019.

00:09:58.000 She had worked for NDI, the National Democratic Institute, which is the DNC branch of the CIA.

00:10:03.000 And what was this woman's name?

00:10:04.000 Nina Jankovic.

00:10:05.000 Nina Jankovic.

00:10:06.000 Yeah.

00:10:07.000 What I'm trying to say is this is all the same foreign policy establishment who's astroturfing domestic disturbances in order to try to topple the government,

00:10:14.000 which is their paid vocation, their professional set of skills doing around the world on USAID dime.

00:10:20.000 And a name that you always hear about, which up until maybe last year, you weren't allowed to say his name, George Soros.

00:10:26.000 What role is he playing in this right now?

00:10:29.000 And maybe not so much him, but his son, Alex Soros, who's married to Uma Abedin.

00:10:33.000 The other thing, Mike, that's so surprising to me is that you hear the regurgitation of like 15 of the same names constantly.

00:10:39.000 Jake Sullivan, Susan Rice, or, you know, it's like the same regurgitation of names, like there's not a few billion people living in the world.

00:10:47.000 What role is Soros playing in, I mean, he's always destabilized countries, but right now, specifically, as it pertains to President Trump and Tesla,

00:10:55.000 George Soros is the top donor drafter on the Democrat side.

00:11:01.000 I always describe the structure of the blob as being the inside of it is the State Department, the Pentagon, the intelligence community,

00:11:08.000 and then right in between is USAID. That's the government, the sort of guts, the center of the blob.

00:11:15.000 Underneath that, you have the NGOs, and you have the civil society partners who are the spandrels of the State Department, the Pentagon, the CIA, and USAID.

00:11:26.000 That, you know, sort of like tree roots tentacle out into the world, tens of thousands of them, hundreds of thousands of them.

00:11:34.000 On top of the government side of the blob is the donor drafter class.

00:11:39.000 And by donor drafter, I mean these are very high net worth individuals or multinational corporations or hedge funds that donate into the political campaigns and therefore get access to personnel to determine who is actually running CIA,

00:12:00.000 who is actually running State, who is actually running Pentagon, who is actually running USAID.

00:12:04.000 Because that's basically the deal that you make with donors is they pay you a lot of money, they get a say over how you staff the agencies and personnel is policy.

00:12:16.000 So it's not really about what you run on, it's about who is actually at the agency doing what they do.

00:12:22.000 And I call them donor drafters because you can think of it like a bike race.

00:12:27.000 In a bike race, the best strategy is not to be out front the whole race where you are bearing the full force of the wind.

00:12:36.000 The best strategy in a bike race is to be right behind the guy who's cutting the wind for you.

00:12:42.000 And so what you have in this donor drafter class are people who co-invest with USAID, co-invest with the State Department in all their operations.

00:12:50.000 They also pay for the political campaigns.

00:12:52.000 And then their own personal interests draft off of the battering ram of what state and CIA and USAID and Pentagon do.

00:13:02.000 So for example, ExxonMobil will make political contributions to a particular candidate.

00:13:07.000 They will get a say over, for example, Rex Tillerson was the Secretary of State for Donald Trump.

00:13:12.000 The State Department will then go in and fund NGOs.

00:13:16.000 It will do diplomacy with foreign countries.

00:13:19.000 It will open up the oil and gas lines.

00:13:21.000 And ExxonMobil will make banks.

00:13:23.000 So they've both donated into the government pool of money.

00:13:27.000 Right.

00:13:28.000 And they are drafting off of what the State Department does.

00:13:31.000 So there's essentially a battering ram that knocks open the door for this financial and corporate class to operate.

00:13:39.000 And you see the same thing with Soros.

00:13:40.000 You know, he didn't just luck his way into $38 billion at the Open Society Foundation.

00:13:46.000 His personal investments profit massively off of the operations that he donates into and drafts off of.

00:13:56.000 Can I give a few examples of this?

00:13:57.000 Absolutely.

00:13:58.000 Flush this out.

00:13:59.000 So, for example, George Soros bought a large stake in Halliburton.

00:14:03.000 Right.

00:14:04.000 And then campaigned on expanding NATO.

00:14:06.000 And Halliburton holds the contracts with NAFTA Gas to process the oil and gas and shale in Ukraine.

00:14:12.000 George Soros, there was a famous case in the 1990s where George Soros was supporting the Clinton administration

00:14:19.000 as they were privatizing the Russian state-held assets after the end of the Cold War.

00:14:24.000 And the other partner of George Soros at that time was a group called the Harvard Institute for International Development.

00:14:32.000 Go figure.

00:14:33.000 If that name sounds familiar, it's a parallel with the U.S. Agency for International Development.

00:14:37.000 And, in fact, the Harvard Institute for International Development got half a billion dollars from the U.S. Agency for International Development

00:14:44.000 to travel to Russia and to help them sell off all of these previously state-held assets by the Soviet Union

00:14:54.000 in fire sale prices to Western investors in the Wall Street, London class.

00:15:01.000 And because they were on the ground and doing these auctions through the USAID money, they held closed auctions

00:15:09.000 where the only two outside investors who were allowed to actually purchase these newly privatized assets of the Soviet Union

00:15:18.000 were the Harvard Institute for International Development, the Harvard Endowment, and George Soros' Quantum Fund.

00:15:26.000 So they helped topple the Soviet Union. You can say that was a very good thing. The fact is they did. 0.99

00:15:36.000 They got money from USAID to rip the country apart and sell off all its assets to foreigners. 1.00

00:15:44.000 And in exchange for that, they got to make bank because they had private exclusive access to all of those assets.

00:15:54.000 And you see the same thing everywhere.

00:15:56.000 In Ukraine, George Soros is massively active in Ukraine.

00:16:00.000 And what are they doing? They're selling off every aspect of Ukraine.

00:16:03.000 It's oil, it's gas, it's minerals, it's agriculture to these Wall Street investment firms

00:16:09.000 and to these large banks and multinational corporations.

00:16:13.000 And so they're on both sides of it.

00:16:15.000 And Soros does that same thing with the State Department, does the same thing with NATO,

00:16:19.000 does the same thing with the IMF and the World Bank.

00:16:21.000 And it's basically the ultimate insider trading card because you know exactly what to invest in.

00:16:27.000 And you know it's going to be a safe bet because it's backed by the full force and credit of the U.S. military,

00:16:33.000 the Central Intelligence Agency, and the State Department as long as the wrong person doesn't get elected.

00:16:38.000 And they ran into Trump getting elected.

00:16:41.000 Per se, a brick wall.

00:16:43.000 I want to talk about NGOs, but you brought up a really interesting point, the rare earth minerals.

00:16:47.000 I'm convinced, Mike, that the reason Vladimir Zelensky made that whole little scene,

00:16:52.000 and it's being reported places, in the White House and stormed off without signing anything,

00:16:57.000 is because he's already sold off his rare earth minerals to, I think they said England was one of the places.

00:17:06.000 What's your thoughts on that?

00:17:08.000 Because something doesn't smell right.

00:17:10.000 Now the guy is an oligarch, he's a dictator in my opinion, Zelensky, won't hold elections,

00:17:15.000 tells Donald Trump, you've got to come to my country if you want peace. 1.00

00:17:18.000 Donald Trump should tell him to go to hell. 0.99

00:17:20.000 You clearly don't want peace in your country. 0.99

00:17:22.000 So he comes to America, he does that whole little song and a dance, and he storms off.

00:17:27.000 What was behind that? Do you think he's already sold off the rare earth minerals for Ukraine?

00:17:32.000 Well, there's a lot of rare earth minerals, so I doubt that he's sold them all off.

00:17:36.000 But what America would want.

00:17:38.000 Right. Well, the UK side of this is really fascinating.

00:17:41.000 And I wish that there was more investigative reporting on this piece, because I have long been fascinated with the UK role,

00:17:50.000 which I think in many respects may actually be more dominant than the US role in Ukraine.

00:17:56.000 You know, there's a famous saying about NATO.

00:17:58.000 It was by Lord Ismay, who was the first Secretary General of NATO.

00:18:04.000 It's actually on NATO's website right now if you go to their About History section.

00:18:09.000 And this is a famous quote by him where he said,

00:18:11.000 The purpose of NATO is to keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down.

00:18:17.000 Now, if you think about that framing, that's basically calling NATO a British institution designed to get America to fight its wars, designed to keep Russia boxed out and contained and to stop Germany's rise.

00:18:39.000 And there's always been this, you know, sort of industrial war with Germany since the end of World War II.

00:18:47.000 And I'm very interested in the first part of that, because what you see, go back to Russiagate and how it started with Christopher Steele and the British intelligence agent.

00:18:58.000 Right.

00:18:59.000 It's now come out in the Crossfire Hurricane documents that were just released this past week that when Christopher Steele was interviewed by the FBI, he said that he was doing this in addition to serving his client, Hillary Clinton.

00:19:13.000 He was doing this because Trump was, quote, his main opponent, because his foreign policy would undermine British interests.

00:19:21.000 It would undermine the US-UK special relationship and the British interests of that.

00:19:26.000 So you have the origins of Russiagate being essentially a British intelligence operation to stop Trump from enacting a foreign policy vis-a-vis NATO.

00:19:37.000 Right.

00:19:38.000 Because that was the big thing in 2016 is Trump was going to get us to leave NATO and going to end military support for Ukraine.

00:19:44.000 Because remember, this war did not start in 2020.

00:19:46.000 Right.

00:19:47.000 It started in 2014 when we overthrew that government.

00:19:49.000 Yes.

00:19:50.000 And then we were funding the reconquest of those territories in the East.

00:19:55.000 And with Trump pledging neutrality on that, the British interests were massively threatened.

00:20:02.000 After the Cold War, all of these British companies and banking interests and their portfolio companies made a massive play for Eurasia, which is the heart of this big new Brzezinski.

00:20:15.000 It's the world island.

00:20:16.000 It's where two-thirds of the world's critical minerals are and a huge portion of its oil and gas.

00:20:23.000 And it looked like that was possible in the 1990s when we won the Cold War to effectively colonize Eurasia and install puppet presidents everywhere like we did with Boris Yeltsin in the 1996 election and before that.

00:20:37.000 And so, all these British banks and British companies like Shell and British Petroleum, who figure very heavily in this, Shell signed a $10 billion deal with Naftagas, the largest state-owned gas company in Ukraine.

00:20:53.000 In 2013, I believe, is when Shell signed that $10 billion, and then those investments effectively went to zero when the places that they had the mining rights over became occupied by the Russians in the Donbass, which is where most of the shale is as well as offshore in Crimea.

00:21:16.000 In 2014, when Crimea became annexed and when the Donbass declared themselves breakaway states, suddenly, Naftagas could not exploit those regions.

00:21:29.000 And so, the co-investors were all holding empty bags unless the US military went in there and reconquered those territories.

00:21:40.000 And so, you have a British operation to get America to war.

00:21:44.000 I mean, this is very similar to how World War I, the US involvement in World War I.

00:21:50.000 And the fact is, is I believe that there is just an incredibly shocking degree of British manipulation, of US opinion about the war.

00:22:05.000 Every single person in the blob, of any consequence, seems to come up through some sort of British influence node,

00:22:12.000 whether they spend a, you know, a summer at the London School of Economics or Oxford,

00:22:18.000 or they're in some, you know, a fellowship with Chatham House or one of the other NGOs or universities or think tanks of British origin.

00:22:28.000 And, you know, we call this a special relationship, but it's especially toxic for the United States because, you know, we fought a war of independence against, you know, the British dominating US affairs.

00:22:43.000 And I think something similar is playing out vis-a-vis Ukraine and Russia.

00:22:49.000 So, I don't know, in particular, at the root of it, how much of it has already been sold off to the British.

00:22:54.000 But I would not be surprised if something like that were to be reported.

00:23:03.000 Going back to the broader, how this thing started, and that's a lot of things that people don't realize, is that it really did start in 2014.

00:23:10.000 What people don't talk about, what you don't hear the mainstream media talking about, is how NATO has expanded since 1990, right?

00:23:18.000 There was a deal made between Baker and Mikhail Gorbachev that it would not extend further east from Germany.

00:23:25.000 Mike, time and time, and this is an unpopular opinion if you're talking to the left and the mainstream media.

00:23:32.000 But time and time again, we've disobeyed, we've disobeyed, we've disobeyed, and we've continued to move further to the east,

00:23:39.000 up until the point of about to be Ukraine, which would have been on the border of Russia.

00:23:44.000 The border of Russia. How is Russia, now I'm not defending Vladimir Putin by any stretch of the imagination,

00:23:49.000 but I'm saying looking at a broad base, what would you expect any other, if it wasn't Russia?

00:23:55.000 Say it were Australia, where Russia is right now. 0.95

00:23:59.000 What would you expect Australia to do, Mike?

00:24:01.000 If you've told them for the last 30 years, 30 plus years, that we're not moving further east, but we've continued to lie.

00:24:08.000 What do they expect next is coming when you've lied to them about expansion of territory?

00:24:13.000 What can they expect next?

00:24:15.000 Do you understand my rationale of thinking?

00:24:18.000 What would any normal person do?

00:24:20.000 Well, you know what this is.

00:24:21.000 They did it because they thought they could get away with it.

00:24:24.000 Yeah, well that too.

00:24:25.000 And when you fold the country into NATO, the conditions for joining NATO is that you privatize your markets, you adjust your rule of law, you form all this interconnectivity, and you effectively become absorbed into the Borg.

00:24:42.000 And a lot of that means excising the influence of Russia, for example.

00:24:50.000 This is why all these NATO countries since the late 1990s were former Soviet bloc countries.

00:25:01.000 And the goal is to seize Eurasia. 0.97

00:25:05.000 Russia itself sits on $75 trillion worth of natural resources, the most of any country in the world by far.

00:25:12.000 It's all underexploited.

00:25:14.000 But all it takes is, if you can have a puppet president in there, and you can regime change it, and you can continue the work that was done in the 1990s under Yeltsin,

00:25:24.000 that would make the U.S. and U.K. wealthy beyond anything ever conceived of by man.

00:25:33.000 And so that is the prize.

00:25:35.000 And this has been the long road to Damascus, so to speak, to try to make that happen by folding every sequential country into NATO.

00:25:46.000 But they weren't expecting the resistance that happened.

00:25:51.000 Really, it started with this 2014.

00:25:53.000 That was really the first time that Russia punched back, so to speak, by sort of backstopping the Donbass and Crimea secession.

00:26:01.000 And now we're in this world where we're confronted with, are we still the unipolar power that can singularly do anything we want with no pushback from any other country?

00:26:15.000 I think we've found out and been somewhat humbled in the past decade that that is no longer the case.

00:26:21.000 And frankly, power corrupts absolute power, corrupts absolutely.

00:26:27.000 The fact is, is it only got this bad.

00:26:30.000 I think when James Baker and, you know, everyone involved in the early 1990s, you know, pledges to Gorbachev and whatnot, I don't think that they...

00:26:44.000 It was easy to make that statement because, you know, the unipolar moment had not yet fully made itself manifest.

00:26:54.000 Right.

00:26:55.000 But as that snowballed, it became like stepping on a bug.

00:26:59.000 Well, is it the right or wrong thing to do if it wasn't aggressing on you?

00:27:02.000 It doesn't matter.

00:27:03.000 It's a bug.

00:27:04.000 And that's the way they saw the Soviet.

00:27:06.000 That's the way they saw the Russians.

00:27:08.000 That's the way they saw the Belarusians.

00:27:10.000 It's the way they saw everyone living in the stands.

00:27:13.000 Basically, everybody west of Germany, everybody east of Germany was basically just a bug. 0.99

00:27:19.000 And, you know, you better be absorbed into our diet or you're going to end up on our windshield anyway as we drive at you. 1.00

00:27:28.000 But the fact is, is this this was an incredibly corrupt process and it's tied right back to Soros as well.

00:27:33.000 Soros wrote a book in 1995 called The Future of NATO about or maybe it's 1993.

00:27:40.000 And this is right before he basically advocated for.

00:27:45.000 Remember, NATO never fired a bullet until 1995.

00:27:48.000 Right.

00:27:49.000 They formed in 1949.

00:27:51.000 They went 46 years as a defensive alliance without ever having to fire a bullet in defense.

00:27:57.000 The first connect action they took was offensive action.

00:28:02.000 That's all they've ever done.

00:28:04.000 And so the fact is, is, you know, NATO obviously should have gone away after the Cold War.

00:28:11.000 It was set up specifically for that.

00:28:13.000 They hemmed and hawed and said, actually, well, while we've got this gigantic transatlantic military force set up, let's use it to be the battering ram of empire acquisition.

00:28:26.000 And that's that's all it's been from, you know, from Iraq to Afghanistan to Libya to Yugoslavia.

00:28:33.000 But the fact is, is it's.

00:28:38.000 If other countries have power and agency, there's probably nothing more offensive and existential and consequential than a rival military threatening to kill you.

00:28:49.000 Yeah. And we have we've unleashed this.

00:28:52.000 And I think Trump is trying to redraw the alliance map.

00:28:55.000 There's no reason that we can't be allies with a lot of our of our adversaries and restore trade relations and have prosperity for all.

00:29:06.000 The only people who lose from that are the multinational corporations who have bet on the those, you know, those adversarial relations and relationships netting them resources or deals and the defense contractors who were a huge part of the lobbying force for the expansion of NATO.

00:29:25.000 There's an incredible set of contemporaneous reporting that was dug up by Kenokoa the Great on X.

00:29:31.000 He's great.

00:29:32.000 Yeah, just goes through just and just real after real of, you know, how all the, you know, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Boeing and they were just lobbying, spending hundreds of millions of dollars on Congress to authorize, you know, and support NATO expansion.

00:29:47.000 And, you know, that's what we're up against now.

00:29:50.000 And we'll see if if we can pull off these.

00:29:52.000 Think about how many corporations, the good corporations, too.

00:29:56.000 By good, I mean bad.

00:29:57.000 That would go out of business if we had world peace and we'd live by a message that you just relayed.

00:30:03.000 I want to take a trip east now to China.

00:30:06.000 By the way, going back to Russia real quick.

00:30:09.000 I say it all the time.

00:30:10.000 Think about how nice it would be if we could normalize relations with them and have trade, like you said.

00:30:15.000 There would essentially be world peace because now China and Russia are separated.

00:30:22.000 Iran doesn't make a move. 0.98

00:30:24.000 North Korea, I don't think they'll ever make a move, but they don't make a move. 0.98

00:30:27.000 So if you can normalize relations with Russia, think about the world peace it would create. 0.89

00:30:32.000 So now speaking of China, I mean, Xi Jinping is losing it.

00:30:36.000 I think he's losing his country.

00:30:37.000 He's losing his people.

00:30:39.000 They rely heavily on coal imported.

00:30:42.000 They rely on food.

00:30:43.000 They can't self-sustain, right?

00:30:45.000 They need the rest of the world to keep them going.

00:30:47.000 But they've run into a hacksaw right now.

00:30:49.000 And that hacksaw is Donald Trump. 0.86

00:30:51.000 Xi Jinping, like I said, I think is losing his mind.

00:30:54.000 Corporations are going to start to leave.

00:30:56.000 You see NVIDIA today comes out and says they're going to start building these superchips here in America.

00:31:00.000 Mike, I didn't think I'd ever see the day that we'd hear,

00:31:03.000 now we'll wait and see if it happens, but even hear those words that we'll be able to do that.

00:31:08.000 You see ships sitting in Beijing right now, over in China, that are docked because we've canceled orders.

00:31:15.000 I think what Donald Trump is doing is excellent.

00:31:17.000 I think he should go as hard as he possibly could.

00:31:19.000 I don't necessarily agree with lifting the tariff ban on phones and computers.

00:31:23.000 I think China needs to feel the wrath 100% and feel the pain 100% for them to realize that we're not the walking patent anymore.

00:31:30.000 We're not the doormat anymore.

00:31:32.000 How do you think this plays out now, short term, over the next few weeks, to months, to years?

00:31:38.000 The ball's in China's court. 0.98

00:31:40.000 What do they do?

00:31:42.000 The alliance map is being redrawn right now.

00:31:44.000 For sure.

00:31:45.000 I do believe that the scale of Chinese influence on our Congress, on our shadow cabinet right now,

00:31:57.000 is still something that's not really made clear to the American public in the way that it needs to be.

00:32:07.000 When you look at the China relationships with the First Family and the Biden administration,

00:32:12.000 and Hunter Biden having the head of Chinese intelligence as a client and getting $10 million from these various consulting and brokering deals,

00:32:23.000 selling off LNG ports to Chinese investors, and working closely with Chinese energy companies.

00:32:32.000 You look at something like the Bush China Foundation, which I believe was Neil Bush.

00:32:38.000 This was set up right as Trump had won the 2016 election.

00:32:43.000 The Bush China Foundation is a parallel track diplomacy for high-level GOP officials to have dual track diplomacy with the CCP,

00:32:56.000 and to further business entanglements with China, and it was set up explicitly to counter the elected president's hawkish position towards China.

00:33:09.000 Right.

00:33:10.000 And, you know, this is because the GOP was the big business party for, that was its way of, you know, the Democrats had Hollywood, media, universities, unions,

00:33:22.000 and basically the Republicans had the energy companies, the, you know, the defense contractors, and the Chamber of Commerce, the big business companies.

00:33:32.000 And that was always sort of what kept parity between the, you know, the two sides.

00:33:37.000 And Trump sort of ran over both when he beat both a Bush and a Clinton to become president in 2016.

00:33:43.000 And so, you know, you see this on both sides of the aisle, this lobbying mechanism to keep the trade relations with China going.

00:33:50.000 And I can understand how it's a shock to a business when you lose, you know, what in some cases is your largest market or a place that you're reliant on for some aspect of the supply chain.

00:34:03.000 But the fact is, is we had a heartland in this country.

00:34:07.000 Yep.

00:34:08.000 And it was carved up in large part because the multinational corporations here in the U.S., which were the pride and joy of American economic dominance, the middle class miracle in the 20th century,

00:34:22.000 it was all carved up and hollowed out when multinational corporations who have not, who have no allegiance to the U.S., they're multinational.

00:34:31.000 Yeah.

00:34:32.000 And use this sort of Milton Friedman-esque, maximize total shareholder value.

00:34:37.000 It doesn't matter what's good for the country.

00:34:39.000 What matters is what's good for the shareholders.

00:34:41.000 Yeah.

00:34:42.000 And what's good for the shareholders is cheap labor from China is putting our factories in China is, you know, and so there go the factories, there go the jobs,

00:34:50.000 and then there go all of the towns and all of the buildings and all the life that you've set up in the middle of our country.

00:34:57.000 And so, obviously, the purpose of this tariff war is to try to force, you know, on-shoring of those, you know, to try to bring back the American manufacturing miracle.

00:35:10.000 It's amazing.

00:35:11.000 Yeah.

00:35:12.000 As you mentioned, NVIDIA is now pledging half a billion, half a trillion dollars worth of investment.

00:35:16.000 Yeah.

00:35:17.000 I don't know how many other countries do this.

00:35:18.000 But the fact is, in terms of how China will respond, a lot of this is going to depend on what happens in Ukraine vis-a-vis Russia.

00:35:28.000 Because, just like you said, there's no reason that we can't be allies with Russia against China.

00:35:34.000 In fact, the Blob's maximum pressure campaign on Russia drove Russia into an alliance with China. 0.66

00:35:41.000 Yes.

00:35:42.000 Russia, the whole plan with Burisma and NAFTA gas and this grand Ukraine energy play that I talk about to bankrupt Russia because its major export is energy, oil and gas.

00:35:55.000 And its largest market coming into it, coming into the war and coming into 2014 was Europe.

00:36:02.000 The whole plan was if you can get rid of their exports to Europe, you kill the Russian economy.

00:36:09.000 They can no longer fund a war machine.

00:36:11.000 They'll be sitting ducks.

00:36:12.000 We will fund a revolution within the country to topple their government.

00:36:16.000 They'll have no money to fight back against us.

00:36:18.000 And then, boom, we win Eurasia.

00:36:20.000 Risk game is over.

00:36:21.000 Right.

00:36:22.000 The problem is, is we cut Russia off of Europe. 0.98

00:36:25.000 And what do they do?

00:36:26.000 They built something called the Power of Siberia 2 pipeline.

00:36:30.000 You know, we blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.

00:36:32.000 No, we didn't do that.

00:36:34.000 I'm sorry.

00:36:35.000 Ukrainian intelligence.

00:36:37.000 I heard if you saw Scott Bessett with Tucker Carlson.

00:36:41.000 And Tucker goes, yeah, we blew up the Nord Stream and Scott Bessett keeps talking.

00:36:45.000 And Tucker goes, yeah, we blew up the – and Scott Bessett just starts laughing.

00:36:49.000 I mean, how much more obvious could it have been, Mike?

00:36:52.000 Oh, no.

00:36:53.000 I mean, I saw it coming a mile away.

00:36:54.000 This is – they were talking about doing this in 2015 – or 2018, I guess, with the

00:36:59.000 Skirpal poisoning in the UK.

00:37:01.000 And I found the Integrity Initiative documents that showed a British plan to parlay the Skirpal 0.83

00:37:08.000 poisoning into a way to shut down the Nord Stream pipeline.

00:37:12.000 And I thought, one of these things is not like the other.

00:37:16.000 And, you know, this is a long time coming on that.

00:37:19.000 But the fact is, is that was supposed to bankrupt Russia when we did that.

00:37:23.000 Instead, now China gets all the cheap gas instead of Europe.

00:37:28.000 And not only that, I believe one of the main tactical issues that the Trump admin has to

00:37:36.000 thread here is the EU-China relationship.

00:37:39.000 Right.

00:37:40.000 Because this could be very, very nasty.

00:37:41.000 If a new alliance map is drawn where the US becomes closer to Russia, but the EU becomes

00:37:49.000 closer to China, that would be a massive problem.

00:37:53.000 Yes.

00:37:54.000 You don't want to lose Europe on the way to patching this up.

00:37:58.000 The problem is, is, you know, the EU blob is wholly invested in the seize Eurasia policy

00:38:03.000 against Russia.

00:38:05.000 Right.

00:38:06.000 And so we're running into that on the NATO side.

00:38:08.000 We're running into that on the British statecraft side.

00:38:10.000 And the French, you know, have just arrested Marine Le Pen.

00:38:13.000 Yep.

00:38:14.000 Who was up by something like 11 points on the early opinion polls for 2027.

00:38:18.000 She's now banned from running there. 0.80

00:38:20.000 She was running on removing France from the integrated military command of NATO, just like

00:38:27.000 Charles de Gaulle did before he was looking at plots against him.

00:38:30.000 And so, you know, Europe also is passing these censorship laws that are just devastating

00:38:37.000 to US social media companies here in the US affecting US citizens.

00:38:42.000 And...

00:38:43.000 But Mike, you know the...

00:38:45.000 I'm sorry.

00:38:46.000 I don't mean to cut you off.

00:38:47.000 The craziest part about it all is we set the stage for all of this.

00:38:50.000 America set the stage for the censorship back here in 2016, 2020, when Donald Trump was

00:38:55.000 deplatformed.

00:38:56.000 We set the stage for arresting our political opponents in 2023, when Donald Trump was indicted

00:39:02.000 150 million times, faced 700 years.

00:39:05.000 Isn't that so sad to see that the greatest country, the greatest country for freedom,

00:39:12.000 set the stage to arrest political opponents, to not run, to censor people on social media

00:39:17.000 and arrest them.

00:39:18.000 Isn't that sick and sad as an American to be sitting here talking about it?

00:39:21.000 Of course.

00:39:22.000 Although we set that stage actually in Central and Eastern Europe before we brought it to

00:39:27.000 Trump in 2016.

00:39:28.000 Right, absolutely.

00:39:29.000 So that sort of gets to this transatlantic nature of the blob that you have...

00:39:35.000 You know, it was...

00:39:37.000 Censorship came to the US in 2016 and afterwards because of the hybrid warfare doctrine that NATO

00:39:44.000 had created, after the 2014 Crimea disaster and the Donbass breakaways, this hybrid warfare

00:39:53.000 was this new NATO concept that the nature of war had changed and that it's all about hearts

00:40:00.000 and minds and the media.

00:40:01.000 Right.

00:40:02.000 And so the military has to play an active role in controlling the media and social media

00:40:06.000 in order to, you know, in order to win elections to stop pro-Russian candidates from winning.

00:40:11.000 And then they brought that to Western Europe when Brexit happened in June 2016.

00:40:17.000 Then they brought it home to the US when Trump won in 2016.

00:40:22.000 And you see the same thing with the lawfare.

00:40:24.000 I mean, Norm Eisen was the main legal hatchet man against Trump here in the US.

00:40:29.000 Yep.

00:40:30.000 He pioneered that skill set when he was the US ambassador to the Czech Republic.

00:40:35.000 Right.

00:40:36.000 In, you know, from 2011 to 2014.

00:40:38.000 And we've been doing these rule of law sort of, you know, CIA Justice Department programs

00:40:44.000 to arrest political opponents ever since the end of the Cold War in Central and Eastern Europe.

00:40:49.000 I just did a video lecture on this just this week.

00:40:52.000 Actually, it was in 1990 when the American Bar Association first started getting millions of dollars from USAID

00:41:01.000 to set up rule of law programs and judicial reform programs in Central and Eastern Europe

00:41:07.000 and to work with the prosecutors, the judges, to set up the Bar Association's law school curriculum.

00:41:13.000 And so, you know, this is something that we pioneered in the primordial soup of Central and Eastern Europe

00:41:20.000 after the Cold War in order to control governments there, in order to get people arrested.

00:41:25.000 And then we brought home against Trump.

00:41:27.000 And now it's, you know, now it's in Western Europe right now with the NATO countries.

00:41:31.000 And, you know, the fact is, is the first step to all this is killing the funding.

00:41:36.000 Yeah.

00:41:37.000 And starving out the networks.

00:41:38.000 And we'll see how much success can be done there.

00:41:40.000 Yeah.

00:41:41.000 It's truly sick.

00:41:42.000 I know you're short on time and I appreciate you joining us here today, Mike, and making the trek to come on the show.

00:41:52.000 I want to wrap up with something you perhaps know better than maybe even Donald Trump.

00:41:58.000 Election integrity.

00:41:59.000 Tulsi Gabbard, the DNI, comes out this week and says something that we all knew.

00:42:04.000 But Fox paid a $780 million settlement, you know, handing the keys over to Dominion or Smartmatic.

00:42:12.000 I forgot which one it was.

00:42:14.000 J. Alex Haldeman, I don't know if you're familiar with the case down in Georgia.

00:42:21.000 It's Raffensperger. 0.99

00:42:23.000 What the heck is it?

00:42:24.000 Anyway, they're suing in Georgia.

00:42:26.000 The case is now dismissed from standing, but it was an eight year long case.

00:42:29.000 The trial was a year ago, Mike.

00:42:31.000 They dismissed it just about two weeks ago where J. Alex Haldeman went in and hacked an election machine in 30 seconds in front of the judge.

00:42:39.000 They come back now a year after the trial and say, well, it's dismissed for standing.

00:42:43.000 Well, you knew that standing was before you brought the case and had a trial on it.

00:42:48.000 Whatever.

00:42:49.000 But Tulsi Gabbard's out this week now and says that these machines can be hacked. 0.99

00:42:52.000 We were told, Mike, for years, Donald Trump's crazy.

00:42:55.000 We're all election deniers, sued, paid lawsuits, still going through litigation. 0.84

00:43:00.000 I'm in one of the lawsuits when I worked at Fox, Stafford depositions.

00:43:04.000 I'll probably be called as a witness at the trial.

00:43:06.000 I was on the trial list for the last one.

00:43:08.000 They've ruined people's lives.

00:43:10.000 Tucker Carlson was fired.

00:43:11.000 Lou Dobbs was fired.

00:43:13.000 Still being sued.

00:43:14.000 The man's dead.

00:43:15.000 The state's being sued by these companies.

00:43:18.000 But we know that they're vulnerable.

00:43:20.000 I mean, what are we to make of this, Mike, now that an election was stolen, elections will probably be stolen in the future, but the Democrats don't want to go to something very simple as paper ballot.

00:43:33.000 Well, there's a lot of angles to this.

00:43:36.000 Almost all of them are somewhere between disturbing and extremely disturbing.

00:43:42.000 I focus on really on the censorship side of it and on the foreign policy side of it rather than because everyone knew these could be hacked.

00:43:53.000 Yeah.

00:43:54.000 The Democrats were saying that maybe Trump had won because of vulnerabilities in the voting machines.

00:44:00.000 And there was this whole Kill Chain documentary that was done.

00:44:04.000 And, you know, and it was about fears that Trump would win the 2018 midterms because of how insecure the voting machines were.

00:44:11.000 And then we never really saw this campaign to protect the voting machines until the mass mail-in ballot issue with, you know, in March 2020 when COVID hit and CDC said we should, you know, vote by mass mail-in ballots.

00:44:31.000 And you'll be tabulated at the end in these, you know, voting.

00:44:36.000 And so there's, you know, the parts of it that have terrified me have been, you know, this rogue network at DHS out of CISA, the cybersecurity infrastructure security agency, which is just a censorship cell.

00:44:54.000 It was set up to stop Russian hacking because of the, you know, basically everyone thought there were a lot of questions about the murder of Seth Rich.

00:45:02.000 Oh, man.

00:45:03.000 And then it came out to, you know, that thing sort of died down when, you know, the FBI said, actually, we delegated to CrowdStrike, a third-party investigation.

00:45:14.000 Of course, that's basically just a DNC intelligence firm.

00:45:17.000 By the way, do you know Lou Dobbs was sued over Seth Rich as well?

00:45:20.000 Is that right?

00:45:21.000 Yeah, they paid out the family of Seth Rich, which to me, this is totally despicable, sued Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs at Fox News for simply questioning how this man was killed.

00:45:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:45:33.000 If my parents ever sued a network that was trying to get to the bottom of me being killed, they deserved to go to hell. 0.97

00:45:40.000 Because, I mean, to worry about money over how your son really died, unless, of course, they were in on it. 0.95

00:45:46.000 Now, my lawyer, Ty Clevenger, who I'm sure you're familiar with, who's, you know, been following the documents and begging for the laptop, has not gotten the laptop, and now we're under the Trump administration.

00:45:56.000 Why won't they turn over this guy's laptop?

00:45:57.000 But the whole situation, Ty explained to me, Seth Rich's brother came and grabbed his laptop, flew back to Denver with this kid's laptop, who's now dead, his brother.

00:46:05.000 That was the first thing you're worried about?

00:46:07.000 So many red flags, Mike, but nobody cared to ask the questions.

00:46:10.000 And if you did ask the questions, you got sued.

00:46:12.000 Right.

00:46:13.000 Right.

00:46:14.000 Not a good look.

00:46:15.000 But the fact is, is, you know, CrowdStrike then said, well, actually, the WikiLeaks, you know, because this was, you know, what everyone was asking, what Julian Assange himself was publicly saying at the time was when he put out essentially, you know, I think he offered a sum of money for who, you know, if someone came forward and said who.

00:46:35.000 Yeah.

00:46:37.000 Something to that effect.

00:46:38.000 And so everyone thought these WikiLeaks, you know, these DNC, you know, emails had come from some Seth Rich and then it, you know, the FBI contracts CrowdStrike.

00:46:47.000 Yeah.

00:46:48.000 I'm not sure if I'm remembering all the details 100%, but effectively a narrative was born that actually it was Russia, you know, who got these DNC server emails.

00:46:58.000 And so to stop election hacking and, you know, the servers of major political parties from being penetrated around election time by Russia, we need to stand up this CISA group inside of this sort of countering cyber hacking group within DHS.

00:47:17.000 We're going to be run by Chris Krebs, who just lost his security clearance.

00:47:23.000 But the fact is, is, you know, what you're doing there is you're working with hackers from the CIA and NSA and you're, you know, to stop hackers, you need to be hackers yourself.

00:47:33.000 And this was set up effectively with a hacking group around election software.

00:47:40.000 They then worked with Dominion and Smartmatic and all those.

00:47:45.000 They were all folded into these sort of CISA working groups.

00:47:48.000 And then CISA ran a parallel operation that the probably the single most extensive government censorship operation at that time that had ever, ever existed in the history of mankind.

00:48:02.000 They were targeting tens of millions of tweets, the number one most, you know, the number one category that that their Web declared as the top misinformation narrative was anything questioning Dominion voting machines.

00:48:16.000 Right.

00:48:17.000 I think in their own files, they showed seven point seven million tweets alone that they categorized as misinformation incidents.

00:48:23.000 It's DHS.

00:48:24.000 Yeah.

00:48:25.000 You know, and so they're supposed to be set up to protect us from vulnerabilities in the voting machines.

00:48:35.000 Right.

00:48:36.000 And while they have that peculiar power to, you know, administer the safety software and whatnot, they are censoring, leading a, this said 120 people just in this one, one working group.

00:48:52.000 120 people full time censorship work.

00:48:55.000 Money well spent.

00:48:56.000 And so this is like if you're the defendant in a trial, you get to pick the judge and jury.

00:49:03.000 Right.

00:49:04.000 You get to censor and you get to, you know, not only are you the jury deciding whether or not there is or isn't fraud, you're the judge who gets to decide what even gets entered into evidence.

00:49:12.000 And so when you see something like that, you have to switch the burden and because that structure itself can only exist.

00:49:23.000 I mean, to have that power be held by the same government agency.

00:49:26.000 Right.

00:49:27.000 That there's, it's not, they don't even have the dignity of structuring it as a separate agency where they're working together.

00:49:33.000 Right.

00:49:34.000 It's literally the same very small group of people.

00:49:36.000 Right.

00:49:37.000 And then Chris Krebs came out and said that he hoped that, that Fox News would be bankrupted by all this and, and, but then the, the voting machines play a very strange role in US foreign policy.

00:49:49.000 You, you, you look at the State Department and USAID's work with the voting machines and it's terrifying.

00:49:54.000 Yeah.

00:49:55.000 The way these machines are exported.

00:49:56.000 These are private for profit companies.

00:49:59.000 These are not even NGOs.

00:50:00.000 Running our elections.

00:50:01.000 These guys are making money for it.

00:50:02.000 Running our elections.

00:50:03.000 Look at what happened in Brazil with Bolsonaro.

00:50:05.000 Right.

00:50:06.000 State Department, CIA, everyone under the Biden administration wanted, wanted Bolsonaro out of office.

00:50:11.000 Of course.

00:50:12.000 They ran a massive operation to get him out.

00:50:14.000 Bolsonaro was skeptical of the voting machines.

00:50:17.000 What did they do?

00:50:18.000 They sent the CIA director, Bill Burns down there five months before the election and told him, don't you dare question the results that come from these voting machines five months from now.

00:50:27.000 Yeah.

00:50:28.000 They sent the head of the Pentagon, Lloyd Austin, threaten members of the Brazilian military and say, don't you dare question the results of this election that's five months away.

00:50:37.000 Then the State Department back channeled with Taiwan semiconductor in order to divert chips bound for the US during a shortage to Brazil in order to make these custom voting machines that the Brazilian president explicitly didn't want so that they could use electronic voting machines.

00:51:00.000 So we're diverting chips from the US in the midst of a shortage to build electronic voting machines in a foreign country that the foreign countries top leadership says they do not want and do not trust.

00:51:15.000 We are force feeding it on foreign countries. 0.80

00:51:18.000 And I have to ask why the heck would we do that if these things worked right?

00:51:27.000 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:51:30.000 As we wrap up here, do you see any change going into the 2028 election, even the 2026 election?

00:51:37.000 Do you think they'll eventually get us back to paper ballots?

00:51:40.000 Do you think we'll be able to get rid of these things once and for all and make everyone happy, make the Democrats happy?

00:51:46.000 Mike, this is one thing we could all agree on, the left and the right, that we're all against it.

00:51:52.000 Let's do something bilateral.

00:51:55.000 Well, it was encouraging in Wisconsin, even though I think the Wisconsin court seat went to someone that Elon and folks were trying to stop because of how it might gerrymander things and potentially flip.

00:52:13.000 The House, I believe it was paper ballots, did pass even in Wisconsin, which is a hard place to win.

00:52:22.000 And so, you know, I think things like that are very encouraging.

00:52:25.000 It's something that, you know, this, we'll see what turns up.

00:52:29.000 You know, you need to show not just that they are vulnerable, but that there are, you really need to dig into the networks who are administering them.

00:52:37.000 You know, there's been a lot of rumors around various groups from Serbia and other places.

00:52:43.000 You know, these are sort of these contractors, you know, who are, you know, engaged in the various links in the chain.

00:52:52.000 And I think that, you know, the investigation has to touch that as well.

00:52:57.000 But we're in a much better place now than we were previously, but we'll see.

00:53:03.000 I appreciate you joining us today.

00:53:05.000 Terrific discussion.

00:53:06.000 I wish we had another like four or five hours to take up.

00:53:10.000 Come back soon and talk with us, please.

00:53:12.000 Thanks.

00:53:13.000 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today here on The Great America Show.

00:53:16.000 We'll see you back here tomorrow for The Great America Show.

00:53:18.000 Through our good friend, the great Roger Stone, where our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues.

00:53:23.000 We'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place, from the Sunshine State.

00:53:27.000 Until then, may God bless you, may God bless America, and may God bless the great Udabs.

00:53:32.000 We'll see you tomorrow.

The Great America Show - April 14, 2025

IT'S THE END OF THE ROAD FOR THE DESTRUCTORS OF THE WORLD!

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