The Great America Show - January 12, 2024


KURT OLSEN: ELECTIONS RIGGED AND WORSE


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

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141.62659

Word Count

5,497

Sentence Count

370

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Lou Dobbs joins me on the Great America Show to talk about Chris Christie's decision to leave the presidential race, Judge Ingeron's order preventing Trump from speaking in court, and why Nikki Haley is not going to beat Trump in the primary.


Transcript

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00:01:14.920 Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to The Great America Show. Thanks for being with us.
00:01:23.400 President Trump back in a New York courtroom yesterday for the closing arguments in the
00:01:28.320 civil fraud case against the Trump organization. Trump originally slated to give closing remarks,
00:01:34.560 but Wednesday afternoon, fewer than 24 hours before the hearing, the Marxist-dimmed dictator of a
00:01:40.840 judge, Judge Arthur Ingeron, informed President Trump's attorney, Chris Keis, that President Trump
00:01:47.700 will not be allowed to speak because Trump won't adhere to the judge's rules. Ingeron had demanded
00:01:54.620 that Trump not be allowed to introduce any new evidence, not to comment on irrelevant matters,
00:02:00.260 not to deliver a campaign speech, or impugn the judge, his staff, the attorney general of the state,
00:02:06.340 Tish James, her attorneys, or the court system itself. Keis responded to Judge Ingeron's demands,
00:02:13.860 saying, quote, This is very unfair, Your Honor. You are not allowing President Trump, who has been
00:02:19.540 wrongfully demeaned and belittled by an out-of-control, politically motivated attorney general,
00:02:25.760 to speak about the things that must be spoken about. To which Judge Ingeron replied,
00:02:31.320 I won't debate this yet again. Take it or leave it. Now or never. You have until noon,
00:02:37.960 seven minutes from now. I will not grant any further extensions. Judge Ingeron should be
00:02:44.560 referred to an ethics committee, it seems to me, or perhaps just a mental institution.
00:02:49.820 With the Iowa caucus just days away, Rhino Chris Christie decided to call it quits.
00:02:55.500 Leaked audio of Christie this week revealed Christie knew all along that President Trump
00:03:00.340 is going to win the nomination and that Nikki Haley is going to get it, as he put it, smoked.
00:03:06.920 Look, she spent $68 million so far, just on TV. Spent $68 million so far, $59 million by DeSantis,
00:03:14.060 and we spent $12. I mean, who's punching above their weight and who's getting a return on their
00:03:18.820 investment, you know? And she's going to get smoked. And you and I both know it. She's not up to this.
00:03:23.820 She's still 20 points behind Trump in New Hampshire, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And he's
00:03:28.360 going to, he's still going to carry Iowa, right? Yes. Oh, he's, I talked to, DeSantis called me,
00:03:34.480 petrified. And while Christie was calling it quits, President Trump was in Iowa for a town hall with
00:03:40.840 Fox News, while Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis were debating over on CNN. President Trump told the crowd
00:03:48.000 that after hearing Christie's leaked audio, he might actually be starting to like him once again.
00:03:54.000 Chris Christie was in and he got a hot mic I heard about. I thought actually the biggest story wasn't
00:04:00.840 the fact that he dropped out. Nobody cared too much about that. But he had a hot mic where he was
00:04:05.620 talking to somebody about the weather and he happened to say that she doesn't have what it
00:04:10.100 takes. She'll be creamed in the, in the election. And I mean, I know her very well. And I happen to
00:04:15.200 believe that Chris Christie's right. That's one of the few things he's been right about, actually.
00:04:18.800 Trump was then asked if he would consider Christie or any of the others running against him in the
00:04:23.300 primary as his vice president. Trump said this. Who would be in the running for a vice president?
00:04:28.880 Well, I can't tell you that really. I mean, I know who it's going to be. Give us a hint.
00:04:33.100 I'll give you, we'll do another show sometime. Well, what about any of the people who you've run
00:04:36.720 against? Would you be open to mending fences with any of them? Oh, sure, I will. I will. I've already
00:04:41.640 started like Christie better. Christie for vice president. I don't see it. I don't see it. That
00:04:51.980 would be an upset. Christie for vice president. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to announce.
00:04:55.980 And each day that goes by, it seems things can't get any worse for Joe Biden. But today,
00:05:01.920 they did. We have more bad news for Joe. A new poll out of Michigan has Joe Biden down 12 points to
00:05:08.420 President Trump in the general election matchup with the third party candidate. And when faced
00:05:13.840 with a head-to-head decision, Trump beats Biden 47 to 39. In 2016, Trump took the state of Michigan
00:05:21.340 by just under 11,000 votes, but lost it in 2020. And I say lost very loosely by 154,000 votes.
00:05:31.640 An interesting margin, don't you think? Just four years apart.
00:05:34.980 Kurt, our guest today is attorney Kurt Olson. Kurt, first of all, thanks for being with us. And
00:05:40.520 I want to turn to some big developments and point of fact, several of them before the Supreme Court
00:05:45.620 now. Let's start with among them, one of the biggest cases they'll take up this term,
00:05:50.580 and that is Missouri versus Biden. That is the case in which Biden colluded with big technology
00:05:56.700 to suppress free speech on the part of conservatives. Give us your take on where the case stands and how
00:06:03.380 it will play out. So if you recall, back on July 4th of this summer, the district court in Louisiana
00:06:11.920 ruled that the administration, the Biden administration and a variety of agencies from
00:06:20.020 the FBI to CISA to DHS to the Surgeon General, the CDC, all had engaged in one of the most significant
00:06:29.500 violations of the First Amendment in the history of our country. And that's almost a direct quote.
00:06:36.460 And that is, these agencies were strong-arming and mandating that social media companies censor
00:06:45.480 Americans, de-platform them if they didn't speak the party line, particularly with respect to the story
00:06:53.740 of whether COVID originated from a wet market or came out of a lab, for example, in China,
00:07:01.120 or with respect to what has been called the most secure election in history, if you recall that after
00:07:09.520 2020. If anybody criticized those things, the FBI, CISA, DHS, the Biden White House was engaged in a
00:07:18.320 censorship operation to stop Americans from talking about or even learning about information that
00:07:24.700 would question the administration's viewpoint. And that, go ahead.
00:07:31.180 No, I was saying absolutely. And what we saw unfold was absolute totalitarian suppression
00:07:39.260 of freedom of speech, of public debate.
00:07:45.020 It's breathtaking in its scope. And it's actually, it is probably, I think, the most frightening
00:07:52.880 development in the history of our country, because it is Orwell come to life. And this involves,
00:08:00.320 you know, the terms that are being used now, disinformation, malinformation, and misinformation.
00:08:06.100 What they're doing is they're putting into the lexicon those terms to label things that the
00:08:13.100 government doesn't want people to know about. And by labeling it, then you can then regulate it.
00:08:19.480 And so this is as much a psychological ploy as it is an actual legal ploy. They have defined
00:08:26.600 disinformation as whatever the government doesn't want to be heard. And then they have moved and
00:08:34.180 strong-armed social media companies to censor Americans with respect to that. They do it under
00:08:40.600 the guise that were to protect the American public. And it's just breathtaking to me that our
00:08:48.940 government, that even, and judges, some judges have even gone along with this, people who should know
00:08:55.520 better. But the point is, is that the federal district court judge on July 4th, and I don't believe
00:09:02.180 that that was coincidental, that date was chosen by that court, you know, ruled on an injunction,
00:09:09.240 meaning that the plaintiffs, which included the state of Missouri and the state of Louisiana,
00:09:13.720 some private individuals and a news organization, that their claims were likely to succeed.
00:09:20.340 And therefore, the federal district court judge imposed an injunction prohibiting these officials
00:09:27.280 and agencies from strong-arming and censoring speech on these social media companies. But what's
00:09:34.740 significant is the Fifth Circuit upheld that injunction in part in September, and that was a three-judge
00:09:43.440 panel. But on a rehearing en banc with the full court, the full Fifth Circuit added one of the defendants
00:09:51.300 that had been eliminated by the panel, and that was CISA. And CISA is, as the Attorney General of Missouri
00:10:04.960 said, they are the, quote, nerve center of a vast censorship enterprise. And to put, you know,
00:10:13.300 kind of an example, if you recall, remember the Hunter Biden laptop story, where 51 intelligence
00:10:20.060 professionals said that this was Russian disinformation.
00:10:23.620 Yeah, Russian disinformation. I say on this show quite often, Kurt, I say that the Biden
00:10:31.420 administration offers three types of information, misinformation, disinformation, and no information.
00:10:37.640 And that is precisely what they do. You mentioned the cybersecurity and infrastructure agency.
00:10:45.500 They are the ones who, as you pointed out, declared it to be the most secure election in history,
00:10:53.020 that the presidential election of 2020, when they knew full well at that very moment that Iranians had
00:10:59.720 seized the identities of 100,000 voters and did not make that public. It became public.
00:11:06.640 Certainly nothing was going to be forthcoming from those agencies at that point in time.
00:11:13.940 And it is also the agency that subsequently had to retract, but did so under cover of some
00:11:22.100 year and a half later and language to acknowledge they were wrong. Yet that was what everybody was
00:11:30.100 using in the national media, government agencies, the Democratic Party to hammer people like, for
00:11:35.560 example, me over the head, because I was calling into question the integrity of that election.
00:11:41.860 It's outrageous, as you say. It is breathtaking without question.
00:11:47.020 Well, what's fascinating is CISA came out with that statement, and that was Chris Krebs,
00:11:51.140 I believe on November 12th, just a week after the election, it was the most secure.
00:11:56.080 But so let's look at two things. Did they investigate anything within that time to ensure that it was
00:12:02.880 the most secure? Obviously not, unless, of course, they're absolutely monitoring every single voting
00:12:11.400 machine in the 3,000 plus counties in the country. And if they're doing that, that means they're online.
00:12:17.580 So how can CISA be monitoring something if it's not online, as is always claimed, or not? But to put a cap
00:12:28.320 on this, if you recall, on December 15th, just a month after the election, they announced the SolarWinds
00:12:35.680 hack, which was the largest penetration of government and private sector companies in the history of our
00:12:43.920 country. It was, I think CNN called it an earth shattering moment. And so that shows you the
00:12:51.700 vulnerability, at least with respect to electronic voting machines. But there were many other issues
00:12:58.240 with the election that go beyond just that. But it's just, what it shows you is that there is this mass
00:13:03.940 propaganda effort to shape people's opinion without any basis. So when they would claim that there were
00:13:13.440 baseless claims of election fraud, what basis did they have to say it was the most secure election
00:13:20.080 in history? What did they do to say that that was true? Nothing other than mere words. And the evidence
00:13:26.880 contradicted that. And that's one of the reasons that the Democrats, the Marxist Dems are fighting
00:13:33.920 with every tool they have, crooked and otherwise, to stop Donald Trump, because they know that if he gets
00:13:40.760 into office, all of this is going to spill onto not even the corrupt national, corporatist, globalist
00:13:48.720 media can stop it. Because we know that that election was rigged. You know, because you've been fighting
00:13:55.620 in court for the revelations and the evidence that you have, whether it's in Arizona and representing
00:14:05.200 Kerry Lake, the so-called defeated gubernatorial candidate there, or Mike Lindell at my pillow.
00:14:16.160 The truth will prevail. I am absolutely certain of it. We're talking with Kurt Olson, one of the chief
00:14:22.400 warriors, making certain that is the result of this conflict that has now raged for three years in this
00:14:30.240 country. We're talking with Kurt Olson, and we will be right back. You don't want to miss a single minute.
00:14:41.360 We're back now. We're talking with Kurt Olson. And Kurt, I want to turn to, if we may,
00:14:47.840 President Trump appealing the decision, barring him from the main primary ballot by a unelected
00:14:55.200 secretary of state who just simply decided she would take things into her own hands. And,
00:15:00.800 and, you know, it used to be the Democrats were the ones that count every vote. I believe I remember
00:15:06.640 them saying that at various points over the years. And now they don't want any vote counted at all.
00:15:12.400 Your thoughts? Well, I mean, that's exactly what it is. I mean, the hypocrisy is breathtaking. So you have
00:15:19.040 an unelected official, the Secretary of State in Maine is appointed, and her name is Sheena Bellows.
00:15:28.320 And as most people probably know, she decided that President Trump had committed the crime of
00:15:34.560 insurrection and violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment and therefore could not serve as an office.
00:15:42.080 So she unilaterally made these findings and ordered him removed from the ballot. Now, to be clear,
00:15:50.080 she has stayed her decision. And that decision has been appealed. And the procedure for that is to appeal
00:15:56.480 it to the main superior court. And then from there, it goes to the state Supreme Court and then up to the
00:16:02.160 US Supreme Court. But what this really is, it's a narrative. What they're trying to do is to give a
00:16:08.720 talking point to influence the media and attack the president. If they felt strongly about their
00:16:15.600 position, they would not have stayed their decision. So what it does in this Colorado Supreme Court in
00:16:22.160 their 4-3 decision did the same thing. They found that the four justices said, well, the president
00:16:28.480 committed insurrection in violation of the 14th Amendment, but we're going to stay our decision.
00:16:33.920 So they get to talk about it, but it has no effect, because the president obviously is appealing these
00:16:39.200 decisions.
00:16:40.800 It is, to me, this is a revelation for the American people. And I believe it's one of the reasons
00:16:48.400 that the president is rising week after week in these polls, which he already dominates.
00:16:54.320 There is no hiding place for these fools now. The Marxist Dems are known for what they are. They're
00:17:00.640 Marxist. They're totalitarian, authoritarian. They're not in any way working at any point for
00:17:06.960 the American people. The prosperity and the health and the well-being and welfare of working men and
00:17:13.360 women in this country and their families, the middle class. They are absolutely trying to tear this
00:17:19.760 country apart and have done a pretty good job to this point. But now the evidence is mounting
00:17:25.680 exponentially to their perfidy, their corruption, their ignorance, and their intent as Marxists
00:17:34.640 who mean to destroy everything American. Your thoughts?
00:17:39.680 I think it's more than just the Democrats. I think it's an establishment that's in power that's
00:17:45.760 trying to retain power. I think elections have been, to a large part, controlled. You may not be able to
00:17:53.280 determine 100% a candidate, but they can put their thumb on the scale through a very large
00:18:02.480 organization that I think is metastasized throughout the country. I don't think the
00:18:06.320 fraud in our country in elections is one-off. I think it's centrally directed and controlled.
00:18:12.480 And I don't say that lightly. I mean, you recall the Time Magazine article that came out,
00:18:16.640 I think in February of 2021, where they talk about how they bragged, how they didn't rig the election,
00:18:23.600 they fortified it. And it showed all these different groups on a nationwide scale
00:18:30.400 who actually, I think, participated and rigged the 2020 election. But what's coming out now is what you can
00:18:38.480 see that there's a multifaceted approach to block anybody from looking at the 2020 election. And that
00:18:47.680 is the criminal prosecution of President Trump. Jack Smith's indictment in DC relates to the so-called
00:18:56.880 the alternate electors scheme. And now those alternate electors, which had been done before,
00:19:02.640 like, for example, in the 1960 election in Hawaii, where two slates of electors were put forward in
00:19:08.640 Hawaii. The indictment of the president centers on his belief, which is justified, that 2020 was rigged,
00:19:21.120 both from constitutional law violations and from actual illegal voting. That indictment centers on it,
00:19:28.720 the defamation cases that Dominion and other voting machine companies center on that. The prosecution
00:19:36.000 by Fannie Willis in Fulton County, Georgia centers on it. The bar charges against attorneys like myself
00:19:44.000 who bring election cases. This is a multifaceted effort to stop anybody from looking at the 2020 election
00:19:53.760 because it exposes the power control that is being employed to keep Americans from actually electing
00:20:03.440 the officials they want. Right. You know, I take your point in arguing with me about this being simply
00:20:11.200 the Marxist Dems. I don't mean it to be simply the Marcus Dems. What I what I am saying is that I don't
00:20:18.400 want any Republican, any conservative, any citizen in any way diluting the impact of a party, a political
00:20:28.240 party, the Democrat Party that has been overtaken by a group of Marxist ideologues. There is no
00:20:33.600 equivocation. There is no posturing or couching any of this. That's who they are. And they mean to destroy
00:20:41.040 this country. I take your point about the establishment, but the establishment itself has absorbed these
00:20:48.800 Marxist values have been inculcated in H.R. departments across across Wall Street, big tech and, of course,
00:20:57.520 big business. It's I think most people, their minds probably just kind of glaze over as we talk about some of
00:21:04.880 these acronyms, whether it's CRT, ESG, DEI, you name it. They have bought into it and they bought into
00:21:13.040 it because of their globalist elitism. It is not per se that there's simply a quote unquote Republican
00:21:20.640 institution because those institutions have moved away from the Republican Party and did so within the
00:21:26.480 last five years. They're now interlocked with the Marxist Dems, the elitist and globalist elitists
00:21:36.880 who are tearing this country to pieces. I truly see it that way, Kurt. Do you do you not agree?
00:21:45.040 I agree 100 percent. And you can see it in the polling. So, for example, more and more people
00:21:51.840 understand that our elections are being rigged. And that's because they're losing the narrative
00:21:57.520 and we are putting out actual evidence that shows that. And whether it's in Arizona or in Georgia,
00:22:06.960 for example, in Georgia, the state the state election board was going to hold a hearing on December 19th
00:22:14.800 over credible allegations that show, for example, among other things, there were 17000 more ballots
00:22:21.440 than the state could show were images. But where did they come from? Because in Georgia,
00:22:26.800 you have to have a corresponding image to the ballot. So that means that somebody stuffed ballots in there
00:22:33.840 and rigged the election. But the Secretary of State's council said, oh, we found the images.
00:22:41.440 And so this has just happened last month. Right. So the SCB said, well, show us the images. And
00:22:48.320 there was a little bit of stammering and they came back and said, well, we can't find it.
00:22:52.960 So the SCB canceled the hearing and now is issuing a subpoena to say, produce the images that you said you had.
00:22:59.040 Yeah. And within that, Judge Amy Totenberg, federal district court judge in
00:23:05.840 in Atlanta with a bench trial again, making a determination as to why the Secretary of State,
00:23:15.360 Raffensperger, will not, doesn't want to be under oath as he appears before the court.
00:23:24.160 When she says and is acknowledged and what was it, 135 page ruling, she says point blank that there is
00:23:33.040 every reason to doubt the the integrity of that voting system in Georgia.
00:23:39.440 Yeah. And it begs it always begs the question, what do they have to hide?
00:23:45.200 If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't fear testifying under oath in this context.
00:23:51.360 And you should be transparent. In other words, election machines, the chain of custody documents
00:23:59.040 for ballots and things like that. Why is there this? It's a concerted effort across
00:24:04.720 many, many jurisdictions in the country and many states to prevent people from looking inside and
00:24:11.120 seeing what goes on. We're supposed to be good boys and girls and just pretend that
00:24:16.560 it's normal to have a little black box. Tell us who's just been elected president
00:24:21.120 or to have a television network make a declaration when and when it feels like it and makes it makes
00:24:30.240 it so through that declaration. We have a system that really needs some real consideration and
00:24:35.440 investigation still after all these three years. We're talking with Kurt Olson, great attorney,
00:24:41.760 great American. We're coming right back. Please stay with us.
00:24:50.560 We're back now with attorney Kurt Olson and Kurt, let's turn to another area and that is special
00:24:57.120 counsel Jack Smith. Now before the Supreme Court, wanting the Supreme Court to strip President
00:25:04.880 Trump of any presidential immunity. How is that going to end? And your thoughts as the Supreme
00:25:12.240 Court right now, it seems to be the dumping ground for all of these issues pertaining to the integrity
00:25:21.360 of 2020. At some point, will there just be a cumulative weight where they'll have to say,
00:25:28.080 you know, Jack Smith, Joe Biden, Mary Garland, you people have been screwing this country up for three
00:25:34.800 years. We can't we can't assume that you're going to have clean hands in anything. Or would that be
00:25:41.520 just too much of a wish on my part? I think we'll look at it as a glass half full. So I think they're
00:25:48.480 going to take they're obviously going to take some cases on presidential immunity, even though Jack Smith
00:25:53.120 was rejected in his efforts to bring it straight to the Supreme Court. So the issue of presidential
00:26:00.720 immunity is going to be heard by the D.C. Circuit. And that is not a settled question of law with respect
00:26:08.400 to criminal criminal matters. And so the issue there is there are a number of Supreme Court cases
00:26:15.920 that most notably the Nixon v. Fitzgerald, where presidents are immune for acts even within the
00:26:26.160 outer perimeter of their official responsibility, is the phrase, from civil liability. But there has not
00:26:34.240 been any case on the criminal side that has directly held the president is immune. But the same concepts would
00:26:43.600 apply. And so here, this is an issue, again, with what Jack Smith has brought. He is focusing on
00:26:52.800 the president calling out and directing investigations into election fraud to pursue efforts to uncover that.
00:27:03.280 And regardless of whether it impacts his office, that's owed to the country.
00:27:10.480 If you recall, and I was one of the primary drafters, we on behalf of Texas, we filed a complaint directly
00:27:20.240 in the U.S. Supreme Court on December 7th, 2020, challenging the elections in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,
00:27:28.160 Michigan, and Georgia, that they were conducted unlawfully in violation of the Constitution,
00:27:34.160 because non-legislative actors were making changes to election law that either just eviscerated or reduced
00:27:41.200 security. They would do away with signature verification. They would have unmanned drop boxes
00:27:46.000 where anybody could dump thousands of ballots and direct violation to the legislators enacted laws,
00:27:54.720 which were designed to prevent fraud. These governors, secretaries of state, and even some state courts were
00:28:05.040 doing away with security measures that ensure the integrity of the vote. And then we showed there were
00:28:10.960 actual instances of outcome-determinative illegal voting, both issues, constitutional and factual.
00:28:17.440 For example, 18 states joined Texas. That was huge. That was a watershed moment. You had six of those
00:28:25.760 states move to intervene directly and 12 filed supporting briefs. And so this was at the beginning
00:28:32.240 of December, just about a little over a month from the election. Correct. Just and so people may not
00:28:39.760 recall that that was a watershed moment in the history of this country. You had 18 states plus Texas
00:28:46.560 saying that the election was fraudulent or illegal. And if I may just insert this Kurt and remind
00:28:55.280 everybody, because it's one of the things that gets lost. We forget about the drama of the moment,
00:29:00.960 the tension of the moment, the historical tension of that moment. In three states, three states,
00:29:09.360 44,000 votes determined that Joe Biden became president. 44,000 votes, ladies and gentlemen.
00:29:20.640 And otherwise, beyond that, immense questions remain. But I just wanted to add that, Kurt,
00:29:26.960 so that people recall just how close that election was and what a thread the Republican
00:29:34.080 the Republican was hanging on. Yeah. And there are issues. So, for example, in Pennsylvania,
00:29:40.320 they still have not addressed the fact. And this is just straight out of Pennsylvania's own official
00:29:46.240 documents. There are more than 120,000 votes than Pennsylvania has recorded of people voting. And by
00:29:57.280 Pennsylvania law, you cannot certify the election when those balances don't reconcile. And that's
00:30:05.200 a statute. That's 25 PA 3154. Anybody can look it up. Well, not anybody. I need a little help to look
00:30:13.600 that one up. Yeah. So DuckDuckGo is your friend. I don't Google. But in any event, it's 25 PA 3154. And so,
00:30:21.680 I mean, to this day, Pennsylvania should not have been certified. And this is what the establishment
00:30:30.720 powers are trying to criminalize people even looking at, because it goes to the heart of a system that
00:30:39.520 they've put in place to control elections. So I want to get to this final question here.
00:30:49.120 Eighteen states join. Eighteen attorneys general. It is, the election is hanging by the, I think we
00:31:00.320 could argue that that's the closest election in history. Perhaps 2000, you can argue, was closer.
00:31:07.360 But why did the Supreme Court refuse to take it up in that moment when there was so much tension,
00:31:16.400 so much conflict, and so much obvious, obvious assaults on the integrity of the election,
00:31:25.680 whether it's Pennsylvania, whether it's Wisconsin, Georgia, you name it.
00:31:30.080 So the Supreme Court dismissed that based on standing. It was a two-sentence order. They did not
00:31:35.760 address the merits at all. And so they avoided the question. And there were two issues there. And so
00:31:42.080 I just want to highlight there were the constitutional violations where our constitution under articles one
00:31:48.800 and two, the elections and electors clause basically says to set election law, that's the purview of the
00:31:55.760 state legislature. You can't have non-legislative actors like courts, like secretaries of state,
00:32:04.160 and governors, you know, administrative, executive officials, changing election law. And here,
00:32:10.800 they not only changed election law, they made it easier to cheat uniformly.
00:32:15.360 And then there were the actual instances where we could show that outcome-determinative votes were
00:32:22.640 injected or put into the system that were illegal. And, you know, these two issues
00:32:32.720 show that, and the Supreme Court's avoidance of it, I think means that they were afraid.
00:32:41.360 Yeah. They were afraid. But it's not such a bad thing, because I like to look at
00:32:46.240 the world, you know, with the silver lining. We have learned so much since 2020 to the present day.
00:32:54.160 If the Supreme Court had ruled back then, everybody would have gone back to sleep and said the system
00:33:00.800 worked. And because they didn't, we now know that this is much more than just a stolen election. There is a
00:33:10.640 system in place that is corrupt. And it's corrupt to the core, down to lower level election officials,
00:33:20.960 to politicians, to judges. If you look across the board, we put evidence after evidence. And I'll make
00:33:27.280 a plug now. There's a movie that we made about Arizona, and it's called State of Denial. And everybody
00:33:33.600 can go, there's a website where that can be viewed on Rumble, Twitter, and elsewhere. But it's
00:33:39.040 state-of-denial.com. And there we show the actual evidence. And courts are bending over backwards to
00:33:53.600 say, the law doesn't apply to this, or that evidence doesn't count. And so what people are seeing
00:34:02.960 is that the traditional guardians of our freedom, those we have entrusted to do the right thing,
00:34:11.280 that that's no longer the case. You can't rely on those traditional officials to guard our freedoms.
00:34:21.840 So what we've learned is that the system is not there to protect our freedoms. And people are going to
00:34:29.360 have to get off the couch and do more than just vote to preserve those freedoms.
00:34:35.760 Well, and again, the movie, we recommend it to you highly, State of Denial. And we'll have it
00:34:44.800 posted on all of our social media. And we will be hawking the documentary throughout. So we appreciate
00:34:52.480 that. I want to say, as we close here, you say the system worked, is the sort of the inversion of
00:35:04.960 what you said, because the Supreme Court didn't have the courage to take it up. I take quite a different
00:35:10.160 view, Kurt. I think the Supreme Court was absolutely cowardly.
00:35:17.200 I think that they had a responsibility that they ducked on some sort of silly pretext that
00:35:24.880 some people call the law. It wasn't law, it was avoidance. And I don't think that all of us who
00:35:31.920 aren't lawyers, I think we know what it was, because it smelled a high heaven. They simply ran from it.
00:35:38.240 And they ran from it with, you know, one of the, as I understand the law, one of the fundamental
00:35:42.880 standings as to, if you're a state in conflict with another, you've got to automatically go before
00:35:49.040 the Supreme Court. Am I wrong in that?
00:35:51.280 Well, so standing, which is what the court dismissed the case on,
00:35:56.560 they said that Texas doesn't have an interest in what happens in Pennsylvania. Well, given that we
00:36:02.000 have a president, yes, we have a president that affects the entire country, who the evidence,
00:36:09.440 both from the constitutional law violations and on, and the merits, showed that there are,
00:36:16.800 well, I believe the election was rigged, but at a minimum, they showed that there were serious
00:36:20.960 questions about the election that the court should have addressed.
00:36:25.040 Yeah. And you know what that sounds like, Kurt? You know what it sounds like for the court to
00:36:29.200 have made that statement? It sounds like the old John Roberts, you know, a tax is just a fee,
00:36:35.680 a fee is not a tax, you know, to support Obamacare. I mean, these are the kind of specious pieces of
00:36:43.120 reasoning that echo down through history. And they're straightforwardly pure BS. This is a court
00:36:53.680 that lacks guts. It's a judiciary that is corrupt. You can't get a fair trial if you're an independent
00:36:59.680 or a conservative or a MAGA person. If you're not a Marxist dem, there's a whole raft of states,
00:37:10.320 about half of them, that you couldn't get a fair trial on a bet. Am I wrong?
00:37:15.920 No, you're not wrong at all. And the only point that I was making before is that the silver lining is,
00:37:22.400 I think people realize that they can't trust the system any longer, and they need to do something
00:37:28.240 about it. Yeah. And absolutely. And one of those doing a lot about it is Kurt Olson. And Kurt,
00:37:36.000 the documentary again, give us the URL.
00:37:40.240 It is www.state-of-denial.com.
00:37:48.080 Beautiful. And we urge you to please go take a look. And Kurt, as always, great talking with you.
00:37:56.080 Always I get an education and learn something, and I appreciate it so much. And I know the audience
00:38:00.720 does as well. Thank you so much. Kurt Olson. Thank you, Lou. Much appreciated.
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