The Great America Show - J6 COVERUP

00:00:00.180 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Show. Great to have you with us.

00:00:06.600 We're getting very little information out of Ukraine now over the past week.

00:00:10.540 We know almost nothing about which cities are controlled by the Russian invaders and which are held by the Ukrainians.

00:00:17.800 We have almost nothing in the way of credible casualty counts from either side,

00:00:22.860 and there are no independent entities operating in active combat areas of Ukraine.

00:00:28.260 We do know that the Biden White House wants Congress to put up $33 billion to support Ukraine in the war.

00:00:38.140 Europe has done next to nothing for Ukraine and certainly hasn't put even a respectable fraction up of that $33 billion.

00:00:46.740 It's time for all of us mayor citizens in this country to make it clear to our lawmakers that they're not sending our troops to Ukraine.

00:00:54.620 They're not about to put up a no-fly zone and that Europeans, our good friends, are going to spend their money to support their neighbor.

00:01:03.940 We're not going to allow these pitiful dipsticks we sent to Congress and the Senate to get us into a war that has zero to do with our national interest

00:01:12.960 and which has maximum interest and impact for the European nations.

00:01:18.400 And further, Americans aren't going to war to suit the fantasies of an impaired president 0.82

00:01:23.380 and who we will never permit to be a wartime president under no circumstances.

00:01:31.340 The Marxist left and the rhino liberals are as authoritarian in values and ideology as Vladimir Putin, in my view, 0.98

00:01:39.900 and they seem to be trying to condition the country to accept the idea of war with Russia.

00:01:46.360 In that direction lies war and ruin.

00:01:49.840 We must pledge that this Biden regime will not succeed in their bloodlust.

00:01:54.340 And now we have reports our government and its deep state leaders have expanded their ambitions of power

00:02:02.060 and unconstitutional activities right here in our country.

00:02:07.020 The Wall Street Journal reporting that the FBI conducted millions of warrantless searches of American citizens' data.

00:02:15.280 The Office of National Intelligence disclosed the FBI over the past year did as many as 3.4 million illegal searches of data collected previously by Biden's national security staff.

00:02:31.080 It just doesn't quit.

00:02:32.620 And it won't quit until we, the people, make it so.

00:02:36.980 The January 6th committee is going about its partisan witch hunt and inquisition and persecution of hundreds of Trump supporters

00:02:45.820 all caught up in the January 6th rally in Washington, the demonstrations that followed near and around the Capitol,

00:02:54.000 and in some cases, the riots that extended into the Capitol.

00:02:59.020 But we're also learning that police officers did much that day to provoke violence,

00:03:04.700 and they committed violence against many of our fellow citizens who had every right to be where they were and doing what they did,

00:03:14.220 demonstrating peacefully and orderly on the Capitol grounds.

00:03:19.380 What happened that afternoon is a great tragedy.

00:03:22.920 What has followed in the 16 months since is a national disgrace,

00:03:27.080 for which the Democrat Party leadership is morally responsible?

00:03:32.220 Our guest today is Defense Attorney Joe McBride.

00:03:35.580 He represents five of the defendants charged for their actions on January 6th.

00:03:41.020 Two of his clients have been in jail for more than a year now.

00:03:46.920 And I must say that what is happening in our court system and prison system to these defendants is an outrage.

00:03:54.360 And it's hard to believe this is actually occurring in the capital city of this great nation.

00:04:01.380 Joe McBride, welcome back to The Great America Show.

00:04:04.640 We've been looking forward to your update on your clients and the other defendants,

00:04:08.620 all charged with what in many, if not most, politically motivated charges.

00:04:14.340 Thanks for being here, Joe.

00:04:15.780 It's good to be here, Lou, and I appreciate all the great work you do, as always.

00:04:19.720 I have two clients who are still in pretrial detention, two of my five.

00:04:25.680 One of my colleagues, John, represents John Kiyonaga.

00:04:28.740 He represents about five people.

00:04:31.580 I believe three or four of his guys are in as well.

00:04:34.720 But my two guys have been in each for over a year.

00:04:37.600 That would be Ryan Nichols and Christopher Quaglia.

00:04:40.460 That is, I mean, it's disheartening to hear that.

00:04:44.040 How serious are the charges that they face?

00:04:48.420 The charges are very serious.

00:04:50.460 You have everything from glorified trespasses to assaulting and resisting or impeding officers,

00:04:58.660 federal officers, and inflicting bodily injury.

00:05:01.380 These are accusations.

00:05:03.260 There's a lot of accusations that officers were harmed that day by, despite the fact that they

00:05:08.020 were in full riot gear.

00:05:09.000 If somebody pushed them, that was, you know, felonious assault on an officer.

00:05:13.320 It's obviously these guys have been overcharged.

00:05:16.580 And, you know, so they're overcharged with those things in terms of, you know, aggression.

00:05:22.620 And they also are charged with the 1512, which is obstructing the governmental proceeding

00:05:29.120 and a few other things.

00:05:30.800 Any one of these charges can carry 10 or 20 years, all of them together.

00:05:34.500 You're looking at, you know, a lifetime in jail if these situations aren't addressed the

00:05:39.280 right way.

00:05:40.220 I've been in riots.

00:05:42.140 I've been in mobs.

00:05:43.140 And I know how quickly things can get out of hand.

00:05:45.720 The mob, the riot, whatever it is, takes on a life of its own.

00:05:50.060 It's a hard thing to explain if people have never been around it.

00:05:52.780 Uh, but there become less into a group of, uh, not individuals, but a mob itself, uh, that

00:06:02.120 is Oregon, you know, it's, it's one Oregon out there, uh, and people get pushed in one

00:06:07.380 direction.

00:06:07.760 They go the other, uh, I would have guessed in any other circumstance that there were

00:06:13.520 people, uh, who, you know, could have been, could have run into a police officer, did

00:06:18.400 whatever, but the officers would have been very, uh, restrained themselves.

00:06:24.300 Uh, do you think that the police were restrained, uh, on January 6th, uh, there?

00:06:31.240 Absolutely not.

00:06:32.040 Lou, uh, the police were not, uh, restrained, uh, at all.

00:06:37.540 What you have is a completely foreseeable, uh, disaster in terms of the amount of people

00:06:46.380 who were guaranteed to show up that day, president Trump at the time, uh, a couple of weeks before

00:06:53.140 the six had reached out to, uh, mayor Bowser and, uh, Nancy Pelosi and said, Hey, look,

00:06:59.740 you know, there's going to be a lot of people there.

00:07:01.660 Uh, you guys probably want to accept the national guard's help.

00:07:04.780 They told him to go take a walk.

00:07:07.560 And, uh, because they told him to go take a walk, they, the, the security, um, fell upon

00:07:14.340 them that day to secure the city and to secure the Capitol in a way that made sense.

00:07:19.240 They did not do that.

00:07:20.740 It was undermanned.

00:07:21.760 It was understaffed.

00:07:23.460 And, you know, people walked over from the Washington monument up to the Western terrace

00:07:29.020 of the Capitol.

00:07:29.980 There was no, do not most of the most, there was no signage.

00:07:34.480 Most of the people who got there, any barricades that were down an hour before they arrived.

00:07:39.760 The amount of people who showed up that day versus the cops who were there that day was

00:07:44.220 just one throng of people versus a very shorthanded staff.

00:07:48.720 So what did that shorthanded staff do?

00:07:50.580 They listened to their superiors who said, hold down the fort.

00:07:53.640 They created conditions for a conflict to ensue.

00:07:56.540 And the police took massive aggression against innocent people.

00:07:59.940 And that's demonstrated widely at this point on video by the fact that the police started

00:08:05.720 firing flashbangs and tear gas into a crowd of people who were doing nothing but singing

00:08:11.900 and chanting and praying.

00:08:13.160 And because of that, what was otherwise a peaceful protest burst into a riot.

00:08:19.020 Flashbangs into a crowd that was not advancing toward the police or trying to break into the

00:08:26.200 Capitol.

00:08:27.500 Oh, yeah.

00:08:28.280 It's all.

00:08:28.840 Yeah, for sure.

00:08:29.580 It's on video.

00:08:30.300 You have people with their backs literally turned and the flashbangs are dropping all

00:08:36.980 around them.

00:08:37.520 The gas is dropping all around them.

00:08:39.060 They created chaos.

00:08:40.920 And, you know, from from that chaos, people people were angry.

00:08:45.660 People were like, look, we're just sitting here where we're just praying.

00:08:48.860 You hear people mouthing off saying, hey, yeah, you what are you doing this to us for?

00:08:52.980 We're on the same side.

00:08:54.360 We're pro police.

00:08:55.300 And the cops just kept pushing and pushing and pushing some people in the crowd pushed 1.00

00:09:00.020 back.

00:09:00.440 And before you know it, it was out of control.

00:09:03.360 And I assume that that will be part of the defense for many of the of the people who were

00:09:10.780 there on the Capitol, the protesters and some of them, of course, rioters.

00:09:17.880 Give us a sense of what the defense will be.

00:09:21.060 I mean, if that happened in the in the way in which you're saying, Joe, that seems to

00:09:26.500 me to be some provocation and some basis to certainly at least lessen charges and be

00:09:33.620 more reasonable on the part of the prosecutors.

00:09:36.660 Yeah, it's a it's a it's a fair point.

00:09:39.220 Unfortunately, in these cases, you have sort of two cohorts of lawyers.

00:09:43.980 You have one cohort who just doesn't accept the fact that the cops acted maliciously, despite

00:09:55.920 the fact that in their other caseloads, they're talking about what the cops do on a regular

00:09:59.400 basis.

00:10:00.060 But when it comes to January Sixers, for whatever reason, they're refusing to accept the idea

00:10:05.360 that these people were attacked by the cops.

00:10:07.980 And because of that, they just won't advance the theory in court.

00:10:12.460 They won't advance it in their motions.

00:10:14.860 And that's the vast majority of these people.

00:10:16.980 And then you have a very smaller cohort of lawyers who are doing exactly what you're talking

00:10:23.680 about here.

00:10:24.400 And that's advancing the truth.

00:10:26.060 But when you look at the mainstream media apparatus in their marriage to the Department

00:10:33.360 of Justice and the narrative that's being put out into the public, it becomes an uphill

00:10:38.840 battle real fast when you have that level of public perception buying into one narrative

00:10:44.720 that's false against your clients.

00:10:46.760 And then, quite frankly, you have members of the bench who are just I mean, one of the

00:10:53.160 judges called a guy terrorist the other day.

00:10:56.640 And in Trump, a charlatan in the middle of a hearing, you just the level of animus that

00:11:02.640 that is being displayed unchecked animus toward toward these people who are innocent until

00:11:07.560 proven guilty is unprecedented in American history.

00:11:10.740 It's it's it's troubling and it's very wrong.

00:11:13.920 It sounds horrific.

00:11:15.440 Frankly, a judge actually on the bench referred to the president as a charlatan. 0.54

00:11:21.280 And these these protesters, these rally goers as as terrorists.

00:11:29.080 Yeah.

00:11:29.600 You know, I don't want to get myself into too much hot water with him because I'm going

00:11:33.100 to be in front of him again at some point.

00:11:35.200 But yeah, you can just Google it.

00:11:37.360 It's there.

00:11:37.940 It's true.

00:11:38.400 It happened.

00:11:39.180 It's not only happened by this judge.

00:11:41.040 It's happened by other judges as well.

00:11:42.600 And it's it's concerning because, you know, it's supposed to be an objective objective

00:11:49.920 bench.

00:11:50.620 Lady Justice is supposed to be blind. 1.00

00:11:52.960 People aren't supposed to be taking sides here.

00:11:54.960 But clearly, the lines have been drawn and it's very unfortunate.

00:12:00.540 We were talking with one other attorney who whose client was really very cooperative with

00:12:08.900 the FBI in all aspects.

00:12:12.520 And then suddenly a few months later, I mean, did nothing, literally did nothing.

00:12:18.320 And it's on video doing nothing and was charged, you know, overcharged, as you say, and then

00:12:26.140 had to go to trial.

00:12:28.680 Despite all of that, there is an attitude in this.

00:12:32.420 And I suspect it's because of the, you know, the Democratic influence, the left wing influence

00:12:39.220 in Washington, D.C.

00:12:40.660 on the courts there.

00:12:42.780 There isn't I have to say, I would hate to have to be on trial in one of those courts

00:12:47.700 because I think I'd be in very, very great trouble because these guys are left wingers

00:12:54.680 and they are activists.

00:12:55.780 And, you know, we talk about activist judges, the D.C., D.C. has a reputation of being out

00:13:04.840 of their mind left.

00:13:06.540 Is that an incorrect perception?

00:13:09.480 No, it's a correct perception.

00:13:11.620 And we think of the situation with with Matthew Perna.

00:13:16.480 Matthew Perna is the January 6th defendant who really who recently took his life, unfortunately.

00:13:21.740 So and he he was going to plead out to to a lesser charge, a charge that, you know, some

00:13:30.880 people think whatever it is, his lawyer worked him out of deal and the prosecution is supposed

00:13:37.340 to uphold their end of the deal.

00:13:39.520 And then in the 11th hour, they decided that they were going to hit him who he did nothing.

00:13:45.420 This was a guy who traveled the world to teach people in English.

00:13:48.240 He's one of the most, you know, nice and docile people you could have ever met.

00:13:52.880 I've talked to multiple I've spoken to multiple members of his family, hear nothing but great

00:13:57.560 things about the guy.

00:13:58.640 Just a really, really nice and gentle soul.

00:14:00.860 He went there that day, was not violent at all, worked out a deal.

00:14:06.380 Prosecution decided not to honor the deal.

00:14:08.460 And in the 11th hour, said that they were going to hit him with what's called a terrorism

00:14:12.840 enhancement, which would have bumped his chargeable points up under the sentencing scale by eight

00:14:17.880 points.

00:14:18.400 And his, you know, deal of little time in jail quickly went to a lot of time in jail.

00:14:25.400 And it was so overwhelming for him that he hung himself.

00:14:29.480 That's what we're talking about here.

00:14:30.940 That's the level of unfairness that is happening with these cases.

00:14:34.140 Well, this is going to be, if it is not already, an act of injustice on the part of the U.S.

00:14:46.060 government that will live in infamy.

00:14:48.940 It is, to me, it's astounding what you're saying, what I have heard from, you know, as

00:14:57.360 I said, others, I cannot imagine where this, where this leads, because it's going to require,

00:15:05.700 it's a political act, this persecution, this prosecution of, of these people.

00:15:12.380 It seems to me, there are incidents, I suppose, of actual violence against a police officer by an

00:15:19.300 individual.

00:15:20.380 I, I don't know, but what I have seen on video, what I witnessed that day was,

00:15:27.360 a mob that got away from itself and lost control and entered the Capitol.

00:15:33.400 But, you know, and I was, I was first astonished that people were scaling, scaling the walls of

00:15:40.180 the building.

00:15:40.920 That's the first thing that I reacted to.

00:15:43.820 You know, the second thing I reacted to was the, the police officers, and I guess this is

00:15:48.780 on the West side of the Capitol, were basically escorting people, not escorting them, they were

00:15:55.760 waving them in, uh, or at least, you know, indicating that there's no resistance to their entry.

00:16:03.080 Uh, it was a peculiar moment to see, uh, as it happened and, but you've got all of that

00:16:09.260 video, Joe, the video has to be worth something in a, in a court, even in DC.

00:16:16.500 Yes, it does.

00:16:19.020 It does have to be, uh, have to be worth something and, um, what it's worth, I guess we're going

00:16:25.640 to find out.

00:16:26.460 A lot of people seem to think that, oh, just because you're having, uh, the case heard in

00:16:32.620 DC, that's a foregone conclusion that you're going to lose at trial.

00:16:37.340 And look, in my cases where there's police brutality, where there are men acting in defense

00:16:44.240 of themselves and in defense of other people who are being beaten up by the police, you

00:16:48.840 know, I had a, we had a big argument the other day on this listserv that all the lawyers are

00:16:54.380 on.

00:16:54.700 It's, you know, you have a small group of sort of America first minded lawyers and then

00:16:59.260 the bunch of rabid liberals on there.

00:17:01.000 And I was going back and forth with them.

00:17:02.560 And I said, listen, I'm not really that concerned with trying my case in front of a bunch of,

00:17:08.500 uh, African-American in all Latino jurors who are well, uh, understood, well-equipped,

00:17:15.680 well-acquainted with the fact that the, that the government in this country can be unfair,

00:17:19.280 that the government in this country, that officers can show up to your community, throw

00:17:23.740 somebody a beating. 0.83

00:17:24.640 And then when somebody else steps in and says, Hey, don't beat my cousin, they beat them too.

00:17:28.860 And everybody goes to jail.

00:17:30.040 That's par for the course.

00:17:31.740 When you come from these communities, what I'm concerned with is your, you know, a liberal

00:17:37.300 import or implant from, uh, you know, California or Wisconsin or whatever it is.

00:17:43.720 Those people who do not respect this constitution, those people who actually do not love our country,

00:17:49.840 those people who are incapable of putting aside their own political ideologies in favor of

00:17:56.100 justice.

00:17:56.900 And when you come from a, uh, whether, you know, whether you're a minority in this country

00:18:01.780 or whether you're, you're, you're a non-minority who's, who's experienced a fair amount of

00:18:06.060 suffering in life.

00:18:06.920 When you come from a point where you've suffered in this world, no matter what, you don't want

00:18:12.020 to be the author of somebody else's pain.

00:18:14.920 And so when you're in court and the facts are laid before you, you're not going to want to

00:18:20.400 send somebody to jail simply because you disagree with their politics.

00:18:24.680 Good people and people who have suffered don't do that.

00:18:28.080 It's the other people, the people who don't know suffering, the people who don't love this

00:18:32.000 country, the people who can't put away their politics, who are the true danger to justice

00:18:36.580 in that courtroom.

00:18:37.340 Well, and, and, and as you put it, the community there, uh, is if you will, the, the check on

00:18:47.820 the power of the judges themselves and the prosecutors themselves, as you express it and, and you're

00:18:55.400 comfortable with that, uh, that perspective.

00:18:58.220 Yes, I'm, I'm comfortable with this, with the perspective of, of, of good people who, when

00:19:05.460 you put, uh, uh, I say it again, especially minorities, you know, I'd rather chart, I'd 1.00

00:19:12.000 rather try a case about involving police brutality in front of an African-American jury any day 0.68

00:19:18.580 than I would a bunch of liberal white liberals from California.

00:19:21.760 Um, because one group has experience with this and the other group doesn't.

00:19:26.220 Yeah, well, that makes all the sense in the world.

00:19:29.740 And so how many people are still in jail?

00:19:33.720 Would you say, Joe?

00:19:35.040 Oh, uh, I, I think the number's going up a little bit.

00:19:38.420 I know there was another, there was another, uh, uh, it was another series of raids and

00:19:45.140 arrests this, this past a few days that this happened.

00:19:47.800 I got a bunch of calls and people saying the FBI is kicking in my front door.

00:19:51.720 And I think actually the last time I spoke to you was the same thing.

00:19:54.700 So there's still, there's still arresting people.

00:19:56.540 I want to say there is approximately 80, 80, 85 people who are in right now.

00:20:03.060 That's amazing.

00:20:04.300 And most of them have been there.

00:20:06.820 Um, it sounds like most, uh, most of them have been there from the, from early days in

00:20:13.100 this, uh, prosecution of those arrested.

00:20:16.680 Yeah.

00:20:17.640 A lot of people have been there early on.

00:20:19.640 I mean, Ryan Nichols has been there since, uh, January the 18th and Christopher Quagglin

00:20:25.020 has been there since April 7th of 2021.

00:20:27.960 Apparently there are waves of these raids that take place across the country.

00:20:33.280 Uh, and, uh, tell us about Chris.

00:20:37.180 I know that, uh, Chris Quagglin, uh, has got, uh, medical issues.

00:20:42.020 Uh, he's got other issues.

00:20:44.220 You filed a petition for habeas corpus.

00:20:46.560 Tell us about his case and, and what you're doing for him.

00:20:50.260 Sure.

00:20:50.460 So Christopher Quagglin, um, has, he's a guy from New Jersey, you're all American guy who

00:20:58.700 will do anything for his neighbor, anything for his friend, no criminal record or prior

00:21:02.960 history of violence before the 6th of January, he has, uh, he was diagnosed with celiac disease

00:21:09.860 at 10 years old.

00:21:10.860 He's got a severe case of it.

00:21:12.760 And for those who don't know what celiac disease is, it's, it's, I'm not, I'm no doctor.

00:21:17.300 So I'm sure there's people out there listening who are far better to explain this than me,

00:21:21.880 but he has an, uh, an allergy, a serious allergy to wheat and gluten.

00:21:26.340 And in his case, if he ingest it, um, it gives him a host of different types of, uh,

00:21:32.960 of, uh, manifestations of problems, whether it's bleeding through his rectum, throwing

00:21:38.240 up, losing weight, uh, in, at some point your, your, your white blood cells or parts of your

00:21:44.960 body begin to attack other parts of your body, especially in your digestive tract.

00:21:49.080 Um, and it can, it can lead to you being emaciated, extremely weak.

00:21:52.800 It's an, it's a, it's an autoimmune disease.

00:21:55.980 So, uh, the more it affects you, the more it makes you susceptible to other things.

00:22:00.860 Uh, it shoots your level, your, your, your susceptibility to getting cancer and other

00:22:05.280 things goes through the roof.

00:22:06.660 Um, it's excruciatingly painful, um, for, for those who, who live with it, uh, unchecked.

00:22:13.200 Normally people who have a celiac disease, they just live on a non-gluten on a gluten-free

00:22:18.680 diet, no gluten, and they're okay for most of the time.

00:22:21.980 Sometimes things can get cross contaminated and they get sick.

00:22:24.800 In Christopher's case, the jails have been on, uh, on alert and he's, he's been marked

00:22:30.100 as, as, as a celiac person since the moment he's shown up.

00:22:33.960 Uh, but for whatever reason, they have not, uh, for what first started as negligence and

00:22:40.260 then us complaining about it and say, Hey, you guys are being negligent here.

00:22:43.140 And his care has progressed into outright torture.

00:22:47.040 He's been a mark.

00:22:48.600 There's somebody who's a, a complainer and a whiner, but the guy's not a complainer and a

00:22:53.540 whiner, he's somebody who's living in a perpetual state of pain.

00:22:56.920 He's been living in pain for the past year.

00:22:59.260 At this very moment, he's locked up in solitary confinement, Northern Neck regional jail in

00:23:04.620 Warsaw, Virginia.

00:23:05.840 He's got eight stitches in the side of his face.

00:23:08.820 He's down 40 pounds.

00:23:11.620 Um, he hasn't been fed a non-celiac, uh, he hasn't been fed a celiac safe diet ever.

00:23:18.180 However, he's got grave risk of dying and, or having serious complications from his condition.

00:23:24.640 And because of that, uh, we filed a motion, uh, for habeas corpus, um, asking the court

00:23:31.700 to produce his body, to take a look at him and to release him from pretrial detention because

00:23:37.740 he's being detained, uh, illegally.

00:23:40.080 And we, we allege five claims and the first claim that we allege is deliberate indifference

00:23:46.340 to his medical condition.

00:23:47.880 And if you can prove it deliberate indifference, meaning that the jail doesn't care about his

00:23:53.460 condition.

00:23:53.940 And not only did it not care, they're making it worse that he shouldn't be able to get

00:23:57.660 out.

00:23:58.000 So that's one of the five claims that we're alleging.

00:24:00.980 Um, it's a really strong claim.

00:24:03.080 We have overwhelming evidence of guilt, um, inside the body of the motion.

00:24:07.520 If anybody wants to see the motion, they can just go to my Twitter feed.

00:24:10.480 It's McBride law, NYC.

00:24:12.420 I can share it with you guys as well, but I posted it there inside of the body of the

00:24:16.660 motion are multiple exchanges between myself and Ted hall.

00:24:21.160 Ted hall is the superintendent or the warden of that jail where he straight up tells me,

00:24:25.860 um, we really, you know, your client's going to get what he's going to get.

00:24:29.000 And that's going to be the end of it.

00:24:30.220 And if you don't like it, you know, sue me.

00:24:32.440 And I basically tell him at the end, I'm going to sue you.

00:24:34.740 And now we're doing it.

00:24:36.200 Um, well, good.

00:24:37.860 Uh, and by the way, shouldn't you be, uh, this is all under the federal bureau of prisons.

00:24:43.600 Is it not?

00:24:44.960 Yeah, it's yeah.

00:24:46.220 Technically it is.

00:24:47.180 So, uh, Merrick Garland is named in the suit and then Ted hall is named as well.

00:24:52.120 Merrick Garland being the guy who's obviously in charge of the department of justice,

00:24:55.720 us marshals, so on and so forth are under him.

00:24:58.760 And then Ted hall being his immediate custodian, the way it works with some of these other jails

00:25:03.400 is this is a hybrid jail.

00:25:04.780 This is not like a pure bureau of prisons place where it's just federal guys.

00:25:10.560 Uh, this is a hybrid place where there are state people and there are federal people being

00:25:15.420 held.

00:25:16.000 The problem with that is there should be a section of the jail where detainees exclusively

00:25:23.520 are held because you're not allowed to subject detainees to the conditions that convicted

00:25:28.220 inmates are.

00:25:29.180 But did they do that there?

00:25:30.920 No, they don't.

00:25:31.740 And to, to, to add insult to injury, because we've been outspoken about Christopher's condition

00:25:36.760 and about his mistreatment, they put him routinely in the most violent places inside of that prison.

00:25:42.820 And because of that, that's why he's got eight stitches in the side of his face.

00:25:46.460 Cause he was assaulted by a leader and an international gang who beat the daylights out of him.

00:25:52.440 And then they put him in solitary confinement because of it.

00:25:55.060 They put Chris in solitary confinement.

00:25:56.460 And then this, this in an American prison.

00:25:59.720 Oh, Lou.

00:26:01.120 Yes.

00:26:02.560 Yes.

00:26:03.000 In an American prison.

00:26:04.320 I know going on here.

00:26:06.300 I'm rambling about it.

00:26:07.220 I'm sorry.

00:26:07.480 You're not at all.

00:26:08.180 You're not at all.

00:26:08.780 You're telling a, an important story and that we are deeply appreciative.

00:26:12.700 I just have to say, uh, you know, I'm a, I'm a conservative, uh, I'm a Republican.

00:26:19.260 I, and I am pro law and order pro police and law enforcement, but I'm also pro citizen.

00:26:26.460 The constitution and the rights of every individual in this country.

00:26:30.560 And I am outraged just to, to think about what is happening, uh, to, um, a citizen of

00:26:39.800 this country who I just cannot understand why you don't sue the, the, the Dickens out of

00:26:47.360 every one of those people and, and, uh, the Bureau of prisons, uh, I want the, isn't there

00:26:54.420 some relief you can get?

00:26:57.200 Oh yeah.

00:26:58.060 So first we're starting with the, with the habeas relief, cause we're trying to get him

00:27:01.960 the hell out of there.

00:27:02.660 And we don't want to complicate it with, uh, with a civil suit, a 1983 suit or, or a, uh,

00:27:09.280 federal torts claim act suit against, against the, uh, the jail and, and, and the members

00:27:14.480 who are hurting him.

00:27:15.240 But yes, the answer is yes, we can sue them civilly for damages.

00:27:19.300 We certainly will, but our first, uh, overarching concern is to get him out of there.

00:27:26.700 And, and that's why, you know, uh, we drilled down so hard on this, they're not allowed to

00:27:33.640 punish people who are, who are pretrial detainees. 0.59

00:27:36.740 You can only punish somebody who's been convicted of a crime.

00:27:39.300 So you're only merely allowed to hold a pretrial detainee.

00:27:42.840 This is beyond punishment.

00:27:44.400 This is cruel and unusual punishment.

00:27:46.460 It's deliberate indifference.

00:27:47.500 There's medical condition.

00:27:48.780 It's prolonged solitary confinement that violates the fifth and eight amendments.

00:27:53.360 And on top of that, guess what Lou?

00:27:55.100 Despite the fact that I've dropped his discovery off, I dropped his discovery off to him early

00:28:00.240 last year.

00:28:01.220 He's never seen the discovery in his case.

00:28:03.860 He's never seen once for a minute, seen the evidence against, against him.

00:28:08.620 And that's got nothing to do with me.

00:28:09.960 I go through the process.

00:28:11.140 I bring it to the respective, uh, uh, you know, jails.

00:28:14.800 And I say, here's his discovery.

00:28:16.040 Let him see it.

00:28:16.840 They've never let him see it.

00:28:18.180 It's inexcusable.

00:28:19.500 Not only that they have developed two new systems now called evidence.com.

00:28:24.420 Um, and, and, uh, uh, the, the, the relativity, those are on the tablets.

00:28:30.480 These tablets are routinely given to the pretrial detainees so they can go over, so they can

00:28:35.800 go over their discovery.

00:28:36.940 One's never been given to Christopher either.

00:28:39.120 So there are multiple avenues of approach to get him his discovery.

00:28:42.860 They've never once done that either because they want to punish and intimidate him and

00:28:47.420 make him feel hopeless.

00:28:48.840 And, uh, this is another reason why we're trying to get him out.

00:28:51.760 Do you have the names of everyone involved in his mistreatment?

00:28:56.060 The guards, the wardens, the whomever.

00:28:59.600 That's a, that's a great question.

00:29:01.620 So the way that it works is I don't want to give it all away here, but, uh, lots of people

00:29:08.900 will, will, will reach out to me or they'll send me an email, they'll send me a snail mail

00:29:14.040 or they will call me on the phone.

00:29:17.100 You want me to think that he could just get on the phone and say, Hey, such and such guard

00:29:22.020 did this to me and such and such guard did that to me.

00:29:24.460 And every time he does that, they throw him back in the hole because you know why they're

00:29:28.940 listening to his attorney client privilege calls.

00:29:31.520 That's outrageous.

00:29:32.680 I mean, it's just, I mean, my blood is boiling as you're saying this, and I'm sure everyone

00:29:36.840 else's is as well to think that this is going on.

00:29:41.240 Uh, where is this jail again?

00:29:44.300 Warsaw, Virginia, it's central Virginia.

00:29:46.760 You would think that anyone listening to us who was a federal authority, a U S attorney,

00:29:52.300 uh, a judge would demand that this be investigated immediately, uh, not wait for legal service

00:30:02.200 and process and, uh, complaints or filing a habeas corpus.

00:30:07.260 There should be someone with a decency to get involved and, and, and, and get this fixed.

00:30:14.240 Can you go to the governor of Virginia young and say, governor, I need help here for my client.

00:30:21.540 Is there, this is outrageous.

00:30:25.520 I just can't believe that there aren't enough decent people in Virginia, uh, in office and

00:30:32.400 who have authority and power there who would intervene on behalf of your client.

00:30:38.020 You know, it's, it's a good, it's a good idea.

00:30:40.520 We have been making some inroads with people.

00:30:43.320 I think a big part of it is that, um, people don't believe what I'm saying.

00:30:50.920 They think it's a hyperbolic, um, that I'm exaggerating that I'm just, you know, I'm,

00:30:57.400 I'm doing a good job for my clients by making something that seems, you know, from turning

00:31:02.440 a molehill into a mountain, so to speak, people have a hard time accepting the fact that, um,

00:31:09.060 what is happening is indeed happening in our jails.

00:31:13.140 It's, it's something that is, that has been happening for a long time.

00:31:17.060 I mean, to be fair, the, the black and Latino community has been saying for a very long time

00:31:22.020 in this country, Hey, you know, without getting a fair shake in jail, it's pretty messed up

00:31:25.620 in there.

00:31:26.020 And I think most people just didn't believe, but now that people's eyes are beginning to

00:31:31.600 be opened, um, they're not only realizing that this is happening now, they're also realizing

00:31:36.400 that it's been happening for a long time.

00:31:38.480 And in that vein, um, I have been working with members in Congress, in particular, Louie

00:31:43.480 Gohmert's office, who what a stand of a guy he is.

00:31:46.520 He's just, just an, Louie Gohmert is a great American.

00:31:49.360 He is a great American.

00:31:50.580 And what we are working on is a bill to ban the use of solitary confinement at the national

00:31:57.040 level for us to say that, look, the international community already prolonged solitary confinement

00:32:03.600 is recognized as torture by the international community at solitary confinement for more

00:32:08.820 than 15 days, torture.

00:32:11.180 Um, it also, uh, the Halt Act in New York state bans prolonged solitary confinement and both

00:32:18.560 international law and the Halt Act say, if you got them, if you have a serious medical

00:32:22.720 condition, if you have a serious psychiatric condition, if you're pregnant, if you're over

00:32:27.080 55, if you're under 21 and a couple of other reasons, you should not be in solitary for over

00:32:32.060 for, for, for, for any period of time, not even a day.

00:32:34.780 So we are trying, uh, to proffer legislation at the federal level to ban solitary confinement

00:32:42.540 across the board.

00:32:43.440 Will it help January 6th detainees?

00:32:46.020 Of course, but who's going to help more?

00:32:47.800 It's going to help more of the black and Latino community who are, um, overpopulated in solitary

00:32:53.560 confinement in America's prisons right now.

00:32:56.000 So it is our hope that people from across the aisle will want to work on this bipartisan

00:33:02.540 issue as going to help members of their constituency, as well as members of Mr. Gohmertz, so on and

00:33:08.900 so forth.

00:33:09.520 And we seem to be gaining some, some traction, um, already, and it'll be interesting to see

00:33:14.700 if out of this great evil, um, something good can ultimately come from it.

00:33:19.140 Uh, and your client is where right now?

00:33:22.400 Uh, Christopher Quaglin is in Northern Neck regional jail.

00:33:27.300 That's in Warsaw, Virginia.

00:33:28.600 And Ryan Nichols is in, uh, DC jail, uh, CTF section of a DC jail.

00:33:35.840 And is he also in solitary confinement?

00:33:39.280 Ryan's actually in solitary confinement at this very moment.

00:33:42.180 Uh, I believe that, uh, Ryan is being retaliated against because of me, unfortunately.

00:33:49.520 Um, I, uh, had the opportunity to actually speak with him earlier today.

00:33:54.120 Ryan is a, uh, decorated military veteran, uh, honorably discharged from the Marine Corps,

00:34:01.320 uh, was famous for making Ellen DeGeneres' show for his non-profit Rescue the Universe, where

00:34:08.940 he rescues, uh, you know, people who are stranded from natural disasters and animals as well.

00:34:14.520 No prior history of violence.

00:34:16.360 He has documented PTSD.

00:34:18.560 Um, he's got PTSD.

00:34:20.240 He's been, his PTSD has been treated for, for many years now, I think since maybe 2012 or 14.

00:34:27.160 And the fact that they're putting him in solitary confinement for no reason whatsoever, um, is not

00:34:33.960 only shocking, it's torture because if you have a preexisting medical condition, such as PTSD,

00:34:39.900 you should never be put in solitary confinement.

00:34:42.640 The suicide rate for veterans with PTSD is already very high.

00:34:46.600 You're asking this guy to kill himself when you put him in solitary confinement for weeks

00:34:50.640 at a time.

00:34:51.380 It's wrong.

00:34:52.880 What did Mr.

00:34:53.940 Hull say when you brought these concerns to him?

00:34:57.860 Mr.

00:34:58.480 Hull, um, does not care at all.

00:35:02.600 Um, I have had, uh, it's, it's, you gotta just, it's right there laid out in the motion.

00:35:09.420 It's crazy.

00:35:10.100 I've literally had conversations with him and says, Hey, I'm telling you, you, you repeatedly

00:35:14.280 referred to Christopher Quaglin as an inmate.

00:35:17.200 He is not an inmate.

00:35:18.480 He's a pretrial detainee.

00:35:19.880 And, and as such, you cannot punish him.

00:35:23.840 He will literally write back in bold.

00:35:26.480 Inmate Quaglin is going to get what's coming to him.

00:35:28.860 I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but he actually says inmate Quaglin and he's saying that we

00:35:33.760 are punishing him in accordance with how we punish all inmates.

00:35:36.960 And he, he, he either is refusing or is purposely making fun of me.

00:35:42.060 But what he is saying in that letter is I am refusing as the warden of this, of this

00:35:46.280 jail to recognize the nuance, to recognize the distinction between the pretrial detainee

00:35:51.360 and a convicted person.

00:35:52.780 I'm going to treat him as if he is convicted and I'm going to do it because you can't do

00:35:56.960 anything about it, Joe McBride.

00:35:58.520 Well, guess what?

00:35:59.400 We just did something about it and his emails and his writings and all the things that he

00:36:03.820 has said, um, are going to be, he's going to have to be held accountable for that in

00:36:08.340 court.

00:36:08.580 So it's going to be very interesting to see what, uh, the judge has to say about, about

00:36:13.320 his actions.

00:36:14.000 Have you talked to the Marine Corps association about, uh, doing something, uh, for, uh, not

00:36:20.520 just the Marine Corps, because he is a former Marine, uh, the Marine association, any of

00:36:26.760 the veterans groups, American Legion, whatever to bring to bear the treatment of these veterans.

00:36:32.660 I mean, we watched, we watched president Trump clean up the VA, uh, and do his level best.

00:36:40.340 And he got a lot done, but we know there are still great problems.

00:36:43.440 And to abandon our veterans, whatever he did, he still is entitled to his, I'm saying this

00:36:50.840 to you, of course, Joe, you're fighting for his rights every day, but I can't imagine that

00:36:56.440 there aren't organizations and associations who will say to the Bureau of Prisons and to

00:37:00.760 the justice department, what are you doing to American citizens?

00:37:06.440 It's outrageous.

00:37:07.940 It is.

00:37:08.720 And I mean, I'm saying this, I don't know whether he's guilty or innocent.

00:37:13.660 I don't know what will be found, but I do know he's an American citizen.

00:37:19.620 What difference does anything else make?

00:37:22.060 He has to be treated with respect with his rights.

00:37:24.920 You know, nobody has to, uh, you know, genuflect already.

00:37:28.060 I'm not suggesting that or coddle him.

00:37:29.880 But the fact is you're talking about basic decency here, let alone fundamental American rights.

00:37:38.280 That, that is right.

00:37:39.720 Lou, um, you're very, you're very correct.

00:37:42.080 And everything you're saying with regard to the veterans, uh, you know, uh, at ease is

00:37:47.480 the at ease veterans magazine.

00:37:48.820 Just, they did a recent publication or that they featured, uh, my work and some other January

00:37:54.340 six lawyers work about four, they gave us about four pages in the magazine, soldier of fortune

00:37:59.700 and, and, and, and, and, and a bunch of others have, have covered my work.

00:38:03.520 Um, I, I just think that there is a, uh, there's a sense of fear, um, in the community for anybody

00:38:11.200 who works for the government or is associated with the government, that if you step out and

00:38:15.940 speak out against this, that they're going to, that they're going to come for you too.

00:38:19.260 And, you know, we'll circle back to what you said in the beginning of the, of this talk

00:38:22.800 today, that there was a guy you spoke to another lawyer and his guy was out the FBI interviewed

00:38:28.840 him.

00:38:29.220 He complied.

00:38:29.920 And then all of a sudden he came and they sent him to trot because they will come for

00:38:33.120 you if you speak out.

00:38:34.520 Right.

00:38:34.920 So this is the kind of the scapo tactics that they're using to, to, to, to chill free speech 0.96

00:38:41.360 and to accomplish their, their very divisive goals of making sure that if you are a, uh,

00:38:47.700 right-leaning, uh, Republican, especially a Christian Republican, that they're going

00:38:51.700 to shut you down and lock you up.

00:38:54.420 Well, I, to be honest with you, I, I know that we've been, you know, my wife and I've

00:38:59.000 been, uh, you know, surveilled or wiretapped, whatever you want to call it.

00:39:03.980 We know that there, you know, that the federal government has been, uh, we, uh, I should be more

00:39:10.540 specific, the state department has asked for us to be monitored for crying out loud.

00:39:15.880 Uh, but you, you, you can't live in fear.

00:39:20.640 And if we've reached the point where we have to fear this government, we're going to have

00:39:24.960 to have a new government.

00:39:26.180 This is just outrageous.

00:39:27.660 I cannot comprehend why, uh, how we got here.

00:39:33.760 Uh, I, I don't, I don't know.

00:39:36.940 The only person killed on January 6th was one of the protesters and, and she, you know,

00:39:44.920 it's one of the ugliest things I've ever witnessed that we all saw it is they say live and, and,

00:39:50.540 and living color on television, uh, watching this woman be shot dead and nothing happened.

00:39:58.460 There was no due process.

00:39:59.640 Her rights were just totally ignored.

00:40:02.400 Uh, and we've reached a point of such political corruption.

00:40:07.820 This, you could rationalize this, you can analyze it.

00:40:11.120 You can, it's just brutal.

00:40:12.980 And it, and it was straight up murder.

00:40:17.000 She was unarmed and the police officer is dismissed, uh, to the background.

00:40:23.440 They wouldn't even give his name for what, four or five months.

00:40:25.620 And they're doing this to people who are charged with being in the wrong place, effectively

00:40:30.600 at the wrong time.

00:40:32.360 Your thoughts.

00:40:34.240 Uh, I, I, I agree with everything you said, Lou.

00:40:38.420 And, you know, the fact that, um, when you, when you look at the declaration of independence

00:40:44.520 and you read it and you read the constitution and you think about why it was written and who

00:40:51.500 it was written by, you know, by men, uh, who lived during times like these, who wrote it

00:40:57.960 four times like these.

00:40:59.180 And when you think about the fact that the mere attempt to actually meaningfully exercise

00:41:04.500 these rights in the world that we live in today can get you canceled, spied on, throwed

00:41:11.020 in jail and potentially killed.

00:41:13.280 It really, really makes you ask the question of, you know, whose country are we living in

00:41:20.700 anymore?

00:41:21.760 And, and I just don't, I just don't know anymore.

00:41:25.100 The America that I was born into the America that you were born into, uh, I don't want to

00:41:31.800 say she doesn't exist anymore, but it almost feels like that she's in solitary confinement.

00:41:36.060 And unless something happens in our political leadership and unless something else happens

00:41:44.660 in our faith-based communities, I am terribly worried, um, what, what, what the next few years

00:41:54.060 may entail.

00:41:55.160 And I'm just not sure if, if we can survive this when we're talking about people like you

00:42:01.880 and your wife being surveilled, when we're talking about men with no criminal records

00:42:06.420 being held and tortured in jail, but simply for their politics and their political beliefs,

00:42:11.040 when you're talking about the absolute and outright selling out of our country to, to

00:42:16.160 communist China and the provoking of wars in other parts of the world that we have no 0.55

00:42:20.540 business being in, you really have to say what the hell is happening.

00:42:24.160 And it's, you know, all these things have happened before, but they've never happened

00:42:27.520 all at once and it's all happening at once right now.

00:42:30.920 And, you know, I do believe in my heart that America was created by God that like, you know,

00:42:36.000 Israel and, and, you know, it was set apart by God as a special, as a special place.

00:42:40.500 And I just don't, I just, in my heart, I don't believe that, that, that God will for, for,

00:42:46.140 will forsake us, but I'm damn worried about it.

00:42:49.240 I got to tell you the truth.

00:42:50.720 Yeah.

00:42:51.280 I think that I think most of us, Joe, I think most of us are in the same place.

00:42:57.140 Uh, with the same, uh, uh, frankly, heart wrenching, uh, fears for our country and for

00:43:04.220 our, our, our fellow citizens, because what we're witnessing on the part of, uh, and this

00:43:10.460 does not partisanship, it's just straightforward fact.

00:43:13.660 What we're witnessing on the part of the democratic party is anathema to everything this country

00:43:20.340 stands for.

00:43:21.160 Uh, and these, this should be a bipartisan issue, but there's no such thing as bipartisan

00:43:28.220 because the left is behind this evil that is taking place right now.

00:43:33.480 They are demanding, uh, that it be tree, uh, that it, that something you're talking about, um,

00:43:39.760 something from a molehill.

00:43:41.400 They're talking about calling all of this an insurrection, not a single gun, as far as

00:43:47.000 I know, has been found on, uh, anyone that, uh, with the purpose of, uh, you know, taking

00:43:53.240 charge of the, uh, the Capitol or change of government as a result of their protests. 0.97

00:43:59.500 I mean, it's really outrageous and ignorant. 0.80

00:44:02.300 And the national media is, uh, is no recourse for you or for your clients because they're 0.99

00:44:09.360 all, they're crooked and corrupt, uh, and, and fully, uh, aligned with the Marxist left.

00:44:16.000 That is the democratic party. 0.98

00:44:17.500 Aren't they?

00:44:18.500 Yeah, of course they are.

00:44:20.360 Of course they are.

00:44:21.520 They, they, that the, the media is, uh, very much aligned with them in very much unaligned

00:44:29.820 with our constitution and they, um, it's just, it's just not right.

00:44:36.200 There needs to be different journalistic standards.

00:44:38.120 There needs to, people talk about misinformation.

00:44:40.480 The people who are, who are indoctrinating everybody with, with misinformation are the ones

00:44:46.780 who are most guilty of it.

00:44:47.940 And they're trying to suppress and steal our God-given right to, to, to, to freely express

00:44:53.680 our objections to it.

00:44:55.100 Everything is upside down.

00:44:56.580 Um, and, uh, you know, everything needs to find its way right side up and Lou, I, I don't

00:45:03.840 know how we get there.

00:45:05.580 The trials that are taking place of these, of those charge, those trials, uh, began, uh,

00:45:13.600 where do we stand on those trials and what are your thoughts about how they've been prosecuted

00:45:19.180 and defended to this point?

00:45:21.000 I mean, the trials are, uh, are, are just really still in their beginning stages.

00:45:26.640 Um, most of the trials have, uh, ended in, in guilty verdicts, which is, uh, unfortunate.

00:45:33.480 I do think some of the more difficult ones, uh, are still yet to come.

00:45:38.260 I also think that those who go first in these cases, they're kind of, uh, test tube babies, 0.94

00:45:44.240 so to speak.

00:45:44.820 I don't know if that's the right, right term, but they're, they're, they're the test cases,

00:45:48.340 the literal test cases for, for sure.

00:45:51.860 I think that, um, as we get closer to the midterms that the politics, uh, might will,

00:46:00.360 would the politics have to change?

00:46:01.820 Um, I know at least for those who are running in conservative districts or Republican districts

00:46:07.620 or, or districts that are swing, swing districts that, uh, January 6th and election integrity

00:46:14.220 are the, are the two big issues.

00:46:15.600 So I think because of the fact that, that constituents and people are fed up with, with that way these

00:46:21.880 people are being treated and it's going to have an effect on the judicial system.

00:46:26.740 Cause unfortunately that's just the way the judicial system works at this point, public pressure,

00:46:31.060 even though it shouldn't make a difference, does make a difference.

00:46:33.880 I know in our cases that we're going to fight, uh, like we've never fought before that, uh,

00:46:39.000 you know, some, some of our facts were letting out into the universe.

00:46:42.700 Other things we're playing a little bit tighter to the best with trying to be as strategic as

00:46:47.200 possible to make sure that each one of our clients get their fair day in court.

00:46:53.080 Um, in terms of misdemeanor cases versus felonies, look, uh, my guys who have been in jail

00:47:00.060 have already done the time on the misdemeanors.

00:47:03.800 So I have no problem going into a courtroom and conceding misdemeanors to give the jury

00:47:09.100 something to hang its hat on just so we, just for the sheer fact that we can beat these

00:47:13.180 overcharged, uh, felonies.

00:47:16.060 I won't be able to say in Ryan Nichols case that he didn't go into the Capitol.

00:47:20.080 He did go into the Capitol, but did he go into the Capitol and commit a felony?

00:47:24.140 No, he did not.

00:47:24.860 So that would make his entrance into the Capitol a misdemeanor.

00:47:28.460 If you want to convict them on that, go right ahead.

00:47:30.720 We'll call it a day, but does he belong in jail for 20 years?

00:47:34.840 Absolutely not.

00:47:36.120 It's my hope that, uh, a jury of fair-minded and rational people will be able to see that

00:47:42.680 exactly for what it is and put cases like his to bed sooner than later.

00:47:47.020 And he's, he's in jail for already a year.

00:47:51.580 That's right.

00:47:52.920 Uh, at this moment.

00:47:55.280 Astounding.

00:47:56.200 Uh, I, I would say to chief justice Roberts, if, uh, you happen to be listening, what is

00:48:02.620 your court system doing and why aren't you making it what it should be something that

00:48:08.320 Americans can be proud of instead of shamed of? 0.93

00:48:11.260 Uh, it's, it's just disgusting.

00:48:14.500 Uh, what has happened?

00:48:15.940 Yeah.

00:48:17.020 Joe McBride, you're a great American.

00:48:19.280 Uh, you're doing the Lord's work, you know, that, and, uh, you're doing it, uh, with,

00:48:24.120 uh, an inner strength that, uh, not many of us have.

00:48:28.180 Uh, I know how much of a test this must be for you every day, as well as of course, your

00:48:33.420 clients, uh, who have suffered injustice for a very long time.

00:48:38.880 Uh, I hope that you find them justice and freedom soon.

00:48:42.540 Uh, and I hope, uh, everyone who's been arrested in this, the protesters,

00:48:47.000 the demonstrators, uh, who now stay in charge, uh, for being, uh, uh, at the Capitol and in

00:48:56.100 the Capitol.

00:48:57.100 Uh, I, I just, it's just a sad, sad moment in American history.

00:49:02.980 And we need to end the sadness and make, make right the wrongs that have been committed in

00:49:11.080 this case, more wrongs by our government than by these charged defendants.

00:49:17.080 In my opinion, uh, Joe McBride, thank you so much.

00:49:20.820 Your website again, for those who want to help and, uh, learn more about, uh, the, the

00:49:28.100 tests that, uh, uh, these people are contending with.

00:49:33.020 Sure.

00:49:33.200 It's a McBride law, NYC.com.

00:49:39.060 McBride law, NYC.com.

00:49:40.180 Joe McBride.

00:49:41.560 Thanks so much for being with us.

00:49:43.100 God bless you.

00:49:44.080 God bless you too, Lou.

00:49:45.240 Thank you.

00:49:46.400 God bless you, Joe.

00:49:48.080 This country, this country is in a terrible state and we have to write this ship, make

00:49:53.880 right the wrongs of our government because corruption is rampant in that federal government.

00:50:00.060 And it is make no mistake, ruinous and destructive of the spirit of our nation and our great people.

00:50:07.420 Thank you everybody for being with us today.

00:50:09.420 Tomorrow we'll continue our look at what is happening to the January six defendants, the

00:50:15.120 police who bear great responsibility for that day and the January six committee itself and

00:50:22.000 the radical Dems who persecute these fellow Americans, American greatness reporter, Julie

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The Great America Show - April 30, 2022

J6 COVERUP

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