J6 WAS NOT ABOUT JUSTICE — ALL ABOUT A DESTRUCTIVE NARRATIVE
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Summary
Brandon Strzok's life changed on January 6th, 2020, when he was invited to speak at a pro-Trump rally in Washington, D.C. to protest the Democratic National Committee's attempt to delegitimize Donald Trump's presidential campaign.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to the Great America Show. And we begin this episode,
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as usual, with a warm welcome. Welcome to the big show and a bit of an update on what's happening
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in this great country of ours. And occasionally we include a look beyond our borders to other
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countries, countries that are trying hard to get a mention on this Great America Show. It's a
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problem. There are dozens trying to catch our attention with their antics and absurdities.
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The season of intimidation against the Republican justices on the Supreme Court is underway in this
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country. Protests at churches this past Sunday, protest rallies as well outside the homes of
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Justice Brett Kavanaugh and Chief Justice John Roberts. And Speaker Pelosi couldn't contain
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her joy at the sight of leftist mobs and protests and demonstrators brimming over with what Pelosi
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called righteous anger. And of course, there was a firebombing of an anti-abortion clinic in
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Madison, Wisconsin, and a three-day late White House admonishment against violence and intimidation.
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And so it goes in 21st century Joe Biden's America. The White House made no such admonitions against
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violence against Trump supporters by the Capitol and D.C. police departments and FBI back on January 6th.
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The Dems organized a committee of the same name to persecute almost a thousand of our fellow citizens
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who were part of a larger Trump rally that day and who were caught up in crowds who surrounded the
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Capitol and some of whom entered the building and were charged with serious crimes. The vast majority
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did nothing but found themselves ensnared by the Marxist left Dems' campaign of terror and intimidation
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of Trump supporters, including our guest today. He is Brandon Strzok, and his life, like hundreds of
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others, changed on January 6th. Brandon, it's a delight to have you with us here on the Great America
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Show. I'd like to begin, if we may, with your mindset. You're in Washington for the Trump rally.
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You're a former Democrat who is an activist, and you have driven this organization, Walk Away,
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which is doing terrific work, bringing Democrats to the Republican Party, to MAGA. Give us your
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emotions, your mindset, and your motivation as you were headed to Washington, to the Capitol
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eventually on that weekend. Well, so after the election in November of 2020, I think like most
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people in this country, I went to bed on election night thinking that Donald Trump had a clear victory
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and waking up the next day and scratching my head and my eyes bulging out and being a little bit
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confused about what had transpired during the night. And then the following days, immediately after the
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election, that situation just became more and more bizarre. So I actually joined a number of
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conservative activists who have large followings and went to swing states around the country and held
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First Amendment protected rallies, basically just saying that we, the people, would like to see a forensic
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audit of this vote because something feels very fishy and feels very wrong. And there were a number of
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reports coming in about all different types of abnormalities with some of these ballots and the
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way that the ballots were handled. And so that had gone on for me throughout the month of November and
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the month of December. And as we were approaching early January, I had gotten an offer to come to
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Washington DC and speak at the Capitol on January 6th at another event. This, uh, the plan as it was
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explained to me was that there was an event, there, there would be an event at the ellipse that President
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Trump would be speaking at the ellipse. And, uh, then there would be a march from the ellipse to the
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Capitol. And then there would be another event at the Capitol where dozens of people would be speaking,
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including myself. And to be honest with you, initially, I wasn't sure that I really wanted
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to do it because I had already made a very public proclamation that I was going to be a poll watcher
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in Georgia for the Senate runoff elections. I had told everybody this for a while, and I didn't really
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want to go back on my word. Uh, not to mention the fact that by the time we'd gotten to early January,
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internally, I was starting to feel like the election fraud situation was, uh, or, uh,
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the hope of getting an audit of this vote. I was feeling like it was a little bit hopeless that,
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I mean, the Democrats were really charging forward with, uh, certification of Joe Biden. And to me,
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it seemed like the cause was kind of lost, but I ended up kind of, you know, having conversations with
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people in my own life who advised me that, you know, this is something that it could be the last
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opportunity you have to stand up for president Trump, to stand up for the American voter and just
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use your voice and let people know that, you know, we all feel like something is wrong with the 2020
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election. And so I didn't end up changing my plans and going to Washington DC. And I attended,
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watched president Trump speak, you know, there at the ellipse, he very clearly said that he was going to
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join people at the Capitol and to march peacefully and patriotically, uh, to the Capitol, which is
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exactly what happens. And eventually I, you know, I got on the DC Metro with my security officers and
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we entered the Capitol, uh, approaching the East side. This was around, uh, 2 20 PM that I was coming
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from the DC Metro to the Capitol grounds. Now this whole story has been so badly misreported since
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the very beginning, uh, which obviously intentionally misreported, but a lot of people don't understand
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because they weren't there and they haven't gotten good information that the Capitol of course has four
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sides to the building. And when people think about the, the violence and the struggles with police
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officers and the, and the things that have become sort of synonymous with all of the, the bad things
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that happened on January 6th, my knowledge that happened exclusively on the West side of the
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building. That's where people saw, you know, the, the people shoving through and breaking windows and,
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and things like that. That was not happening on the East side of the building where I was approaching
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as I was entering the grounds, it was very, very calm. People were just want, people were kind of
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clustered all over the grounds in different groups. They were talking, uh, they were having
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conversations and there was a large group of thousands of people collected near the stairs on
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the East side who were peacefully holding signs, chanting. Uh, some people had karaoke machines and
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were singing, singing songs, but I had gotten messages as I was approaching on my phone from friends and
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work colleagues who were watching on television telling me that they were hearing on the news that
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people were going inside the building. And I didn't know exactly what that meant. And I also
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didn't. And at the same time, I started getting messages from some of the other speakers who were
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supposed to be speaking that day saying, is our event still happening? We're hearing something's
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going on at the Capitol. We're hearing there's a disruption. There was confusion. So I thought to
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myself, either this event is still happening and I'm still speaking, or there's something unusual
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happening at the Capitol. And I want to document that to show it to my followers. And at that point,
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I began shooting a video. Uh, I would estimate that I started shooting my video about three full blocks
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away from the Capitol. And I just shot one long continuous video for about 10 minutes. Um, and like
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I said, as I entered the grounds, there's a few things that are, uh, that, and people, by the way,
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anyone listening can watch my video for themselves by going to my website, brandonstrock.com. And my last
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name is spelled S T R A K A.com. Uh, there's a few peculiar things when you watch my video. The first is
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that as I'm entering the East side Capitol grounds, there are quite literally zero police officers on
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the grounds. I'm not saying one or five or 10, I'm saying zero police officers on the grounds.
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There were no barricades, no closed barricades. Everything was open. The sidewalks were open.
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There were people everywhere. This would have been, I would have been approaching at this point,
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I'd say around two 30, two 35, somewhere in that neighborhood. And which side of the Capitol?
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The East side, East side of the Capitol. Okay. And so as I was, go ahead. No, I just wanted to,
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to, to get a picture in everyone's mind about where you were at about what time, uh, to just, you know,
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because many of us watched what was happening, uh, without really realizing, I think I'll speak only for
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myself. Uh, I, I I'm watching this and I'm thinking, you know, this is, uh, this is sort of, uh, amazing.
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Uh, I was talking about the energy of the crowd and everything else. And this is before any, uh,
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anyone had an idea that there was going to be a disruption, uh, a major trespass, if you will.
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Uh, but now, uh, so I mean, that's, that was my purpose and just for the audience to understand
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where we were. Sure. Yeah. And so I'm the, the barricades were open, the crowd, thousands of
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people everywhere. Again, this is just on the East side and I'm walking towards the steps. I'm still
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filming, you know, I'm filming the entire time. And as I'm getting near the steps, there's a man in the,
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that you see in my video, standing near the top of the steps. He's got his hat in his hand
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and he's shouting down to the people below. They've opened the doors. They're letting us in.
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We're going in, we're going in. And so I walked up to the top of the stairs. And when I got to the
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top of the stairs, I found hundreds of people standing up there. There were two large metal
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doors to the East side of the building that were wide open, completely open. And there were some
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people in the crowd who looked like they were making their way in walking in. And the majority
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of people were just standing there kind of watching something. Most people were filming.
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And so I stood there and I filmed for about eight minutes outside of the Capitol. I never went inside
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the Capitol, never did go inside that at any point during the day. And, uh, and I never got within,
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I'd say 35 feet, maybe 30 feet of the open doors. Right. And I stood, I stood there filming for about
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eight minutes. And after eight minutes, a man came outside, got on a bullhorn and shouted out to the
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crowd. Uh, they've cleared Congress. Everybody went home, everybody clear out, everybody clear out
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that he was, uh, as far as I know, this was a protester, not a police officer or any government
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official that was shouting on the, the, the bullhorn. But as soon as he said that I immediately
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turned around and I even told the people behind me, uh, you know, they're saying to clear out,
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go this way, go this way. And I walked down the stairs and then I stayed on the outer grounds for
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another 20 or 30 minutes and just did interviews, street interviews with people. And I took about 13
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videos doing that from there. I went back to my hotel room. I, uh, I took the original video that
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I shot, the one where I'm entering the grounds and going up the stairs and filming the open doors.
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I uploaded that video to Twitter and basically just told my audience, you know, this is what I saw today
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at the Capitol. And, uh, and then about an hour after that, I turned on the television and I started
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to see the footage of what had happened on the West side of the building, the things that I didn't see.
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And I was really shocked because I couldn't even mentally really justify that this was the same event
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because the energy that I was seeing was nothing like what I witnessed on the East side. And I
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instantly became concerned that, that people might not be able to just make the distinction between
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what I, where I had been and what I had done and what these people were doing. And I thought, okay,
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I don't want to come across as though I condone or support anything that I'm seeing. And I don't even
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know at this point how far this has gone. I was, you know, I'm thinking how bad was this? I have no idea.
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So I took my video down and I took down all of the tweets and social media posts I had put out the
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entire day because I just thought I need to find out, you know, how, how far this went and what this
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is. I took it down and I honestly, I didn't think another thing of it. And, uh, and then I flew back
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to my, to where I live and I kind of moved on with my life thinking that was that. And, um,
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it was far from, far from that, far, far from that, uh, a couple of things. Did, did you identify
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the person who said, come on in, uh, on the, uh, at the, uh, Eastern, the East, uh, entrance to the
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Capitol? No idea. I have no idea. Um, there, so the man that I was describing appeared to be a
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protester. Um, and it was, it, it seemed pretty clear to me that he was not the person
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who had opened the doors. And from what I understand, these are very high security doors
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that are nearly, I think it's impossible. They're saying it'd be easier to break open a bank vault.
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So somebody made a decision to open those doors and I don't know how, but no, I have no idea who
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opened the doors. They were open when I got there. And how many uniformed officers were near that
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Eastern, uh, the East, uh, entrance. Okay. So here's, what's interesting is, uh,
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if you watch, so as I'm shooting my video, like I said, there were hundreds of people
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standing at the top of the stairs and I'm, I'm probably about five, 10. So there are people
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all around me. Some of them are six, one, six, two, maybe taller than that. Many people
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had flags that were hanging on very tall flagpoles that were hanging down. So what I did was I took
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my arms and I extended them fully above my head. And then I pointed my camera down toward the door
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so that my camera could capture things that my eyes weren't able to see themselves. And in my video,
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uh, if you study it and I mean, by study it, I mean, if you zoom in, if you pause it, if you look
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around, you can at times see anywhere from one or two, maybe at some points, there are three
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police officers. Now, in my opinion, they're just standing there. I mean, they're at no point.
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Do you see these officers shoving people put, or even saying, get out of here, get out of here.
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I mean, they're quite literally just standing there in the doorway. But the reason why I'm,
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I'm explaining this the way that I am is that by the time we got to the point, which of course we'll
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get into where the government is charging me, uh, their version of the story, which I ultimately
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signed because I took a plea deal and they wrote it, uh, was if you were to read that, you would
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think that there were, uh, an entire, an entire squadron of police officers who were struggling
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as hard as they possibly could to keep people out of the building. And in my opinion, that is not at
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all what my video reflects. And that video did the, uh, did the, to the prosecutors, the, uh, FBI
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agents, the, uh, to the judge, did they see that video? Oh yes. So what happened was I, go ahead.
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I'm sorry. No, no. I was just going to say, because I mean, that's sure evidence, uh, sure proof
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of the reality at that moment there. That's correct. But the problem here is, and again,
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I'm just going to state, you know, in my own opinion, uh, I don't believe that the purpose
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of any of this is to exercise any actual justice. I think that the purpose of all of this is to create
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a destructive narrative in any way. Again, my opinion, what's happening here is that the DOJ
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is overcharging people hideously, hideously overcharging people to the point of scaring
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them to death, knowing that they can, you know, essentially guide people into taking a plea deal.
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And once you, once you make that decision to take the plea deal, because look, let's, let's be honest.
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These are your options. You can, you can go to trial for these are average everyday, you know,
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working class people. It can cost any $250,000 or more to go to trial on these charges. You're
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going to be before a Washington DC judge, a Washington DC jury. These are extremely liberal
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people. These are extremely anti-Trump people, and you're likely going to lose whether you're
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innocent or not. I think the majority of people, that's what's in their minds when they're making
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the decision to take these plea deals. And once you make the decision to take the plea deal,
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what you're essentially doing is giving the government permission to write the story from A
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to Z, and you have to sign it. And then that story goes straight to the media. And then that story
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becomes, I, you know, John Smith went to Washington DC with the intention to disrupt Congress.
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And when I got there, I saw police officers being attacked by Trump supporters, and I cheered them
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on. And it's, it's fiction, but they're getting, they get to write this fiction and it's extremely
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beneficial to them going into a midterm election.
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Right. And I want to get, we're going to get further into that, but the Washington Post
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subsequently, it was reporting that Brandon Stronka was yelling, go, go. I think there were
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two goes, not the usual customary three that you see in movies, go, go to those who were assaulting
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the Capitol, that you had been encouraging, if you will, of a, of a riot. You were inciting in your
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action. They went to great, it was, it was sort of a peculiar article. And I, I'm sure you know the
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article I'm referring to. That article had sort of, there were alternate realities within the article
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itself, but the, but inserting those two comments from you, it just didn't ring, forgive me, Washington
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Post, but it didn't ring true. What is the truth?
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Well, so as it pertains to that particular comment, that's an interesting one too. So, and again,
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anybody is welcome to watch my video with their own eyes and make their own judgment and their own
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decision. I'm standing there at the top of the stairs where there are hundreds of people.
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And at various points, the, it became, I don't know if I would say dangerous, but, you know,
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for, I think for anybody who's ever gone to a concert or a festival or something where there's
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lots of people kind of shoulder to shoulder, if one person in the crowd pushes one way, the whole
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crowd is going to sway to the left and the whole crowd is going to sway to the right. And that was kind
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of happening a little bit, uh, at one point. And there's a girl in my video who makes a decision
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that she wants to leave the cap. She wants to walk away from the Capitol. She didn't go in the
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Capitol, but she's standing there in this crowd and she wants to go back out to the outer grounds
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and she's shoving, she's just shoving into people to try to get out. So, and it was, people were starting
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to kind of lose their footing. So I sort of arched my shoulder back and I tried to create an opening
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for her. And I, when I did that, I, I pointed and I said, go, go. And you see her in the video
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respond to me. She says, she says something like, relax, relax. I'm going, I'm going something
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like, I mean, we're clearly having a conversation, but what they did is they took those words that I
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said and assigned their own meaning to them and completely removed the context of that.
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And they did this several times. What I told you a moment ago about the man standing there saying,
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they've opened the doors. They're letting us in. We're going in, we're going in. I clearly am just
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repeating what that man says as I'm shooting the video, as I'm shooting the video. And, uh, but
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the, uh, the, the DOJ just isolated the words that I'm saying and said, he's shouting, we're going
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in, we're going in as if it was my idea. Yeah. It, this is, you know, I, I've been talking about
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this, uh, you know, from the inception, but it is dispiriting, uh, no matter how heroic the tale
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and yours is heroic, uh, because of the way in which you have handled yourself throughout,
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uh, and my judgment, uh, but to see that the police and the prosecutors and the judges,
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not all of them, but most of the judges certainly have been so craven and so politically, uh, and
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ideologically corrupt that they would exploit this moment for their, for their purpose, uh, their
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political purpose is, is something that not even I, who, uh, I'm a skeptic of government in all ways,
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uh, and always have been, uh, uh, yeah, I, I was, I was shocked. I remain shocked at the,
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at the, uh, the way in which that's pervasive in Washington, DC, this, this bias, this, uh,
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purpose, uh, this motivation that is leftist, it's Marxist, it's destructive. Uh, it has,
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it had to be gut-wrenching you from that very moment forward. It, it, it has been gut-wrenching
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and it's not only has this been extremely destructive to my life and we haven't even gotten into what
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they did yet, but I will say that it's, uh, it's also, it's dangerous. I mean, it's very,
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very dangerous because they're, of course they will never admit this and they will never,
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they will never see it, but their base is, I mean, look what's happening right now with these
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abortion protests. Look what's happening and look how quickly it escalates. Look what happened with
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Black Lives Matter. It takes so little for the left to activate their base and for their base to become
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unhinged and crazy. And they're total mob and, and, and, and, and a mob that doesn't seem to ever
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have to face any consequences and, and feels more and more emboldened. I think each time to do whatever
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they want, if they feel upset and they have been spoon feeding them now for a year and a half,
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this story about insurrection and sedition and terrorism, and they have connected me to that story
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as though I were somehow a total equal participant in this act of domestic terrorism. What I mean, I was
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for the love of God, I mean, I didn't even put, I didn't put my hands on anybody. I didn't steal
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anything. I didn't break anything. I stood outside the building with a camera in my hand for eight
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minutes, but every day of my life now I am attacked constantly on social media or elsewhere by people
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screaming that I'm a traitor to my country, that I'm an insurrectionist, that I should be, I should be
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executed. I should be spending the rest of my life in prison. And if you Google my name,
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it's devastating. I mean, there is, you wouldn't even know that I created the walk away movement
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or the walk it's gone. I mean, there's, you can't find a story. It is just 25 pages of MAGA
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insurrectionists, domestic terrorists over what ultimately ended up being a misdemeanor for disorderly
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conduct. Right. But I, we should talk about that too, because I mean, for, for what did end up being
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a misdemeanor for disorderly conduct, you know, it began with an FBI raid in my apartment on January
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25th, the FBI, a team in tactical gear coming into my apartment, putting me in handcuffs and presenting
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me with a search warrant to take my property. And you know, a team of agents is taking my computer,
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my phone, my iPad, my electronics, my hard drives, my camera, my clothing.
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Had you had any contact with the FBI or anybody else between the 6th of January and that moment?
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No, none. This is how it began. This is how it began. Yeah. And you know, there was always,
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this is what is, uh, I think so maddening is with my case, they had researched who I was.
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They knew that I had a, uh, high public profile. They knew that I had done, you know, numerous
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appearances on, on conservative cable news and, uh, was pretty well known for people who follow
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politics. And I think that that was enough for them. And, and another thing that's unusual, unusual
00:26:57.780
about my case is that I was actually never indicted. So with, with, with me, this was all between one
00:27:05.680
FBI agent and a judge. The FBI agent obtained a copy of my video, even though I had taken it down
00:27:13.680
multiple people on Twitter who, you know, left-wing activists who, who hate me had copied the video.
00:27:21.380
They had sent it to the FBI. The FBI watched my video and, uh, decided to go to a judge
00:27:31.140
and, uh, and request an emergency order to have me arrested based off of this video. The judge granted
00:27:39.720
them that. And through that, I was, I was arrested on a complaint. And that is what, why the FBI then
00:27:47.940
had permission to, they got an emergency order to, for the search warrant and to be able to arrest
00:27:54.600
me. And they came that day and they arrested me and they took me to jail. I spent days in jail,
00:27:59.440
uh, awaiting my ability to see a judge to, uh, to request release. How long were you in jail?
00:28:07.280
How long were you in jail? About two and a half days. Good grief. Well, I just want to say to,
00:28:13.720
uh, to the audience, there's something called swatting, which has become a nuisance. It seems
00:28:19.700
to have ebbed, which, uh, people call up, uh, the police departments and, and create phony incidents
00:28:26.040
and, uh, attack people that they don't like. You were literally swatted that that's extraordinary.
00:28:32.600
And, and this is something too that I, and I'm sure you're aware of this now, but left-wing groups of
00:28:39.060
all kinds were spending extraordinary hours and energy and money going through the entire web
00:28:47.000
to, to find any video, any way to, uh, be able to say to the authorities, uh, saw something and I'm
00:28:55.980
saying something and here's your target. Uh, and they did that with, I suspect hundreds of people,
00:29:02.880
the FBI wasn't even involved. They were just order takers from these left-wing groups. Uh,
00:29:08.340
was that your experience? Do you know who did it? I don't know exactly who did it. I know that when
00:29:15.500
the FBI arrested me, they put out an eight page, uh, essentially press release. And in that eight
00:29:23.420
page press release, they said that I had been turned in by a family member. And they also said
00:29:29.960
that they received, I think they said either hundreds or thousands of, uh, of tips from people
00:29:38.040
on Twitter. So, you know, I have, uh, at the time I had almost 700,000 Twitter followers.
00:29:45.120
Uh, of course there was a huge conservative purge right after January 6th. Uh, so now I'm, I, I lost
00:29:51.720
like 200,000 followers in a matter of days, but at the time I had about 700,000 followers and they,
00:29:58.980
some of these people obviously hate me and they would just keep tagging the FBI for weeks and saying
00:30:06.420
he was there, he was there, he was there. We have a video, we have a video. And, uh, so the FBI said
00:30:12.620
that I was turned in by a family member and I, that they had also received hundreds or thousands of
00:30:17.500
tips that I was there outside of the Capitol. So tell us, this is about six in the morning when the
00:30:26.700
SWAT team breaks into your apartment. Did they not? Yeah, it was very, it was, yeah, yes, they did.
00:30:33.440
So it was very early. Um, I, I woke up that morning early that morning to the sound of knocking.
00:30:40.100
And my first thought was that, uh, it was like the, I live in an apartment, so I thought it was
00:30:46.620
the, like the building maintenance guy or something. I was like, why is he here so early?
00:30:51.640
And all of a sudden, as I'm having that thought, the knock changed to boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:30:59.080
And at that moment, I, I immediately knew what was going on. I was like, oh my God, they actually,
00:31:05.560
I can't believe this because I, you know, we'd been reading for weeks in the news that people
00:31:09.940
were being raided. They were being dragged outside their houses. They were being abducted and taken
00:31:14.880
to Washington DC. And that's what I thought was going to happen to me. I thought that they were
00:31:19.420
going to extradite me to DC and I would be sitting in a prison for God knows how long. And, uh, but
00:31:26.520
they took me to the local County jail, um, which is pretty harrowing where I live. Um, and I was in
00:31:35.620
the jail for about two and a half days before I was finally released. And when I was released,
00:31:40.500
that's when I began to gain an understanding of my charges. So if you can believe it, they,
00:31:47.780
they charged me with two felonies and a misdemeanor. And the first felony was knowingly,
00:31:56.060
knowingly occupying restricted grounds. Remember I'm, I'm standing among thousands of people with
00:32:03.520
no police officers and no barricades anywhere, but I knowingly occupying restricted grounds,
00:32:08.560
uh, disorderly conduct with an intent to disrupt a hearing before Congress. That was a misdemeanor
00:32:15.540
and, uh, a felony of impeding an officer in the line of duty. And when they told me that, I thought,
00:32:25.840
I said, what is this? What are they talking about? And my attorney said in your video,
00:32:32.900
that you shot, there's a moment where one officer comes to the doorway of the Capitol. Now, remember,
00:32:40.320
this is happening about 35 feet in front of me. And I've got my camera completely above my head
00:32:46.240
pointed down toward the door. He said in the video, you can see that a moment where a Capitol
00:32:51.560
police officer comes to the doorframe. And when he gets there, somebody, somebody nearby grabs his
00:32:59.260
shield out of his hand. And when they grab his shield out of his hand, several people in the
00:33:05.440
crowd start chanting, take it, take it, take his shield, take his shield. And they said, well,
00:33:11.160
the FBI is saying that you are one of the people on the video that they hear chanting, take the shield,
00:33:17.740
take the shield. So they're charging you with a felony of impeding an officer because they're saying
00:33:24.680
that that is your voice that they hear. Well, all I can tell you at this point was that as we worked
00:33:34.820
through the entire year of this case and working out a plea deal with the prosecution, I can tell you
00:33:43.940
this. I vehemently from the beginning denied having knowledge of that or being involved in that in any
00:33:52.580
way, shape or form. But the Department of Justice said that they were unwilling to drop that accusation
00:34:01.420
against me. They were willing to drop the charge, but not the accusation. So in order to get this plea
00:34:09.300
deal where they dropped the felonies and only charged me with a misdemeanor, it included signing a
00:34:16.660
statement of offense that they wrote in which they said I did that. So according to the statement of
00:34:22.940
offense by the Department of Justice, I walked onto the Capitol grounds knowing they were restricted,
00:34:28.500
knowing I wasn't allowed to be there. When I got there, I saw a crowd of people struggling with
00:34:34.180
police officers. I shouted, go, go, to encourage the crowd to go inside the Capitol. And then I
00:34:41.420
witnessed with my own eyes, a police officer having his shield ripped away from him. And I started
00:34:46.600
screaming, take his shield, take his shield to encourage the crowd to take the shield from the
00:34:51.440
officer. That is the statement that I signed. And just to drive it home for you, that's their story.
00:35:02.640
That's their version of events. And I guess I would just like anybody listening to just for a moment,
00:35:07.940
maybe employ an ounce of common sense and ask themselves, does it really make sense that I
00:35:15.020
would film myself doing those things and then intentionally go back to my hotel room and upload
00:35:21.220
that video to social media for my conservative audience, my pro law enforcement audience,
00:35:27.300
my pro law and order audience to watch me doing those things. I guess I just, I would ask the question,
00:35:34.800
why would I do that? But nonetheless, uh, in order to secure this plea deal and not go to trial,
00:35:42.000
that is the statement that I signed. Would you, would you change your mind about that play deal?
00:35:48.000
If you, uh, that plea deal, if you had it to do over, that's a question that I struggle with every
00:35:53.980
single day. And I think that I will struggle with that for many years to come. Uh, here's what I can
00:36:00.860
tell you the situation. And this is hard, I think, for people to understand. And I, and I get that,
00:36:06.780
but the, the question here was never, how do I win or how do I lose? It was, how do I lose the least?
00:36:14.700
This was an unwinnable situation. There was no winning. And so my question was simply, do I spend
00:36:22.260
money that I don't have to go to trial and fight this, knowing that I'm going to be sitting before a
00:36:29.260
liberal judge and jury who are probably going to find me guilty just because they can, because they
00:36:35.660
hate Donald Trump and they hate anybody who supports him? Or do I just take this horrible deal that's
00:36:41.480
been offered to me and take ownership of things that are, are, are soul crushing to take ownership of
00:36:50.980
so that I can move on with my life. And that's the decision that I made.
00:36:56.140
Now, recently there was one January 6th defendant who opted to have a bench trial
00:37:02.080
and was lucky enough to have a judge who looked at this and said, uh, the evidence to me shows that
00:37:10.400
he did not know he was trespassing and that there were police officers waving him inside.
00:37:16.040
And so he dropped all the charges against this defendant. Now that's only happened one time.
00:37:20.700
Everyone else who's chosen to go to trial has been found guilty on all charges.
00:37:24.700
You're describing the first, the first, uh, trial, uh, of, uh, that resulted in that play,
00:37:33.040
uh, resulted in that, uh, instance. It was judge Sullivan, who's had something of a checkered career,
00:37:38.700
but he actually took the trouble to go back and look at the justice department charges, uh, in various
00:37:45.440
things, whether it was Antifa, whatever. And look, you're talking about at the outset, the overcharges,
00:37:51.220
uh, here by the justice department, uh, the judge had the energy and the interest and the sense of
00:37:57.820
responsibility himself to go back and take a look at what the justice department had done,
00:38:03.080
uh, with left leftist activists. I'll put it that way. And found that the charges were three and four
00:38:10.540
times that of anything that the justice department brought against the left, uh, the leftist activists,
00:38:19.320
uh, considering everyone, uh, at the, at the rally, right-wing activists, uh, it's not exactly a
00:38:25.780
comparison Antifa, uh, black lives matter. And of course the Trump rally, but at least he did it.
00:38:32.540
And that's the reason that that judge, uh, it resulted in an acquittal. Uh, and, uh, your judge
00:38:40.400
doesn't sound like he was in any mood. How would you describe, how would you describe his, uh, his, uh,
00:38:47.960
his state of mind? I, I think that your assessment is right on target. Exactly. Yes. Um, so my judge,
00:38:57.060
uh, in my case, uh, I would describe, uh, and I'm not, uh, I'm not going to say her name or, or get into
00:39:05.480
any of that, but, um, uh, in my opinion, there was, um, a marked difference between the way that she
00:39:16.260
interacted with the prosecution and the way that she interacted with my attorneys. And, uh, I felt
00:39:24.300
from the onset, I knew before sentencing that I was in trouble. I, I, I, there, we, we had sort of a,
00:39:31.560
uh, preliminary hearing about a few different matters, uh, three days before my sentencing.
00:39:37.920
And I spent the next three days going, I am in big trouble, big trouble because, uh, there was a,
00:39:46.020
what I would describe as a hostility toward me, toward my attorneys. And, um, it was very clear to
00:39:53.140
me that the writing was on the wall. And when we actually got to my sentencing hearing three days
00:39:59.180
later, uh, it was very clear that, that she, at the very least was on board entirely with the
00:40:12.440
prosecution and the DOJ's version of what had happened that day and why. And what, what really
00:40:20.260
kind of shocked me was that she did watch my video. And I, I, I honestly believed that that
00:40:28.300
would be my saving grace. I thought to myself, you know, and my video is not perfect. And by the way,
00:40:33.220
I'm, I'm pleading guilty to a misdemeanor of disorderly conduct. Now, most people on my side
00:40:40.820
of the fence, I mean, including incredibly intelligent minds and sophisticated people have said that they
00:40:47.780
don't even understand how my, my personal behavior could be construed as disorderly. Nonetheless,
00:40:56.280
I'm thinking to myself, okay, if I have to take a disorderly conduct charge, because I was there
00:41:02.020
because I was on the steps and the doors are open and some people are going inside to me, that's not
00:41:08.100
the most, the biggest injustice on the face of the earth. And I guess I can handle that. Um, but
00:41:14.640
unfortunately, when she watched my video, it's, it's, it's as if she was watching something entirely
00:41:23.020
different than what I felt like I'm watching when I look at it. And to her, uh, it seemed that this was
00:41:29.540
very, very egregious. And she felt that my behavior was very egregious. And, um, she had, she made several
00:41:38.580
comments about how she wished she could punish me more harshly than what the sentencing recommendations
00:41:44.780
would allow. And in my opinion, the, the sentence that I received is pretty extreme for a class B
00:41:52.020
misdemeanor for somebody with no criminal record. Tell everybody what your, your sentence was and is.
00:41:59.140
Okay. So, well, first of all, please bear in mind that by the time I got to sentencing,
00:42:06.260
which was on January 24th of 2022, it had been an entire year since the FBI raided my house and took
00:42:14.680
me to jail. So on this misdemeanor, this class B disorderly conduct misdemeanor charge, I've already
00:42:21.840
spent two and a half days in jail. I've spent an entire year on pre-trial supervision, government
00:42:28.260
supervision. So that's already happened. Now I'm being sentenced to three months of, of house arrest
00:42:36.140
with an ankle monitor, not allowed to leave my home for three months, three years of probation,
00:42:43.080
60 hours of community service. The DOJ actually did not even request a fine, but the judge said that
00:42:51.140
she was sentencing me to the maximum fine of $5,000, uh, just because she felt
00:42:57.520
I deserved it. And, uh, and I was ordered to pay restitution to the Capitol of $500. Although it was
00:43:06.420
acknowledged that I didn't do any destruction or vandalism or harm to the Capitol in any way.
00:43:12.440
And, uh, and, uh, and, uh, oh, and the government requested that as a condition of my probation
00:43:28.120
that I be, uh, required or excuse me, the government requested as a condition of my probation, that they
00:43:35.760
have the right to surveil my phone, my computer, my bank accounts, my email accounts, and my social
00:43:44.200
media accounts for three years while I'm on probation. But the judge actually did not grant
00:43:49.820
them that. That was the one thing they didn't get. Well, thank you. You know, thanks to the judge.
00:43:55.080
Brenda, do you have any objection? If I find out who your judge was, because this is a judge and we're,
00:44:00.900
we're going to speak, uh, we're, we're going to speak forthrightly and I won't use names or anything
00:44:07.740
else without your, uh, without your approval. Uh, but I really think I would like to know,
00:44:15.360
I'll put it that way, who this judge was. And I think our audience should know who this judge was,
00:44:20.500
because speaking of egregious behavior, in my judgment, no pun intended, uh, hers was egregious.
00:44:27.460
Uh, and I think the public needs to know who such people are, who appointed them and what their
00:44:34.820
record is. Uh, give us a, you know, you don't have to answer me now, but if you would think about
00:44:41.660
that, I would certainly like to provide that to the, to the public. I think there's a, uh, a real need
00:44:48.460
to know. Well, this is, you know, this is public record because every, everything, every, every
00:44:56.680
moment of every one of these January six cases is being mass reported by the left-wing media.
00:45:02.660
Uh, so it's, it wouldn't be hard for anybody to find if, uh, they did a, a, an online search. Uh,
00:45:09.160
but what I will say is that, uh, so I'm on probation for three years and yet another unusual
00:45:17.100
aspect of my case is that, uh, so I reside right now in the state of Nebraska and what typically
00:45:25.960
happens, you know, particularly with a misdemeanor case, uh, uh, what's considered to be a petty
00:45:31.860
offense by the court, uh, the federal jurisdiction, which is say Washington DC doesn't usually have
00:45:40.000
interest in hanging onto these cases. So they would, they would normally transfer jurisdiction to the
00:45:45.920
state that you live in to get rid of, you know, to take this off their caseload and say, if, if,
00:45:52.200
if any time in this three years, God forbid, I violated probation or I broke the law, I would end
00:45:58.500
up before a judge in Nebraska, the state where I live in the state where I'm on probation. But with
00:46:04.160
these January six cases, these judges are holding onto these cases. And so my judge said during my
00:46:11.520
sentencing that she intends to maintain jurisdiction of my case. So if I so much as jaywalk in the next
00:46:18.820
three years, I'm going back before that judge again. So I just want people to be, nobody do
00:46:25.620
anything stupid. Nobody, I don't want anybody reaching out to her. I don't want anybody doing
00:46:33.240
No, this audience, this isn't, let me guarantee you, this is, this is, this audience is, is law and
00:46:41.960
order. Uh, our audience is civil. They are bright. They are patriots. And, and frankly, your judge is
00:46:50.800
not, uh, a patriot to treat a citizen, a fellow citizen that way. Uh, and the, you know, the name of the
00:47:01.300
judge is already out in the public, uh, as you know, uh, but, uh, but I acquiesce what you're saying
00:47:08.120
because I don't in any way want to create any, uh, friction for you or any problem. Uh, so we will
00:47:14.380
let, we will, uh, table that. And, uh, I withdraw the request entirely. Uh, fair deal. Fair deal.
00:47:23.360
Yeah. All right. Let's, let's, uh, continue, uh, with your story here just a bit, if, if you can,
00:47:30.860
uh, tell us what the most outrageous part, most shocking take has been from this experience. I,
00:47:38.860
I mean, I don't know if you could possibly sort through, which would be the most, uh, it is such a,
00:47:45.640
you know, and I've heard a lot of these stories, uh, they're all terrible. I, I will tell you,
00:47:52.780
there are stories, as you well know, uh, people who, who remain in jail now more than a year
00:47:59.360
afterwards without any habeas corpus, without, uh, any production of charges, uh, it's outrageous.
00:48:07.000
Uh, and I will tell you, and I think, you know, uh, you are in many ways, although you have been
00:48:13.160
offended in, in, in, in the worst ways by our, our courts, our prosecutors and investigators.
00:48:19.400
Um, there are some, there are some stories that are just, uh, sickening from, from one moment to
00:48:26.400
the next. Only they last for more than a year. Uh, it's hard to believe this is American justice,
00:48:33.160
isn't it? Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, it's, it's truly unbelievable. And I, you know,
00:48:40.220
this is another thing that we tried to impress upon my judge at the time of sentencing was the,
00:48:49.120
the disparity in the way that, first of all, my case had been handled, the things that I had
00:48:57.420
already gone through. Uh, again, it's, I, I think it's, you almost become brainwashed after a while
00:49:04.860
by the way that the media keeps pounding away at this and pounding away at this. There are days I
00:49:09.580
have to remind myself that I'm like, you know, you didn't really do anything. You didn't really hurt
00:49:14.700
anybody. You didn't touch anybody. You didn't go there with an intention of hurting anybody or doing
00:49:19.720
anything, but the way that my life has been in so many ways damaged and, and, and aspects of my life
00:49:28.440
shattered over this. I mean, first of all, within the first 30 days of me being arrested and taken to
00:49:37.300
jail, I, it was just, it was unbelievable. Bear in mind, I'm already facing enormous trauma and,
00:49:45.120
and PTSD for, I mean, having your home FBI raided and taken to and sitting in jail and sitting there
00:49:52.680
in an orange jumpsuit and then going before a judge who tells you it's the case of the United States of
00:49:57.540
America versus Brandon Strzok. And then you get out of jail and it was just like, boom, boom, boom.
00:50:04.660
Within, within three days of getting out of jail, I got a notice on my door of my apartment telling
00:50:12.460
me that I was being kicked out of the building because this was all over the news. And I was on
00:50:19.220
a month to monthly because I'd lived in the building for so long. I was now on a month to month basis.
00:50:23.880
Well, they're saying, well, we're not renewing you next month or going forward. You have 30 days to
00:50:28.520
vacate. And then I, uh, I had, so I have two organizations, the walkaway foundation and the
00:50:36.620
walkaway campaign pack political pack. So the, uh, the fundraising portals that we use online for
00:50:45.200
these organizations banned us. So we lost our ability to fundraise. Then all of my email services
00:50:52.380
that I used to be, to email all of my subscribers and my followers, I was banned from those. So I lost
00:50:59.160
my ability to contact any of my donors or my subscribers or any could not communicate with
00:51:05.740
them. Uh, when you say you were banned, who banned you? Okay. So the, for our foundation, we were using a
00:51:13.500
fundraising portal called classy. And for the pack, we were using a fundraising portal called
00:51:19.760
antidotes. Uh, and both of those, uh, canceled us for the emailing. I was using, uh, uh, MailChimp.
00:51:27.040
And then I actually switched after I got banned, I switched from MailChimp to a service called
00:51:32.580
constant contact for emailing. And then they banned me after that. Uh, so do you think they were contacted
00:51:43.500
I don't know that they were contacted by the FBI, but I think that it was just the, the media.
00:51:49.200
It was, I think it was a combination of, uh, left-wing activists who were, I, like you said,
00:51:57.060
I mean, these people spend all day long digging into your business and then they'll find out who
00:52:02.140
you're doing business with and they'll start calling them and calling them and saying, you know,
00:52:07.440
do you know that an insurrectionist is raising money using your platform, you know, and,
00:52:12.440
and, and they'll threaten to go to the media with it. And most of these companies will just cave
00:52:18.000
because they don't want that type of, uh, bad publicity. So the effect of this plea agreement
00:52:24.740
was that this judge basically took away, not only, I mean, made you, gave you the least harmful,
00:52:34.820
uh, result, I guess, uh, in the plea deal, the, the least of, uh, uh, uh, injury to you. Uh, but at
00:52:44.540
the same time, denied you your first amendment rights, denied you, uh, your opportunity to be
00:52:49.980
politically active. You were nullified in point of fact by the left wing justice department and
00:52:56.740
prosecutors and FBI. Yes. But I, to be clear, that was not the judge who did that, not the judge who
00:53:04.120
the judge had no responsibility about whether these companies banned me or not. That was a,
00:53:08.800
no, no, no, no, no. What I mean by that, Brendan, what I mean by that is insisting upon this harsh
00:53:15.500
plea deal and, and carrying it out. The result was far more than what was contained in that plea deal.
00:53:21.960
Uh, there were effects that went and consequences went far beyond that, far beyond that, far beyond
00:53:29.400
that. Uh, there's the, you know, one of the worst things was, um, you know, I, for, for years,
00:53:36.180
I travel constantly doing the work that I do with walk away. And it's not unusual for me to be on an
00:53:43.400
airplane every week, sometimes three to five times in one week. And so many years I've had TFA pre-check
00:53:51.480
and never had a problem with that. I've never had a criminal record. I've never had any problems,
00:53:56.040
but suddenly I got a letter in the mail from the government saying I was no longer, uh, that my
00:54:01.560
TSA pre-check was canceled and that I was no longer considered a low risk traveler. And then when I went
00:54:08.740
to take my first business trip, which was a week or two after that, that's when I discovered that they
00:54:14.160
had put me on a terrorism watch list with TSA. So I now have a status, which is called quad S or SSSS,
00:54:22.960
which means I am allowed to fly. I'm not on a no fly list, but I'm on the highest level terrorism
00:54:30.780
list. You can be on and still be allowed to fly. So when I go to the airport, it takes about two to
00:54:36.340
three hours now to be able to get on an airplane. Because when I'm going through security, they,
00:54:43.300
they cordon off a security lane just for me. And they have a team of about eight or nine TSA agents
00:54:51.120
come over and they, uh, they take pictures of my boarding passes. They take pictures of my ID.
00:54:57.560
They take every single item out of my bag and swab it and test it in a machine that tests for
00:55:03.360
explosive materials. Uh, they do full body pat downs, which include putting their hands down my
00:55:09.160
pants, uh, and you know, groping every inch of my body. Uh, I have to go through the metal detectors
00:55:15.680
and the scanners multiple times. The process takes several hours. And then when that's finished,
00:55:21.700
when I'm finally cleared to go to my gate, they have a team of agents follow me around the airport
00:55:28.880
everywhere I go. Sometimes they have dogs. And if I sit down at my gate to wait for my, my flight to
00:55:35.240
start boarding, they'll have agents stationed all around me there at the gate. And when they finally
00:55:41.320
start boarding the flight, they bring a special machine to the gate and they give me another full
00:55:47.880
body pat down again at the gate. And they once again, take my bag and swab and test every item
00:55:54.280
inside of my bag at the gate. And then they swab my hands and my feet. And they do this in front of
00:55:59.620
all of the other passengers who are watching and thinking that they're getting on a plane with the
00:56:03.300
Unabomber. And this is every time I travel now. And if there's a connecting flight, they do it at the
00:56:09.720
connecting gate. Again, this is over a misdemeanor. A plea deal. A nonviolent misdemeanor charge.
00:56:17.200
Yeah. So I want to say to you, Brandon, I thank you for sharing this, this awful story
00:56:26.840
with this audience. America needs to know what this is. We talk on this, on this podcast almost daily
00:56:36.980
about a, an administration that is Marxist left posing as Democrat, uh, a, an administration that
00:56:46.980
is authoritarian to the point of being totalitarian. Uh, and this is for the Republican party and
00:56:53.820
certainly independence. This is no contest between the left and the right. This is no contest
00:56:59.380
between Republicans and Democrats. This is a contest, uh, for control of this country. Uh, and this,
00:57:07.100
this administration, these, this democratic party, uh, means to take control, uh, of the entire country.
00:57:16.680
There is no room in this country, uh, for our constitution, our bill of rights, the respect for
00:57:23.140
one another as citizens, uh, because the left intends quite a different outcome. Uh, right. What we
00:57:30.760
always give our guests, and I want to say this, we're going to put your, uh, uh, all of your, uh,
00:57:36.580
information on how to get to, uh, your video, uh, to your social media, uh, so that everyone can have a
00:57:44.320
direct link to you, uh, uh, and that'll be there till further notice. I'll put it that way. Uh, and
00:57:51.800
now our pleasure. And, uh, again, my, uh, my profound respect for the way in which you have handled
00:57:58.380
yourself, uh, throughout. I know, uh, I know that this has had to be difficult, uh, even after the
00:58:05.480
experience because of the temptation, uh, I'm sure to, to set things right rhetorically or, or through your
00:58:12.960
actions. And so I, I just applaud you. Uh, thank you. I, we have a custom here. We always give our
00:58:20.420
guests the last word and we've reached that point. Uh, you have the last word as you wish.
00:58:27.340
Well, thank you. I guess the last word that I would say here is that despite how harrowing, I think my
00:58:32.800
story and my experience has been, I want people ultimately to know that my, when I look into the
00:58:40.600
future, I see something that is very bright and very hopeful. And what I want people to take away
00:58:45.480
from my story more than just being shocked or horrified or scared or afraid is I want people
00:58:53.300
to see that I went through this, I survived it and I'm moving on and I'm going to continue to do the
00:58:59.800
work that I do. And I think this is an important lesson for conservatives because we allow ourselves
00:59:05.240
as conservatives to be, uh, I think suspended, uh, by fear. And I don't want people to be afraid.
00:59:12.120
I want people to see that you can have your life annihilated the way that I did. And you still keep
00:59:17.300
going on. And with that, my organization walk away, uh, we're throwing our first live events in Beverly
00:59:23.940
Hills on May 21st. For anybody listening, if you're in the California area, please, or even if you're not in
00:59:30.400
the California area, please go to walkawaycampaign.com, click events and take a look, just come out,
00:59:39.000
be a part of it. It is going to be a beautiful, joyful celebration of freedom of optimism for our
00:59:45.560
future. Looking forward, walkawaycampaign.com. Please be there. Uh, the other thing I'll say is
00:59:52.280
that if anybody wants to help assist in any way with my legal defense fund or if they want to watch
00:59:58.340
my video that I've been describing, they can go to my website, which is brandonstrock.com. And my last
01:00:05.600
name is spelled S-T-R-A-K-A. There's that peculiar extra A at the end of my name, which confuses people,
01:00:13.360
brandonstrock.com. And that's it. Thanks, Lou. Brandon's website is a little tricky. It's
01:00:19.500
brandonstrock.com. But his last name has a silent A at the end of it. It's brandonstrock.com. And his
01:00:32.940
organization is walkawaycampaign.com. His is a story of real strength in the face of overwhelming
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government power and Marxist left-dim ideologues intent on waging an assault on the American right
01:00:47.120
and citizens with whom they have a political argument. It truly is a battle for the country.
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Tomorrow, we'll be talking with Jack Posobiec, conservative social media star and great American.
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Please be with us here tomorrow for the Great America Show. Till then, thanks for joining us.