MARINE TALKS AFGHAN TRUTH; MCCLOSKEY VS MARXISTS
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Summary
Biden's approval numbers have fallen dramatically since this past summer, when he ordered a hasty and chaotic withdrawal of all our troops in Afghanistan. And some say he can never recover in the polls after that dismal handling of the withdrawal, and particularly the August Taliban attacks on the Kabul airport that resulted in the deaths of 12 of our Marines and a Navy corpsman.
Transcript
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs,
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always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
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And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
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Welcome to the Great America show, and we thank you for being with us, as always.
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President Biden's presidency has been plagued by misstatements, misjudgments,
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maladroit handling of almost every issue and challenges that are faced by this nation.
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From a devastating pandemic that claimed more of American lives in Biden's first year in office
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than in President Trump's last year in office, and from Russia's very real threat to invade Ukraine
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to Xi Jinping's very real takeover of Hong Kong and aggression in the South China Sea.
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China's threats to invade Taiwan persist, and insults are being hurled at the United States
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almost weekly, and they go without response from the Biden administration.
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Biden's approval numbers have fallen dramatically since this past summer,
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a summer in which he ordered a hasty and chaotic withdrawal of all our troops in Afghanistan.
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And some say he can never recover in the polls after that dismal handling of the withdrawal,
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and particularly the August Taliban attacks on the Kabul airport that resulted in the deaths
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The Pentagon may not soon recover either from the backlash that followed the disastrous withdrawal
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and the loss of American lives seemingly so needlessly.
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The White House and Pentagon tried to manage, of course, the public outcry.
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The public outrage, however, overwhelmed the Biden damage control efforts.
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But one Marine officer publicly called for those in command to be held accountable.
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Marine Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller called out his superiors for their failure in organizing
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and implementing the Afghan withdrawal and their failure to take responsibility for their failure
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We're proud to say Colonel Scheller joins us here today on The Great America Show,
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and we welcome a man who stood up for his principles and the nations suffering immensely for doing so.
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Stuart Scheller, delighted to have you with us here on the broadcast, and welcome.
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I've listened to The Great American Show before, and I know you have a strong followership,
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so I'm just happy to be a part of it and get to discuss some things that I think are very important
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and that all Americans should be talking about and thinking about.
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And when I say I'm proud to have you with us, I mean exactly that.
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I'm proud of you and what you stand for and the guts it took to stand for the principles that you expressed.
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I think a lot of people don't understand often that people who speak truth to power,
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who seek truth and are principled in their lives,
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are usually people who have the character to know that there will be consequences,
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Give us all here a sense of how you felt that August when we saw so much chaos,
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the U.S. military obviously botching the withdrawal,
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and your feelings as a Marine officer responsible for the lives and the conduct
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What went through your mind and heart as you watched?
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And at the time where Afghanistan was really unraveling quickly,
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I was a battalion commander at a place called Advanced Infantry Training Battalion
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Previous to that, I was a regimental operations officer.
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So I was trans-manning and equipping the unit that ultimately responded,
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So I was intimately familiar with all the people,
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And I was also a member as a young lieutenant in 1-8.
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So the unit that responded just had a lot of crossroads
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And then obviously, having just served downrange in Afghanistan,
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running and gunning, it was also very personal for me based on my experiences.
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So as I was watching it unfold every day in the media and on social media,
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Not only have I served, but this is something I've thought about extensively.
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My thesis was on how to make foreign diplomacy more effective.
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This is something that I have thought about, that I have lived, that I have experienced.
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And so as I was watching it, I was just thinking about all the mistakes, the missteps,
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And then on 18 August, the commandant of the Marine Corps put out a white letter,
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which is essentially a formal correspondence to the whole Marine Corps,
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where he was addressing all the military members that were getting upset in the fallout of Afghanistan.
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And he just said, you know, what you did was worth it.
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But if you're having problems, go see a therapist.
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And that letter really frustrated me because over the last 20 years, we've won every tactical battle.
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So if you really study this, you know, if you go back to Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan,
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We're losing at the operational level, which is the combatant command level,
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which is the four-star general level connected to the National Security Council and the political level.
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So for the general to put out a letter trying to say, hey, your sacrifices were worth it
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without addressing the failures of the leadership.
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I mean, if he would have addressed the failures of the leadership, the Marines could have avoided
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And so I was mad when he put out that letter and then came 26 August when the attack happened
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And I just got to a point where I knew addressing it within the system wasn't going to have the
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My senior leaders either didn't understand or were just being very negligent.
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And so I made a YouTube video that I posted essentially addressing just that,
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And I didn't, I made it at work that day of the attack,
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but I understood full well what it meant for my career.
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I drove home and I actually paced in front of my house, like thinking, do I post this?
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Because I knew once I did and if it took off that I was most likely going to be relieved
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in all my suffering and sacrifices and work up to that point in my career,
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which had been very successful up to that point, was going to come off the rails.
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And a lot of people through this ordeal have pointed out how it wasn't my place to speak up.
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But the truth is there's no one else speaking up.
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Like, you know, we're already on to focusing on China and trying to fix the, you know,
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The Commandant is trying to mature the force, focus on distributed operations.
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Again, the tactical level is successful every single time.
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No one is focusing on how to fix the operational slash strategic level where we are consistently
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And it starts with accountability of senior leaders.
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And on that day that you're pacing in front of your residence, were you afraid you might
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not the next day make that posting of that video?
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I mean, if you go back and watch it, I even say in the video, if I have the courage to post
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Because I mean, what I thought was going to happen was when I posted that video, an investigation
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would take place and then they would relieve me after the investigation.
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But what happened was they pulled me in and just relieved me immediately with no investigation.
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But I still at that point didn't plan on making any other statements.
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But then all these previous bosses of mine started getting on my social media and attacking
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me personally and saying if I had any honor, I would resign.
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And so it became one of these situations where I thought it was just going to be that first
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But then when the system attacks me, it's like when you're in a fight, when somebody
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starts pushing you, I had a choice where I could just kind of go in the fetal position
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And I felt like what I was saying was important enough.
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And I believed in it fully that when when the system started attacking me, I just started
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And it became this escalating series of them imposing sanctions, gag orders, threats, mental
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health evaluations that, you know, it ultimately culminated with me in jail and going to court
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Were you shocked when you found out you're you're on your way to the brig?
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You know, I every time I posted something, I thought through what the command would do.
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And there was if the post, the final post I made before I went into the brig, I wrote
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And then I went on to point out things that, you know, no one was talking about, but were
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So, like, obviously, I had thought through there was a good chance they would send me to
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But I also had read the manual for court marshal in the UCMJ before I made that post to see
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what requirements were necessary to put me in the brig.
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And one of them is you have to be a flight risk.
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And so I thought they're going to have a hard time putting me in the brig, justifying that
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And so I was kind of I didn't I didn't know how they were going to play it.
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And ultimately, they sent me to the brig and they wrote on the documentation that I was
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I mean, I literally showed up that Monday morning at zero eight after I said, I'll be
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And so they had to cut some corners and basically just say factually incorrect things to justify
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And the other thing is, you're not supposed to go to jail for a special court martial.
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There is no pretrial for a special court martial.
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So like in all respects, it was, in my opinion, illegal, which goes back to I could have fought
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And I think I probably could have got off because of how incorrectly they played it.
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But the other part of it was I was in certain respects trying to bait them to send me to jail
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to just consistently illustrate the hypocrisy of the system.
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You know, they sent me to jail or they relieved me without an investigation.
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General McKenzie killed civilians, children, bringing water to needy people.
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And then following the investigation, they said, yeah, that was a pretty bad mistake,
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Whereas me, I demand accountability and we're not even going to have an investigation.
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We're just going to relieve me immediately and then throw me in the brig.
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So a lot of the things I was doing after the fact were just to keep illustrating and keep
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the news cycle going that like, hey, this is broken, guys.
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Those who are listening to you right now may wonder about this word accountability
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and they may wonder about the command structure.
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But when you're talking about wars fought and lost, I'm using the word advisedly, whether
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it's Afghanistan, whether it's Iraq, we go back to the Persian Gulf War, where that was
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decidedly a victory for the United States and our troops.
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But these wars that we are fighting as police actions in which we have lost precious lives
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of our service members, left in this last instance, billions, tens of billions of dollars
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of equipment at the order of the commander in chief, just left it for the Taliban and other
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This is without explanation from the Pentagon, without rationalization.
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And we know that right now the United States military is in deep, deep trouble and there's
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And they're trying to sweep your comments under the rug as quickly as they can, whether by ignoring
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But we know this, our generals, our admirals, the military leadership and the civilian leadership
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over the United States military is in desperate, desperate trouble.
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And that means this nation is in desperate trouble.
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Most Americans don't understand how foreign diplomacy works and how the different departments
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So if you take the Department of Defense, they divide it up into combatant commands.
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If you take the Department of State, they divide it up into different regions that aren't even
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So each agency within the government divides up the globe into regions.
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And then in those regions, you have regional commanders.
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And so in the military, CENTCOM, combatant command is General McKenzie.
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And he's given a lot of reasons for people to dislike him and to question his honor and
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But quite honestly, General Milley had nothing to do with Afghanistan.
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General McKenzie works straight for the Secretary of Defense who works for the president.
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And so how this works is the CENTCOM combatant commander develops plans.
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So he has what they call operational planners that give him a bunch of courses of action,
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COAs, to say, here's the different ways that we can do this.
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And I know that those planners gave him a bunch of options to maintain Bagram Air Base,
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And so then General McKenzie takes all these plans and he goes to the National Security
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Council and he goes to the Secretary of Defense and he presents these plans.
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Well, I know that President Biden came back and said, no, we're not going to keep Bagram
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So just wave off of Bagram, pull chalks, and we'll fall back to Kabul, right?
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First, any good staff officer knows that they have to convince their boss why their plan is
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And so in my opinion, General McKenzie had an obligation to convince them why keeping Bagram
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Now the president has said, here's the resources and restraints for you to execute.
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A lot of people say general officers shouldn't resign because that becomes political and
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the military, rightfully so, wants to remain apolitical.
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And if we have senior general officers that are just resigning all the time because they
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don't like the resources or the ideas or the orders of the president, then it becomes
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the appearance, at least, of a political nature.
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If it's inculcated values within the military that you don't resign because you appear political,
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my God, everybody knows that the military is now political because of Milley, because of
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what we have witnessed, because of what the direct command from the commander-in-chief disregarding
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the entire military, you know, you just go through this.
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You mentioned the layover, the overlays for intelligence, for defense, the State Department,
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We've just witnessed three intelligence agencies work with the so-called interagency to carry
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out a fraud impeachment against a president of the United States.
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We've just watched, in terms of the military, absolute silence on the part of FBI agents who
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knew that they were framing a three-star general, for crying out loud, and I'm referring to General
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Flan in the White House in the early days, because there is this culture of where we don't speak up,
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We are inert, and basically, we just do what we're told, because everything beyond doing what
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I mean, my God, what kind of mindlessness is this that has besotted our public servants
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in both the State Department, the Pentagon, our intelligence agencies, our law enforcement
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So I agree with you, obviously, through my actions demonstrate that.
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I said, hey, this is something that is wrong, and I resigned.
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But, you know, so General McKenzie didn't do that, and he's got a lot of people up there
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Once he accepted the resources of the plan and said, okay, I'm going to execute this and
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not resign, he is now 100% responsible for that plan.
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He doesn't, after the fact, then get to say, no, I gave the president other options, and
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he decided he didn't want them, so I'm not accountable.
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But once you don't do those things, then you're accountable, General McKenzie.
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And so he took this plan, and he did not execute it well, right?
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I know a lot of guys in the Marine Corps that think very highly of him.
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He just massively underestimated the speed with which the Taliban would advance.
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And we left all that gear not because we deliberately wanted to leave the gear.
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It's because we were in a panicked state, and we had to get out of there.
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You know, we leave a lot of gear in countries, and it ultimately comes down to, is it more
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expensive to ship it back to the United States or to just blow it up, right?
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And so there are some deliberate calculations that are made in terms of leaving gear, but
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And if you watch General McKenzie's testimony after the fact, he said, well, there's still
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hundreds of Americans left in Afghanistan, but this is a Department of State endeavor
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And the Department of Defense's plans and execution is complete.
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And then I watched Secretary Blinken testify in front of Congress, and he said, I didn't
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How does the Department of Defense leave when there's hundreds of Americans and say, now
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And then the Secretary of State's like, yeah, I didn't have a plan.
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Like, I just, it like makes me want to put my head through a wall.
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Well, take good care of that head, because it's working very well for the country in
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I have to tell you, of all the pain and blood and death that Afghanistan represents for
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To have one Marine Corps officer stand up and say, I can't stomach the hypocrisy, the
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lack of principle, the lack of character, judgment, and honor on the part of the command
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It's not just the Marine Corps you're talking about.
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I know you must've, but you talk about one man standing against the tide.
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Uh, I, there is no analog for Lieutenant Colonel Stu Scheller.
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I, you know, I really believe that once I spoke out more of my peers would be vocal, at least
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in, you know, they didn't need to do everything I did, but acknowledge the content of my statements
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publicly and say, you know what, he's, what he's saying is correct.
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And just nobody even had the courage to do that.
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I mean, they personally attacked me in investigation.
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I mean, they sent me to a command directed mental health evaluation when, you know, Lou, I missed
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the birth of my first child on a combat deployment in Afghanistan, right?
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They didn't make me get a mental health evaluation after that.
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It didn't make me get a mental health evaluation when I missed the funeral of like every living
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grandparent, or, you know, I could go on and on with examples like this.
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The only time they made me get a mental health evaluation is when I spoke out against everything
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you just described, the hypocrisy, ineptitude, inability to see the bigger picture.
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And so that's, yeah, it was very heartbreaking in a lot of ways.
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And when you think about how many moral courage classes, case studies, things we do, and most
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people admit that the content of what I said is correct, but just none of them had the courage
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And so, and I get it, there is a lot, I mean, the military came out and made an order that
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if anyone supported my social media, it was punishable, right?
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And I still had a lot of, a lot of military members supporting my social media, even despite
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that order, you know, I think the military kind of backed away from that because they
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realized how the public opinion was, was going, but.
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Well, the public opinion right now of the United States military.
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It hasn't been, it hasn't been lower, uh, since, well, since really Vietnam.
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Uh, it, it, it's, we've had one element of our government that was prized and that was the
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military and what they've done to politicize, whether it's CRT, whether it is this wokeness
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that these, uh, idiots, uh, who claim their leaders are, are, uh, you know, indoctrinating
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And then Afghanistan, the loss of life, the loss of purpose, the, you know, you can say
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what you want to, but this, this is a terrible moment in American history where we fought,
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uh, countries that are, you said that we've won tactically.
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Uh, there are those who say that all war is tactical.
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Uh, and for anyone who's ever been in the trenches, that's exactly what it is.
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But to think that this country isn't strong enough in its military academies and its, uh,
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officer training to say, what does failure look like?
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Because every one of those generals is responsible for the failure and to suggest we will not,
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I mean, it's like, uh, 400% more generals now than we had with 12 million Americans fighting
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It is not a military with leaders saying, this is the national purpose.
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This is the, the objective and the mission, and we will accomplishment when instead we have
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a general, a four-star general writing war doctrine called the long war.
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I mean, it's idiotic, rationalizing failure as doctrine as doctrinal, uh, make it long persist,
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Um, so I'll start with the public opinion degrading.
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I think quite honestly, the lionizing of the generals and the over appreciation has not
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allowed criticism of the military, which we are in desperate need of.
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I think people need to be very critical and have open conversations because just part of
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the problem is the American people is afraid to criticize it because then it seems they're
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Congress, when the fallout of Afghanistan happened, took turns giving soundbites of
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The Congress's influence over the DOD is the budget.
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And what wasn't in the news was six days previous to all their, you know, soundbites of anger.
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They all unanimously approved one of the biggest budgets.
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Not one of them had the courage to stand against the budget and say, show me metrics of effectiveness
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Because then that would have appeared anti-military and it would have gone against their self-preservation
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And so people need to be able to criticize the military.
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Congress needs to be able to criticize the military because quite honestly, it's wildly
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And as you pointed out, we have just a ton of general officers.
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If you go back and look at the amount of general officers that were fired in World War
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II, we'd have to pull the stats, but, you know, just as a point of an example, I would
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submit almost as many general officers were fired in World War II than they have in all
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I have never, I've never heard it brought up before and I've never thought about it
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There's a book called the generals written by Rick Scott and it goes into depth on this.
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And the bottom line is people in World War II were fired all the time and not even just
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fired, but we're just benched and not even given a chance to command based on different
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things that they did differently in World War II.
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And somehow after that, we got away from that in Vietnam is a perfect example.
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The, the case study for moral courage that the military uses almost consistently is
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My Lai in the, in Vietnam, there was an incident in My Lai where a young lieutenant went through
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with this platoon and basically just massacred a small village of women and children.
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And some helicopter pilot, a chief warrant officer flies down and stops this.
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And so it's celebrating the chief warrant officer having the moral courage.
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And what they don't talk about in that case study is that the lieutenant and the captain
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were held accountable, but there was no general officer.
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You know, there was no colonel that was fired for essentially a massacre of a village and
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And so there's a perfect example of like, we talk about moral courage, like why weren't
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You know, and you can, I can give a million examples.
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And so now you're, you also brought up the long war.
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Another problem I have is the theory of counterinsurgency.
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That's made so many of our generals lionized, popular celebrities.
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I mean, Mattis, McChrystal, Petraeus, I mean, go down the list.
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Quite honestly, we're failing at the operational strategic level because we're getting caught
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The way you win a war is to not get caught in an insurgency, right?
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If you get in yourself into an insurgency, now you got to break out the small war wars manual
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and understand counterinsurgency, but these guys like Mattis, who people just think are
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I mean, the guy never saw combat until he was in 06, right?
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And then, and then he becomes this counterinsurgency guru, but we didn't win those counterinsurgencies.
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And when he was the secretary of defense and he publicly resigned over President Trump's
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policies in Syria, that ISIS threat was a product of the failed war in which Mattis got
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And so all it seems right now is we have this generation of generals, like we don't have
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And it goes back to your point about the bureaucracy of it.
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Like we have to have certain celebrities and we want to like lionize the military members,
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We need to look at like, let's check the record.
00:29:06.780
You know, like what are your actual experiences?
00:29:10.160
And we just don't seem to have that in my generation that I saw.
00:29:13.200
Well, Colonel, we're, uh, we're indebted to you, as I said, for your character and for
00:29:20.140
your actions and, uh, deep respect, uh, for all that you've done and have endured.
00:29:27.480
Uh, I think that the audience of, uh, of this show would certainly like to know what you're
00:29:33.840
going to be doing, uh, and where they can, uh, help in any way, because each of us is
00:29:40.340
invested, uh, in truth, which you represent and, uh, in this great nation, uh, uh, which
00:29:48.700
is represented by that uniform that you had to, uh, let go of, uh, you know, I tell us
00:29:56.800
what, which what's next for you and what we can do.
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I, when I started this, everyone was speculating that it was political motivations and this was
00:30:14.040
Um, but I, I am, like I said, I wrote my master's thesis on foreign diplomacy.
00:30:21.420
I will probably pursue politics, but I just right now, this ordeal.
00:30:26.800
Has just taken such a physical, mental, spiritual toll on me that I don't see myself doing
00:30:31.860
anything, at least in this 22 cycle personally.
00:30:34.180
So what I did, I was on a gag border for three months.
00:30:36.540
I put together a coalition of veteran candidates.
00:30:39.640
My bumper sticker on how I want to make changes.
00:30:45.000
When that story I told about Congress, not standing against the DOD budget to me is a
00:30:48.700
symptom that people aren't doing the hard things.
00:30:51.000
They're doing what is in the best interest of public support at that moment.
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And I think veteran candidates, oftentimes who have experience in foreign diplomacy and
00:31:01.060
have experience in leadership might be able to do some of the things that I don't see
00:31:05.680
So I've got, I put together five veteran Senate candidates and 20 congressional candidates,
00:31:11.760
And for lack of a better term, I'm basically just like the, the guy in the shadows, bringing
00:31:17.480
the group together and providing them access to political action committees, to media,
00:31:23.720
to different ways to bring attention to their, their group.
00:31:26.820
We have a website for them and that's votesforvets.org.
00:31:30.660
And so in the, in the next couple of months, or at least through November, I'll probably be
00:31:35.180
on the campaign trail, helping some of those candidates.
00:31:37.420
Cause I'd like to see out of that group of 25 that I got at least five votes.
00:31:41.200
And I think that'll be a good start to accomplish some of the things that I want to, uh, in
00:31:50.100
If you want to see my personal political views, you can go to my website.
00:31:52.800
So my personal website is authentic americans.com.
00:31:56.420
And ultimately my pitch there is, I think that the extreme right and the extreme left, um,
00:32:06.660
And so, you know, we're never as Americans all going to agree on something, but if I
00:32:10.620
could put a divide between those extremes, I think quite honestly, the center right and
00:32:15.220
the center left may even have more in common than those extremes of, of each political
00:32:19.960
I'm a conservative, uh, you know, by trade, I was going to my local GOP meetings before
00:32:24.500
this, but I still have a lot in common with like a, a democratic congressional candidate
00:32:30.160
or, uh, I'm sorry, rep no longer rep, but Tulsi Gabbard made some comments about
00:32:34.720
accountability in the government and the military.
00:32:37.360
And so like, there's someone who I have maybe a lot of differences in, but I still can look
00:32:42.160
And so I'll probably run, uh, in for some political office in 24, support my candidates
00:32:49.660
Um, and you can check out my website at authentic americans.com authentic americans.com.
00:32:59.780
We wish you all the very best, uh, Stuart Scheller jr.
00:33:05.280
Uh, it sounds like you're going to have an interesting, uh, another interesting period
00:33:10.940
I look forward to talking with you again and keep us posted and, uh, come back soon.
00:33:20.720
And stay the, stay the hell out of those shadows.
00:33:23.140
We kind of like having, we like you haven't been out in the light.
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I mean, he's a tremendous, tremendous American.
00:33:34.380
I, I just think there's just, uh, you know, what can I say?
00:33:46.240
It was, and soon the great America show continues in one moment.
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With all that's going on in this country, we thought it would be interesting and important
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to talk with a man who's in the midst of our political and cultural battles for the
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Our guest is running for the U S Senate and the great state of Missouri.
00:34:11.620
He's an attorney and honors graduate of Southern Methodist university and earned his law degree
00:34:18.380
He's a lifelong Republican, but this is the first time that he's run for political office.
00:34:24.720
You've probably seen what are now iconic photos of Mark and his wife, Patty from the summer
00:34:30.620
of protests, riots, and violence in streets all across the country in 2020.
00:34:36.380
Those photos show the McCloskey's as they stood proudly and defiantly in their front yard in
00:34:43.220
St. Louis with Mark's rifle and Patty's pistol at the ready while black lives matter protesters
00:34:49.780
marched along the street in front of their home with us today on the great America show to talk
00:34:56.180
about those days and the future that he intends to influence is Mark McCloskey, great American
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Republican candidate for the U S Senate, Mark, a pleasure and an honor to have you with us
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We are, uh, you know, I think the whole country was galvanized by those pictures of you and
00:35:20.900
your wife, uh, as you, as you stood there, uh, at the ready to protect your home.
00:35:29.720
Did you have any idea of the, I'll call it a bruja, uh, a protest and all of it, of course,
00:35:37.240
manufactured by the left, uh, that would follow, uh, your just simple statement that, uh, your
00:35:47.360
Well, you know, when, uh, when the crowd started to dwindle away and the, the, the threats and
00:35:53.680
the, uh, and the shouts and the threats of death and rape and arson were dwindling down
00:35:58.180
and I was facing a sea of cell phone, I said, you know, I suspect this isn't going to end
00:36:05.640
Well, uh, your, uh, your deductive reasoning on that, as I would expect of an attorney of
00:36:13.440
Uh, and it's, it's such a shame because in every way you were within your rights, uh, and
00:36:21.140
what followed were, uh, you know, legal, uh, troubles.
00:36:24.140
You were the target of the, of what I call the Marxist left in this country of whether
00:36:29.220
they're local or state or, or, or federal, uh, political operatives, uh, give us a sense
00:36:36.380
of what, uh, what that was like, uh, in terms of your legal, uh, travail, uh, that you had
00:36:44.720
Well, you know, and then let me give you a little bit of background too, because the, uh,
00:36:48.520
the, the mainstream media narrative that these were peaceful, social justice protesters walking
00:36:53.640
calmly past my house on the way to the mayor's house is, is all complete, uh, you know, uh,
00:37:01.280
You gotta, you gotta appreciate that in the city of St. Louis, the, the background level
00:37:07.100
People that live in the civilized world probably can't imagine it, but we've always been the
00:37:12.300
But then you have to add to that, the George Floyd effect.
00:37:15.400
And on the night of June, the 1st, June, the 2nd of 2020, uh, the, the, the people that
00:37:20.960
are the champions of, of social justice and diversity and inclusion decided the best way
00:37:26.200
to show their love for St. Louis was by burning it down.
00:37:31.840
They shot four police officers at night, killed a retired police captain, David Dorn, burned
00:37:37.880
the 7-11 to the ground, two blocks from the police headquarters in St. Louis.
00:37:42.880
And we watched that in a live helicopter feed for 30 or 40 minutes, not a single policeman
00:37:50.760
And my wife, Patty and I looked at each other and said, you know, when the fit hits the sham,
00:37:54.880
you're out here and you're absolutely wild lonesome.
00:37:57.500
And during the ensuing month, uh, more and more businesses in our neighborhood got boarded
00:38:08.900
And one of the benefits for the, for the criminals of living in a Democrat controlled city for
00:38:14.920
seven decades is there's no repercussions for crime.
00:38:18.080
And so the, uh, this Antifa organization, by the way, headed by a young lady named Cori Bush,
00:38:23.480
uh, felt that they could publish the time and location of their, of their mob actions ahead
00:38:29.480
of time and had published that they're going to have a mob action in our neighborhood on
00:38:35.660
So we put out fire extinguishers around the house and set out guns.
00:38:43.380
Then it happened on that Sunday evening when we were out just trying to have dinner, but
00:38:46.960
we just made a decision that we weren't going to take it.
00:38:49.620
We were not going to let it happen in our neighborhood.
00:38:53.520
The street and the sidewalk in front of my house are as private as, as your living room.
00:38:57.520
Um, and when they crashed through that gate and destroyed it, the first thing I did was
00:39:01.360
I stood out on the edge of the porch and said the two most racist white supremacist words
00:39:06.820
known in the English language, I said, private property and being communist that pissed them
00:39:13.600
Um, and, and they started storming in more and more.
00:39:17.640
And so my wife and daughter, she was 31 at the time, uh, went in the house to call 911.
00:39:23.160
I reached around the corner where I had my AR stash and pulled it out and stood out there.
00:39:28.260
And, uh, you know, then all of a sudden I see my wife come out in the grass in front
00:39:32.900
of me, you know, just feet from the mob, which is now screaming death threats and arson and
00:39:37.520
everything else waving that, that, that, you know, dumb little Bryco pistol over her head.
00:39:42.940
And now I've got a problem because I don't have a clean line of fire.
00:39:45.800
I didn't, you know, now I have to get out there in the grass.
00:39:47.860
So that's when, uh, that's when those iconic pictures get taken, but, uh, here's, you know,
00:39:53.580
then I want to, I do want to compliment you right here for having the courage to stand
00:40:02.720
Uh, and what is right, uh, for all Americans to defend your property, to defend your home,
00:40:12.040
I mean, shame on anybody who would expect anyone, any citizen to do otherwise.
00:40:24.240
No, I mean, the, the American people have been trained to be sheep and I apologize for
00:40:28.560
saying that to your listening audience, but, uh, you know, I wouldn't, our, our picture
00:40:34.440
would not have had great notoriety if that were the norm and not the exception to stand
00:40:41.040
Um, but you know, we've been punished thoroughly for it and are continuing to be punished for
00:40:45.960
Uh, our George Soros funded circuit attorney charged my wife and I with two classy felonies,
00:40:52.120
which would have cost us four years in the slammer and our law licenses and our careers
00:40:58.040
Um, but fortunately for us, uh, she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and had used
00:41:04.520
us in her political propaganda for fundraising.
00:41:07.400
And that gave us an opportunity to, uh, ask the court to disqualify her and the entire,
00:41:12.920
uh, circuit attorney's office from prosecuting us.
00:41:15.880
We got a, uh, a special prosecutor appointed who, despite the fact that he had been a Barack
00:41:21.740
Obama U S attorney for eight years, was a reasonable and fair guy.
00:41:25.640
He dismissed the felony charges, but then he read me this charge in court.
00:41:31.440
And he said that I had the class C misdemeanor.
00:41:34.540
He charged me with said that I purposely placed other people in apprehension of immediate physical
00:41:44.380
If that's a, if that's a crime in Missouri, I did it and I'll do it again.
00:41:49.140
And the judge who'd been a friend of mine for 30 some years, um, uh, looks down off the
00:41:54.440
bench at me and says, now, Mr. McCloskey, did you do those things?
00:42:02.420
But you know, there were the, then, uh, the, uh, governor Parson, Mike Parson had promised
00:42:14.180
And then we then get a, uh, uh, petition filed against us by the chief disciplinary officer
00:42:22.520
for the Missouri Bar Association, asking the Supreme court to suspend our law licenses
00:42:27.800
indefinitely, because in standing on our front porch and defending ourselves against a mob
00:42:33.900
of hundreds threatening to kill us, we were acting in moral turpitude and aren't morally
00:42:43.920
Tell us a little bit more about your bar association then, uh, because anyone who has such a corrupt
00:42:51.240
soul, we all need to know more about him or her.
00:42:55.340
Well, the, uh, the, it's been, I can't tell you how many years now, but we've got a woke
00:43:00.560
bar association like everywhere now, I guess we, you know, you have to take a certain number
00:43:04.920
of continuing legal education courses every year to maintain your license for some years.
00:43:10.360
Now we've been required to take diversity and inclusion of propaganda as part of our
00:43:19.260
And we have to sit through these lectures where people tell us how evil it is to be white
00:43:23.660
and how privileged it is and how we have to, uh, we have to treat people differently by
00:43:31.720
And, you know, the nonsense of that is so comprehensive and so obvious that it would take
00:43:37.400
the, uh, entire force of the federal government and the mainstream media to convince people that
00:43:45.680
And, uh, I said at the time that our, our bar association was too woke to let this go.
00:43:54.240
But I, I think in the real world, this is just part of what AOC announced, uh, a year
00:43:59.600
ago, last November, and that's a Trump accountability project that everybody worked, everybody who
00:44:04.740
worked for the Trump campaign or in the Trump administration was going to be harassed for
00:44:11.300
It is really, uh, incredible, uh, that anyone has to put up with this.
00:44:17.680
Uh, and, and I guess the fact of the matter is they do have to put up with it if they're
00:44:22.240
going to be in the public arena and you've made it for, for most politicians, that's a,
00:44:30.040
They've been there and the wokeness and the leftist, the deal Marxist, uh, initiatives are
00:44:36.840
new circumstances, but you, you have made the decision knowing full well, what the political
00:44:43.920
arena was, the, the dangers, they, uh, what you would must endure.
00:44:48.640
And yet you still decided you're going to run for office.
00:44:54.440
Well, you know, the, uh, uh, the, the story is kind of lengthy, but I can put it in a nutshell.
00:44:59.000
Most people don't know this because it didn't hit the mainstream media, uh, narrative, but the,
00:45:04.520
um, the mob came back the next Friday on July the 3rd with a specific intent of killing
00:45:10.420
And, uh, we, uh, we had aid from, from the white house.
00:45:14.280
We had some aid from, I think Colonel West down in Texas.
00:45:17.100
And when the mob hit our house that Friday, we had six ex Navy SEALs.
00:45:21.680
We had 10 secondary employment, uh, police officers.
00:45:25.180
We had the FBI light aircraft circling the house.
00:45:28.060
We had, uh, now the mob, you know, numbering at a thousand by the time they hit the gate,
00:45:32.120
we had what we used to call in the Reagan administration, peace through superior firepower.
00:45:37.640
Um, but that was, that was a night that president Trump gave his Mount Rushmore address.
00:45:42.220
And we didn't get a chance to see it that night because we're a little busy covering
00:45:45.460
our rear hands, but Patty and I watched it the next morning.
00:45:48.620
And he talked about defeating Marxist extremism in this country.
00:45:52.000
Uh, and, but the mainstream media response called that the most divisive speech that the
00:45:58.820
president could give, and we looked at each other and we said, if defeating Marxist extremism
00:46:03.340
in the United States is divisive, like we're supposed to live in harmony with the people
00:46:08.840
that seek to destroy our lifestyle, destroy our religion, destroy our private property,
00:46:13.800
eventually enslave us and put us in reeducation camps.
00:46:17.140
If that's what the mainstream media thinks we ought to do, then there's something seriously
00:46:22.340
We just made a decision that day to put our lives on hold and do everything we could for
00:46:28.020
Well, God bless you for coming to that conclusion and, and taking, taking public responsibility
00:46:35.260
and serving the country, uh, and, uh, running for election for the Senate, uh, from, from
00:46:41.580
what I once was a great state, uh, this great state of Missouri.
00:46:46.900
But these are tough times for many states and not least among them is the state of Missouri.
00:46:52.060
I want to get from you also a sense of why you believe.
00:46:57.260
I, when you talk about the woke bar association, what I've learned over, uh, some time covering
00:47:04.500
politics, uh, once I talked, uh, about how corrupt Congress itself was, once I talked about how
00:47:14.580
Then I started reporting on how corrupt the government itself had become the deep state.
00:47:21.660
And now we have corruption that extends to our courts when John Roberts, the chief justice stood
00:47:28.540
before the, uh, uh, the country and, uh, defended his judgment on Obamacare by simply switching the
00:47:37.780
meaning of two words, uh, and, and now is proclaimed that there are no, uh, Bush judges or Trump judges or Obama judges,
00:47:48.660
or I, now, I guess, uh, it would be Biden judges.
00:47:52.480
You know, he was, he was making a farce of it all because no one in the country now believes John Roberts
00:47:59.580
when he says a damn thing, because he's lied for years.
00:48:03.540
So with that level of corruption, what can you do?
00:48:10.860
And, and this goes back to the communist international aisle from, from the beginning of time.
00:48:15.660
The whole goal in taking over free countries is to infiltrate every aspect of, of society,
00:48:22.080
the government, education, media, communication, um, to cause the, the environment to be so unpleasant
00:48:29.660
for people of genuine character and conviction that you eventually eliminate all those people
00:48:35.060
and have all the positions filled by their indoctrinated, uh, co-conspirators or, or preconditioned sheep.
00:48:42.200
And that's amongst other things, what the, the Vax mandates are about today is to identify
00:48:47.020
and clear out the, uh, the opposition and to, to have a single, uh, political entity running
00:48:54.620
Uh, but yeah, you know, it's, it's in, in every aspect of our lives now, you no longer have
00:49:03.500
Having a difference of opinion is now a criminal position according to the current administration.
00:49:08.320
I mean, it's the, the DOJ and the FBI are now just like the KGB.
00:49:13.180
They're the enforcement arm of the, of the, of the woke state.
00:49:19.620
When you have the attorney general of the United States, uh, talking about investigating parents
00:49:26.680
who believe that their local school boards should be responsive to their will, to their
00:49:32.340
judgments and views, uh, and also, uh, now because they raise their voices at a meeting, suddenly
00:49:39.440
are put under a category of a domestic terrorist.
00:49:46.280
Uh, so as we watch the Republican party try to disengage itself from its somewhat questionable
00:49:53.680
relationship, uh, with, uh, and I think corrupt relationship with the U S chamber of commerce,
00:50:00.520
with the, uh, the, the business round table with, uh, uh, wall street, uh, and become under
00:50:07.960
Trump, the, the party of the working man and woman in this country, irrespective of race,
00:50:14.640
creed, or color, and to become the party of the American family.
00:50:18.720
And to put America first, is that the same Republican party without him at the head of
00:50:25.560
You know, I think that, that the, uh, that the president Trump represented a entirely new
00:50:31.900
form of presidency where it was, where he was actually working for the people regardless
00:50:39.720
But I mean, we now have a country where there's officially sanctioned censorship, where the president
00:50:45.240
of the United States has announced that he has a right to determine what's information
00:50:51.260
And he can prevent us from hearing information that he doesn't like this current president
00:50:56.320
has made so many unconstitutional executive orders.
00:51:00.020
And I just, I just don't understand where, why there's no outrage.
00:51:03.720
Why, when he says things like he did in connection with the eviction moratorium, that I know what I'm
00:51:10.180
I know it's unconstitutional, but I'm going to do it anyway.
00:51:13.460
How come there aren't 50 Republican senators standing on the steps of the Capitol building
00:51:26.140
And that's what the people of this country need to wake up and recognize.
00:51:29.100
I think that's why, um, they flocked towards President Trump because he represented somebody
00:51:36.300
And I'm, I'm hoping that, that the people will recognize that that's, that's what I'm,
00:51:40.340
what I stand for too, that I'm not afraid to stand up and say, look, these people are corrupt.
00:51:45.720
They do not have the best interests of the American people at heart.
00:51:51.380
And that's a, uh, you know, a globalist, socialist, totalitarian world.
00:51:57.560
And this country right now, and no one should, and, and I'm not going to pussyfoot around the
00:52:02.140
issue, uh, the fact of the matter is this country is run by globalist elites, uh, who
00:52:07.360
are aligned, many of them, uh, more closely to the government of Xi Jinping than the government
00:52:14.200
certainly of, uh, uh, of Donald Trump when he was president.
00:52:18.100
And this, uh, administration seems to be, uh, not only, uh, compliant, but complicit with,
00:52:25.620
uh, Xi Jinping and the CCP in the policies they're following.
00:52:30.860
Uh, this is the president wants to tell, uh, Vladimir Putin, what he can do on his own
00:52:36.860
Uh, and if the situation were reversed, uh, would be, uh, I think most Americans would
00:52:44.860
I mean, he said, what would you do if, uh, he, uh, were encroaching on Mexico or, uh, one
00:52:51.880
of the Caribbean nations, uh, uh, by the way, since we've got some experience with that, we
00:52:56.980
So I, I don't understand how the American people are, as you, uh, you know, said, you
00:53:02.860
know, in some cases, utter sheep and oblivious to what is before their very eyes happening
00:53:08.960
in, uh, real time and, uh, on, uh, color TVs all over the country.
00:53:14.220
Yeah, it's just shocking how, how passive it really is because, you know, my wife and
00:53:19.420
I went down and visited the, uh, uh, the invasion of the Southern border and, uh, videoed it.
00:53:25.660
And I sent my video clips to every major news outlet, including, uh, the folks at the, you
00:53:30.660
know, state, uh, uh, uh, TV hosts whose shows I appear on and nobody played it, but I had
00:53:36.960
clear video of Texas National Guard, Customs and Border Patrol actively engaged in cooperation
00:53:44.820
with the cartels, bringing over as many, uh, uh, illegals as possible.
00:53:49.320
And, uh, minors, unescorted minors said, Patty and I, uh, spoke with a, uh, nine year old
00:53:55.640
from Guatemala standing in the unescorted minors line in, in Roma, Texas.
00:54:00.320
Mind you, this young lady had just gotten off a rubber raft a few minutes earlier.
00:54:04.060
We asked her, where are you going in the United States?
00:54:10.620
Before they ever get to this side of the Rio Grande, they've been re-outfitted with new
00:54:14.920
clothes, new shoes, presumably new identities and locations where they're going to be sent
00:54:22.560
The, uh, Customs and Border Patrol, before they started bringing the people over from the
00:54:26.880
other side, had the buses lined up, happens in the middle of the night, they knew how many
00:54:31.900
people they're going to get and where they're going to send them.
00:54:34.420
Uh, and, uh, it's not like you see on television where you've got beleaguered Border Patrol agents
00:54:39.440
chasing down an, uh, uh, an unreachable number of illegal aliens.
00:54:44.000
It was totally by, by agreement and, uh, a controlled exchange where we witnessed the
00:54:50.080
destruction of our civilization right before our eyes.
00:54:53.220
And so I asked the head of the, the Border Patrol there who was arranging all this that
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I, this was after the Supreme Court had ruled on the reinstatement of the Remain in Mexico
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He said, had this level of, of, uh, immigration, is this level of people the same as it's been?
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And I said, well, has this changed since the Remain in Mexico policy has been reinstated?
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His response was, I don't get involved in politics.
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And he doesn't, uh, the Border Patrol doesn't, uh, the former, the former top officials of
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the Border Patrol and Customs, uh, have told me straight out, uh, when I say that the,
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the cartels are in control of both sides of that border.
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And anyone who tells you it's just the Southern side, they're lying through their teeth.
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And there are, you know, most people will say, well, they're lying or they're naive.
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There's no one naive involved whatsoever in the cross border narcotics trafficking, sex
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trafficking, uh, and the export of death from, uh, communist China through Mexico across that
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border, uh, with, uh, just, uh, extraordinary doses of, uh, fentanyl enough in the most recent
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apprehension to kill, uh, 50 million Americans.
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I mean, and, and people just keep, uh, accepting collateral damage at some point, at some point
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collateral damage will become the entire nation.
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This happens right in front of everybody's eyes and everybody turns a blind eye to it.
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2 million illegal aliens this year, uh, enough drugs to kill everybody in the country.
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And, uh, the death rate from opioid overdose outshadows every other thing.
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And, uh, we're worried about a, a border inclusion in, in, uh, in Ukraine on the other
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Uh, more discussion about the border, the, the Eastern border of Ukraine and the Western
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There's more discussion of that in Washington, DC than there is of our border with Mexico.
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It's glaringly, uh, uh, just absurd, uh, to even imagine that, uh, Mitch McConnell, the
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head, and I, I'm not going to get you involved in this.
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Uh, Mitch McConnell, uh, Kevin McCarthy are rhinos and rhinos are trying to tear the guts
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Uh, and you've talked about passive aggressive, those, those rhinos who populate, unfortunately,
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uh, by too great a number, uh, the Republican party, uh, have done extraordinary damage, not
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only to president Trump, uh, we, we owe that to the, to the left, the deep state and the
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radical dims who have been leading that party for the last 30 years.
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When they persecuted Donald Trump, harassed him, hounded him, and, uh, and, uh, it made
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it absolutely impossible for him to get a fair, uh, a fair report from any news organization.
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Uh, you know, we, we became a different country, in my opinion.
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So with that, let me, let me ask you this in, in not over granular terms, but give us a sense
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of your race right now, where you stand, uh, the competition, uh, the, uh, resources from
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the establishment that have to surely be arrayed against you.
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Well, you know, I'm, I'm running against two five term congressmen, uh, the former, uh, governor
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of Missouri who resigned in disgrace and our current, uh, sitting attorney general.
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And then there's a guy, there's a number of other candidates, uh, one of whom is the,
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uh, president pro tem of the Missouri Senate, but the, but the, the, the congressman, the
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ex governor and the attorney general are the real competition.
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And they're the folks that are supported by the party because I'm uncontrollable.
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I mean, I, I've never been a candidate for anything before.
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I'm, I'm doing it because I think it's a, something that God has called me to do in the
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Um, we are, we have no support for the mainstream party.
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In fact, very shortly after I announced my campaign, uh, a former lieutenant governor of
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the state of Missouri was going around trying to get a coalition of people to talk me out
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of running, which I figured that if the mainstream party is that opposed to me, I must be doing
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We've had over 27,000 individual contributors, many times a number of any other candidate, um,
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they're all, all small time contributors, you know, mom and pop, we got a, we got a campaign
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contribution in last week, uh, with three quarters taped to the donation package.
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And you gotta, you just gotta have your heart go out to a lady who's going to give you 75
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I mean, that's, those are the real people in this country.
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Those are the people I want to represent, not the billionaires and the fat cats and the,
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Well, the Trump, the Trump administration used to refer to those in the Trump campaign
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as the forgotten American, but the forgotten American has been once again, forgotten by
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And it's, it, it concerns me deeply and not, and even more than forgotten, despised.
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They have, they, they, they don't like the fact that there are people out there that aren't
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They, they find them to be the enemy of when the, when the department of justice this year
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declared that white, white extremists are the greatest threat for America, more so than
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That, that's the disdain that this government, including the rhinos have for the average American
01:00:51.740
We're also watching it in our Pentagon, the top officials, the military leaders and civilian
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leaders with the same woke nonsense and this, a same silly and absurdist view.
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I, I mean, when you hear the secretary of defense start talking about the biggest threat
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is the, uh, military order within the, our armed forces, uh, you know, you're dealing with
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complete idiots, uh, who are hell bent on anything, but defending the nation.
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You know, every one of these, every one of these programs is designed to identify and
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exclude from, from position people that are independent thinkers and aren't part of the
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One is you consolidate your power within the organized, organized power structure.
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And the other is you now have identified and have on an enemies list, all the people that
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Now I've been on the, uh, enemies, the enemies list for some time now, uh, and, uh, my wife
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and I, not always our family, but my wife and I, uh, are used to it.
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But, uh, it's, uh, it is, it is unfortunately, as you've pointed out, uh, the price of public
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I want to thank you for taking that, uh, that step and making that judgment and that, and
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what we know is a great sacrifice for you and your family.
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Uh, but I'm sure that the people of Missouri appreciate it and will respond, uh, and I'm
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no longer under any constraint whatsoever because, uh, I I've learned the, uh, you know, it's
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It's another thing to live independent this podcast, uh, the great America show will do
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everything it can to help you in your campaign and to assure that, uh, uh, you, uh, have the
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best shot in the world of, uh, representing the folks who desperately need it, uh, there
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So whatever we can do, let us know, uh, we will, uh, uh, support your campaign.
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We will publicize your candidacy and, uh, we're a little acorn, but we will have our,
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uh, our, our minuscule impact, uh, uh, out there as best we can.
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And I, you know, what I say every day is this is what I call a post-political time in America.
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You can't count on the politicians to help you.
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The government's there not to help you, but to take away your power and take away your
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Every, every individual, every American citizen needs to stand up by themselves and defend their
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freedoms, refuse to comply, refuse to, to, uh, uh, do what the government says when the
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government makes illegal mandates, illegal and unconstitutional executive orders, and
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And that's, that's, that's a movement that I hope that we can start and continue and help
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enough people in this country stand up and recognize what's going on, that we can, we
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can put a stop to it and bring our, our freedoms back.
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Well, I'm only more enthusiastic after spending this time talking with you about your candidacy.
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And what I hope will be your contribution to, uh, this nation's, uh, wellbeing and, uh,
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Uh, Mark McCloskey, we thank you for being with us and, uh, look forward to talking with
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I sure appreciate the opportunity and thank you very much.
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Mark McCloskey, candidate for the United States Senate for Missouri.
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I never tell anybody what to do, but I sure, well, I do tell the deep state and the Marxist
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But, uh, my fellow citizens, I never tell what to do, but I do want you to know about
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And I think he is one of the, uh, the great choices.
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Uh, and, uh, I'm going to do what I can to, to, to help along the way, no matter how modest
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Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast.
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