The Great America Show - KELLOGG： PUTIN NOT SUCCEEDING; FITTON： PUTIN COMPROMISED BIDEN

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America Podcast with Lou Dobbs,

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00:00:19.300 In the early days of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, we could all feel the effects of the

00:00:25.740 fog of war, the difficulties of knowing what is actually happening on the ground in Ukraine and

00:00:30.940 the cities and the capital of Kiev. In addition to the fog of war and combat, there are the offensive

00:00:37.100 undertaken in psychological and disinformation warfare, and Ukraine is the battleground for it

00:00:44.080 all. We do have some developments that are verifiable. The Russians have killed hundreds 0.87

00:00:49.760 of Ukrainians in their assault, and Ukrainians are fighting the aggressors, the invaders,

00:00:55.560 and inflicting more casualties than anyone had expected, in the Western media at least,

00:01:01.640 reports that more than 3,000 Russian troops have been killed, that the Ukrainians are in fact

00:01:08.240 putting up one hell of a fight, in fact repelling the initial Russian offensive on Kiev, and well

00:01:15.040 organized and ready to engage what the Ukrainians know will be a strong second offensive. And also, 0.84

00:01:21.860 defense and military analysts say that while the Russians aren't bogged down in their assault,

00:01:27.140 in their invasion of Ukraine, the Ukrainians have blunted the Russian attacks to this point,

00:01:33.240 and are slowing the Russians. They are now moving much slower than had been expected, which may or may

00:01:40.340 not be part of the explanation for the rumored Putin decision to participate in talks with the Ukrainians,

00:01:47.080 to send a delegation to talk with Ukrainian representatives if they so choose. But all of

00:01:53.740 that is only rumor, the fog of war, remember? But the Ukrainians' unexpectedly strong defense of their

00:02:02.180 homeland is fact, a stubborn fact, a big obstacle to Putin's desire to rebuild the Soviet Union.

00:02:10.440 To take up all of this, we have with us the former National Security Advisor to Vice President Mike Pence.

00:02:17.060 Keith Kellogg is a retired three-star general, formerly Chief of Staff and Executive Secretary

00:02:22.560 of the National Security Council. General, it is great to have you with us. What do you make of it all?

00:02:30.100 Thanks for having me. Yeah, I understand President Xi of China is pushing this as well to make sure that

00:02:35.660 it goes. You know, a little bit of this is tongue-in-cheek. I'd probably send somebody else than

00:02:39.460 Zelensky going, only because I remember, I'm old enough to remember, when the Hungarians, after the 0.99

00:02:45.920 Soviets went back into Hungary and Budapest, when they went to negotiate, the leaders were all killed.

00:02:50.840 I said, you know, I remember that pretty well still. So I said, okay, but it's, yeah, but now taking out

00:02:55.540 the old tongue-in-cheek, the answer is probably a good idea, and I'm glad they're doing that.

00:02:59.780 What it is telling me, though, Lou, is that Putin has not achieved his objectives, and that he's got

00:03:06.780 a problem. He's overreached, it looks like. They're fighting hard. He knows that Ukrainians don't 1.00

00:03:11.680 support him, will not support a rump government. He doesn't have the forces yet to go beyond the

00:03:18.000 Dnieper River in the eastern part of Ukraine, so it'll be really hard to occupy that country.

00:03:24.640 And I'm going to be, you know, as very simple as I can be. I said, if I was Putin, and this hell

00:03:29.260 happens, and they go to talks, I'd double my bodyguards, simply because I don't think the

00:03:34.860 military, the oligarchs, will support this. They'll extend themselves with all the penalty

00:03:38.980 that comes with it. They have so far been stunningly unsuccessful at what their original objectives

00:03:47.400 were, and part of that, very candidly, Lou, is he pulled his punch as Putin did. I think Putin

00:03:52.580 thought it was going to be an easy rollover, and it's not. You know, there's an old saying,

00:03:57.080 it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fighting dog. Well, I

00:04:01.700 think he bit off a lot, and I think this is not going as well as he realized, and Ukrainians 1.00

00:04:08.280 are very proud people, and they're fighting, and Zelensky, unlike Ghani, who left Afghanistan

00:04:14.720 with a lot of money and got out of there, is willing to stand and fight in Ukraine, in

00:04:19.980 Kyiv, and I've got to give him a lot of credit for that. So that was a long answer to a short

00:04:24.000 question. I think this is bad for Putin. No, it's a great answer. It is also a difficult

00:04:31.000 thing to imagine that the Ukrainians, the way that they were described to us by our own

00:04:37.920 politicians in the White House, you didn't, I think most of us didn't expect them to have

00:04:44.560 a will to fight, certainly not anything like what they have put up so far. And so the Russians, 0.50

00:04:52.180 I think, understandably, I guess, could have been surprised. They had, obviously, infiltration

00:04:57.960 throughout Ukraine, because they knew where their targets were, and they hit those targets.

00:05:04.300 What do you think?

00:05:06.240 Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. You know, I, when they line up all those forces, he's

00:05:12.160 not fighting the typical Russian way that I fight. Example, usually they did it in Georgia, 0.88

00:05:17.320 and they did it in Crimea as well. You get hit with a massive cyber attack. You wouldn't

00:05:22.800 see Zelensky on television. You wouldn't see the lights on in downtown Kyiv. You wouldn't

00:05:27.500 see a lot of things because of the simple cyber attacks on all your institutions. And

00:05:34.160 then you mass, and then you use massive force. He's only used about one third of his military.

00:05:38.160 He didn't use any cyber. And he's going to pay the price for that, because now he's lost

00:05:41.900 the initiative and lost the momentum. He's not fighting in the typical way that he is

00:05:47.620 out of the textbook Russian way of fighting. And he's going to pay a price for it. And 0.94

00:05:51.680 that's what I meant about it. He's lost momentum, because by doing that now, he's trying to

00:05:56.000 reinforce, but he's lost the visuals. And a lot of things are based on the visuals that

00:06:01.600 you see, and the entire world is going now, oh boy, they're putting up a heck of a fight.

00:06:06.000 You see that. That is a constant drumbeat of what you see across the wire. He's overextended

00:06:11.680 himself, Putin meaning, and he's not succeeding. They didn't do first aid objectives. So everything

00:06:17.460 you say is correct. He had everything massed to do it. He didn't fight the way he should

00:06:21.640 have. If I was a military commander, I would have told him, you're making a mistake by doing

00:06:26.140 this. He did it. That was his call. And I think now he underestimated Ukrainians. And

00:06:32.800 I think he's going to pay a price for it. But you're absolutely right. It's going to be

00:06:36.540 really tough to reinforce and keep the momentum going now.

00:06:40.060 And those talks, do you believe this is a ruse? Do you think he is sincere? And what really

00:06:48.200 are his objectives? It seems like at this point, he has certainly his new republics, Luhansk

00:06:55.340 and the other province are now republics, at least in the minds of the Russians. But now

00:07:03.040 he's reached to Kiev. It's a very difficult situation. It seems like a smart poker bet 0.65

00:07:10.100 to go to these talks and to take what you can get. That is what he really wanted, a partition,

00:07:17.980 what it seemed he wanted, a partition of Ukraine with Russian speakers on one side and the Ukrainians,

00:07:24.000 traditional Ukrainians on the other. Do you think that's still acceptable or what he would accept?

00:07:31.300 I think if it was Putin, I think he's trying to find a way out of this. But Zelensky has been

00:07:36.400 hard. Zelensky has said Ukraine is Ukraine. Yeah, they're not the separate republics that you see

00:07:42.040 out there. It's not Crimea. And we got to give credit to Zelensky. And the West has said they agree

00:07:48.320 with Zelensky, but they won't do anything about it. It's like, yeah, yeah, we know that Crimea is still

00:07:52.200 part of Ukraine. But but oh, you know, go sit in the corner. Don't do anything. Zelensky will be is

00:07:57.360 a very, very tough is which is amazing to me because, you know, nobody thought that of him.

00:08:02.860 But he's been pretty tough about it. So what I would do is I would send interlocutors to have a

00:08:07.920 meeting to first find out because I don't trust Putin. I trust Putin about as far as I can throw

00:08:12.700 the Empire State Building, which ain't real far. And I would say, look, let's find out what your

00:08:16.960 negotiation positions are. Here's what I would also like to have happen. If I was America and

00:08:22.300 I'd say, look, you've got to get this guy out of there, meaning Zelensky, I know he wants to stay

00:08:26.800 and fight and potentially die, but he has now become a symbol. And you want to get him to a

00:08:31.860 position where if he asked, we could stand up a rump government and be a real thorn in the side.

00:08:36.040 If you have to go to the West and go to Lviv or someplace like that, stay within the country 1.00

00:08:42.300 to protect him. I said, you know, this guy's too valuable now to be lost because I'm concerned

00:08:46.820 that Putin will try to capture Kiev, decapitate the government and put him in a cell next to

00:08:52.700 Navalny. And I don't think that would be good to do this. So I don't trust Putin. I'd send an

00:08:57.200 interlocutor. And I think the pressure is starting to build on Putin. You know, remember that Zelensky

00:09:02.860 didn't come up with this idea. The Chinese did and the Russians did. So he's got a little bit of 0.95

00:09:07.680 advantage now and I'd play it. Well, I think in terms of foreign policy and geopolitics and a

00:09:16.380 changing world order, this would be quite a stroke if he and Xi Jinping have worked out a deal to end

00:09:23.600 it here, take what he's got, that is Eastern Ukraine and call it good, which would satisfy, I think,

00:09:32.480 just about anybody, whether European or Russian or American. But because really,

00:09:40.800 Xi Jinping then becomes the dominant force globally. He and his new strategic ally of Vladimir Putin.

00:09:49.400 No, I think you're exactly right. You're 100% right. The big winner on this, if you looked at it,

00:09:54.500 will be Xi. And I've always said that I think our greatest adversary is not Russia. Our greatest

00:09:59.700 adversary that's a growing adversary is China, both economically, both militarily, politically,

00:10:05.200 diplomatically. All of this is our biggest adversary. And Xi comes out and, see, I can do

00:10:09.840 this. And, oh, by the way, President of the United States, you can't. I can make this deal work.

00:10:15.140 And that may be part of the deal where Xi looks at Putin and said, look, I came to give, you know,

00:10:18.800 we locked arms on this deal going forward. And I mean, if they could pull this off, it would be a

00:10:23.300 huge coup. It'd be an embarrassment to the United States. It'd be an embarrassment to NATO.

00:10:27.140 You know, and the sanctions are, I'm a big believer too, Lou. I'll very honestly say that

00:10:31.500 there's two bodies of thoughts on it. And my body of thought happens to be that sanctions

00:10:36.340 don't really work. They've been prepared for them for a long time. I agree with you.

00:10:39.380 They can be offset. And they were not that hard sanctions anyway. You saw our American stock

00:10:47.900 market really rise when they realized how weak the sanctions were. We just look stupid. 1.00

00:10:52.360 And to not remove Russia from SWIFT, the international financial information clearinghouse 0.99

00:11:00.500 that is critical to trade and the export of their oil, is mindless. And to not ask the

00:11:08.720 United States to not import more of their oil while we are sanctioning them, this administration 1.00

00:11:16.680 looks like utter damn fools. Your thoughts? 1.00

00:11:21.420 No, I'm absolutely right. I heard the president's speech last night. I said, boy, this is really

00:11:28.140 hard when you got hit with a wet noodle. And Putin's going to blow it off. I think, and this is

00:11:35.200 disappointing, but there is no relationship between Biden and Putin. And Putin doesn't like Biden. He

00:11:41.940 doesn't trust Biden. And Biden is part of the problem in the sense that he looked at Putin and

00:11:46.480 he said to Putin, you're a man who has no soul. He's to belittle him. And Putin doesn't like that.

00:11:54.540 The one thing about President Trump is President Trump understood who he was dealing with when he

00:11:58.200 had an adversary. I don't care if it was Putin or if it was Kim Jong-un or President Xi. He knew how

00:12:03.160 to work with him and he thought, OK, I'm going to keep the dialogue going. But you've got two now

00:12:07.820 leaders of major nuclear powers. And they're not even talking to each other because there's no

00:12:13.580 respect and no like. And that is going to cause us problems because try to pick up the phone

00:12:18.700 to call Putin if Biden is. And he may take it, but he's going to get blown off.

00:12:22.900 So we're operating from real disadvantage. The guy that was really making some headway was

00:12:27.960 Macron of France. And we've abrogated our leadership responsibility. And I blame that on President Biden.

00:12:33.180 Biden is further exposed for what he is, and that is inept and weak. The United States 0.99

00:12:39.580 is exposed for what it is, detached and unengaged. And by the way, with the state of our current

00:12:48.140 military, I am delighted that is the case, because we need time to rebuild and to retrain our military

00:12:54.380 leadership to replace it in point of fact. And I'd like to get your comment on this as we close here.

00:12:59.560 Uh, and, and NATO and Germany particularly, uh, exposed for what they are weak, feckless and

00:13:07.700 dependent. Yeah. Your thoughts. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Louie, I've been a big, I used to hammer NATO

00:13:13.840 a lot when I was with president Trump and to make the comments, I said, look, when the end of this is

00:13:17.320 done, when it's all, you know, complete, I think we just need to look, uh, and realigning NATO.

00:13:23.860 Here's what I mean is everybody knows that article five, our attack on one is attack on all. I mean,

00:13:28.320 I think, you know, third graders say that in their sleep, article five, article five,

00:13:33.920 people forget there's article three and article three, I call it the funding article. He required

00:13:38.320 to maintain both individual and collective defense based on the agreements. And they had the Wales

00:13:44.240 declaration, the Wales declaration in 2014 signed by chance from Merkel of Germany said they would,

00:13:49.740 everybody would agree within 10 years, have 2% GDP spent on defense, which is that 20%

00:13:54.320 modernization. Only one third of the nations of NATO do that. And I'd say, okay, a deal is a deal is

00:13:59.900 a deal. Germany, you're probably one of the worst offenders of this. If, if you don't put 2% in, 0.98

00:14:05.660 then article five doesn't apply. You are a secondary member of NATO and force everybody to do that.

00:14:10.480 I used to, you know, I remember when I was in your station in Germany years and years ago,

00:14:14.560 Germany had a 500,000 man army and it was feared. I used to, you know, kind of tongue in cheek say,

00:14:19.180 you want to scare the Soviets. Now the Russians armed the Germans because they always seem to 1.00

00:14:23.240 march east. And I said, but right now, even there was an article just the other day, actually a Fox

00:14:28.440 article that talked about their senior general, the most senior, they're basically their chairman

00:14:33.620 of the joint chiefs basically said that the German army is, is, is worthless. It can't fight.

00:14:38.000 It's the, I was stunned when I read that article. It was in fact, just came out the other day.

00:14:41.080 So I think NATO needs to do a relook. I think the primary members need to do some hard looking at it

00:14:46.900 on what's going forward. And because it, they look just very, very weak overall. And then you

00:14:53.180 look at the United States and don't think that foreign leaders don't look at it. They look at

00:14:56.740 what our focus is. They know we have open borders and in the South, we let that go through. It's a 0.66

00:15:02.780 woke culture. We have individual divisions going forward and it's not focused on the primary things

00:15:07.440 we should be focused on. And I think we, we, that's one of the reasons we pay a price. There's a

00:15:11.420 real fragmentation of society and our, and our opponents see that. I think people see what,

00:15:16.540 what this PC culture, this cancel culture, uh, this, uh, Marxist, uh, ideology that is the

00:15:25.080 foundation now of the radical Democrat party. Uh, we've learned a lot, I believe in these last,

00:15:31.480 uh, weeks. And, uh, I think that'll make us stronger going forward. I hope, uh, certainly,

00:15:36.440 uh, general, uh, you get the last word here.

00:15:39.340 Well, okay. I, I just think, uh, you know, when you look at, uh, what we're seeing today,

00:15:46.920 I think a lot of people out there, uh, would say, you know, I didn't really mind the mean

00:15:51.620 tweets. I think we're okay. We should have had somebody like a Trump in charge. We wouldn't

00:15:54.660 be here very candidly. Lou, you know, we wouldn't be, and I really mean this cause I was in the

00:15:58.760 white house with him for four years. We wouldn't be where we're at. It wasn't necessarily a hundred

00:16:03.080 percent deal and everything we did, but it was able to keep the hand on the tiller and keep a lot of

00:16:07.020 respect out there. And leaders, uh, you know, you know, leaders might say to him, well, we don't

00:16:13.460 respect you, but we do fear you. And I think there's nothing wrong with that. When the president

00:16:16.940 made it very clear, he would protect American interests all the time, everywhere, um, day or

00:16:22.640 night. So it is what it is. And we'll just have to deal with it. Unfortunately. Yeah. Uh, and,

00:16:27.720 and so it goes general, we appreciate it. General Kellogg, uh, you're a great American and we

00:16:34.160 delighted that you had time to talk with us and I hope you come back soon. All the best.

00:16:38.880 Thanks for having me. General Keith Kellogg. Thank you again for being with us. There are a rising

00:16:43.900 number of questions, millions of questions, it seems, but among them, whether the United States

00:16:50.460 will under this week, Biden administration come to a sense of humanitarian obligation to support

00:16:56.680 and to protect the Ukrainian people in the face of this Russian invasion of their country.

00:17:01.940 The United Nations won't. The UN has again demonstrated its capacity for both absurdity

00:17:08.480 of purpose and fatuous pronouncements on geopolitics and all too obvious institutional irrelevance. 0.96

00:17:16.760 NATO won't nor the European union, at least as long as the callous and cowardly Germans fear that 0.99

00:17:23.520 Putin will cut off their energy supplies. And the more the Ukrainian military and civilian resistance

00:17:30.540 succeed in stopping the Russian offensive, the worse it looks for Putin. It's much too early to say

00:17:38.060 Putin's dream of reconstituting the old Soviet union has died in Ukraine, but with each passing day

00:17:45.580 that Ukraine stalls, the Russian advance, the more likely it is. We'll see the strengthening of a rising 0.95

00:17:52.200 insurgency against Putin's invaders. And with Western humanitarian and military aid, Ukraine might just

00:18:00.300 prevail against Russia, despite the crushing power of the forces that Putin has unleashed on Ukraine.

00:18:08.000 Despite all Putin's advantages and his new strategic partnership with communist China,

00:18:13.140 it is suddenly possible that NATO and the Biden White House just might follow President Zelensky's

00:18:21.480 courageous leadership and support Ukraine and the Ukrainians in their struggle to survive the

00:18:28.440 despot Putin and his invasion of their homeland. Joining us now is Tom Fitton. Tom is the president of

00:18:38.040 the leading government watchdog group, Judicial Watch. Tom, the United States has done to this point

00:18:43.740 almost nothing to support Ukraine. NATO and the EU are doing as little as well. Germany actually

00:18:50.620 insulting Ukraine by sending 5,000 helmets to them. So much weakness in the West. Your reaction to the

00:18:59.020 Russian invasion and the strong Ukrainian stand against Putin? You know, I'm old fashioned. I blame Putin for

00:19:06.300 invading Ukraine, you know, to be clear. But he's taking advantage of a situation that in part has been

00:19:14.540 created by the incompetence and corruption and moral obtuseness of this administration.

00:19:24.620 Joe Biden and his administration have been distracted at best, inept in their entirety, at worst. And

00:19:32.800 weak. Mr. Biden is weak, watching the press deal with him today. They treated him as they should

00:19:40.320 have been treating him from the outset, as a man who is not a successful communicator, and a man who is

00:19:46.460 obviously not interested in the public's right to know what his government is doing. Yeah, I mean,

00:19:52.820 kind of there are two big issues here. There's the president's personal failures, right, and policy

00:19:57.920 failures. And then there's this, in my view, and the epiphany, as you kind of explain what's

00:20:04.980 happening, is that we have the failure of our whole national security and foreign policy establishment,

00:20:11.500 that we spent trillions, trillions, if you want to include the Defense Department, trillions on to

00:20:18.800 prevent exactly this sort of catastrophe we're seeing in Ukraine right now. You know, and let's go,

00:20:25.760 let's go back two years ago. Remember what's going on two years ago in our Ukraine embassy

00:20:30.760 in the state, in, in, in, in Kiev. They were, they were focused on spying on you, Lou. Remember,

00:20:38.920 they're gathering, vividly, vividly. They were gathering you and others, critics, social media posts

00:20:45.840 to track what you were saying about the corrupt ambassador there, Ivanovich, and Soros and Biden and

00:20:53.700 company. Right. So that's what our State Department was doing in Ukraine two years ago. And right now,

00:20:59.720 we don't have a State Department in Ukraine, because we had to flee the country. You think

00:21:04.400 the two are connected? I do. Do you think that plays a role in the policy? I mean, this is an

00:21:09.560 interesting question you pose, because does that relationship play a role in Biden administration,

00:21:17.940 foreign policy, specifically with Ukraine? The Putin propaganda is that Ukraine is a vassal of the

00:21:26.520 United States to be used for corrupt purposes. How does not, how does Biden's corruption there

00:21:32.740 not fall into that? Look, Judicial Watch has documents showing that the State Department goons

00:21:39.060 that were targeting Trump for trying to blow, blow the whistle on what Ukraine was doing with Biden in

00:21:45.460 terms of corruption and Russia and things like that. They knew that Biden was compromised. They

00:21:51.920 talked about Russia trolling Biden. He's going there three days before President Trump's inauguration in

00:21:58.820 2017. A Russian-linked newspaper is saying, is he here to protect his business interests? And

00:22:06.400 one of the officials there, a member of Mr. Kent, who testified against Trump,

00:22:11.500 emails Kovanovich, the ambassador, Burisma is the gift that keeps on giving. So they knew he was

00:22:20.220 compromising our situation there. So you have this corruption involving U.S. government officials,

00:22:27.220 Vice President Biden, through his son Hunter. You had Hunter taking in money from the wife and widow of a

00:22:34.380 Russian oligarch. Remember, Burisma is a Ukrainian country, a company, but it was a Russia-leaning company

00:22:43.100 that was run by a member of the cabinet of the Ukrainian leader who fled to Russia after he was

00:22:50.940 ousted. So Biden was compromised six ways to Sunday by Putin. And I'm sure Putin looked at all of that

00:22:58.600 and calculated, but what do I have to worry about if I want to do what I want in Ukraine?

00:23:04.120 Because, heck, you know, as I said, the propaganda was the United States was doing what they wanted.

00:23:09.940 Why can't I do it quite literally?

00:23:12.880 A great, great point, a great series of points. And it also plays into the answer to the question

00:23:20.280 that was asked repeatedly of President Biden today. And that is, why not put sanctions against

00:23:29.860 President Putin today? Why not today? And the answer was never forthcoming. Perhaps Tom Fitton has

00:23:41.160 provided an answer.

00:23:42.140 Yeah. You know, and that goes to the general policy approach of the deep state and our foreign

00:23:50.340 policy establishment and such, which is the one, you know, which is weakness in the face of aggression.

00:23:56.380 And, you know, look, I don't want to see a war with Russia over Ukraine, but we should have made it 1.00

00:24:01.800 clear to Russia there would have been severe consequences beyond sanctions, which have a

00:24:06.880 demonstrated record of not deterring aggression. And, you know, I don't necessarily have the

00:24:12.220 solution, but one way to do, one way to protect yourself in terms of the policy implications of

00:24:18.240 what happened in Ukraine is to show that you're strong by bolstering your defense, increasing your

00:24:24.080 energy capacity, not undermining it through green energy initiatives that tear the legs out from anyone

00:24:31.080 who wants to stand up against Putin's aggression, like in Germany and here in the United States.

00:24:37.880 You know, there are sorts of things you do to strengthen the West as opposed to weaken it

00:24:42.060 through the socialist green energy. And, and as I say, corrupt policies that really just serve to

00:24:49.500 advance the goals of certain policy, you know, extremists, as opposed to defending our national

00:24:56.020 security. I mean, if there's one thing we can conclude now, green energy is a national

00:25:00.940 security risk in these initiatives because they've made us weak and they've made the West weak in

00:25:05.800 the face of Russia aggression, because the green energy initiatives in Germany and elsewhere have

00:25:11.620 made them more dependent, ironically, on Russia than less dependent. And, you know, it's a long ball game

00:25:18.380 and we ain't playing it well.

00:25:21.140 Just to be kind, we're not playing well. This administration, though, is sort of the, you know,

00:25:30.400 the, the derivative of the Obama administration and the follow, following these, these sort of curves

00:25:39.480 that fit into government governance in America. This curve starts in the Obama administration and rest now

00:25:47.960 in the Biden administration and its lead from behind. It is a ridiculous assumption that you can get away 0.89

00:25:57.280 with misjudgments like, yes, we're all about green energy and devil take the hindmost. If you think that 0.93

00:26:04.360 we lose all of our fossil fuel and petroleum industry because we don't really need them because

00:26:10.900 we're your pure of heart and we are seeking the ideal and a, uh, sustainable utopia, which isn't

00:26:18.280 going to be available for decades for crying out loud. Do you agree?

00:26:22.580 I agree. And Putin looks at our priorities, whether it be on energy, on, um, our military with critical

00:26:30.040 race train, critical race theory, and, um, you know, the other, uh, social engineering programs going on in

00:26:37.280 our military, he sees a corrupted white house. He sees president Biden's health challenges,

00:26:43.040 which are evident to everyone, but we're not allowed to talk about evidently here in Washington,

00:26:46.700 DC, but you can bet Putin notices it. You can bet all of our friends and allies and adversaries see

00:26:53.200 this. And, you know, it's, it's led to, um, you know, as I said, I blame Putin for invading Ukraine,

00:27:00.460 but we have to understand that Putin responds to the weakness he perceives. And I think this

00:27:07.780 aggression is evidence of that. And in that weakness, there's some, there are some overt

00:27:13.400 messages, including the time when he, uh, sought it, I guess, to, uh, appear as though it was a

00:27:20.440 mistake, but when he referred to a minor incursion that we'd simply have to talk about, uh, that was

00:27:27.380 in the minds of many. And I think probably correctly, uh, a signal to Putin that a minor 0.83

00:27:35.420 incursion would be quite fine, uh, with this, uh, this president, uh, it's very difficult to

00:27:42.180 understand what Joe Biden is doing as president, isn't it? Yeah. You know, many of our friends have

00:27:47.660 said he cares more about Ukrainian borders than, uh, Ukraine's borders than our Southern borders.

00:27:53.040 I, I don't believe he cares about either. Uh, you know, I think, you know, how else,

00:27:59.900 you know, it seems like our policy is almost encouraged this type of incursion to put it

00:28:05.820 charitably, uh, both in Ukraine. And obviously we don't, we can go on at some length about,

00:28:11.480 uh, the invasion in our Southern border, but, uh, uh, the transnational left and progressives,

00:28:18.420 uh, they don't care about borders. They care about their, their policies being, um, promoted,

00:28:26.300 uh, and Putin is offensive to them because it gets in the way of their agenda. As, as we were talking

00:28:34.020 about a little bit before we went on air here, you know, John Kerry was upset that it's distracting

00:28:39.600 from his climate change agenda. These folks are a menace to our national security with their 0.99

00:28:44.400 priorities. John Kerry, uh, is Tom fitness saying, said this today about, uh, president Putin. I hope

00:28:53.460 president Putin, imagine this in the middle of an invasion of Ukraine saying, I hope president 0.97

00:29:00.320 Putin will help us to stay on track. Those are direct quotes with quote, what we need to do for the

00:29:07.160 climate in quote. Now we can talk about that being rich in irony, uh, a tone deaf, uh, John Kerry is

00:29:16.040 nothing new, but when it is also juxtaposed against one of the most frightening developments of the day

00:29:22.620 among many, and that is Russian forces capturing the radioactive still and deadly dangerous Chernobyl

00:29:32.840 nuclear power plant, according to the prime minister of Ukraine, they have taken charge of it.

00:29:39.980 And to think that we have, uh, Kerry braying about Putin staying on course about what we need to do for

00:29:49.220 our climate. If Europe wasn't frightened before where, then I don't know what it would take to,

00:29:55.820 to reach their, uh, both their imagination, uh, and their hearts. Well, for the corrupted ideologues

00:30:03.200 that are running our country, the jobs that the American people expect them to do, which is to

00:30:08.140 protect our national security, preserve our defense, preserve economic Liberty, you know, make sure that

00:30:15.240 we don't have to worry about, uh, uh, a dangerous Putin or dangerous China. They see all that work as a

00:30:23.100 distraction because they prefer to be pushing this radical climate change agenda, their CRT agenda,

00:30:31.660 uh, you name it. Uh, and they see the basic work that the American people expect from their elected

00:30:37.620 leaders as a distraction as opposed to their core mission. Exactly. But it appears he is on very bad

00:30:46.740 footing to deal with the Ukrainian invasion by Russia. Yeah. You know, I was thinking, um, I always

00:30:54.720 thought it was very interesting to see on Twitter, everyone talk about, um, well, I got, I got COVID.

00:31:00.680 I'm glad I got the vaccine, which I thought was kind of an odd, you know, it is, it is a brain twister,

00:31:06.880 isn't it? Right. And now that's been replaced as, uh, Putin invaded Ukraine. I'm glad Biden's president.

00:31:13.060 I'm glad Trump isn't president even better. Yeah. You know, that it's this odd construct we're

00:31:19.240 supposed to buy, but it's typical for the left. Now, when they, when they killed our people in

00:31:24.680 Benghazi, it was a testament to, but to Trump, uh, to Obama's leadership. That's what we were told by

00:31:29.920 the white house. Exactly. When Biden, uh, surrendered in Afghanistan and killed Americans on the way out

00:31:37.800 through his ineptitude and abandoned to this day, Americans there, it was a success. And now, uh,

00:31:46.380 Putin's invasion is supposed to be treated as a, uh, success in, uh, Biden, keeping our allies

00:31:54.060 together, uh, while not actually able to prevent the carnage we're seeing today in Ukraine. I mean,

00:32:01.300 you know, we, we talk about these issues. Sometimes we laugh about them, but this corruption

00:32:05.640 and incompetence, it's, it's getting people killed unnecessarily. And it's these poor innocents

00:32:11.360 in Ukraine. Ukraine didn't deserve to be invaded. Ukraine is not a perfect country. I didn't deserve

00:32:17.300 to be invaded. It didn't have to happen if we had better leadership from the United States and,

00:32:22.380 and the left, but, you know, I, maybe it was inevitable because these are the consequences

00:32:27.300 of a failing, um, uh, West, uh, that is more focused on, uh, lining its own pockets and advancing

00:32:36.220 extremist agendas, as opposed to, as I say, doing what it's supposed to do, which is to secure

00:32:41.460 its citizens and, and, and ensure a strong national defenses.

00:32:46.020 And there's one other irony in this that, that doesn't escape us. And that is a president,

00:32:51.360 president Biden actually saying bragging about, uh, when asked about how did he know that the

00:32:59.480 invasion was imminent when he said that, what, 10 days ago, I hadn't even called the invasion

00:33:06.700 date as last Wednesday, uh, incorrectly. Again, he said, we have a, an intelligence apparatus of

00:33:14.960 great significance, uh, or something to that effect, uh, bragging about the intelligence that

00:33:20.980 he was getting, which was pretty good. But for him to be bragging about the intelligence on this,

00:33:27.520 one would have hoped that the intelligence agencies would have had a better sense of this,

00:33:33.400 a better gotten something of a whiff of it six months ago, rather than, uh, six days, uh, before

00:33:39.700 its occurrence. Your thoughts? Yeah. And invasions like this don't happen overnight. It's why we go back

00:33:44.800 to the earlier part of our conversation where we exposed it to state department when it came to Ukraine

00:33:49.960 and our military establishment in the, in the, in the person of Colt of, uh, Mr. Vindon, right.

00:33:56.980 Yeah. I was more focused on destroying Trump for highlighting corruption in that area involving

00:34:02.940 U.S. government officials as opposed to, uh, and, and, and spying on Americans to do what it looks

00:34:10.220 like. Yeah. So why would we think, we knew where their, their focus was until Biden came in on

00:34:16.360 destroying Trump. Their focus still is kind of on destroying Trump in advance, in addition to

00:34:21.700 advancing their radical extremist agenda. And, you know, oh, you know, and then they decide to

00:34:28.140 listen in on Putin when it's becomes clear that he decided to invade after, you know, oh, we has 130,000

00:34:34.600 troops on the border. Maybe we should focus on that then now. I mean, Lord help us, Lord help us. And

00:34:40.060 what's concerning about this is these folks who've lied to us about Russia for years, we're expected

00:34:48.060 to now trust them now. Well, I've, I've held Sullivan, national security advisor, Hillary's guy

00:34:55.540 lied about Russiagate. Now he's running our Russia policy for Biden. Again, Lord protect this country.

00:35:03.060 Indeed, Tom, we need all the help we can get. Tom Fenton. Thanks for being with us. And for your

00:35:08.600 views, Tom, president of Judicial Watch, a great organization devoted to protecting America and

00:35:15.340 Americans. Thank you for being with us here on the Great America Show. God bless you. And God bless

00:35:22.380 America. Join us again tomorrow for the Great America podcast. Stay in the fight. Truth, justice,

00:35:28.280 and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.

The Great America Show - February 27, 2022

KELLOGG： PUTIN NOT SUCCEEDING; FITTON： PUTIN COMPROMISED BIDEN

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