The Great America Show - LAWFARE AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP CONTINUES TO BACKFIRE ON DEMS

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

00:00:05.020 It's great to have you with us.

00:00:06.460 President Trump has been a victim of lawfare and political persecution for the last nine

00:00:10.140 years, but it has really ramped up since he announced he would be running for president

00:00:13.660 this election cycle.

00:00:15.460 Once the Marxist Dems in deep state knew he would be running, it was off to the races

00:00:19.240 and how they could stop him.

00:00:21.020 He was indicted in New York Hoshmani Sham case and found guilty by a group of Marxist

00:00:24.840 New York jurors.

00:00:25.600 Then you have the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case, which has been dismissed by Judge Eileen

00:00:30.160 Cannon, a case that should have never been brought in the first case because President

00:00:33.700 Trump was allowed to retain those documents under the Presidential Records Act.

00:00:37.900 Then, of course, you have the ridiculous January 6th case in D.C., which has been headed by

00:00:42.220 highly partisan Judge Tanya Chudkin.

00:00:44.720 That case has now fallen apart thanks to the Supreme Court's immunity ruling, forcing

00:00:48.980 Junkyard Jackal Special Counsel Jack Smith to go back to the drawing board and file new

00:00:53.520 charges against President Trump.

00:00:54.860 Finally, you have the Fannie Willis-Fulton County case for President Trump once again

00:00:59.580 challenging a rigged election.

00:01:01.720 But as of today, that case is now officially falling apart.

00:01:05.160 On Thursday, Fulton County Superior Judge Judge Scott McAfee dismissed three more counts

00:01:09.540 against President Trump.

00:01:11.380 All three of the dismissed charges concerned fake electors attempting to file false documents

00:01:15.900 with the state.

00:01:17.240 In other words, they were nothing more than BS charges that were just added to the already

00:01:20.500 long laundry list by Fannie Willis.

00:01:22.260 It's truly disheartening that we are at this crossroads in this country, and it's all because

00:01:27.060 the Marxist Dems hate this country, and they hate the fact that President Trump made this

00:01:30.820 country great in his first four years and will do it again in the next four.

00:01:34.620 The most insane part about it all is how these Dems mean to harm America, and they do it with

00:01:39.220 a straight face.

00:01:40.480 Take, for example, A.G.

00:01:41.760 He held a press conference this week, and with a straight face, he told the American people

00:01:46.680 he would not allow his DOJ to be used as a political weapon.

00:01:50.640 I'm not kidding you.

00:01:51.640 He actually said that.

00:01:52.860 Take a listen.

00:01:53.440 Our norms are a promise that we will fiercely protect the independence of this department

00:02:02.460 from political interference in our criminal investigations.

00:02:07.740 Our norms are a promise that we will not allow this department to be used as a political weapon.

00:02:14.840 And our norms are a promise that we will not allow this nation to become a country where

00:02:24.680 law enforcement is treated as an apparatus of politics.

00:02:30.640 It's unclear if Merrick Garland is all there in the head, but for him to make such an outlandish

00:02:35.020 statement after his DOJ has done just that to President Trump is absurd.

00:02:39.840 These Marxist Dems mean to harm America, and they're doing a hell of a job so far.

00:02:43.640 To take up all the lawfare wages against President Trump, our guest is one of President Trump's

00:02:48.140 leading attorneys, Will Sharp.

00:02:49.660 Will, thanks so much for joining us today here on The Great America Show.

00:02:52.500 I want to start with, if we may, where President Trump sits right now with all his cases, if

00:02:57.760 you can.

00:02:58.240 Let's start with the E. Jean Carroll case that you guys are now in the middle of appeal for,

00:03:02.940 right?

00:03:03.180 Is that correct?

00:03:04.240 Yeah, so there are actually two E. Jean Carroll cases.

00:03:07.260 One, which we call Carroll, two is over her actual sexual assault allegations.

00:03:12.500 We argued that in front of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit last Friday.

00:03:19.000 The other case, which is still out there, is her defamation case, which is actually a larger

00:03:25.660 monetary judgment.

00:03:27.660 We're set to file briefs on that imminently, and that'll likely be argued in a few months.

00:03:35.140 It's not coming up anytime soon.

00:03:36.940 But that's the other E. Jean Carroll case.

00:03:39.700 We also have a pending civil case.

00:03:42.960 That's the case that was brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James. 0.94

00:03:46.760 That's this half-billion-dollar verdict that relates to President Trump doing absolutely

00:03:51.620 nothing wrong, providing accurate statements of financial condition that Tish James disagrees

00:03:56.840 with, purported civil fraud case.

00:03:59.940 And then we're still working on the criminal front.

00:04:01.820 You know, we got sentencing pushed off in the New York DA's case.

00:04:06.240 We got the Florida documents case dismissed altogether, although that issue is now up on

00:04:10.980 appeal before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit.

00:04:14.300 D.C. is getting ready to start moving again.

00:04:16.900 We have motions due in front of Judge Chutkin in D.C. in the next month.

00:04:23.240 And then Georgia, we're waiting on word from the Georgia appellate courts whether they're

00:04:27.380 going to disqualify Fannie Willis or not.

00:04:30.420 But I think that Georgia case is going nowhere fast.

00:04:34.540 All in all, we feel very good about where the litigation position stands as of today.

00:04:40.900 We've been very successful at the U.S. Supreme Court on a number of issues and really just

00:04:46.660 across the whole scope of litigation that President Trump is facing in defending him.

00:04:51.360 And a big reason for that is that he really hasn't done anything wrong here.

00:04:55.240 These are political prosecutions, political cases that are politically motivated.

00:04:59.660 This is all intended to interfere with his ability to run for office.

00:05:04.660 And fortunately, we've gotten in front of enough fair courts that we've been able to win some

00:05:09.320 some pretty big wins.

00:05:11.020 Yeah, it is nothing more than election interference, whether it be the New York cases.

00:05:16.380 And they're all political.

00:05:17.400 We saw last week a D.C., I'm sorry, a U.S.

00:05:21.740 attorney's office official who works with Alvin Bragg, a leaked video of him out on a date

00:05:26.660 with some girl spewing his feelings.

00:05:29.320 And even him, probably a Marxist Democrat like the rest of them, coming out saying these 0.93

00:05:34.320 cases against President Trump are a bunch of nonsense.

00:05:36.980 And it sounded like him. 0.86

00:05:38.240 He was even sick to his stomach that this was happening to President Trump.

00:05:41.740 So how did we get to this point where we're at such a perversion of justice and a weaponized

00:05:49.060 justice system in this country?

00:05:50.540 How did we get here?

00:05:52.280 Yeah, you know, that tape is fascinating.

00:05:54.860 This is the head of public affairs for the U.S.

00:05:57.820 attorney's office for the Southern District of New York.

00:06:00.240 The Southern District of New York is considered by many to be the preeminent federal prosecutor's

00:06:05.520 office in the country.

00:06:06.480 It's interesting that SDNY has never really taken any action against President Trump.

00:06:12.960 They looked at the election interference claims and all that sort of stuff that basically underlay

00:06:18.640 Alvin Bragg's case, and they declined it because there was no there there.

00:06:23.740 So this is a guy who obviously didn't want to be quoted, wouldn't say any of this publicly,

00:06:27.920 but he understands what's going on, which is that if President Trump weren't who he was,

00:06:32.640 if he weren't running for president, none of this campaign of lawfare would have ever

00:06:36.860 happened.

00:06:37.400 None of these cases can stand on their own merit.

00:06:40.320 I think behind closed doors, folks on the left know that they know that this is a political

00:06:45.660 play, not a legal play.

00:06:47.280 And they understand that none of these cases really have a leg to stand on.

00:06:52.820 What we've seen time and time again is you have these prosecutors, whether it's Jack Smith

00:06:57.800 or Fannie Willis, and they get in front of the cameras the day that an indictment's returned

00:07:02.680 and they pretend to be Elliot Ness.

00:07:04.600 And then they actually get into court and they fold like a house of cards because they

00:07:08.340 haven't done the work.

00:07:09.360 President Trump didn't actually do anything wrong.

00:07:11.820 And there's just no legal merit to any of the claims that they're bringing.

00:07:14.980 And that leak takes a great example of someone who has, you know, he's not a Trump guy.

00:07:20.140 He's not part of our team, but he understands what's going on.

00:07:23.820 And at least in that setting, was willing to speak the truth.

00:07:26.780 You know, one of the cases that it just blows my mind is Juan Merchant and the guilty verdict

00:07:33.780 we got out of New York, the first guilty verdict in all of the cases against President Trump.

00:07:38.500 And I say guilty in air quotes.

00:07:41.560 Why do you think he pushed off that sentencing till after the election?

00:07:46.060 Obviously, it's already election interference, right?

00:07:48.260 The whole trial happening before the election, just months before the election, voting is already

00:07:52.160 underway.

00:07:53.300 Why do you think he pushed it off?

00:07:54.800 I'm going to give you two scenarios.

00:07:56.780 Do you believe he wanted to sentence President Trump to jail?

00:08:00.660 And if he sentenced President Trump to jail, it's probably a shoo-in for the race?

00:08:05.080 Or do you want to see what happens after the November 5th election to then make a determination?

00:08:11.900 Does he sentence him to jail if he loses?

00:08:13.780 Does he sentence him to jail if he wins or vice versa?

00:08:15.920 So, sentencing in that case was originally scheduled for July 11th.

00:08:21.120 That was a couple of days before the RNC.

00:08:23.880 What happened was that we won this massive presidential immunity victory at the U.S. Supreme Court on July 1st.

00:08:30.980 Now, the presidential immunity decision, that says that presidents are immune for their official conduct.

00:08:38.560 The New York case relates to private conduct.

00:08:41.280 But the Supreme Court also said that in a prosecution brought over private conduct, you can't use as evidence immune acts, acts for which a president would have immunity.

00:08:52.520 And they did exactly that in that New York prosecution.

00:08:55.480 They introduced a ton of evidence that's covered by the Supreme Court's decision.

00:09:00.220 So, I think Merchan understood that he had a real problem.

00:09:03.460 He originally delayed sentencing to September 18th.

00:09:06.980 We've continued challenging this case on the basis of presidential immunity.

00:09:10.920 And, frankly, the New York DA's office seems to understand that they really screwed up because they've essentially agreed to push sentencing off twice now.

00:09:20.100 I don't think sentencing will actually ever occur.

00:09:22.880 I think, at the very least, we deserve a retrial, if not an absolute dismissal, on the basis of presidential immunity alone.

00:09:30.500 And if this case were ever to get to direct appeal, we have ample grounds to overturn that jury verdict.

00:09:36.180 The way that jury instructions were framed, many of Judge Merchan's decisions over the course of that case, they just won't stand up to appellate scrutiny.

00:09:45.960 So, I think Judge Merchan understands that, legally, he has a real problem with trying to force through sentencing before a presidential election.

00:09:53.420 And in his order with this most recent continuance of sentencing, he essentially acknowledged that trying to do this before the election, given the very serious legal issues that we've raised, it raises an appearance of impropriety.

00:10:08.580 It looks bad.

00:10:10.260 I think he's deeply concerned that he's just way out over his skis here.

00:10:15.120 And we're glad that he saw the light here and that he made what I think is the right decision in delaying sentencing for another few months.

00:10:23.460 Now, I know you, and I'm not saying it's in any degrading way, because you guys are entitled to make money as lawyers.

00:10:29.040 But why should it even come to a retrial? 0.99

00:10:31.620 The whole case was brought on a bunch of bullshit. 0.99

00:10:34.100 I mean, it doesn't get much simpler than that. 0.99

00:10:38.220 Why should President Trump have to, it doesn't matter if he's a billionaire or not, because you put it all in perspective, right?

00:10:44.260 This could happen to the small man who's worth $100,000 and it'll still cost him.

00:10:48.640 Why does it even have to come to the point where President Trump has to spend millions and millions and millions of more dollars to go to a retrial on a case that should have never been brought in the first place?

00:10:57.960 And it's just a perversion of justice.

00:11:00.040 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:11:01.140 I mean, this case should have never been brought.

00:11:03.160 The reason that the FEC, the reason that Biden's own DOJ declined to prosecute President Trump on related grounds is that President Trump didn't do anything wrong here.

00:11:13.340 So you've got Michael Cohen, a serial perjurer, who's willing to come into court and tell a story.

00:11:19.140 And we're in front of a New York jury, in front of a biased judge who should have recused himself.

00:11:24.100 And you see how the legal system can be perverted for political ends.

00:11:28.860 But, yeah, if you were dealing with a defendant who wasn't Donald Trump, who didn't have the resources that President Trump has, I mean, they've indicted him in four courts.

00:11:38.120 They're trying to seize his businesses.

00:11:40.320 I mean, this is just it's absolutely corrupt behavior.

00:11:43.540 And it's a total perversion of everything that we as Americans stand for in terms of constitutional rights, in terms of the rule of law, in terms of the way that our legal system is supposed to function.

00:11:54.780 It really is outrageous that we've even gotten to this point.

00:11:59.000 Yeah, you had mentioned Juan Merchant again and the conflictions he has.

00:12:02.440 I want to take that up on the other side of this break, because I think Juan Merchant, I mean, any way you look at it, is one of the most conflicted judges.

00:12:09.560 I think we've ever seen on any high profile, any case that I can ever think about back in history between his daughter making millions of dollars and raising millions of dollars for the DNC working for Kamala Harris.

00:12:23.080 I also want to take up on the other side of this break, Jack Smith's latest indictment against President Trump in D.C.

00:12:29.700 The man just can't take an L. We're going to talk about it on the other side of the break.

00:12:33.120 We're talking with Will Scharf. We're coming right back.

00:12:34.700 We'll see you next time.

00:13:04.700 This amazing offer won't last long, so order now.

00:13:18.840 Just go to MyPillow.com or call 800-969-3077.

00:13:24.840 That's MyPillow.com.

00:13:26.380 Use promo code John, J-O-H-N, or call 800-969-3077.

00:13:33.280 And be sure to use promo code John, that's J-O-H-N, for all those amazing savings on all MyPillow products.

00:13:43.180 We're back. We're talking with Attorney Will Scharf, one of President Trump's leading attorneys.

00:13:47.500 Will, before we went to break, I brought up Juan Merchant and his daughter and all her conflicting issues.

00:13:52.740 How does a judge like this, when you have a daughter who's raised near $100 million for the DNC off of the Trump case alone, and I say off of the Trump case alone, nothing else, just emails sent out that President Trump was being prosecuted and the Democrats fundraised off of it.

00:14:09.700 Juan Merchant's daughter is involved.

00:14:11.520 Before that, making money, millions of dollars, I think $8 million off the Kamala Harris campaign.

00:14:15.840 Now, this is a kid. I work the ranks of politics. I've never seen a million dollars come into my pocket, and I've worked from the bottom up.

00:14:23.440 How is a judge allowed to sit and stay on a case when he has his daughter making all this damn money off this case? 1.00

00:14:31.800 How is that not ripe for, I mean, an automatic dismissal?

00:14:34.840 Yeah, you know, we've moved repeatedly for Judge Merchant to recuse off of this case, and it's important to remember what the legal standard is.

00:14:43.840 In Kaepernick v. Massey, which is the seminal Supreme Court case on judicial recusal, the Supreme Court held that given sufficiently extreme facts, which I believe we have here,

00:14:54.000 even the appearance of impropriety is enough to require a judge to recuse, and if a judge doesn't recuse, that's a violation of a party's due process rights.

00:15:05.440 That's what we're dealing with here. Judge Merchant should have recused.

00:15:08.460 I think his failure to recuse is in and of itself reversible error, and it's just crazy that we have this situation where you have a guy with the conflict that he has.

00:15:19.180 I mean, he also contributed money to Joe Biden in 2020, which he shouldn't have done under New York judicial rules.

00:15:25.920 He should have recused, plain and simple. Like you said, I've never seen a case like this.

00:15:31.880 Judges are usually very careful to avoid even the appearance of impropriety, to avoid taking cases where anybody could even question their impartiality,

00:15:41.440 and that's the opposite of what we've seen play out here.

00:15:44.040 So in New York, it's up to the judge, and I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong, is this federally as well,

00:15:49.760 it's up to the judge to recuse himself, not somebody tell the judge, listen, you have to recuse yourself.

00:15:54.960 So judges ultimately get to decide whether to recuse or not. That's a decision left up to their discretion.

00:16:01.340 It is reviewable on appeal, but typically what happens is if a judge doesn't recuse himself, a party will move for recusal,

00:16:10.280 and that's what we've done repeatedly in New York. Judge Rashawn has denied those requests and said that he thinks he can be impartial.

00:16:17.740 We just think that, you know, given the appearance of impropriety, given the conflicts of interest at play,

00:16:22.700 there's no way he should have stayed on this case. That's an issue that if we were to get to direct appeal,

00:16:27.720 we would obviously continue to challenge. In the meantime, though, we think we have other very strong grounds to challenge that jury verdict,

00:16:34.720 and we're certainly hopeful that we get that jury verdict thrown out altogether.

00:16:37.960 It's unbelievable to think that in the first place, a judge is the one who gets to recuse himself.

00:16:44.420 If he decides he doesn't want to recuse himself, you file an appeal for him to recuse himself,

00:16:48.500 and then he makes the ruling on, if he allows you to appeal, him recusing himself.

00:16:52.840 I mean, it's the most ass-backwards thing I've ever heard of in my life, but I guess that's the legal system for you.

00:16:59.640 I want to turn to the D.C. case, Jack Smith, who just can't seem to take a loss, 0.54

00:17:04.300 and the man's been losing, he's been losing it, but he's also losing these cases now.

00:17:09.440 Down in Florida, the case, the Judge Eileen Cannon case, dismissing, should have never been brought in the first place.

00:17:16.940 But now, after the Supreme Court ruling that President Trump has immunity, Jack Smith tailored his case a little bit in D.C.

00:17:24.200 The thing that was alarming to me is he introduced new evidence, evidence that's so confidential that President Trump's attorneys are not allowed to see it.

00:17:33.940 President Trump himself is not allowed to see it.

00:17:36.460 Your thoughts on that?

00:17:38.260 Yes.

00:17:38.520 So, look, what happened here is Jack Smith took a massive loss at the U.S. Supreme Court on presidential immunity.

00:17:44.100 The court ruled that large aspects of that case were just not proper, that you can't attempt to indict a president over his core presidential functions,

00:17:55.360 things like conversations he had with the Department of Justice, asking the Department of Justice to enforce the law.

00:18:02.360 I mean, those are core presidential duties.

00:18:04.320 You're not allowed to attempt to hold a president criminally liable for that.

00:18:08.380 So, Jack Smith took this massive loss but wanted to keep the D.C. case alive.

00:18:13.500 So, he went back in front of a grand jury.

00:18:15.620 He pulled out some of the things that he'd originally relied on but still left in what we believe are mountains of allegations for which President Trump has immunity under the Supreme Court's decision.

00:18:29.740 So, to me, this is a last gasp attempt by Jack Smith to keep a case alive that, as you said, should have never been brought in the first place.

00:18:37.120 But, in addition to that, is on life support, if not hospice care, in the aftermath of that Supreme Court opinion.

00:18:44.160 We're going to see that play out in the next couple months in D.C.

00:18:48.180 We will move to dismiss on a similar basis that we use down in Florida that Jack Smith is unconstitutionally appointed, unconstitutionally funded.

00:19:00.460 Justice Clarence Thomas wrote a great concurrence on exactly that point in Trump, the United States, in the presidential immunity case.

00:19:08.280 And we believe that Jack Smith was unconstitutionally appointed, that he's wielding powers that he can't constitutionally wield.

00:19:16.020 And we're hopeful that that issue gets the due consideration that it deserves in D.C.

00:19:21.380 In addition to that, you know, presidential immunity is still a massive issue.

00:19:25.740 There are issues with the Supreme Court's Fisher case.

00:19:29.200 The Supreme Court basically said that two of the charges in President Trump's case, the DOJ's whole theory of how those charges work, just doesn't mesh with the way those statutes are laid out.

00:19:40.940 It doesn't stand up to a smell test.

00:19:43.780 So we have a lot of grounds to continue fighting in D.C.

00:19:46.920 I don't think that prosecution is moving really at any quick pace at all, certainly not at a pace that will affect the 2024 election.

00:19:55.760 And it's important to note that when that case was first brought, I mean, Jack Smith wanted to go to trial last January on that case.

00:20:03.020 And the case was originally scheduled for trial last March before we successfully got it stayed on the basis of our presidential immunity appeal.

00:20:12.240 So I think Jack Smith's whole plan here was just to force President Trump to sit through trial after trial after trial.

00:20:19.660 We've largely defeated that plan and we're going to keep fighting him.

00:20:22.740 And I think we're going to keep winning.

00:20:24.560 You know, it was so amazing.

00:20:26.980 Lou passed away in the middle of, you know, of July.

00:20:30.220 So you got to see.

00:20:31.240 I mean, he waited for the Supreme Court ruling to come and to come.

00:20:34.600 And he finally got to see it.

00:20:35.820 I was so happy he got to see it because Jack Smith rebuffed by the Supreme Court for the second time in his career.

00:20:40.580 There's a lot of people who don't even get to ever go to the Supreme Court as an attorney.

00:20:43.940 But from this man to be rebuffed twice by the Supreme Court, I mean, absolutely may lose day.

00:20:48.820 I want to focus in on the new documents he introduced.

00:20:53.340 So when they went to Mar-a-Lago and they seized all these documents and they raided the place with guns and went through a safe and they took all the documents.

00:21:00.140 Right.

00:21:00.260 They had over a year now to review the documents.

00:21:03.120 Right.

00:21:03.320 So they they presumably went through everything because they were looking for something he took for the nuclear code, something they could get him on the espionage act.

00:21:10.420 Because, you know, that would be the worst thing they could possibly do to the man.

00:21:13.380 He stole the nuclear codes.

00:21:15.020 You know, he's got war plans.

00:21:17.200 Obviously, none of that was in there because these indictments would have been a lot worse than they really were that we've seen.

00:21:22.780 I mean, why is Jack Smith in this latest indictment introducing new documents that he didn't introduce in the first time?

00:21:30.440 Presumably he had them because, I mean, they have all the manpower in the world.

00:21:33.640 This isn't, you know, a small law firm they're taking their hand and all the documents to and saying, hey, go through this discovery.

00:21:40.120 I mean, this is an organization of thousands of attorneys in the DOJ and the FBI.

00:21:46.240 What is the new document he introduced that's so damning to this new indictment?

00:21:51.040 So, look, I mean, basically, as I said before, the Supreme Court's presidential immunity opinion gutted key parts of Jack Smith's legal theory.

00:22:01.560 So now he's rushing to make up ground.

00:22:03.880 He wants his four counts.

00:22:05.540 He wants his case to proceed.

00:22:07.660 So I think they're basically throwing paint at the wall that they rushed in front of a new grand jury.

00:22:12.700 This was not a slow deliberative process.

00:22:16.480 They wanted to get as much in as they could.

00:22:19.000 And they attempted to sort of fireproof their case from the Supreme Court's presidential immunity decision.

00:22:25.560 I think they've been entirely unsuccessful in doing that.

00:22:28.640 I can't speak to, you know, grand jury documents or things that are under seal here.

00:22:33.360 But basically, from a 10,000 foot view, what you're seeing here is Jack Smith's desperate attempt to rescue a case that after the Supreme Court's decision, any reasonable prosecutor would have just dismissed.

00:22:45.180 We're going to see more tactics like that.

00:22:47.900 We're going to see more shenanigans in the months ahead.

00:22:51.080 Jack Smith's whole office was set up to get Trump.

00:22:54.640 And now that they're failing, they're going to get increasingly desperate.

00:22:58.140 But we believe the law is on our side.

00:23:00.180 And I'll also say that the facts are on our side.

00:23:02.380 I don't believe that President Trump did anything wrong.

00:23:04.660 Certainly nothing illegal in his efforts to investigate election fraud in the aftermath of the 2020 election.

00:23:11.380 And that's really what the case is all about.

00:23:13.540 Yeah, it's election experience.

00:23:15.680 We're going to take a quick break here.

00:23:17.040 The final segment, I want to get your take on the politic, the body politic going on in the United States right now.

00:23:23.080 What happens after November 5th?

00:23:24.620 Should Trump win?

00:23:25.360 Should Trump lose?

00:23:26.480 Where this country goes and the weaponization of the Justice Department.

00:23:29.420 Does it get any better or does it get worse?

00:23:31.320 We're talking with attorney Will Scharf.

00:23:32.640 We're coming right back.

00:23:33.220 We're back.

00:23:39.640 We're talking with President Trump attorney Will Scharf.

00:23:42.660 Will, November 5th is probably the most important day in this nation's history.

00:23:47.340 I mean, recent history, at least.

00:23:50.560 If President Trump doesn't win, I think this country is going down the drain.

00:23:55.520 Give me your thoughts on that.

00:23:58.240 Yeah, as you said, I think this is one of the most important presidential elections in our nation.

00:24:03.220 We really have two competing visions of America.

00:24:06.760 You know, the left has become increasingly unhinged, totally unmoored from core American principles, from the Constitution, from the rule of law.

00:24:14.180 If they win, if Kamala Harris is in the White House, you are going to see radical Marxism, at least attempts to implement radical Marxism in every aspect of American life.

00:24:24.380 I mean, Kamala Harris's first major policy proposal after becoming the Democrat presidential candidate was Marxist price controls. 0.97

00:24:32.940 It was attempting to turn back the clock and basically reenact the Soviet Union's economic policies.

00:24:39.020 I mean, this is not yesteryear's Democrat Party anymore.

00:24:42.320 You know, we're not talking about Bill Clinton or Bill Bradley or whoever anymore.

00:24:46.680 This is a very different breed of leftist.

00:24:49.680 That's what's at stake.

00:24:51.540 I think it's also worth remembering that this is one of the first elections in American history where we have two candidates that both have a presidential record to run on.

00:25:01.640 You know, we know what President Trump got us.

00:25:04.060 He got us one of the strongest economies in American history.

00:25:07.140 Peace abroad, a resurgence of American strength, a secure border.

00:25:10.700 We know what he's capable of and we know what he's going to do if he gets into office.

00:25:15.380 And then on the other hand, we know what the Biden-Harris administration has gotten us.

00:25:19.700 Record inflation, an economy in shambles, a world at war, a totally uncontrolled southern border with tens of millions of people streaming across.

00:25:28.240 We cannot afford another four years of this.

00:25:30.520 I think the American people understand that.

00:25:32.580 The polling reflects that.

00:25:34.140 And that's why I think President Trump is going to win resoundingly in November.

00:25:37.620 But if we don't get out and vote, I mean, if conservatives don't actually put in the work and go out and make sure that our friends vote and that we all get to the polls,

00:25:47.360 unless we make this too big to rig, the Democrats are going to steal another election and we're going to be right back to square one, you know, where we were in 2021.

00:25:55.680 So to me, that's the most important thing is folks need to understand what's at stake here.

00:26:00.420 We can't get dispirited, whether it's by this campaign of lawfare or by the mainstream media.

00:26:05.160 We need to be willing to, as President Trump would say, fight, fight, fight, and make sure we do everything that we can, everything in our power to make sure that November goes the way that it should.

00:26:15.780 You had mentioned too big to rig.

00:26:17.220 I do want to touch on that.

00:26:18.680 But first, I just want to turn to Kamala Harris and the debate.

00:26:23.120 I mean, the first question she was asked was, are folks better off now than they were four years ago?

00:26:29.120 She started rambling.

00:26:30.480 She started rambling.

00:26:31.300 She couldn't answer a straight question.

00:26:33.120 One thing I wish President Trump would have went up there and have done, I think the numbers just came in, 67 million people watched the debate.

00:26:40.780 I wish President Trump would have went up there and looked at Kamala Harris, turned over and looked at Kamala Harris and said, what the hell are you doing on this stage?

00:26:47.500 How did you get here?

00:26:48.800 Because a lot of Americans don't understand the process of how Kamala Harris got there and how, you know, uncommon it is for her to have done what she'd done, pushing Joe Biden out.

00:26:58.980 And I think Joe Biden now, I think he's got extreme resentment for Kamala Harris.

00:27:03.220 I don't know if him putting the Trump hat on this week has anything to do with it, but I think he's got extreme resentment because they did push him out.

00:27:10.320 And that's not democracy.

00:27:11.720 That's not democracy how it works.

00:27:13.860 So I wish President Trump would have went up there and called her out on that because she doesn't belong up there. 0.95

00:27:18.860 She's never received one vote in a Democratic primary for President of the United States.

00:27:25.340 How is that Democratic?

00:27:26.740 Is this the new norm?

00:27:28.260 I mean, we have a weaponized justice system.

00:27:30.580 We have a weaponized.

00:27:31.580 I mean, everything is weaponized in this country against, I guess, the Republicans in a sense, other people, too.

00:27:37.540 But how has this become the new form of democracy where we're pushing out political candidates?

00:27:46.140 I mean, it's literally something you'd see in Venezuela.

00:27:50.140 You had the opponent of Maduro flee the country because it's gotten so bad.

00:27:54.300 To be honest with you, Will, I feel like that's what it's going to come to in November if President Trump doesn't win.

00:28:01.000 Yeah, look, the Democrats love to talk about democracy and they love to talk about rights.

00:28:05.860 They don't care about any of that.

00:28:07.560 They don't care about the Constitution.

00:28:09.040 They don't care about the rule of law.

00:28:10.660 They don't care about really anything.

00:28:13.040 They don't care about our constitutional republic.

00:28:15.440 What they care about is power.

00:28:17.000 And what they care about is enacting their radical leftist agenda.

00:28:20.440 And whenever anything gets in the way, whether it's Trump, whether it's, frankly, Joe Biden and his failing presidential campaign,

00:28:28.580 the left will lie, cheat and steal to make sure that they are in the best position possible to get more leftism done.

00:28:35.320 And that's what we've seen time and time again in modern American history.

00:28:38.620 That's what we've seen play out in this presidential election. 0.98

00:28:42.900 Now, Kamala Harris at the debate, you know, all the pundits said that she did a great job and it's absolute garbage.

00:28:49.460 When you actually look at the polling numbers, the polling numbers show consistently that the number one issue for Americans right now is the economy and inflation.

00:28:59.400 And when you look at the polling numbers coming out of that debate, a vast majority of people who watch that debate had more confidence in President Trump handling the economy than they do in Kamala Harris handling the economy.

00:29:10.980 That is the key number. That is the key metric coming out of that debate.

00:29:16.060 The debate was an unalloyed success for President Trump and an unalloyed failure for Kamala Harris.

00:29:22.320 She failed to convince the American people that she would be a good steward of our economy, which is the issue front of mind for most Americans. 1.00

00:29:29.760 So what's the path forward from here?

00:29:31.720 I don't think there's going to be another presidential debate because I don't think Kamala Harris's team will put her up again. 1.00

00:29:38.040 They had the most friendly moderators possible.

00:29:41.880 They had in this ABC News team a totally biased group of supposed moderators.

00:29:48.560 They knew exactly what they were doing.

00:29:50.160 And even in that setting, Kamala Harris couldn't seal the deal, couldn't get it done.

00:29:54.460 The idea that they would put her up in front of Brett Baer from Fox News or any unbiased moderator, even the CNN team, you know, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash or whoever,

00:30:04.780 they're just not going to do it because they can't take that risk. 0.99

00:30:08.880 Yeah, I think ABC, David Muir is a total, the guy's a total loser. 0.93

00:30:12.980 I mean, to fact check President Trump seven times, the abortion thing, he went after, they wanted to stick on abortion for 20 minutes 0.97

00:30:20.720 because abortion historically makes Republicans look bad because they don't explain it.

00:30:25.040 I think President Trump explained it the best any Republican has ever explained it for all 67 million Americans tuning in and watching,

00:30:32.340 even the non-Americans tuning in and watching.

00:30:35.360 But David Muir was so quick to fact check him about, you know, no baby ever being aborted alive.

00:30:40.460 Well, just the news is John Solomon put out a report the next day that in Tim Walz's state of Minnesota in 2025, babies were born and aborted.

00:30:49.860 Yeah. So this guy was so quick to fact check it, an absolute know nothing.

00:30:54.120 I mean, it made sense that he was on Kamala's team because she's another know nothing.

00:30:57.840 Everything she said was rehearsed and totally fraudulent.

00:31:00.960 I want to wrap up with too big to rig.

00:31:04.340 A new report out in Wisconsin says that 140,000 Wisconsinites can vote through a voter ID loophole in 2024 through a mail-in ballot.

00:31:13.520 Pretty much they don't have to identify or give anything.

00:31:15.940 They can request a mail-in ballot.

00:31:17.460 But Joe Biden won Wisconsin by 20,000 votes in 2020.

00:31:22.080 I mean, we're going to see this in states now all across, whether it be Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania.

00:31:28.080 But we have to remember in the back of our mind how President Trump's indictments all came in the first place.

00:31:32.760 He challenged a rigged 2020 election.

00:31:36.120 Merrick Garland last week comes out and says, you know, should you come out and challenge this election and speak out?

00:31:43.280 Go look at those January Sixers who are sitting there pretty much rotting in jail because that's going to be you. 1.00

00:31:50.660 What are we supposed to do if there are abnormalities in the election?

00:31:54.300 Will, you as an attorney, you look at what happened to guys like Rudy Giuliani,

00:31:57.520 other lawyers across the spectrum who have been disbarred, taking everything taken from them, paying millions of dollars to defend themselves.

00:32:08.680 What are you supposed to do in a situation where if we see in 2024 there are abnormalities, there is rigging, there is theft.

00:32:16.700 What are we supposed to do as American citizens?

00:32:18.820 What are we supposed to do in your case as attorneys?

00:32:20.880 Yeah, well, look, first, the key thing is we need to win.

00:32:24.300 So if you think historically, you know, throughout American history, there's always been some voter fraud.

00:32:29.560 In 2020, they used the COVID crisis, the manufactured COVID crisis to basically throw the doors wide open

00:32:37.180 and to fundamentally corrupt the way that we do voting and the way that we do election integrity in this country.

00:32:43.060 Now, we're not in 2020 anymore.

00:32:45.600 We're in 2024.

00:32:47.100 The Dems are going to do everything they can to steal this thing.

00:32:49.820 They're going to use mail-in voting to the extent they can.

00:32:52.820 They're going to try to pollute the voter rolls. 0.63

00:32:55.100 They're going to pull all the same tricks that they pulled in 2020, except without COVID, they're not going to be quite as effective.

00:33:02.200 So if the quantum of fraud throughout American history has, let's say, been 1%, and if in 2020 it was instead 5%, now we're back down to like 2% or 3%.

00:33:12.700 The way that we win is by turning out every voter that we turned out in 2020.

00:33:18.880 If all 74 million people who voted for President Trump in 2020 come back out and vote for him again, plus new younger voters who are coming into the party, plus whoever else, we're going to win in a landslide.

00:33:29.840 What we can't allow to happen is for people to get so dispirited by everything that you're talking about, by all the stories coming out about election rigging.

00:33:38.720 We can't allow ourselves to be demoralized by what we know the left's bag of tricks are, because the way that we will win is by making this too big to rig.

00:33:49.140 I think President Trump's exactly right on that point.

00:33:51.980 We need to bank every single vote we can.

00:33:54.940 That's how we'll beat the quantum of fraud.

00:33:56.860 That's how we'll beat the Democrats' fraudulent margins.

00:33:59.700 And that's how we'll put President Trump back in the White House.

00:34:02.440 In terms of me personally, you know, I know John Eastman.

00:34:06.180 I know Jeff Clark.

00:34:07.600 I've met Mayor Giuliani before.

00:34:09.860 I mean, the left is willing to run roughshod over anybody and everybody willing to stand up.

00:34:16.080 Those are the stakes that you take on yourself when you agree to do things like what my team and I are doing in representing President Trump.

00:34:23.780 We know that there are risks involved.

00:34:26.340 And I think for a lot of Americans, there are risks involved in being active in the political arena.

00:34:31.920 But again, the way that the left will win is if they intimidate us and bully us out of the arena.

00:34:38.900 If they make us so scared of what they're going to do to us that we stop fighting, then there's not going to be a fight at all.

00:34:46.860 So to me, it's a calling.

00:34:48.820 It's important that we do this.

00:34:50.240 We all understand that there are risks involved.

00:34:52.940 But the alternative isn't riskless.

00:34:55.700 Turning over this country to the radical left isn't going to leave any of us safer.

00:35:00.220 It's not going to leave any of us more secure in our own lives.

00:35:03.360 It's just going to destroy the greatest country that God ever placed on this earth

00:35:07.000 and leave us with nowhere to flee to.

00:35:09.620 You know, you mentioned the Venezuelan opposition candidates who constantly seem to flee to America or flee to other countries.

00:35:17.200 We don't have anywhere else to go to.

00:35:19.340 If America falls, this is the last best hope for humanity on planet Earth.

00:35:23.540 If America falls, we don't have anywhere to flee to.

00:35:26.040 I've heard Cuban exiles say that.

00:35:27.920 I've heard people who have fled communist dictatorships say that.

00:35:30.720 We need to fight for America because there's not much else worth fighting for in this world.

00:35:35.860 Yeah, you're right.

00:35:36.780 And you know what?

00:35:37.280 It's so disheartening to think, why can't it?

00:35:40.700 You say 2%, 1%.

00:35:42.240 Why can't it be 0%?

00:35:44.340 I mean, the fact that we're, you know, OK, it's like owning a restaurant and saying, well, my employees are only stealing 100 bucks a week from me or 200 bucks a week.

00:35:55.060 They shouldn't be stealing anything.

00:35:56.440 You know, it's so sad, and I'm not saying it to you.

00:35:59.580 I'm saying that this is where we're at in America right now, and it's sad.

00:36:03.260 The other thing that's sad is, you know, you presumably have a wife and a family that you have to feed.

00:36:07.280 And for you to think in the back of your mind that you have to contemplate, if I do this, here's the consequences, but I have to do it to save my country.

00:36:16.260 I mean, it's really sickening to think that this is where we've come to in America, that, you know, we have to worry about what we say and worry about what we do to save this country.

00:36:24.340 Will, you got the last word here.

00:36:25.480 Yeah, well, I actually don't have a wife and kids, but most of my colleagues do.

00:36:29.800 It's something that's front of mind constantly.

00:36:32.560 And when you see what the left has done to so many good conservatives who have been willing to stand up, it's really scary stuff.

00:36:38.880 The only way it's going to get better, though, is if we win, is if we defeat these radical attempts to fundamentally reshape America.

00:36:47.000 And if we restore the constitutional order that our founders set up, that's what we all need to be fighting for.

00:36:52.280 That's what the fight's all about.

00:36:53.620 And hopefully, please, God, in November, we will start a new American resurgence that will truly make this country great again.

00:37:00.700 Will Sharp, you're a great American.

00:37:02.040 Thanks for everything you're doing for President Trump.

00:37:03.740 And thanks for everything you're doing for this country.

00:37:05.760 Great to be with you.

00:37:06.620 Thanks, everybody, for being with us today.

00:37:08.100 Please be sure to join us back here tomorrow for The Great America Show as our quest for truth, justice, and the American way continues.

00:37:13.260 Please be sure to follow me on Twitter at JohnFawcettNY, that's JohnFawcettNY, and on Truth Social at John Fawcett.

00:37:20.300 Shoot me a tweet.

00:37:20.960 Let me know what you want to hear more of on this show.

00:37:22.540 You could also email us at info at LewDobbs.com.

00:37:25.540 We'll see you back here tomorrow.

00:37:26.840 May God bless you.

00:37:27.720 May God bless America.

00:37:29.080 And may God bless the great Lew Dobbs.

The Great America Show - September 13, 2024

LAWFARE AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP CONTINUES TO BACKFIRE ON DEMS

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript