The Great America Show - October 09, 2022


J-6 IS A CONTINUING WITCH HUNT, FBI STILL ARRESTING AMERICANS & ALMOST 2 YEARS OF PRE-TRIAL DETENTION IS ON ITS FACE UNCONSTITUTIONAL


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

148.81609

Word Count

5,933

Sentence Count

396

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

In this episode, Lou Dobbs is joined by Joe McBride, an attorney who represents a number of January 6th defendants, including Richard Barnett, Adam Jackson, and Ryan Nichols. They discuss the process of their release from prison, and how they are being treated in the judicial system.


Transcript

00:00:00.200 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for joining us. I'm
00:00:04.620 Lou Dobbs, and thrilled to have you with us. As you know, I'm not a fan of this impaired
00:00:09.340 puppet president of ours, nor the destructive agenda that he's been ordered to pursue by
00:00:14.600 his Marxist dim masters, or his outright corruption and allegiance with the deep state. He's nothing
00:00:21.760 more than a tool, and what a pathetic figure he is, and how embarrassing that we allowed
00:00:27.940 this man to take control of our government, and permitted the world to think we were actually
00:00:33.460 stupid enough to have voted for him for president. And now we have less than a month of the most
00:00:39.720 important midterm elections in our country's history, the survival of this great republic
00:00:45.020 hanging in the balance. Either we win, or the Marxist dims and deep state will claim this nation
00:00:52.000 as their own Marxist state, and America will be simply a passing historical curiosity.
00:00:59.880 We're so very close to that tragic turn of history. The Marxist dims have already secured
00:01:05.100 so much power that they control almost all of the federal government. The House, the Senate,
00:01:10.460 the White House, and of course, the permanent bureaucracy across all of government. And now,
00:01:16.440 the seventh year of the Marxist dims political persecution of President Donald Trump underway.
00:01:23.120 Their Stalinist inquisition that they call the January 6th committee, and the Marxist left's
00:01:29.120 taking of almost a thousand political prisoners, American citizens, all of them. The Department of
00:01:35.820 Justice and FBI trampling their constitutional rights, as our Republican Party and veterans groups
00:01:42.640 and others, are simply watching and doing nothing to free our fellow citizens from what has become
00:01:48.920 the Washington, D.C. Gulag. Many imprisoned there without trial for more than a year and a half.
00:01:56.600 It is a national disgrace. One of the American citizens fighting for these victims of the Marxist
00:02:03.120 dims is attorney Joe McBride. Joe represents a number of January 6th defendants. He's working tirelessly
00:02:10.320 for those defendants. And Joe, great to have you back with us here on the Great America Show.
00:02:15.440 I know you're working hard for your clients. You're in court fighting for them. Bring us up to date
00:02:20.340 on where you are, where your clients are in the legal process, and how those defendants are being
00:02:26.020 treated, their health, and where your clients are in the judicial process.
00:02:32.480 So thank you, Lou. It is good to be here. Thank you for your continued
00:02:36.140 important work in your patriotism, love of God,
00:02:40.860 love of country. It's
00:02:42.440 continuing to be inspiring, and it's very much appreciated
00:02:46.700 by myself and everyone who's in my life.
00:02:50.620 That's very kind of you. Thank you.
00:02:52.220 You're most welcome. So with regard to
00:02:55.420 Richard Barnett, big old Barnett, he is
00:02:58.640 currently out. He's on pre-trial release.
00:03:01.460 It's trial scheduled for, I believe, the 12th of December. Daniel Goodwin, a client I represent who has
00:03:08.460 Asperger's, he is going to be going to trial end of February. Then we have
00:03:18.060 Ryan Nichols. He is currently incarcerated. Mr. Nichols is in Washington, D.C. at the D.C. jail,
00:03:27.680 the D.C. Gulag. We recently filed a habeas petition in his case. His trial is scheduled for
00:03:35.600 April at this point, and that's because of us. We asked for that long adjournment. We asked for time.
00:03:41.980 I can explain that later. Christopher Quaglin just appeared in his case just a few moments ago.
00:03:48.820 He is in Northern Neck Regional Jail. We have filed the habeas petition for release in his case.
00:03:54.020 His trial is scheduled to happen sometime in March.
00:03:59.700 And, well, no, sorry, Quaglin in April, Nichols in March. And then Adam Jackson, he was out.
00:04:09.060 He was out for over 18 months. Recently arrested on June 9th in Texas. FBI came and raided him and
00:04:15.940 picked him up. We argued for his release yesterday. We're waiting for a decision to come down from the
00:04:20.880 court. We feel confident that he'll be able to go back home with his family members. That is,
00:04:27.320 with regard to my criminal clients, the most recent update possible.
00:04:32.480 And Jackson has been in custody for three, it sounds like three months, about.
00:04:40.480 And this is taking, it seems, just such a long time. Is that purposeful? Is it just simply the
00:04:48.700 caseload? What is the reason for the slowness of this process?
00:04:54.860 The criminal justice system is notoriously slow. It doesn't look at the human being.
00:05:01.760 It just looks at the docket numbers. When people are called up from the prison, they don't even
00:05:08.360 refer to them as people. They actually call them bodies. It's the entire thing is a dehumanizing
00:05:15.160 process. And Adam Jackson was out. He was out for 18 months. He went home after January 6th,
00:05:23.440 really didn't do anything bad or crazy that day at all. And after all this time, they came and they
00:05:29.040 picked him up like he was, you know, some kind of most wanted terrorist. They ripped him from his
00:05:34.180 family, from his job, from his wife, from his kids, from his grandkids. It's a, it's travesty. And in order
00:05:40.680 to argue for his continued detention, they brought up some arch from 1997 that was ultimately dismissed
00:05:51.520 against him. But the fact that they're digging back to 1997, some 25 years ago, to somehow say that he
00:05:58.200 is, he presents a future danger to society is just ridiculous. It's uncorroborated by the last 20 years
00:06:05.980 of his life. And that's a little, I mean, that's a little skewed. They don't look at what he, what he is
00:06:14.500 in his community, what he is to his family, whether or not he's employed, working, and building a life for
00:06:21.600 himself and his family. Well, they, the, the court heard those arguments. I made those arguments to
00:06:27.260 the court yesterday. Unfortunately, before I came on the case, it doesn't appear that the magistrate
00:06:34.020 in Texas gave his case due consideration. He was just sort of, well, you know, you shouldn't have did
00:06:40.140 what you did. And now you're going in and good luck to you. It's unfortunate, but I was able to tell
00:06:46.600 his story yesterday in court and explain to the judge who he is and what he's been doing with
00:06:52.980 his life. And while he, the reasons why he should be released, he's a member of his community. He's
00:06:58.800 a grandfather. He's a father. He's a businessman. He's a football coach. He's an avid churchgoer.
00:07:02.940 He doesn't get in trouble. He has respect for the law. Yes. He had some contacts with the criminal
00:07:07.000 justice system as a youth, but he since redeemed himself. That in and of itself is a great thing.
00:07:13.220 So on and so forth. I think that our arguments resonated with the court. Obviously, I can't
00:07:19.200 make any presumptions as to how the judge is going to come out on this, but we're hopeful that that
00:07:24.900 will be successful and that he could be released as early as this week. Wow. We have talked numerous
00:07:32.920 times over the course of this sad journey for some 850. That's only an estimate, 850 Americans
00:07:41.840 ensnared in this political persecution. Is there any sign that the judges are being more humanitarian,
00:07:54.080 are being any less ideological, and any more considerate of the prisoners, their families,
00:08:03.060 and the law, and the context of all of this? No, there's no really overt sign of that happening.
00:08:16.700 I think that generally, when you look at the context of what happened on January 6th, there were bad
00:08:25.880 actors, there were good actors, and there were people who got caught up in between. What we're trying
00:08:31.560 to do is to use the fact that we can now look back in hindsight, and we have a lot of information
00:08:36.800 about who did what, and we could distinguish people more easily now than we could have a year ago.
00:08:41.920 So that's one line of argument that we're using. Another line of argument that we're using is that
00:08:45.960 this is a continued witch hunt. People are still being arrested. Discovery is still being
00:08:50.640 disseminated to people almost two years later. The length of these cases, it makes pretrial
00:08:57.320 detainment on its face unconstitutional. And then when you factor in the recent raid of Mar-a-Lago,
00:09:04.940 that is obvious government's punitive government overreach. It's the political targeting
00:09:11.160 of somebody who's a former president, and also likely going to be the Republican nominee
00:09:17.540 going into the next election. And the way that that was conducted, the way that that was handled,
00:09:24.600 I don't think that that sat right or sits right with any reasonable person in this country.
00:09:30.660 And that type of government overreach is something that we've been talking about with our clients
00:09:35.260 since Jump Street. But now that they're actually doing it and showing it to President Trump,
00:09:41.600 our claims aren't so far-fetched anymore. So we were able to point to that to say, hey, look,
00:09:46.880 this is what we've been talking about. It's ridiculous. And now it's happening to him.
00:09:50.320 And this further complicates our cases. It further complicates the ability to get a fair
00:09:55.400 jury trial. And because of that, you know, we ask for release in conjunction with the other things
00:10:01.220 that we've been talking about.
00:10:03.420 And the treatment of these incarcerated citizens,
00:10:09.860 they've been treated horribly. Is there a petition of grievance of some sort
00:10:17.360 and record of the way they've been treated in these prisons, jails, what the Bureau of Prisons
00:10:25.160 is doing? And is there any legal action that can be taken to stop this inhumane treatment?
00:10:35.940 Yes, that's a great question, Lou. We have two habeas petitions filed so far on behalf of the
00:10:43.460 clients I represent. One on behalf of Ryan Nichols that was just filed over the past few weeks.
00:10:49.680 One that was filed a few months ago on behalf of Christopher Quaglin.
00:10:54.560 They talk about similar things. For instance, one of the grounds that we allege is deliberate
00:11:02.000 indifference to an underlying medical condition. We argue that in the case of Christopher Quaglin,
00:11:07.500 that he has lifelong celiac disease. He's highly allergic to wheat and gluten. And the jail,
00:11:17.020 this jail and the jails that he's been in beforehand, have miserably failed in their ability
00:11:22.880 to either, number one, feed him celiac-safe food purposefully. Number two, they just give him
00:11:27.540 non-celiac-safe food and don't care. Or number three, they have no awareness, situational awareness
00:11:32.760 about cross-contamination. And it's like a peanut allergy. You know, you can't have peanuts in school
00:11:37.620 anymore because it can kill a kid. And it's the same thing with celiac disease. If something's
00:11:42.560 cross-contaminated, he can't eat it. And he has been labeled a problem child and passed around from
00:11:49.460 jail to jail to jail. But the problem is not because of him. They, you know, they took him on and they
00:11:55.920 kept him in knowing that he had this condition. And they've been reckless and negligent and deliberately
00:12:02.160 indifferent to his condition to the point where he is. And I just, I just seen him in court. He's
00:12:07.080 down 45 pounds. He looks like somebody who's been starving because he has been starving. He has
00:12:13.940 been subsisting on protein bars that he has to pay for from his commissary.
00:12:20.600 What state is he from?
00:12:22.020 He's from New Jersey.
00:12:23.800 And where is the congressional delegation in New Jersey? I know they're all Democrats. And that's
00:12:30.160 the reason I'm asking you, Joe. Where are they? And why aren't they representing their
00:12:35.740 citizens, irrespective of their political registration?
00:12:40.680 Yeah, that's, they don't care about him. Members of the Freedom Caucus, Marjorie Taylor
00:12:44.920 Green, Andy Biggs, Louie Gohmert, Troy Nels, some other members of Congress, Clay Higgins,
00:12:54.160 Matt Gaetz, have been very outspoken on behalf of Christopher Quaglin and some other people.
00:12:59.900 Thank God for them. But in terms of people up north, Democrats or these rhino Republicans,
00:13:05.560 they'd rather see him die than lift a finger to help him. And, you know, we...
00:13:10.740 Well, damn, damn their hides.
00:13:12.980 Yeah.
00:13:14.260 And why isn't the Republican Party standing up here?
00:13:17.880 Why isn't there a tremendous... You know, I've been asking you this question for so long.
00:13:24.320 I know it's repetitive beyond belief, but why won't the leaders of the Republican Party stand
00:13:31.960 up for these people? Why?
00:13:34.860 You know, they're members of what I would, you know, what people often call the Uniparty.
00:13:40.320 They have more in common. Nancy Pelosi certainly has more in common with Mitch McConnell than she
00:13:44.840 does with any of the guys I represent or Mitch McConnell for that matter.
00:13:48.400 So, you know, they're creatures of the swamp. They've been there for too long.
00:13:51.800 They don't care about anybody other than their own selfish interest.
00:13:55.800 And they are not representative of anything that has to do with their constituencies.
00:14:00.640 That is for certain.
00:14:01.940 I have great hope, though.
00:14:03.280 One of my clients and good friends, non-criminal clients, Alex Brusewitz, who works for X Strategies
00:14:12.140 out of Palm Beach with Derek Utley, they do really good work in terms of putting candidates
00:14:19.100 on the map who are America first and getting people through their consulting business to run
00:14:24.280 for meaningful positions in Congress.
00:14:26.220 And Corey Mills is running down for Congress in Florida.
00:14:31.240 J.R. Matuski, yeah, is running in Ohio.
00:14:36.300 You have, you know, Joe Kent and some other people that are running in other areas of the country.
00:14:42.440 And when you get people like them into Congress, they have already expressed their outrage and
00:14:50.080 their concern and some of the things that they're running on platform-wise in terms of putting
00:14:55.200 America first is to put the American citizen first and the idea that our Constitution applies
00:15:01.560 to everyone no matter what you've been accused of and that if the Constitution is not applied
00:15:06.580 to one person and falls apart for that person, it falls apart for all of us.
00:15:10.560 So I am confident in the future of the party and the eradication of the infectious disease
00:15:20.680 known as being a rhino.
00:15:23.000 It's going to take some time, but I do believe that in the next few years, we're going to
00:15:27.820 see a massive, we're already seeing it, but there's going to be a massive, massive shift
00:15:32.140 from what was and to what will be.
00:15:36.240 And that is an America first group of people who are in office, who care about our country
00:15:41.220 above any other country in the world and who care about the American citizen over any corporation
00:15:46.700 in the world, and because of that, America will be a better place.
00:15:53.140 I really, obviously, I really hope so.
00:15:57.700 I despair of the current leadership of the Republican Party that has a responsibility to stand up
00:16:05.180 for these people.
00:16:07.060 We're talking about over 800 Americans.
00:16:09.580 We're talking about somewhere near 100 that are still incarcerated, a justice system that
00:16:17.160 is corrupt to the bone, a judiciary that is not much better.
00:16:23.260 They do, in most instances, I'll say this, they're corrupt, but at least they have at least
00:16:30.680 tried, in other instances, to be responsible.
00:16:35.380 There is no longer a limit.
00:16:39.180 The chains are off, if you will, and the judges are as partisan and raw about it as one could
00:16:47.340 ever possibly have imagined in this country.
00:16:49.940 The Supreme Court is not doing anything.
00:16:52.300 They are witness to this just like I am, like the American people are, while you and others
00:16:59.340 are working to represent these people in the legal system, why in the world would the Supreme
00:17:05.400 Court reach out and down?
00:17:08.060 They don't have to be petitioned.
00:17:09.900 They see injustice.
00:17:11.660 They see wrong.
00:17:13.900 And they see evil.
00:17:15.460 And this is all of that.
00:17:17.320 It certainly is, you know, with every argument that we make, and certainly with every motion
00:17:24.700 that we write, we're doable.
00:17:28.120 We bake in cognizable, strong constitutional arguments with the hope that if we're denied,
00:17:36.080 that, you know, we can work our way up to the Supreme Court and get heard on a matter there.
00:17:41.100 You know, to anybody who's listening, if you're a part of an organization, left, right, middle,
00:17:46.620 center, wherever, and if you're inclined to get involved and file an amicus brief on one
00:17:51.740 of my client's behalf, please do that.
00:17:54.800 We just filed a habeas petition on behalf of Ryan Nichols.
00:17:59.240 Like Christopher Quagland, there's deliberate indifference to his underlying medical condition,
00:18:03.920 post-traumatic stress disorder related to his military service, you know, crazy amount
00:18:09.120 of time in solitary confinement, denial of medical care, denial of discovery, being driven
00:18:14.360 to suicide watch, he was made fun of when he was on suicide watch, encouraged to kill
00:18:18.640 himself.
00:18:19.120 It's wrong.
00:18:19.880 It's manifestly unjust.
00:18:21.340 It's fundamentally wrong.
00:18:22.640 It's un-American.
00:18:23.760 It should not be happening.
00:18:25.540 We are working overtime to raise the alarm and to set forth meaningful litigation with
00:18:34.360 regard to the rights of pretrial detainees.
00:18:37.500 So these cases are right for amicus briefs.
00:18:40.800 If there's an organization out there that wants to step in and say, hey, we object, we
00:18:45.640 believe that there is a strong public interest in the, you know, constitutional rights for
00:18:52.140 pretrial detainees and for the Constitution to be upheld for all, and because of that, we
00:18:57.780 want to get involved, then I would encourage them to do that.
00:19:00.800 And, Lou, with regard to what you said about these Republicans in office, we were filming
00:19:07.340 the other day.
00:19:08.400 I had Bonnie Nichols and Don Nichols as Ryan's wife and father in town, and we were putting
00:19:15.240 together something that we're going to release to the public about Ryan's story, so on and
00:19:20.500 so forth, and we had come across a video of a congressman who was asked about, you know,
00:19:29.940 January 6th detainees and has he helped and what's his position on it, so on and so forth.
00:19:35.340 That congressman's name is Dan Crenshaw, and he basically said to the person who was asking,
00:19:42.800 well, what do you want me to do?
00:19:44.360 Like, I'm really not in a position of power to help anyone, and there's really not much
00:19:49.200 I can do about it, like, people can go down to the jail, and they can, like, put on this
00:19:53.180 show, put on this act, but it's really meaningless, like, what am I supposed to do?
00:19:56.840 I have no power, and I saw that video, and we played it for, you know, we played it for
00:20:04.920 Bonnie Nichols, and we got her reaction on video, and you have to see, it was an honest reaction
00:20:12.580 of a Texas woman whose husband is a Marine Corps veteran, serves with honor and distinction,
00:20:19.200 who's trapped in the gulag with PTSD pre-trial.
00:20:23.200 Here's a sitting member of Congress from Texas.
00:20:26.840 Louie Gohmert has helped tremendously, but that's Louie, Ryan's Louie's constituent, but
00:20:31.660 Bonnie was raised out in Houston where Dan Crenshaw is from, and when she saw that, she
00:20:41.560 just absolutely lost it.
00:20:43.100 It was just exactly how you would feel and or expect an honest wife who loves her husband,
00:20:52.280 who loves this country, and who believes in her representatives.
00:20:55.780 When she saw that this guy, a, you know, retired Navy SEAL who is supposed to be a patriot and
00:21:03.580 somebody who loves this country, and say, look into the camera, look at the guy and say,
00:21:08.580 well, what can I do?
00:21:09.320 I have no power.
00:21:11.140 I mean, she lost it, and other people should lose it as well, because if people who are
00:21:17.780 representing us in Congress, if that's their position, I'm powerless to do anything against
00:21:22.260 the torture of pre-trial detainees, then you shouldn't be in office.
00:21:25.780 It's a disgrace.
00:21:28.140 It is a disgrace, and I may say even more a disgrace, because Crenshaw is a veteran.
00:21:38.660 Riddle, I mean, Nichols is a veteran.
00:21:41.520 Where are the veterans groups?
00:21:43.660 Why aren't they all over this?
00:21:47.600 It's a good question.
00:21:50.160 Some guys...
00:21:51.400 You know what?
00:21:51.980 I'm asking you an impossible question to answer, so I'm going to answer it in part myself.
00:21:57.540 We're going to find out why they're not doing more, and we're going to find out why men and
00:22:07.340 women who have served their country, who are patriots and have proved, if you will, why they're
00:22:15.140 being treated like this, why any American citizen is being treated like this.
00:22:18.880 This is a, what, three hours on Capitol Hill.
00:22:24.820 A lot of people made a lot of mistakes, but what happened in the summer of 2020, those weren't
00:22:31.040 mistakes.
00:22:31.640 That was intentional.
00:22:33.200 That was arson.
00:22:34.660 That was destruction of billions of dollars of property.
00:22:38.200 That was the taking of American lives.
00:22:40.940 It was attacks on the United States government, local governments across the country, communities,
00:22:51.120 and nothing was done.
00:22:53.540 There was no prosecution.
00:22:55.620 And you know what?
00:22:56.240 Most people have forgotten that there was no prosecution, that there were no arrests in
00:23:02.180 almost absolute terms, and to see this because it's a political, partisan, Soviet-style show
00:23:11.120 trial, series of trials, is outrageous.
00:23:16.120 Am I wrong?
00:23:18.060 No.
00:23:18.640 You are absolutely right.
00:23:21.300 I think that one of the things that people should do, especially like somebody like Bonnie
00:23:28.560 Nichols, she's a strong, beautiful, patriotic woman, a husband to a veteran, and a good,
00:23:37.260 wonderful mother and daughter, businesswoman, so on and so forth.
00:23:41.820 She's angry.
00:23:42.920 She's talented.
00:23:44.220 She's a powerful speaker.
00:23:45.860 She's unafraid.
00:23:47.600 She should run for office.
00:23:48.780 She should run directly against somebody like Dan Crenshaw or directly against somebody
00:23:54.700 else and make her way into Congress.
00:23:57.360 And I would encourage your listeners and other people as well in this country not to underestimate
00:24:02.940 their God-given abilities, not to underestimate their God-given talents, and to run for office
00:24:09.840 at every level.
00:24:11.720 When you think about what happened with the election and other things, we learned, and certainly
00:24:18.760 what's happening in schools, we learned that government is important from the most
00:24:23.220 local level to the top of the presidency, that government is important all the way through,
00:24:30.620 and that people should run for office.
00:24:35.600 Offices are important at the local, the municipal, the school level, and going up the food chain.
00:24:41.860 And in particular, whoever runs for the presidency next, which obviously I believe it will be
00:24:47.900 Donald Trump, part of that platform needs to be, and I think will be, that whoever gets
00:24:56.660 to become the 47th president of the United States should weaken the office of the presidency
00:25:03.020 itself.
00:25:03.740 And I don't mean that in a non-America-first way or a non-leadership way.
00:25:07.860 I mean that because the office of the United States president has become vastly more powerful
00:25:13.920 than it was ever meant to be.
00:25:15.700 It is running with unchecked power.
00:25:18.580 Other coordinate branches of government are powerless to stop it.
00:25:22.200 It's supposed to be a co-equal branch and separate branch of the government, not a branch
00:25:27.000 of government that dominates the other two.
00:25:28.820 I take your point, but I have to say something, Joe.
00:25:35.180 Yes.
00:25:35.700 This is an illegitimate president using power in ways that the founders never imagined.
00:25:42.140 It's a constant and daily abuse of power by him, by the Marxist-DEM members of his administration.
00:25:48.520 They are carrying out an agenda.
00:25:50.280 There are no accidents, coincidences, and coincidences in this administration.
00:25:57.820 This is an evil gathering on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and what they're doing to the country
00:26:08.820 is not forgivable, and it's not over.
00:26:12.720 And they have cheated President Trump out of the office.
00:26:22.060 They changed history.
00:26:23.000 By the way, they and William Barr and the list goes on, 51 intelligence officials.
00:26:29.320 I just want everybody in this audience to always be straight about this.
00:26:34.220 This is not, under any circumstance whatsoever, an accident what we are witnessing, what we're bearing.
00:26:41.640 And, Joe, I know people, we're talking about your clients, but I've got to tell you, we've got perhaps millions of Americans right now who are dispirited.
00:26:52.800 They are sick of what they're witnessing in this country.
00:26:56.900 And that is exactly what this administration and the Marxist-DEMs who lead them wanted.
00:27:03.880 They want the patriots to be crestfallen, to be any feeling of hopelessness or helplessness they can instill, they will,
00:27:15.900 by their thuggery, by their cheating, their lying, their deceit,
00:27:21.780 and pummeling President Trump as a target.
00:27:26.760 This is to have the Justice Department now going after him with a national archivist.
00:27:32.300 Can you imagine this?
00:27:33.660 Giving a national archivist the power to seize the president's documents
00:27:39.640 when the only basis for seizing those documents would be that they were classified material,
00:27:44.440 which the president had declassified.
00:27:46.420 We are watching the law of this country be shredded.
00:27:52.340 The Constitution itself is under assault daily, and it cannot stand if we do not have patriots who will stand for it.
00:28:01.180 And we are seeing them dwindle in number and diminish in courage.
00:28:06.240 And by the way, I'm not blaming them.
00:28:09.240 This is tough times.
00:28:10.800 This is a time for people to be rock-solid and understand what this country is and who your fellow citizens are.
00:28:19.660 We have to prevail.
00:28:21.540 This is not an option.
00:28:23.520 We have to prevail, and we have to do it now, and we have to cut the nonsense.
00:28:28.240 This is an evil president, an evil White House, and an evil court system.
00:28:34.620 We have permitted corruption, political corruption, throughout our courts.
00:28:38.120 The legal profession itself is filled with left-wing activists rather than patriots and citizens who want to first respect law and order and the rights of their fellow citizens.
00:28:53.400 This is an ugly time in America, and we have to prevail.
00:28:58.800 I agree with you wholeheartedly, Lou.
00:29:01.000 I mean, what you said right now should be broadcasted across every channel and every social media platform and put on a loop for the next week, as far as I'm concerned.
00:29:11.440 You're right.
00:29:12.520 And the reason why somebody like Ryan Nichols went to his first political protest in his life on January 6th was because he felt that in his heart that what had happened, you know, was wrong, that the election was in fact stolen.
00:29:27.560 And the underlying reason for going in to protest the government for political redress of grievances and to say, hey, don't certify this election, it's fraudulent.
00:29:37.580 People were afraid that if an unelected president got in power, if a president who had sold out to foreign interests got in power, that this person would destroy the country.
00:29:48.660 That he would weaponize the police power, that he would drive the economy into the ground, that he would do stuff to the, you know, to the Constitution.
00:29:58.300 And, you know, all of those concerns are we now live with those as a part of our daily reality.
00:30:05.400 I mean, we don't need to speculate anymore.
00:30:08.320 We understand that there are people in power who are not interested in the Constitution or the American citizen for that matter.
00:30:17.920 And that is why I am encouraging people to run for office.
00:30:22.820 I mean it.
00:30:23.900 You can run for office.
00:30:25.920 You can win.
00:30:27.160 You can get people behind you at whatever, you know, if you're a farmer and what's going on with the crops and the attack on the farming industry.
00:30:37.460 If that's your thing, run for whatever office is there.
00:30:40.640 And if you live in an urban community and it's more related to school and what's being taught there and masking, whatever, run for office there.
00:30:49.560 Run for office.
00:30:51.140 Get involved.
00:30:52.320 Don't doubt yourself.
00:30:54.220 Don't doubt your ability to make a difference.
00:30:56.620 You can do something.
00:30:58.420 You can make a difference.
00:30:59.540 And if you're not inclined to run yourself, then figure out who's running in your area, who supports your values, and go support them.
00:31:07.920 Meet with them.
00:31:09.040 Organize on their behalf.
00:31:10.780 Give to them if you can.
00:31:12.080 And make sure that we get people into every office in this country who put America first before anything and anyone else in the world.
00:31:23.940 Absolutely.
00:31:24.580 And in that spirit, I want to be certain that I ask you right now to bring on with you, as soon as possible, the wives, whether it's Reynolds, whomever it is.
00:31:43.120 I would like them to come on the air and tell the story in their terms about what has happened to them and their spouses.
00:31:55.220 And these are stories the American people need to know.
00:31:58.360 And I have to say, I don't believe that enough of these stories are getting out, if any of them are getting out.
00:32:05.380 And I don't know if the audience of this podcast has the stomach to listen to the awful fate of these people.
00:32:18.480 But I think we need to all hear it.
00:32:21.800 And I would like, if I can ask you to do that, to start with your clients, and we will spread it beyond that.
00:32:31.320 And we're going to be asking questions of the veterans organizations about why they're not doing more.
00:32:38.180 And I am doing so because those veterans deserve that.
00:32:43.960 And I'm doing it.
00:32:45.540 We're doing all of this for every American citizen.
00:32:49.080 Our fellow citizens deserve no less.
00:32:51.540 This has gone on beyond my wildest imagining, Joe.
00:32:55.320 I never dreamed we'd be talking here in August about this with your clients still incarcerated, the process so slow, the treatment so horrible, in a U.S. prison or jail of any kind.
00:33:11.800 We've got to rise above this, and we've got to do it now.
00:33:15.620 We've got to act like Americans and defend one another.
00:33:21.280 So I would like to ask you to do that.
00:33:24.240 I know that we've taken a lot of your time.
00:33:27.480 We always give you the last word as the guest here, and I'll turn to you for your concluding thoughts, and I will say thank you first for all you're doing for these poor folks who are caught in this.
00:33:42.600 And I will not take away any of their individual responsibility for that.
00:33:47.220 But this has gone beyond taking responsibility for oneself.
00:33:51.440 This is now a matter of fair and humane and treatment that is American, not a third world or a banana republic.
00:34:03.580 This is, you use the expression talking about the jails in Washington as a gulag.
00:34:09.000 It's not the Soviet Russia or the Soviet Union either, or, of course, our good friends, the Chinese.
00:34:20.820 And with that, Joe, I turn it over to you for your concluding thoughts.
00:34:26.020 Thank you so much, Lou.
00:34:27.980 You know, to your listeners, I'm sorry if you don't have the stomach to listen to some of the stuff.
00:34:33.640 It's hard to hear, but it's happening and it's real.
00:34:36.280 You don't have to approve of anybody's conduct on January 6th or their reasons for going there or their beliefs about the election to understand that when the constitutional rights of an American citizen are disregarded and violated by the United States government and nobody does anything about it, that that is a massive failure on behalf of all of us.
00:35:00.480 We are all at risk when one person can be tortured by the United States government in this country for their political beliefs, for their participation in the protest that got out of hand.
00:35:10.980 And then it could happen to me.
00:35:12.180 It could happen to you and anyone else that you love.
00:35:14.900 So I would encourage you to set your set, set your your objections aside and to be open minded and to open your mind and open your heart with regard to the people I represent and other January sixes across the board.
00:35:27.060 If you're inclined to follow my work or to give, you can find me at McBrideLawNYC.com.
00:35:33.600 There's a January 6th tab there where people can donate to whatever fund for the for the clients I represent.
00:35:39.820 You can find me on social media if you want to follow my work at McBrideLawNYC or across all social media platforms.
00:35:47.660 And Lou, with regard to your question about the why it's going on, I'd like to start with Bonnie Nichols.
00:35:53.580 She is a force.
00:35:54.640 She has a lot to say.
00:35:56.700 She'll come on and she'll she'll she'll say in a way that that makes sense, that resonates with people.
00:36:03.360 Every time I bring her on a TV show, every time I set an appointment for her to speak in public, any time she gets up there and she talks about her experience as a as a wife, as a patriot, as a woman in America.
00:36:19.300 On behalf of her husband, on behalf of her family, people are outraged.
00:36:24.660 People are brought to tears.
00:36:27.100 People are they have what's almost like a religious experience.
00:36:31.680 It's one thing to hear from the lawyer.
00:36:33.280 Sure, that's my job.
00:36:34.200 But you hear from the wife who says, no, wake up.
00:36:36.920 This is happening.
00:36:37.720 There's just something about the way that she presents and the way that she talks where you can feel the truth coming out of her.
00:36:45.580 And I know that that will resonate with you.
00:36:48.980 I know that that will resonate with your listeners.
00:36:51.880 I am very proud to know you and to call you a friend.
00:36:56.760 I thank you for your work.
00:36:58.620 And I ask that God continue to bless and protect you as you, you know, you live and you speak out in a world that and under under an administration that does not like what you're saying.
00:37:12.780 And I take courage in the fact that men like you still exist and have the courage to say what needs to be said no matter what the cost.
00:37:20.260 Very kind.
00:37:22.500 And I appreciate those words so much, Joe.
00:37:25.100 And I know you're absolutely sincere.
00:37:28.140 And I'm just as sincere in saying, you know, I think the world of you and what you're doing in the toughest of circumstances.
00:37:38.180 And we're all deeply grateful for what you are doing and for speaking out.
00:37:43.140 And as to the to the spouses, the wives, the children, whomever it may be for any one of those families of these these Americans, our fellow Americans who are incarcerated in the January 6th protests.
00:37:58.560 I, frankly, I don't care how polished a speaker or in any other way.
00:38:06.120 You know, I'm I'm a guy who I'm used to people who are straightforward and plain spoken.
00:38:11.560 And I think the country needs to hear for every single one of them.
00:38:14.840 So we'll begin, as you request, with Bonnie and and go through, you know, move on.
00:38:22.480 I feel it's our responsibility now to bring that story to as many people as possible.
00:38:28.320 And and I believe that the audience will be deeply appreciative of your efforts and their and their circumstances as well.
00:38:37.740 So we'll begin the beginning, the beginning right now and we'll open up our our guest list beginning with as soon as you want them.
00:38:48.920 We will make we will make arrangements to to accommodate them within a matter of days.
00:38:55.200 Excellent. Thank you, Lou.
00:38:56.600 Joe McBride, fighting injustice every day, carrying on a fight for the constitutional rights of his January 6th defendants,
00:39:05.020 many of whom are being treated like animals by the federal court system, the Department of Justice prosecutors, the FBI and the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
00:39:14.060 They're a national disgrace.
00:39:15.680 What we are allowing to happen to fellow citizens.
00:39:19.080 Thank God for Joe McBride and all who are working to free these victims, these political prisoners of the Marxist left.
00:39:25.080 To help out, you can reach Joe McBride at McBrideLawNYC.com.
00:39:32.120 That's McBrideLawNYC.com.
00:39:38.580 McBrideLawNYC.com.
00:39:40.040 Thanks for being with us here tomorrow.
00:39:41.940 Our guest is John Solomon, founder and CEO of JustTheNews.com.
00:39:47.140 Please join us.
00:39:48.040 Till then, God bless you, and may God bless America.