The Great America Show - IT’S TRUMP AND MAGA RISING

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.

00:00:08.420 You've probably noticed there's something a little off about the special counsel, Jack Smith.

00:00:14.160 Personally, I think Jack Smith has a bit of a deranged look to him. Have you noticed?

00:00:19.220 And newly unsealed court documents show that the Marxist special counsel can act pretty strange as well.

00:00:26.140 It turns out Jack Smith got a search warrant to take a look at Trump's Twitter account back in January.

00:00:35.560 The newly released document shows that the junkyard dog obtained a search warrant for the president's Twitter page on January 17 of this year.

00:00:46.040 A public Twitter page for all of the world to see. Now, why would the junkyard dog need a search warrant for a public page?

00:00:54.500 Politico reporting that Smith subpoenaed the Twitter account to obtain data that might have revealed patterns about Trump's use of the account,

00:01:03.960 whether others had access to it, and whether there were any draft statements that were unsent.

00:01:09.880 Why any of that makes a lick of sense is beyond me.

00:01:13.560 It took Twitter, by the way, three days to comply with the Justice Department subpoena.

00:01:20.120 And because of that delay, the DOJ sanctioned Twitter and fined them $350,000 for daring to take their time and actually ask if all of this was legal.

00:01:35.220 Talk about deranged.

00:01:36.940 This special counsel certainly is.

00:01:39.100 Twitter took issue with that subpoena from Smith's team because the warrant was issued with a, quote,

00:01:45.420 non-disclosure order that prohibited Twitter from notifying Donald Trump about the warrant.

00:01:52.160 Twitter argued the order issued violated the First Amendment and that the judge should have blocked the warrant until the objection was resolved.

00:02:00.680 There was one problem with that.

00:02:02.500 In fact, the case was in front of a judge, a decorated swamp creature, District Court Judge Beryl Howell,

00:02:10.940 the same judge in the heart of the Mar-a-Lago documents case that was ultimately brought to court down in Florida.

00:02:18.580 If the names of these Marxist judges seem familiar, that's because they should. 0.99

00:02:24.080 They're the same folks, and they're just in different roles, and they change roles, they interchange, they exchange,

00:02:32.280 and they're all denizens of the deep Democrat state in D.C.

00:02:37.740 President Trump posted the following message to his Truth Social account when he discovered his account had been subpoenaed.

00:02:44.280 Quote,

00:02:45.180 Just found out that crooked Joe Biden's DOJ secretly attacked my Twitter account,

00:02:51.860 making it a point not to let me know about this major hit on my civil rights.

00:02:56.840 My political opponent is going crazy, trying to infringe on my campaign for president.

00:03:03.100 Nothing like this has ever happened before.

00:03:06.320 Does the First Amendment still exist?

00:03:08.400 Did the deranged Jack Smith tell the unselects to destroy and delete all the evidence?

00:03:14.880 These are dark days in America.

00:03:17.980 End quote.

00:03:19.200 Indeed, Mr. President.

00:03:21.160 We're truly living in a banana republic with our country on the precipice of destruction from the Marxist Dems and the deep state.

00:03:29.300 House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, releasing his latest tranche of Biden bank records,

00:03:35.180 Those records reveal the Biden crime family received an additional $20 million in foreign money from Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan,

00:03:45.340 including a $142,000 wire from a Kazakh oligarch to Hunter Biden.

00:03:51.800 He used the money to buy himself, what else, a brand new Porsche, right after a D.C. dinner.

00:03:59.160 President Trump warned us of all this.

00:04:01.240 He knew in 2020 how corrupt the Biden family really was.

00:04:04.560 He even went as far as to call out Joe Biden on the debate stage.

00:04:10.120 And Joe Biden, well, he did what he does.

00:04:13.240 He lied again.

00:04:14.760 Joe answered.

00:04:15.560 Joe got $3.5 million from Russia.

00:04:18.180 And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow.

00:04:23.340 And it was the mayor of Moscow's wife.

00:04:25.520 And you got $3.5 million.

00:04:27.620 Your family got $3.5 million.

00:04:29.220 And, you know, someday you're going to have to explain why did you get $3.5 million.

00:04:32.960 I never got any money from Russia.

00:04:34.600 I don't get money from Russia.

00:04:35.900 I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life.

00:04:40.500 I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever.

00:04:45.140 My son has not made money in terms of this thing about, what are you talking about, China.

00:04:52.280 I have not had it.

00:04:53.500 The only guy who made money from China is this guy.

00:04:56.420 What a debate and what a distortion of history it became.

00:05:01.620 President Trump even gave Joe Biden the benefit of the doubt.

00:05:04.400 His family actually made a little bit more than $3.5 million.

00:05:07.260 Joining us now here on The Great America Show is the great Steve Bannon.

00:05:12.720 Steve, great to have you back with us.

00:05:14.760 Let's start with the condition of the condition our country is in here.

00:05:19.200 The courts are absolutely rife with corruption that's infiltrated all of our federal government.

00:05:24.440 The Dems, the deep state, the Biden regime, the Obama-Biden regime, they control our federal government, don't they?

00:05:31.940 Well, Lou, it's tough to shock me, but I am actually shocked about this kind of coordinated lawfare attack,

00:05:40.880 not just shredding the Constitution, but it's obviously coordinated.

00:05:44.500 You're going to have a state indictment here, I think, next week with another 20 counts.

00:05:48.460 You've got two federal government indictments.

00:05:52.640 You've got a city, all with these radical Democrats.

00:05:57.180 I mean, it's obviously lawfare.

00:05:58.500 They know they can't beat him.

00:05:59.460 And I think the good news for people is to understand they know our movement is ascended,

00:06:04.140 and they know that Trump cannot be defeated at the ballot box.

00:06:07.240 They stole it in 2020, but I think they realize now we're on to them.

00:06:11.300 It's going to be impossible for them to do it again, particularly with Biden.

00:06:13.720 I mean, they'll trade him out for somebody.

00:06:16.160 But unable to steal it, they've got to stop him.

00:06:18.540 And they think by stopping him is putting him in prison.

00:06:21.660 It's not going to work.

00:06:23.120 It's all a joke.

00:06:24.060 But we've got to power through it.

00:06:26.000 I mean, they're doing this for opportunity costs, to make sure that they dream of resources,

00:06:32.140 to make sure that they divert his attention and the team around him,

00:06:35.520 to make sure that it's tough for him to travel or in court.

00:06:39.420 They're going to be in court by, what, Thursday or Friday on trying to suppress his free speech

00:06:43.580 to even discuss these matters to the American people.

00:06:47.140 So it's pretty obvious.

00:06:49.020 I think it's going to help us tremendously.

00:06:50.760 I think the polling is already pretty strong.

00:06:52.100 I think it's going to help us tremendously with the minority community.

00:06:56.000 I keep telling people, let's just put a picture of Jack Smith's face up to the minority community. 0.97

00:07:01.640 That's every scumbag member of law enforcement that's tried to crush them. 0.97

00:07:10.960 And let's just run on that. 0.99

00:07:13.080 So I think let's roll.

00:07:14.580 Let's just do it.

00:07:15.640 We've got these guys.

00:07:17.420 They're desperate.

00:07:18.320 They're coming after Trump with a scud weapon like Jack Smith that's been obviously weaponized as Mike Davis, 0.57

00:07:27.220 the short director from the White House.

00:07:29.060 So it's game on.

00:07:30.560 I think the only way we're going to beat this is that politically, we've got the political will and focus.

00:07:35.460 Let's beat it at the ballot box across the board everywhere.

00:07:38.400 And let's just get on with it.

00:07:40.040 Let's take a look at the metrics in terms of both initiative and progress and effectiveness.

00:07:48.000 And let's start with the House of Representatives, where the best things in this country right now are happening.

00:07:53.040 That is with the Ways and Means Committee, the Judiciary Committee, the Oversight Committee, the Subcommittee on Weaponization of the Federal Government.

00:08:00.820 The 118th Congress is living up to its early promises in its first 24 hours of existence.

00:08:07.880 I have to give them a lot of credit.

00:08:10.160 But then there is the bargaining chip, the bargaining subject of all of those first hours of the 118th Congress, namely the Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy.

00:08:23.100 He is wilting, after months of promise, he is wilting before our very eyes, whether it be on the simple fiscal discipline that's required and the honesty and the integrity of negotiations with the executive branch of the president.

00:08:40.520 He cannot even muster the will and the fire, the verb and imagination to actually consider impeaching what is obvious to all 300 million plus Americans, that Joe Biden is a corrupt president who has taken corrupt actions as president and has created a cesspool,

00:09:07.080 an absolute cesspool of unscrupulous, unprincipled, permanent bureaucrats that are going to linger long after he's gone. 1.00

00:09:17.460 Your thoughts?

00:09:19.080 Ditto.

00:09:20.180 I mean, we should have an impeachment inquiry.

00:09:23.640 First of all, they shouldn't have left for August.

00:09:26.400 They at least should have kept back the oversight in judiciary.

00:09:30.740 I think there's more than overwhelming evidence of an impeachment inquiry.

00:09:34.080 The lead story in Politico earlier this morning was that there's not even – he's lost momentum on impeaching Mayorkas, which is the lowest hanging fruit.

00:09:44.540 You can't bring an impeachment inquiry on Mayorkas if you're not doing a job.

00:09:47.680 Look, he has no interest in following through on President Trump's agenda.

00:09:54.020 You saw that in the deal he made with Biden that basically has crushed the country economically and financially, given the radical Democrats everything.

00:10:02.080 He really has no interest in any of these investigations.

00:10:05.400 Everything he's doing is just performative, and that's why I think you don't see him out there in public second being what Comer's doing, second being what Jordan's doing, driving him forward, putting his, as you call, verve and energy in the back of it.

00:10:18.400 And not just that.

00:10:21.140 I think he's doing a terrible job.

00:10:22.480 He's essentially crickets on this frontal assault on President Trump.

00:10:27.960 I mean, he should be out there saying, absolutely, if Biden wants to shut down his government about defunding Jack Smith's persecution of President Trump, so be it.

00:10:38.780 He's going to have to do it at midnight on September 30th and October 1st because there will never be an appropriations bill going forward when I'm Speaker of the House that has a penny for DOJ to continue to persecute the president and people around him.

00:10:55.360 So I think if you look at all three, financially, the fiscal thing's been a disaster.

00:11:00.080 Everything they're talking about is totally performative right now.

00:11:02.680 Remember, when we talk about all these cuts and the appropriations bill, they may shut it down, may not shut it down.

00:11:08.660 You may have to have a CR.

00:11:10.380 We're talking about $100 billion in cuts.

00:11:12.900 $100 billion in cuts is really what they're talking about.

00:11:16.580 That's less money than we've shoveled into the churnal house of Ukraine. 0.99

00:11:20.860 So everything he's doing is performative, and it's to the point.

00:11:24.680 I think as soon as President Trump feels comfortable that there's someone as an alternative, that there will be a motion to vacate on McCarthy, and we'll move on and get some action here in this Congress.

00:11:38.540 Because I think you've got individual members that are doing things.

00:11:41.240 You've got some committees that are doing things. 0.97

00:11:43.240 But overall, the leadership has been less than pathetic.

00:11:46.900 It's actually operated – I mean, Hakeem Jeffries – look, Lou, they're openly talking about on the appropriations bill, which is supposed to be where all the cuts are going to come from. 0.84

00:11:56.580 You know, he could approve this budget deal.

00:11:59.080 We didn't have to worry the cuts were coming in appropriations.

00:12:01.360 We said that at the time was a total lie.

00:12:03.640 Right now, I'm pretty well sourced up there.

00:12:06.460 The same McCarthy is – understands he may not have 30, 40, 50 votes.

00:12:10.980 He's going to cut a deal with the Democrats, just like he did on the spending bill.

00:12:13.820 So, Hakeem Jeffries is essentially a Speaker of the House.

00:12:17.880 McCarthy is just a whip for him.

00:12:20.400 And I think that's where we are.

00:12:21.500 But I do think that we're not going to have a move on here until President Trump signals that he's comfortable that there's someone there that can replace McCarthy.

00:12:31.580 Yet it is President Trump who wanted the bargaining to end and Speaker McCarthy to step forward as the choice of the Brave 20, the Freedom Caucus, the conservatives who made such a difference in the 118th Congress with their strong stand.

00:12:51.220 I'm worried now, frankly, as much about what is practical and what is understandably practical to the Republican Party.

00:13:02.220 They are without question divided in ways that they have always been, but with something new added.

00:13:09.440 And that is an intransigent set of rhinos who are – who really seem to be pretty sure they're smarter than everybody else in the House. 0.89

00:13:20.400 And I'm talking about the 20 who voted against censure of Adam Schiff, the most venal liar in the history of the House of Representatives.

00:13:31.560 And when that can't happen, what does that proffer for any action against Biden and the rest of the regime?

00:13:41.920 Well, I think, you know, those should look because those 20 are essentially the ones named the DCCC, which is the congressional campaign arm of the House of Representatives for the Democrats.

00:13:55.400 It's Brahim Kassam's group over at National Pulse did a fantastic job, a guy named Will Upton, who worked for Monica Crowley over at Treasury.

00:14:05.400 He's now with his staff, and he found this memo.

00:14:07.500 It was kind of hidden on the Internet.

00:14:09.620 He found this memo that basically the DCCC's strategy plan for 2022 – and this is where they're getting all the donors, all the money.

00:14:18.880 They're not talking about being progressive.

00:14:21.620 They're not talking about having Ilhan Omar or AOC, or they're not preaching that gospel.

00:14:27.220 What they're talking about is basically MAGA, America First Policy, kitchen table issues, manufacturing.

00:14:34.220 I mean, it's literally the Trump playbook.

00:14:36.600 And here's what they're targeting.

00:14:38.720 Those same 20 moderates that keep doing New York and all these moderates are sitting there going, oh, no, no, no, no.

00:14:43.980 We need to be more moderate.

00:14:45.300 We need to be more moderate.

00:14:46.340 What we need to do is accommodate, be more moderate, and support all these policies of Biden, and we can't have MAGA policies.

00:14:54.860 What DCCC is running against specifically the guys in New York and these other – General Bacon out in Nebraska, all these guys, the most moderate, are being targeted.

00:15:05.320 And what are they being targeted with?

00:15:06.840 They're being targeted with – they're telling – they're wanting to get candidates to run on essentially a MAGA platform, that we're working-class Democrats.

00:15:15.040 We support the working man and woman, that that's what we're about, kitchen table issues. 0.98

00:15:20.600 So the moderates, once again, have missed the plot.

00:15:23.800 It's not to be more moderate.

00:15:25.080 It's to be more MAGA.

00:15:25.960 If you're more MAGA, good things are going to happen because people right now have had a belly full of this.

00:15:30.780 And you can see this in any indice you want, any set of numbers you want, about the lived experience of the American people in the economy.

00:15:40.020 Not what you're hearing pitched to you on CNBC, not what's being pitched on MSNBC, not what the Biden White House – so the Biden White House can't believe that the $6 trillion they spent off the books with all these measures they put in there.

00:15:55.660 They're all concerned that nobody's giving them credit for Biden-Oleks.

00:15:59.660 He's not getting credit, that he's still polling in the high 30s, low 40s on ability to handle the economy.

00:16:07.180 But that's because the lived experience of the American people is horrible right now, right?

00:16:10.840 People are beyond struggling.

00:16:12.220 They're drowning.

00:16:12.860 We had a tape of someone on TikTok yesterday, some mother, talking about her children in the 20s.

00:16:18.240 So the lived experience of the American working class is not great, and it's going to get worse.

00:16:24.200 It's going to get worse because interest rates are going to go up.

00:16:27.220 And why are interest rates going to go up?

00:16:28.580 Well, Fitch just put the government, this downgraded government securities, and then the Biden said, oh, this is terrible.

00:16:34.060 This is all about MAGA holding up the debt ceiling.

00:16:36.100 It was far from it because our debt ceiling deal was not approved.

00:16:39.700 And then Moody's, on top of it, just came out and downgraded 10 regional banks.

00:16:44.120 Guess what?

00:16:44.580 Because of Biden bonds, they've turned into Biden banks, right?

00:16:47.840 They've got capital problems, and they're sitting on a ton of bad commercial real estate loans.

00:16:53.660 They also put another, what, half a dozen money-centered banks on the watch list.

00:16:58.440 So this is going to have massive credit contraction, a contraction in the economy, and particularly from people, you know, these employment things that come out.

00:17:07.260 The top-line numbers are very misleading.

00:17:09.320 With the numbers to look at it, people are getting second jobs now.

00:17:11.700 They're getting second jobs just to keep their nose above water.

00:17:15.400 And why is that?

00:17:16.220 Most of them have been living on credit card.

00:17:17.660 They've been living on the government infusion of cash that went away with COVID.

00:17:21.960 And then it was credit cards.

00:17:22.960 Well, the APR, the average APR, I think, is almost 25% right now, 24%, 25%.

00:17:27.940 And we know that they just had a huge article, I think, on Bloomberg about credit contraction for credit cards.

00:17:34.080 If you're now, you know, they're pulling back the credit cards for these young people.

00:17:37.400 They used to have four or five credit cards.

00:17:38.880 Now they got one.

00:17:39.540 So all this is doubling down into the American economy for working-class and middle-class people.

00:17:45.720 And their lives suck right now.

00:17:47.600 So all Biden's talking about is another – is more government spending. 0.95

00:17:53.100 You know, Will McCarthy's giving one last note on that.

00:17:55.500 One of the reasons we've had, in the first nine months of the year, $1.4 trillion deficit is, I warn people, you're going to have a $2 trillion deficit on this deal.

00:18:04.060 People said, oh, no, no, that's banning his hair on fire.

00:18:06.620 In the first nine months of the fiscal year, we had a $1.4 trillion deficit.

00:18:11.500 I said, we're going to have a $2 trillion deficit this year.

00:18:14.040 Why?

00:18:14.920 It's not just the spending's out of control.

00:18:17.200 I believe I just did a calculation with some Wall Street guys.

00:18:19.820 I think the tax revenues are down 21%.

00:18:22.500 I think the tax revenues, Lou, if my calculations are right, between 15% to 21% tax revenues are down.

00:18:28.940 Why are tax revenues down?

00:18:30.360 Because the economy's slowing.

00:18:32.180 Less capital gains tax money's coming in.

00:18:34.680 Less taxes from other areas coming in.

00:18:37.080 The economy is slowing down.

00:18:38.480 The real economy, the lived economy, not the financial generated GDP.

00:18:44.080 So people's lived experience is bad, and it's going to get a lot worse.

00:18:48.460 We're talking with the great Steve Bannon, Bannon's War Room.

00:18:52.500 You've got to see it.

00:18:53.920 It's a great, great broadcast, or should I say podcast.

00:18:58.380 I think both work.

00:18:59.720 We're coming right back.

00:19:00.700 Stay with us, and we're going to take up what is either party doing right now for the working man and woman in this country,

00:19:07.700 their families, and the prospect of the middle class.

00:19:11.560 We continue in one moment.

00:19:19.080 We're back with Steve Bannon, and we were talking about, Steve was talking about the real America, the real economy,

00:19:27.400 and what's happening to real people.

00:19:29.220 And by that, I mean working men and women, their families, the middle class.

00:19:33.120 And, Steve, the thought is there, I suppose, in the hearts and minds of some of the Republican conference.

00:19:42.040 But I don't see any practical, pragmatic step to reaffirm the American middle class, the working man and woman in this country,

00:19:54.540 and their family on the part of the Republican Party.

00:19:56.840 And that was well underway under the Trump administration.

00:19:59.780 He had turned to those forgotten Americans, and we're not seeing it.

00:20:07.820 And the Democrats have decided they're going to put together a constituency of the weirdest, oddest, most perverse,

00:20:14.640 and dissolute elements of our society and call it a party.

00:20:19.580 Your thoughts?

00:20:21.400 I don't think I could agree with you more, Lou.

00:20:23.800 I think that most of what McCarthy has done and, obviously, McConnell has been very performative just to go along with playing along with Biden

00:20:33.640 and hope that lightning strikes because they're really not putting through a coherent government opposition of what should be done.

00:20:44.760 The only place you're seeing that is President Trump on the campaign trail.

00:20:48.340 Quite frankly, what I call the Keebler elves, the 12 people running against him, you know, in the presidential primary,

00:20:55.680 you're not seeing a lot of, you know, I'm not getting blown away by the ideas coming out of there.

00:21:00.500 That's more of just the happy talk, Republican, you know, stock and trade talking points.

00:21:06.300 And I think it's one of the reasons that you're seeing no one get traction there.

00:21:09.640 And the person had traction.

00:21:11.700 As people get to know him more, Ron DeSantis is starting to implode.

00:21:14.600 But, no, I don't think you see a comprehensive alternative presented by the Republicans.

00:21:20.800 And they think that they can do this and just get along because of Biden's increasing popularity.

00:21:26.720 I don't think that works.

00:21:27.900 I think you have to give people a true alternative and something you're prepared to fight for.

00:21:32.980 I just think the donors that really control the Republican Party don't want, you know, bold ideas put forward.

00:21:38.980 And so you're not getting them.

00:21:39.980 You're hearing them from President Trump.

00:21:41.280 I keep telling people if anybody would pay attention to his speeches that are actually policy speeches,

00:21:47.720 he's putting forward a pretty well thought through, well organized plan.

00:21:53.680 And, of course, you know that we're training up people with Russ Votes Group and with Heritage.

00:21:59.880 They're getting organized to hit the beach day one.

00:22:02.940 Three or four thousand people that would be part of that would be the administration would take over right away.

00:22:07.620 President Trump has given five and a half hours of primetime speeches in the last month at the – he gave it at the freedom – you know, the Ralph Reed Freedom Conference for the Evangelicals in D.C.

00:22:22.980 He went to Philadelphia for the Moms for Liberty, gave it two and a half – the parental – that's that whole parental rights movement.

00:22:31.120 And then he went out to Iowa and gave a very detailed one on economics.

00:22:37.400 And he gave – went to Turning Point also and gave another one on economics.

00:22:40.140 So four or five speeches, not one minute picked up by Fox.

00:22:44.200 And really not talked about by the, you know, the kind of mainstream but conservative media.

00:22:50.180 And he's putting out really media ideas.

00:22:52.380 And that's, to me, the alternative program we've got to really take his first term and turbocharge it.

00:22:58.900 And I think that's what he intends to do.

00:23:00.360 And I think it's all out there, what he's putting out.

00:23:02.320 It's very exciting.

00:23:04.580 It is exciting.

00:23:06.100 And it is, I think, interesting, at least in theory.

00:23:11.800 What I worry about is – right now is what I worried about during his first presidency.

00:23:18.700 And that is his lack of support and organization and committed, if you will, numbers behind each of his ideas.

00:23:29.440 And by that I mean there is no one in academia that he can reach to because nearly every economist is under contract to a Marxist-dim HR department or CEO that is trying to make a splash with the cocktail circuit.

00:23:47.440 We're looking at compromised characters in all aspects, it seems, of our society.

00:23:54.540 The knowledge economy has turned into a knowledge nightmare.

00:24:00.080 They have little knowledge, and they have great pretense to owning the country's future.

00:24:06.620 The only problem is the Marxist-dims actually do have control of all the levers of power in this country right now.

00:24:12.940 Name one, Steve, if you will, major lever of power that the Democrats, the Marxist-dims, don't possess.

00:24:22.840 It's remarkable.

00:24:23.680 This is a fifth column that's succeeded as of right now.

00:24:27.320 They've done Herbert Marcuse in the Frankfurt School.

00:24:32.120 You know, they did the long march through the institutions, and they did it well.

00:24:35.660 I mean, you've got to give – the devil is due.

00:24:37.740 That's what we've got to take back.

00:24:38.760 You're 100% correct.

00:24:39.660 But I have a solution for your first part, Lou.

00:24:42.140 All right.

00:24:42.720 How about Lou Dobbs?

00:24:43.800 How about Lou Dobbs?

00:24:45.020 I've got three options.

00:24:46.260 Secretary of Treasury, head of the National Economic Council inside the White House, or chief of staff.

00:24:55.480 First of all, Trump would do all three of them in a second.

00:24:59.200 He would do all three in a second.

00:25:00.220 So, Lou, I'll put you on the spot here on your own show.

00:25:02.260 No, seriously.

00:25:03.440 If I had – you'd give me a couple of guys like Lou Dobbs in the website. 0.76

00:25:06.880 Well, who else would I let do this to me right now?

00:25:11.860 Okay.

00:25:12.340 Well, you know what?

00:25:13.000 Now, I'm going to hold you to this.

00:25:16.020 Trump's a war horse.

00:25:17.700 Trump's an old war horse.

00:25:18.900 He admits that. 0.99

00:25:19.560 You're an old war horse.

00:25:21.560 What a better – you know, if we had you in the – listen, here's my point.

00:25:26.140 We – and I keep telling people this.

00:25:28.120 It's not just the primary, and we've got to chop our way through the woods here.

00:25:31.540 It's not just the general, which is going to be tougher than 16 because they see us coming.

00:25:37.560 It is once we have victory, every day starting the 20th of January 2025 is going to be Stalingrad in the government because Donald Trump is bound and determined to take apart the administrative and deep state and at the same time to confront China and some of our enemies internationally and rebuild this economy.

00:25:58.300 I mean the workload – and remember, Lou, at that time on that afternoon, I think – and I think you'd back me up.

00:26:05.760 We're going to have about $37 to $38 trillion of face amount of debt on the balance sheet of the government.

00:26:12.060 We're going to have another $9.5 or $10 trillion at the Federal Reserve.

00:26:16.200 And the tax cuts of Trump, you know, the $4 trillion of tax cuts are coming back up immediately.

00:26:22.280 Now, they generate more revenue than they cost, but there is a gap there.

00:26:26.600 So President Trump's going to be in a bind.

00:26:28.880 And I keep telling people, if you want to take your country back and change the direction of this republic back to what it was when it was bequeathed to us, we've got some work to do.

00:26:39.740 But what we're going to need is a couple of Lou Dobbs types that can help the president translate the ideas into actionable policies and the ability to take on the deep state. 1.00

00:26:52.820 Because the deep state's just going to sit there and go, what a lovely idea.

00:26:57.140 You know, Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, Jack Posobiec, Lou Dobbs, you know, a bunch of these guys with Trump, you know, won this election.

00:27:04.120 We're just going to toss them the keys.

00:27:05.180 That's not going to happen.

00:27:06.640 It is going to be 10 times worse than it was when we won in 2016.

00:27:11.500 And that's what I think people got.

00:27:12.680 Now, here's the good news.

00:27:13.900 I think that there is a vast majority of Americans, I happen to think 60% to two-thirds of the country, that have had a belly full of these Marxist Democrats and this illegitimate regime and are prepared to have President Trump's back, whatever it takes to get this country back on track.

00:27:33.180 I'm just telling people it's going to be very tough.

00:27:37.400 It's doable, but tough.

00:27:38.420 And I think the thing that's going to be Damocles' sword that's going to hang over us is this economy.

00:27:44.920 I am – when I see a story coming out of New York One yesterday, Lou, and you're quite familiar with Manhattan, that said that 50% of the office buildings in New York are now worth less than the face amount of the debt on them.

00:28:00.860 And you know that pretty quickly, these landlords, given what's happened in the commercial office space and the downgrade that Moody's just did, they're going to be tossing the keys back to a lot of banks.

00:28:11.760 We're going to be – we're over-levered like China's over-levered, and we're going to have hell to pay for this. 0.97

00:28:17.380 So I think people just got to strap in.

00:28:20.200 And I think people have to understand that this is also a – part of it is certainly – is a natural cycle.

00:28:27.100 Manhattan is a cesspool.

00:28:29.300 It is a cesspool because they denied the importance of leadership and character and vision and settled for celebrity airbrains to be their mayors.

00:28:43.840 It's just – it's madness what has happened to New York, and sometimes the process is the result.

00:28:50.500 Are you implying with that celebrity hit that Eric Adams is not made of the same stuff of Rudy Giuliani back in the 90s?

00:28:56.440 Are you implying that, Lou Dobbs?

00:28:59.300 Steve, you know me well enough to know better than – to think that I would be nuanced in any – anyway.

00:29:05.160 We're talking with Steve Bannon.

00:29:06.540 We're going to take another quick break.

00:29:07.840 Please stay with us.

00:29:09.320 This is too good to miss.

00:29:10.700 We're back with The War Room.

00:29:19.320 Steve Bannon.

00:29:20.220 Steve, it's great to talk to you.

00:29:22.560 It's a highly enjoyable conversation because I know one thing.

00:29:27.120 You and I always think and consider for only one purpose, and that is to take action,

00:29:34.000 to actually lay forward a path to the country's future.

00:29:39.860 We've lost perhaps its destiny for a while, but we are regaining much of its future.

00:29:45.180 I believe we have that opportunity in 2024.

00:29:48.040 How do we get Donald Trump not only into the White House, but how do we get enough people organized around him,

00:29:59.040 his vision, his thoughts, his philosophy?

00:30:01.940 And by the way, I've got to say one thing in the midst of this.

00:30:04.320 Vivek Ramasamy, who I think is a smart young fellow, and really provocative in much of what he's saying,

00:30:14.220 trying to take America first away from Donald Trump.

00:30:18.600 Did you hear that?

00:30:19.740 I mean, it was implausible to me.

00:30:22.320 I haven't heard this.

00:30:24.700 I know Vivek is a good guy, but I'm not a fan.

00:30:28.160 I'm definitely not a fan.

00:30:29.620 Well, I am no longer – I was never a fan, but I at least wanted to listen to him.

00:30:35.680 But he decided that America first didn't belong to one man, as he put it.

00:30:39.900 That one man could only be the one man who adopted the slogan, and that is Donald Trump, of course.

00:30:46.580 And that's the kind of superciliousness, speciousness, and just unnecessary nonsense that kills a candidacy.

00:30:55.620 And he killed his candidacy for me.

00:30:59.100 He's a smart guy, and if he's half as effective as he seems he might be, there might be a place for him in an administration.

00:31:06.700 But, my gosh.

00:31:09.180 And the next thing we've got –

00:31:10.300 No, but I think this shows you – look, the Trump – the only way that we're going to save this country right now is with Donald Trump.

00:31:20.720 And I say this to people out there that if you mention his name or hear the sound of his voice, you wince.

00:31:28.080 If you look at the facts as they stand today, this country is on the precipice financially, geopolitically, with this leviathan of the administrative state that's really taken over what the founders and framers have set up as a limited government for this country.

00:31:46.880 And Trump is the only one that understands it, has taken it on, and they fear.

00:31:54.580 All these other – what I call the Keebler elves.

00:31:56.920 And Vivek's done a good job of pushing forward some of the America First and some of the MAGA policies, right?

00:32:01.760 But that's a long way – given just some light conversation about it, it's a long way from actually having to strap in and get it done.

00:32:08.680 So Donald Trump is a – and I think he's been – I think the divine providence is working through him.

00:32:16.060 And I say that as someone that had a close-up view of 2016 and 2017.

00:32:22.760 So I think that we've got our instrument.

00:32:26.740 The purpose we have to have now is not to continue playing to what the mainstream media wants is a horse race.

00:32:32.700 George Wilt said today the mainstream media wants a horse race, and they're going to anoint somebody that's not Trump or not DeSantis and get him back on.

00:32:40.660 And what George Wilt doesn't understand, because he doesn't understand modern communications, it's so out of touch.

00:32:45.600 He still thinks Fox and some of these things are important.

00:32:48.020 As long as war room's there, there's no chance anybody can get momentum.

00:32:51.920 We're just not.

00:32:53.020 We just won't allow it.

00:32:54.240 And we won't allow it for one simple reason.

00:32:56.640 The country is in a crisis, and we don't have time for happy talk.

00:33:00.820 We don't have time to play the big media's game.

00:33:03.900 We only have time to save our country.

00:33:06.600 And that's what so disturbs me about this, quote-unquote, primary.

00:33:09.960 They're going to spend $500 million and divert a ton of Trump's time and resources to dealing with it when we don't have time to deal with it. 0.87

00:33:16.980 The Democrats understand this.

00:33:19.460 Until they make a decision to change out Biden, and I think they'll do that before the end of the year, there's no primary.

00:33:27.380 I mean, there's no primary.

00:33:28.680 There's no debate.

00:33:29.340 You know, he's not having to worry about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. or Winsor or anybody.

00:33:33.100 There's no – they literally said there is no primary.

00:33:35.600 You're not going to be on a ballot.

00:33:36.880 You're not going to be – there's no Super Tuesday.

00:33:39.560 They're not going to do Iowa.

00:33:41.140 There's not happening.

00:33:42.640 Now, eventually, when he decides or they move him out, that will be different of how they have some sort of complicated affair between Michelle Obama and Newsom and Whitmer 0.50

00:33:51.340 and let's throw Phil Murphy in there and Pritzker and a couple of three others, right?

00:33:54.940 But they know how to run – they know how to run something.

00:33:59.000 And they know because it's all focused on the general election.

00:34:02.160 And right now, you have these evil billionaires that are putting in literally hundreds of millions of dollars to build an election infrastructure.

00:34:10.100 That is going to be very tough to overcome, and that should be our maniacal focus right now.

00:34:15.320 It should be victory and then what happens the day after victory.

00:34:19.100 And that can all be organized.

00:34:20.560 And it's somewhat being organized today, but we're allowing the donors and the established media of the RINOs to really try to divert our attention on something that doesn't exist,

00:34:32.400 and that is this primary for the Republican nomination.

00:34:38.440 President Trump's going to Iowa State Fair this week, and I think that's fantastic.

00:34:43.380 Spend time in Iowa.

00:34:44.540 They are great people.

00:34:45.360 But Trump's going to win Iowa by seven or eight points.

00:34:49.580 Where Trump needs to be spending time is in Georgia, in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, now, Arizona, time and time again.

00:35:00.080 As we speak right now, Lou, in the late afternoon on Tuesday, the 8th of August, where is Joe Biden?

00:35:06.600 Joe Biden happens to be in Arizona.

00:35:08.580 He's spending the entire day here, and he's dropping goodies all over the place,

00:35:11.640 all kind of new money he's, you know, taking from the taxpayers and plowing into this state.

00:35:16.580 He's up at the Grand Canyon taking a million acres, I think, and putting it into a new national monument there,

00:35:23.800 but taking away from the mining industry for uranium, so we're more dependent than ever on the Russians for our nuclear power,

00:35:32.240 for our submarines and for our nuclear power plants.

00:35:34.900 But Biden's people are putting him in strategic locations of where he needs to make sure that they can steal it again in 2024.

00:35:44.820 So right now, to me, one of the big focuses is to shut down this primary and not have, particularly with President Trump,

00:35:52.040 being somewhat diverted by this lawfare.

00:35:54.160 And the resources it's sucking up and the time it's sucking up is a massive opportunity cost.

00:36:00.180 Merrick Garland knows that.

00:36:01.400 Jack Smith knows that.

00:36:02.740 And Joe Biden, above all, knows that.

00:36:04.400 And so that's why we've got to get enormously focused right now on victory.

00:36:08.420 When you say we have to get focused, it means Donald Trump has to get focused,

00:36:12.620 because from him, all will spring.

00:36:16.180 And right now, he doesn't have the taste for it.

00:36:19.440 He doesn't like it.

00:36:20.620 He has to get serious about the organizing principles that have to be put into action right now.

00:36:29.140 And staffed at the senior level, staffed throughout the country in every locality and precinct, as far as I'm concerned, in the country.

00:36:39.440 And I'm not talking about just poll watchers and working through the elections.

00:36:45.900 I'm talking about persistent, stable and sustainable organization at the local level for America first, for make America great.

00:36:57.300 And it's got to happen.

00:36:59.020 But it's got to happen before that election.

00:37:01.880 And there is no sign whatsoever to me.

00:37:05.840 I cannot.

00:37:06.640 It's not visible to me if it's happening at all.

00:37:09.020 And the one thing that we do know about what you're saying, Steve, is the Democrat is Democratic choices for 2024 are purely theatrical,

00:37:19.460 because we know that Obama and the senior cabal of the Marxist Dems who drive the Democratic Party and this regime will simply, you know, they're interchangeable.

00:37:30.900 The characters they put up as figureheads.

00:37:33.340 I mean, does anyone in the world think that Joe Biden is actually running the thought processes and decisions that make up his administration?

00:37:42.800 I don't think so.

00:37:44.460 Do you?

00:37:45.900 It certainly doesn't.

00:37:48.360 It certainly doesn't look like it.

00:37:49.560 No, it does not look like it.

00:37:50.720 It does not come across like that on every aspect, whether it's Ukraine, the economy.

00:37:56.520 He, I think, barely knows where he is at any day.

00:37:59.640 So the people behind him making these decisions, and, of course, these people are very anti-American.

00:38:05.820 You can tell that from the decisions they're making.

00:38:08.080 Yeah, no question about it.

00:38:10.420 You know, Steve, I've enjoyed tremendously, as always, our conversation, and I hope you'll come back soon.

00:38:17.060 It's a tough time, but I think people have to look clear-eyed and straightforwardly at what we have to do.

00:38:24.960 And it can't be done without vast organization that is the, you know, is one of the many expertises that doesn't exist within Republican leadership.

00:38:37.280 Ronna McDaniel, why is she still there?

00:38:41.960 She's still there.

00:38:43.060 More importantly than her, as important as she's still being there, she's still there with $7 million net cash on hand.

00:38:51.180 And the Democrats have hundreds.

00:38:52.420 I mean, it's just, it's a disaster.

00:38:54.540 The grassroots have kind of cut her off from giving money.

00:38:58.660 Big donors, essentially, are not there.

00:39:01.040 It's very disorganized.

00:39:02.260 I think there are five or six state parties that are bankrupt.

00:39:05.060 And what most upsets me, and President Trump, let's face it, he kind of backed her.

00:39:11.580 Oh, he did.

00:39:12.540 She's the, I just wanted to say that politely.

00:39:16.400 He backed her, and his reward for her backing is that she's the one driving this debate.

00:39:24.140 She's driving these serious debates. 1.00

00:39:26.280 And my good friend, Dave Bossy, I know he's a good friend of yours, Dave Bossy, he's like a brother to me.

00:39:31.160 You know, he's the debate guy.

00:39:33.040 And I just don't get it.

00:39:34.420 I mean, I don't get, you know, President Trump.

00:39:37.760 Look, Biden.

00:39:39.120 Is Dave still taking your calls?

00:39:41.040 Is Dave taking your calls?

00:39:44.720 I'm not giving him the option of taking them because I'm not making them.

00:39:47.860 I am quite angry at this because this is a diversion.

00:39:55.100 This gets the media all worked up.

00:39:56.560 Here's what the media, George Will says something very important.

00:39:59.800 That the media wants a horse race because they don't like dealing with policy.

00:40:03.400 It's too complicated for them.

00:40:04.300 These people are not particularly bright.

00:40:05.400 They want a simple horse race, and they will try to gin up somebody after the fall of the Santas, somebody to compete against Trump.

00:40:15.360 Well, the way they can do that is to put on a series of debates, and it's not – they're not going to win.

00:40:21.100 All it's going to do is suck up about a billion – 500 million to a billion dollars of cash from people that should be going to these organizations, outside groups that can help us win in 2024.

00:40:31.380 This is a diversion we don't – and the keyboard elves, there's no traction.

00:40:35.940 All the polls show Trump at 59, Trump at 61, Trump at 55.

00:40:40.340 These are – it's not competitive.

00:40:42.260 He's the presumptive nominee.

00:40:44.220 It's time just to get on with it.

00:40:45.740 And Iran has been a disaster everywhere. 1.00

00:40:49.340 The one thing she's hanging on is running these debates. 0.88

00:40:52.120 And under no circumstances can President Trump – can President Trump get into these debates.

00:40:56.680 So it's just –

00:40:57.680 Absolutely not.

00:40:59.260 Absolutely not.

00:41:00.120 And the only thing – to your point about the money, the only people making money on this are the television networks, the cable networks, and the – of course, the remaining newspaper media.

00:41:14.960 It drives ratings.

00:41:16.340 It drives subscriptions.

00:41:18.160 And that's it.

00:41:19.300 It doesn't – doesn't help one bit.

00:41:22.320 And as you say, very kindly, if I may harden it just a bit, there's only one man in the running, the man, and that is Donald Trump.

00:41:33.360 The rest are not even – remotely his shadows are reflective of anything that's a significant challenge to him.

00:41:42.120 We always give you –

00:41:43.420 I call them the Keebler elves.

00:41:45.260 They're the Keebler elves. 1.00

00:41:46.040 I love it, and I will adapt that, isn't I?

00:41:49.260 I will adapt to it and adopt it.

00:41:53.320 We always give you the last word.

00:41:55.340 Our guests always get the last word on this show.

00:41:57.960 If you would, Steve, your concluding thoughts.

00:42:01.980 I'm a huge fan of the show, huge fan of Lou Dobbs.

00:42:04.980 Always honored to come on here and talk to your audience, Lou, and keep fighting.

00:42:10.140 And since you didn't pick it on air, I'll come back to you with my proposal, either chief of staff, head of the National Economic Council, which is the power place outside the NSC, inside the West Wing, or secretary of treasury.

00:42:23.640 Eventually, we're going to get you to head the Federal Reserve, but I think we're going to get you to the treasury first.

00:42:28.400 You know, the only –

00:42:29.560 You know what, it's actually selfish for me to push you to be treasury, because I haven't told you.

00:42:36.300 I'm going to option the TV rights to your confirmation hearing as a secretary of treasury, because that will be must-watch TV.

00:42:46.220 Well, I tell you what would be even more watch TV would be my first decision is at either treasury or the Federal Reserve.

00:42:52.840 And I might want to then walk over to the Department of Education and work wonders there as well.

00:43:00.820 You know, I would – I'm flattered by the thought, but my wife is sitting about 20 feet away from me as we're talking. 0.59

00:43:07.780 And she is waving me off.

00:43:10.400 She's doing the throat thing, suggesting to me that I'm probably going to be unemployed in whatever administration it is.

00:43:19.040 But I will be a fierce spirit in support of America First and President Trump.

00:43:25.620 Only – hang on.

00:43:27.040 Only to get the reaction to the Democrats in your confirmation hearing would be worth the whole effort, right?

00:43:33.660 It would be – that would be collective group meltdown.

00:43:36.720 So –

00:43:36.760 Now you're – now as you well know, you're starting to tempt me.

00:43:42.380 Steve Bannon, thank you so much.

00:43:44.040 God bless you.

00:43:44.760 Thanks for being with us.

00:43:46.220 Thank you, sir.

00:43:46.780 Always honored.

00:43:47.220 Thanks, everybody, and thanks, Steve Bannon, a great American and a great friend.

00:43:52.580 Tomorrow, we return with our weekly foreign policy panel, the great Gordon Chang and Tony Schaefer.

00:43:58.540 Joe Biden, after two and a half years as a puppet president, finally restricting U.S. investments in China.

00:44:05.160 The first time, to my knowledge, that he's ever gone against the Chinese.

00:44:09.920 Biden citing national security concerns.

00:44:12.840 Biden also looking to send some more money to Ukraine, of course.

00:44:15.700 We take up all of that and much more here tomorrow.

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00:44:29.500 We hope you'll join us here tomorrow.

00:44:31.380 Till then, thanks.

00:44:32.540 God bless you.

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The Great America Show - August 10, 2023

IT’S TRUMP AND MAGA RISING

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