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00:01:14.920 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.

00:01:23.400 President Trump back in a New York courtroom yesterday for the closing arguments in the

00:01:28.320 civil fraud case against the Trump organization. Trump originally slated to give closing remarks,

00:01:34.560 but Wednesday afternoon, fewer than 24 hours before the hearing, the Marxist-dimmed dictator of a

00:01:40.840 judge, Judge Arthur Ingeron, informed President Trump's attorney, Chris Keis, that President Trump

00:01:47.700 will not be allowed to speak because Trump won't adhere to the judge's rules. Ingeron had demanded

00:01:54.620 that Trump not be allowed to introduce any new evidence, not to comment on irrelevant matters,

00:02:00.260 not to deliver a campaign speech, or impugn the judge, his staff, the attorney general of the state,

00:02:06.340 Tish James, her attorneys, or the court system itself. Keis responded to Judge Ingeron's demands,

00:02:13.860 saying, quote, This is very unfair, Your Honor. You are not allowing President Trump, who has been

00:02:19.540 wrongfully demeaned and belittled by an out-of-control, politically motivated attorney general,

00:02:25.760 to speak about the things that must be spoken about. To which Judge Ingeron replied,

00:02:31.320 I won't debate this yet again. Take it or leave it. Now or never. You have until noon,

00:02:37.960 seven minutes from now. I will not grant any further extensions. Judge Ingeron should be

00:02:44.560 referred to an ethics committee, it seems to me, or perhaps just a mental institution.

00:02:49.820 With the Iowa caucus just days away, Rhino Chris Christie decided to call it quits.

00:02:55.500 Leaked audio of Christie this week revealed Christie knew all along that President Trump

00:03:00.340 is going to win the nomination and that Nikki Haley is going to get it, as he put it, smoked.

00:03:06.920 Look, she spent $68 million so far, just on TV. Spent $68 million so far, $59 million by DeSantis,

00:03:14.060 and we spent $12. I mean, who's punching above their weight and who's getting a return on their

00:03:18.820 investment, you know? And she's going to get smoked. And you and I both know it. She's not up to this.

00:03:23.820 She's still 20 points behind Trump in New Hampshire, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And he's

00:03:28.360 going to, he's still going to carry Iowa, right? Yes. Oh, he's, I talked to, DeSantis called me,

00:03:34.480 petrified. And while Christie was calling it quits, President Trump was in Iowa for a town hall with

00:03:40.840 Fox News, while Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis were debating over on CNN. President Trump told the crowd

00:03:48.000 that after hearing Christie's leaked audio, he might actually be starting to like him once again.

00:03:54.000 Chris Christie was in and he got a hot mic I heard about. I thought actually the biggest story wasn't

00:04:00.840 the fact that he dropped out. Nobody cared too much about that. But he had a hot mic where he was

00:04:05.620 talking to somebody about the weather and he happened to say that she doesn't have what it

00:04:10.100 takes. She'll be creamed in the, in the election. And I mean, I know her very well. And I happen to 0.86

00:04:15.200 believe that Chris Christie's right. That's one of the few things he's been right about, actually.

00:04:18.800 Trump was then asked if he would consider Christie or any of the others running against him in the

00:04:23.300 primary as his vice president. Trump said this. Who would be in the running for a vice president?

00:04:28.880 Well, I can't tell you that really. I mean, I know who it's going to be. Give us a hint.

00:04:33.100 I'll give you, we'll do another show sometime. Well, what about any of the people who you've run

00:04:36.720 against? Would you be open to mending fences with any of them? Oh, sure, I will. I will. I've already

00:04:41.640 started like Christie better. Christie for vice president. I don't see it. I don't see it. That

00:04:51.980 would be an upset. Christie for vice president. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to announce.

00:04:55.980 And each day that goes by, it seems things can't get any worse for Joe Biden. But today,

00:05:01.920 they did. We have more bad news for Joe. A new poll out of Michigan has Joe Biden down 12 points to

00:05:08.420 President Trump in the general election matchup with the third party candidate. And when faced

00:05:13.840 with a head-to-head decision, Trump beats Biden 47 to 39. In 2016, Trump took the state of Michigan

00:05:21.340 by just under 11,000 votes, but lost it in 2020. And I say lost very loosely by 154,000 votes.

00:05:31.640 An interesting margin, don't you think? Just four years apart.

00:05:34.980 Kurt, our guest today is attorney Kurt Olson. Kurt, first of all, thanks for being with us. And

00:05:40.520 I want to turn to some big developments and point of fact, several of them before the Supreme Court

00:05:45.620 now. Let's start with among them, one of the biggest cases they'll take up this term,

00:05:50.580 and that is Missouri versus Biden. That is the case in which Biden colluded with big technology

00:05:56.700 to suppress free speech on the part of conservatives. Give us your take on where the case stands and how

00:06:03.380 it will play out. So if you recall, back on July 4th of this summer, the district court in Louisiana

00:06:11.920 ruled that the administration, the Biden administration and a variety of agencies from

00:06:20.020 the FBI to CISA to DHS to the Surgeon General, the CDC, all had engaged in one of the most significant

00:06:29.500 violations of the First Amendment in the history of our country. And that's almost a direct quote.

00:06:36.460 And that is, these agencies were strong-arming and mandating that social media companies censor

00:06:45.480 Americans, de-platform them if they didn't speak the party line, particularly with respect to the story 0.73

00:06:53.740 of whether COVID originated from a wet market or came out of a lab, for example, in China,

00:07:01.120 or with respect to what has been called the most secure election in history, if you recall that after

00:07:09.520 2020. If anybody criticized those things, the FBI, CISA, DHS, the Biden White House was engaged in a

00:07:18.320 censorship operation to stop Americans from talking about or even learning about information that

00:07:24.700 would question the administration's viewpoint. And that, go ahead.

00:07:31.180 No, I was saying absolutely. And what we saw unfold was absolute totalitarian suppression

00:07:39.260 of freedom of speech, of public debate.

00:07:45.020 It's breathtaking in its scope. And it's actually, it is probably, I think, the most frightening

00:07:52.880 development in the history of our country, because it is Orwell come to life. And this involves,

00:08:00.320 you know, the terms that are being used now, disinformation, malinformation, and misinformation.

00:08:06.100 What they're doing is they're putting into the lexicon those terms to label things that the

00:08:13.100 government doesn't want people to know about. And by labeling it, then you can then regulate it.

00:08:19.480 And so this is as much a psychological ploy as it is an actual legal ploy. They have defined

00:08:26.600 disinformation as whatever the government doesn't want to be heard. And then they have moved and

00:08:34.180 strong-armed social media companies to censor Americans with respect to that. They do it under

00:08:40.600 the guise that were to protect the American public. And it's just breathtaking to me that our

00:08:48.940 government, that even, and judges, some judges have even gone along with this, people who should know

00:08:55.520 better. But the point is, is that the federal district court judge on July 4th, and I don't believe

00:09:02.180 that that was coincidental, that date was chosen by that court, you know, ruled on an injunction,

00:09:09.240 meaning that the plaintiffs, which included the state of Missouri and the state of Louisiana,

00:09:13.720 some private individuals and a news organization, that their claims were likely to succeed.

00:09:20.340 And therefore, the federal district court judge imposed an injunction prohibiting these officials

00:09:27.280 and agencies from strong-arming and censoring speech on these social media companies. But what's

00:09:34.740 significant is the Fifth Circuit upheld that injunction in part in September, and that was a three-judge

00:09:43.440 panel. But on a rehearing en banc with the full court, the full Fifth Circuit added one of the defendants

00:09:51.300 that had been eliminated by the panel, and that was CISA. And CISA is, as the Attorney General of Missouri

00:10:04.960 said, they are the, quote, nerve center of a vast censorship enterprise. And to put, you know,

00:10:13.300 kind of an example, if you recall, remember the Hunter Biden laptop story, where 51 intelligence

00:10:20.060 professionals said that this was Russian disinformation.

00:10:23.620 Yeah, Russian disinformation. I say on this show quite often, Kurt, I say that the Biden

00:10:31.420 administration offers three types of information, misinformation, disinformation, and no information.

00:10:37.640 And that is precisely what they do. You mentioned the cybersecurity and infrastructure agency.

00:10:45.500 They are the ones who, as you pointed out, declared it to be the most secure election in history,

00:10:53.020 that the presidential election of 2020, when they knew full well at that very moment that Iranians had 0.95

00:10:59.720 seized the identities of 100,000 voters and did not make that public. It became public.

00:11:06.640 Certainly nothing was going to be forthcoming from those agencies at that point in time.

00:11:13.940 And it is also the agency that subsequently had to retract, but did so under cover of some

00:11:22.100 year and a half later and language to acknowledge they were wrong. Yet that was what everybody was

00:11:30.100 using in the national media, government agencies, the Democratic Party to hammer people like, for

00:11:35.560 example, me over the head, because I was calling into question the integrity of that election.

00:11:41.860 It's outrageous, as you say. It is breathtaking without question.

00:11:47.020 Well, what's fascinating is CISA came out with that statement, and that was Chris Krebs,

00:11:51.140 I believe on November 12th, just a week after the election, it was the most secure.

00:11:56.080 But so let's look at two things. Did they investigate anything within that time to ensure that it was

00:12:02.880 the most secure? Obviously not, unless, of course, they're absolutely monitoring every single voting

00:12:11.400 machine in the 3,000 plus counties in the country. And if they're doing that, that means they're online.

00:12:17.580 So how can CISA be monitoring something if it's not online, as is always claimed, or not? But to put a cap

00:12:28.320 on this, if you recall, on December 15th, just a month after the election, they announced the SolarWinds

00:12:35.680 hack, which was the largest penetration of government and private sector companies in the history of our

00:12:43.920 country. It was, I think CNN called it an earth shattering moment. And so that shows you the

00:12:51.700 vulnerability, at least with respect to electronic voting machines. But there were many other issues

00:12:58.240 with the election that go beyond just that. But it's just, what it shows you is that there is this mass

00:13:03.940 propaganda effort to shape people's opinion without any basis. So when they would claim that there were

00:13:13.440 baseless claims of election fraud, what basis did they have to say it was the most secure election

00:13:20.080 in history? What did they do to say that that was true? Nothing other than mere words. And the evidence

00:13:26.880 contradicted that. And that's one of the reasons that the Democrats, the Marxist Dems are fighting

00:13:33.920 with every tool they have, crooked and otherwise, to stop Donald Trump, because they know that if he gets

00:13:40.760 into office, all of this is going to spill onto not even the corrupt national, corporatist, globalist

00:13:48.720 media can stop it. Because we know that that election was rigged. You know, because you've been fighting

00:13:55.620 in court for the revelations and the evidence that you have, whether it's in Arizona and representing

00:14:05.200 Kerry Lake, the so-called defeated gubernatorial candidate there, or Mike Lindell at my pillow.

00:14:16.160 The truth will prevail. I am absolutely certain of it. We're talking with Kurt Olson, one of the chief

00:14:22.400 warriors, making certain that is the result of this conflict that has now raged for three years in this

00:14:30.240 country. We're talking with Kurt Olson, and we will be right back. You don't want to miss a single minute.

00:14:41.360 We're back now. We're talking with Kurt Olson. And Kurt, I want to turn to, if we may,

00:14:47.840 President Trump appealing the decision, barring him from the main primary ballot by a unelected

00:14:55.200 secretary of state who just simply decided she would take things into her own hands. And,

00:15:00.800 and, you know, it used to be the Democrats were the ones that count every vote. I believe I remember

00:15:06.640 them saying that at various points over the years. And now they don't want any vote counted at all.

00:15:12.400 Your thoughts? Well, I mean, that's exactly what it is. I mean, the hypocrisy is breathtaking. So you have

00:15:19.040 an unelected official, the Secretary of State in Maine is appointed, and her name is Sheena Bellows.

00:15:28.320 And as most people probably know, she decided that President Trump had committed the crime of

00:15:34.560 insurrection and violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment and therefore could not serve as an office.

00:15:42.080 So she unilaterally made these findings and ordered him removed from the ballot. Now, to be clear,

00:15:50.080 she has stayed her decision. And that decision has been appealed. And the procedure for that is to appeal

00:15:56.480 it to the main superior court. And then from there, it goes to the state Supreme Court and then up to the

00:16:02.160 US Supreme Court. But what this really is, it's a narrative. What they're trying to do is to give a

00:16:08.720 talking point to influence the media and attack the president. If they felt strongly about their

00:16:15.600 position, they would not have stayed their decision. So what it does in this Colorado Supreme Court in

00:16:22.160 their 4-3 decision did the same thing. They found that the four justices said, well, the president

00:16:28.480 committed insurrection in violation of the 14th Amendment, but we're going to stay our decision.

00:16:33.920 So they get to talk about it, but it has no effect, because the president obviously is appealing these

00:16:39.200 decisions.

00:16:40.800 It is, to me, this is a revelation for the American people. And I believe it's one of the reasons

00:16:48.400 that the president is rising week after week in these polls, which he already dominates. 0.99

00:16:54.320 There is no hiding place for these fools now. The Marxist Dems are known for what they are. They're 0.99

00:17:00.640 Marxist. They're totalitarian, authoritarian. They're not in any way working at any point for

00:17:06.960 the American people. The prosperity and the health and the well-being and welfare of working men and

00:17:13.360 women in this country and their families, the middle class. They are absolutely trying to tear this 1.00

00:17:19.760 country apart and have done a pretty good job to this point. But now the evidence is mounting

00:17:25.680 exponentially to their perfidy, their corruption, their ignorance, and their intent as Marxists 0.95

00:17:34.640 who mean to destroy everything American. Your thoughts? 0.71

00:17:39.680 I think it's more than just the Democrats. I think it's an establishment that's in power that's

00:17:45.760 trying to retain power. I think elections have been, to a large part, controlled. You may not be able to

00:17:53.280 determine 100% a candidate, but they can put their thumb on the scale through a very large

00:18:02.480 organization that I think is metastasized throughout the country. I don't think the

00:18:06.320 fraud in our country in elections is one-off. I think it's centrally directed and controlled.

00:18:12.480 And I don't say that lightly. I mean, you recall the Time Magazine article that came out,

00:18:16.640 I think in February of 2021, where they talk about how they bragged, how they didn't rig the election,

00:18:23.600 they fortified it. And it showed all these different groups on a nationwide scale

00:18:30.400 who actually, I think, participated and rigged the 2020 election. But what's coming out now is what you can

00:18:38.480 see that there's a multifaceted approach to block anybody from looking at the 2020 election. And that

00:18:47.680 is the criminal prosecution of President Trump. Jack Smith's indictment in DC relates to the so-called

00:18:56.880 the alternate electors scheme. And now those alternate electors, which had been done before,

00:19:02.640 like, for example, in the 1960 election in Hawaii, where two slates of electors were put forward in

00:19:08.640 Hawaii. The indictment of the president centers on his belief, which is justified, that 2020 was rigged,

00:19:21.120 both from constitutional law violations and from actual illegal voting. That indictment centers on it,

00:19:28.720 the defamation cases that Dominion and other voting machine companies center on that. The prosecution

00:19:36.000 by Fannie Willis in Fulton County, Georgia centers on it. The bar charges against attorneys like myself

00:19:44.000 who bring election cases. This is a multifaceted effort to stop anybody from looking at the 2020 election

00:19:53.760 because it exposes the power control that is being employed to keep Americans from actually electing

00:20:03.440 the officials they want. Right. You know, I take your point in arguing with me about this being simply

00:20:11.200 the Marxist Dems. I don't mean it to be simply the Marcus Dems. What I what I am saying is that I don't

00:20:18.400 want any Republican, any conservative, any citizen in any way diluting the impact of a party, a political

00:20:28.240 party, the Democrat Party that has been overtaken by a group of Marxist ideologues. There is no

00:20:33.600 equivocation. There is no posturing or couching any of this. That's who they are. And they mean to destroy

00:20:41.040 this country. I take your point about the establishment, but the establishment itself has absorbed these

00:20:48.800 Marxist values have been inculcated in H.R. departments across across Wall Street, big tech and, of course,

00:20:57.520 big business. It's I think most people, their minds probably just kind of glaze over as we talk about some of

00:21:04.880 these acronyms, whether it's CRT, ESG, DEI, you name it. They have bought into it and they bought into

00:21:13.040 it because of their globalist elitism. It is not per se that there's simply a quote unquote Republican

00:21:20.640 institution because those institutions have moved away from the Republican Party and did so within the

00:21:26.480 last five years. They're now interlocked with the Marxist Dems, the elitist and globalist elitists

00:21:36.880 who are tearing this country to pieces. I truly see it that way, Kurt. Do you do you not agree?

00:21:45.040 I agree 100 percent. And you can see it in the polling. So, for example, more and more people

00:21:51.840 understand that our elections are being rigged. And that's because they're losing the narrative

00:21:57.520 and we are putting out actual evidence that shows that. And whether it's in Arizona or in Georgia,

00:22:06.960 for example, in Georgia, the state the state election board was going to hold a hearing on December 19th

00:22:14.800 over credible allegations that show, for example, among other things, there were 17000 more ballots

00:22:21.440 than the state could show were images. But where did they come from? Because in Georgia,

00:22:26.800 you have to have a corresponding image to the ballot. So that means that somebody stuffed ballots in there

00:22:33.840 and rigged the election. But the Secretary of State's council said, oh, we found the images.

00:22:41.440 And so this has just happened last month. Right. So the SCB said, well, show us the images. And

00:22:48.320 there was a little bit of stammering and they came back and said, well, we can't find it.

00:22:52.960 So the SCB canceled the hearing and now is issuing a subpoena to say, produce the images that you said you had.

00:22:59.040 Yeah. And within that, Judge Amy Totenberg, federal district court judge in

00:23:05.840 in Atlanta with a bench trial again, making a determination as to why the Secretary of State,

00:23:15.360 Raffensperger, will not, doesn't want to be under oath as he appears before the court.

00:23:24.160 When she says and is acknowledged and what was it, 135 page ruling, she says point blank that there is

00:23:33.040 every reason to doubt the the integrity of that voting system in Georgia.

00:23:39.440 Yeah. And it begs it always begs the question, what do they have to hide?

00:23:45.200 If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't fear testifying under oath in this context.

00:23:51.360 And you should be transparent. In other words, election machines, the chain of custody documents

00:23:59.040 for ballots and things like that. Why is there this? It's a concerted effort across

00:24:04.720 many, many jurisdictions in the country and many states to prevent people from looking inside and

00:24:11.120 seeing what goes on. We're supposed to be good boys and girls and just pretend that

00:24:16.560 it's normal to have a little black box. Tell us who's just been elected president

00:24:21.120 or to have a television network make a declaration when and when it feels like it and makes it makes

00:24:30.240 it so through that declaration. We have a system that really needs some real consideration and

00:24:35.440 investigation still after all these three years. We're talking with Kurt Olson, great attorney,

00:24:41.760 great American. We're coming right back. Please stay with us.

00:24:50.560 We're back now with attorney Kurt Olson and Kurt, let's turn to another area and that is special

00:24:57.120 counsel Jack Smith. Now before the Supreme Court, wanting the Supreme Court to strip President

00:25:04.880 Trump of any presidential immunity. How is that going to end? And your thoughts as the Supreme

00:25:12.240 Court right now, it seems to be the dumping ground for all of these issues pertaining to the integrity

00:25:21.360 of 2020. At some point, will there just be a cumulative weight where they'll have to say,

00:25:28.080 you know, Jack Smith, Joe Biden, Mary Garland, you people have been screwing this country up for three

00:25:34.800 years. We can't we can't assume that you're going to have clean hands in anything. Or would that be

00:25:41.520 just too much of a wish on my part? I think we'll look at it as a glass half full. So I think they're

00:25:48.480 going to take they're obviously going to take some cases on presidential immunity, even though Jack Smith

00:25:53.120 was rejected in his efforts to bring it straight to the Supreme Court. So the issue of presidential

00:26:00.720 immunity is going to be heard by the D.C. Circuit. And that is not a settled question of law with respect

00:26:08.400 to criminal criminal matters. And so the issue there is there are a number of Supreme Court cases

00:26:15.920 that most notably the Nixon v. Fitzgerald, where presidents are immune for acts even within the

00:26:26.160 outer perimeter of their official responsibility, is the phrase, from civil liability. But there has not

00:26:34.240 been any case on the criminal side that has directly held the president is immune. But the same concepts would

00:26:43.600 apply. And so here, this is an issue, again, with what Jack Smith has brought. He is focusing on

00:26:52.800 the president calling out and directing investigations into election fraud to pursue efforts to uncover that.

00:27:03.280 And regardless of whether it impacts his office, that's owed to the country.

00:27:10.480 If you recall, and I was one of the primary drafters, we on behalf of Texas, we filed a complaint directly

00:27:20.240 in the U.S. Supreme Court on December 7th, 2020, challenging the elections in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,

00:27:28.160 Michigan, and Georgia, that they were conducted unlawfully in violation of the Constitution,

00:27:34.160 because non-legislative actors were making changes to election law that either just eviscerated or reduced

00:27:41.200 security. They would do away with signature verification. They would have unmanned drop boxes

00:27:46.000 where anybody could dump thousands of ballots and direct violation to the legislators enacted laws,

00:27:54.720 which were designed to prevent fraud. These governors, secretaries of state, and even some state courts were

00:28:05.040 doing away with security measures that ensure the integrity of the vote. And then we showed there were

00:28:10.960 actual instances of outcome-determinative illegal voting, both issues, constitutional and factual.

00:28:17.440 For example, 18 states joined Texas. That was huge. That was a watershed moment. You had six of those

00:28:25.760 states move to intervene directly and 12 filed supporting briefs. And so this was at the beginning

00:28:32.240 of December, just about a little over a month from the election. Correct. Just and so people may not

00:28:39.760 recall that that was a watershed moment in the history of this country. You had 18 states plus Texas

00:28:46.560 saying that the election was fraudulent or illegal. And if I may just insert this Kurt and remind

00:28:55.280 everybody, because it's one of the things that gets lost. We forget about the drama of the moment,

00:29:00.960 the tension of the moment, the historical tension of that moment. In three states, three states,

00:29:09.360 44,000 votes determined that Joe Biden became president. 44,000 votes, ladies and gentlemen.

00:29:20.640 And otherwise, beyond that, immense questions remain. But I just wanted to add that, Kurt,

00:29:26.960 so that people recall just how close that election was and what a thread the Republican

00:29:34.080 the Republican was hanging on. Yeah. And there are issues. So, for example, in Pennsylvania,

00:29:40.320 they still have not addressed the fact. And this is just straight out of Pennsylvania's own official

00:29:46.240 documents. There are more than 120,000 votes than Pennsylvania has recorded of people voting. And by

00:29:57.280 Pennsylvania law, you cannot certify the election when those balances don't reconcile. And that's

00:30:05.200 a statute. That's 25 PA 3154. Anybody can look it up. Well, not anybody. I need a little help to look

00:30:13.600 that one up. Yeah. So DuckDuckGo is your friend. I don't Google. But in any event, it's 25 PA 3154. And so,

00:30:21.680 I mean, to this day, Pennsylvania should not have been certified. And this is what the establishment

00:30:30.720 powers are trying to criminalize people even looking at, because it goes to the heart of a system that

00:30:39.520 they've put in place to control elections. So I want to get to this final question here.

00:30:49.120 Eighteen states join. Eighteen attorneys general. It is, the election is hanging by the, I think we

00:31:00.320 could argue that that's the closest election in history. Perhaps 2000, you can argue, was closer.

00:31:07.360 But why did the Supreme Court refuse to take it up in that moment when there was so much tension,

00:31:16.400 so much conflict, and so much obvious, obvious assaults on the integrity of the election,

00:31:25.680 whether it's Pennsylvania, whether it's Wisconsin, Georgia, you name it.

00:31:30.080 So the Supreme Court dismissed that based on standing. It was a two-sentence order. They did not

00:31:35.760 address the merits at all. And so they avoided the question. And there were two issues there. And so

00:31:42.080 I just want to highlight there were the constitutional violations where our constitution under articles one

00:31:48.800 and two, the elections and electors clause basically says to set election law, that's the purview of the

00:31:55.760 state legislature. You can't have non-legislative actors like courts, like secretaries of state,

00:32:04.160 and governors, you know, administrative, executive officials, changing election law. And here,

00:32:10.800 they not only changed election law, they made it easier to cheat uniformly.

00:32:15.360 And then there were the actual instances where we could show that outcome-determinative votes were

00:32:22.640 injected or put into the system that were illegal. And, you know, these two issues

00:32:32.720 show that, and the Supreme Court's avoidance of it, I think means that they were afraid.

00:32:41.360 Yeah. They were afraid. But it's not such a bad thing, because I like to look at

00:32:46.240 the world, you know, with the silver lining. We have learned so much since 2020 to the present day.

00:32:54.160 If the Supreme Court had ruled back then, everybody would have gone back to sleep and said the system

00:33:00.800 worked. And because they didn't, we now know that this is much more than just a stolen election. There is a

00:33:10.640 system in place that is corrupt. And it's corrupt to the core, down to lower level election officials,

00:33:20.960 to politicians, to judges. If you look across the board, we put evidence after evidence. And I'll make

00:33:27.280 a plug now. There's a movie that we made about Arizona, and it's called State of Denial. And everybody

00:33:33.600 can go, there's a website where that can be viewed on Rumble, Twitter, and elsewhere. But it's

00:33:39.040 state-of-denial.com. And there we show the actual evidence. And courts are bending over backwards to

00:33:53.600 say, the law doesn't apply to this, or that evidence doesn't count. And so what people are seeing

00:34:02.960 is that the traditional guardians of our freedom, those we have entrusted to do the right thing,

00:34:11.280 that that's no longer the case. You can't rely on those traditional officials to guard our freedoms.

00:34:21.840 So what we've learned is that the system is not there to protect our freedoms. And people are going to

00:34:29.360 have to get off the couch and do more than just vote to preserve those freedoms. 0.99

00:34:35.760 Well, and again, the movie, we recommend it to you highly, State of Denial. And we'll have it

00:34:44.800 posted on all of our social media. And we will be hawking the documentary throughout. So we appreciate

00:34:52.480 that. I want to say, as we close here, you say the system worked, is the sort of the inversion of

00:35:04.960 what you said, because the Supreme Court didn't have the courage to take it up. I take quite a different

00:35:10.160 view, Kurt. I think the Supreme Court was absolutely cowardly. 0.82

00:35:17.200 I think that they had a responsibility that they ducked on some sort of silly pretext that 0.98

00:35:24.880 some people call the law. It wasn't law, it was avoidance. And I don't think that all of us who

00:35:31.920 aren't lawyers, I think we know what it was, because it smelled a high heaven. They simply ran from it.

00:35:38.240 And they ran from it with, you know, one of the, as I understand the law, one of the fundamental

00:35:42.880 standings as to, if you're a state in conflict with another, you've got to automatically go before

00:35:49.040 the Supreme Court. Am I wrong in that?

00:35:51.280 Well, so standing, which is what the court dismissed the case on,

00:35:56.560 they said that Texas doesn't have an interest in what happens in Pennsylvania. Well, given that we

00:36:02.000 have a president, yes, we have a president that affects the entire country, who the evidence,

00:36:09.440 both from the constitutional law violations and on, and the merits, showed that there are,

00:36:16.800 well, I believe the election was rigged, but at a minimum, they showed that there were serious

00:36:20.960 questions about the election that the court should have addressed.

00:36:25.040 Yeah. And you know what that sounds like, Kurt? You know what it sounds like for the court to

00:36:29.200 have made that statement? It sounds like the old John Roberts, you know, a tax is just a fee,

00:36:35.680 a fee is not a tax, you know, to support Obamacare. I mean, these are the kind of specious pieces of

00:36:43.120 reasoning that echo down through history. And they're straightforwardly pure BS. This is a court

00:36:53.680 that lacks guts. It's a judiciary that is corrupt. You can't get a fair trial if you're an independent 0.98

00:36:59.680 or a conservative or a MAGA person. If you're not a Marxist dem, there's a whole raft of states,

00:37:10.320 about half of them, that you couldn't get a fair trial on a bet. Am I wrong?

00:37:15.920 No, you're not wrong at all. And the only point that I was making before is that the silver lining is,

00:37:22.400 I think people realize that they can't trust the system any longer, and they need to do something

00:37:28.240 about it. Yeah. And absolutely. And one of those doing a lot about it is Kurt Olson. And Kurt,

00:37:36.000 the documentary again, give us the URL.

00:37:40.240 It is www.state-of-denial.com.

00:37:48.080 Beautiful. And we urge you to please go take a look. And Kurt, as always, great talking with you.

00:37:56.080 Always I get an education and learn something, and I appreciate it so much. And I know the audience

00:38:00.720 does as well. Thank you so much. Kurt Olson. Thank you, Lou. Much appreciated.

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The Great America Show - January 12, 2024

KURT OLSEN： ELECTIONS RIGGED AND WORSE

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