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Speaker Mike Johnson is in danger of being replaced as he continues to negotiate a deal with Chuck Schumer on a $1.7 Trillion spending bill that would give the Marxist Dems everything they want in the bill, including $66 billion for Ukraine, $6 billion in emergency funding to process illegal immigrants faster, $2 billion for immigration and Customs and Customs Enforcement, and $800 million for U.S. citizenship and immigration. It is the latest in a series of deals that has the Freedom Caucus and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene fuming.
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Hello, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs. Welcome to The Great America Show. It's great to have
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you with us. House Speaker Mike Johnson's time as Speaker may soon be coming to an end.
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Conservatives in the House are seemingly getting more frustrated by the day
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about the Speaker's willingness to cave to the Marxist Dems. Johnson has reportedly been working
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with Chuck Schumer on a $1.7 trillion spending bill that would give the Marxist Dems literally
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everything they want in the bill, including $66 billion for Ukraine, $6 billion in emergency
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funding to Customs and Border Protection to process illegal immigrants faster, $2 billion in emergency
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funding for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and almost $800 million for U.S. citizenship and
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immigration. It is the latest appropriations bill that has the House Freedom Caucus and Congresswoman
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Marjorie Taylor Greene absolutely fuming. Listen to her on the subject of Speaker Johnson.
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Mike Johnson should not be going in there with Chuck Schumer and saying, oh, yeah, yeah,
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we're going to make this deal where 5,000 illegal aliens, not migrants, cross the border every damn day
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so you can get $60 billion over to Zelensky, the most corrupt president in the world right now,
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because Ukraine is not the 51st state. Every day Mike Johnson gets closer and closer to this deal
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brings me closer and closer to vacating the chair because I have absolutely had it.
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Sounds like someone who isn't messing around. Speaker Johnson asked Friday if he was worried about,
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No, I'm not worried about that at all. I just met with all those guys. They're close friends of mine,
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and we agree on the principles. Look, I am a lifelong, hardcore conservative. I want to get
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as many policy wins as we can. I want to advance the ball as far as we can. But the reality is we
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have a small majority. So in a situation like that, you're not going to get everything you want.
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You get what you can get. And we've been trying to negotiate to make that happen,
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and we're going to continue, and we're going to keep the team together. It's just another day at the
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office. Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy was asked that same exact question back in late September.
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Even if you can afford to lose some of those conservative members, do you worry that someone,
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because any one of them could, would bring a motion to vacate? Not at all. Not at all. Not at all.
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And about a week after that interview, McCarthy was gone, vacated by Congressman Matt Gaetz,
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ultimately fired. And this should be a warning to Mike Johnson that if you make one-sided deals
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with the Marxist Dems, you will be fired. But apparently, he doesn't believe it yet.
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Perhaps Johnson should take a page out of the book of President Donald Trump,
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The most successful politician of all time in 2018, the Republicans were in a similar situation,
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facing a potential government shutdown. And of course, border security was a major issue.
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President Trump sat and looked at Senator Schumer right in the eye and told him he will own the
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government shutdown in order to make certain that the cartel-run southern border is finally secured.
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You said it. You want to put that in mind? You said it. I'll take it. Okay, good. You know what
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I'll say? Yes. If we don't get what we want, one way or the other, whether it's through you,
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through a military, through anything you want to call, I will shut down the government. Okay,
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fair enough. And I am proud, and I'll tell you what, I am proud to shut down the government for
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border security, Chuck, because the people of this country don't want criminals and people that
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have lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So I will take the mantle. I will be the
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one to shut it down. I'm not going to blame you for it. The last time you shut it down, it didn't
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work. I will take the mantle of shutting down. And I'm going to shut it down for border security.
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I think all Republicans could learn a few things from President Trump, certainly,
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especially when it comes to negotiating. Our guest today is Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch.
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And Tom, great to have you with us. Tommy, it seems like I, of late, have had to begin nearly
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every interview by complimenting you and congratulating you and Judicial Watch on
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your latest achievement. It's remarkable how much effort you put into your job as a government
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watchdog and the magnificent results you're getting, looking out for the American people,
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watching over this government. And I thank you personally, and certainly I thank Judicial Watch.
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Well, we're happy to do the work. And what's frustrating is it's not rocket science. And
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we just wish more would do what we're doing, especially those in responsible positions of
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Well, right now, speaking truth to power is a very important thing because certainly the
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Congress is not succeeding in doing so, despite its, no question, historically low margin
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of control of the House. But still, it seems the Republican Party in large measure has lost
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its way when they should be the party of the loyal opposition and doing far more than they
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are doing, with the exception of the investigating committees of the judiciary, the oversight and
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ways and means committees. It's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's not, it's not pleasant to watch
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a weak leadership doing, doing few things in my judgment correctly. Your thoughts on Mike Johnson,
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You know, Speaker Johnson is the first conservative movement activists to be Speaker of the House.
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Uh, so, you know, my, my, my instinct is to be, uh, you know, to give them a chance and
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breathing room, but, you know, as president judicial watch, I got to call it as I see it.
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And what I see is what it, what an effect is a plan, which has been consistent with prior
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We hate, including the invasion of the United States, the, uh, destruction of our Republican
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form of government rule of law with these targeting, uh, with these prosecutions of
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president Trump and other innocents, the censorship of Americans, et cetera.
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And I'm not seeing any willingness by Speaker Johnson to say, I'm not going to fund X, Y,
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And, um, and I understand the challenges of doing that and maybe he doesn't succeed or
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not, but, you know, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be able to vote for, uh, to
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fund, uh, Joe Biden, moving millions of illegal aliens to every town in America.
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And it's consistently happened over the last year or two Republicans.
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The Republican controlled house has complained about all this illicit activity by Biden while
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And so I don't think they deserve an out on that.
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And he goes down to the border with 60, apparently 60 representatives in tow with him and acts as
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if it's the first time that he's understood that there is a crisis in the country, even though
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we've had 10 to 12 million illegal immigrants brought into this country in the course of
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three years from the day that Joe Biden took over, uh, and they keep talking about two and
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We all know the numbers are vastly larger than that.
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Uh, and we also know that this, uh, speaker, uh, then subsequently, uh, subsequent to that
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visit says, uh, the border is an issue we'll die on.
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Uh, that isn't the way to that's, I hate the rhetoric.
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Uh, I do, I guess, like the sentiment, but he put it in the most negative terms possible.
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And by the way, every time he said anything approaching that, uh, he has, uh, relented
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and withdrawn, uh, from the issue rather than going up to, to take that hill.
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You know, and it's not like we're getting any fiscal benefits for giving up on these policy
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issues, not that they say that they don't say they're giving up, but they're essentially
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setting up a situation where it's impossible for our policy, um, desires to pass, mainly
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I mean, it'd be one thing to say, well, we don't have the votes for a border, but I tell
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you, we're cutting the budget by 20% because inflation is destroying the land.
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So it's, it's, it's like, I'm trying to see where the winds are here for those of us
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who have a conservative outlook and are concerned about the future of the Republic.
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This is not like, oh, we can get to the border next year, or we can get to the jailing of
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If you don't deal with it now, there may not be a next year, practically speaking, in terms
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of being able to deal with any of this in terms of having a, a functioning Republic.
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And this time it is not, uh, there's just no, uh, element here of figurative speech, uh,
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with this election on November 5th, 2024, uh, we're going to decide whether or not we have
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Uh, I truly believe that Tom, uh, if Donald Trump is not reelected and in charge of this
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government on January 20, uh, 2025, this country is, it will be in deep, deep.
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And I, I'm afraid mortal crisis because this is a takeover of the federal government by
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It is a takeover following have they're having taken over the Democrat party.
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Uh, there is nothing happening in Washington DC right now in the executive branch that is
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remotely positive and in the national interest or the interest of the American people.
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No, I mean, we've got this corruption and this abuse of power, right?
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And then you've got this collapse of our, the national command structure of the United States
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military, uh, with the defense secretary, Austin being a wall effectively for a week without
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his colleagues knowing about it, the ones who are responsible, namely the president, the national
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Well, it is scary and, uh, it's going to get scarier folks because Tom Fenton, the president
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of judicial watch and are going to be talking about what judicial watch is doing, uh, in addition
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to filing a $30 million, uh, wrongful death and negligence lawsuit against the U S government
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on behalf of Ashley Babbitt, uh, her estate, uh, and her, uh, and her, uh, husband, uh, we're
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going to take up all the other, uh, initiatives undertaken by judicial watch to try to save this
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We're talking with judicial watches, Tom Fenton and Tom, the lawsuit that you filed against the
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U S government, uh, on behalf of Ashley Babbitt.
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It is, it is stunning to me that not a single legislator, uh, representative of the house or
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Senate, anyone has taken up her cause over, uh, this time since January six, uh, and thank you for
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And the, the information that you've already developed and revealed in your, uh, the papers
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and filings that you've made, I think will astonish most Americans.
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You know, I, I think it's troubling not only as president judicial watch, but as a citizen
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who's obviously watched this as other Americans have to $30 million wrongful death lawsuit for
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And it shows that Lieutenant Michael Byrd, the U S capital police officer who worked for Congress,
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that's the defendant is the federal government, you know, he's a federal employee in the end,
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I, I'm, I I've talked to you about this before, Lewis.
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Now I've watched the video repeatedly for obvious reasons and forget about the lawsuit and all
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that just personally watching it time and time again.
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And the first thing I think is, I can't believe he shot her.
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And certainly any police officer or honest law enforcement official, or frankly, you know, uh,
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alert citizen would see that's not a right, correct shooting.
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So we know the rules were all broken that the U S capital police had by Byrd in that shooting.
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Uh, we know separately that, uh, after he shot her, uh, he issued a call on the radio shots,
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fired shots, fired, and suggest if shots were being fired at him when in fact, he was the
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Was he trying to create a cover or just further highlights the impropriety of what he had done?
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And then of course he had a record suggesting he should have been nowhere near that situation.
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He was in, by the way, he was incident commander there.
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So he was one of the top security officials at the, in the house that day.
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And he had left his loaded weapon in a bathroom in the capital visitor center, which is the
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major way visitors and tourists and such enter the U S capital complex.
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I don't know how long you lost the gun for, but it was found by someone else.
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Cause some, it looks like some juveniles were trying to steal it.
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Bullets were, uh, went all over by, by the account we understand happened.
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So, uh, it, it, it was a, it was a horrible situation.
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And Ashley Babbitt was needlessly killed and because her death, um, and this, the reality
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of it, uh, was harmful to the last January 6th narrative, uh, uh, Lieutenant Byrd wasn't
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I don't know whether he, you know, whether he should have been or not.
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We can't trust the justice department to have considered it fairly.
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Under Joe Biden and separate, separately the U S capital police, uh, the, you know, the
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Pelosi operation there had no interest in holding him accountable either administratively.
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So it's up to us to do this through this lawsuit and, you know, Ashley deserves justice.
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And so that's what we're trying to achieve here.
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There's more at work here though, than simply a, a, a tragic shooting, uh, and a
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misunderstanding about various aspects of it, you know, I did not realize he had sent out
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that radio call until I read your, uh, your, your filings that it had occurred that within
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one minute of that shooting, he is, uh, coming up with a fictional cover, uh, saying shots fired
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and he's prepared to, uh, uh, to fire in return.
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Uh, he, I mean, that's a bizarre thing to have happened, but it is also.
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You don't have to be, um, you know, to me, you don't have to be a, a very, uh, in diligent
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or, uh, or brilliant, uh, detective to say, you know, that looks like somebody is trying
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And then you go through the, as you said, and as you go through this, he's put in a, the,
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the distinguished visitors, uh, suite at, uh, Andrew's air force base.
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I mean, this is designed for military, high military officers, and he's there not for
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a night, not for two nights and not for any ostensible reason other than to keep him out
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And he's there for six months for crying out loud.
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Is there any explanation for that other than they wanted to keep him out of the public view
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Um, I remember we didn't even know what his name, what, what, what his identity was, you
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know, what his name was until months after the shooting.
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I mean, some folks had guessed who he was, but that was an official, you know, so you didn't
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Um, and, and, and it was clear his identity was, uh, they tried to hide because if his
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identity became known, this other background information we were able to uncover, and certainly
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there was a story well known about him leaving the gun behind, uh, wouldn't have been helpful.
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Um, and, and, you know, again, you don't have to be a detective, as you say, you don't have
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to be a, a, a, a police officer or a law enforcement official.
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We've all seen how we handle police shootings in this day and age, right?
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Whether they're justified or seemingly unjustified, you don't want to be, you know, if you holster,
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if you unholster your gun and fire it and your police officer, you can, you can expect
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significant investigation that did not occur for Lieutenant Byrd.
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And he was given, um, uh, uh, uh, a kid gloves treatment in a way no other officer would have
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And, you know, given the obvious circumstances of the shooting, uh, uh, he, he should have
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Well, severe sanctions, uh, it looks to me now on the face of it, uh, that, uh, far more than
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Uh, we'll see as the, as your case moves forward, uh, I want to take up a number of issues with
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you on this and continue, uh, on the Ashley Babbitt case as well.
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I wanted to, and I want to ask you next about all that we're learning now about the, the relationship
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between the white house, uh, the justice department and the state prosecutors, whether it's Fannie Willis
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in, uh, Fulton County, Georgia, or whether it is with the Manhattan district attorney or the state
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attorney general of New York, Letitia James, this looks like a, a concerted, uh, cooperative, uh,
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And, uh, we'll take that up with, with Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch next.
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We're back now with Tom Fitton and, and Tom, I just wanted to ask you when the January 6th
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committee destroyed all of those documents and their investigation.
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Do you suppose they also then would have had access and, and pertinent material to the shooting
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Would that, could that have been within that evidence that they destroyed?
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Well, uh, it's just one thing about why wouldn't we conclude other, why, why would, why should
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I mean, you know, I was thinking one of the things that Johnson could do and the house
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should do is they should retract the January 6th report that that Pelosi committee issued.
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I think that's, that's a splendid idea because it is absolutely, it has the concomitant truth
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that, uh, uh, it is all real and valid, uh, to, uh, to suspect everything that they did.
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Uh, and in that regard, I want to turn to the report in Politico that Fulton County's
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district attorney, Fannie Willis, uh, not only apparently has, uh, her, some personal
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relationship, I'll put it that way with her chief prosecutor.
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Uh, she also secretly meeting with the January 6th committee to get, uh, whatever she was
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getting, whether it be orders or whether it be further evidence of something or some way
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Uh, the justice department going up to the Manhattan district attorney's office dispatched
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is, uh, uh, to, to serve there, to, uh, to persecute and prosecute president Trump.
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Also, Letitia James, uh, going down to talk with the justice department, the white house
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I'm, I mean, if this isn't a conspiracy and a, and a collaborative, uh, persecution of a
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president, I don't know what it would be your thoughts.
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Uh, there is a national democratic party conspiracy to jail Donald Trump and other political opponents
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And part of it is to intimidate people from participating fully in the public policy process,
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meaning this, if we can do this to these people, we can do it to you.
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It serves to ensure that fewer people might object again.
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If the election is, uh, questionable in 2024, they don't want Republicans or conservatives
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to participate under law in the debate about elections and election outcomes and the administration
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And so, um, they, um, uh, that's kind of like one of the meta issues there.
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And then of course you've got the direct issue was of, they just want to one party state.
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And the way to achieve that is by jailing their political opponent or keep them, keeping
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See, that's how they run things in Russia and China.
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You don't, you don't get to vote, you know, you get a 96% vote for a candidate because no
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So you've got, you've kind of got this general, we want to intimidate our opponents and we'll
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And then you've got the base one of, oh, well, we want to get this candidate out of the way.
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And they're pursuing it every minute of every day, uh, nonstop, you know, Watergate, I think
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back to Watergate and this was supposed to be, uh, a different country as a result of the
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following the Watergate, the, uh, the church committee, uh, reports, uh, investigation, but
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Watergate is really nickels and dimes compared to what Joe Biden has done here.
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It all started with the, uh, with the Hillary Clinton, Russia colluding, uh, rumors and that
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she started ginned up and created charges out of it, uh, in 2016.
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And now here we are in 2024 and the Democrats are still ginning stuff up.
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And, um, you know, Hillary obviously wants to be president still.
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So there's a reason she's still floating around, uh, but it's kind of like two sides of the
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You know, there's one way to rig an election in one election campaign and they're coming
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And as far as I'm concerned, the 2024 election has already been compromised by this election
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interference that I described with these illicit prosecutions of Trump.
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So the question is, is Trump, assuming he's the nominee, going to be able to overcome the
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Unfortunately, I think there are very few people, if they do know, they're not raising their
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Uh, your judicial watch again, discovering more emails under the aliases used by, uh, Joe
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Uh, it's just remarkable what the man has done.
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Uh, all of this is just, these are flares in the darkness telling every, uh, every one of
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And that's why it looks like he's going to, he's going to be, uh, impeached.
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They're going to proceed with it under this, uh, under this house led by Speaker Mike Johnson.
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Is that your sense of things as we wrap up here?
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Yeah, I think there, I think there's enough to impeachment, impeach him for bribery and,
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and, you know, other charges related to his, um, racketeering operation.
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And he's been running for, uh, probably since he's a Senator, uh, but certainly which has
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And we kind of saw, I mean, if that wasn't, uh, do you remember the good, remember Godfather
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Well, uh, no, one of the whistleblowers was testifying and they brought his brother in
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That's, that's what that reminded me yesterday of Hunter Biden showing up.
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It was, it was a mafia like operation that we saw in Congress yesterday by the Biden regime.
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And, you know, it used to be only in the movies, but there we saw it yesterday.
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Well, uh, Hunter Biden, uh, and the Biden family are living a movie right now.
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Uh, and, uh, they now are, are without question, uh, they're going to be hard pressed to sell
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many more tickets like they have sold over what it looks like about a half century, as
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you say, uh, Tom Fenton, again, thank you for being with us.
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We appreciate your time and all that you're doing and for bringing us along on all the
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developments, uh, that, uh, are resulting from your tremendous work at, uh, judicial watch.
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