JIM JORDAN SAYS BRAGG BROUGHT THIS CASE NO ONE ELSE WOULD, ONLY AFTER TRUMP ANNOUNCED HEāS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. ELECTION INTERFERENCEļ¼
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The question of the day: Can a DA in New York City really successfully indict a former president on charges related to hush money given by an attorney to a porn star who alleges she did business with the former president? Quite a mess.
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Hello everybody, I'm Lou Dobbs. This is the Great America Show and great to have you with us.
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Welcome all. A lot going on in the world, but there are few places quite as interesting as
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America right now. The United States being blamed for a contagion of woke disease
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that has infected Europe. By the way, famed biologist, scientist, atheist Richard Dawkins
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declaring to Brit Piers Morgan that there are only two sexes as a matter of science. Let me repeat
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that, that there are only two sexes as a matter of science, declaring that's all there is to it.
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The woke folks and the PCers taking a hit from science. Governor DeSantis taking a hit himself
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as he lashed out at President Trump. As a result, DeSantis drops to his lowest point of popularity,
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26% in the morning consult poll. President Trump at 54%, more than double DeSantis.
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And ours is truly a nation caught up in a vortex of competing, conflicting political forces these
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days. And the big question of the day appears to be, can a mayor district attorney in New York City
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really successfully indict a former president on charges related to hush money given by an attorney
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to a porn star who alleges she did business with the former president? Quite a mess, huh? Well, we'll see
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more next week. You and I both know, as does anyone with a triple digit IQ, that this is a sordid invention
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invention by the Marxist Dems to distract the public from the congressional investigations of President
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Biden and his family. And the Republicans have responded in kind, demanding the Marxist Dem
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district attorney, the Soros-funded and obligated Alvin Bragg appear before the House Judiciary Committee
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by tomorrow. Our guest is the chairman of that committee, Congressman Jim Jordan. And Congressman,
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it's great to have you with us. And thanks for all that you and your committee are doing for the
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country. Mr. Chairman, give us your thoughts, if you will, about what was unthinkable in this country
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just a week ago. Well, I mean, at first, I think there's just sort of the general, this is crazy. This is
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ridiculous. And I think so many people across the country who have common sense understand it. I mean,
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remember, the Department of Justice chose not to bring any action against this when they looked into
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this situation a long time ago. The Federal District of New York chose not to take any action. The previous
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Manhattan district attorney, Mr. Vance, wasn't going to take any action, didn't take any action. And even current
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DA, Alvin Bragg, when he gets the job, says, we're not going to do it. And then what happened? What changed?
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Donald Trump announces he's running for president. The left goes crazy. And suddenly Alvin Bragg decides
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to do what he already determined he wasn't going to do because there's no case there.
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And who is this? Who is he basing this on? Who's his star witness? Michael Cohen, a guy who went to
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prison for lying, who lied in front of our committee, the oversight committee a few years ago, lied six
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times when he testified in front of Congress. So I think the country sees it for what it is. It's
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ridiculous. We'll see if Mr. Bragg goes ahead and indict. We'll just have to wait and see.
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If he does indict, well, first your judgment about whether he will or will not. I'm asking you to,
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I understand, predict the future. But your thoughts about what is his disposition now, having heard
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Robert Costello, Michael Cohen's attorney, who called him a convicted perjurer, as you said,
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before your committee. And secondly, a pathological liar.
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Yeah, I don't know. I mean, only Mr. Bragg and I guess his staff understand what he may or may not
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do here. I just think it's, you know, first of all, think of this, think of it in this list light
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too. Here's Alvin Bragg in a city with now record levels of crime, who downgrades most of the felonies
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to misdemeanors. The felony cases he brings to trial, he loses half of those. Going after a former
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president, now presidential candidate, the leading candidate in the polls, based on the, based again,
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as we said before, on the testimony of Michael Cohen, it makes no sense. But, you know, today's
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left, who would have thought they'd have raided the home of President Trump 91 days, 90 days before
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the midterm elections? So again, we've seen things from this, the Democrats and the left today that
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we never thought we witnessed in our country. So I hope it doesn't happen, but, you know, I guess
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we're just going to have to wait and see. Point well taken. Given what the Marxist Dems are doing
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almost every day, it's impossible to think there's something unthinkable about their decisions
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and their choices. The relationship between the federal government here and the state or the
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Manhattan DA, there was a time where the presidents were respected that it was an unwritten law that
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they would never be charged unless they were the most serious of felonies. What happened?
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Yeah, the left. So I would just say this is today's Democrat. You know, my colleague said this well,
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but think about the last several elections. In 2016, you had the left and the Democrats just
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spying on President Trump's campaign. 2018, it was the Mueller investigation. 2020, of course,
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it was what the big tech, big media, and the left all did with the laptop. 2022, as we said before,
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they raided President Trump's home 91 days before the election. And now here we are in 2024,
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the leading contender for president, the former president, announced candidate, the only formally,
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again, well, there's maybe two, I guess, formally announced candidates. They're now talking about
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prosecuting him for something that, you know, some alleged incident from 20, 27 years ago. So
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I don't know. I just, that's today's left. And it's scary. You couple all this with what we've
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learned about through the Twitter files, what they were doing with free speech rights and how they were,
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big government was pressuring big tech to, and big media to limit information. I mean, it's just,
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it's a scary situation. And it's why, it's why I'm so in favor of President Trump running and winning
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and support him because he's proven he's willing to stand up and fight against this kind of thing.
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He has. And I suppose that the Dems, from their perspective, if I may, may just,
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the Marxist Dems have never been punished. They haven't been punished for anything they did
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in the Russian collusion hoax, the effort to frame President Trump, their success in framing
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his national security advisor, General Michael Flynn. Two special counsel investigations,
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one still underway. Two impeachments failed. Three to four, almost four years of FBI investigation.
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My Lord, what does it take? And why, and why can't it, why can't there be an accounting for such
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horrible conduct? Well, we're, we're, you're right. I was thinking about that too, Lou, the,
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you know, with, with President Trump, first it was, it was the Russia collusion. Then it was,
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you know, then it was his phone call with the Linsky. And of course, then they wanted his tax returns.
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And then he went all his business records and then he went after his children. And now that,
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now it's this, but you're right. It never seems to be that when, when the left engages in all this,
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that they get held accountable. That is one of the things we're trying to do though, this Congress
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in, in all the committees under the Speaker McCarthy and Republican controlled house now
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is everyone do oversight and get the facts on the table. And then when you get all the facts on the
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table, it's not just to, not just to, you know, show the fact, but you show the facts first and then
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you say, okay, what can we do legislatively that will help remedy? Cause we can't prosecute anyone
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if they did wrongdoing only the, you know, only the justice department can do that, but we got to
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get the facts on the table, get the truth out there. Cause that's step one in stopping this
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egregious behavior, where we think actually these agencies have been turned against the very people,
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the American people who they're supposed to serve, get the facts on the table, then propose
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legislation that says, you know what, we're, this is how we can solve this.
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Importantly, you use the appropriations process and you say, we're not going to send funds
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to an agency that engages in, in this kind of, we're going to say no money can be used for
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this. Here's a great example, the, the, the department of Homeland security, no way can any
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money be used to help form in the future, anytime a disinformation governance board where, where you
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have people focusing on what is misinformation, malinformation, all this stuff. No, we're not
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going to allow that. So you use the appropriations process too. And that's one of the things we're
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really going to, I think, have to focus on this Congress.
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Is, do you have the ability to do it unilaterally or does, but, uh, no, we'll have to, but we'll
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have to stand firm. I want to say, look, we're going to appropriate money to the department of
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Homeland security, which we need to, I mean, that, that, that border everything else. But if we're
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going to do that, we're going to limit how months of funds can be spent and say, no money can be
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spent for this. You know, this is, again, this was the agency that tried to set up a, a disinformation
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governance board as if some federal bureaucracy can tell us what's appropriate speech, what isn't,
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that is so contrary to the first amendment. Um, so we're going to have to use that authority,
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which the founders understood was supposed to be the primary authority the Congress had and
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specifically the house of representatives, because that's the body where, where every tax and spending
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bill has to originate. Um, that's how the, that's how our constitutional system works. So we better
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understand that and use that authority that the founders, the founders intended us to use.
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If you would, Mr. Chairman, give us an understanding of your letter. I thought a powerful, uh, letter,
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uh, that you and chairman Comer, uh, sent asking Alvin Bragg to appear before your committee, uh, and,
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and setting Thursday as the deadline. Tell us how this, what you expect as a result.
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Well, we'll see what we hear from him on Thursday, but we simply ask for, we want to know the
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documents. We want to know any communications you may have had with the department of justice. We
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want to know what funds you may have used because we know the department of justice sends out all
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kinds of money to, to, uh, uh, district attorneys around the country, grant money and everything
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else. We want to know, and that money is obviously fungible. We want to know where, where federal
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resources used in this, did this stem out of, did this grow out of the Mueller special counsel
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investigation, which looked at this four years ago, did it grow out of that? And if so,
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that may impact what we have to do legislatively as well on the special counsel statute and how that,
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how that concept works. So that is the, the, the federal concern. And then just the fundamental
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idea that here we have something that a case that no one else would take. And yet now you are after
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you're saying, you're going to do this after president Trump announced he was going to run
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for president. That sure looks like potential election interference there as well. And that's
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something that that's why house administration chairman Ryan style signed onto the lead, uh, to
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the letter as well, because that is, that is a jurisdiction that the house administration has,
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um, um, uh, in, in their committee. So that's why we're asking for it. And, and frankly, just part of
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it's just the unprecedented nature of something like this. And as we said today, if the Democrats can go
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tell local police departments, how they have to operate, we're not allowed to inquire how a DA
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is deciding that they're going to prosecute the former president and the front runner in the,
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in the current presidential race. I think that's a pretty weak argument we're hearing from the
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Democrats. It's a pretty weak argument is also frighteningly, uh, upside down. Uh, and it appears
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that we have a government right now that is not, I don't believe the founders and, uh, and all who
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have, uh, preceded this generation of Americans in, in, in public service in the government ever
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contemplated that we would see what we are looking at now are using law, using regulations, uh, for
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political purpose, weaponizing the government, uh, your, your committee, uh, your subcommittee on
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weaponization. Uh, these are critically important issues. And I, I have to say without the 118th
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Congress, uh, Republican led and, uh, with you, uh, leading judiciary and the weaponization committee,
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uh, I think the country would be in, uh, uh, woeful, even more woeful shape than we are your thoughts.
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Well, look, our job is to get, get, as I said, get the facts on the table and then, and then take
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those facts and say, what can we do with passing legislation in a, in a legislative form? Remember we're
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a legislature, we're the Congress, but that's, that's our primary responsibility to pass law
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that makes sense, that's good for the country, good for we, the people, and then actually
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appropriate the funds. That's, those are our responsibilities. So we have to, those two key
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functions, we have to use those in the appropriate way to limit again, where government has been
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turned against the American people. There are countless examples, almost sometimes it becomes
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overwhelming when you think about it, but just think about the idea that you had the Richmond
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field office of the FBI saying, if you're a traditional Catholic, we're going to treat
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you as a domestic extremist. Like what, where, where did that come from? That is so contrary
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to the first amendment. Like you, you had, we're going to, uh, the whole issue of parents
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being targeted by the FBI, the whole issue of, think about what happened last week, Luke,
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two weeks ago in a 48 hour timeframe, we learned Chuck Schumer goes to the floor of the Senate
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and says to Rupert Murdoch, don't let Fox play the January 6th videos. The next day,
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House Republicans in the Judiciary Committee, we released a report that, that shows the FTC
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targeted a private company, Twitter, run by Elon Musk, sent him a dozen letters in a, in a three
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month timeframe. And in those letters, they ask, who are the journalists you're talking to?
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Name four journalists personally. The following day, two of those journalists testified in our committee,
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in the Judiciary Committee and Democrat members of Congress, ask those two journalists,
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who are your sources? That all happened in a 48 hour timeframe. That's frightening. I mean,
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that is such an attack on the first amendment coming from elected officials, coming from the
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Biden administration. That is crazy. So this is what we're up against. And it's important that
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the work you do, making sure the country understands it. I was out and about this weekend and people
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come up to me and I keep doing it. What they're doing to our country is wrong. This, this aggressive
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thing we're seeing from these, this administration is wrong. So that's what's at stake. And that's,
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that's how we're, that's how we're going to proceed. Well, I, I just want to compliment you
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and congratulate you and thank you. And all of the committee heads who are charging ahead,
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trying to get to, to the reality and the, the corrupt, if you will, subterranean forces at work
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against our government and our nation. I want to ask you in the case of Alvin Bragg,
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one other thought. And that is communications with George Soros, because he has played such a role
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in putting these act left Marxist, leftist prosecutors in place around the country, including
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Alvin Bragg. Any communications with intermediaries between Soros and those prosecutors and specifically
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Bragg, how far will your, your investigation go? That's a question I'd love to ask him if,
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if, if, if we get to that point, I would love to ask him, like, you know, how much, uh, how much
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Soros money was involved in, in, in your election campaign? That's, I think that's a, that's a,
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that's a valid question that the country would like to know. Um, those are the kinds of questions I
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think people, people would like to have an answer to. Uh, but what we mostly want to know, frankly,
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is what we put in that letter, like what kind of communication did you have with the, with the
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department of justice? Yeah. And, uh, as with, uh, Soros, the questions become what has become
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obviously a, a real, a real issue. And that is the role of not, uh, nonprofits in this country, uh,
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NGOs, uh, they're being used, uh, basically to create with, uh, huge, um, money donors. Uh,
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they're creating, uh, a, a, a secondary government, a shadow government that has the power to,
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to blunt the power of our constitutional government. Your thoughts on this as we, as we,
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well, this is, this was a great point. Yeah. Great point, Lou. This was, uh, the, the point made in
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our, in our committee hearing two weeks ago, uh, Mr. Schellenberger, one of the journalists
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targeted by the FTC, uh, and Mr. Taibbi, they, they talked about, and I think it's a term Mr.
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Schellenberger put together. They talked about the censorship industrial complex and it's big
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government, big tech, big media, and these NGOs, as you point out, these not-for-profit,
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these organizations out there that get a bunch of government money and then also weigh in on the
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narrative, or they'll go pressure media to cover things a certain way, or they'll, they'll,
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they'll put out information that the media then picks up and then the media then, then, then,
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then runs with that narrative. It's, it's, it's sort of like this, this whole thing with what
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Fusion GPS did with, with the dossier and how that became a mainstream media story. And it was all
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garbage. It was all garbage. So yeah, yeah, this is a scary thing that's happening. Uh, and we,
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the Twitter files have really begun to expose that, um, that cozy relationship or this censorship
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industrial complex as Mr. Schellenberger termed it. And one other entity in all of that, and that's
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the lawfare, uh, these, uh, Democrat law firms in particular, it seems that Republicans are a little,
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uh, behind the curve on having Republican law firms, but when the Democrats can have portals to
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the FBI and their firms as, uh, Perkins Coy, uh, it's, it's really amazing. Thanks for everything
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you're doing, Congressman. We appreciate it. And, uh, uh, we wish you all, uh, Godspeed.
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Congressman Jim Jordan, a great American. And thank you everybody for being with us. Please join us here
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tomorrow when our guest will be former national security agency, intelligence analyst and
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whistleblower Russ Tice, as we continue our conversations with Russ on the surveillance
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state that America has become the extent of that surveillance and the threat posed to the very
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foundation of this country that's here tomorrow. Please be with us till then. God bless you and God bless