The Great America Show - January 13, 2022


MARINE TALKS AFGHAN TRUTH; MCCLOSKEY VS MARXISTS


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 5 minutes

Words per Minute

175.09715

Word Count

11,444

Sentence Count

608

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Great America podcast with Lou Dobbs,
00:00:04.200 always in the fight for truth, justice, and yes, our American way of life.
00:00:09.240 And now here he is, the Peabody award-winning voice of truth, the great Lou Dobbs.
00:00:14.780 Welcome to the Great America show, and we thank you for being with us, as always.
00:00:19.320 President Biden's presidency has been plagued by misstatements, misjudgments,
00:00:23.860 maladroit handling of almost every issue and challenges that are faced by this nation.
00:00:30.460 From a devastating pandemic that claimed more of American lives in Biden's first year in office
00:00:35.540 than in President Trump's last year in office, and from Russia's very real threat to invade Ukraine
00:00:41.920 to Xi Jinping's very real takeover of Hong Kong and aggression in the South China Sea.
00:00:48.900 China's threats to invade Taiwan persist, and insults are being hurled at the United States
00:00:55.860 almost weekly, and they go without response from the Biden administration.
00:01:01.400 Biden's approval numbers have fallen dramatically since this past summer,
00:01:06.440 a summer in which he ordered a hasty and chaotic withdrawal of all our troops in Afghanistan.
00:01:12.280 And some say he can never recover in the polls after that dismal handling of the withdrawal,
00:01:17.400 and particularly the August Taliban attacks on the Kabul airport that resulted in the deaths
00:01:24.760 of 12 of our Marines and a Navy corpsman.
00:01:28.360 The Pentagon may not soon recover either from the backlash that followed the disastrous withdrawal
00:01:34.520 and the loss of American lives seemingly so needlessly.
00:01:39.620 The White House and Pentagon tried to manage, of course, the public outcry.
00:01:44.840 The public outrage, however, overwhelmed the Biden damage control efforts.
00:01:50.240 But one Marine officer publicly called for those in command to be held accountable.
00:01:56.080 Marine Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller called out his superiors for their failure in organizing
00:02:01.400 and implementing the Afghan withdrawal and their failure to take responsibility for their failure
00:02:08.580 and the deaths of 13 service members.
00:02:11.680 We're proud to say Colonel Scheller joins us here today on The Great America Show,
00:02:17.080 and we welcome a man who stood up for his principles and the nations suffering immensely for doing so.
00:02:25.080 Stuart Scheller, delighted to have you with us here on the broadcast, and welcome.
00:02:29.160 And thanks, Lou, for having me on the show.
00:02:31.800 I've listened to The Great American Show before, and I know you have a strong followership,
00:02:37.000 so I'm just happy to be a part of it and get to discuss some things that I think are very important
00:02:42.380 and that all Americans should be talking about and thinking about.
00:02:45.760 Well, thank you for that.
00:02:47.480 And when I say I'm proud to have you with us, I mean exactly that.
00:02:51.980 I'm proud of you and what you stand for and the guts it took to stand for the principles that you expressed.
00:03:01.120 I think a lot of people don't understand often that people who speak truth to power,
00:03:08.320 who seek truth and are principled in their lives,
00:03:12.420 are usually people who have the character to know that there will be consequences,
00:03:18.840 and still they go ahead.
00:03:20.640 Give us all here a sense of how you felt that August when we saw so much chaos,
00:03:30.640 the U.S. military obviously botching the withdrawal,
00:03:35.280 the human tragedy that we witnessed,
00:03:38.760 and your feelings as a Marine officer responsible for the lives and the conduct
00:03:43.520 of so many of our troops.
00:03:46.980 What went through your mind and heart as you watched?
00:03:51.480 Yeah, I appreciate the question.
00:03:53.260 So people that may not be familiar with me,
00:03:55.200 I'm a 17-year infantry officer.
00:03:58.020 I've been to Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:03:59.920 I've deployed five times.
00:04:02.160 And at the time where Afghanistan was really unraveling quickly,
00:04:06.220 I was a battalion commander at a place called Advanced Infantry Training Battalion
00:04:10.420 on the east coast of Camp Lejeune.
00:04:13.180 Previous to that, I was a regimental operations officer.
00:04:16.260 So I was trans-manning and equipping the unit that ultimately responded,
00:04:21.060 Victor 1-8.
00:04:21.760 So they're a battalion within six Marines.
00:04:23.640 So I was intimately familiar with all the people,
00:04:26.460 the leaders that had responded.
00:04:28.260 And I was also a member as a young lieutenant in 1-8.
00:04:32.440 So the unit that responded just had a lot of crossroads
00:04:35.880 in my upbringing and experiences in life.
00:04:38.360 So it was personal in that way.
00:04:40.060 And then obviously, having just served downrange in Afghanistan,
00:04:44.940 running and gunning, it was also very personal for me based on my experiences.
00:04:49.080 So as I was watching it unfold every day in the media and on social media,
00:04:53.880 I was getting angry.
00:04:55.180 I was getting frustrated.
00:04:57.080 And this is foreign diplomacy.
00:04:58.380 Not only have I served, but this is something I've thought about extensively.
00:05:01.580 I got a master's degree in military science.
00:05:04.240 My thesis was on how to make foreign diplomacy more effective.
00:05:07.380 I wrote a 65-page paper on this.
00:05:10.440 This is something that I have thought about, that I have lived, that I have experienced.
00:05:15.620 And so as I was watching it, I was just thinking about all the mistakes, the missteps,
00:05:20.160 and I was frustrated by it.
00:05:22.780 And then on 18 August, the commandant of the Marine Corps put out a white letter,
00:05:26.360 which is essentially a formal correspondence to the whole Marine Corps,
00:05:29.960 where he was addressing all the military members that were getting upset in the fallout of Afghanistan.
00:05:34.720 And he just said, you know, what you did was worth it.
00:05:39.140 But if you're having problems, go see a therapist.
00:05:41.360 And that letter really frustrated me because over the last 20 years, we've won every tactical battle.
00:05:47.200 So if you really study this, you know, if you go back to Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan,
00:05:51.700 we're winning the tactical battles.
00:05:53.820 That's where we're not losing.
00:05:55.340 We're losing at the operational level, which is the combatant command level,
00:05:59.920 which is the four-star general level connected to the National Security Council and the political level.
00:06:04.800 Like that's where we're failing wars.
00:06:06.340 So for the general to put out a letter trying to say, hey, your sacrifices were worth it
00:06:11.400 without addressing the failures of the leadership.
00:06:15.580 I mean, if he would have addressed the failures of the leadership, the Marines could have avoided
00:06:20.040 the trip to the therapist.
00:06:21.600 And so I was mad when he put out that letter and then came 26 August when the attack happened
00:06:26.840 and we lost a bunch of people.
00:06:28.580 And I just got to a point where I knew addressing it within the system wasn't going to have the
00:06:33.520 change that was needed.
00:06:34.600 We needed to have a public conversation.
00:06:37.100 My senior leaders either didn't understand or were just being very negligent.
00:06:41.660 And so I made a YouTube video that I posted essentially addressing just that,
00:06:46.780 that we needed accountability.
00:06:48.840 And I didn't, I made it at work that day of the attack,
00:06:52.240 but I understood full well what it meant for my career.
00:06:55.280 I mean, I was scared to post it at work.
00:06:57.500 I drove home and I actually paced in front of my house, like thinking, do I post this?
00:07:00.880 Do I post this?
00:07:01.940 Because I knew once I did and if it took off that I was most likely going to be relieved
00:07:06.660 in all my suffering and sacrifices and work up to that point in my career,
00:07:12.720 which had been very successful up to that point, was going to come off the rails.
00:07:16.940 But, you know, it came from a place of love.
00:07:19.180 I love the military.
00:07:19.880 I love the Marines.
00:07:20.460 I love the service member.
00:07:21.560 And I think they've done wonderful things.
00:07:22.960 And I thought somebody needed to speak up.
00:07:25.700 And a lot of people through this ordeal have pointed out how it wasn't my place to speak up.
00:07:30.320 And I agree with them.
00:07:31.420 But the truth is there's no one else speaking up.
00:07:33.760 And I just kind of felt like, if not me, who?
00:07:37.540 And if not now, when?
00:07:38.780 Like, you know, we're already on to focusing on China and trying to fix the, you know,
00:07:43.640 let's just use the Marine Corps, for example.
00:07:45.220 The Commandant is trying to mature the force, focus on distributed operations.
00:07:48.600 He's focusing on the tactical level.
00:07:50.540 Again, the tactical level is successful every single time.
00:07:54.760 No one is focusing on how to fix the operational slash strategic level where we are consistently
00:08:00.620 failing.
00:08:01.380 And it starts with accountability of senior leaders.
00:08:03.280 And so that's why I did that.
00:08:05.400 And on that day that you're pacing in front of your residence, were you afraid you might
00:08:12.160 not the next day make that posting of that video?
00:08:18.900 I mean, if you go back and watch it, I even say in the video, if I have the courage to post
00:08:22.560 it.
00:08:22.780 Because I mean, what I thought was going to happen was when I posted that video, an investigation
00:08:29.580 would take place and then they would relieve me after the investigation.
00:08:35.620 But what happened was they pulled me in and just relieved me immediately with no investigation.
00:08:40.740 And that upset me.
00:08:42.340 But I still at that point didn't plan on making any other statements.
00:08:45.900 But then all these previous bosses of mine started getting on my social media and attacking
00:08:50.900 me personally and saying if I had any honor, I would resign.
00:08:55.460 And so it became one of these situations where I thought it was just going to be that first
00:08:59.000 video.
00:08:59.360 But then when the system attacks me, it's like when you're in a fight, when somebody
00:09:02.160 starts pushing you, I had a choice where I could just kind of go in the fetal position
00:09:06.380 and submit or push back.
00:09:07.820 And I felt like what I was saying was important enough.
00:09:10.240 And I believed in it fully that when when the system started attacking me, I just started
00:09:14.100 attacking back.
00:09:14.780 And it became this escalating series of them imposing sanctions, gag orders, threats, mental
00:09:22.060 health evaluations that, you know, it ultimately culminated with me in jail and going to court
00:09:27.160 marshal.
00:09:28.100 Were you shocked when you found out you're you're on your way to the brig?
00:09:32.460 You know, I every time I posted something, I thought through what the command would do.
00:09:39.380 And there was if the post, the final post I made before I went into the brig, I wrote
00:09:43.680 I'm willingly violating the gag order.
00:09:45.660 And then I went on to point out things that, you know, no one was talking about, but were
00:09:50.720 true.
00:09:51.420 And I said, I'll see you at zero eight.
00:09:53.480 Be ready for the brig.
00:09:54.700 Have the MPs waiting for me.
00:09:55.780 So, like, obviously, I had thought through there was a good chance they would send me to
00:09:59.180 the brig.
00:09:59.500 But I also had read the manual for court marshal in the UCMJ before I made that post to see
00:10:05.940 what requirements were necessary to put me in the brig.
00:10:08.880 And one of them is you have to be a flight risk.
00:10:11.360 And I was showing up to work every single day.
00:10:14.480 And so I thought they're going to have a hard time putting me in the brig, justifying that
00:10:18.460 I'm a flight risk.
00:10:19.720 And so I was kind of I didn't I didn't know how they were going to play it.
00:10:24.400 And ultimately, they sent me to the brig and they wrote on the documentation that I was
00:10:27.880 a flight risk, which is just a blatant lie.
00:10:30.500 I mean, I literally showed up that Monday morning at zero eight after I said, I'll be
00:10:34.440 there at zero eight to send me to jail.
00:10:37.020 You know, I was showing up to work every day.
00:10:38.300 They were texting me.
00:10:38.940 I was texting back.
00:10:39.640 They're calling.
00:10:40.040 I was calling back.
00:10:40.500 Like, at no point was I a flight risk.
00:10:42.400 And so they had to cut some corners and basically just say factually incorrect things to justify
00:10:48.200 the imprisonment.
00:10:49.120 And the other thing is, you're not supposed to go to jail for a special court martial.
00:10:54.040 There is no pretrial for a special court martial.
00:10:56.100 So like in all respects, it was, in my opinion, illegal, which goes back to I could have fought
00:11:02.140 it and gone to general.
00:11:03.120 And I think I probably could have got off because of how incorrectly they played it.
00:11:07.900 But the other part of it was I was in certain respects trying to bait them to send me to jail
00:11:12.580 to just consistently illustrate the hypocrisy of the system.
00:11:16.500 You know, they sent me to jail or they relieved me without an investigation.
00:11:21.360 General McKenzie killed civilians, children, bringing water to needy people.
00:11:27.980 And they didn't fire him right away.
00:11:29.480 They did an investigation.
00:11:30.260 And then following the investigation, they said, yeah, that was a pretty bad mistake,
00:11:32.800 but it wasn't negligent.
00:11:34.060 So we're going to let him keep his job.
00:11:35.880 Whereas me, I demand accountability and we're not even going to have an investigation.
00:11:39.340 We're just going to relieve me immediately and then throw me in the brig.
00:11:41.380 Right.
00:11:41.540 So a lot of the things I was doing after the fact were just to keep illustrating and keep
00:11:46.240 the news cycle going that like, hey, this is broken, guys.
00:11:48.800 Let's take a look at this.
00:11:50.200 Those who are listening to you right now may wonder about this word accountability
00:11:54.540 and they may wonder about the command structure.
00:11:57.200 But when you're talking about wars fought and lost, I'm using the word advisedly, whether
00:12:07.500 it's Afghanistan, whether it's Iraq, we go back to the Persian Gulf War, where that was
00:12:13.600 decidedly a victory for the United States and our troops.
00:12:17.840 But these wars that we are fighting as police actions in which we have lost precious lives
00:12:24.280 of our service members, left in this last instance, billions, tens of billions of dollars
00:12:31.760 of equipment at the order of the commander in chief, just left it for the Taliban and other
00:12:37.700 enemies of the United States.
00:12:39.260 This is without explanation from the Pentagon, without rationalization.
00:12:46.040 And we know that right now the United States military is in deep, deep trouble and there's
00:12:54.300 no acknowledgement of it.
00:12:56.320 And they're trying to sweep your comments under the rug as quickly as they can, whether by ignoring
00:13:01.960 them or suppressing your observations.
00:13:05.260 But we know this, our generals, our admirals, the military leadership and the civilian leadership
00:13:11.360 over the United States military is in desperate, desperate trouble.
00:13:16.720 And that means this nation is in desperate trouble.
00:13:19.480 Do you agree?
00:13:21.360 Yeah, I 100% agree.
00:13:23.120 I'll tell you.
00:13:24.240 Yeah.
00:13:24.840 So here's my thoughts on this.
00:13:26.640 Most Americans don't understand how foreign diplomacy works and how the different departments
00:13:32.280 divide up the globe.
00:13:33.500 So if you take the Department of Defense, they divide it up into combatant commands.
00:13:37.540 If you take the Department of State, they divide it up into different regions that aren't even
00:13:41.040 the same map.
00:13:42.300 The Department of Intelligence, same way.
00:13:44.260 So each agency within the government divides up the globe into regions.
00:13:48.720 And then in those regions, you have regional commanders.
00:13:52.320 And so in the military, CENTCOM, combatant command is General McKenzie.
00:13:56.620 And everyone knows General Milley.
00:13:58.360 And he's given a lot of reasons for people to dislike him and to question his honor and
00:14:03.280 integrity.
00:14:04.160 But quite honestly, General Milley had nothing to do with Afghanistan.
00:14:09.080 General McKenzie works straight for the Secretary of Defense who works for the president.
00:14:14.040 And so how this works is the CENTCOM combatant commander develops plans.
00:14:18.200 So he has what they call operational planners that give him a bunch of courses of action,
00:14:23.440 COAs, to say, here's the different ways that we can do this.
00:14:27.040 And I know that those planners gave him a bunch of options to maintain Bagram Air Base,
00:14:33.200 right?
00:14:33.820 And so then General McKenzie takes all these plans and he goes to the National Security
00:14:37.140 Council and he goes to the Secretary of Defense and he presents these plans.
00:14:40.460 Well, I know that President Biden came back and said, no, we're not going to keep Bagram
00:14:44.720 because of the restraints.
00:14:47.300 I want to get people out of there.
00:14:49.080 So just wave off of Bagram, pull chalks, and we'll fall back to Kabul, right?
00:14:54.360 So a couple of things on that.
00:14:56.400 First, any good staff officer knows that they have to convince their boss why their plan is
00:15:01.400 the best, right?
00:15:02.440 And so in my opinion, General McKenzie had an obligation to convince them why keeping Bagram
00:15:07.660 Air Base was important.
00:15:08.920 He failed to do that.
00:15:09.700 OK, so you failed that.
00:15:11.760 Now the president has said, here's the resources and restraints for you to execute.
00:15:18.080 General McKenzie has a second decision.
00:15:19.760 He failed to influence.
00:15:21.480 Now he can resign.
00:15:23.500 A lot of people say general officers shouldn't resign because that becomes political and
00:15:27.220 the military, rightfully so, wants to remain apolitical.
00:15:29.740 And if we have senior general officers that are just resigning all the time because they
00:15:32.720 don't like the resources or the ideas or the orders of the president, then it becomes
00:15:37.480 the appearance, at least, of a political nature.
00:15:40.380 So, OK.
00:15:40.760 That, by the way, let me interrupt you there.
00:15:44.180 Stu, that is, you know, that is solipsistic.
00:15:47.500 It is a rationalization.
00:15:49.940 If it's inculcated values within the military that you don't resign because you appear political,
00:15:58.920 my God, everybody knows that the military is now political because of Milley, because of
00:16:04.460 what we have witnessed, because of what the direct command from the commander-in-chief disregarding
00:16:12.840 the entire military, you know, you just go through this.
00:16:16.420 You mentioned the layover, the overlays for intelligence, for defense, the State Department,
00:16:23.700 and diplomacy.
00:16:24.500 We've just witnessed three intelligence agencies work with the so-called interagency to carry
00:16:37.780 out a fraud impeachment against a president of the United States.
00:16:42.560 We've just watched, in terms of the military, absolute silence on the part of FBI agents who
00:16:49.940 knew that they were framing a three-star general, for crying out loud, and I'm referring to General
00:16:56.360 Flan in the White House in the early days, because there is this culture of where we don't speak up,
00:17:03.540 going to what you're talking about.
00:17:05.360 We don't speak up.
00:17:06.440 We don't resign.
00:17:07.540 We are inert, and basically, we just do what we're told, because everything beyond doing what
00:17:14.920 you're told would give the wrong impression.
00:17:17.500 I mean, my God, what kind of mindlessness is this that has besotted our public servants
00:17:27.500 in both the State Department, the Pentagon, our intelligence agencies, our law enforcement
00:17:32.660 agencies, the Department of Justice?
00:17:34.740 I mean, it's madness.
00:17:36.760 I completely agree.
00:17:38.380 I mean, I resigned, right?
00:17:40.180 Right.
00:17:40.440 So I agree with you, obviously, through my actions demonstrate that.
00:17:43.300 I said, hey, this is something that is wrong, and I resigned.
00:17:47.980 But, you know, so General McKenzie didn't do that, and he's got a lot of people up there
00:17:53.240 that would argue that he shouldn't have.
00:17:55.160 But here's the third point, right?
00:17:56.880 So he didn't influence.
00:17:58.140 He didn't resign.
00:17:59.540 So here's my point.
00:18:00.880 Once he accepted the resources of the plan and said, okay, I'm going to execute this and
00:18:07.300 not resign, he is now 100% responsible for that plan.
00:18:12.060 He doesn't, after the fact, then get to say, no, I gave the president other options, and
00:18:18.040 he decided he didn't want them, so I'm not accountable.
00:18:20.220 It doesn't work like that, right?
00:18:22.040 You have the ability to influence him.
00:18:23.800 You have the ability to resign.
00:18:24.940 But once you don't do those things, then you're accountable, General McKenzie.
00:18:29.220 And so he took this plan, and he did not execute it well, right?
00:18:34.580 He didn't do it out of malice.
00:18:35.920 He didn't do it because he's a bad guy.
00:18:37.980 I know a lot of guys in the Marine Corps that think very highly of him.
00:18:40.860 I mean, he's a good leader.
00:18:42.000 But ultimately, his plan failed horribly.
00:18:45.180 He relied on the Taliban for security.
00:18:46.900 He just massively underestimated the speed with which the Taliban would advance.
00:18:53.460 And we left all that gear not because we deliberately wanted to leave the gear.
00:18:56.700 It's because we were in a panicked state, and we had to get out of there.
00:18:59.860 You know, we leave a lot of gear in countries, and it ultimately comes down to, is it more
00:19:04.680 expensive to ship it back to the United States or to just blow it up, right?
00:19:08.120 And so there are some deliberate calculations that are made in terms of leaving gear, but
00:19:11.700 that's not what happened in Afghanistan.
00:19:13.520 We left gear in a haste.
00:19:15.460 And if you watch General McKenzie's testimony after the fact, he said, well, there's still
00:19:21.720 hundreds of Americans left in Afghanistan, but this is a Department of State endeavor
00:19:26.700 now.
00:19:27.060 And the Department of Defense's plans and execution is complete.
00:19:30.800 And then I watched Secretary Blinken testify in front of Congress, and he said, I didn't
00:19:36.120 inherit a plan, and I wasn't prepared.
00:19:38.520 And it's like, how does that happen?
00:19:40.180 How does the Department of Defense leave when there's hundreds of Americans and say, now
00:19:44.500 the Department of State's got it?
00:19:45.820 And then the Secretary of State's like, yeah, I didn't have a plan.
00:19:48.240 I didn't know what I was doing.
00:19:49.160 Like, I just, it like makes me want to put my head through a wall.
00:19:51.920 Like, it's crazy.
00:19:54.320 Well, take good care of that head, because it's working very well for the country in
00:19:58.660 particular.
00:20:00.800 There is just a sense about this conversation.
00:20:05.240 I have to tell you, of all the pain and blood and death that Afghanistan represents for
00:20:15.180 Americans and for Afghanistan itself.
00:20:18.380 To have one Marine Corps officer stand up and say, I can't stomach the hypocrisy, the
00:20:27.820 lack of principle, the lack of character, judgment, and honor on the part of the command
00:20:34.580 staff of the United States military.
00:20:37.820 It's not just the Marine Corps you're talking about.
00:20:40.200 Uh, I, I mean, think about that.
00:20:44.200 I know you must've, but you talk about one man standing against the tide.
00:20:49.980 You're it.
00:20:51.120 Uh, I, there is no analog for Lieutenant Colonel Stu Scheller.
00:20:57.800 There's no one like you.
00:20:59.400 Yeah.
00:21:00.000 I, you know, I really believe that once I spoke out more of my peers would be vocal, at least
00:21:08.020 in, you know, they didn't need to do everything I did, but acknowledge the content of my statements
00:21:12.980 publicly and say, you know what, he's, what he's saying is correct.
00:21:17.860 And just nobody even had the courage to do that.
00:21:20.660 Not only did they not do that.
00:21:22.180 I mean, they personally attacked me in investigation.
00:21:23.920 I mean, they sent me to a command directed mental health evaluation when, you know, Lou, I missed
00:21:30.980 the birth of my first child on a combat deployment in Afghanistan, right?
00:21:34.060 They didn't make me get a mental health evaluation after that.
00:21:36.720 It didn't make me get a mental health evaluation when I missed the funeral of like every living
00:21:40.280 grandparent, or, you know, I could go on and on with examples like this.
00:21:43.580 The only time they made me get a mental health evaluation is when I spoke out against everything
00:21:47.100 you just described, the hypocrisy, ineptitude, inability to see the bigger picture.
00:21:52.060 And so that's, yeah, it was very heartbreaking in a lot of ways.
00:21:57.380 And when you think about how many moral courage classes, case studies, things we do, and most
00:22:05.700 people admit that the content of what I said is correct, but just none of them had the courage
00:22:11.060 to even acknowledge that publicly.
00:22:13.500 And so, and I get it, there is a lot, I mean, the military came out and made an order that
00:22:21.000 if anyone supported my social media, it was punishable, right?
00:22:25.320 And I still had a lot of, a lot of military members supporting my social media, even despite
00:22:31.460 that order, you know, I think the military kind of backed away from that because they
00:22:35.620 realized how the public opinion was, was going, but.
00:22:40.060 Well, the public opinion right now of the United States military.
00:22:43.500 It hasn't been, it hasn't been lower, uh, since, well, since really Vietnam.
00:22:49.320 Yeah.
00:22:49.580 Uh, it, it, it's, we've had one element of our government that was prized and that was the
00:22:57.540 military and what they've done to politicize, whether it's CRT, whether it is this wokeness
00:23:05.040 that these, uh, idiots, uh, who claim their leaders are, are, uh, you know, indoctrinating
00:23:11.460 throughout the, uh, the services.
00:23:14.660 It's just, it's terrible.
00:23:16.900 And then Afghanistan, the loss of life, the loss of purpose, the, you know, you can say
00:23:24.000 what you want to, but this, this is a terrible moment in American history where we fought,
00:23:30.060 uh, countries that are, you said that we've won tactically.
00:23:33.560 Uh, there are those who say that all war is tactical.
00:23:36.160 Uh, and for anyone who's ever been in the trenches, that's exactly what it is.
00:23:41.600 But to think that this country isn't strong enough in its military academies and its, uh,
00:23:50.240 officer training to say, what does failure look like?
00:23:54.440 And how do we deal with failure?
00:23:57.280 Because every one of those generals is responsible for the failure and to suggest we will not,
00:24:03.020 I mean, we've got more generals.
00:24:04.440 What is it?
00:24:04.840 I mean, it's like, uh, 400% more generals now than we had with 12 million Americans fighting
00:24:13.760 in world war two.
00:24:16.340 It's a bureaucracy.
00:24:17.760 It is a corporate entity.
00:24:20.280 It is not a military with leaders saying, this is the national purpose.
00:24:25.260 This is the, the objective and the mission, and we will accomplishment when instead we have
00:24:30.560 a general, a four-star general writing war doctrine called the long war.
00:24:37.320 I mean, it's idiotic, rationalizing failure as doctrine as doctrinal, uh, make it long persist,
00:24:46.500 uh, instead of fight and kill.
00:24:50.460 Yeah.
00:24:50.980 I mean, you, you hit on a lot of things there.
00:24:54.140 Um, so I'll start with the public opinion degrading.
00:24:59.600 I think quite honestly, the lionizing of the generals and the over appreciation has not
00:25:07.500 allowed criticism of the military, which we are in desperate need of.
00:25:12.140 I think people need to be very critical and have open conversations because just part of
00:25:18.260 the problem is the American people is afraid to criticize it because then it seems they're
00:25:22.340 anti-military.
00:25:23.840 Even Congress is scared.
00:25:25.740 Congress, when the fallout of Afghanistan happened, took turns giving soundbites of
00:25:30.340 anger.
00:25:30.840 And then what?
00:25:31.460 Nothing.
00:25:32.520 The Congress's influence over the DOD is the budget.
00:25:36.400 And what wasn't in the news was six days previous to all their, you know, soundbites of anger.
00:25:41.560 They all unanimously approved one of the biggest budgets.
00:25:44.260 Not one of them had the courage to stand against the budget and say, show me metrics of effectiveness
00:25:48.720 based on what you did with the last budget.
00:25:50.660 Show me who's accountable in the wars, right?
00:25:52.560 Because then that would have appeared anti-military and it would have gone against their self-preservation
00:25:56.900 to remain in Congress.
00:25:58.800 And so people need to be able to criticize the military.
00:26:02.040 Congress needs to be able to criticize the military because quite honestly, it's wildly
00:26:05.480 ineffective right now.
00:26:07.080 And as you pointed out, we have just a ton of general officers.
00:26:10.640 If you go back and look at the amount of general officers that were fired in World War
00:26:14.400 II, we'd have to pull the stats, but, you know, just as a point of an example, I would
00:26:19.680 submit almost as many general officers were fired in World War II than they have in all
00:26:24.980 the wars since, right?
00:26:26.520 It's stunning.
00:26:27.940 That's an interesting point.
00:26:29.120 I have never, I've never heard it brought up before and I've never thought about it
00:26:33.020 myself.
00:26:33.840 Yeah.
00:26:34.060 I guarantee you we'll, we'll check it out.
00:26:35.880 That's a, that's a great consideration.
00:26:37.640 There's a book called the generals written by Rick Scott and it goes into depth on this.
00:26:41.800 And he does a lot of great research.
00:26:43.260 And the bottom line is people in World War II were fired all the time and not even just
00:26:48.100 fired, but we're just benched and not even given a chance to command based on different
00:26:53.060 things that they did differently in World War II.
00:26:54.980 And somehow after that, we got away from that in Vietnam is a perfect example.
00:26:58.700 The, the case study for moral courage that the military uses almost consistently is
00:27:05.380 My Lai in the, in Vietnam, there was an incident in My Lai where a young lieutenant went through
00:27:10.360 with this platoon and basically just massacred a small village of women and children.
00:27:14.260 And some helicopter pilot, a chief warrant officer flies down and stops this.
00:27:18.580 And so it's celebrating the chief warrant officer having the moral courage.
00:27:22.480 And what they don't talk about in that case study is that the lieutenant and the captain
00:27:28.160 were held accountable, but there was no general officer.
00:27:30.600 You know, there was no colonel that was fired for essentially a massacre of a village and
00:27:37.080 setting the command culture.
00:27:38.920 And so there's a perfect example of like, we talk about moral courage, like why weren't
00:27:41.840 general officers held accountable for that?
00:27:43.620 You know, and you can, I can give a million examples.
00:27:46.380 And so now you're, you also brought up the long war.
00:27:50.080 Another problem I have is the theory of counterinsurgency.
00:27:53.980 That's made so many of our generals lionized, popular celebrities.
00:27:58.920 I mean, Mattis, McChrystal, Petraeus, I mean, go down the list.
00:28:04.260 They're all counterinsurgency gurus.
00:28:07.000 Quite honestly, we're failing at the operational strategic level because we're getting caught
00:28:11.400 in insurgencies.
00:28:12.480 The way you win a war is to not get caught in an insurgency, right?
00:28:16.140 If you get in yourself into an insurgency, now you got to break out the small war wars manual
00:28:20.980 and understand counterinsurgency, but these guys like Mattis, who people just think are
00:28:26.180 these war heroes.
00:28:27.620 I mean, the guy never saw combat until he was in 06, right?
00:28:30.720 And then, and then he becomes this counterinsurgency guru, but we didn't win those counterinsurgencies.
00:28:37.400 And when he was the secretary of defense and he publicly resigned over President Trump's
00:28:42.040 policies in Syria, that ISIS threat was a product of the failed war in which Mattis got
00:28:47.240 popular.
00:28:47.720 And so all it seems right now is we have this generation of generals, like we don't have
00:28:52.500 a general that's won a war.
00:28:53.640 And it goes back to your point about the bureaucracy of it.
00:28:56.740 Like we have to have certain celebrities and we want to like lionize the military members,
00:29:02.300 but we need criticism.
00:29:03.480 We need to look at like, let's check the record.
00:29:05.540 How many wars did you win?
00:29:06.780 You know, like what are your actual experiences?
00:29:08.800 Like, what do you stand for?
00:29:10.160 And we just don't seem to have that in my generation that I saw.
00:29:13.200 Well, Colonel, we're, uh, we're indebted to you, as I said, for your character and for
00:29:20.140 your actions and, uh, deep respect, uh, for all that you've done and have endured.
00:29:27.480 Uh, I think that the audience of, uh, of this show would certainly like to know what you're
00:29:33.840 going to be doing, uh, and where they can, uh, help in any way, because each of us is
00:29:40.340 invested, uh, in truth, which you represent and, uh, in this great nation, uh, uh, which
00:29:48.700 is represented by that uniform that you had to, uh, let go of, uh, you know, I tell us
00:29:56.800 what, which what's next for you and what we can do.
00:30:00.460 Yeah.
00:30:00.880 The million dollar question is what's next.
00:30:03.140 I, when I started this, everyone was speculating that it was political motivations and this was
00:30:09.200 never political for me.
00:30:10.380 This was always about truth.
00:30:11.920 This was about making the military better.
00:30:14.040 Um, but I, I am, like I said, I wrote my master's thesis on foreign diplomacy.
00:30:20.560 I love the United States.
00:30:21.420 I will probably pursue politics, but I just right now, this ordeal.
00:30:26.800 Has just taken such a physical, mental, spiritual toll on me that I don't see myself doing
00:30:31.860 anything, at least in this 22 cycle personally.
00:30:34.180 So what I did, I was on a gag border for three months.
00:30:36.540 I put together a coalition of veteran candidates.
00:30:39.640 My bumper sticker on how I want to make changes.
00:30:42.700 We need leaders, not politicians.
00:30:43.980 This is the bottom line.
00:30:45.000 When that story I told about Congress, not standing against the DOD budget to me is a
00:30:48.700 symptom that people aren't doing the hard things.
00:30:51.000 They're doing what is in the best interest of public support at that moment.
00:30:54.820 And I think veteran candidates, oftentimes who have experience in foreign diplomacy and
00:31:01.060 have experience in leadership might be able to do some of the things that I don't see
00:31:04.940 happening right now.
00:31:05.680 So I've got, I put together five veteran Senate candidates and 20 congressional candidates,
00:31:10.240 and we've done a couple of Zooms.
00:31:11.760 And for lack of a better term, I'm basically just like the, the guy in the shadows, bringing
00:31:17.480 the group together and providing them access to political action committees, to media,
00:31:23.720 to different ways to bring attention to their, their group.
00:31:26.820 We have a website for them and that's votesforvets.org.
00:31:30.660 And so in the, in the next couple of months, or at least through November, I'll probably be
00:31:35.180 on the campaign trail, helping some of those candidates.
00:31:37.420 Cause I'd like to see out of that group of 25 that I got at least five votes.
00:31:41.200 And I think that'll be a good start to accomplish some of the things that I want to, uh, in
00:31:45.640 changing our government.
00:31:46.840 And then I'll probably end up running in 24.
00:31:50.100 If you want to see my personal political views, you can go to my website.
00:31:52.800 So my personal website is authentic americans.com.
00:31:56.420 And ultimately my pitch there is, I think that the extreme right and the extreme left, um,
00:32:03.860 might, might be doing more harm than good.
00:32:06.660 And so, you know, we're never as Americans all going to agree on something, but if I
00:32:10.620 could put a divide between those extremes, I think quite honestly, the center right and
00:32:15.220 the center left may even have more in common than those extremes of, of each political
00:32:19.420 party.
00:32:19.960 I'm a conservative, uh, you know, by trade, I was going to my local GOP meetings before
00:32:24.500 this, but I still have a lot in common with like a, a democratic congressional candidate
00:32:30.160 or, uh, I'm sorry, rep no longer rep, but Tulsi Gabbard made some comments about
00:32:34.720 accountability in the government and the military.
00:32:37.360 And so like, there's someone who I have maybe a lot of differences in, but I still can look
00:32:41.320 at a lot of similarities.
00:32:42.160 And so I'll probably run, uh, in for some political office in 24, support my candidates
00:32:48.560 in 22.
00:32:49.660 Um, and you can check out my website at authentic americans.com authentic americans.com.
00:32:55.960 Yep.
00:32:57.460 Appreciate it.
00:32:58.100 Colonel.
00:32:58.440 Thanks so much for being with us.
00:32:59.780 We wish you all the very best, uh, Stuart Scheller jr.
00:33:05.280 Uh, it sounds like you're going to have an interesting, uh, another interesting period
00:33:10.040 in your life.
00:33:10.940 I look forward to talking with you again and keep us posted and, uh, come back soon.
00:33:15.420 We'll talk about your progress along the way.
00:33:18.180 Uh, I look forward to it.
00:33:19.200 I would like that.
00:33:19.960 Thanks Lou.
00:33:20.720 And stay the, stay the hell out of those shadows.
00:33:23.140 We kind of like having, we like you haven't been out in the light.
00:33:26.820 Uh, the country needs that light.
00:33:29.680 Thank you, sir.
00:33:30.720 Thank you.
00:33:31.560 I mean, he's a tremendous, tremendous American.
00:33:34.380 I, I just think there's just, uh, you know, what can I say?
00:33:39.320 Uh, we salute you and, uh, uh, uh, admire you.
00:33:43.560 It's, uh, we need more like him.
00:33:46.240 It was, and soon the great America show continues in one moment.
00:33:50.520 Stay with us.
00:33:51.100 We'll be right back much more next.
00:33:53.920 With all that's going on in this country, we thought it would be interesting and important
00:34:00.460 to talk with a man who's in the midst of our political and cultural battles for the
00:34:05.880 future of the nation.
00:34:07.320 Our guest is running for the U S Senate and the great state of Missouri.
00:34:11.620 He's an attorney and honors graduate of Southern Methodist university and earned his law degree
00:34:17.020 from SMU as well.
00:34:18.380 He's a lifelong Republican, but this is the first time that he's run for political office.
00:34:24.720 You've probably seen what are now iconic photos of Mark and his wife, Patty from the summer
00:34:30.620 of protests, riots, and violence in streets all across the country in 2020.
00:34:36.380 Those photos show the McCloskey's as they stood proudly and defiantly in their front yard in
00:34:43.220 St. Louis with Mark's rifle and Patty's pistol at the ready while black lives matter protesters
00:34:49.780 marched along the street in front of their home with us today on the great America show to talk
00:34:56.180 about those days and the future that he intends to influence is Mark McCloskey, great American
00:35:02.740 Republican candidate for the U S Senate, Mark, a pleasure and an honor to have you with us
00:35:08.680 here on the great America show.
00:35:11.180 Thanks for having me, Lou.
00:35:12.140 And it's an honor to be on your show.
00:35:14.900 We are, uh, you know, I think the whole country was galvanized by those pictures of you and
00:35:20.900 your wife, uh, as you, as you stood there, uh, at the ready to protect your home.
00:35:27.080 Uh, give us a sense.
00:35:29.720 Did you have any idea of the, I'll call it a bruja, uh, a protest and all of it, of course,
00:35:37.240 manufactured by the left, uh, that would follow, uh, your just simple statement that, uh, your
00:35:44.640 home is your castle and you would defend it.
00:35:47.360 Well, you know, when, uh, when the crowd started to dwindle away and the, the, the threats and
00:35:53.680 the, uh, and the shouts and the threats of death and rape and arson were dwindling down
00:35:58.180 and I was facing a sea of cell phone, I said, you know, I suspect this isn't going to end
00:36:03.460 well.
00:36:05.640 Well, uh, your, uh, your deductive reasoning on that, as I would expect of an attorney of
00:36:11.100 your caliber was, uh, absolutely excellent.
00:36:13.440 Uh, and it's, it's such a shame because in every way you were within your rights, uh, and
00:36:21.140 what followed were, uh, you know, legal, uh, troubles.
00:36:24.140 You were the target of the, of what I call the Marxist left in this country of whether
00:36:29.220 they're local or state or, or, or federal, uh, political operatives, uh, give us a sense
00:36:36.380 of what, uh, what that was like, uh, in terms of your legal, uh, travail, uh, that you had
00:36:42.740 to face as a consequence.
00:36:44.720 Well, you know, and then let me give you a little bit of background too, because the, uh,
00:36:48.520 the, the mainstream media narrative that these were peaceful, social justice protesters walking
00:36:53.640 calmly past my house on the way to the mayor's house is, is all complete, uh, you know, uh,
00:36:59.000 fake news as one might suspect.
00:37:00.780 Right.
00:37:01.280 You gotta, you gotta appreciate that in the city of St. Louis, the, the background level
00:37:05.580 of violence is so enormous.
00:37:07.100 People that live in the civilized world probably can't imagine it, but we've always been the
00:37:11.060 murder capital of the world.
00:37:12.300 But then you have to add to that, the George Floyd effect.
00:37:15.400 And on the night of June, the 1st, June, the 2nd of 2020, uh, the, the, the people that
00:37:20.960 are the champions of, of social justice and diversity and inclusion decided the best way
00:37:26.200 to show their love for St. Louis was by burning it down.
00:37:28.740 And they set downtown St. Louis on fire.
00:37:31.840 They shot four police officers at night, killed a retired police captain, David Dorn, burned
00:37:37.880 the 7-11 to the ground, two blocks from the police headquarters in St. Louis.
00:37:42.880 And we watched that in a live helicopter feed for 30 or 40 minutes, not a single policeman
00:37:48.080 showed up, not a single fireman showed up.
00:37:50.760 And my wife, Patty and I looked at each other and said, you know, when the fit hits the sham,
00:37:54.880 you're out here and you're absolutely wild lonesome.
00:37:57.420 Yeah.
00:37:57.500 And during the ensuing month, uh, more and more businesses in our neighborhood got boarded
00:38:03.120 up more and more businesses got ransacked.
00:38:05.160 Uh, and we just, we just, uh, got prepared.
00:38:08.900 And one of the benefits for the, for the criminals of living in a Democrat controlled city for
00:38:14.920 seven decades is there's no repercussions for crime.
00:38:18.080 And so the, uh, this Antifa organization, by the way, headed by a young lady named Cori Bush,
00:38:23.480 uh, felt that they could publish the time and location of their, of their mob actions ahead
00:38:29.480 of time and had published that they're going to have a mob action in our neighborhood on
00:38:33.580 that Friday, June, the 26th.
00:38:35.660 So we put out fire extinguishers around the house and set out guns.
00:38:38.980 And then that, that protest didn't happen.
00:38:41.520 And so we thought we dodged the bullet.
00:38:43.380 Then it happened on that Sunday evening when we were out just trying to have dinner, but
00:38:46.960 we just made a decision that we weren't going to take it.
00:38:49.620 We were not going to let it happen in our neighborhood.
00:38:51.640 It's a completely private neighborhood.
00:38:53.520 The street and the sidewalk in front of my house are as private as, as your living room.
00:38:57.520 Um, and when they crashed through that gate and destroyed it, the first thing I did was
00:39:01.360 I stood out on the edge of the porch and said the two most racist white supremacist words
00:39:06.820 known in the English language, I said, private property and being communist that pissed them
00:39:12.640 off.
00:39:12.880 Right.
00:39:13.600 Um, and, and they started storming in more and more.
00:39:17.640 And so my wife and daughter, she was 31 at the time, uh, went in the house to call 911.
00:39:23.160 I reached around the corner where I had my AR stash and pulled it out and stood out there.
00:39:28.260 And, uh, you know, then all of a sudden I see my wife come out in the grass in front
00:39:32.900 of me, you know, just feet from the mob, which is now screaming death threats and arson and
00:39:37.520 everything else waving that, that, that, you know, dumb little Bryco pistol over her head.
00:39:42.940 And now I've got a problem because I don't have a clean line of fire.
00:39:45.800 I didn't, you know, now I have to get out there in the grass.
00:39:47.860 So that's when, uh, that's when those iconic pictures get taken, but, uh, here's, you know,
00:39:53.580 then I want to, I do want to compliment you right here for having the courage to stand
00:39:59.740 for what is yours and for what is right.
00:40:02.720 Uh, and what is right, uh, for all Americans to defend your property, to defend your home,
00:40:09.140 uh, your wife and your daughter.
00:40:12.040 I mean, shame on anybody who would expect anyone, any citizen to do otherwise.
00:40:19.340 And I mean that shame on them.
00:40:22.460 Uh, and I'm sorry to interrupt.
00:40:24.240 No, I mean, the, the American people have been trained to be sheep and I apologize for
00:40:28.560 saying that to your listening audience, but, uh, you know, I wouldn't, our, our picture
00:40:34.440 would not have had great notoriety if that were the norm and not the exception to stand
00:40:39.360 up for one's rights these days.
00:40:41.040 Um, but you know, we've been punished thoroughly for it and are continuing to be punished for
00:40:45.400 it.
00:40:45.960 Uh, our George Soros funded circuit attorney charged my wife and I with two classy felonies,
00:40:52.120 which would have cost us four years in the slammer and our law licenses and our careers
00:40:57.000 and the rest of our livelihood.
00:40:58.040 Um, but fortunately for us, uh, she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and had used
00:41:04.520 us in her political propaganda for fundraising.
00:41:07.400 And that gave us an opportunity to, uh, ask the court to disqualify her and the entire,
00:41:12.920 uh, circuit attorney's office from prosecuting us.
00:41:15.880 We got a, uh, a special prosecutor appointed who, despite the fact that he had been a Barack
00:41:21.740 Obama U S attorney for eight years, was a reasonable and fair guy.
00:41:25.640 He dismissed the felony charges, but then he read me this charge in court.
00:41:29.880 First time we saw him.
00:41:31.440 And he said that I had the class C misdemeanor.
00:41:34.540 He charged me with said that I purposely placed other people in apprehension of immediate physical
00:41:40.140 injury.
00:41:40.620 I laughed out loud.
00:41:41.480 I said, hell yes, I did.
00:41:42.280 That's what the guns were for.
00:41:43.300 Right.
00:41:44.380 If that's a, if that's a crime in Missouri, I did it and I'll do it again.
00:41:49.140 And the judge who'd been a friend of mine for 30 some years, um, uh, looks down off the
00:41:54.440 bench at me and says, now, Mr. McCloskey, did you do those things?
00:41:58.000 And I said, I sure did your honor.
00:42:02.420 But you know, there were the, then, uh, the, uh, governor Parson, Mike Parson had promised
00:42:07.180 to pardon us from, from the very get go.
00:42:08.900 And he's a man of his word.
00:42:10.420 And he did immediately.
00:42:11.880 And so we thought that was all over.
00:42:14.180 And then we then get a, uh, uh, petition filed against us by the chief disciplinary officer
00:42:22.520 for the Missouri Bar Association, asking the Supreme court to suspend our law licenses
00:42:27.800 indefinitely, because in standing on our front porch and defending ourselves against a mob
00:42:33.900 of hundreds threatening to kill us, we were acting in moral turpitude and aren't morally
00:42:38.860 fit to be lawyers anymore.
00:42:40.020 And that's our current battle.
00:42:43.120 Unbelievable.
00:42:43.920 Tell us a little bit more about your bar association then, uh, because anyone who has such a corrupt
00:42:51.240 soul, we all need to know more about him or her.
00:42:55.340 Well, the, uh, the, it's been, I can't tell you how many years now, but we've got a woke
00:43:00.560 bar association like everywhere now, I guess we, you know, you have to take a certain number
00:43:04.920 of continuing legal education courses every year to maintain your license for some years.
00:43:10.360 Now we've been required to take diversity and inclusion of propaganda as part of our
00:43:15.880 necessity to, to retain our licenses.
00:43:19.260 And we have to sit through these lectures where people tell us how evil it is to be white
00:43:23.660 and how privileged it is and how we have to, uh, we have to treat people differently by
00:43:28.960 their race in order to be non-racist.
00:43:31.720 And, you know, the nonsense of that is so comprehensive and so obvious that it would take
00:43:37.400 the, uh, entire force of the federal government and the mainstream media to convince people that
00:43:42.640 overt racism is anti-racist, but it's worked.
00:43:45.680 And, uh, I said at the time that our, our bar association was too woke to let this go.
00:43:52.660 And it turned out to be true.
00:43:54.240 But I, I think in the real world, this is just part of what AOC announced, uh, a year
00:43:59.600 ago, last November, and that's a Trump accountability project that everybody worked, everybody who
00:44:04.740 worked for the Trump campaign or in the Trump administration was going to be harassed for
00:44:09.260 the rest of their lives.
00:44:10.080 And we're just living it.
00:44:11.300 It is really, uh, incredible, uh, that anyone has to put up with this.
00:44:17.680 Uh, and, and I guess the fact of the matter is they do have to put up with it if they're
00:44:22.240 going to be in the public arena and you've made it for, for most politicians, that's a,
00:44:27.400 that's not a recent choice to be in the arena.
00:44:30.040 They've been there and the wokeness and the leftist, the deal Marxist, uh, initiatives are
00:44:36.840 new circumstances, but you, you have made the decision knowing full well, what the political
00:44:43.920 arena was, the, the dangers, they, uh, what you would must endure.
00:44:48.640 And yet you still decided you're going to run for office.
00:44:52.340 Tell us what motivated you.
00:44:54.440 Well, you know, the, uh, uh, the, the story is kind of lengthy, but I can put it in a nutshell.
00:44:59.000 Most people don't know this because it didn't hit the mainstream media, uh, narrative, but the,
00:45:04.520 um, the mob came back the next Friday on July the 3rd with a specific intent of killing
00:45:08.820 us and burning down the house.
00:45:10.420 And, uh, we, uh, we had aid from, from the white house.
00:45:14.280 We had some aid from, I think Colonel West down in Texas.
00:45:17.100 And when the mob hit our house that Friday, we had six ex Navy SEALs.
00:45:21.680 We had 10 secondary employment, uh, police officers.
00:45:25.180 We had the FBI light aircraft circling the house.
00:45:28.060 We had, uh, now the mob, you know, numbering at a thousand by the time they hit the gate,
00:45:32.120 we had what we used to call in the Reagan administration, peace through superior firepower.
00:45:37.640 Um, but that was, that was a night that president Trump gave his Mount Rushmore address.
00:45:42.220 And we didn't get a chance to see it that night because we're a little busy covering
00:45:45.460 our rear hands, but Patty and I watched it the next morning.
00:45:48.620 And he talked about defeating Marxist extremism in this country.
00:45:52.000 Uh, and, but the mainstream media response called that the most divisive speech that the
00:45:58.820 president could give, and we looked at each other and we said, if defeating Marxist extremism
00:46:03.340 in the United States is divisive, like we're supposed to live in harmony with the people
00:46:08.840 that seek to destroy our lifestyle, destroy our religion, destroy our private property,
00:46:13.800 eventually enslave us and put us in reeducation camps.
00:46:17.140 If that's what the mainstream media thinks we ought to do, then there's something seriously
00:46:21.040 wrong with this country.
00:46:22.340 We just made a decision that day to put our lives on hold and do everything we could for
00:46:26.480 the rest of our lives to save this country.
00:46:28.020 Well, God bless you for coming to that conclusion and, and taking, taking public responsibility
00:46:35.260 and serving the country, uh, and, uh, running for election for the Senate, uh, from, from
00:46:41.580 what I once was a great state, uh, this great state of Missouri.
00:46:46.120 Yeah.
00:46:46.720 Yeah.
00:46:46.900 But these are tough times for many states and not least among them is the state of Missouri.
00:46:52.060 I want to get from you also a sense of why you believe.
00:46:57.260 I, when you talk about the woke bar association, what I've learned over, uh, some time covering
00:47:04.500 politics, uh, once I talked, uh, about how corrupt Congress itself was, once I talked about how
00:47:12.780 corrupt the Senate had become.
00:47:14.580 Then I started reporting on how corrupt the government itself had become the deep state.
00:47:21.660 And now we have corruption that extends to our courts when John Roberts, the chief justice stood
00:47:28.540 before the, uh, uh, the country and, uh, defended his judgment on Obamacare by simply switching the
00:47:37.780 meaning of two words, uh, and, and now is proclaimed that there are no, uh, Bush judges or Trump judges or Obama judges,
00:47:48.660 or I, now, I guess, uh, it would be Biden judges.
00:47:52.480 You know, he was, he was making a farce of it all because no one in the country now believes John Roberts
00:47:59.580 when he says a damn thing, because he's lied for years.
00:48:03.540 So with that level of corruption, what can you do?
00:48:09.080 Well, here's the, here's the thing.
00:48:10.860 And, and this goes back to the communist international aisle from, from the beginning of time.
00:48:15.660 The whole goal in taking over free countries is to infiltrate every aspect of, of society,
00:48:22.080 the government, education, media, communication, um, to cause the, the environment to be so unpleasant
00:48:29.660 for people of genuine character and conviction that you eventually eliminate all those people
00:48:35.060 and have all the positions filled by their indoctrinated, uh, co-conspirators or, or preconditioned sheep.
00:48:42.200 And that's amongst other things, what the, the Vax mandates are about today is to identify
00:48:47.020 and clear out the, uh, the opposition and to, to have a single, uh, political entity running
00:48:53.820 everything.
00:48:54.620 Uh, but yeah, you know, it's, it's in, in every aspect of our lives now, you no longer have
00:49:01.440 a right to have a difference of opinion.
00:49:03.500 Having a difference of opinion is now a criminal position according to the current administration.
00:49:08.320 I mean, it's the, the DOJ and the FBI are now just like the KGB.
00:49:13.180 They're the enforcement arm of the, of the, of the woke state.
00:49:17.000 And it, it's absolutely true.
00:49:19.620 When you have the attorney general of the United States, uh, talking about investigating parents
00:49:26.680 who believe that their local school boards should be responsive to their will, to their
00:49:32.340 judgments and views, uh, and also, uh, now because they raise their voices at a meeting, suddenly
00:49:39.440 are put under a category of a domestic terrorist.
00:49:41.940 This is outrageous.
00:49:43.280 Uh, and we're watching it everywhere.
00:49:46.280 Uh, so as we watch the Republican party try to disengage itself from its somewhat questionable
00:49:53.680 relationship, uh, with, uh, and I think corrupt relationship with the U S chamber of commerce,
00:50:00.520 with the, uh, the, the business round table with, uh, uh, wall street, uh, and become under
00:50:07.960 Trump, the, the party of the working man and woman in this country, irrespective of race,
00:50:14.640 creed, or color, and to become the party of the American family.
00:50:18.720 And to put America first, is that the same Republican party without him at the head of
00:50:24.820 it?
00:50:25.560 You know, I think that, that the, uh, that the president Trump represented a entirely new
00:50:31.900 form of presidency where it was, where he was actually working for the people regardless
00:50:37.400 of political or social consequences.
00:50:39.720 But I mean, we now have a country where there's officially sanctioned censorship, where the president
00:50:45.240 of the United States has announced that he has a right to determine what's information
00:50:49.640 and what is misinformation.
00:50:51.260 And he can prevent us from hearing information that he doesn't like this current president
00:50:56.320 has made so many unconstitutional executive orders.
00:51:00.020 And I just, I just don't understand where, why there's no outrage.
00:51:03.720 Why, when he says things like he did in connection with the eviction moratorium, that I know what I'm
00:51:09.440 doing is illegal.
00:51:10.180 I know it's unconstitutional, but I'm going to do it anyway.
00:51:13.460 How come there aren't 50 Republican senators standing on the steps of the Capitol building
00:51:18.960 screaming outrage?
00:51:21.160 Well, that's because they, they're in on it.
00:51:23.280 They, they're not outraged.
00:51:25.040 They're part of it.
00:51:26.140 And that's what the people of this country need to wake up and recognize.
00:51:29.100 I think that's why, um, they flocked towards President Trump because he represented somebody
00:51:34.120 who wasn't part of that inside corruption.
00:51:36.300 And I'm, I'm hoping that, that the people will recognize that that's, that's what I'm,
00:51:40.340 what I stand for too, that I'm not afraid to stand up and say, look, these people are corrupt.
00:51:45.720 They do not have the best interests of the American people at heart.
00:51:49.400 They have an entirely different interest.
00:51:51.380 And that's a, uh, you know, a globalist, socialist, totalitarian world.
00:51:57.560 And this country right now, and no one should, and, and I'm not going to pussyfoot around the
00:52:02.140 issue, uh, the fact of the matter is this country is run by globalist elites, uh, who
00:52:07.360 are aligned, many of them, uh, more closely to the government of Xi Jinping than the government
00:52:14.200 certainly of, uh, uh, of Donald Trump when he was president.
00:52:18.100 And this, uh, administration seems to be, uh, not only, uh, compliant, but complicit with,
00:52:25.620 uh, Xi Jinping and the CCP in the policies they're following.
00:52:30.860 Uh, this is the president wants to tell, uh, Vladimir Putin, what he can do on his own
00:52:36.480 border.
00:52:36.860 Uh, and if the situation were reversed, uh, would be, uh, I think most Americans would
00:52:42.380 have a fit, uh, and Putin said this.
00:52:44.860 I mean, he said, what would you do if, uh, he, uh, were encroaching on Mexico or, uh, one
00:52:51.880 of the Caribbean nations, uh, uh, by the way, since we've got some experience with that, we
00:52:56.200 know what we do.
00:52:56.980 So I, I don't understand how the American people are, as you, uh, you know, said, you
00:53:02.860 know, in some cases, utter sheep and oblivious to what is before their very eyes happening
00:53:08.960 in, uh, real time and, uh, on, uh, color TVs all over the country.
00:53:14.220 Yeah, it's just shocking how, how passive it really is because, you know, my wife and
00:53:19.420 I went down and visited the, uh, uh, the invasion of the Southern border and, uh, videoed it.
00:53:25.660 And I sent my video clips to every major news outlet, including, uh, the folks at the, you
00:53:30.660 know, state, uh, uh, uh, TV hosts whose shows I appear on and nobody played it, but I had
00:53:36.960 clear video of Texas National Guard, Customs and Border Patrol actively engaged in cooperation
00:53:44.820 with the cartels, bringing over as many, uh, uh, illegals as possible.
00:53:49.320 And, uh, minors, unescorted minors said, Patty and I, uh, spoke with a, uh, nine year old
00:53:55.640 from Guatemala standing in the unescorted minors line in, in Roma, Texas.
00:54:00.320 Mind you, this young lady had just gotten off a rubber raft a few minutes earlier.
00:54:04.060 We asked her, where are you going in the United States?
00:54:06.860 She says, New Haven, Connecticut.
00:54:09.600 See this.
00:54:10.340 Wow.
00:54:10.620 Before they ever get to this side of the Rio Grande, they've been re-outfitted with new
00:54:14.920 clothes, new shoes, presumably new identities and locations where they're going to be sent
00:54:21.320 to in the United States.
00:54:22.560 The, uh, Customs and Border Patrol, before they started bringing the people over from the
00:54:26.880 other side, had the buses lined up, happens in the middle of the night, they knew how many
00:54:31.900 people they're going to get and where they're going to send them.
00:54:34.420 Uh, and, uh, it's not like you see on television where you've got beleaguered Border Patrol agents
00:54:39.440 chasing down an, uh, uh, an unreachable number of illegal aliens.
00:54:44.000 It was totally by, by agreement and, uh, a controlled exchange where we witnessed the
00:54:50.080 destruction of our civilization right before our eyes.
00:54:53.220 And so I asked the head of the, the Border Patrol there who was arranging all this that
00:54:57.580 I, this was after the Supreme Court had ruled on the reinstatement of the Remain in Mexico
00:55:02.600 policy.
00:55:03.660 He said, had this level of, of, uh, immigration, is this level of people the same as it's been?
00:55:08.620 Uh, and he says, yeah, it's always this busy.
00:55:10.980 And I said, well, has this changed since the Remain in Mexico policy has been reinstated?
00:55:15.180 His response was, I don't get involved in politics.
00:55:18.360 Yeah.
00:55:18.840 Yeah.
00:55:19.220 And he doesn't, uh, the Border Patrol doesn't, uh, the former, the former top officials of
00:55:25.960 the Border Patrol and Customs, uh, have told me straight out, uh, when I say that the,
00:55:32.020 the cartels are in control of both sides of that border.
00:55:34.740 And anyone who tells you it's just the Southern side, they're lying through their teeth.
00:55:39.840 Absolutely.
00:55:40.600 And there are, you know, most people will say, well, they're lying or they're naive.
00:55:44.340 There's no one naive involved whatsoever in the cross border narcotics trafficking, sex
00:55:51.260 trafficking, uh, and the export of death from, uh, communist China through Mexico across that
00:55:59.200 border, uh, with, uh, just, uh, extraordinary doses of, uh, fentanyl enough in the most recent
00:56:06.820 apprehension to kill, uh, 50 million Americans.
00:56:10.720 I mean, and, and people just keep, uh, accepting collateral damage at some point, at some point
00:56:17.220 collateral damage will become the entire nation.
00:56:20.000 Well, yeah.
00:56:21.140 And you know, this is, this isn't a secret.
00:56:23.220 This happens right in front of everybody's eyes and everybody turns a blind eye to it.
00:56:28.320 And you know what?
00:56:29.880 2 million illegal aliens this year, uh, enough drugs to kill everybody in the country.
00:56:34.380 And, uh, the death rate from opioid overdose outshadows every other thing.
00:56:39.620 And yet, uh, it's, it's, it's ignored.
00:56:42.940 And, uh, we're worried about a, a border inclusion in, in, uh, in Ukraine on the other
00:56:49.380 side of the world.
00:56:50.400 Exactly right.
00:56:51.740 Uh, more discussion about the border, the, the Eastern border of Ukraine and the Western
00:56:58.080 border of Russia, which they share.
00:57:00.420 There's more discussion of that in Washington, DC than there is of our border with Mexico.
00:57:06.000 That's outrageous.
00:57:07.260 It's stupid.
00:57:08.200 It's glaringly, uh, uh, just absurd, uh, to even imagine that, uh, Mitch McConnell, the
00:57:16.520 head, and I, I'm not going to get you involved in this.
00:57:18.560 It's my statement.
00:57:19.780 Uh, Mitch McConnell, uh, Kevin McCarthy are rhinos and rhinos are trying to tear the guts
00:57:26.380 out of the Republican party.
00:57:27.680 Uh, and you've talked about passive aggressive, those, those rhinos who populate, unfortunately,
00:57:35.180 uh, by too great a number, uh, the Republican party, uh, have done extraordinary damage, not
00:57:41.760 only to president Trump, uh, we, we owe that to the, to the left, the deep state and the
00:57:46.840 radical dims who have been leading that party for the last 30 years.
00:57:50.880 When they persecuted Donald Trump, harassed him, hounded him, and, uh, and, uh, it made
00:57:59.160 it absolutely impossible for him to get a fair, uh, a fair report from any news organization.
00:58:07.040 Uh, you know, we, we became a different country, in my opinion.
00:58:10.320 So with that, let me, let me ask you this in, in not over granular terms, but give us a sense
00:58:18.580 of your race right now, where you stand, uh, the competition, uh, the, uh, resources from
00:58:25.280 the establishment that have to surely be arrayed against you.
00:58:28.840 Uh, tell us, tell us where you are.
00:58:31.240 Well, you know, I'm, I'm running against two five term congressmen, uh, the former, uh, governor
00:58:38.020 of Missouri who resigned in disgrace and our current, uh, sitting attorney general.
00:58:41.820 And then there's a guy, there's a number of other candidates, uh, one of whom is the,
00:58:46.080 uh, president pro tem of the Missouri Senate, but the, but the, the, the congressman, the
00:58:51.300 ex governor and the attorney general are the real competition.
00:58:53.940 And they're the folks that are supported by the party because I'm uncontrollable.
00:58:59.300 I mean, I, I've never been a candidate for anything before.
00:59:02.400 I, I don't need to be doing this.
00:59:05.220 I'm, I'm doing it because I think it's a, something that God has called me to do in the
00:59:09.280 country needs right now.
00:59:11.260 Um, we are, we have no support for the mainstream party.
00:59:14.240 In fact, very shortly after I announced my campaign, uh, a former lieutenant governor of
00:59:20.020 the state of Missouri was going around trying to get a coalition of people to talk me out
00:59:23.520 of running, which I figured that if the mainstream party is that opposed to me, I must be doing
00:59:28.520 something right.
00:59:29.560 But we have tremendous ground support.
00:59:32.260 We've had over 27,000 individual contributors, many times a number of any other candidate, um,
00:59:39.280 they're all, all small time contributors, you know, mom and pop, we got a, we got a campaign
00:59:43.640 contribution in last week, uh, with three quarters taped to the donation package.
00:59:50.220 And you gotta, you just gotta have your heart go out to a lady who's going to give you 75
00:59:55.000 cents to mail it in with a letter of support.
00:59:57.460 I mean, that's, those are the real people in this country.
00:59:59.620 Those are the people I want to represent, not the billionaires and the fat cats and the,
01:00:03.780 and the lying rhinos.
01:00:05.040 Well, the Trump, the Trump administration used to refer to those in the Trump campaign
01:00:10.280 as the forgotten American, but the forgotten American has been once again, forgotten by
01:00:16.380 the Republican party, in my opinion.
01:00:18.160 And it's, it, it concerns me deeply and not, and even more than forgotten, despised.
01:00:23.680 They have, they, they, they don't like the fact that there are people out there that aren't
01:00:28.420 controllable.
01:00:29.060 They, they find them to be the enemy of when the, when the department of justice this year
01:00:34.440 declared that white, white extremists are the greatest threat for America, more so than
01:00:40.480 ISIS or any foreign terrorist organization.
01:00:42.880 That, that's the disdain that this government, including the rhinos have for the average American
01:00:48.040 out.
01:00:48.980 Yeah.
01:00:49.600 And it isn't just the political arena.
01:00:51.740 We're also watching it in our Pentagon, the top officials, the military leaders and civilian
01:00:56.380 leaders with the same woke nonsense and this, a same silly and absurdist view.
01:01:01.240 I, I mean, when you hear the secretary of defense start talking about the biggest threat
01:01:07.940 is the, uh, military order within the, our armed forces, uh, you know, you're dealing with
01:01:16.140 complete idiots, uh, who are hell bent on anything, but defending the nation.
01:01:21.660 I, it's outrageous.
01:01:22.760 Yeah.
01:01:23.660 Well, once again, I go full circle.
01:01:25.420 You know, every one of these, every one of these programs is designed to identify and
01:01:29.660 exclude from, from position people that are independent thinkers and aren't part of the
01:01:35.180 woke crowd, because now you can do two things.
01:01:37.920 One is you consolidate your power within the organized, organized power structure.
01:01:42.580 And the other is you now have identified and have on an enemies list, all the people that
01:01:47.400 are not subject to your direct control.
01:01:49.020 Right.
01:01:50.020 Right.
01:01:51.020 Now I've been on the, uh, enemies, the enemies list for some time now, uh, and, uh, my wife
01:01:57.780 and I, not always our family, but my wife and I, uh, are used to it.
01:02:01.780 But, uh, it's, uh, it is, it is unfortunately, as you've pointed out, uh, the price of public
01:02:07.880 participation and being in the arena.
01:02:09.900 I want to thank you for taking that, uh, that step and making that judgment and that, and
01:02:16.680 what we know is a great sacrifice for you and your family.
01:02:19.780 Uh, but I'm sure that the people of Missouri appreciate it and will respond, uh, and I'm
01:02:25.740 no longer under any constraint whatsoever because, uh, I I've learned the, uh, you know, it's
01:02:31.460 one thing for me to be independent.
01:02:32.900 It's another thing to live independent this podcast, uh, the great America show will do
01:02:38.900 everything it can to help you in your campaign and to assure that, uh, uh, you, uh, have the
01:02:45.700 best shot in the world of, uh, representing the folks who desperately need it, uh, there
01:02:50.060 in Missouri.
01:02:51.060 So whatever we can do, let us know, uh, we will, uh, uh, support your campaign.
01:02:56.240 We will publicize your candidacy and, uh, we're a little acorn, but we will have our,
01:03:02.120 uh, our, our minuscule impact, uh, uh, out there as best we can.
01:03:07.880 Well, I appreciate it.
01:03:08.740 And I, you know, what I say every day is this is what I call a post-political time in America.
01:03:13.260 You can't count on the politicians to help you.
01:03:15.420 The government's there not to help you, but to take away your power and take away your
01:03:18.980 freedom.
01:03:19.540 Every, every individual, every American citizen needs to stand up by themselves and defend their
01:03:25.120 freedoms, refuse to comply, refuse to, to, uh, uh, do what the government says when the
01:03:31.720 government makes illegal mandates, illegal and unconstitutional executive orders, and
01:03:36.320 just stand up for freedom.
01:03:37.680 And that's, that's, that's a movement that I hope that we can start and continue and help
01:03:41.940 enough people in this country stand up and recognize what's going on, that we can, we
01:03:46.120 can put a stop to it and bring our, our freedoms back.
01:03:49.920 Well, I'm only more enthusiastic after spending this time talking with you about your candidacy.
01:03:55.120 And what I hope will be your contribution to, uh, this nation's, uh, wellbeing and, uh,
01:04:01.840 assured, uh, destiny, its future.
01:04:04.720 Uh, Mark McCloskey, we thank you for being with us and, uh, look forward to talking with
01:04:10.380 you again soon.
01:04:11.480 Appreciate it.
01:04:12.380 I sure appreciate the opportunity and thank you very much.
01:04:15.220 You betcha.
01:04:16.320 Thank you so much.
01:04:17.400 Mark McCloskey, candidate for the United States Senate for Missouri.
01:04:21.340 I never tell anybody what to do, but I sure, well, I do tell the deep state and the Marxist
01:04:28.440 left what to do and where to go with it.
01:04:30.520 But, uh, my fellow citizens, I never tell what to do, but I do want you to know about
01:04:36.320 some of the choices.
01:04:37.120 And I think he is one of the, uh, the great choices.
01:04:39.980 Uh, and, uh, I'm going to do what I can to, to, to help along the way, no matter how modest
01:04:47.080 that effort.
01:04:48.520 Join us again tomorrow for the great America podcast.
01:04:51.680 Stay in the fight.
01:04:52.620 Truth, justice, and the American way will prevail against all enemies, against all odds.
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01:05:12.220 We will
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