The Great America Show - September 26, 2023


KASH PATEL: “GOVERNMENT GANGSTERS”


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

168.07848

Word Count

6,323

Sentence Count

432

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Will they or won't they? The Democratic Party is in a pickle and Joe Biden is at the center of it all. Will he be impeached over a few phone calls? Or will he be allowed to continue to serve as Vice President?


Transcript

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00:01:15.020 Hello, everybody. This is the Great America Show. I'm Lou Dobbs.
00:01:26.060 Welcome and great to have you with us.
00:01:28.560 Will they or won't they?
00:01:30.180 The House Republicans are in a fight for their integrity, credibility and electability.
00:01:35.560 They're in a fight for the republic.
00:01:37.720 Facing what could be a funding crisis, Speaker Kevin McCarthy's career also hangs in the balance.
00:01:44.800 Because if he turns tail and funds the Biden regime with a new budget,
00:01:49.780 the Republicans will lose considerable public support.
00:01:53.240 They even have public support.
00:01:55.440 The Washington Post poll showing most voters will blame Democrats for any government shutdown.
00:02:00.880 But the Republicans have no apparent consensus or strategy.
00:02:06.160 Here's Congressman Matt Gaetz on Fox News making it clear Republicans have to take on all of the important issues,
00:02:13.880 whether it be securing the border or defunding junkyard jackal special counsel, Jack Smith.
00:02:20.660 I think we ought to fight on all fronts.
00:02:22.560 I think the border is very important.
00:02:24.320 And the best way for us to advance the Republican border policies is to pass the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Bill.
00:02:30.580 Do that along with veterans, defense, ag, state and foreign ops.
00:02:34.100 We'll have 73 percent of the discretionary budget funded.
00:02:37.380 And if, you know, the Department of Labor and Education have to shut down for a few days as we get their appropriations in line,
00:02:43.220 that's certainly not something that is is optimal.
00:02:46.440 But I think it's better than continuing on the current path we are to America's financial ruin.
00:02:51.380 Will McCarthy side with the Marxist Dems or will he hold up his promise to only put forward single subject bills?
00:02:59.060 President Trump stands with Gaetz and the Freedom Caucus.
00:03:02.840 President Trump says the Republicans lost in the debt ceiling fight and got nothing
00:03:07.720 and tells the Republicans unless they get everything they want this time, they should shut down the government.
00:03:14.980 Go, Mr. President.
00:03:16.360 The recent polls show why Marxist Dems are looking for ways to jettison President Biden.
00:03:22.620 It's an absolute collapse for Biden in the polls.
00:03:25.760 But Congressman Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, a loyal wingman for Biden on Meet the Press,
00:03:32.160 he was asked about the Biden impeachment inquiry and why it was that Joe Biden was on the phone 20 times with his son's business associates.
00:03:41.940 Clyburn says there's nothing wrong with that.
00:03:44.200 Joe Biden was just being a father to his son.
00:03:48.800 Yet President Biden, according to one witness testimony, was on the phone 20 times with Hunter Biden's business associates.
00:03:56.360 It was described as pleasantries.
00:03:57.880 But is that appropriate?
00:03:59.860 Well, his associates said there were pleasantries, but I think it's appropriate to be a father to your son.
00:04:03.720 And if your son is having a problem and we all know the history of the problem that Hunter has with addiction and he is being a father to his son,
00:04:17.360 you don't impeach a man for being a father to his children.
00:04:21.120 Clyburn says Biden shouldn't be impeached over a few phone calls.
00:04:24.880 That's a little ironic, don't you think?
00:04:26.760 Coming from a Marxist-Stim congressman who was insisting on impeaching President Trump over just one phone call,
00:04:34.740 talking with President Zelensky, asking him to investigate obvious Biden corruption.
00:04:41.620 Clyburn was also asked about those dismal poll numbers for the Biden regime,
00:04:45.740 including a 39 percent approval rating for Joe Biden, a 31 percent approval rating for Vice President Kamala Harris.
00:04:53.640 Clyburn didn't hesitate with his answer, declaring Kamala's numbers are so bad,
00:04:58.980 not because of her odd behavior and word salad utterances,
00:05:04.180 but because she is a woman of color and the first female vice president.
00:05:09.500 Do you buy that?
00:05:10.520 Well, Clyburn was absolutely unembarrassed to play the race card like it's a trump card, pun intended.
00:05:18.300 When you compare the first woman of color and first woman to be vice president of the United States
00:05:25.720 and compare that to all of the history before, you will get that.
00:05:30.600 I think that during this campaign, she would demonstrate as she did in that hall last night,
00:05:35.500 that she knows exactly what she's doing.
00:05:37.760 She has the capacity and the capability to be president of the United States if called upon to do so.
00:05:45.900 It seems as if the Marxist Dems are scrambling because 2024 is approaching fast.
00:05:51.820 And President Trump is more popular today than ever,
00:05:55.060 campaigning yesterday in Somerville, South Carolina, where he said 2024 is our final battle.
00:06:02.320 2024 is our final battle.
00:06:04.400 With you at my side, we will demolish the deep state.
00:06:08.000 We will expel the warmongers.
00:06:11.080 Get them all out of our government.
00:06:12.960 We will drive out the globalists.
00:06:14.700 We will cast out the communists, the Marxists, the fascists.
00:06:19.260 And we will throw off the sick political class that hates our country.
00:06:23.260 We will rout the fake news media.
00:06:25.360 Those people right there, they're fake.
00:06:27.080 So many of them.
00:06:28.200 We will evict Joe Biden from the White House.
00:06:30.640 We will continue and we will finish the draining of the swamp once and for all.
00:06:38.560 The great silent majority is rising like never before.
00:06:42.580 And that is happening.
00:06:43.500 I've never seen.
00:06:44.380 I've never seen spirit or enthusiasm like we have this time, more so than 2020, more so than 2016.
00:06:51.880 And we had a lot.
00:06:52.940 We had it in records, but it's never.
00:06:55.200 Because now they see how bad these people are.
00:06:57.940 They're evil.
00:06:58.660 They're sick.
00:06:59.260 And under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer.
00:07:05.560 With your help, your love, and your vote, we will put America first.
00:07:09.640 And we will make America great again, bigger and better than ever before.
00:07:16.980 America and the rest of the civilized world are obviously desperate for President Trump's return to the White House.
00:07:23.560 The Marxist Dems are a corrupt political party, the most corrupt in history, a corrupt enterprise in so many ways.
00:07:32.040 The Department of Justice has charged the chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, for example, Bob Menendez, with bribery and corruption.
00:07:40.500 But the interesting thing is, this is the second time they've done that.
00:07:44.540 In less than a decade, Menendez has been indicted for corruption.
00:07:49.340 And he's still the chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee.
00:07:52.720 The Dems are in on the deal.
00:07:55.820 Menendez held a press conference to tell America he is innocent and that anyone who has rushed a judgment,
00:08:03.120 you have done so on a limited set of facts that have been framed by the prosecutors to be as salacious as possible.
00:08:11.160 As if those gold bars and a half million dollars in cash with the DNA of the alleged conspirator aren't enough.
00:08:19.120 That is salacious, but it's also maybe just fact.
00:08:23.720 The senators retained attorney Abby Lowell for the second time.
00:08:28.080 Menendez first retained Lowell back in 2015 when he was charged for almost the same thing, corruption certainly.
00:08:35.680 That case ultimately went away, as there was an acquittal and the DOJ dropped all federal charges just a few years later in 2018.
00:08:44.940 The name Abby Lowell may ring a bell for some.
00:08:48.160 It just so happens to be the same attorney that Hunter Biden retained.
00:08:52.440 I'm sure it's just a coincidence that all of these Marxist Dems are using the same attorney.
00:08:57.860 Turning to our guest today, Kash Patel, the author of the brand new book, and I mean brand new.
00:09:02.960 This is his publication date for Government Gangster, subtitle, The Deep State, The Truth, and the Battle for Our Democracy.
00:09:12.040 Kash, congratulations, first of all, on the book.
00:09:14.940 And today is your publication date, and we're honored to have you on the show for such an important day.
00:09:21.520 I have to tell you, I think we've been talking about this book for, what, six months?
00:09:25.760 And finally, the big day is here.
00:09:28.420 Congratulations, my friend.
00:09:30.540 Thanks so much, Lou.
00:09:31.440 I'm honored to be breaking my publication launch date on your show.
00:09:35.300 You've been generous to talk about it for the last eight, nine months, if you can believe it.
00:09:39.040 But that's what it took.
00:09:40.100 Has it really been that long?
00:09:41.780 A Biden blockade and a federal lawsuit just to get my book out.
00:09:44.920 But it's out.
00:09:45.880 Government Gangsters.
00:09:46.820 You guys can all get your copies.
00:09:48.160 I thank you.
00:09:48.940 We recommend the book to you, ladies and gentlemen.
00:09:51.420 I assure you, Kash Patel with a terrific new book.
00:09:55.180 It is called Government Gangsters, The Deep State, The Truth, and the Battle for Our Democracy.
00:10:00.060 It is, and by the way, it's not hyperbole.
00:10:03.480 The subtitle is often the subtitles are.
00:10:05.920 This is the straight dope from a guy who lives it and lived it.
00:10:12.000 So tell us about your, if you will, your lawsuit right now.
00:10:17.140 I'm fascinated by a number of things that you're involved in.
00:10:20.260 But suing the FBI, the Department of Justice, because they went after your personal records.
00:10:25.700 When you were doing some fairly important work on intelligence and for the President of the United States, tell us about the status of your lawsuit.
00:10:34.780 Yeah, absolutely.
00:10:36.300 So when I was running the House-led Russiagate investigation for the House Intel Committee and then Chairman Nunes as a senior congressional staffer, I remember in January of 2018 when we sat down with then Attorney General Rosenstein and Director Chris Ray of the FBI, Devin Nunes and I were threatened with an investigation of us.
00:10:58.340 We were threatened with subpoenas because we had uncovered the corruption at the FBI and DOJ.
00:11:04.400 And remember, Rod Rosenstein was the one that signed the most corrupt FISA warrant, which was later rescinded.
00:11:09.420 And what would surprise us was not just that threat, but four years later, Google, of all people, called me or emailed me and said, hey, our five-year windows expired.
00:11:19.960 We wanted to let you know that the DOJ five years ago subpoenaed all of your records pursuant to a federal investigation.
00:11:27.640 So not only did Rod Rosenstein and Chris Ray lie to our faces because they had already issued the subpoenas months ago, they had done so baselessly.
00:11:36.100 And so once I found out, I put together a legal team and we filed a lawsuit against the current director of the FBI, Rod Rosenstein, FBI DOJ officials, one of the current special counsels in Robert Herr, because the American public deserves to know what other corruption the FBI DOJ were doing.
00:11:53.140 We were investigating the cops and they used lawfare to try to put us down and I'm going to take their depositions.
00:11:59.780 I'm going to get all the discovery and we're going to put it out for the American people.
00:12:02.740 We filed a lawsuit about a week ago and, yeah, it's gaining steam.
00:12:08.360 Well, how long do you think it's going to take to get to, if you will, discovery?
00:12:12.100 Well, we have to we have to battle the behemoths and the swamp monsters in D.C.
00:12:17.060 And I'm hoping we get there in a couple of months.
00:12:19.140 But the lawsuit is live and we'll see what they say.
00:12:22.640 They'll probably say, you know, we thought cash was an agent of Russia back then, just like his boss, Devin Nunes and Donald Trump or some nonsense.
00:12:29.460 You know, they'll come up with something. And it's not a Republican and Democrat thing.
00:12:32.320 That's the irony of it all. You would think Congress would be supremely ticked off that a senior staffer.
00:12:38.900 And I wasn't the only one, Lou. That's the other thing.
00:12:41.180 There was half a dozen other people surveilled during a constitutional congressional oversight matter.
00:12:46.840 But, of course, it's selective.
00:12:49.880 And when all roads lead to Donald Trump, then you are just guilty by association of being an American.
00:12:55.980 Yeah. And American is the last thing you want to be when confronting the Marxist Dems in the deep state, as you well know.
00:13:03.880 If you're pro-America, if you are a patriot and if you love this country and intend for this great republic to survive the madness of these Marxist Dems in this era, I think about it, Cash.
00:13:17.300 I mean, we're talking about now almost a decade of persecution of President Trump, a conspiracy of the deep state, the Department of Justice, the intelligence agencies, the FBI, the Congress of the United States,
00:13:33.080 the Democrat, the Marxist Democrats, who conspired with all of the forces arrayed against the American people and their representatives and their president.
00:13:48.600 It's just it's stunning to think that we're sitting here just sort of mouth breathing, watching all of this whirl by and no one's doing a damn thing.
00:13:58.000 And last and least of all would be the Republican leadership in the United States Congress.
00:14:03.360 This is a pathetic moment and a tragic moment, I fear, for the republic.
00:14:09.640 Well, I think I think you're right. And I don't mean to laugh it off.
00:14:13.300 You know, look what's happening. We've already punted once on the debt ceiling and the Republicans caved.
00:14:19.140 And now we won't have that fight until after the 2024 election, sending the Democrats a win.
00:14:24.340 Now they want to talk about a continuing resolution to extend government operations when we should have been on the offense for the last year while we've had the majority in the House and people are starting to fold.
00:14:35.560 Now, I saw some brave warriors in the in the Congress are willing to step up and defeat any continuing resolution that does not eliminate spending to Ukraine and does not eliminate these government gangsters like Ray and Garland from creating a two tier system of justice.
00:14:52.180 I just don't know that we're going to have enough of great America first warriors there to carry this agenda forward without Congress caving like it usually does.
00:15:02.000 And all the Republicans care about is the political blame game and what they're going to be told and written about in the media rather than standing up for an economy that is imploding in government expenditures that are running away at levels we have never seen.
00:15:15.900 And we are literally funding our own demise by bloating up these government institutions even more who have weaponized justice, who have rigged elections and who have censored free speech, all in the name, quote unquote, of getting Donald Trump.
00:15:30.840 All in the name of getting Donald Trump.
00:15:32.840 And now here we are.
00:15:34.040 You were talking about some of the patriots.
00:15:35.980 It's it's a really it's a small number.
00:15:38.920 The Freedom Caucus, not much bigger than it was, but still not big enough to tilt the vote.
00:15:46.440 It can perhaps nudge up against the vote, but it can't move the vote at this point on on the spending, the spending vote that's upcoming here this week.
00:15:57.280 We presume there'll be a vote.
00:15:58.420 I just I just here's Matt Gaetz talking on Fox News, having to explain the reality of what is the budget process and his purpose in trying to get this speaker to actually do something.
00:16:16.820 Why isn't there outrage about the fact that this this speaker of the House is as mindless and gutless and unprincipled as anyone that I and I'm talking about the his predecessor, Paul Ryan before that, John Boehner.
00:16:32.840 I mean, these are beauties that they've had in his speaker.
00:16:35.340 And then I got a kick out of who was the Don Bacon, Congressman Don Bacon said, you know, we just don't have an alternative to this Kevin McCarthy if they don't have out of that 222 Republicans.
00:16:51.400 If they don't have an alternate, an alternative to him, what in the world is to become of the Republic?
00:16:59.960 Forget about the Republican Party itself.
00:17:02.520 It's minor potatoes compared to the future of the nation.
00:17:07.180 Well, this is what the most of the people in America don't realize that Congress has come down to.
00:17:11.860 It's come down to who can raise me the most money for my next election campaign.
00:17:17.500 You know, I'm one of those people just really doesn't give a darn.
00:17:20.280 Yeah, if those little darlings can't get elected without, you know, exactly, you know, sucking on the never mind.
00:17:28.320 I'm going to leave it right there.
00:17:30.200 We're talking with Cash Patel.
00:17:32.360 He's got a wonderful, a terrific new book out.
00:17:35.340 It is called and I don't know where he got the title, but it's called Government Gangsters.
00:17:40.520 It sounds pretty apt, doesn't it?
00:17:42.680 The subtitle is The Deep State, the Truth and the Battle for Our Democracy.
00:17:46.760 And this is the publication date.
00:17:49.300 And you are your timing is perfect to go out and buy a great read by Cash Patel.
00:17:55.680 We'll be right back.
00:18:02.140 We're back talking with Cash Patel.
00:18:04.220 Cash, let me let me turn to, first of all, the book and get your sense of as you wrote the book.
00:18:10.880 And these things take time.
00:18:12.620 I've written one or two myself and you it takes a while.
00:18:16.920 And right now, has there been any change in the gangsters?
00:18:21.600 I mean, is there are there new names?
00:18:23.140 Are they the same names?
00:18:24.760 Is there a new fraud or is it the old fraud?
00:18:28.560 And give us a comparison, if you will, about when you started the book and now that you're publishing it and it's on the bookstore shelves and in Amazon and Barnes and Noble.
00:18:41.120 American gangsters, are they different personalities, people and, you know, cons?
00:18:46.800 I think, you know, it's a great question.
00:18:48.520 So I made it really easy for everybody.
00:18:50.020 I literally have an index of government gangsters at the end of the book by name and alphabetical order for the executive branch.
00:18:55.880 And I don't care if you're a Republican or Democrat, I probably call out more Republicans and Democrats.
00:19:00.140 And I think that answers your question.
00:19:02.180 I don't think they've changed.
00:19:03.860 I think it's just a new iteration of these deep swamp monsters who care more about their bottom line and how their name looks in the Hollywood headlights than they do about serving this country.
00:19:14.580 And I'm not just talking about members of Congress.
00:19:16.280 I'm talking about people in the FBI, DOJ, DOD, the espers of the world, the Gina Haspel's, the Bill Barr's, the Chris Ray's and so many of their underlings.
00:19:25.280 I wanted to name every one of these people, not because I care to antagonize them, but because they signed up to serve this country and failed.
00:19:32.320 Not only did they fail, that's one thing if you make a mistake, they intentionally violated the commander in chief's oath in lawful chain of command by blockading his policies and blockading his executive orders.
00:19:47.120 And I wanted to show America that these people don't wear an R or a D.
00:19:51.200 They just wear a D.C.
00:19:52.780 All they care about is their next.
00:19:54.400 How are we going to get paid when I get out of Washington?
00:19:56.880 Who's going to give me my golden parachute?
00:19:58.560 So we walk you through it.
00:20:00.140 We list it.
00:20:00.660 But more importantly, we show you how to solve every agency and department.
00:20:04.620 There's literally a five page shorthand at the end of the book that says these are all the measures we need to take to destroy the deep state.
00:20:12.320 And that's who these people represent forever.
00:20:14.440 Take on the media and make sure elections are never rigged again and make sure that the American people vote based on the facts and expect a government in return who represents them.
00:20:25.460 And so we're not having these debt ceiling fights and we're not having talking about CRs and we're not talking about two tiers of justice.
00:20:31.660 Instead, we're talking about how we secured the border, how we took on Iran, Russia and China and how we are funded and have a good economy and have a good budget in mind because we have people with brains who care about service and not their own egos.
00:20:45.900 You know, I don't even know if they've got much in the way of ego.
00:20:48.380 They really don't have much in the way of talent, so I can't imagine where they would have gotten, you know, some sort of narcissistic surge of probably right.
00:20:59.900 I mean, what what are they so proud of for the most part?
00:21:04.060 I'm going to be just candid as I can be.
00:21:06.160 Most of the people in that Congress are, you know, they're egg sucking conformists who just want to be led by the nose and are delighted for the privilege of doing so.
00:21:20.380 And they're going to follow Kevin McCarthy.
00:21:22.440 It looks as far as into the darkness of mediocrity and and oblivion as they can.
00:21:29.900 They just don't want to disturb.
00:21:31.780 They don't want to ripple to even move through the swamp, let alone a tsunami.
00:21:35.420 And that's what it's going to take.
00:21:37.500 Give us a hint.
00:21:38.780 What is one?
00:21:39.580 Give us one or two thoughts you have about reforming the nation's capital and the leaders of this republic.
00:21:48.480 Oh, I got a couple.
00:21:49.600 I got.
00:21:49.840 Well, there's a ton in the book.
00:21:50.880 I'm a couple.
00:21:52.140 Besides personnel, that's the obvious one.
00:21:54.440 Not just cabinet secretaries.
00:21:55.940 You got to go down 15, 20 levels and make sure you have people who are supporting the Constitution, your agenda.
00:22:01.600 Then you got to get Congress to walk in behind that and say, wait a second.
00:22:05.020 You agencies and departments, let's say FBI and DOJ, have violated half a dozen congressional subpoenas.
00:22:10.920 Why are we still funding their illegal law enforcement weaponization efforts?
00:22:16.720 Congress must go ahead and seize their funding immediately and shut down partial pockets of funding until they come to heal and provide us with the documentation that shows their own corruption.
00:22:27.580 Those are just a couple of things.
00:22:28.900 The other things we need to do are impeach federal judges who have donned the black robe of justice, but have gone out there and weaponized it and rubber stamped the efforts of Merrick Garland and these corrupt government gangsters.
00:22:41.140 These are certain things that we can do across the three branches of government to make to make basically our constitutional republic whole again.
00:22:52.500 And they're not complicated measures.
00:22:54.640 They're really not.
00:22:55.780 And it's just going to take a will of the representation in Washington and the American public to force it on them.
00:23:01.580 So that's the battle, Lou.
00:23:03.040 And that's what the book is all about.
00:23:05.040 And I think there is a way to defeat the deep state.
00:23:08.600 And it starts by also cutting down the amount of of government gangster billets there are across the board.
00:23:17.640 Serving in government is not a way to get rich.
00:23:20.220 It is a privilege.
00:23:21.600 It's not a right.
00:23:22.800 And every single department and agency can be slashed by at least 20 percent.
00:23:26.980 So we need to start doing all those things.
00:23:28.480 That would cut down, take down one point four trillion from current levels of of spending.
00:23:37.300 Of course, you have to then offset that with five trillion of, you know, you'd be almost almost what would be the deficit at that point?
00:23:48.460 Be one point six point.
00:23:50.340 You can get down to four hundred billion dollars.
00:23:53.560 And that sounds like a lot of money, but that is a huge reduction.
00:23:58.780 One point four trillion from seven trillion.
00:24:02.100 It would be wonderful if we could get it done soon.
00:24:06.260 Here's my problem.
00:24:07.540 I don't see anybody with a stomach to fight it beyond a handful of conservatives in the House.
00:24:13.720 And no one in the Senate, frankly, is standing up other than, you know, Senator Rand Paul often is there and a handful maybe of others.
00:24:24.540 But the Republican Party doesn't represent prudent fiscal management.
00:24:29.620 It doesn't represent conservative economic policies that have proved through the ages that creates a prosperous nation, a prosperous middle class.
00:24:41.860 Right now, we're we're watching as the elites in this country, despite everything Trump did in four years, the elites in this country are destroying the middle class.
00:24:51.100 They're tearing working men and women up with these insane, mad Marxist policies.
00:24:57.020 And this and the Biden administration is simply right now in the third year in the third term of the Obama presidency.
00:25:04.080 Your thoughts.
00:25:05.760 Well, that's exactly what it is.
00:25:07.220 They are just an extension of the not just the Obama ways.
00:25:11.080 They're an extension of the deep state people in Washington that try to undercut a president Trump and are trying to take him out at the knees again because they don't want him to come back into power.
00:25:23.840 And the reason they don't want him to come back into power.
00:25:26.200 And this is one of my focal points is because he took Washington, D.C. from them.
00:25:31.340 He took their golden parachutes.
00:25:33.140 He took their million dollar paydays.
00:25:34.440 He took the media.
00:25:36.180 The one thing they these cretins in Washington cannot do without is their self-adulation.
00:25:42.180 There's interviews, these endless disinformation campaigns just so their names are put up in the Hollywood Hills.
00:25:48.700 He robbed them of all that and returned this country to serving the American public.
00:25:53.680 And that's what he's on a mission to do again with his Agenda 47.
00:25:56.880 You just saw him today just do simple maneuvers.
00:25:59.340 He's over in South Carolina.
00:26:00.680 He was at a gun show and he basically held up a Glock and said, I want one and bought it.
00:26:05.700 I mean, this is a commander in chief that understands the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment and how to fight for free speech and how to fight for free and fair elections.
00:26:14.540 And people are coming into the tent and coming into the fold by the tens of thousands, I think, because you just have to look at the numbers.
00:26:22.940 Washington Post's own poll puts President Trump 10 points over Biden.
00:26:26.720 Of course, Washington Post then called it a bad poll, which is the irony of all ironies.
00:26:32.040 Yeah, I mean, that ABC, Washington Post, ABC News, Washington Post poll.
00:26:38.940 I love the fact that the internal numbers are even more devastating than that, that he wins by 10 points in a general election, which has the left wing corporate media just apoplectic, as you're pointing out.
00:26:51.660 Look at those numbers, 23 percent approval on immigration, 30 percent on the economy.
00:26:58.620 They the American people, this means that the Marxist Dems who are pushing woke got their they got their wish.
00:27:05.640 The American people are now woke.
00:27:07.940 They're woke to their nonsense, their B.S. and their lies and duplicity and the ignorance of their anti-American policies.
00:27:15.340 We're talking with Kash Patel.
00:27:17.460 His book is Government Gangsters.
00:27:19.520 And we're going to be talking about a few of them right after this.
00:27:23.920 Stay with us.
00:27:30.260 We're back.
00:27:31.060 We're talking with Kash Patel.
00:27:32.260 We're talking about government gangsters.
00:27:33.760 So I might as well just get to this.
00:27:35.540 And I'm not calling everybody in government a gangster.
00:27:38.860 But I am talking about it's, I think, a significant majority.
00:27:44.240 And so I guess what I really have to I'm going to use a number here that I think a lot of people are going to be astonished at because we're all you know, we're we're dealing with an administration.
00:27:54.520 It's all about equity, quality, diversity, you know, and that means proportionate representation.
00:28:01.620 I don't think anybody would argue with that too much.
00:28:05.360 But here's the number that I think a lot of people might be a little concerned about.
00:28:10.280 We've got about three million employees in the federal government.
00:28:13.880 But they are the permanent bureaucracy.
00:28:16.700 You can't fire them.
00:28:18.040 You can't do much with them.
00:28:19.960 You're stuck.
00:28:21.480 And by the way, what do you do when just about 95 percent of them are Democrats?
00:28:27.860 And that's the question I got for you.
00:28:30.420 What do you do when you've got an entire civil service army working for the Marxist Dems?
00:28:38.580 Well, that that that is one of the main avenues I address in government gangsters.
00:28:43.800 There's this fiction out there that that somehow this entrenchment has carried out to say you can't terminate people in government service.
00:28:52.180 That's an absolute lie.
00:28:53.840 You can't.
00:28:55.320 And we did, for example, when I was at the Office of Director of National Intelligence and I was a deputy, we shrunk its workforce by 10 percent in four months.
00:29:03.320 Nobody told us we couldn't do it.
00:29:05.140 Everybody told us we couldn't do it.
00:29:06.740 We just did it.
00:29:07.600 And like President Trump, who comes in with his Schedule F policy, which is another maneuver in in reorganizing, reorganizing the federal directorate of employees, the 98 percent of the entrenchment you're talking about.
00:29:20.200 There are multiple ways to do it.
00:29:21.620 You can get Congress to specifically zero out billets.
00:29:24.280 We did that as well.
00:29:25.340 If Congress doesn't fund the billet, there's no one to give that job to.
00:29:28.740 Or if someone had that job and there's no more money for it, they're done.
00:29:31.760 And you can do a structural reorganization and everybody that fails to uphold their ethical and constitutional oath of office, whatever agency and department they're in, you just relieve them of command.
00:29:44.060 These are things that the deep state has been fighting for so long against.
00:29:49.920 And they've come out and put out such a massive disinformation campaign that people are like, oh, you can never get fired from government.
00:29:55.580 That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
00:29:57.520 You need a willpower, not just at the White House, but at a DOJ to enforce those removals once you have justification.
00:30:05.540 And we have the justification.
00:30:07.220 These people no longer are the hidden deep state, Lou.
00:30:09.740 They are the wildly out there in your face.
00:30:13.200 I told you so deep state.
00:30:14.940 So they have given us the ammunition publicly to remove them from the roles of government.
00:30:19.040 And we must do that.
00:30:20.040 And how do you square that, Dash, with what you were talking about and which I experience as a journalist covering the story of the president's executive orders that he gave very specifically on a host of issues that were simply ignored by the deep state?
00:30:40.280 And we're talking about the political appointees, the folks who are not on a schedule, who are not civil service, who actually run the permanent bureaucracy.
00:30:52.380 And they were ignored.
00:30:54.780 And there was no consequence.
00:30:57.520 No.
00:30:58.920 Nothing was done.
00:31:00.440 Why?
00:31:00.580 And so I'm asking you this.
00:31:04.080 Like you, I want President Trump to be the president of the United States in 2025.
00:31:11.380 I want him to do everything that he has done before and even more.
00:31:16.140 But he needs an army of America first patriots and bright, hard-charging, tough, and compassionate conservatives.
00:31:28.820 Uh, where in the world is he going to get that army?
00:31:33.080 That's your, your, your, the answer to your question.
00:31:35.720 The answer is right in your question.
00:31:37.620 The bench.
00:31:38.620 Does that America first bench exist?
00:31:40.500 It does.
00:31:41.280 I know that because I've worked with them.
00:31:43.160 You've, you've talked to them, um, across this country.
00:31:46.320 And the problem we had in the first Trump administration is we installed these government gangsters at the top who permitted the deep state to operate against President Trump and his America first agenda.
00:31:58.320 And when that happened, we didn't remove them fast enough.
00:32:02.260 That's what we need.
00:32:03.180 We need leadership appointments by President Trump.
00:32:06.060 They're going to execute this agenda.
00:32:07.560 And when the agenda is not executed, the people between that and the execution of the agenda must all be removed.
00:32:14.860 We have to have a White House that's going to back that.
00:32:16.840 We will with President Trump.
00:32:17.900 And we have to have personnel packages.
00:32:20.240 And I'm personally, uh, heavily not just invested, but involved with who's coming back in when President Trump wins and at what levels because of the question you just posed.
00:32:31.300 We tried it once before with a cast of characters that were right out of Deep State 101's manual.
00:32:37.740 And that's why it failed.
00:32:39.140 Now, if you are on a list of government gangsters, as in my book, or if you are affiliated with any one of these people, you will never hold a position in a Donald Trump administration.
00:32:48.740 The other thing we've got to watch out for is the entrenchment is already working on Russiagate 27.0.
00:32:53.700 So we have to go ahead and preempt that strike and make sure we get ahead of it because we've built enough momentum and credibility with some in the media to show that we've been right about everything.
00:33:05.500 Russiagate, Ukraine impeachment 1-2, 51 Intel letter, Hunter Biden's laptop, Joe Biden and his fraud overseas, and the two-tier system of justice.
00:33:13.760 So many people are coming into the fold that is the Trump America first agenda that we just have to keep driving this machine forward.
00:33:21.620 We've got the bench.
00:33:22.500 I know it.
00:33:23.400 I've worked with them.
00:33:24.880 We got some of them through last time.
00:33:26.680 Next time, we're getting them all through.
00:33:28.480 And I'm going to help guide that mission.
00:33:31.180 Well, that is, I will tell you, that is comforting to me.
00:33:36.760 But I'm not entirely persuaded because you used the word bench.
00:33:41.920 And what you need are massive reserves in this country.
00:33:47.340 And I don't even know, when I look around the legal profession and you're an attorney and you know what I'm talking about, the legal profession in this country are filled with Marxists.
00:34:00.040 I shouldn't say Marxists, not filled with Marxists, but there is a huge number of them.
00:34:05.920 But most of the left-wingers who commend the money, the respect of the big corporate clients and affection are Marxist demps.
00:34:18.280 They're tied into everything that is happening on Wall Street.
00:34:23.180 It's happening in education, academia, our public schools, you name it, our Pentagon.
00:34:29.720 We're watching an entrenched Marxist-left ideology now that permeates our federal government.
00:34:40.040 The Marxist demps are in charge of it.
00:34:42.380 And I don't see the bench, as you put it.
00:34:45.240 I don't see a bench in law.
00:34:47.000 I don't see a bench in education.
00:34:49.000 I don't see a bench from corporate America.
00:34:51.800 I don't want them anywhere near the federal government.
00:34:54.620 I mean, they make Lenin look like a loser.
00:34:57.360 No, you're not wrong, and it raises two points I address in the book.
00:35:01.320 One, all these general counsel's offices throughout every agency and department needs to be slashed in half because these lawyers just come in there,
00:35:08.620 and they come in there to slow down and paralyze the movement of the America First Agenda.
00:35:13.900 So you're absolutely right.
00:35:15.200 Every one of these agencies and departments has these massive general counsel's offices that need to be slashed in half, if not more, on day one, and it's easily done.
00:35:22.340 The other thing I will say to you is after 16 years in government and doing Democrat and Republican administrations,
00:35:29.160 I get messages every single day from people at the FBI, at DOD, at CIA, at NSA that I used to work with,
00:35:35.360 people that I don't even know, that say, we can't wait for Trump to come back in, and so we can right this ship.
00:35:40.660 So I know these people are there.
00:35:42.960 And here's the mystery of it all.
00:35:44.440 We don't need a thousand of them.
00:35:46.120 We need to fire the thousand that are in the way and put the five in charge that are going to get the job done.
00:35:51.980 I think we can get to those numbers, and that's what I'm going to be fighting for.
00:35:56.060 Well, Cash, that is wonderful to hear, and it's a message that's going to have to be loud and clear going into 2024, as you know.
00:36:04.900 I know you're already working on that message to the American people and voters, and I appreciate everything.
00:36:10.120 And this audience, I'm sure, appreciates everything that you are doing for the president to assure that this country prevails against a fifth column that has grown to immense proportions and unimaginable power in this country.
00:36:28.540 And it's going to take Cash Patel and everyone that he can find of talent and good hearts and strong hearts to make this country work again.
00:36:39.800 Cash Patel, thanks for being with us here on The Great America Show.
00:36:43.680 The book is Government Gangsters.
00:36:46.460 We recommend it to you highly.
00:36:48.240 Available now.
00:36:49.580 Thanks so much, Cash.
00:36:50.440 Lou, as always, it's humbling and an honor to be with you, and I'm so excited that I was able to launch Government Gangsters on The Great America Show with Lou Dobbs, which, as you said, is now available, literally in your hands, at Amazon and GovernmentGangsters.com and anywhere books are sold.
00:37:07.240 And we recommend it to you highly, ladies and gentlemen.
00:37:10.360 Cash Patel, God bless you.
00:37:12.180 Thank you, sir.
00:37:12.740 Thanks, everybody, for being with us.
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